How are Iga and Koka Ninja Different? ft. Iga-born Ninjutsu Sensei
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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0:00 Let's START!
1:36 Self Introduction
2:32 What is a Ninja?
4:29 Will the Ninja Commit Suicide?
7:22 Which Would Win, a Samurai or Ninja?
9:32 The Difference of Iga and Koka
11:15 The Relationship Between Ninja and Buddhism
13:52 How Did Shugenjya Have This Network?
15:31 In PartⅡ
15:54 剣術 Kenjutsu Performance
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It makes sense that, to a Ninja, a successful flight would be a victory. The Ninja escapes with his life, his knowledge, and one more chance to apply his skills.
Even the modern day Samurai cannot ignore the modern day Ninja. This will be cool to watch on top of the other great content Shogo provides.
The thing is that theres no person difference between ninja and samurai because they were samurai or ashigaru that were specialized in spying. Also they didnt wear black uniform (thats just silly why would you wear something that everyone could recognize you are spy?). There were no ninja villages nor clans. Iga and Koka were poor samurai clans that were specialized in espionage and scout so well so they were hired by other clans for this job (but laiter destroyed by Oda Nobunaga). Also ninjutsu/shinobi no jutsu add no more matrial art skills to the samurai. Samurai already trained matrial arts (kenjutsu, kyujutsu, sōjutsu etc.) and as addition he trainend in ninjutsu.
@Shadow Octopus 749 No problem. Sad truth is that not everyone wants to accept truth. But thats their problem... moust japanese dont understand this topic as well and imagine those black fantasy assasin or even nonsence like a naruto.
So basically Ninjas were smarter and kept themselves alive, seeing the uselessness in risking getting killed. Keep quiet and do the job. That will be your victory.
I like when real history and facts about Ninja are being spread around. They were such a purposefully mysterious class in feudal Japan, so it naturally makes you curious to learn more about them.
But it's a difficult subject since the topic is influenced a lot by myth and modern fiction, making it even harder to discern the facts from the myths.
you mean Ninjas dont werew orange and jump around on giant frogs?
@@darkservantofheaven Wear orange? ride on frogs? What rubbish.
They can summon meteors, ok?
Bushido during sengoku-jidai wasn't the same as during other periods from what I've learned.
Some actions that might be considered "dishonourable" in other periods were considered fully honourable during that period.
In Sengoku-Jidai, my impression is that honour was deeply tied to how well you served your Lord and completed missions successfully.
If completing a mission required assassinations or even shooting a man in the back, even samurai would do it. So it's easy to see why the services of the Koga and Iga ninjutsu practicioners were considered more "normal" in this period of vicious civil war, compared to other periods where it might be seen as disgraceful.
Good to see you return to the ninja lair, that guy was pretty interesting and I always believed he had more to give and say.
Lair? Izo ichikawa hos name😠
@@martin7002 Chill my guy, the word "liar", means someone who lies. But here the guy said "lair", which is another word for secret base. You probably misread it.
@@K-guy no you have dislexy i spellled lair not liar
@@K-guy I meant he should say dojo not lair
I love these interviews, they have helped me learn a lot about different Japanese arts. Also thanks for including the full Kenjutsu performance at the end, it was fascinating to see!
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Thank you for teaching us all of this ^^
Being a ninja keeps this dude super young!! Right out the gate I thought he was maybe late 30’s or early 40’s at most but he said he started the dojo in his 40’s… wow. He looks great
Truly fascinating. I'd certainly like to learn more about the less fanciful history of the Ninja.
• What did the common people (peasants, craftsmen, merchants, etc.) think about the Ninja during the different eras of Japanese history? Were they just thought of as mercenaries/soldiers/servants/etc. of the lords? Were they afraid of them? Or, were they really unknown until fiction & stories began to be circulated about them?
• Having the fiction being spread about them could be both an advantage & a detriment. Did the Ninja clan leaders of the past ever plant stories, myths & propaganda of their own - about the ninja - to confuse & demoralise their enemies?
I have read several histories about famous Ninja & was fascinated to learn that not only had there been great women Ninja who earned power & authority, but - after gunpowder weapons were brought to Japan by Europeans - there were several Ninja snipers who used rifles over great distance with extraordinary skill.
• Are there any famous classical plays or stage shows with Ninja characters? (I suspect that many talented actors & artists of past eras would have found the idea of secret Ninja clans & villages, just as fascinating as we do today.)
Can't wait for japan to open their border for tourism. Im definitely going to the Ninja dojo and store and Tozando. Thanks Shogo-Sensei.
That backhand grip and twisting the saya to the back during the Kenjutsu portion was so cool. I never imagined it to be executed like that.
The katas at the start were also Kuji-in.
The impression that I get, is that if the Iga and Koka clan ever fought, it was never anything personal, just business, aka they were hired by clients with conflicting best interests.
nothing personal, I was just paid to do it...
Yes. One of the biggest cases of that were the Invasions Of Iga in 1579 and 1581.
Oda Nobunaga, the famous warlord, was trying to reunite Japan. Around the 1560s, he had just conquered the Omi province. The warriors of Koka, who were the local samurai that specialized as ninjas in southern Omi, ended up falling under Nobunaga's control. Nobunaga then had his son Nobukatsu indirectly conquer the Ise province by marrying into the most powerful family in Ise, the Kitabatake. Come 1570s, most of central and western Japan was under Nobunaga's control... except for the province of Iga, which was underneath Omi province and to the west of Ise.
Like their allies in southern Omi, the local samurai in Iga were ninjas, but the difference was that they didn't serve a warlord at all. Nobukatsu tried to construct a castle in the middle of the province to start conquering Iga, but the samurai of Iga found out, so they snuck into the castle and burnt it to the ground. When Nobukatsu tried to retaliate, his men were surrounded by the Iga samurai hiding around the mountains and were being shot at by arrows, bullets, and mortars.
Nobunaga found out, was extremely pissed off at Nobukatsu, and then sent an even larger force to invade Iga in 1581, with many of the samurai on his side being from Koka.
This didn't really damper the relationship between the Iga and Koka samurai, because they later worked together to help guide Tokugawa Ieyasu through their lands in 1582 after Nobunaga died. Ieyasu then later hired 200 Iga ninjas and 100 Koka ninjas as his castle guards, as spies, and as low level samurai policemen.
I find a lot of value in these videos. They are entertaining, informative, and it’s kinda of cool to see that there are historically relevant things in Naruto, or Senran Kagura, etc. great stuff, Shogo!
I’m so happy you say so! We will be making more of these interview videos from now on✨
Shogo-san can you please do more interviews with other senseis from different Ryus or kobudos? This series is a great idea.
Don’t worry, I have a long list of people I want to interview😎
I hope you can look forward to future videos!
I love this Ninjitsu Sensei.
His sword Kata is very beautiful.
That sword display at the end betrays his claims of expertise.
The modern ninjas we have now are called "special forces"/commandos, I think. Thanks for this info!
a Scout Sniper or Reconnaissance specialist might be a more apt comparison. Traditionally a "Commando" is going to go in, do as much damage as possible, then disappear, whereas much like a Ninja a Scout Sniper or Recon Specialist is more likely to be sent out simply to gather intelligence or conduct a targeted assassination.
@@Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern Pretty sure ninja could do sabotage work just like commando does if they want or have to.
Excellent, looking forward to part 2!
Thank you very much for your videos. I really enjoy the content you make. It saves me from depression and anxiety. Gratitude!
So COOL! I knew only a little about these two styles, so getting a better in-depth look was awesome. Thank you for your teams hard work this past few videos!
Edit: I had to edit the comment to add--you both look SUPER cool here!
Thank for this video so much ! I will love to visit the Shiga and Mie prefecture !
Ichikawa Izo sensei is definitely my favorite guest so far. His skill and subtle humor are gold xD
His performance at the end looked so I clean. I loved watching that, it was beautiful.
What a wonderful and quite moving two part video, Shogo! It was especially fascinating to hear Ichikawa's opinion that ninja are heavily associated with children's entertainment in Japan. Overseas, ninja definitely have an exaggerated, mystical image from their portrayal in entertainment-but it's just often for teen to adult-age audiences, which is maybe why more overseas adults are later interested in learning more. After watching these videos, I'm more able to think about ninja arts as part of traditional culture that we can celebrate for its own unique qualities.
Love your content and your videos have been a really big help since I'm moving to japan from New Zealand 🤙
Absolutely fantastic video.
Ooh, this will be exiting! :)
I needed a video about iga and koka, thank you.
Nice to get some solid facts on ninja. Waiting for pt 2
Thank you so much Mr Shogo for this amazing video about our Martial Art,the Ninjutsu for me is very important once Ninja...Ninja forever.
Excellent video. I need to look up on Ninjutsu more (always thought just doing spy missions & fighting. Clearly, it's more than just those two things).
Very interesting interview - and Kenjutsu performance. It's amazing how quickly he was able to draw that blade and maneuver it for strikes from different angles. Blink and you'll miss it!
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I love this I'm glad finally after all this time it comes out who the were and how they lived. I've spent a long time as a young kid researching Shinobi and Samurai including the Japanese lifestyle even in ancient times as far back in the Jomon period.
@3:55 - to put this in more familiar terms to people in the West, especially the US like me ... ninja were one of early versions of SpecOps operators, the special forces of combat techs. Intelligence, guerilla warfare, assassination, sabotage, interdiction ... that's SpecOps, right there.
I live for this stuff
This is so amazing thank you for these videos I am interested in participating in Ninja training and activities this is great knowledge and now there is a place where foreigners like myself can train with a ninja this is awesome
This channel is so underrated bro. So concise, informative, and entertaining.
I wish I could sub more than once to bump that number up lol. Do you have any vids on the evolution of Samurai armour from, say, the Kamakura period to Edo period?
16:47 速い！(☉｡☉)!
Great interview! I thoroughly enjoyed the historical insights. Looking forward to Part 2!
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Domo arigato gozaimas for the video itoko!
I first saw Ninjas in the TV show Shintaro the Samurai and got amazed with their fighting techniques. Arigatoo Gozaimasu Yamaguchi san for these video series..
jonin chunin and genin reminds me of the structure of the mafia with bosses, captains and soldiers.
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Interesting.
I was really interested in martial arts as a kid (some 30 years ago) and for a time by the world of shinobi and ninja. I remember reading the life stories of a few, like one who having been captured, peed in his fundoshi which he then used it to escape by climbing over a wall. The author of the book added at the end that those we knew about were likely not the best, those who be the ones who remained unnoticed.
My interest for all this ended after a wrestling play with my younger brother. He managed to throw me down and trying to catch myself, I stabbed my hand on some shuko that were left on the floor. This ended up by a trip to the ER and looking for safer hobbies.
It's really fascinating that what we commonly know as a ninja isn't even nearly as cool as what ninja actually were
Well as some samurai were Ninja 🥷 I guess it is possible
Iga and koga were samurai clans
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this is really nice.. and I have a lot of question to ask ayy
Shugendo; To find supernatural power, save themselves & other thru religious training while training on and through steep mountain ranges. Too cool, thanks.
An Honour pleas do another video with him on the membership live stream
Estaria buena una traduccion al español, buen video saludos desde Panamá
The real question is how are they different from Hidden Leaf ninjas?
Stop relating to movies😠😒
@@martin7002 bozo🤡
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hattori hanzo is the well known ,i like him
Domoarigatogozaimasu!
I cannot access part two of this. Can you perhaps re-post it and put a new link on a pinned comment please Shogo and team?!
he forgot one thing when he answers about ninja suicide and that is capture and interrogation under torture. for that reason suicide was probably a very real option because that would be the worst possible thing for a ninja, to reveal who sent you, how many other ninjas there are what their plans are etc.
Let’s ask Shogo where we can get that cool mask he’s wearing
I wonder what he thinks of the actor Sho Kossugi?, and other actors who have played ninjas in movies/tv?
I just saw your video about what not to do in japan and you said you cant be barefoot on tatami, why is it allowed here? Curious
Is there a difference between the Shugenjya and the Ikko Ikki? Or are they the same?
Hmm do ninjas go to mission in groups? Or solo?
I have always heard of "Koga", and not "Koka", growing up. 🤷♂️ However, this makes my joke I'd tell my friends even better:
"I'm gonna go get a Koka~Cola down at the IGA store."
Where do the giant frogs they summon come from?
This thumbnail looks hilarious in the context of Ninja Fortnite
What do you guys think about Masaaki Hatsumi?
Genin chunin and Jonin all remind me of Naruto since Naruto is ninja do it makes since
Basically ninja are simular to mercenary from spec ops like the deaths head from BlackRock or other PMC.
I havet a question. The samuraj sword is bend, Them why is the ninja sword short and straight ?
What do you mean? His katana is curved too. Unless you are talking about Sai, that's not actually a sword or a dagger but a baton.
I always looked at it like this. The samurai were the soldiers and the ninja were the CIA or KGB intelligent agencies.
People still teach ninjutsu i wanna learn
Hi Shogo, sorry for writing this on this video, which is about an enterily different topic, but felt the urge to ask.
I know this question and topic is completely outside the reach of this channel, so if it's not the correct place to ask, i'm sorry.
My question was about the punishment / laws and legal system regarding juvenile crimes. I like to research true crime cases, and always felt regret on how the system failed Junko Furuta on 1989. I can't conceive how the main 4 torturers, are now free, leaving a good life, and also how all the people that were invited to see didn't contact police, or if they took part, didn't had a punishment. Also have questions regarding how they were able to use the name of the Yakuza as they pleased to get away with anything, these guys had a free pass to do everything they pleased, the higher ups were okay with their behaviour ? I don't know, but i would think that if some leader gets the info that a low rank thug is doing all of that to a high school girl using the name of the group as a badge, he would intervene at least (?
Again, sorry for bringing this topic to a channel that has nothing to do with this kind of topics, but really wanted to get the opinion from a citizen. I love you content, and would like to know about more topics like how scholarships systems are handled, most popular / needed jobs/carrers or how to make temari balls :D
Thanks !
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My mind literally screams, "Sekiroooooo!"
Is this clan the same as we hear on NINJA HATTORI?
Wait!! He did kuji kiri!
question, Iga and Koka can't be the only 2 ninja villages. they have to be at least a couple more.
The thing about ninja 🥷 is that usa 🇺🇸 government models it’s military special operations forces after the ninja 🥷
So is he from a ninja family/clan?
I'm curious, is there any history between the Ninja and the Yakuza?
Yakuza were originally formed from various groups of ronin. Ninja from the samurai caste who became ronin would have easily found new work as Yakuza.
What kind of outfit is Ichikawa-san wearing? Looks really comfortable.
@Shadow Octopus 749 thanks for the reply, I think I may wanna get something similar to wear at home. Or maybe wear outside if I’m feeling like making a statement 😅😂😂
Why don't you cover more popular media depictions of historical periods and characters and compare them to the real life? Would be interesting to see what anime/manga , TV shows, movies or games understand the period or characters well. If you don't feel too comfortable about your knowledge in those areas, you can collab with another youtuber and decide on themes or choose specific series with them.
Why are the KOKA/KOGA region ninjas depicted as being the "bad" guys in ninja films of the 60's 70's and the "IGA" ninjas depicted as being the righteous and honorable ninjas ? Where the film directors from the IGA region? What is it about the KOKA/KOGA region that makes them "bad" vs the "IGA" region?
Probably has to do with Hattori Hanzo being a samurai from Iga and serving as spy master for the Tokugawa.
English dub would be great since I mostly listen to yt videos
So many things are not recorded , as based on the sensitivity of spying , or assassin's activity. Samurai gave impression of honor , but leaders asked for many unethical things.
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Naruto in real life
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Fact: 1980s was the decade when the world had the most ninja.
Can they react to Naruto franchise 😐 ? And can you do react to Demon Slayer 🤔 ? Just don't watch the scene when Inosuke using stone for create his serrated Katana 🥴 ....
Why koga ninja always potrayed as villain while Iga is the protagonist?
Started ninja dojo when he was 40, he looks like 36
The greatest tactical ninja 🥷 movie 🎥 scene 🎬 of all time TheDarkKnight the tallest building in HongKong jumping off the sky scraper bursting through the window 🪟 and Actually using the ninjitsu technique of the rope kicking the swat team off the construction 🚧 site building open floor using the Darkness and Shadows 🥷 theatricality Deception 💨 are powerful 💥 agents against the un initiated of the 13 klans
Koka? Instant noodle? Not Koga?
You know he lying bout ninjas not doing shugenjya that’s like crack to a trailer park 😂
Ninja definitely did not commit seppuku. They don't have Conor to gain like samurai. Ninja were boiled alive and other horrible things when caught.
“Would Ninja commit Seppuku?”
I wish he would
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