If key Green Bay Packers regressed in 2024, how did the team get better overall?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- You know the names, the marquee Packers who didn't play up to their standard in 2024. So how did they actually get better overall as a team? Plus, why the 2020 offense made be the best model for Matt LaFleur, and what Rich Bisaccia is going to be doing with an extension.
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Offense regressed. Reed, doubs, and wicks, and love.
So did special teams. Too many penalties and falling for the Bears’ trick return was unforgivable. Poor coaching.
We won't be going anywhere with a bunch of mediocre WR's and a mid QB.
@@PackerBacker911 correct. Has to get better. I’ll be kind and assume injury played a role, and it hurt everyone that Watson often wasn’t 100%. Shame on MLF for playing him in the Bears game with a brace, as the resulting injury put his career at risk. Big year coming up.
I conrend Love stunk draging down the wr groupb witth him .The words average , overated ,overpaid and Bust are being said about Love.
The players did not regress based off of there own performance it’s the coaches not lighting a fire under all these players. The packers organization is too soft from top to bottom. Robert saleh would have been the energy we need, a Dan Campbell type.
The Packers were “statistically” good because they played teams like the Titans and Colts. They had a soft schedule. When the Packers played actual teams like the Lions, Vikings, and Eagles they got smacked in the mouth. If they dont make a far run this upcoming season, Matt LaFleur needs to be on the hot seat.
Dude smacked is a bit of an over statement they lost 2 games by more then one possession. I get it the packers aren’t the best they coulda been but like chill 😂 your packers privilege is showing lol
Packers had one of the hardest schedules actually. Although some teams were injured when playing the Packers (Rams, Saints to name a few).
@@Bastillon5th hardest to exact. Also, how is being down 6 pts in the 4th to the Eagles being smacked?!?
I think what is often overlooked when it comes to the Packers is that they are still in rebuilding mode after they wasted the entire draft of 2021. In that draft Packers drafted Stokes instead of JOK, Myers instead of Creed Humphrey and Amari freaking Rodgers instead of Nick Collins or St Brown. All of these alternatives were quite obvious picks, rated way higher on the consensus board than our picks. The rest of the draft was horrible too. After this year all of those picks will probably be out, and we have a chance to rebuild the talent in the room. This infamous 2021 draft impacted two regimes: both Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love were significantly hampered by the ineptitude of our management and scouts at the 2021 draft.
The answer is simple. They added Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney. They played a weak schedule and then all the young guys of 2023 first half of year weren’t awful anymore. That’s the difference. Their floor was raised and they were better than 2023 first half of season, but They were worse than 2023 2nd half of season and their ceiling lowered.
6th toughest schedule? Not easy
@@SinisterJackelinflated by playing 15 and 14 win teams twice.
They played the 3 best teams(lions,Vikings, eagles) in NFC twice a piece. What’re you talking about? They were arguably way healthier last year
The defense made a big jump while the offense was inconsistent! We need a demolition man on the defensive line. Someone who can destroy guards or tackles. A press man CB with NFL experience will be good. Maybe a veteran WR can help the offense. Load up in the draft, and then I think we're ready to take anybody on.
@@vincentanzisi9772 it’s a valid counterpoint if they didn’t go 0-6 in those games. They beat the lions and chiefs last year, beat the hell out of the cowboys in the playoffs and had the 49ers on the ropes, hence this years team having a worse ceiling but a higher floor.
I think LaFleur got more conservative once he realized he could lean on Jacobs. There was a real, negative psychological effect of being a "power running" team. The drop in Reed's production follows that pattern for sure. More power runs and less play action. The power running strategy worked against bad teams, but not elite ones.
Yeah I’ve thought the same thing. The offense lived and died on Jacob’s consistent rushing.
I can see Lloyd being option 4 in patterns being extremely helpful
The 2 best players on this team are players we signed, not drafted and developed. For a franchise that is chained to the hip of the draft and develop strategy to not get players that develop is disturbing. Gutey has drafted 48 players, including 9 1st rounders. How many of those have got to 2nd contracts? 4 (Ja, Gary, Elgton, and JLo) technically 5 i suppose if you include Dillon and the only player that got to a 3rd deal, was Kenny who was drafted by Ted. How many pro bowlers drafted? 3 (Ja, Elgton, and Gary). how many all pros? 1 (Ja, 2nd team). How many ROTY? none. OPOY? None. DPOY? None. Sure Gutey can spot enough talent in the later rounds to form a competitive roster but we dont have the star power needed to make the jump from competitive to competitor and there's a big difference between the two. These "project" or "developmental" players, especially in the 1st round and early rounds, has to stop all together or get better.
Stuff like extending our special team coach contract shows our vision for this team 😊
Do you not remember how bad our ST were before Rich got here? They were historically bad and cost us a Super Bowl appearance. My blood pressure would rise everytime there was a punt. I don’t think people remember just how bad the ST were the last few years of Rodgers.
@ they are still bad😊
Anyone who thinks Love did not take a step back this past season clearly is in the minority. To say playing lousy is being consistet is twisting that word to the point of being clueless and irrational.
Green Bay only 'regressed' in 2024 if you saw 2023 as normal, and expected to go to the Superbowl in 2025. The Packers over performed in 2023, and looked better than they really were, and, with Love's injury in 2024 they under performed. The reality of they youngest team in the league both years was somewhere in the middle. By the numbers, the Pack got better. As an aside, I really didn't like to see Love playing when he was hurting and not 100%; in 2025 I hope GB will not hesitate to use Malik Willis - he's a real talent, wouldn't mind seeing some packages with both Love and Willis on the field at the same time.
The other teams that are better than us have a better front office and better coaching.
Nobody has a better front office
They have a better QB and WR's.
They just hit on high end talent all out guys either high end talents are just guys. Gary, LVN, Wyatt, quay, Morgan are all just good players which can’t happened when they are all 1st rounders. Philly hit on there 1st rounders and we didn’t pretty simple
Youngest team in the NFL you people don’t realize how crazy that is next year is it doesn’t work we can talk. “Packers privilege”
There is no doubt the defense improved but the offense certainly did not. Jacobs was the lone bright spot but LaFluer did not seem to know how to take advantage of the running game to improve the passing game. In the end, the Packers benefited from a easy schedule facing the AFC south and a banged up NFC west. They played the Rams and 49ers when they were decimated by injuries, a poor Saints team, and Miami at home in the cold. They got destroyed by the Division and was a blocked FG from getting swept. No signature wins over better record opponents. So, did they get better overall? That's a debate.
Don’t forget the Eagles added Oren Burks. He’s so verified that defense making big splash plays!! 😂
Well for one thing a big part of our "improvement" is a mirage, one created by playing the putrid AFC south for 4 games (how many games better was our record over 2023? oh...).
We did get better in some places, the defense was better, McKinney, Jacobs and McManus were amazing additions. But the offense regressed, Love regressed, he was either reckless with turnovers or if he was careful became a non factor.
I just want to point out, Texans OC Bobby Slowik was fired, despite them making the divisional round, because the young QB he was tasked with developing regressed from their standout first year starting. Just saying maybe Love's regression should have consequences for the person tasked with his development. Should LaFleur be fired? No. Should he be knocked off the high pedestal he's been put on by so many people and become open to criticism? Definitely.
The best players on the team were all free agents. We need to add more free agents so we can win more games instead of talking this nonsense about how we are the youngest team. If we add Adams he will be the best WR on the team and he's over the hill.
Holy shit a reasonable take😂 I love you
We got better because of Josh and Xavier …. Two free agents … and we need add 2 more this offseason … preferably maxx and dk, tee, or Adam’s
What’s not to love about Rich? The results speak for themselves. He’s a winner.
And the results are that we are ranked 28th on the first site I see. I believe he was the highest paid ST coach when hired. So yeah, results speak for themselves, he sucks. How does 28th make him, "a winner"?
@ well that’s crazy because I definitely meant that.
Common, Peter. Hurt was rusty that first game back
Fools gold. Thats what the stats says but can’t beat eagles, lions and Vikings. Eagles beat winning teams and packers did not. Packers need to add more fire power on skill position. When the eagles need to make a crucial catch to keep driving going or when the run game is slow they were able to pass. The two no1 wr they have change how teams defend them as well. Do you defend the pass or the run. If you defend the wr the te gets open in the middle. Eagles are nightmare matchup for any team.
We could barely beat Duh Bears. We almost got swept by them. That's pretty sad!
Yes it was sad that the packers struggled against the bears. Going 0-6 in the division should have happen and force the gm and hc to do something about it.
@@klohr311 It's hard to believe how bad we were within the division. If someone would have told us that's how the season would have gone no one would have believed it.
Nightmare for the Chiefs? We’ll see.
The team wasn't better, the schedule was easier. This team got worse.
Most the teams we played were ravaged by injury.
7:01 eagles should’ve scored 30 on us 😆
Yeah people forget Saquon had an easy TD but he went down lol
I don’t think that Love got over his injuries. He came back too soon. He did not use his ability to scramble in situations where he could have easily picked up a first down or changed the outcome of the game. He became a pocket passer.
I don't think Rashad regressed. You heard his name a lot. I think he was contained because he was the only to play hard in the front 7
Kenny Clark is a beast to my surprise Wyatt showed out a lot this year I think the big problem with Gary is what a lot of people have said. He’s a power rusher who wants to be a finesse rusher and it just doesn’t work. Later in the year he started just going thru people that’s what works for him.
He regressed he’s overrated he’s not aggressive at all
I understand the thoughts about Watson but it misses the point that the Packers need that type of player not that CW is the only guy that could play that position. GB needs to look for those traits. JMHO there may not be a ton of WR as physically giftedas CW, but there are many that are close with much better receiving skills and are less injury-prone. If GB brings CW back, great, but he can be replaced.
If the receivers caught the ball Jordan Love wouldn't look bad this year...
I think Matt can be too loyal like he was with joe Barry and the special teams coach before Bisachio (spelling). It could be one of his flaws and that same thing could be happening with the special teams coach; you want the best coaches; as you mentioned, the Eagles made a couple changes and look what a difference it made. Like you said, we don’t know about the culture fit with Rich, but I’m concerned with anyone who makes decisions like Andres Carlson.
vicissitude? wow!
Oh boy, more Rich & Luike!
Ummmm....MLF doesn't know his kicker's range without calling a timeout? What? Wouldn't he know that before the kicker entered the building? Does his range change every 5 minutes?
Don't forget injury which is a huge variable with this organization . They don't have the depth to overcome that I think Watson is done its obvious his body can't hold up to NFL play.
100% regressed … our Head Coach, Gary, Love, Clark, Wicks, Doubs, Reed. Reoccurring Injuries have returned for Alexander and this is not helping because he is missing too many games. I would trade ( if the deal is right) Gary, VanNess, Alexander. Regarding improving and growing, that should be a given if you regress you stand the chance of being beat out on a Rookie Draft pick, being traded or even cut. We have positions o&need…PASS RUSH is terrible. Our defensive secondary is n reliable because f Alexander’s absence and lack of depth. Finally too many drops by receivers, they’re not good receiver if they cannot receive the pass. Start looking at the Draft
The players didn't regress. They just aren't great players. Good enough to start. But not good enough to make a difference.
Who cares who we get in 1st round. Our GM butchers those picks anyways 😅.
We had the 6th toughest schedule this year not easy
Yeah cause our division, we played the afc south which is a laughable division and played the shitty nfc west and got the rams when literally everyone was hurt, the Seahawks are frauds, 9ers were a shell of themselves, cards, 8 wins against the 2 joke divisions
That's what happens when you get rid of your veteran players .this going to the draft for your answers is a big laugh .you won't ever reach a super bowl with nothing but rookies .
He coaches like McCarthy wwhen it comes to clock management, and time outs. Our special teams will cost us close games yet again. Nothing has changed since 2011 🙄
The Green Bay Packers got better in many ways during this season, mostly in terms of winning more games and improving significantly on defense in the 1st year under Jeff Hafley. But it wouldn’t be unfair to say that the Green Bay Packers failed to reach their potential this season due to a number of individual players or position groups taking a step back or failing to take a meaningful step forward. The passing game and defensive front were especially troublesome areas by PFF grade and Jordan Love and his top 5 targets regressed compared to 2023, and all but 1 player from the defensive front took a fairly substantial step back. When push came to shove in big games, the Green Bay Packers just weren’t good enough in the passing game or disrupting up front on defense.
It's not good to have a bunch of mediocre WR's and a mid QB in a passing league.