most of the list is great but not having a dragon crossbow is absurd. the one thing the dragon cross bow brings is the ranged str you get in bolt usage. which as we all know is massive. dragon crossbow is a must for any low level and for the price is such a huge upgrade over the rune crossbow
Yeah you are right. I overlooked it's ability to fire dragon bolts just because I never use d-bolts and it honestly slipped my mind. Thanks for keeping me honest!
@@runewraith yeah, you should reupload the video, you're spreading miss information because of ignorance, dragon bolts are such a valuable tool to use.
Re: avernic Raid items are usually intended to help players complete the content they come from. It's a good, permanent account upgrade that everyone should make at some point, but maybe wait until you're tob ready to make upgrades from tob
I bought the Avernic Defender Hilt when it was right around 40mil. Such lucky timing haha. Same with the Dex prayer scroll - it was only 13m when I got it. Just those two items would run you well over 100m at current GE prices rn.
Do note that for range, level actually increases ur dmg. So good to skip things like archer’s ring imbue, range boots, pegasian boots until ur lvl 99 and have a lot of cash.
Idk why you include imbuing Archer's Ring in this comment. Literally all it takes is 3.Xm for the ring and then some time in NMZ training like you could anywhere else.
This is actually a really great list. I 100% agree and have been avoiding every single one of these items for ages lol, awesome advice for mid game players.
2 changes that id make 1- dragon crossbow is good bc it can shoot higher tier bolts then rune cbow thats really its only saving grace 2- with dt2 coming out the seer and archers ring are getting a str bonus upgrade so worth picking up for l8r
Neitzsnot helm/slayer helm (on task),Brimstone ring, amulet of furry, Obsidian body, verac skirt,d boots, dfs/dragon defender, whip or zam hasta- i am a melee killer. Good dps good defense. Dragon d hides , book of law , same amulet and same ring but with dcb and diamond dragon bolts (e). I master range . Taking my staff of swamp and some blue mystic robes with some brimstone boots and zamorak god book i m the villain from Harry Potter. 30 m and lvl 80-90 base combat stats and I m spreading fear and terror in the goblins from the swamp. Ty for the upload effort . Good edit.
I've always hated people calling the fighter torso "free". If it takes time to grind it isn't free. Barbarian Assault is one of the least enjoyable mini-games you can do and with a GOOD team it's 3-4 hours of grinding. However if you've not got a team? Hell you could be looking at a 7-8 hour grind. And you get ZERO xp during that time. I would rather buy a bandos chest and spend that grind doing pretty much anything else.
If you are grinding Vorkath for any significant amount of kills, the Bandos chestplate is absolutely worth it. The Fighter Torso is paper thin in that scenario otherwise.
I never realized what a low upgrade the pegasian boots were. I never looked at the stat upgrade because of the price but what a huge price for such a small upgrade
only value in the dragon crossbow is in the use of dragon diamonds and dragon ruby bolts. when including the bolt upgrade, it gives a much higher dps than rune cbow. so if u gonna be bolting anything, dcb is the wave. and i think BP is automatic must have item, and discussion on dragon crossbow is just after BP is acquired. to add to your arsenal.
I completely disagree with the DCB, not because of the +4 attack bonus but what I think is often forgotten is that you can also use dragon blots with the DCB which is a strength increase over the RCB prior to TOA it used to be much cheaper but that extra DBS on some of the bosses is extremely worth it. Would I get a blowpipe first? Yes, but considering the upgrade from DCB is 63 mil I think you should definitely get it.
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Everyone else is already saying but yeah. Dragon crossbow. I’m a poor player but I can actually get KC at vorkath and phantom muspah because of the Dragon crossbow. Without it you’re not killing them. Diamond and ruby dragon bolts pay for themselves when you kill bosses like that and at my current range level they seem to get me kills faster the BP because of the 100s. Eventually BP would put dps but not currently. And it’s not like a blowpipe is very cheap either with the cost of both darts and zulrah scales.
The main reason to get a dragon crossbow is to use dragon bolts which have a higher range str bonus than the rune crossbow... its not at all a bad pick up, the armadyl crossbow is barely an upgrade in comparison and is literally 20x the cost
Agree with everything BUT the Dragon Crossbow since having stronger versions of certain bolts like diamond will actually benefit you pvm-wise on the long run like for example Muspah
@@workscs it's worth it even at 90m honestly. If you have max melee stats with a fire cape getting avernic defender gives you +2 max hits at Cerberus or anything with arclight, if you use DHL for vorkath you can use neitz faceguard + avernic to get the best possible dps, it gives +2 max hits and makes it better to use salve amulet than a slayer helm. Max a 64 instead of 62 it's absolutely massive dps increase
@@kylebusc3624 It is a worthwhile upgrade, but that 90m could easily go into other things that will help more. You can get tassets, prims, and a faceguard for 90m. The tassets alone will give you the +2 you would get over the dragon defender. I think the list is more for players who don't already have all of the cheaper upgrades. Heck, even Ferocious Gloves are are more of an upgrade from barrows than the Avernic is from dragon.
avernic is easily the biggest noob trap in the entire game there is never a reason to justify buying an avernic before you can afford one of a scythe, tbow or shadow to camp their respective raids to rebuild quickly lol being able to sell back most upgrades to do a raid mega rare rebuild is infinitely more valuable than whatever negligible gain an early avernic gives you'd barely notice how much time an avernic saves for kph compared to how much time shadow saves, meaning by not buying the avernic, you get the shadow sooner, which means you get to make back the money for the avernic way faster than the other way around
I’m so glad I actually did almost all this before even watching this, got my fighter torso and bought only bandos tassets, skipped dragon crossbow and went for blowpipe, then saved for dhcb. I did but archers ring and imbued it, I notice quicker brutal black dragon kills per hour ever since.
Brutals are actually a good place for the archers ring since defense bonus’s from the suffering really don’t apply (due to taking 0 damage from brutal black dragons). definitely a situation where the archers ring is a good choice.
I thought for sure my guy was going to explain porters 5 forces, and blue/red ocean. Felt like I just walked into an economics class. Not hating, I actually loved it.
Everywhere people hate on Barb Assault, so i delayed my torso, and done it week ago and i had lots of fun in barb assault. And it didnt even took long(around 2-3h).
I agree with most of the video, but saying that accuracy and defensive bonuses aren't relevant is kinda misleading. A good example for this is the fight caves. It might seem that elite void is better than blessed d'hide since it has a damage bonus, but it's almost never actually worth bringing. The accuracy and defenses you get from blessed d'hide outweigh the damage from elite void massively since it's a situation where tanking is important and you'll be killing a lot of monsters with high defenses. There are a lot of other niche situations like this, like how before torva, inquisitor wasn't worth using in many places where it was bis because bandos could just tank better, etc. Or on the flipside, even before being given a damage boosting set effect, inquisitor was still solidly bis in niche situations where tanking wasn't relevant because the accuracy it provided over bandos made a difference. And this is doubly true at lower levels. As your defense, attack and strength level increase, they scale completely differently. Attack and defense gear lose a lot of their value at higher levels since the bonuses scale linearly with your level, and you have a better baseline stat without specialized gear as you level up. So their respective stat boosting items become less important over time. While for strength, it's a common rule of thumb that +4 strength on gear will equate to a max hit, but this is only true at higher strength levels. So if you're lower level, you need a lot more strength bonus to give you an additional max hit, and any strength bonus that doesn't give you one is completely useless. So prioritizing max hits can often be a trap for lower level players working with lower tiers of gear.
You are right, but he's got a point: I'd say this video is more or less aimed at end of low to mid game players that might be tempted to sink a huge pile of gp on ONE huge upgrade that would be useless for daily activities. What is the point in sinking 25M in bandos tasset if you are still wearing an amulet of glory ? As far as I am concerned the scenarios you are refering would be too long to explain since it requires some prior knowledge and could be it's own video (void). Great content for players that are at that point tho.
True. However, at low levels, there are almost no items that have a high enough accuracy compared to the strength bonus items to actually go for accuracy instead. Defence items are plentiful and might seem worth bringing over strength bonus items. But the thing is, most low level defence equipment doesn't cover the strength bonus slots like amulets, rings, boots and weapon... so it's always strength first, even at low levels.
@@dutchraider2 There are a couple notable exceptions, but yeah generally you're right, most gear in the game is not scaled in a way where practically you want defense or accuracy gear that often. But it's good to keep the other bonuses in mind because you can always find exceptions where they do matter against certain bosses or even slayer mobs. So while it is correct to say that most items in the game are designed in a way where defence and attack bonuses can generally be ignored, this logic breaks down super fast when applied to every piece of content at every conceivable level, especially when you're making decisions like strength ammy vs power ammy, or obsidian platelegs vs tank legs early on.
I get the Fighter Torso argument of course 25m is a huge save, but the defensive bonuses of the Chestplate are massively underrated. Good luck tanking bosses for multiple kills with paper defences: more time spent eating rather than attacking, supply costs increased, time spent banking increased.
I don't really agree with the dragon cross bow, while it's only a 4 acc bonus, it allows access to dragon bolts which have a significantly higher dps than the other gem tipped variants
The thing is that in the end you use more supplies. The enemy takes longer to kill, so they have more opporunities to damage you, so you take more damage. This is why increasing your dps is actually better for resource preservation than defence.
Dragon crossbow fires dragon bolts which is worth the upgrade. It the bofa is well over 100m more the d crossbow so not likely to see people jump from rune to bofa
i disagree with bcp. bcp is a shield of armor at 30m. you can afford to take a few hits and not worry about dying. i mean, high tier bosses and raids will make sure you mess up and tank a few hits and i dont think torso will fit well in that scenario. also disagree with ring of suffering over archer ring. sure, in bossing, ring of suffering gives a better advantage but when doin slayer or training range, i would much rather choose archers ring imbued over ring of suffering for accuracy bonus.
if you're doing slayer you should always be using rigour and the +4 prayer bonus from suffering is going to be way more worth your time/gp ratio than +8 accuracy which you aren't even going to notice because any non-boss slayer tasks worth doing that you don't barrage, have low defence anyway
Another thing that this list doesn’t really consider is weight. For armadyl armor this is HUGE. D’hide weights a lot and then you lose about 8-10kg switching to armadyl. While this doesn’t seem significant, during a solo cox raid or Sara godwars fight this would be noticeable.
Decent list; I wish you had sorted it by amount of gp "lost" on using the item. Also some items that probably could have been included. Kodai Wand, Arcane Shield, Elysian Shield,
I honestly don’t know a ton of places the brimstone ring is really useful or bis. Hence the 3m price. I tend to think the DK rings fit better most of the time unless you’re looking to save a switch on a boss which you need more than 1 combat style for. Generally max hits are king and you won’t get max hits with brimstone (usually). It’s like a fury, decent all around but not the best at anything.
Lets never forget that Better gears means less hours spent in game.. I see it has in investiment.. I buy it , i use it .. Save dozens of hours getting 99 or making bank and just sell it back for barely no loss or even profit! This guides only apply to those who dont have any bank yet.
I would say that the dragon crossbow is worth. Only because the price difference between that and the rune one is negligible when compared to the difference between the dragon crossbow and the acb. The acb barely increases stats and is only KIND OF worth it for the spec attack with ruby bolts. It's like 30mil more than the dragon crossbow
Bruh Seers ring 300k Suffering 16 mil Light bearer 6 mil « Seers ring is useless compared to its 2000% priced counter parts » Huh. Who would have thought??
So your advice on the rings would be fine if it wasnt for the 2 other rings you mentioned being niche. The lightbearer is only good once you get D. Claws, Dragon dagger is great if it didnt lower your accuracy, and the seers ring imbued giving a +12 to attack is actually quite massive and makes hitting a lot easier and is very affordable unlike the tormented bracelet. The archer's ring imbued is best in slot for range and range doesn't have another option unless you include the brimstone ring. +8 doesn't seem like alot but it actually is.
More specs = more damage than a zerk,archer etc, even dds is effectively 8 specs vs 4, do any boss with double specs is amazing especially in defense drain. Also useful for more xp skilling etc
In fact ring of suffering gets more dps in than most bosses unless boss can be protected fully from prayer which is not that often in highend bosses if u make a mistake
You forgot ACB, Primordial boots, ranger boots, amulet of torture and ring of suffering. Dragon crossbow is definitely a great upgrade from rune crossbow until you can afford BoFa since it allows you to fire better bolts.
Depends on what you are fighting. High defense bosses bring crossbow generally. For low defense mobs the msb is better because of higher attack speeds.
I don’t like leaving negative comments but this video is not good advice. Other than like pegasian boots and armadyl a lot of these items are pretty good. Also you promise it’s worth it to wait for items to stabilize? I bought the tang at like 220m and it’s tanked but I made around 3b at toa because I had a fang, this is terrible advice man.
You had me fucked up on the dragon crossbow . There are so many bosses that requires a crossbow that can use dragon bolts Like armadyle boss for example.
you wanna know the trick? make and alt while your starting your new main, even when your training your making money, i have a fishing cooking alt that just regardless of how much money or time i have i can make a buck off it or at least counteract payments for mats im using on my main if i need. rc, smithing, wc, and flethcing alts are also great to look at, ill prolly upgrade my alt now its 105up in fishing and cooking, gunna make it a blood rune farm now and do some afk money making on my alt now to get levels while turning the alt into a main as well so i can switch on and off. get used to having an alt early as possible, it sounds like alot but so many afk things to do make this super important
funny enough just made a third acc to walk my homie through the game as hes interested, still gaining levels and making bank of my two accs while helping the homie and slowly making a third to hopefully lend out to other homies if they ever wanna play without all the grind lol. but yah i didnt think id be able to run 3 accs at once... well its alot easier than i thought especially just building
I was buying Osmumten's Fang at 50m the week it released and flipped around 20 of them shortly after for about 122m each. Take advantage of the uncertain market on release when you can get good deals off of clueless players.
So i'm about to hit 92 range and i'm going for 99 slayer range only. Should I switch to blowpipe? I'm getting conflcting information with each page/video I click. i'm using runite bolts and hitting quite high now just very slow. Can someone point me in the right direction? My bank is worth 22m (Don't diss) So i'm a little weary as most of that is just my gear and I have 4m left over and I know it's been heavily nerfed and I know it's quite expensive to run with the scales darts etc. Any advice would be a great help :)
Blowpipe is an essential weapon in your PvM arsenal however, you stated that your goal is 99 slayer. The blowpipe WILL speed up a lot of slayer tasks (like greater demons, black demons, bloodvelds, vampires, spiritual creatures etc...) however, it does come at a hefty cost. I have a 1.4b bank and I don't use the blowpipe 100% of the time for slayer because the darts and scales get pretty expensive! The answer to your question depends on whats more important to you: speed to 99 slayer or your cash/bank value. You can still get 99 with a RCB but a lot of the tasks will take quite a bit longer. You could probably get more bang for your buck using a cannon and cannon balls for slayer rather than a blowpipe. I will say if you get into PvM at all in the future the blowpipe is used pretty much everywhere so its a must have weapon eventually!
@@runewraith Thank-you for the quick reply my dude. Yeah sorry I should of elaborated more. I was using D cross and yeah I'm also using a cannon :) I bit the bullet last night and my cheap ass went and got one. The tasks are so so fast now so glad I got it. Only downside I've found is because of the range some of my safe spots I can't use "rapid" and have to use the Longfire so I'm having to bring prayer pots a bit more. But yeah more pricey but fo sure worth it. Thanks again dude have a good day!
Yeah go for the blowpipe if you like wasting 1-2mil on filling it up with sales & darts every week or so. Ideally you should be using dragondarts at 1k+ per dart, as it gives it slightly better stats than the magic shortbow (i) with amethyst arrows. That 4-5mil wasted on a blow pipe, is totally worth it compared the MSB(i), that costs 200k< for the bow imbued, + 1 mil spent on rune or amethyst arrows.
what is the ring at 9:16 that is suggested? I recognise suffering but not the yellow one. when I turn captions on it says: Library. I cannot understand the word he said even after listening multiple time
It’s called the “Lightbearer” it’s a reward from the Tombs of Amascut and doubles your special attack regeneration rate! Apologies for slurring my speech there 😄
I'm still confused on the magic formula, but cannot fathom how lightbearer is a better replacement than seers ring. I dont know of any magic attack that uses a special and since the lightbearer gives only special recharge passive effect it seems like it isnt a good replacement
It’s all situational. In reality because of the magic formula you only use magic on enemies who have no magic defense otherwise range/melee become the better options. If we only kill enemies that have no magic defense then magical accuracy really isn’t necessary and magic damage becomes critical. Seers ring only provides accuracy so one of it’s only uses is during barraging slayer tasks however if you wear the lightbearer you get double spec regen so the SGS special becomes way more effective for saving prayer and health. I’d take double the SGS specs over +8 magical accuracy any day. Also there are the nightmare staffs/orbs which have specs that benefit from the lightbearer as well. In most instances I probably wouldn’t wear the lightbearer with my mage gear but would wear something like the suffering for its defense bonuses. Hopefully this helps to clear some things up!
I almost never use my archers ring. I’ve found that the lightbearer or ring of suffering are what I bring in about 95% of my PvM encounters. That being said I use my berserker ring imbued all the time as well!
Disagree with bcp and dcb. In the time it takes you to get a torso you could easily make 10-15M cash which is half of the cost of a bcp already and on top of that its way tankier and gives prayer. Dcb has been mentioned enough :D
I don't agree with the dragon crossbow as the dragon crossbow has access to the dragon bolts that the rune dose not that is where it's getting the extra damage and utility
i may be biased because mage is my favorite combat style but eternals and seers ring are so cheap you might aswell grab them because theyre best in slot. but for newer players theyre waaay lower on the priority list
Hard disagree. Technically, the Brimstone ring is the best magic dps ring in the game as it has a chance to ignore the target's magic defense which is significantly more helpful than +4 magic bonus. In the same way, using the Boots of Brimstone for the added defense bonuses or the Devout Boots for prayer bonus are a lot more helpful in *most* situations where you are using magic. The only time I think the Eternal Boots matter is when you're using the Tumeken's Shadow to turn their +8 boost into a +24 or +32 magic bonus against a target that is normally magic resistant.
avernic being 64m for a few bogus stats while dragon hunter cbow is 64m is just absurd…like u want candy for 64m or u want a chef to cook for u for 64m???
Great point but for the most part yeah. There are a few scenarios where defense does matter however in OSRS the general consensus is: “monsters do 0 DPS to you when they are dead so kill them as fast as possible” since defense doesn’t really align with this goal it isn’t the top priority.
Literally have a friend stop playing cause he bragged about buying the gang when it was like 200m and no butt hurt that it’s only 60. (P.s he bought bonds to supply his gold lmao)
You certainly can. Prims definitely aren’t worth the upgrade imo either. I just felt weird putting all 3 BIS boots in this video which is why I didn’t include them. In retrospective I should have replaced the dragon crossbow with prims in this video
@@runewraith damn for real? I baught mass, better sell them before the holidays then when they might double, also do you know this for definite? Only started playing again, maybe they might release something different from the 0Gz
Good video but constantly hearing what appears to be the prayer flick going on and off throughout the entire video is very distracting, after a while all you hear is that noise and none of the words you are speaking
Brimstone boots are underrated. Especially from a tribridding pvp perspective. But definitely worth using in any brid/tribrid bossing situation where max str bonus isnt required. Range attack bonus, mage attack bonus, stab attack bonus, mage defence, range defence and melee defence.
the only boss in the game where brimstone boots have any value is like zulrah and maybe muspah if you aren't doing bowfa only lol inferno you'd rather pray bonus or ranged accuracy for tbow/bowfa hits on zuk, and anywhere else you bring multiple styles, you always have melee so camping prims is way more valuable in terms of inventory effectiveness
There’s an issue with bringing up both in a video like this because depending on what you’re doing will decide what’s more important attack bonuses or defense bonuses so putting it all into one video can end up being very contradictory and downright confusing to newer/lower leveled players which is the group this video is made for
Most people spend more on fighter torso than BCP. Dragon Crossbow after blowpipe considering the other 2 items you said where 60 and 100mil respectively while dragon is 1.8 mil. Dragon Crossbow has been great for DS2 , Secrets of North, Night of Theatre
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One of the main bonuses of the dragon crossbow is that you can now use dragon bolts, other than that I agree with the list
my thoughts exactly
Dragon bolts are a game changer too, came here to say the same you did.
most of the list is great but not having a dragon crossbow is absurd. the one thing the dragon cross bow brings is the ranged str you get in bolt usage. which as we all know is massive. dragon crossbow is a must for any low level and for the price is such a huge upgrade over the rune crossbow
LITTERALLY PAUSED THE VIDEO AT THIS POINT AND SAID WTF WENT STRAIGHT TO COMMENT SECTION LOL
Yeah you are right. I overlooked it's ability to fire dragon bolts just because I never use d-bolts and it honestly slipped my mind. Thanks for keeping me honest!
was going to comment this aha
@@runewraith yeah thr gp/hr you can make using the bolts can justify the cost of using them. Only not worth it for slayer imo
@@runewraith yeah, you should reupload the video, you're spreading miss information because of ignorance, dragon bolts are such a valuable tool to use.
Idk about anyone else, but 25m is 100% worth not doing barb assault for multiple hours
lmao you need barb assault for diaries anyway. get good
Or do barb assault for a couple hours and save 25m and spend it on something else?
Depending on where you use it, that extra 56 ranged defense can be a big help
Sounds like skill issue
for a newer acc 25m will be quite a bit. same str bonus with less defence for a few hours doesnt sound too bad
it was worth the 25M for the bandos chestplate not to have to do barbarian assault...
That 25m deff takes longer to make back then the couple hours a torso takes
@@FleezyOG Spend 25m or spend one evening getting a fighter torso 😂😂
BA is so easy. its a free 25m
@@Rhycebell easy if u got friends lol
@@l0lan00b3 you can do it in the ba world really easy, the minigame is not hard at all
Jesus, it doesnt really hit home how quick the osrs economy moves till someone says a year ago sythe was 300m
Re: avernic
Raid items are usually intended to help players complete the content they come from. It's a good, permanent account upgrade that everyone should make at some point, but maybe wait until you're tob ready to make upgrades from tob
I bought the Avernic Defender Hilt when it was right around 40mil. Such lucky timing haha. Same with the Dex prayer scroll - it was only 13m when I got it.
Just those two items would run you well over 100m at current GE prices rn.
Being permanent doesn't make it any better, actually worse.
Do note that for range, level actually increases ur dmg. So good to skip things like archer’s ring imbue, range boots, pegasian boots until ur lvl 99 and have a lot of cash.
Idk why you include imbuing Archer's Ring in this comment. Literally all it takes is 3.Xm for the ring and then some time in NMZ training like you could anywhere else.
This is actually a really great list. I 100% agree and have been avoiding every single one of these items for ages lol, awesome advice for mid game players.
2 changes that id make
1- dragon crossbow is good bc it can shoot higher tier bolts then rune cbow thats really its only saving grace
2- with dt2 coming out the seer and archers ring are getting a str bonus upgrade so worth picking up for l8r
Neitzsnot helm/slayer helm (on task),Brimstone ring, amulet of furry, Obsidian body, verac skirt,d boots, dfs/dragon defender, whip or zam hasta- i am a melee killer. Good dps good defense.
Dragon d hides , book of law , same amulet and same ring but with dcb and diamond dragon bolts (e). I master range . Taking my staff of swamp and some blue mystic robes with some brimstone boots and zamorak god book i m the villain from Harry Potter. 30 m and lvl 80-90 base combat stats and I m spreading fear and terror in the goblins from the swamp. Ty for the upload effort . Good edit.
I've always hated people calling the fighter torso "free". If it takes time to grind it isn't free. Barbarian Assault is one of the least enjoyable mini-games you can do and with a GOOD team it's 3-4 hours of grinding. However if you've not got a team? Hell you could be looking at a 7-8 hour grind.
And you get ZERO xp during that time. I would rather buy a bandos chest and spend that grind doing pretty much anything else.
obsidian plate chest is +1 str bonus and 600k so what i did
@@GamingDualities Aye which makes perfect sense, I don't get why more people don't bring that up rather than bloody fighter torso.
If you are grinding Vorkath for any significant amount of kills, the Bandos chestplate is absolutely worth it. The Fighter Torso is paper thin in that scenario otherwise.
Not really
I never realized what a low upgrade the pegasian boots were. I never looked at the stat upgrade because of the price but what a huge price for such a small upgrade
Kill 400 Vorkath and we can have a healthy discussion on how pegasians are not worth it same as archer's ring.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 yeah after upgrading to expensive gear youre so much more accurate regardless of how arbitrary the bonuses SEEM to be
@@l0lan00b3 There we go. A, man who understands how mechanics work.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 lol I've killed 3k vorkath with d hide boots
@@scrimpted Good job, ironman.
only value in the dragon crossbow is in the use of dragon diamonds and dragon ruby bolts. when including the bolt upgrade, it gives a much higher dps than rune cbow. so if u gonna be bolting anything, dcb is the wave. and i think BP is automatic must have item, and discussion on dragon crossbow is just after BP is acquired. to add to your arsenal.
to add to your arsenal ,nice ahahah
I completely disagree with the DCB, not because of the +4 attack bonus but what I think is often forgotten is that you can also use dragon blots with the DCB which is a strength increase over the RCB prior to TOA it used to be much cheaper but that extra DBS on some of the bosses is extremely worth it. Would I get a blowpipe first? Yes, but considering the upgrade from DCB is 63 mil I think you should definitely get it.
I would love more of these. This one and the newer one provide so much value
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Everyone else is already saying but yeah. Dragon crossbow. I’m a poor player but I can actually get KC at vorkath and phantom muspah because of the Dragon crossbow. Without it you’re not killing them. Diamond and ruby dragon bolts pay for themselves when you kill bosses like that and at my current range level they seem to get me kills faster the BP because of the 100s. Eventually BP would put dps but not currently. And it’s not like a blowpipe is very cheap either with the cost of both darts and zulrah scales.
You can most definitely get kc on those bosses without a Dragon crossbow
The main reason to get a dragon crossbow is to use dragon bolts which have a higher range str bonus than the rune crossbow... its not at all a bad pick up, the armadyl crossbow is barely an upgrade in comparison and is literally 20x the cost
money better spent on chins
@@SymmRTA facts
Now it’s 60x the cost 😂
@@SymmRTA They are not comparable in price. Dragon crossbow allows you to use dragon bolts on bosses like Muspah and Vorkath.
Agree with everything BUT the Dragon Crossbow since having stronger versions of certain bolts like diamond will actually benefit you pvm-wise on the long run like for example Muspah
It's hard to argue against avernic defender since it helps with so many weapons. arclight and DHL are good examples.
for a 40m price hike because of ToA i dont find it worth the upgrade anymore tbh
@@workscs it's worth it even at 90m honestly. If you have max melee stats with a fire cape getting avernic defender gives you +2 max hits at Cerberus or anything with arclight, if you use DHL for vorkath you can use neitz faceguard + avernic to get the best possible dps, it gives +2 max hits and makes it better to use salve amulet than a slayer helm. Max a 64 instead of 62 it's absolutely massive dps increase
@@kylebusc3624 It is a worthwhile upgrade, but that 90m could easily go into other things that will help more. You can get tassets, prims, and a faceguard for 90m. The tassets alone will give you the +2 you would get over the dragon defender. I think the list is more for players who don't already have all of the cheaper upgrades. Heck, even Ferocious Gloves are are more of an upgrade from barrows than the Avernic is from dragon.
avernic is easily the biggest noob trap in the entire game
there is never a reason to justify buying an avernic before you can afford one of a scythe, tbow or shadow to camp their respective raids to rebuild quickly lol
being able to sell back most upgrades to do a raid mega rare rebuild is infinitely more valuable than whatever negligible gain an early avernic gives
you'd barely notice how much time an avernic saves for kph compared to how much time shadow saves, meaning by not buying the avernic, you get the shadow sooner, which means you get to make back the money for the avernic way faster than the other way around
@@kylebusc3624 It's only 1 max hit compred to dragon defender, and not even that always.
The production in these videos are amazing. Liked and subbed
Dont really agree on d crossbow since its pretty cheap and allows you to shoot dragon bolts
I’m so glad I actually did almost all this before even watching this, got my fighter torso and bought only bandos tassets, skipped dragon crossbow and went for blowpipe, then saved for dhcb. I did but archers ring and imbued it, I notice quicker brutal black dragon kills per hour ever since.
Brutals are actually a good place for the archers ring since defense bonus’s from the suffering really don’t apply (due to taking 0 damage from brutal black dragons). definitely a situation where the archers ring is a good choice.
@@runewraithso wait did this guy accidentally find the best use scenario for the archers ring? lol
@@HogSZN I definitely think it’s a good use case for the archers ring! Another other use case may be:
- safe spot ranging black or greater demons
Everything was good expect for Dragon Crossbow take, good video!
I thought for sure my guy was going to explain porters 5 forces, and blue/red ocean. Felt like I just walked into an economics class. Not hating, I actually loved it.
Everywhere people hate on Barb Assault, so i delayed my torso, and done it week ago and i had lots of fun in barb assault. And it didnt even took long(around 2-3h).
I agree with most of the video, but saying that accuracy and defensive bonuses aren't relevant is kinda misleading. A good example for this is the fight caves. It might seem that elite void is better than blessed d'hide since it has a damage bonus, but it's almost never actually worth bringing. The accuracy and defenses you get from blessed d'hide outweigh the damage from elite void massively since it's a situation where tanking is important and you'll be killing a lot of monsters with high defenses. There are a lot of other niche situations like this, like how before torva, inquisitor wasn't worth using in many places where it was bis because bandos could just tank better, etc. Or on the flipside, even before being given a damage boosting set effect, inquisitor was still solidly bis in niche situations where tanking wasn't relevant because the accuracy it provided over bandos made a difference.
And this is doubly true at lower levels. As your defense, attack and strength level increase, they scale completely differently. Attack and defense gear lose a lot of their value at higher levels since the bonuses scale linearly with your level, and you have a better baseline stat without specialized gear as you level up. So their respective stat boosting items become less important over time. While for strength, it's a common rule of thumb that +4 strength on gear will equate to a max hit, but this is only true at higher strength levels. So if you're lower level, you need a lot more strength bonus to give you an additional max hit, and any strength bonus that doesn't give you one is completely useless. So prioritizing max hits can often be a trap for lower level players working with lower tiers of gear.
You are right, but he's got a point: I'd say this video is more or less aimed at end of low to mid game players that might be tempted to sink a huge pile of gp on ONE huge upgrade that would be useless for daily activities. What is the point in sinking 25M in bandos tasset if you are still wearing an amulet of glory ?
As far as I am concerned the scenarios you are refering would be too long to explain since it requires some prior knowledge and could be it's own video (void).
Great content for players that are at that point tho.
@@christo0o Oh yeah 100%, as I said, I agree with the list itself.
Defence isn't really important in fight caves nevause prayer protects you 100% and you can just switch between them
True. However, at low levels, there are almost no items that have a high enough accuracy compared to the strength bonus items to actually go for accuracy instead. Defence items are plentiful and might seem worth bringing over strength bonus items. But the thing is, most low level defence equipment doesn't cover the strength bonus slots like amulets, rings, boots and weapon... so it's always strength first, even at low levels.
@@dutchraider2 There are a couple notable exceptions, but yeah generally you're right, most gear in the game is not scaled in a way where practically you want defense or accuracy gear that often. But it's good to keep the other bonuses in mind because you can always find exceptions where they do matter against certain bosses or even slayer mobs. So while it is correct to say that most items in the game are designed in a way where defence and attack bonuses can generally be ignored, this logic breaks down super fast when applied to every piece of content at every conceivable level, especially when you're making decisions like strength ammy vs power ammy, or obsidian platelegs vs tank legs early on.
I get the Fighter Torso argument of course 25m is a huge save, but the defensive bonuses of the Chestplate are massively underrated. Good luck tanking bosses for multiple kills with paper defences: more time spent eating rather than attacking, supply costs increased, time spent banking increased.
I don't really agree with the dragon cross bow, while it's only a 4 acc bonus, it allows access to dragon bolts which have a significantly higher dps than the other gem tipped variants
Bro, these videos are so informative and you present them so well!!
Please don’t stop making content, I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos!
Thank you glad you enjoy them!
Agreed🔥🔥
I do love your economic outlook on this video
Defence gets no love. I'd rather not use supplies and be invincible than kill something 2 seconds faster 🧐
The thing is that in the end you use more supplies. The enemy takes longer to kill, so they have more opporunities to damage you, so you take more damage. This is why increasing your dps is actually better for resource preservation than defence.
Dragon crossbow fires dragon bolts which is worth the upgrade. It the bofa is well over 100m more the d crossbow so not likely to see people jump from rune to bofa
i disagree with bcp. bcp is a shield of armor at 30m. you can afford to take a few hits and not worry about dying. i mean, high tier bosses and raids will make sure you mess up and tank a few hits and i dont think torso will fit well in that scenario.
also disagree with ring of suffering over archer ring. sure, in bossing, ring of suffering gives a better advantage but when doin slayer or training range, i would much rather choose archers ring imbued over ring of suffering for accuracy bonus.
if you're doing slayer you should always be using rigour and the +4 prayer bonus from suffering is going to be way more worth your time/gp ratio than +8 accuracy which you aren't even going to notice because any non-boss slayer tasks worth doing that you don't barrage, have low defence anyway
Definitely disagree with the dragon crossbow. It’s not too expensive and the ability to fire dragon bolts is huge.
Another thing that this list doesn’t really consider is weight. For armadyl armor this is HUGE. D’hide weights a lot and then you lose about 8-10kg switching to armadyl. While this doesn’t seem significant, during a solo cox raid or Sara godwars fight this would be noticeable.
Decent list; I wish you had sorted it by amount of gp "lost" on using the item. Also some items that probably could have been included. Kodai Wand, Arcane Shield, Elysian Shield,
Those are some great suggestions. Perhaps there will be a sequel to this video in the future…..
I just bought my fang for 46m and its soooooo strong im loving it
I'm glad I bought the avernic before toa released
I have a degree in economics and I have been manipulating the GE for years, this is my cuppa tea
Great vid! Excellent delivery and structure.
Could you share your thoughts on the brimstone ring? I think it's currently going for ~3 mil?
I honestly don’t know a ton of places the brimstone ring is really useful or bis. Hence the 3m price.
I tend to think the DK rings fit better most of the time unless you’re looking to save a switch on a boss which you need more than 1 combat style for. Generally max hits are king and you won’t get max hits with brimstone (usually).
It’s like a fury, decent all around but not the best at anything.
Number 1, I had both sets hehe got lucky at basilik knight and gotten 2 basiilik jaw in one day
Lets never forget that Better gears means less hours spent in game.. I see it has in investiment.. I buy it , i use it .. Save dozens of hours getting 99 or making bank and just sell it back for barely no loss or even profit! This guides only apply to those who dont have any bank yet.
Video is decent though, I disagree with a few but I like how you present your data
I would say that the dragon crossbow is worth. Only because the price difference between that and the rune one is negligible when compared to the difference between the dragon crossbow and the acb. The acb barely increases stats and is only KIND OF worth it for the spec attack with ruby bolts. It's like 30mil more than the dragon crossbow
Bruh
Seers ring 300k
Suffering 16 mil
Light bearer 6 mil
« Seers ring is useless compared to its 2000% priced counter parts »
Huh. Who would have thought??
Its more useless than explorers ring 1 which offers prayer bonus. Nice try though.
So your advice on the rings would be fine if it wasnt for the 2 other rings you mentioned being niche. The lightbearer is only good once you get D. Claws, Dragon dagger is great if it didnt lower your accuracy, and the seers ring imbued giving a +12 to attack is actually quite massive and makes hitting a lot easier and is very affordable unlike the tormented bracelet. The archer's ring imbued is best in slot for range and range doesn't have another option unless you include the brimstone ring. +8 doesn't seem like alot but it actually is.
Nah you're just wrong
@@Shwrecked how so
More specs = more damage than a zerk,archer etc, even dds is effectively 8 specs vs 4, do any boss with double specs is amazing especially in defense drain. Also useful for more xp skilling etc
In fact ring of suffering gets more dps in than most bosses unless boss can be protected fully from prayer which is not that often in highend bosses if u make a mistake
You forgot ACB, Primordial boots, ranger boots, amulet of torture and ring of suffering.
Dragon crossbow is definitely a great upgrade from rune crossbow until you can afford BoFa since it allows you to fire better bolts.
I actually think prims are worth it anything that adds actual melee strength points is a must have for melee combat
archers ring is juicy wdym
Agree with everything but the defender and dragon crossbow.
Love the Econ focus
Whats better dragon xbow or magic shortbow imbued?
Depends on what you are fighting. High defense bosses bring crossbow generally. For low defense mobs the msb is better because of higher attack speeds.
I don’t like leaving negative comments but this video is not good advice. Other than like pegasian boots and armadyl a lot of these items are pretty good. Also you promise it’s worth it to wait for items to stabilize? I bought the tang at like 220m and it’s tanked but I made around 3b at toa because I had a fang, this is terrible advice man.
You had me fucked up on the dragon crossbow .
There are so many bosses that requires a crossbow that can use dragon bolts
Like armadyle boss for example.
Idk, dragon crossbow is decent...
If you're planning to use dragon bolts, witch you can't use eith rune crossbow.
you wanna know the trick? make and alt while your starting your new main, even when your training your making money, i have a fishing cooking alt that just regardless of how much money or time i have i can make a buck off it or at least counteract payments for mats im using on my main if i need. rc, smithing, wc, and flethcing alts are also great to look at, ill prolly upgrade my alt now its 105up in fishing and cooking, gunna make it a blood rune farm now and do some afk money making on my alt now to get levels while turning the alt into a main as well so i can switch on and off. get used to having an alt early as possible, it sounds like alot but so many afk things to do make this super important
funny enough just made a third acc to walk my homie through the game as hes interested, still gaining levels and making bank of my two accs while helping the homie and slowly making a third to hopefully lend out to other homies if they ever wanna play without all the grind lol. but yah i didnt think id be able to run 3 accs at once... well its alot easier than i thought especially just building
I was buying Osmumten's Fang at 50m the week it released and flipped around 20 of them shortly after for about 122m each. Take advantage of the uncertain market on release when you can get good deals off of clueless players.
Fang was like 300m following release😂
@@christianpetty7322 Only for the very few idiots who bought at that price.
So i'm about to hit 92 range and i'm going for 99 slayer range only. Should I switch to blowpipe? I'm getting conflcting information with each page/video I click. i'm using runite bolts and hitting quite high now just very slow. Can someone point me in the right direction? My bank is worth 22m (Don't diss) So i'm a little weary as most of that is just my gear and I have 4m left over and I know it's been heavily nerfed and I know it's quite expensive to run with the scales darts etc.
Any advice would be a great help :)
Blowpipe is an essential weapon in your PvM arsenal however, you stated that your goal is 99 slayer. The blowpipe WILL speed up a lot of slayer tasks (like greater demons, black demons, bloodvelds, vampires, spiritual creatures etc...) however, it does come at a hefty cost. I have a 1.4b bank and I don't use the blowpipe 100% of the time for slayer because the darts and scales get pretty expensive!
The answer to your question depends on whats more important to you: speed to 99 slayer or your cash/bank value. You can still get 99 with a RCB but a lot of the tasks will take quite a bit longer. You could probably get more bang for your buck using a cannon and cannon balls for slayer rather than a blowpipe. I will say if you get into PvM at all in the future the blowpipe is used pretty much everywhere so its a must have weapon eventually!
@@runewraith Thank-you for the quick reply my dude. Yeah sorry I should of elaborated more. I was using D cross and yeah I'm also using a cannon :) I bit the bullet last night and my cheap ass went and got one. The tasks are so so fast now so glad I got it. Only downside I've found is because of the range some of my safe spots I can't use "rapid" and have to use the Longfire so I'm having to bring prayer pots a bit more. But yeah more pricey but fo sure worth it. Thanks again dude have a good day!
Yeah go for the blowpipe if you like wasting 1-2mil on filling it up with sales & darts every week or so. Ideally you should be using dragondarts at 1k+ per dart, as it gives it slightly better stats than the magic shortbow (i) with amethyst arrows. That 4-5mil wasted on a blow pipe, is totally worth it compared the MSB(i), that costs 200k< for the bow imbued, + 1 mil spent on rune or amethyst arrows.
what is the ring at 9:16 that is suggested? I recognise suffering but not the yellow one. when I turn captions on it says: Library.
I cannot understand the word he said even after listening multiple time
It’s called the “Lightbearer” it’s a reward from the Tombs of Amascut and doubles your special attack regeneration rate! Apologies for slurring my speech there 😄
I'm still confused on the magic formula, but cannot fathom how lightbearer is a better replacement than seers ring. I dont know of any magic attack that uses a special and since the lightbearer gives only special recharge passive effect it seems like it isnt a good replacement
It’s all situational. In reality because of the magic formula you only use magic on enemies who have no magic defense otherwise range/melee become the better options. If we only kill enemies that have no magic defense then magical accuracy really isn’t necessary and magic damage becomes critical. Seers ring only provides accuracy so one of it’s only uses is during barraging slayer tasks however if you wear the lightbearer you get double spec regen so the SGS special becomes way more effective for saving prayer and health. I’d take double the SGS specs over +8 magical accuracy any day. Also there are the nightmare staffs/orbs which have specs that benefit from the lightbearer as well.
In most instances I probably wouldn’t wear the lightbearer with my mage gear but would wear something like the suffering for its defense bonuses. Hopefully this helps to clear some things up!
@RuneWraith yes sir, I didn't even consider using a spec weapon haha. Thank you
I would love if you made a video similar to this but the opposite, expensive items/upgrades that are cost beneficial, for example rigour.
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@@runewraith legend
what about the items that are doubled when imbued? Archer's?
I almost never use my archers ring. I’ve found that the lightbearer or ring of suffering are what I bring in about 95% of my PvM encounters.
That being said I use my berserker ring imbued all the time as well!
Disagree with bcp and dcb. In the time it takes you to get a torso you could easily make 10-15M cash which is half of the cost of a bcp already and on top of that its way tankier and gives prayer. Dcb has been mentioned enough :D
i kinda agree. torso is good mid game content which will take u to end game but eventually you will feel the need to upgrade it for raids or bossing.
I don't agree with the dragon crossbow as the dragon crossbow has access to the dragon bolts that the rune dose not that is where it's getting the extra damage and utility
i may be biased because mage is my favorite combat style but eternals and seers ring are so cheap you might aswell grab them because theyre best in slot. but for newer players theyre waaay lower on the priority list
Agreed here. They do have some niche uses and are dirt cheap for BIS so might as well grab them!
Hard disagree. Technically, the Brimstone ring is the best magic dps ring in the game as it has a chance to ignore the target's magic defense which is significantly more helpful than +4 magic bonus. In the same way, using the Boots of Brimstone for the added defense bonuses or the Devout Boots for prayer bonus are a lot more helpful in *most* situations where you are using magic. The only time I think the Eternal Boots matter is when you're using the Tumeken's Shadow to turn their +8 boost into a +24 or +32 magic bonus against a target that is normally magic resistant.
brimstone is way better
So what would you use instead of seers ring and archers ring?
Depending on the content the ring of suffering or the lightbearer.
@@runewraith for slayer?
Brimstone ring isn’t bad either
Brimstone replaces both of those
Don't tell me what to do.
Don't agree with any 😅 If you can afford them might aswell use em
Well duh this isn't aimed at people who have billions of gp but rather those who have a limited budget
avernic being 64m for a few bogus stats while dragon hunter cbow is 64m is just absurd…like u want candy for 64m or u want a chef to cook for u for 64m???
I wonder if a skill could be implemented to offhand the magic offence/defence and the scaling stuff.
we gonna ignore the defense bonuses and such that ARma offer over blessed D'hide and the defense bonuses of bandos over torso?
Great point but for the most part yeah. There are a few scenarios where defense does matter however in OSRS the general consensus is: “monsters do 0 DPS to you when they are dead so kill them as fast as possible” since defense doesn’t really align with this goal it isn’t the top priority.
How are you not gonna have prims on here? They are literally useless without avernic. They dont give a dps boost without the other
Dragon crossbow isnt worth ? thats not very maths of you
I agree with everything but the dcbow and seer's ring
how about the d boots and its upgrade?
Haha wild to see fang stable for months at 100m lmao
where is the part two, loved
Literally have a friend stop playing cause he bragged about buying the gang when it was like 200m and no butt hurt that it’s only 60. (P.s he bought bonds to supply his gold lmao)
Oof
@@Rimmy_ told him to suck it up and actually play to make money
Great vid.
I sold my bandos back and am using dharoks, awsome stats and no BA ^ ^
Why can’t we apply the Pegasian boot logic to prims tho?
You certainly can. Prims definitely aren’t worth the upgrade imo either. I just felt weird putting all 3 BIS boots in this video which is why I didn’t include them. In retrospective I should have replaced the dragon crossbow with prims in this video
title of the video should have been i am broke and jealous of good gear
Does anyone know if santa hats, halloween masks, party hats ect will be dropped every holiday? Or was it a once off? OSRS
They are dropped annually so they are no longer rares in OSRS.
@@runewraith damn for real? I baught mass, better sell them before the holidays then when they might double, also do you know this for definite? Only started playing again, maybe they might release something different from the 0Gz
Proceeds to compare strength bonus with defence bonus instead of attack bonus.
Good video but constantly hearing what appears to be the prayer flick going on and off throughout the entire video is very distracting, after a while all you hear is that noise and none of the words you are speaking
I liked the background
Pretty sure you're hearing his cotton mouth.
Brimstone boots are underrated. Especially from a tribridding pvp perspective. But definitely worth using in any brid/tribrid bossing situation where max str bonus isnt required. Range attack bonus, mage attack bonus, stab attack bonus, mage defence, range defence and melee defence.
the only boss in the game where brimstone boots have any value is like zulrah and maybe muspah if you aren't doing bowfa only lol
inferno you'd rather pray bonus or ranged accuracy for tbow/bowfa hits on zuk, and anywhere else you bring multiple styles, you always have melee so camping prims is way more valuable in terms of inventory effectiveness
I actually think that Seer's ring is dirt cheap and essential imbued
That’s interesting and Im curious to know your perspective on this. Where do you commonly use the seers ring (I)?
@@runewraith Barraging slayer tasks.
@@RsChrisG ring of wealth is better so it picks up the GP for you
@@wentoneisendon6502 you pick up items anyways on barraging tasks anyways so you dont need a ring of wealth
@@RsChrisG Explorer's Ring 4 is bis for barraging tasks because of the prayer bonus and ability to alc while on ancient spellbook
Minus BCP and avernic, you could delete everything else on this list from the game and I would be fine with it.
my boy talking about just attack bonuses but not the defense bonuses lol
There’s an issue with bringing up both in a video like this because depending on what you’re doing will decide what’s more important attack bonuses or defense bonuses so putting it all into one video can end up being very contradictory and downright confusing to newer/lower leveled players which is the group this video is made for
Eternal boots are worth it, it’s dirt cheap so why woud ‘t you buy
This was | a pretty good video
Most people spend more on fighter torso than BCP.
Dragon Crossbow after blowpipe considering the other 2 items you said where 60 and 100mil respectively while dragon is 1.8 mil. Dragon Crossbow has been great for DS2 , Secrets of North, Night of Theatre
Thank you for saving me gold and time
How do I short a RuneScape item on the GE?
I really wish I could have shorted some items like the d-pick, scythe, and craws bow
Most raid items are a waste and their prices remind me of overpriced technology stocks.
Deppends jusiticar is way better as defence Like as a gwd Tank or at Rune drags its bis for These Things as an atker its different again
Bcp is ez to get... and the time spend at ba you could get a bcp drop