Can you do a VO tutorial video? Step by step to make a simple demo or one final product. 1, pick/place mic/setup room 2: warm up 3:open audacity and set theses settings 4: record your copy and watch for this/that/etc 5: stop recording and go into audacity and change these settings, change the db to industry standards (stress industries standards and practices) 6: export rules 7: tips and tricks. Explain why for every step along the way. Insider stuff and standard practices are unparallelled information for amateurs. I would love to see a series of this kind of stuff for you. I already take your advise on gear very seriously but a tutorial done by you and your style would be so valuable to us because of your knowledge and perfect presentation.
+Adam C. Boyd thanks Adam! What I'd love to do is a one-day workshop to cover all of this. For now, my dialogue post processing course is as close as I have gotten. But I'll try to find a way to make that happen. Thanks again!
These vids are fantastic, don't stop making them. It's so refreshing to see a review/comparison with zero brand biased, great sound, proper lighting and comprehensible dialogue. Not that I don't like "YO dis mic is like AMAZING cuz it's got this shiny thing and says Shnenhisinger on da side..." videos, I just prefer the level of professionalism displayed in yours. Well done.
Thanks for this review. I think what I enjoy the most is the fact that you show several options that cover different price points. I was sure you were going to throw the AT4053b in there, but was really happy to see you talk about the less expensive option, especially as your recommendation was the Røde NT5, which I have been considering. Thanks again Curtis and please keep the reviews coming.
We have several updates, but since there are so many microphones, I had to break it out into several videos: VO Mics ua-cam.com/video/YyjzH_x3_dI/v-deo.html Podcast and streaming mics: ua-cam.com/video/RX3mgP09St8/v-deo.html Pro lavalier mics: ua-cam.com/video/tXb7Ov-S6dc/v-deo.html Boom mics: ua-cam.com/video/q7rfwCFjBDg/v-deo.html
Hey Curtis, few questions because I feel you are one of the best UA-camr's that actually get into detail. 1) What mic and recorder do you use when filming your UA-cam videos because you sound extremely clear (almost like an announcer). 2) What audio program do you use for audio, I have a huge issue with hearing me inhale and I have to do retakes lol. 3) What is the best distance to sit from a mic? Thank you Curtis so mic for your videos
Hi Dwayne, 1) I have a ton of microphones so it changes quite often, but my favorite pro level setup is a Sennheiser MKH 8050 and a Sound Devices 633. 2) for processing audio, I use Adobe Audition. Note, however, that I've been trying to improve my audio for well over 10 years and have made a lot of mistakes and still have a ways to go. What I've found is that creating great recordings is 90% skill, 10% gear. I have several courses over at School.LearnLightAndSound.com on how to record and post process sound if you're interested. Best wishes!
Thanks! I think when those mics get to that age, and they've been used to hammer in nails on stage that are coming out, they sound even better. :) They take on a smoky, sultry sound.
Yes I'm using it a lot. Great for indoor use! The sound quality is also a lot better. When I do screencasts however, I still use the NTG-2 as I sometimes move away from the mic a little bit while explaining things with my arms (even though nobody sees that :D)
LOVE your videos. This is all so new to me but I'm really enjoying the range that you're covering. Let's me know there's plenty of room to grow and helps me feel more confident in buying intro level gear when money is tight.
I can't understand who downvotes these videos. Thank you Curtis for great content that comes straight to the point without all of the bombastic self-aggrandisement of other channels.
These video with multiple devices with your opinion after long term use are so appreciated and useful. And it is great that you are clear on why you like the particular products!
Thanks very much Chris. Your presentation is excellent and you have a natural air of assuredness which gives me confidence in your advice. If I can make one suggestion....would it be possible to caption each item to make clear the make and model? Thanks
Hey Curtis. I've stumbled across your videos off and on for the last year. You almost always seem to have a video for what I'm looking for. Finally subscribed today. This video was excellent. I studied audio engineering in college but never did a lot of work with lav mics so great to hear someone who's in the industry share which ones they use and why. I'm also glad you didn't come on here and talk about how much you love your $1000k+ gear. Thanks for what you do :)
+Curtis Judd I do like the fact that the stuff you review is more in my price range though. (Some of the recorders you've looked at are on the higher end though.)
Very nice. On your recommendation, I bought and always use the Aputure A.lav mic on all my videos. I love it. Thanks for the recommendation months ago. :-)
Thank you Curtis. I know that this is an older video but I'm on a catch up!! One thing with all mics, let alone lavalier is the problem of self noise and how it's advertised with each microphone. The Aputure, as you say is low noise and yet if you believe the figures on the box, it should be higher noise than others which show a better performance on the box, but unfortunately don't when you use them!! The figures don't seem to match real life performance, so reviews like this are extremely useful. Another low noise one seems to be the Boya m1 which boasts >75dB for noise, yet the Aputure states >65dB. If only we could get these figures onto an even playing field. There is currently some great work going on in the field of headphone measurements in order to get more comparable FR graphs and what constitutes 'flat' and maybe we could use a similar idea one day with microphones in order to help us more informatively with our choices.
Hi Ian, thanks, and I agree! The way these things generally work, it seems, is that the industry changes when the end-users and independent engineers call for sanity. We could definitely use some of that in the microphone spec world.
Hello Curtis: The Rode Pro Mic in my opinion is the best one for out doors and just does a fantastic job for the price the only inconvenience is installing the battery but not a problem and I was looking for a good mic to use indoors and you answered that well in this video.
Great review! I too use a various array of Microphones some not in the purpose they were meant for. As a sound engineer many years ago I watched others use techniques to get the most. Like creating boundariy microphones for a certain sound or use a Calrec soundfield mics. I use Sony, short Shotguns and both Sennheiser and Marantz long rifle mics, they have their own sound. Also I use a Neumann TLM 102 for certain room sounds. I would not recommend it if you haven’t got the budget!
I just bought the AT4053b per your video reviews. I intend to use it inside, for interviews and videos of myself for my channel. This, will feed into the new Zoom F4, and I am really excited! Thanks again so much for your expert help on this topic!
Just did a shoot with the new mic! It was an advice video for brides, on planning the wedding day. WOW, recording with the Zoom F4, I can see how this really make a nice, clean source! I was able to boom the mic just a few inches (maybe 10") away.. and it sounds great. However, I still think I need to learn more about tweaking the EQ sliders in FCP, to richen up my voice.
Love this type of video. This and your videos about why Pros use the more expensive gear are super helpful and I feel like no one else covers gear this way. Keep 'em coming! (and agree with previous posters, a video like this on field recorders would be great)
ALTHOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN SOME VIDEO, I MISSED YOUR MENTIONING A MIC FOR RECORDING MUSIC FROM INDIVIDUAL INSTRUMENTS FOR OVERDUBBING BY BEGINNERS.. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ? YOU ARE THE BEST " EXPLAINER " ON UA-cam.
Hi Granddaddy, the RODE NT5 is a decent choice for recording instruments: geni.us/WMXP Here's a comparison of it vs. several other mics - though in this case we used it for dialogue recording. The NT5 was originally designed for recording instruments: ua-cam.com/video/q-b_1gOYOEQ/v-deo.html
In the upcoming year I'll need to make a couple outdoor/in a coffee shop interviews for school, what type of mic would you recommend if I want both our voices on the audio? It doesn't need to be super expensive since its not being reviewed for the audio quality but id rather have a decent one. Keep up the great work, I may not watch all the videos you make but I'm sure I'll be able to use them as reference later. Thanks!
Hi Alfred. Hmm. It might make sense to use something like a Zoom H1 where you have stereo mics, each pointing opposite the other. You'll need to sit in pretty close to the recorder to manage the ambient sound since coffee shops have a tendency to have a lot of ambient sound and reflective surfaces. Good luck!
Hi JT, thanks. This is an old video from 2016 before DEITY Microphones was in business. :) Here's a newer microphone meta-review I posted just a couple of weeks ago: ua-cam.com/video/q7rfwCFjBDg/v-deo.html
i also have a question about mic placement : the physics says we have to place the mic as close to the source as possible due the fact that sound amplitude diminishes with the square of the distance( a $20 mic at 5 inches will sound better than a $1000 mic at 3 feet) . so why dont we use head boom that brings the mic 1-2 inches from the mouth(like www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PMEMS10-Omni-Directional-Microphone-System/dp/B003D2YRLA) rather than the typical lav placement on the chest or shotgun overhead on a boom stand that are 5-10 inches away from the mouth?
That's a great question and yes, placing a mic on the cheek sounds more natural than placing the mic on a person's chest which tends to sound boomier and more resonant, not very natural. The main reason is that for dramatic narratives, having a mic in the shot just isn't desired. And some directors don't like them showing even in documentaries and interviews. My favorite place to hide lavalier mics is at the top of the forehead in the hair, in a hat, or on eyeglasses. It sounds much better and more natural and follows when the talent turns their head. But it takes longer to set up so it is a tradeoff.
@@curtisjudd I really have to thank your professionalism because for those who are starting out like me (I will teach live), yours classes are very clear, explain well and the quality is great. I'm going to the United States to buy equipment and now I know which ones to buy for my classes thanks to their teachings. Boya NTG4 - Lapel Audio Technica - Sony AX 100 4K Camcorder. Thank you.
I recently bought a Fender Hotrod Deluxe amp and of course the idea of an audio interface and a condenser mic came. However, I did try buying a Samson Q2U USB microphone plugged into a Novation Audiohub and I'm happily impressed with the recording quality
Curtis, thank you so much for doing this video (and all the others)! I have a few questions if I may. 1. What are your thoughts on the DPA 4018? Have you used one? How would you compare the 4018 with the AT 4053b? If you hadn't used either, which one would you be drawn to on paper specs alone? If you have used the 4018 (or are very familiar with it) when would you 'not' use it over the 4053b or vice versa? 2. If you were capturing dialogue for film, which microphones would you use for exterior and interior (accounting for both minimal and substantial humidity) if the rental house didn't have any Schoeps or you couldn't afford to buy a couple that would cover both INT and EXT scenarios? (If you could do a video that covers mics for film scenarios comparing highest end with prosumer level that would be 'really' interesting!) 3. I'm looking at the F8 as a stepping stone to the Sound devices 633. You mentioned in your review on the F8 that the downside was the lack of analogue condenser for sound going in and that for sudden loud noises you'd have problems. Couldn't that be solved if you split the audio to two channels and lowered the levels on the second channel to account for unexpected loudness? If you set up an unused channel in this way wouldn't that security blanket diminish the lack of analogue condenser? 4. If you do use a F8 on a film shoot and you were fairly skilled at mixing audio in post, couldn't the F8 deliver good enough sound so that what's missing from the Sound Devices 633 becomes somewhat irrelevant after you're done in post? (assuming time and speed isn't a major factor) 5. What are you thoughts on Lectrosonics in general and the SSM/E01 specifically? If money wasn't an issue, would anyone choose any other transmitter over the E01? Thanks for any time you have to answer these questions!
Hi Curtis, thanks for all your great reviews. I haven't seen them all, but the ones I've seen have no waiste. There's a kind of mic you haven't taken into consideration: the headset lavaliers. I do quite a bit of conferences and I'm sick and tired of holding my SM58 in my hand. I've hear about a Samson Stage XPD1 which comes with a usb dongle to conect it to the computer. I also use for conferencing and podcasting a RME Babyface Pro (superb audio interface!) and I'd like to know if this headset could be easily routed to the Babyface. Thanks once again!
Yes, I like ear worn microphones a lot in terms of sound response/quality. They sound much, much better than lavaliers worn on other parts of the body (usually the chest area). Unfortunately my work usually requires hidden microphones which is the only reason I do not own any. That being said, they're a great choice for live presenting. The Samson XPD1 is more of a low-cost option for those without an audio interface so I agree, not the best choice when you're routing through an audio interface. Countryman's E6 is pricey but very good in terms of quality and comes in versions with just about every connector you might need. It might be tricky to find one which would work both for wireless on-stage use (which will have a mini connector for the various wireless systems) vs an audio interface (where you have full-size XLR connectors.
Indeed the Countryman E6 is expensive, are there any alternatives that could fit my need? I use a RME Babyface as an audio interface. A wireless connection would be the ideal, but a wired one could be acceptable. Thanks for your help and advices Curtis.
Hi Ernesto, I haven't personally used any other ear-worn mics so I don't have any recommendations from first-hand experience. But in terms of brands to consider, I would look at Audio Technica for something with a lower price than the Countryman. Other brands which will also be expensive include DPA, Sennheiser, Sony, and Shure. I think the question may come down to how sick of holding an SM58 you are: Are you willing to spend $600 to avoid holding a mic? How about $400? If you also need wireless, that will add to the cost and potential interference issues as well. Here is a wired ear-worn mic from Audio Technica which you could feed into your RME interface via its XLR input: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/649067-REG/Audio_Technica_BP892_BP892_MicroSet_Subminiature.html/BI/19904/KBID/12941/kw/AUBP892/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xAUBP892 Best wishes!
Your prior help was great and you did make a suggestion. Your reviews and help lead me to the Azden 250 and the Rode NTG series (XLR). Based on the following repeat, will you again make a recommendation. Audio quality is major concern: I'm virtually locked in to camera mount. Neither boom nor wireless is practical and seldom have access to Sound Panel. a minimum of 'Tail' is desired. Shooting variety shows with singers, comics, loud music, usually off to sides. Tripod mount from 15 - 60' back. Audience mostly from behind or around cam (Canon xa 30). Preferred features: battery + phantom, battery light, gain control, frequency control. Have $400 budget. Thank you for your professional videos. It is so annoying listing to clowns that say little and don't seem to have a planned direction on their reviews. I am a retired, high end, classroom instructor/trainer so I appreciate you and will tell my friends.
Hi Vince, I'm stumped in terms of recommendations given the requirements. Cardioid mics do not have a tail on the rear. The RODE NT3 can be powered via an internal 9V battery but it does not have a gain or frequency control. To get those, you'd probably need to add a mixer. But have a look at the NT3 and let me know if that's heading down the right path. Best wishes!
I found this type of video very helpful, thanks. Another thing is that in all the comparisons I've heard I prefer the sound of the SM57 to the SM58 for voice, even though it's the same capsule and marketed as an instrument mic. You do need a windscreen or pop filter for the SM57, though. I haven't been able to do a comparison myself yet, but it might be something to keep in mind.
Thanks William, will do. In fact, we did this piece on shotgun microphones which are typically used outdoors: ua-cam.com/video/veD8BVXV3Ls/v-deo.html Best wishes
Curtis, I need a better shotgun mic and I'm struggling between the Rode NTG2 and NTG4+... for interviews (overhead) and outdoor-shootings. Your advice is very welcome!
Hi Rivius, since I shot this, I reviewed the Deity S-Mic 2 which is a competitor to the NTG4+, but sounds quite a lot better. It doesn't have a self-powering option but worth considering is your camera or audio recorder has phantom power: ua-cam.com/video/x4tPO0G8b2Y/v-deo.html If the mic must be self-powered, and as strange as it sounds, I prefer the sound of the NTG2 to the NTG4+. However, the NTG2 needs a preamp with a lot of clean gain to sound nice so keep that in mind. Best wishes and happy recording! 🎤
Hi Curtis. I really like your videos. Learned so much. I have just ordered a6300 and discovered sony makes bluetooth wireless microphone : Sony ECM-W1M, which apparently can hold external mic. It would be great to see test with Giant squid or similar lapel mic for interview, because receiver has audio out for monitoring, but still records audio trough hot shoe. Very cheap (around 140$) alternative for monitoring audio while recording for sony a6300 which lacks audio out. Thnx!
Hi Curtis The NT3 & NT4+ both look the closest and I like the conversion to 3.5mm jack for other cameras. Right now I am leaning toward the 4+ . What do you think?
As usual, nice video, good content. Just for reference I am a production sound mixer and use a Sennheiser MKH 8050 hyper cardioid for interiors and an 8060 shotgun for exteriors. Both are small, lightweight great sounding and are mid priced for pro work compared to the Schoeps mics of the world. I like your recommendation of the AT 4053b mic for interiors, looks like a deal particularly with interchangeable capsules. I own many AT mics for various reasons but mainly because they are all nice sounding for the money.
Hey thanks +RallenMan, good to get input from a production mixer! I've had the 8050 on my "to try" list for a while so good to hear some input on that. I'm curious why you chose the 8050 over the MKH50? And the same for the 8060 over the 416? Thanks!
+Curtis Judd The MKH 50 and 416 are classic mics designed 30 years ago. Even so they are still used by pro mixers around the world because they perform well and sound great. I wanted more modern and lighter mics so my research pointed me to the 8050, 8040, and 8060. I have to admit not many mixers use these mics but in tests they do very well and are reasonably priced. The current favorites that many mixers are using today other than Schoeps are DPA 4017b shotgun and 4018 hyper cardioid. I tried them both and they are truly state of the art mics. As light as the 8060 is, the 4017b is about half the weight which is amazing. The 416 is still highly regarded as a serious tool that every mixer should own although I think of it more as an indestructible ENG mic. I don't have one but I do own its big brother the 816, now there is a piece of pipe work, but it is not used much anymore by anyone. Too long, too heavy.
+RallenMan thanks! I stopped by the DPA booth at NAB this year and saw the 4017b and 4018, and would love to give them a try. The few sample clips I have heard sounded rather bright, perhaps too bright, but nothing substitutes trying for oneself. And of course some voices do better with different mics.
+Curtis Judd Interesting, but not my experience, I thought the DPAs sounded very neutral and flat, but that was in comparison to my 8060. A mixer friend of mine who uses all DPA including lavs tried my 8060 and bought one because he said it had "punch" that the 4017b lacks. As you said it depends on voices and location. One thing I have noticed is many mixers use the 4017b on interiors where I have always used a hyper. They tell me the 4017b does better in slightly reverberant spaces than typical shotguns. As you may know shotguns don't work well where reverb reflections from walls ceiling and floor hit the interference tube and cancels out the the directionality of the mic. That is why we use hyper cardioid mics in those locations.
Thanks, makes sense and definitely on my list. Yes, I've definitely experienced the phase issues that come with shotgun mics in reverberant spaces or when the actor is off axis just enough that a fair bit of the sound enters through the interference tube slots. Not a great sound.
I recall in your review of the Azden SGM-250 you said that mic was actually quieter than the NTG-2 at a similar price point. Why did the Rode win out? I do really like this style of video, so many channels (yours included) make very good reviews of a wide range of products but I always think learning what they actually use gives a much better impression of quality and usability. Another great video! I would like to see a similar one on recorders.
Thanks Bryce, good question. For me, it is how it sounds. Side by side, the NTG2 sounds a fair bit warmer with a little more low-end response and without as much mid-range harshness. With the Azden, I can EQ the clips in post and make them sound great, but if I can avoid that extra work, that's better for me. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks so much Curtis, this was great. You have such a big library of reviews that it is nice to have these as a reference. Excellent job, especially including the links to your individual product reviews with the thumbnail videos throughout. Thanks!
Very cool. I appreciate these "long term" tests. They give a higher and deeper perspective when choosing among several products. I hope you'll do more of these. Question/ comment - Curious why you didn't have the Sennheiser G3 (or G2) lav mic review in here. I thought that was sort of the gold standard for a lav mic.
You're a great teacher, Curtis. I have one question. So, I understand your lesson regarding the cardioid's being better for indoor sound to combat reverb, but how do you negotiate between a super cardioid shotgun vs. a lavalier?
Hi Amanda, thanks! My thinking, generally, is to use a lavalier when I must, but use a shotgun all the rest of the time. A shotgun microphone almost always sounds more natural to me. Cases where a lavalier is the only option for me: When I cannot practically boom because I'm operating camera, or there are several talent and they're both moving (relatively far apart from each other), etc. I hope that makes sense and thanks for the question!
Hi Curtis any chance you are in the market for an even more sensitive mic for very long distance pickup ? Ie something like the Rode NT8 or Audio Technica BP4071 AT4071a / L models ? I'd love to see you reviewing something like this and the difference this kind of mic has over a shorter alternative.
I'll record on a noisy convention floor for Computex soon. Was going to buy the Rode VideoMic Pro to use with my Zoom H4N but perhaps the NTG-2 would be better to isolate dialog? Can't use a boom or lav. Help! And thanks so much for your excellent content, super helpful!
About a year ago I was listening to shotgun comparisons on youtube--can't remember who did it--but among the microphones was the AT 4053b--and I fell in love with the sound. I thought the sound was the equal of the Sennheiser mkh-416---and less expensive. An amazing microphone.
Yes, still one of my favorites! The 416 still has more "reach" due to its more focused polar pattern so generally a better option for outdoor use and when you have to position the mic a little farther away. But the sound of the AT is really nice.
Thank you for sharing this ! Which pair of small diaphram condenser do you recommand for recording quiet ambiances, like birds, room tones, sound of nature in general (for less than 800$ the pair) ? Se electronic se8 ? Lewitt lct 040 ? rode nt 55 ?
Hi David. I haven't used any of the microphones you specifically listed, though I have used the RODE NT5 which I believe shares the same capsules as the NT55. My sense is that any of those could do the job and the important thing will be to invest in a good windshield for when you work outdoors. Best wishes!
Great video, really enjoyed the short per category resume. Thanks again for all your videos, really enjoy your presentation. Would love to see, if in time, you manage to get a hold of a Audio-Technica AT875R and Audix SCX1-HC to see how you like them compared to what you have tested and prefer.
Thanks Curtis! Nicely done as always. These comparisons are a great help imo... For podcasting I use the Heil PR40 which sits right there with the SM7B and RE20. Mic preamps can make or break the audio quality as you know. When I first started I purchased a Focusrite 2i2. I quickly got rid of it. Now I am running a MOTU 1248. Maybe more than most people need or want especially at $1500 but the preamps are clean with tons of gain. They also make a smaller version now called the MOTU UltraLite. It's still not cheap at $649 but you won't be disappointed... :-) Cheers, Greg
Thanks Greg! I completely agree, quality preamps are critical for dynamic mics. Motu has been making some great, if pricey interfaces for quite a while now. Would love to try one out some day.
I didn't have any trouble with the new VideoMic Pro, but others have said they had trouble with it. If you take the foam cover off and learn how it works, I think it is pretty straightforward.
Thanks, really great and useful insight. I would love to hear what you have to say about the Zoom H6. I am seriously considering it for all of its uses and how much better it is than the previous Zooms which I have used very successfully on several productions. I just listened to a podcast where they were using the Zoom h6 with the Rode NT1-A and it really sounded great, very rich and warm. Not sure how much of that was the room they were in, but it sounded really good to me, and it's a bit cheaper than the Lectro Voice.
Curtis i'm on your sound production course and its very good i'm learning a lot. in terms of dynamic range and pre amp quality What is the better option out or the Tascam 60d mark 2 or the zoom h5 to go with the rode ntg2?
Hi Jermaine, those two are about the same so in that case it is really a matter of preference on other factors. The H5 has longer battery life but requires a little more work in the menu to get things set up. The Tascam has more physical buttons and switches making setup quick and easy but the battery life is not quite as strong. The Tascam can be powered by a USB battery while the H5 cannot. In terms of audio quality, they're virtually identical in my experience.
I hope that you will someday do a video on best carioid unidirectional lavalier mics suitable for use while videoing on phones and cameras in noisy city or public park areas. The carioid unidirectional lav mics are said to cut back 50% on side noise, noise above from planes/helicopters and cut back even more on noise behind the speaker. Also maybe you could include those omnidirectional lav mics that pick up the least background noise.
Hi, I have not been happy with the cardioid lavalier microphones I have tested to date. They generally sound very thin and are difficult to position for optimal pickup and generally don't work well if hidden under clothes. I find myself preferring ear worn microphones in most cases where maximum noise rejection is required. That said, if you need a cardioid lavalier, I'd probably opt for the Countryman B2D or DPA 4080. Countryman B2D: bhpho.to/2B6xSCb DPA 4080: bhpho.to/2i0ooEF
Great round up and review. Keep making these. Everyone should do these because it's way more useful. Curious to hear you thoughts on the Sennheiser microphones k6 power and me66 mic and that whole system. Thanks!
Great channel!!! Just some advice if you don't mind. Have a GH4 and will be doing a combo of narrative and documentary filming, what do you think would be a good audio setup to start out with. Just a bit confused as to whether to record externally or to go directly into the camera. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again
Hi Jamie, if you will be shooting solo, the Deity D3 Pro is worth a look: ua-cam.com/video/W9Sde3ey2kc/v-deo.html If you’ll have someone to handle the sound, a separate recorder can generally produce higher quality. We cover a bunch of them here: ua-cam.com/video/hqgCZCEq0_8/v-deo.html
@@curtisjudd Hey Curtis thanks for the reply and advice. I have access to a Tascam DR40, with that in mind, would you go directly into the camera with, say, the Diety mic or do you suggest going into the camera via the tascam? Thanks
@@johncheatdom9409 The DR-40 doesn't have the cleanest preamps so taking the D3 pro directly to camera would *probably* get you better results, depending on the camera. Note that getting the mic close to the sound source is the #1 way to improve sound. So rather than mounting it on camera when you're doing an interview, for example, boom the mic above the talent so that it is about 12 - 18 inches from their mouth and then use an extension to run it to the camera. Best wishes!
The GH4 preamps are not any worse than the DR40 in my experience so going straight to camera would simplify the overall setup without sacrificing audio quality.
Curtis Great Review.. and I wish I could take your online course, which is exactly what I need... but I use FCPX. Can you make a video on optimizing sound for dialogue using FCPX? Capture to PP or just PP using FCPs native effects (compressor, limiter, etc.?) Thank you! BTW, your channel is the best no non-sense educational and review channel in this area. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. :)
+Real World Endo thanks! I use FCPX too, but edit my audio in Audition since it has a much fuller feature set. I usually avoid processing audio in NLEs because you don't get enough visibility of the waveforms and cannot apply effects except as real-time effects to a track. The problem with that is you cannot tell very well how to set the effects such as threshold on a compressor - there's no dB scale to see where to set that threshold. You bring up a good question though. Perhaps I need to demonstrate why processing audio in a video editing app (NLE) is so difficult. Thanks for the idea!
+Curtis Judd Thanks Cutis. Keep in mind, however, that the majority of FCPX users doing talking heads are not editing on an NLE for super duper professional sound, but rather sound that will get their point across without being too amateurish. Let's say that talking head videos are a different sound scale than an audiophile's music track. I think for those editing on an NLE the goal is practical advice to get the most out of what's already there without round-tripping to another software. The goal is efficiency in that case, not the maximum audio quality. Thanks!
Curtis, thanks for this update! Quick, esoteric question for you: any idea how the smartlav+ does with rain or sweat? I'm trying to improve audio for some outdoor adventure videos. Thanks!
Should add I'm trying to optimize water and sweat resistance, mobility of mic-ed subject, weight of mic/receiver, and cost, with that priority order. Appreciate any insight or suggestions.
Hi Es, Countryman makes a lavalier microphone that is designed to get wet which you may want to consider: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/294615-REG/Countryman_MEMWF05BSR_EMW_Omnidirectional_Lavalier_Microphone.html/BI/19904/KBID/12941/kw/COMEMWFBSR/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xCOMEMWFBSR I haven't subjected my smartLav+ to a lot of sweat or water but I can say that most mics do not do well once they get wet. So if you KNOW it is going to get wet and you cannot afford to risk it, I'd take a serious look at the Countryman.
What do you think of using a matched pair of the nt5s with a zoom f3 for ambient field recording? I'm trying to get the lowest NOiSE possible on a budget.
The Rode NT1a's a good podcasting/voiceover mic for lower budgets, too. Picked one up a few years ago, and it's served me very well considering the cost. That being said, I usually still end up just booming a Sennheiser K6/ME66 overhead and using that instead.
+John Aldred thanks John, I agree. The NT1a was the first XLR mic I bought and it is a fine option. Being a little more sensitive than dynamic mics, one might need to be a bit more careful about how the room sounds and how much it reflects, but yes, a great mic for VO.
Hi Curtis, just stumbled onto your channel and you have a wealth of resources! Thank you for sharing! Just wondering on this: in a controlled shoot, would you elect to use a lav system or go with a shotgun/boom scenario? I'm debating a G3 or Sony UWD system over a proper shotgun (Sein. 413). Looking for the most versatile situation... Cheers from Dubai, Chris :)
Hi Chris, When I have the option, I record with both a boom and lav. In those situations, I almost always end up using just the boom recording because it sounds much better. Lavs are tricky: They often pick up the sound of clothing or hair brushing across them, even when expertly hidden. If you're using wireless, there's another league of challenges altogether. If versatility is your top priority, a lav may fit the bill, but be ready to do retakes when you get unwanted noise.
very helpful, but you separate the mic in categories ( over camera, lav, shotgun on mic stand,voice over) without letting us understand how they rank across categories so do you have a 3 or 4 increasing price setup (under $300) recommendations for very cheap external sound recording in a vlogging indoor talking head situation (including any type of mic type/setup ,recording on a phone possible)
Thanks for the feedback. I've included an array here but I should have been clearer on where each one sits in terms of price and relative performance. I'll keep that in mind for when I update this. Thanks!
Any experience with the Shure MV88 for recording to an iPhone (ProMaxy) just bought one for ambient noise at a dance concert but haven’t used it for anything else... yet.
great video! love your vids! can you connect a dynamic microfone to a pc directly to a mic in? which microphones can be used there to get good audio recorded? can i use a laptop instead of buying an amplifier or zoom recorder generally with all mics? greetings from greece!
Hi John, yes, there are some good USB mics on the market. On the less expensive end, there is the Audio Technica AT2005 which can connect directly to a computer via USB, or when you're ready to invest in an audio interface to improve the sound, it can connect to that via an XLR cable. Here's a review we did a while back: ua-cam.com/video/EHgSC3C0pTw/v-deo.html Best wishes!
I use the Mic J 044 and my iPhone with an adapter, it works well it's great low cost solution. Perhaps the bang for the buck was getting a USB stick mic in a box of cords for $6. That microphone surprised me it sounds good and it is a lot easier to use when doing a voice over.
Hey Curtis, thanks for your info, its great help for a novice. Can you tell me if it is possible to record to lapel mics through an adapter into the one DSLR simultaneously?
You're welcome! Yes, two of the three of these audio adapters will allow you to record two lavalier microphones into a DSLR: ua-cam.com/video/B_0od_f_QkQ/v-deo.html
For clarification, you prefer the Re20 for voiceover work like podcasting, would you also say it is a good audiobook recording mic as well? I'm looking for a replacement for my AT4050CM5 and keep thinking about ACX's general warning against dynamic mics. But they would certainly reduce the pops, esses.
For recording long-form content like audio books, I generally prefer large diaphragm condenser microphones. Dynamics generally sound less natural. Don't get me wrong - I use them for live streaming and podcasting, but I generally just prefer the sound of condensers for voice over long-form content like audio books. And if ACX recommends condensers, probably good to stick with their recommendation if the goal is to get hired. If you're getting a lot of pops and sibilance, might look at alternative positions for the mic. With my sibilant voice, I often move condenser microphones up vertically a bit so that the capsule is more in line with my nose vs. my mouth. That helps with both pops and sibilance.
That’s funny, I asked you a question yesterday and now you’ve uploaded this video which does answer some of the questions I had. I’m doing a podcast with a friend and we are not yet at a point where we can afford two RE20’s and all that goes with it. I have an old Beyerdynamic called M700 (looks like the shure sm58) which frankly sounds unbelievable. Has almost no hiss to it at all. The sound is just insanely pleasant and warm and works great with my voice. It doesn’t pick up any echo or room noise (I imagine the proximity bubble is small… if that’s how you call it) but unfortunately they don’t make them anymore and my partner has some wonky Samson that sounds meh, picks up every room noise known to man and is very echoy. Do you know of an affordable podcast like mic that will be good in echoy rooms and has a small proximity bubble and sounds good? Removing hiss in post seems to be easy… I can’t seem to be able to do much with the echo in Audition and in general his mic just picks every noise in his house. Any suggestions?
Haha! Thinking along the same lines! Depends on your budget. The Shure SM-58 is a solid option if you've got a good preamp with plenty of gain (you'll need around +60dB). I also like the Audio Technica AT2005 for tighter budgets: ua-cam.com/video/EHgSC3C0pTw/v-deo.html
In a past video you said that you did not like the sound of the NT5, but after using it more time now you think it is the best low cost option for a microphone for dialogs? Even better option than the Samson CO2 in regards to audio quality? I need to buy one, but I want to make sure I make a good decision. Thank you very much and I am a fan of your videos.
Yes, I prefer the NTG5 over the CO2 in terms of audio quality. Note however that it has a cardioid pickup pattern which is not as isolating as a super-cardioid. This means that you need to get the mic very close to reject ambient noise.
I need to buy a microphone that performs well both outdoors and indoors, as for now I only use lavaliers (rode filmmaker kit) but these are a problem to get good quality. I was thinking about the NTG4 + or NT5, I know they are very different, but which do you think gives me much better quality and less noise in most conditions?
I really like your style, you seem like that casual CEO who has a relaxed yet authoritative and trustworthy vibe about them, maybe it's also the white background? :P Great video.
Thanks! If you're shooting a sit-down interview or talking head, just a basic boom stand like this works nicely. I've got a couple of them I've been using for years: amzn.to/2b8ZiNR When I've got to set up for a wider shot, I use my graphite K-Tek boom pole on a century stand. That's a pricey setup but is very reliable.
Hello! Great videos. I am a yoga and fitness teacher and am looking to film videos in my home - what is the best microphone considering I'll be moving in all directions and wearing exercise clothing? Is voice over the best option (seems complicated)? Also, what is the best microphone for outdoors for filming while moving and wind/etc. Thank you!
+Leila J hi Leila, most yoga instructors either use a lavalier mic or an ear-worn cheek mic. The cheek mics sound better but some people don't want the mic to be seen so they prefer to hide the lavalier, usually under their top/sports bra. I use the RODELink wireless lavalier system with good results: ua-cam.com/video/CONhcUiyIXg/v-deo.html This also works nicely for outdoor walking. Hiding the mic under the top layer of clothing does a nice job managing wind. Best wishes!
Thanks! Yes, I shot a longer piece discussing recorders and headphones in addition to microphones but it came out to almost 30 minutes so I had to cut it down. We'll be back with another episode covering audio recorders.
Cool Curtis! I have been promoting and using the AT4053b for years, and still love it. I have the NTG-2 and NTG-3 shotguns as well, and the NTG-3 is definitely my go to shotgun in every case. But recently I picked up a pair of Rode WS8 furry wind screens to use on my NT-55 matched pair outside, and I discovered that those furrys also fit the AT4053b (a little snugly). This is great because although the NTG-3 sounds amazing, it's long and heavy, and when mounted on my Sony FS5 camera, can feel clunky. So I tested the WS8 on the AT4053b outside in med-strong wind, and it did OK! In normal conditions and light breezes the WS8 is totally effective, and in stronger wind the rumble that gets through is very light, and totally removable. So that mic is my new on-camera mic most of the time. I used to keep my hyper indoor always, and my shotgun outdoors always, but now thanks to the WS8 I am enjoying the smaller size of the hyper. Check it out if you're interested. They are only 25.00 a pop. Cheers. As a side note I actually leave the low-cut in the AT4053b engaged all the time. I find it to be a slightly tubby mic, and the low cut does not result in any thinness in the voice. So that also helps with wind at no cost to the sound quality.
Great to hear that the NTG-3 and 4053b are the go to for you. That same combination has been with me for about 3 years and I still love them. The ATs were from a sponsorship deal even though they wanted me to endorse something else, I felt I had to ask for the 4053b and surprisingly I was rewarded with one! Love them both!
Hi, could you tell me how much of a difference there is with the NTG-2 and AT4053b while recording indoors? I recently got the NTG-4, and was quite disappointed by how much of the reverb it picked up in my small room, so I was wondering if AT4053b is going to perform better in that case. Off axis pickup isn't an issue for me, as I'll always have the mic pointed towards the correct direction. I also watched Curtis' other video comparing the NTG 2 and AT 4053b, but that room had a very different characteristic than my room, it was bigger and less cubical.
Curtis, great video! I have used the RodeLink Wireless Filmmaker kit for over a year now and the lavalier microphone is starting to show serious wear near the bottom 3.5mm jack socket. I am looking for a replacement lavalier for this system in the sub $100 range that will work with the RodeLink kit. Do you have any suggestions?
Hi Brian! It is funny to me that there are really cheap lavaliers ($50 and under) then nothing of note until you hit about $300 it seems. If looking to stay under $100, I'd probably go with the JK MicJ 044 - the version with the sennheiser locking 3.5mm plug. You have already seen this, but if not, here's a review of this mic: ua-cam.com/video/RBxOLnVxg3A/v-deo.html I shot this before the RODELink was released but it'll work with RODELink.
Hi Curtis, I'm typically a one man band. If my main use for mics is interior dialogue with occasional on location walking and talking type shoots yet I already own an NTG-3 would I be better suited using the COS-11D or the AT4053B for the majority of my interviews? Correct me if I'm wrong but lavs sound more warm to me than boom mics in most applications especially in hard to control indoor environments without a sound crew.
Hi, If you're shooting on your own, you'll have a very hard time hand booming a mic and operating camera for a walk and talk so a lav mic sounds like the right mic for the job. Mounting an AT4053b (or any other mic) on top of the camera will generally not sound warm.
The Rode Videomic Pro seems popular because of its ability to pick up more on the lower frequency (mostly in a male voice). Though not accurate sounding, but it is preferred by many, including myself. It would be nice if you could do comparison with other mics that have similar sounding to this. More like other alternatives to the Rode VideoMic Pro. (More budget option maybe?)
Ah yes, we did that a little earlier this year: ua-cam.com/video/qRyUvMGVjis/v-deo.html This is obviously a very limited comparison, but I keep coming back to the RODE as my favorite choice. Thanks!
Thanks for the link Curtis. I have checked the vid. Rode Videomic Pro is still best at catching the lower frequency sound. Keep up the great work. Cheers.
Hey Curtis, you talk about recording from your lav mic directly into your mobile phone. What apps can you recommend on the phone to give the best audio? I'm an iPhone user. Thanks!
+Curtis Judd Ah, thanks. I've had lots of problems with RØDE Rec, actually. You should check out Voice Record Pro. It's really good! appsto.re/au/d1KMG.i
Hi Curtis just subscribed! Thanks for the great info. I have the Blackmagic P4K and the rode videomic pro. What’s the difference between just buying an adapter like the Rode VXLR or VXLR+ and connecting the videomic pro vs just buying an XLR mic like the NTG2? Should I invest in another microphone or just buy the adapter? Any sound difference with the adapter?
Hi Christopher, if the mic will be mounted on the camera, I would just run the VideoMic Pro into the 3.5mm input. The small improvement in audio quality will not make up for the position of the mic. Hopefully that makes sense. Beat wishes!
When you will have someone booming the mic within 18 inches of the talent and especially when you need to run extension cables longer than about 10 feet is where you’ll find the biggest difference. The biggest issue is that camera mounted mics are usually too far from the sound source to sound great unless you’ve got the camera very close to the talent like for a vlog.
Can you do a VO tutorial video? Step by step to make a simple demo or one final product. 1, pick/place mic/setup room 2: warm up 3:open audacity and set theses settings 4: record your copy and watch for this/that/etc 5: stop recording and go into audacity and change these settings, change the db to industry standards (stress industries standards and practices) 6: export rules 7: tips and tricks. Explain why for every step along the way. Insider stuff and standard practices are unparallelled information for amateurs. I would love to see a series of this kind of stuff for you. I already take your advise on gear very seriously but a tutorial done by you and your style would be so valuable to us because of your knowledge and perfect presentation.
+Adam C. Boyd thanks Adam! What I'd love to do is a one-day workshop to cover all of this. For now, my dialogue post processing course is as close as I have gotten. But I'll try to find a way to make that happen. Thanks again!
These vids are fantastic, don't stop making them. It's so refreshing to see a review/comparison with zero brand biased, great sound, proper lighting and comprehensible dialogue. Not that I don't like "YO dis mic is like AMAZING cuz it's got this shiny thing and says Shnenhisinger on da side..." videos, I just prefer the level of professionalism displayed in yours. Well done.
+Patrick Thompson thanks Patrick, much appreciated.
Always appreciate your reviews. Watching in 2022 to see if there are any gems in the used mic category worth getting.
My favorite for indoor dialogue is the Sennheiser MKH8050: ua-cam.com/video/RYWD5wI6B9k/v-deo.html
Thanks for this review. I think what I enjoy the most is the fact that you show several options that cover different price points.
I was sure you were going to throw the AT4053b in there, but was really happy to see you talk about the less expensive option, especially as your recommendation was the Røde NT5, which I have been considering.
Thanks again Curtis and please keep the reviews coming.
Thanks and will do!
Great videos. Any chance for an updated video exactly like this, since a lot of new mics are out there?
We have several updates, but since there are so many microphones, I had to break it out into several videos: VO Mics ua-cam.com/video/YyjzH_x3_dI/v-deo.html
Podcast and streaming mics: ua-cam.com/video/RX3mgP09St8/v-deo.html
Pro lavalier mics: ua-cam.com/video/tXb7Ov-S6dc/v-deo.html
Boom mics: ua-cam.com/video/q7rfwCFjBDg/v-deo.html
Hey Curtis, few questions because I feel you are one of the best UA-camr's that actually get into detail. 1) What mic and recorder do you use when filming your UA-cam videos because you sound extremely clear (almost like an announcer). 2) What audio program do you use for audio, I have a huge issue with hearing me inhale and I have to do retakes lol. 3) What is the best distance to sit from a mic? Thank you Curtis so mic for your videos
Hi Dwayne, 1) I have a ton of microphones so it changes quite often, but my favorite pro level setup is a Sennheiser MKH 8050 and a Sound Devices 633. 2) for processing audio, I use Adobe Audition.
Note, however, that I've been trying to improve my audio for well over 10 years and have made a lot of mistakes and still have a ways to go. What I've found is that creating great recordings is 90% skill, 10% gear. I have several courses over at School.LearnLightAndSound.com on how to record and post process sound if you're interested. Best wishes!
Thanks for the quick reply :O AMAZING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!
Super helpful and great idea for video. My older brother (musician) has a Shure SM-58 from 40+ years ago and amazingly enough it still works. :)
Thanks! I think when those mics get to that age, and they've been used to hammer in nails on stage that are coming out, they sound even better. :) They take on a smoky, sultry sound.
Thanks so much, very useful and I hope you can keep repeating this video every year or so
Thanks for the feedback!
Time to get that Audio Technica AT4053b! :-) Thank you for the great reviews Curtis!!
You're welcome Jordy! I hope it works well for you!
Thanks Curtis, it's coming in today so I'm very exited to test it against my Rode NTG-2. I had much trouble with indoor dialogue.
Hi; have you had a chance to use the Audio Technica AT4053B? How does it compare to the NTG2? cheers
I assume you're asking Cinecom.net. :) I very much prefer the AT for indoor dialogue.
Yes I'm using it a lot. Great for indoor use! The sound quality is also a lot better. When I do screencasts however, I still use the NTG-2 as I sometimes move away from the mic a little bit while explaining things with my arms (even though nobody sees that :D)
LOVE your videos. This is all so new to me but I'm really enjoying the range that you're covering. Let's me know there's plenty of room to grow and helps me feel more confident in buying intro level gear when money is tight.
+Jont Noneya thanks Jont! Enjoy your sound journey!
Thanks for sharing your comments on the different gear you have been using for some time. Good to get feedback after you been using it for a while.
+Simple Audio Tips thanks Gary!
I can't understand who downvotes these videos. Thank you Curtis for great content that comes straight to the point without all of the bombastic self-aggrandisement of other channels.
Thanks Neil!
These video with multiple devices with your opinion after long term use are so appreciated and useful. And it is great that you are clear on why you like the particular products!
+randomgeocacher thanks!
I'm waiting for a 2019 equivalent of this video.
Me too! Definitely on the list before the year ends.
@@VernardLuz Thanks Vernard.
+1
@@curtisjudd Waiting on this 2019 Update vid aswell!
@@BushMasterThermal I have just one more item in my review queue. The updated mic meta-review will probably be early 2020 now. 😀
Thanks very much Chris. Your presentation is excellent and you have a natural air of assuredness which gives me confidence in your advice. If I can make one suggestion....would it be possible to caption each item to make clear the make and model? Thanks
Hi Tim, thanks! Yes, I can do that. Also, there is reference information in the description.
Hey Curtis. I've stumbled across your videos off and on for the last year. You almost always seem to have a video for what I'm looking for. Finally subscribed today. This video was excellent. I studied audio engineering in college but never did a lot of work with lav mics so great to hear someone who's in the industry share which ones they use and why. I'm also glad you didn't come on here and talk about how much you love your $1000k+ gear. Thanks for what you do :)
Thanks Thom, I appreciate your feedback!
What about higher end Shotgun mics though?
+CZsWorld will cover just as soon as I can afford one. :)
+Curtis Judd
Don't people send you them to review?
The donated "gear for review" are usually the less expensive items. I may be able to borrow some.
+Curtis Judd
I do like the fact that the stuff you review is more in my price range though. (Some of the recorders you've looked at are on the higher end though.)
Very nice. On your recommendation, I bought and always use the Aputure A.lav mic on all my videos. I love it. Thanks for the recommendation months ago. :-)
+Communication Skills Training thanks and great to hear that the A.lav is working well for you!
Thank you Curtis. I know that this is an older video but I'm on a catch up!! One thing with all mics, let alone lavalier is the problem of self noise and how it's advertised with each microphone. The Aputure, as you say is low noise and yet if you believe the figures on the box, it should be higher noise than others which show a better performance on the box, but unfortunately don't when you use them!! The figures don't seem to match real life performance, so reviews like this are extremely useful. Another low noise one seems to be the Boya m1 which boasts >75dB for noise, yet the Aputure states >65dB. If only we could get these figures onto an even playing field. There is currently some great work going on in the field of headphone measurements in order to get more comparable FR graphs and what constitutes 'flat' and maybe we could use a similar idea one day with microphones in order to help us more informatively with our choices.
Hi Ian, thanks, and I agree! The way these things generally work, it seems, is that the industry changes when the end-users and independent engineers call for sanity. We could definitely use some of that in the microphone spec world.
Hello Curtis: The Rode Pro Mic in my opinion is the best one for out doors and just does a fantastic job for the price the only inconvenience is installing the battery but not a problem and I was looking for a good mic to use indoors and you answered that well in this video.
+john erwin thanks John.
Great review!
I too use a various array of Microphones some not in the purpose they were meant for.
As a sound engineer many years ago I watched others use techniques to get the most.
Like creating boundariy microphones for a certain sound or use a Calrec soundfield mics.
I use Sony, short Shotguns and both Sennheiser and Marantz long rifle mics, they have their own sound. Also I use a Neumann TLM 102 for certain room sounds. I would not recommend it if you haven’t got the budget!
👍 If it sounds good, even if the microphone wasn't intended for the purpose, it is good.
appreciate your thorough reviews and professional approach.
Thanks Phil!
Thank you Curtis
With all the products you review it is very good to see what your kept and used preferences are.
Cheers, Pete
Thanks Pete!
I just bought the AT4053b per your video reviews. I intend to use it inside, for interviews and videos of myself for my channel. This, will feed into the new Zoom F4, and I am really excited! Thanks again so much for your expert help on this topic!
Thanks Travis, I hope they work well for you!
Just did a shoot with the new mic! It was an advice video for brides, on planning the wedding day. WOW, recording with the Zoom F4, I can see how this really make a nice, clean source! I was able to boom the mic just a few inches (maybe 10") away.. and it sounds great. However, I still think I need to learn more about tweaking the EQ sliders in FCP, to richen up my voice.
+Travis Harris Photography that's great news! We should cover EQ in an upcoming episode.
Love this type of video. This and your videos about why Pros use the more expensive gear are super helpful and I feel like no one else covers gear this way. Keep 'em coming! (and agree with previous posters, a video like this on field recorders would be great)
+BiteSite Inc. thanks, definitely planning to do the same for field recorders!
ALTHOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN SOME VIDEO, I MISSED YOUR MENTIONING A MIC FOR RECORDING MUSIC FROM INDIVIDUAL INSTRUMENTS FOR OVERDUBBING BY BEGINNERS.. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ? YOU ARE THE BEST " EXPLAINER " ON UA-cam.
Hi Granddaddy, the RODE NT5 is a decent choice for recording instruments: geni.us/WMXP
Here's a comparison of it vs. several other mics - though in this case we used it for dialogue recording. The NT5 was originally designed for recording instruments: ua-cam.com/video/q-b_1gOYOEQ/v-deo.html
In the upcoming year I'll need to make a couple outdoor/in a coffee shop interviews for school, what type of mic would you recommend if I want both our voices on the audio? It doesn't need to be super expensive since its not being reviewed for the audio quality but id rather have a decent one. Keep up the great work, I may not watch all the videos you make but I'm sure I'll be able to use them as reference later.
Thanks!
Hi Alfred. Hmm. It might make sense to use something like a Zoom H1 where you have stereo mics, each pointing opposite the other. You'll need to sit in pretty close to the recorder to manage the ambient sound since coffee shops have a tendency to have a lot of ambient sound and reflective surfaces. Good luck!
+Curtis Judd thanks!
gret video, I like the summary across different types, price ranges and usage
Thanks for the feedback.
Great video Chris, thx but a little surprised the diety v3 pro didnt make the list 🤔
Hi JT, thanks. This is an old video from 2016 before DEITY Microphones was in business. :) Here's a newer microphone meta-review I posted just a couple of weeks ago: ua-cam.com/video/q7rfwCFjBDg/v-deo.html
i also have a question about mic placement : the physics says we have to place the mic as close to the source as possible due the fact that sound amplitude diminishes with the square of the distance( a $20 mic at 5 inches will sound better than a $1000 mic at 3 feet) . so why dont we use head boom that brings the mic 1-2 inches from the mouth(like www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PMEMS10-Omni-Directional-Microphone-System/dp/B003D2YRLA) rather than the typical lav placement on the chest or shotgun overhead on a boom stand that are 5-10 inches away from the mouth?
That's a great question and yes, placing a mic on the cheek sounds more natural than placing the mic on a person's chest which tends to sound boomier and more resonant, not very natural. The main reason is that for dramatic narratives, having a mic in the shot just isn't desired. And some directors don't like them showing even in documentaries and interviews. My favorite place to hide lavalier mics is at the top of the forehead in the hair, in a hat, or on eyeglasses. It sounds much better and more natural and follows when the talent turns their head. But it takes longer to set up so it is a tradeoff.
By the way, love your reviews, they're the most comprehensive and thorough; very detailed and professionally filmed.
+Musique Decor Multimedia Design thanks!
Excellent job, can't wait for your faves from your recorders. Thanks.
Thanks!
Here in Brazil I always watch your videos. Congratulations. Which microphone and camera were used in this video. Thanks and Greetings from Brazil
Hi Osvaldo, I'm sorry, it has been so long that I don't remember! I think it was a Panasonic GH4 or GH5 and probably the Audio Technica AT4053B.
@@curtisjudd
I really have to thank your professionalism because for those who are starting out like me (I will teach live), yours classes are very clear, explain well and the quality is great. I'm going to the United States to buy equipment and now I know which ones to buy for my classes thanks to their teachings.
Boya NTG4 - Lapel Audio Technica - Sony AX 100 4K Camcorder.
Thank you.
I found this type of video a really useful guide,
Thanks Curtis, alway putting great stuff out here !
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you. Another fantastic and informative review. You are truly one of the best on UA-cam for video and sound production!
+Shaka thanks much! Shaka!
I recently bought a Fender Hotrod Deluxe amp and of course the idea of an audio interface and a condenser mic came. However, I did try buying a Samson Q2U USB microphone plugged into a Novation Audiohub and I'm happily impressed with the recording quality
👍Glad to hear its working out!
Curtis, thank you so much for doing this video (and all the others)! I have a few questions if I may.
1. What are your thoughts on the DPA 4018? Have you used one? How would you compare the 4018 with the AT 4053b? If you hadn't used either, which one would you be drawn to on paper specs alone? If you have used the 4018 (or are very familiar with it) when would you 'not' use it over the 4053b or vice versa?
2. If you were capturing dialogue for film, which microphones would you use for exterior and interior (accounting for both minimal and substantial humidity) if the rental house didn't have any Schoeps or you couldn't afford to buy a couple that would cover both INT and EXT scenarios?
(If you could do a video that covers mics for film scenarios comparing highest end with prosumer level that would be 'really' interesting!)
3. I'm looking at the F8 as a stepping stone to the Sound devices 633. You mentioned in your review on the F8 that the downside was the lack of analogue condenser for sound going in and that for sudden loud noises you'd have problems. Couldn't that be solved if you split the audio to two channels and lowered the levels on the second channel to account for unexpected loudness? If you set up an unused channel in this way wouldn't that security blanket diminish the lack of analogue condenser?
4. If you do use a F8 on a film shoot and you were fairly skilled at mixing audio in post, couldn't the F8 deliver good enough sound so that what's missing from the Sound Devices 633 becomes somewhat irrelevant after you're done in post? (assuming time and speed isn't a major factor)
5. What are you thoughts on Lectrosonics in general and the SSM/E01 specifically? If money wasn't an issue, would anyone choose any other transmitter over the E01?
Thanks for any time you have to answer these questions!
Hi Curtis,
thanks for all your great reviews. I haven't seen them all, but the ones I've seen have no waiste.
There's a kind of mic you haven't taken into consideration: the headset lavaliers.
I do quite a bit of conferences and I'm sick and tired of holding my SM58 in my hand.
I've hear about a Samson Stage XPD1 which comes with a usb dongle to conect it to the computer.
I also use for conferencing and podcasting a RME Babyface Pro (superb audio interface!) and I'd like to know if this headset could be easily routed to the Babyface.
Thanks once again!
Actually I had seen your review on the Samsung XPD1 but I'm still in doubt if it will be too complicated to route it to may audio interface
Yes, I like ear worn microphones a lot in terms of sound response/quality. They sound much, much better than lavaliers worn on other parts of the body (usually the chest area). Unfortunately my work usually requires hidden microphones which is the only reason I do not own any.
That being said, they're a great choice for live presenting.
The Samson XPD1 is more of a low-cost option for those without an audio interface so I agree, not the best choice when you're routing through an audio interface.
Countryman's E6 is pricey but very good in terms of quality and comes in versions with just about every connector you might need. It might be tricky to find one which would work both for wireless on-stage use (which will have a mini connector for the various wireless systems) vs an audio interface (where you have full-size XLR connectors.
Indeed the Countryman E6 is expensive, are there any alternatives that could fit my need? I use a RME Babyface as an audio interface. A wireless connection would be the ideal, but a wired one could be acceptable.
Thanks for your help and advices Curtis.
Hi Ernesto, I haven't personally used any other ear-worn mics so I don't have any recommendations from first-hand experience. But in terms of brands to consider, I would look at Audio Technica for something with a lower price than the Countryman. Other brands which will also be expensive include DPA, Sennheiser, Sony, and Shure. I think the question may come down to how sick of holding an SM58 you are: Are you willing to spend $600 to avoid holding a mic? How about $400? If you also need wireless, that will add to the cost and potential interference issues as well.
Here is a wired ear-worn mic from Audio Technica which you could feed into your RME interface via its XLR input: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/649067-REG/Audio_Technica_BP892_BP892_MicroSet_Subminiature.html/BI/19904/KBID/12941/kw/AUBP892/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xAUBP892
Best wishes!
Your prior help was great and you did make a suggestion. Your reviews and help lead me to the Azden 250 and the Rode NTG series (XLR). Based on the following repeat, will you again make a recommendation. Audio quality is major concern:
I'm virtually locked in to camera mount. Neither boom nor wireless is practical and seldom have access to Sound Panel. a minimum of 'Tail' is desired.
Shooting variety shows with singers, comics, loud music, usually off to sides. Tripod mount from 15 - 60' back. Audience mostly from behind or around cam (Canon xa 30).
Preferred features: battery + phantom, battery light, gain control, frequency control. Have $400 budget.
Thank you for your professional videos. It is so annoying listing to clowns that say little and don't seem to have a planned direction on their reviews. I am a retired, high end, classroom instructor/trainer so I appreciate you and will tell my friends.
Hi Vince, I'm stumped in terms of recommendations given the requirements. Cardioid mics do not have a tail on the rear. The RODE NT3 can be powered via an internal 9V battery but it does not have a gain or frequency control. To get those, you'd probably need to add a mixer. But have a look at the NT3 and let me know if that's heading down the right path. Best wishes!
I found this type of video very helpful, thanks.
Another thing is that in all the comparisons I've heard I prefer the sound of the SM57 to the SM58 for voice, even though it's the same capsule and marketed as an instrument mic. You do need a windscreen or pop filter for the SM57, though. I haven't been able to do a comparison myself yet, but it might be something to keep in mind.
+Karreth good idea, thanks!
Best mic video watched so far. Subbed! Hope to see outdoors type recording info too.
Thanks William, will do. In fact, we did this piece on shotgun microphones which are typically used outdoors: ua-cam.com/video/veD8BVXV3Ls/v-deo.html Best wishes
Curtis, I need a better shotgun mic and I'm struggling between the Rode NTG2 and NTG4+... for interviews (overhead) and outdoor-shootings. Your advice is very welcome!
Hi Rivius, since I shot this, I reviewed the Deity S-Mic 2 which is a competitor to the NTG4+, but sounds quite a lot better. It doesn't have a self-powering option but worth considering is your camera or audio recorder has phantom power: ua-cam.com/video/x4tPO0G8b2Y/v-deo.html
If the mic must be self-powered, and as strange as it sounds, I prefer the sound of the NTG2 to the NTG4+. However, the NTG2 needs a preamp with a lot of clean gain to sound nice so keep that in mind. Best wishes and happy recording! 🎤
@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot!
Curtis, honestly love your videos mate. So detailed and you're a great speaker too! Thank you.
+Samar Ali Khan thanks Samar!
Curtis, I recommend that you try one more mic. The Oktava MK 012 with the Hypercardioid capsule to be used on a boom right out of the frame.
Hi, thanks Michael, it is on my list to try.
Hi Curtis. I really like your videos. Learned so much.
I have just ordered a6300 and discovered sony makes bluetooth wireless microphone : Sony ECM-W1M, which apparently can hold external mic. It would be great to see test with Giant squid or similar lapel mic for interview, because receiver has audio out for monitoring, but still records audio trough hot shoe.
Very cheap (around 140$) alternative for monitoring audio while recording for sony a6300 which lacks audio out. Thnx!
Thanks Bojan. Looks interesting and I'll consider that for a future episode!
That would be great Curtis! Thnx. Keep up good job.
Hi Curtis The NT3 & NT4+ both look the closest and I like the conversion to 3.5mm jack for other cameras. Right now I am leaning toward the 4+ . What do you think?
As usual, nice video, good content. Just for reference I am a production sound mixer and use a Sennheiser MKH 8050 hyper cardioid for interiors and an 8060 shotgun for exteriors. Both are small, lightweight great sounding and are mid priced for pro work compared to the Schoeps mics of the world. I like your recommendation of the AT 4053b mic for interiors, looks like a deal particularly with interchangeable capsules. I own many AT mics for various reasons but mainly because they are all nice sounding for the money.
Hey thanks +RallenMan, good to get input from a production mixer! I've had the 8050 on my "to try" list for a while so good to hear some input on that. I'm curious why you chose the 8050 over the MKH50? And the same for the 8060 over the 416? Thanks!
+Curtis Judd The MKH 50 and 416 are classic mics designed 30 years ago. Even so they are still used by pro mixers around the world because they perform well and sound great. I wanted more modern and lighter mics so my research pointed me to the 8050, 8040, and 8060. I have to admit not many mixers use these mics but in tests they do very well and are reasonably priced. The current favorites that many mixers are using today other than Schoeps are DPA 4017b shotgun and 4018 hyper cardioid. I tried them both and they are truly state of the art mics. As light as the 8060 is, the 4017b is about half the weight which is amazing. The 416 is still highly regarded as a serious tool that every mixer should own although I think of it more as an indestructible ENG mic. I don't have one but I do own its big brother the 816, now there is a piece of pipe work, but it is not used much anymore by anyone. Too long, too heavy.
+RallenMan thanks! I stopped by the DPA booth at NAB this year and saw the 4017b and 4018, and would love to give them a try. The few sample clips I have heard sounded rather bright, perhaps too bright, but nothing substitutes trying for oneself. And of course some voices do better with different mics.
+Curtis Judd Interesting, but not my experience, I thought the DPAs sounded very neutral and flat, but that was in comparison to my 8060. A mixer friend of mine who uses all DPA including lavs tried my 8060 and bought one because he said it had "punch" that the 4017b lacks. As you said it depends on voices and location. One thing I have noticed is many mixers use the 4017b on interiors where I have always used a hyper. They tell me the 4017b does better in slightly reverberant spaces than typical shotguns. As you may know shotguns don't work well where reverb reflections from walls ceiling and floor hit the interference tube and cancels out the the directionality of the mic. That is why we use hyper cardioid mics in those locations.
Thanks, makes sense and definitely on my list. Yes, I've definitely experienced the phase issues that come with shotgun mics in reverberant spaces or when the actor is off axis just enough that a fair bit of the sound enters through the interference tube slots. Not a great sound.
I recall in your review of the Azden SGM-250 you said that mic was actually quieter than the NTG-2 at a similar price point. Why did the Rode win out?
I do really like this style of video, so many channels (yours included) make very good reviews of a wide range of products but I always think learning what they actually use gives a much better impression of quality and usability.
Another great video! I would like to see a similar one on recorders.
Thanks Bryce, good question. For me, it is how it sounds. Side by side, the NTG2 sounds a fair bit warmer with a little more low-end response and without as much mid-range harshness. With the Azden, I can EQ the clips in post and make them sound great, but if I can avoid that extra work, that's better for me. I hope that makes sense.
+Curtis Judd I own an NTG2 and the sound is awesome. When you record, do you use the high pass filter or not?
+Willie Padin hi Willie, if I'm shooting out in the wind I generally do but not when recording in a quiet space.
+Curtis Judd Thanks so much!
Thanks so much Curtis, this was great. You have such a big library of reviews that it is nice to have these as a reference. Excellent job, especially including the links to your individual product reviews with the thumbnail videos throughout. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Very cool. I appreciate these "long term" tests. They give a higher and deeper perspective when choosing among several products. I hope you'll do more of these. Question/ comment - Curious why you didn't have the Sennheiser G3 (or G2) lav mic review in here. I thought that was sort of the gold standard for a lav mic.
Thanks Doug. I figured enough people had reviewed the G3 that I've never bought one. I've used them and they're great, but I don't own a set.
love this type of comparison video!
Thanks.
You're a great teacher, Curtis. I have one question. So, I understand your lesson regarding the cardioid's being better for indoor sound to combat reverb, but how do you negotiate between a super cardioid shotgun vs. a lavalier?
Hi Amanda, thanks! My thinking, generally, is to use a lavalier when I must, but use a shotgun all the rest of the time. A shotgun microphone almost always sounds more natural to me. Cases where a lavalier is the only option for me: When I cannot practically boom because I'm operating camera, or there are several talent and they're both moving (relatively far apart from each other), etc. I hope that makes sense and thanks for the question!
Hi Curtis any chance you are in the market for an even more sensitive mic for very long distance pickup ? Ie something like the Rode NT8 or Audio Technica BP4071 AT4071a / L models ? I'd love to see you reviewing something like this and the difference this kind of mic has over a shorter alternative.
Hi! I'm not in the market but I might be able to borrow or rent one. I'll add that to the list. Thanks!
Thank you for the video! I am looking at upgrading my Zoom H1 this Christmas, and these are some good options for me to choose from.
I'll record on a noisy convention floor for Computex soon. Was going to buy the Rode VideoMic Pro to use with my Zoom H4N but perhaps the NTG-2 would be better to isolate dialog? Can't use a boom or lav. Help! And thanks so much for your excellent content, super helpful!
Liked this a lot, Curtis. Looking forward to your class.
Thanks Ken!
Really enjoy this type of recap video. Super helpful, thanks!!
Thanks!
About a year ago I was listening to shotgun comparisons on youtube--can't remember who did it--but among the microphones was the AT 4053b--and I fell in love with the sound. I thought the sound was the equal of the Sennheiser mkh-416---and less expensive. An amazing microphone.
Yes, still one of my favorites! The 416 still has more "reach" due to its more focused polar pattern so generally a better option for outdoor use and when you have to position the mic a little farther away. But the sound of the AT is really nice.
Thank you for sharing this ! Which pair of small diaphram condenser do you recommand for recording quiet ambiances, like birds, room tones, sound of nature in general (for less than 800$ the pair) ? Se electronic se8 ? Lewitt lct 040 ? rode nt 55 ?
Hi David. I haven't used any of the microphones you specifically listed, though I have used the RODE NT5 which I believe shares the same capsules as the NT55. My sense is that any of those could do the job and the important thing will be to invest in a good windshield for when you work outdoors. Best wishes!
Great video, really enjoyed the short per category resume. Thanks again for all your videos, really enjoy your presentation.
Would love to see, if in time, you manage to get a hold of a Audio-Technica AT875R and Audix SCX1-HC to see how you like them compared to what you have tested and prefer.
Thanks Pabula. The AT875R is on my list to test and we tested the Audix SCX1-HC here: ua-cam.com/video/q-b_1gOYOEQ/v-deo.html
Thanks Curtis! Nicely done as always. These comparisons are a great help imo... For podcasting I use the Heil PR40 which sits right there with the SM7B and RE20. Mic preamps can make or break the audio quality as you know. When I first started I purchased a Focusrite 2i2. I quickly got rid of it. Now I am running a MOTU 1248. Maybe more than most people need or want especially at $1500 but the preamps are clean with tons of gain. They also make a smaller version now called the MOTU UltraLite. It's still not cheap at $649 but you won't be disappointed... :-)
Cheers,
Greg
Thanks Greg! I completely agree, quality preamps are critical for dynamic mics. Motu has been making some great, if pricey interfaces for quite a while now. Would love to try one out some day.
The Rode Pro battery part was so hard to open : ( I could not stand it so I opted for the Sure LensHopper instead.
Yes, practical matters.
Curtis Judd Is that one easy to open?
I didn't have any trouble with the new VideoMic Pro, but others have said they had trouble with it. If you take the foam cover off and learn how it works, I think it is pretty straightforward.
Thanks, really great and useful insight. I would love to hear what you have to say about the Zoom H6. I am seriously considering it for all of its uses and how much better it is than the previous Zooms which I have used very successfully on several productions.
I just listened to a podcast where they were using the Zoom h6 with the Rode NT1-A and it really sounded great, very rich and warm. Not sure how much of that was the room they were in, but it sounded really good to me, and it's a bit cheaper than the Lectro Voice.
astrologychick I just bought a H5 it’s great
Spend a little more and get a sound devices mixpre 3 or 6. Much better preamps and analog limiters
Curtis i'm on your sound production course and its very good i'm learning a lot. in terms of dynamic range and pre amp quality What is the better option out or the Tascam 60d mark 2 or the zoom h5 to go with the rode ntg2?
Hi Jermaine, those two are about the same so in that case it is really a matter of preference on other factors. The H5 has longer battery life but requires a little more work in the menu to get things set up. The Tascam has more physical buttons and switches making setup quick and easy but the battery life is not quite as strong. The Tascam can be powered by a USB battery while the H5 cannot. In terms of audio quality, they're virtually identical in my experience.
I hope that you will someday do a video on best carioid unidirectional lavalier mics suitable for use while videoing on phones and cameras in noisy city or public park areas. The carioid unidirectional lav mics are said to cut back 50% on side noise, noise above from planes/helicopters and cut back even more on noise behind the speaker. Also maybe you could include those omnidirectional lav mics that pick up the least background noise.
Hi, I have not been happy with the cardioid lavalier microphones I have tested to date. They generally sound very thin and are difficult to position for optimal pickup and generally don't work well if hidden under clothes. I find myself preferring ear worn microphones in most cases where maximum noise rejection is required. That said, if you need a cardioid lavalier, I'd probably opt for the Countryman B2D or DPA 4080.
Countryman B2D: bhpho.to/2B6xSCb
DPA 4080: bhpho.to/2i0ooEF
Another great video Curtis as always!
Thanks!
Nice review can't you do that on field recorder like zoom or tascam doing the same kind of work for camera voice over etc. thanks
Hi Tony, thanks! Yes, absolutely. I use both all the time. :)
Great round up and review. Keep making these. Everyone should do these because it's way more useful. Curious to hear you thoughts on the Sennheiser microphones k6 power and me66 mic and that whole system. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback! I've added the ME66 to my list. My brother has one and we shot a quick piece with it. Pretty solid little mic.
Great channel!!! Just some advice if you don't mind. Have a GH4 and will be doing a combo of narrative and documentary filming, what do you think would be a good audio setup to start out with. Just a bit confused as to whether to record externally or to go directly into the camera. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again
Hi Jamie, if you will be shooting solo, the Deity D3 Pro is worth a look: ua-cam.com/video/W9Sde3ey2kc/v-deo.html
If you’ll have someone to handle the sound, a separate recorder can generally produce higher quality. We cover a bunch of them here: ua-cam.com/video/hqgCZCEq0_8/v-deo.html
@@curtisjudd Hey Curtis thanks for the reply and advice. I have access to a Tascam DR40, with that in mind, would you go directly into the camera with, say, the Diety mic or do you suggest going into the camera via the tascam? Thanks
@@johncheatdom9409 The DR-40 doesn't have the cleanest preamps so taking the D3 pro directly to camera would *probably* get you better results, depending on the camera. Note that getting the mic close to the sound source is the #1 way to improve sound. So rather than mounting it on camera when you're doing an interview, for example, boom the mic above the talent so that it is about 12 - 18 inches from their mouth and then use an extension to run it to the camera. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd I'll be using a Panasonic GH4 and everything I've heard is that the internal preamps aren't the best .Thanks for the advice
The GH4 preamps are not any worse than the DR40 in my experience so going straight to camera would simplify the overall setup without sacrificing audio quality.
Super helpful, and I've wondered about this topic for a while. Thanks.
Thanks Pat.
I have lewitt lct 340s. Love them. And I have an audix scx-one.
Hadn't heard of the Lewitts before, thanks for that!
Curtis Great Review.. and I wish I could take your online course, which is exactly what I need... but I use FCPX. Can you make a video on optimizing sound for dialogue using FCPX? Capture to PP or just PP using FCPs native effects (compressor, limiter, etc.?) Thank you! BTW, your channel is the best no non-sense educational and review channel in this area. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. :)
+Real World Endo thanks! I use FCPX too, but edit my audio in Audition since it has a much fuller feature set. I usually avoid processing audio in NLEs because you don't get enough visibility of the waveforms and cannot apply effects except as real-time effects to a track. The problem with that is you cannot tell very well how to set the effects such as threshold on a compressor - there's no dB scale to see where to set that threshold. You bring up a good question though. Perhaps I need to demonstrate why processing audio in a video editing app (NLE) is so difficult. Thanks for the idea!
+Curtis Judd Thanks Cutis. Keep in mind, however, that the majority of FCPX users doing talking heads are not editing on an NLE for super duper professional sound, but rather sound that will get their point across without being too amateurish. Let's say that talking head videos are a different sound scale than an audiophile's music track. I think for those editing on an NLE the goal is practical advice to get the most out of what's already there without round-tripping to another software. The goal is efficiency in that case, not the maximum audio quality. Thanks!
+Real World Endo yes, good point. I'll need to learn how to do that 😀
Curtis, thanks for this update! Quick, esoteric question for you: any idea how the smartlav+ does with rain or sweat? I'm trying to improve audio for some outdoor adventure videos. Thanks!
Should add I'm trying to optimize water and sweat resistance, mobility of mic-ed subject, weight of mic/receiver, and cost, with that priority order. Appreciate any insight or suggestions.
Hi Es, Countryman makes a lavalier microphone that is designed to get wet which you may want to consider: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/294615-REG/Countryman_MEMWF05BSR_EMW_Omnidirectional_Lavalier_Microphone.html/BI/19904/KBID/12941/kw/COMEMWFBSR/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xCOMEMWFBSR
I haven't subjected my smartLav+ to a lot of sweat or water but I can say that most mics do not do well once they get wet. So if you KNOW it is going to get wet and you cannot afford to risk it, I'd take a serious look at the Countryman.
Muchas gracias
Really good & helpful, thanks for the Tips Curtis!
+Jakob S. Films thanks for the feedback!
What do you think of using a matched pair of the nt5s with a zoom f3 for ambient field recording? I'm trying to get the lowest NOiSE possible on a budget.
Seems like they should be a good combination.
The Rode NT1a's a good podcasting/voiceover mic for lower budgets, too. Picked one up a few years ago, and it's served me very well considering the cost.
That being said, I usually still end up just booming a Sennheiser K6/ME66 overhead and using that instead.
+John Aldred thanks John, I agree. The NT1a was the first XLR mic I bought and it is a fine option. Being a little more sensitive than dynamic mics, one might need to be a bit more careful about how the room sounds and how much it reflects, but yes, a great mic for VO.
Hi Curtis, just stumbled onto your channel and you have a wealth of resources! Thank you for sharing! Just wondering on this: in a controlled shoot, would you elect to use a lav system or go with a shotgun/boom scenario? I'm debating a G3 or Sony UWD system over a proper shotgun (Sein. 413). Looking for the most versatile situation... Cheers from Dubai, Chris :)
Hi Chris, When I have the option, I record with both a boom and lav. In those situations, I almost always end up using just the boom recording because it sounds much better. Lavs are tricky: They often pick up the sound of clothing or hair brushing across them, even when expertly hidden. If you're using wireless, there's another league of challenges altogether. If versatility is your top priority, a lav may fit the bill, but be ready to do retakes when you get unwanted noise.
very helpful, but you separate the mic in categories ( over camera, lav, shotgun on mic stand,voice over) without letting us understand how they rank across categories so do you have a 3 or 4 increasing price setup (under $300) recommendations for very cheap external sound recording in a vlogging indoor talking head situation (including any type of mic type/setup ,recording on a phone possible)
Thanks for the feedback. I've included an array here but I should have been clearer on where each one sits in terms of price and relative performance. I'll keep that in mind for when I update this. Thanks!
Any experience with the Shure MV88 for recording to an iPhone (ProMaxy) just bought one for ambient noise at a dance concert but haven’t used it for anything else... yet.
Yes: ua-cam.com/video/ZgTrdlvrn7s/v-deo.html
great video! love your vids! can you connect a dynamic microfone to a pc directly to a mic in? which microphones can be used there to get good audio recorded? can i use a laptop instead of buying an amplifier or zoom recorder generally with all mics? greetings from greece!
Hi John, yes, there are some good USB mics on the market. On the less expensive end, there is the Audio Technica AT2005 which can connect directly to a computer via USB, or when you're ready to invest in an audio interface to improve the sound, it can connect to that via an XLR cable. Here's a review we did a while back: ua-cam.com/video/EHgSC3C0pTw/v-deo.html Best wishes!
Great review! Thank you! And greetings from Japan!
Thank you and greetings from the Rocky Mountains in the western USA!
I use the Mic J 044 and my iPhone with an adapter, it works well it's great low cost solution. Perhaps the bang for the buck was getting a USB stick mic in a box of cords for $6. That microphone surprised me it sounds good and it is a lot easier to use when doing a voice over.
Thanks Nate, good to hear your experiences with the 044.
Hey Curtis, thanks for your info, its great help for a novice. Can you tell me if it is possible to record to lapel mics through an adapter into the one DSLR simultaneously?
You're welcome! Yes, two of the three of these audio adapters will allow you to record two lavalier microphones into a DSLR: ua-cam.com/video/B_0od_f_QkQ/v-deo.html
Cheers Curtis, really appreciate your advice!
For clarification, you prefer the Re20 for voiceover work like podcasting, would you also say it is a good audiobook recording mic as well? I'm looking for a replacement for my AT4050CM5 and keep thinking about ACX's general warning against dynamic mics. But they would certainly reduce the pops, esses.
For recording long-form content like audio books, I generally prefer large diaphragm condenser microphones. Dynamics generally sound less natural. Don't get me wrong - I use them for live streaming and podcasting, but I generally just prefer the sound of condensers for voice over long-form content like audio books. And if ACX recommends condensers, probably good to stick with their recommendation if the goal is to get hired. If you're getting a lot of pops and sibilance, might look at alternative positions for the mic. With my sibilant voice, I often move condenser microphones up vertically a bit so that the capsule is more in line with my nose vs. my mouth. That helps with both pops and sibilance.
That’s funny, I asked you a question yesterday and now you’ve uploaded this video which does answer some of the questions I had.
I’m doing a podcast with a friend and we are not yet at a point where we can afford two RE20’s and all that goes with it.
I have an old Beyerdynamic called M700 (looks like the shure sm58) which frankly sounds unbelievable. Has almost no hiss to it at all. The sound is just insanely pleasant and warm and works great with my voice. It doesn’t pick up any echo or room noise (I imagine the proximity bubble is small… if that’s how you call it) but unfortunately they don’t make them anymore and my partner has some wonky Samson that sounds meh, picks up every room noise known to man and is very echoy.
Do you know of an affordable podcast like mic that will be good in echoy rooms and has a small proximity bubble and sounds good?
Removing hiss in post seems to be easy… I can’t seem to be able to do much with the echo in Audition and in general his mic just picks every noise in his house.
Any suggestions?
Haha! Thinking along the same lines! Depends on your budget. The Shure SM-58 is a solid option if you've got a good preamp with plenty of gain (you'll need around +60dB). I also like the Audio Technica AT2005 for tighter budgets: ua-cam.com/video/EHgSC3C0pTw/v-deo.html
In a past video you said that you did not like the sound of the NT5, but after using it more time now you think it is the best low cost option for a microphone for dialogs? Even better option than the Samson CO2 in regards to audio quality? I need to buy one, but I want to make sure I make a good decision. Thank you very much and I am a fan of your videos.
Yes, I prefer the NTG5 over the CO2 in terms of audio quality. Note however that it has a cardioid pickup pattern which is not as isolating as a super-cardioid. This means that you need to get the mic very close to reject ambient noise.
I need to buy a microphone that performs well both outdoors and indoors, as for now I only use lavaliers (rode filmmaker kit) but these are a problem to get good quality. I was thinking about the NTG4 + or NT5, I know they are very different, but which do you think gives me much better quality and less noise in most conditions?
I would probably go with a shotgun microphone and plan to get some sound blankets as well to mellow out the rooms when recording indoors.
Thank you, Curtis, i really appreciate it.
Love it. Keep doing update videos like this!
Thanks Mitchell, will do!
Hope you can make a newer one of this, so many options these days!
Yes, it is in the to-do list.
I really like your style, you seem like that casual CEO who has a relaxed yet authoritative and trustworthy vibe about them, maybe it's also the white background? :P Great video.
Thanks Horacio!
Great stuff as usual Curtis. Which indoor boom stand do you recommend for use with the Audio-Techinca 4053b?
Thanks! If you're shooting a sit-down interview or talking head, just a basic boom stand like this works nicely. I've got a couple of them I've been using for years: amzn.to/2b8ZiNR
When I've got to set up for a wider shot, I use my graphite K-Tek boom pole on a century stand. That's a pricey setup but is very reliable.
Awesome. Appreciate the response.
As always an amazing and instructional video, keep with the good work...
Thanks!
Hello! Great videos. I am a yoga and fitness teacher and am looking to film videos in my home - what is the best microphone considering I'll be moving in all directions and wearing exercise clothing? Is voice over the best option (seems complicated)?
Also, what is the best microphone for outdoors for filming while moving and wind/etc.
Thank you!
+Leila J hi Leila, most yoga instructors either use a lavalier mic or an ear-worn cheek mic. The cheek mics sound better but some people don't want the mic to be seen so they prefer to hide the lavalier, usually under their top/sports bra. I use the RODELink wireless lavalier system with good results: ua-cam.com/video/CONhcUiyIXg/v-deo.html
This also works nicely for outdoor walking. Hiding the mic under the top layer of clothing does a nice job managing wind.
Best wishes!
Very helpful. Thank you Curtis.
Thanks!
Great video, as usual ☺
but you didn't mention the audio recorder
He uses the Sound Devices 633 recorder.
Thanks! Yes, I shot a longer piece discussing recorders and headphones in addition to microphones but it came out to almost 30 minutes so I had to cut it down. We'll be back with another episode covering audio recorders.
Cool Curtis! I have been promoting and using the AT4053b for years, and still love it. I have the NTG-2 and NTG-3 shotguns as well, and the NTG-3 is definitely my go to shotgun in every case. But recently I picked up a pair of Rode WS8 furry wind screens to use on my NT-55 matched pair outside, and I discovered that those furrys also fit the AT4053b (a little snugly). This is great because although the NTG-3 sounds amazing, it's long and heavy, and when mounted on my Sony FS5 camera, can feel clunky. So I tested the WS8 on the AT4053b outside in med-strong wind, and it did OK! In normal conditions and light breezes the WS8 is totally effective, and in stronger wind the rumble that gets through is very light, and totally removable. So that mic is my new on-camera mic most of the time. I used to keep my hyper indoor always, and my shotgun outdoors always, but now thanks to the WS8 I am enjoying the smaller size of the hyper. Check it out if you're interested. They are only 25.00 a pop. Cheers. As a side note I actually leave the low-cut in the AT4053b engaged all the time. I find it to be a slightly tubby mic, and the low cut does not result in any thinness in the voice. So that also helps with wind at no cost to the sound quality.
Thanks Chad, good to hear from you! Good to know about the WS8, I'll give that a try and good point on the low-cut on the 4053b!
Cool man! I get email notifications on all your vids, so I watch most of your stuff. Thanks for the work you do.
Great to hear that the NTG-3 and 4053b are the go to for you.
That same combination has been with me for about 3 years and I still love them. The ATs were from a sponsorship deal even though they wanted me to endorse something else, I felt I had to ask for the 4053b and surprisingly I was rewarded with one! Love them both!
Hi, could you tell me how much of a difference there is with the NTG-2 and AT4053b while recording indoors? I recently got the NTG-4, and was quite disappointed by how much of the reverb it picked up in my small room, so I was wondering if AT4053b is going to perform better in that case. Off axis pickup isn't an issue for me, as I'll always have the mic pointed towards the correct direction. I also watched Curtis' other video comparing the NTG 2 and AT 4053b, but that room had a very different characteristic than my room, it was bigger and less cubical.
Curtis, great video! I have used the RodeLink Wireless Filmmaker kit for over a year now and the lavalier microphone is starting to show serious wear near the bottom 3.5mm jack socket. I am looking for a replacement lavalier for this system in the sub $100 range that will work with the RodeLink kit. Do you have any suggestions?
Hi Brian! It is funny to me that there are really cheap lavaliers ($50 and under) then nothing of note until you hit about $300 it seems. If looking to stay under $100, I'd probably go with the JK MicJ 044 - the version with the sennheiser locking 3.5mm plug. You have already seen this, but if not, here's a review of this mic: ua-cam.com/video/RBxOLnVxg3A/v-deo.html I shot this before the RODELink was released but it'll work with RODELink.
Thanks for the quick response! Ordering the JK MicJ044 now, appreciate all of your help.
I hope that works out well for you!
Hi Curtis, I'm typically a one man band. If my main use for mics is interior dialogue with occasional on location walking and talking type shoots yet I already own an NTG-3 would I be better suited using the COS-11D or the AT4053B for the majority of my interviews? Correct me if I'm wrong but lavs sound more warm to me than boom mics in most applications especially in hard to control indoor environments without a sound crew.
Hi, If you're shooting on your own, you'll have a very hard time hand booming a mic and operating camera for a walk and talk so a lav mic sounds like the right mic for the job. Mounting an AT4053b (or any other mic) on top of the camera will generally not sound warm.
The Rode Videomic Pro seems popular because of its ability to pick up more on the lower frequency (mostly in a male voice). Though not accurate sounding, but it is preferred by many, including myself. It would be nice if you could do comparison with other mics that have similar sounding to this. More like other alternatives to the Rode VideoMic Pro. (More budget option maybe?)
Ah yes, we did that a little earlier this year: ua-cam.com/video/qRyUvMGVjis/v-deo.html This is obviously a very limited comparison, but I keep coming back to the RODE as my favorite choice. Thanks!
Thanks for the link Curtis. I have checked the vid. Rode Videomic Pro is still best at catching the lower frequency sound. Keep up the great work. Cheers.
Hey Curtis, you talk about recording from your lav mic directly into your mobile phone. What apps can you recommend on the phone to give the best audio? I'm an iPhone user. Thanks!
+Adam Jaffrey hey Adam, my favorites are ShurePlus Motive (free) and RODERec (paid).
+Curtis Judd Ah, thanks. I've had lots of problems with RØDE Rec, actually. You should check out Voice Record Pro. It's really good! appsto.re/au/d1KMG.i
Thanks, I'll check that out!
Hi Curtis just subscribed! Thanks for the great info. I have the Blackmagic P4K and the rode videomic pro. What’s the difference between just buying an adapter like the Rode VXLR or VXLR+ and connecting the videomic pro vs just buying an XLR mic like the NTG2? Should I invest in another microphone or just buy the adapter? Any sound difference with the adapter?
Hi Christopher, if the mic will be mounted on the camera, I would just run the VideoMic Pro into the 3.5mm input. The small improvement in audio quality will not make up for the position of the mic. Hopefully that makes sense. Beat wishes!
In what cases would an XLR mic be beneficial in addition to my shotgun mic? Was planning to use my videomic pro also as a boom setup.
When you will have someone booming the mic within 18 inches of the talent and especially when you need to run extension cables longer than about 10 feet is where you’ll find the biggest difference. The biggest issue is that camera mounted mics are usually too far from the sound source to sound great unless you’ve got the camera very close to the talent like for a vlog.
Curtis Judd I appreciate your help! Will utilize your other videos for continuous learning thanks again.
is there a preferred phone app that you use to record from a lavalier microphone?
For free, the ShurePlus Motiv app is good. For a price, the RODERec app is good.
I've been using Voice Record Pro with the smartLav+ lately, and then process in Audition on the computer. Seems to work pretty well so far.
Thanks John, I'll check that one as well.