So I finally dig into the Baldor 1215W that I acquired some months back. Turning it into a dedicated deburing machine. WARNING!!!!! WE BUTCHER THIS BALDOR!
That came out fine and to confuse future generations have a label made that looks like a factory one, that says it's a buffer/polished or some such and make up a model number to add to the jolly wheeze factor.
Nice modifications. You might want to split the spacer for the wire wheel to better center it in the opening. Another thought: the ground lug is bolted to the JB welded portion of the bracket so any fault current will have to go through the motor starter enclosure and both mounting bolts. I would either bond to the lower bolt and add a ground wire to the motor terminal box.
Baldors as well as all old American grinders are so smooth compared to some other machines you buy today. As far as cutting up the guards, hey it's your baby, do what you need to do. If someday you need to go back you can always look around someplace for an old burned up machine or something. But my hunch is it will be so useful as configured, that will not be necessary. Cheers
Very interesting mod. Your’s looks good with the new hardware. Thanks for sharing this. I have refurbished a 612R, a 7308DP, a 412B, a 1021W, and a 1401W. I just bought a 1216W and might do something similar when I get it. Great idea you had. The cast iron switch mounts (bracket) on the larger grinders all seem to break at the same weak point. I never liked the switch box mounts and cable protectors that come standard so I make my own which are attached to the base only and not the motor housing.
I never had any luck using J B Weld in a butt joint situation. I did learn to weld zinc diecast many years ago for a restoration project. Strange stuff !!! LWS had some filler rod material that worked perfectly. The weld had to be done with an Oxy / Acetylene torch, as the zinc alloy melts at a very low temperature. I had no idea that Baldor would use a die cast material for a Mag Starter box support. They always seemed to favor cast iron, no matter how heavy it got !!! That is one powerful deburring/wire brushing machine !!! Good to see you in the shop again. Tim
You can’t beat “old school” American iron for durability and ease of repair. These tools were built to operate for generations. BTW nice job on the mods. Respectfully executed and professional looking. Cheers from West Virginia.
Hi James, great video. The earth may not be effective because of the JB weld may be insulating your earth point from the body of the grinder. For peace of mind, please check. Cheers, Richard
Beautiful job JT...Great video and a lot of work done by you for sure. Those left over castings will make good practice pieces for cast iron machinery welding with TIG nickel and/or bronze filler rod, if your so inclined.👍✔💯
Nice grinder at a GREAT price. You did a really nice job on the restoration. It should serve you for many years. I have a smaller version Baldor and it is a joy to work with. I have a Scotchbrite wheel on one end and a buffing wheel on the other. That Scotchbrite wheel does a wonderful job on deburring aluminum parts. John
When I was an electrician in the '70's we wired devices slightly different from what you did. Black was the left wire (220V 1 phase) as you found out white was the middle wire, red was the right wire. In 3 phase it was; black left, red center, blue on the right.
Nice build James. Recently I bought the Baldor 3 HP, 3 Phase buffer, with the cast iron stand, for what you paid. Both great prices. BTW I am wearing the same shirt as you today. From the BASH a couple years ago.
Beautiful job, It should serve you well for many years. It would be over kill but, I suggest that you run a 12 gauge green copper wire from the ground point in the switch to somewhere on the body of the grinder/polisher/buffer. probably not needed, but in my opinion there are to many connecting surfaces between your ground point and the body of the unit.
Thank God your Ace Mechanic stopped in and volunteered a little time to get you back on track, or you'd still be messing with it. Best of Luck, Stay Healthy..........................
Another point.......Look how smooth and vibration free it runs. Not bolted down and standing still on the bench. Compare this Old Piece of American Iron to the Brand New Chinesium one Keith Fenner bought and how much work he had to do to make it 1/2 as smooth as yours. You made a wise choice my friend.
Good job sir. I just did that voltage wiring change on a Bridgeport mill. I had a hard time reading the numbers on the motor wires but got it done and it runs fine. The wire combinations were the same on my motor as yours. Its very satisfying to restore an old piece of equipment. Merry Christmas from Kansas.
Nice to see you again in the shop, Jay. Nice to also see your son in there for part of it. Those always have to be fun times working. Hope you and your family have a great Christmas season.
Hi Jay Well done and presented! I see a unit destined for scrap turned into a fully functional aid to doing a needed activity in a workmanlike manner. Great job. regards vic
Ouch! I was using a big cup brush on a grinder the other day, felt a pin prick, damn wire shot through my apron, then my shirt! Not nearly as bad as an eye however! Full recovery I hope?
Looks good to me. Should certainly do what you want. Personally I might have left about 20 degrees more of the wheel shield, but that's just me. I can certainly understand why you opened it up.
Fantastic video I’m now a new subscriber and I’m looking forward to going through your videos thanks for sharing stay safe all the best have a great Christmas god bless
Noice! Always a great advantage to having dedicated equipment, the rebuild took a lot of sweat, but you can't argue with your spectacular end result. Enjoyed, cheers!
A REAL 3-phase service must be nice :) Modifying the guards for your intended use is a good call. *I* would have had to split that outer spacer and put half on the inside of the wire wheel to center it fully though, just my OCD... Glad to see you are posting more again!
Advantage of wearing a mask. The boy does not have to smell his old man's farts. Great to see him taking the Covid-19 seriously. If it is your machine, and you want it your way, then it is not sacrilege to modify it. The next owner will see it and if he wants it like that he will buy it. If he does not like it then he will walk away. Great videos
Those "butchered" covers look great and will definitely serve their purpose very well. Lots of protection as well as lots of room to deburr large odd shaped objects. Please do tell though, what's with that huge fan in the background? Are you planning on building a wind test tunnel? If you are I'd love to watch. Greetings from Athens,Greece
With that ground in the Switchbox: The top screw is isolatet to the rest of the casing because of the JB Weld seam. No metal connection! Maybe there is some other leading connection. Just thinking! Is that box metal maybe?
I thought the same thing, checked it with my ohm meter and there is conductivity somewhere. Might not be a bad idea to add a piece of bare copper from the switch enclosure to the junction box.
@@benpress8884 It's a bench grinder that costs as much as a well used classic car. I'd have removed the guards and fabricated my own rather than hack up the originals. That way future owners or I retain the ability to return it to stock if wanted. If the original guards were damaged than hacking them up wouldn't be a problem as they're already damaged.
Hey Kilroy, would you be interested is selling the tool rest brackets that you won't be using? I have a 1215 that is missing them. Your butchering could make another one whole again! Thanks for the video.
“Crisp November afternoon “. What temp is that? Us northern folks need to know so we can laugh . Unusually warm here in eastern ND, was above freezing and got to almost 40 deg F yesterday. Enjoy the video.
Ideal push in wire connectors. The, at long last, replacement for wire nuts. www.idealind.com/shop/index.php/product-type/connectors/in-sure-push-in-33.html Available in all sorts of sizes and combinations.
That came out fine and to confuse future generations have a label made that looks like a factory one, that says it's a buffer/polished or some such and make up a model number to add to the jolly wheeze factor.
Sounds good, ill give it a go
@@jtkilroy I might know a guy... 😎
Enjoyed...nice modifications and cleanup
Great to hear from you Chuck. My best to you and yours this Christmas.
Nice modifications. You might want to split the spacer for the wire wheel to better center it in the opening. Another thought: the ground lug is bolted to the JB welded portion of the bracket so any fault current will have to go through the motor starter enclosure and both mounting bolts. I would either bond to the lower bolt and add a ground wire to the motor terminal box.
I see no problem with the well executed modifications you made.
Well then, with a Brian Block seal of approval I shall go forth! Thanks dude.
Baldors as well as all old American grinders are so smooth compared to some other machines you buy today. As far as cutting up the guards, hey it's your baby, do what you need to do. If someday you need to go back you can always look around someplace for an old burned up machine or something. But my hunch is it will be so useful as configured, that will not be necessary. Cheers
Very interesting mod. Your’s looks good with the new hardware. Thanks for sharing this. I have refurbished a 612R, a 7308DP, a 412B, a 1021W, and a 1401W. I just bought a 1216W and might do something similar when I get it. Great idea you had. The cast iron switch mounts (bracket) on the larger grinders all seem to break at the same weak point. I never liked the switch box mounts and cable protectors that come standard so I make my own which are attached to the base only and not the motor housing.
I never had any luck using J B Weld in a butt joint situation.
I did learn to weld zinc diecast many years ago for a restoration project.
Strange stuff !!! LWS had some filler rod material that worked perfectly.
The weld had to be done with an Oxy / Acetylene torch, as the zinc alloy melts at a very low temperature.
I had no idea that Baldor would use a die cast material for a Mag Starter box support. They always seemed to favor cast iron, no matter how heavy it got !!!
That is one powerful deburring/wire brushing machine !!!
Good to see you in the shop again.
Tim
Your toy's, Your way. Love it.
Nice machine James. We ran 12x2 wheels on our grinders on the ship. Those 12 x 2 wire wheels throw lots of wire but do a great job for clean ups.
You can’t beat “old school” American iron for durability and ease of repair. These tools were built to operate for generations. BTW nice job on the mods. Respectfully executed and professional looking. Cheers from West Virginia.
Nice job, made it a useful tool of your liking. I have a couple of the boldore pedistal grinders, none better!
Hi James, great video. The earth may not be effective because of the JB weld may be insulating your earth point from the body of the grinder. For peace of mind, please check. Cheers, Richard
Beautiful job JT...Great video and a lot of work done by you for sure. Those left over castings will make good practice pieces for cast iron machinery welding with TIG nickel and/or bronze filler rod, if your so inclined.👍✔💯
Nice grinder at a GREAT price. You did a really nice job on the restoration. It should serve you for many years. I have a smaller version Baldor and it is a joy to work with. I have a Scotchbrite wheel on one end and a buffing wheel on the other. That Scotchbrite wheel does a wonderful job on deburring aluminum parts.
John
When I was an electrician in the '70's we wired devices slightly different from what you did. Black was the left wire (220V 1 phase) as you found out white was the middle wire, red was the right wire. In 3 phase it was; black left, red center, blue on the right.
Take something from nothing into a useful tool is great. Thanks for sharing
Nice build James. Recently I bought the Baldor 3 HP, 3 Phase buffer, with the cast iron stand, for what you paid. Both great prices. BTW I am wearing the same shirt as you today. From the BASH a couple years ago.
You own it, do whatever the hell you want to with it! I butchered my Jet 8"
It meets your needs that is all that matters. You paid for it did you not? Enough said. Thanks for sharing.
At first, I was appalled that you were going to butcher that Baldor, however, when I saw the condition, it was a good candidate.
Awesome use for the grinder. Tidy modifications that look perfect on the grinder. Thank you for sharing a great idea!
Those covers came out very nice. Looks factory.
Nice mods. Came out factory looking.
Beautiful job, It should serve you well for many years. It would be over kill but, I suggest that you run a 12 gauge green copper wire from the ground point in the switch to somewhere on the body of the grinder/polisher/buffer. probably not needed, but in my opinion there are to many connecting surfaces between your ground point and the body of the unit.
Thank God your Ace Mechanic stopped in and volunteered a little time to get you back on track, or you'd still be messing with it. Best of Luck, Stay Healthy..........................
Another point.......Look how smooth and vibration free it runs. Not bolted down and standing still on the bench. Compare this Old Piece of American Iron to the Brand New Chinesium one Keith Fenner bought and how much work he had to do to make it 1/2 as smooth as yours. You made a wise choice my friend.
Hello Jay,
Looks like a good job to me...
Have a good weekend.
Paul,,
Thanks for the ride 👍😎👍. Came out great. Super happy you had the foresight to pull the plasma out and make that paperweight functional.
Good job sir. I just did that voltage wiring change on a Bridgeport mill. I had a hard time reading the numbers on the motor wires but got it done and it runs fine. The wire combinations were the same on my motor as yours. Its very satisfying to restore an old piece of equipment. Merry Christmas from Kansas.
Nice to see you again in the shop, Jay. Nice to also see your son in there for part of it. Those always have to be fun times working. Hope you and your family have a great Christmas season.
Hi Jay Well done and presented! I see a unit destined for scrap turned into a fully functional aid to doing a needed activity in a workmanlike manner. Great job. regards vic
Good advice on the PPE. Stuck one of those wires into my eye . Had to go in hospital to have it removed. Penetrated over one inch.
Ouch! I was using a big cup brush on a grinder the other day, felt a pin prick, damn wire shot through my apron, then my shirt! Not nearly as bad as an eye however! Full recovery I hope?
Looks good to me. Should certainly do what you want.
Personally I might have left about 20 degrees more of the wheel shield, but that's just me. I can certainly understand why you opened it up.
Fantastic video I’m now a new subscriber and I’m looking forward to going through your videos thanks for sharing stay safe all the best have a great Christmas god bless
Same to you, have a wonderful, and safe, Christmas.
Noice! Always a great advantage to having dedicated equipment, the rebuild took a lot of sweat, but you can't argue with your spectacular end result. Enjoyed, cheers!
Looks great! Not butchery in my book, if it makes it work better. Don't want to lose a finger when buffing!
A REAL 3-phase service must be nice :) Modifying the guards for your intended use is a good call. *I* would have had to split that outer spacer and put half on the inside of the wire wheel to center it fully though, just my OCD... Glad to see you are posting more again!
Sounda like a good idea, thanks.
It's your's! Do what ever you want with it.
nice mods build to suit stay safe
Great job, looks factory 👍
Always enjoy your videos!!!! Merry Christmas to you and your family
Should have made a pattern for replacement mount with KILROY across it
Working on a pattern for mounting the debur wheel now.
A lot safer when using a wire wheel ,well done it looks great
Machine looks great!
Advantage of wearing a mask. The boy does not have to smell his old man's farts. Great to see him taking the Covid-19 seriously.
If it is your machine, and you want it your way, then it is not sacrilege to modify it. The next owner will see it and if he wants it like that he will buy it. If he does not like it then he will walk away.
Great videos
That paper mask will not remove obnoxious vapors !
She looks great :-) Very nice :-)
You do fine work. I don't know why anyone would protest modifying a tool to be used again.
No issue looks FACTORY
Those "butchered" covers look great and will definitely serve their purpose very well. Lots of protection as well as lots of room to deburr large odd shaped objects.
Please do tell though, what's with that huge fan in the background? Are you planning on building a wind test tunnel? If you are I'd love to watch. Greetings from Athens,Greece
It gets damn hot round here in the summer!
Nothing like Baldor quite. Don't think the mods did any harm. Have a great Christmas!
keep up the good work.
With that ground in the Switchbox: The top screw is isolatet to the rest of the casing because of the JB Weld seam. No metal connection! Maybe there is some other leading connection. Just thinking! Is that box metal maybe?
I thought the same thing, checked it with my ohm meter and there is conductivity somewhere. Might not be a bad idea to add a piece of bare copper from the switch enclosure to the junction box.
I thought the same, but I suspect the switchbox itself is providing the continuity bridge to the lower portion of the mounting bracket.
I came here to ask the same question.
Good job
Nice refurbish and modification. Looks factory.
It’s a monster
I just picked up one the other day. Having an issue with it though. The motor will turn very slow then get hot
Do the bearings spin freely with no noise? Have taken an ohm meter to the windings to check for issues?
Poor ole pacemaker..........
Hey the Pacemaker has a new, loving home, and will be well cared for. And the new lathe cuts metric threads and has a 4" bore through the headstock!
Hello Sir. Nice to hear/ see from you. Did you put a killroy was here on your sea train storage unit ?
Possibly 😉 (upcoming video)
Not sure I could ever bring myself to butcher a $2500-3000 machine, not matter how beat it was.
What's the big deal? It's a bench grinder, not a classic car.
@@benpress8884 It's a bench grinder that costs as much as a well used classic car. I'd have removed the guards and fabricated my own rather than hack up the originals. That way future owners or I retain the ability to return it to stock if wanted. If the original guards were damaged than hacking them up wouldn't be a problem as they're already damaged.
Hey Kilroy, would you be interested is selling the tool rest brackets that you won't be using? I have a 1215 that is missing them. Your butchering could make another one whole again! Thanks for the video.
My email is at the end of the video, send me your address.
I have a smaller baldor that I should mount some wheels on and use
“Crisp November afternoon “. What temp is that? Us northern folks need to know so we can laugh . Unusually warm here in eastern ND, was above freezing and got to almost 40 deg F yesterday. Enjoy the video.
Crisp, for us, is 40's. Dont pick on us for lack of a real winter, because we have Mississippi summers!
What are those blocks you used to connect the motor leads? That's a lot slicker than using crimp terminals.
Ideal push in wire connectors. The, at long last, replacement for wire nuts.
www.idealind.com/shop/index.php/product-type/connectors/in-sure-push-in-33.html
Available in all sorts of sizes and combinations.
@@jtkilroy nice, I'm going to pick some up. Thanks!
Build a stand, make it bulletproof 🤐
How did your back feel after all that ending over? Smarter move would have been to put it on a bench, but that's just an old guy talking.
Had to take it apart before my son and I could lift the thing without me having a blowout! I totally agree. I would love a lift table one day.
Long time to be bent over right half in two.