WTTC 1999 Highlights: Liu Guoliang vs Ma Lin (Final)

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2013
  • The video was created for the ITTF by TTLondon2012 / ttlondon2012
    Review all the highlights from the Liu Guoliang vs Ma Lin in the Men's singles final match at the 1999 World Table Tennis Championships in Eindhoven, Netherlands.
    Thanks to Reflex Sports for use of footage from their videos. See tabletennisvideos.com for DVDs and tt-news.tv for online viewing of WTTC events in HD.
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  • @Galimah
    @Galimah 6 років тому +35

    Ma Lin was only 19 at this stage. on his was too the final he won over Kin Taek-Soo, Vladimir Samsonov and Jan-Ove Waldner

  • @benpork8533
    @benpork8533 10 років тому +73

    This video quality is better than now 2013.

    • @guywhodoesstuff1798
      @guywhodoesstuff1798 6 років тому +6

      Quality is better here than in 2017.......by ALOT

    • @andyzhaott
      @andyzhaott 6 років тому

      yup. That frame rate though.

    • @emirumishiokana
      @emirumishiokana 5 років тому

      oh yeah!!

    • @grandpapa31
      @grandpapa31 4 роки тому +3

      camera angle, video quality is still better here than in 2019

    • @guspauline7460
      @guspauline7460 4 роки тому +5

      Better quality than 2020 my man.

  • @johnpeterchua6148
    @johnpeterchua6148 8 років тому +43

    I wish ITTF would go back to this angle, better view of the game

    • @davidholzinger358
      @davidholzinger358 7 років тому +1

      me too

    • @DammitBobby
      @DammitBobby 7 років тому +6

      you are so right. the way they pan out after the serve is great too.

    • @reflexsports
      @reflexsports 2 роки тому

      This footage - upload was shot by Reflex Sports and was taken off our licensed (from ITTF) DVD. set from that event

    • @berat.74
      @berat.74 4 місяці тому

      Lol, so funny to see this in 2024

  • @MrJesseLabadlabad
    @MrJesseLabadlabad 10 років тому +11

    This Game is for LGL,despite the errors....with GREAT emotion at the end...hands off coach

  • @pluckoa34
    @pluckoa34 8 років тому +23

    What a talented! In that time Ma lin was just 19 years old but can defeat the great Waldner in semi final and then almost take a title in final. so sad for him :(

    • @thenewguy7527
      @thenewguy7527 4 роки тому

      @@dickn.ormous1064 that's why he got thrashed by Jiang Jialiang, Persson and Saive in WTTC semis/finals.

    • @HSHAZAM
      @HSHAZAM 8 місяців тому

      19-year-old Ma Lin could never thought that the trophy one step away would never come to him in this life time.😭

    • @Lol-ej2uh
      @Lol-ej2uh 7 місяців тому

      @@thenewguy7527 everyone loses!

  • @DerekVinten
    @DerekVinten 10 років тому +7

    Still a great game to watch after all this years and I have the full game on video

  • @lumm71
    @lumm71 10 років тому +20

    Good quality, ittf. Who was camera operator? Can you give him a call and ask for some advice?

  • @XtremeTableTennis
    @XtremeTableTennis 10 років тому +27

    Yeahh, that was the beginning of Ma Lin's career!!! Yeahh, Ma Lin is the best!!!

  • @ty0ung0s
    @ty0ung0s 10 років тому +33

    ★★★★★
    In retrospect, had Ma Lin won the fateful final here after spectacularly defeating Waldner 3 - 2 at the semi-final, he would have been the one who had 2 Grand Slam men’s singles titles (i.e. one each from WTTC and Olympics) to brag about instead of Liu Guoliang.

    • @Carimbo575
      @Carimbo575 8 років тому +9

      +ty0ung0s And he would probably be considered by many as the greatest of all times because of that. It is very odd how things turn out sometimes...

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 років тому +3

      I wonder what would have happened to Wang Hao's legacy had he won 1 or even 2 of his 3 Olympic finals...

    • @Galimah
      @Galimah 6 років тому

      ttverywhere yes, could have won all 3 plus 2 lost finals in wttc. that´s 5 major finals. a feat not even Wang Liqin could match. he only had 4 major finals

    • @somebose7395
      @somebose7395 8 місяців тому

      He had 6 finals hao. Won 09. Even ma long 5 only waldner has 6 wtc oly

  • @tszepicmoments
    @tszepicmoments 10 років тому +28

    Liu Guoliang was more emotional when Ma Long/Xu Xin/Zhang Jike scores a single point

    • @rgbreadrolls
      @rgbreadrolls 4 роки тому

      but at least he didn't break the borders lol

  • @saravantsiemreap9957
    @saravantsiemreap9957 10 років тому +34

    Young Ma Lin was more defensive than older Ma Lin.

    • @shuye6208
      @shuye6208 6 років тому +21

      Whoever plays LGL has to be defensive. Liu is like Supersonic.

  • @LetsPlayNowOrNever
    @LetsPlayNowOrNever 10 років тому +11

    who would have guessed that liu was going to be his trainer

  • @JorgeRiveraV1972
    @JorgeRiveraV1972 10 років тому +10

    I Love Liu's style. I wish i could be a penhold pips hitter.

    • @BiscoWho
      @BiscoWho Рік тому

      Bet you're too tall. You need to be about 5'9.
      I'm 6'2 and not Asian whatsoever. I'm a natural RPB Penholder though. And my coach is a Chinese TPB Penholder who plays short pips on a very light blade.
      I am forced to play almost exactly like Xu Xin at this height. He is the perfect height for TPB + Pips. And even in his 60's he is tough to get backed off the table, even with me cranking it at him. You have to have balls of steel and ultra consistency to play that TPB pips style. It's much easier to be consistent with the TPB close to the table when you're 5'9 or so. Plus, you also have to come with the flat attacks as soon as possible, which is also aided by being about 5'9

  • @sunil_bharti27
    @sunil_bharti27 7 років тому +7

    omg how good they're.I dont think if today's generation could match their standard
    Amazing! !

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 років тому +3

      They could. Just watch Ma Long vs Fang Bo 2015 WTTC.

    • @sunil_bharti27
      @sunil_bharti27 7 років тому +1

      tteverywhere 97 just watched that finale b/w ma long n fang bo.its amazing match
      actually their is difference in view angle

  • @WEZARD329
    @WEZARD329 3 роки тому

    この大会は好カード好ゲーム多くて面白いんだよな✨もっとこの大会の動画上げて欲しい!

  • @evgeniy_moscow_gooner
    @evgeniy_moscow_gooner 9 років тому +4

    Astonishing!

  • @Supravina
    @Supravina 7 років тому +2

    great match, great players

  • @chaukaihang
    @chaukaihang 10 років тому +13

    I cant believe ma lin is using rpb at that time

    • @andy7537
      @andy7537 3 роки тому

      In the age of small balls, rpb isn’t that advantaged because it sacrifices too much speed compared to regular block.

  • @leowang825
    @leowang825 10 років тому +3

    Its good to play close to the table

  • @Supravina
    @Supravina 7 років тому

    enjoy !!!

  • @rafaelshigemura
    @rafaelshigemura 2 роки тому

    Wondering if we'll ever see a WTTC final between penholders again!!

  • @godthinkun
    @godthinkun 4 роки тому

    it was like seeing 2017 wttc final

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 8 років тому +6

    that was some serious hard hitting from short pips

  • @musicforlifeofficial709
    @musicforlifeofficial709 7 років тому +2

    poor to.Malin, many times in the final Wttc but not get single one.

  • @ttime9947
    @ttime9947 5 років тому

    LGL serve looks cool :D

  • @yuhaosu6899
    @yuhaosu6899 5 років тому

    刘指导这个发球真的鬼,胳膊一档旋转全靠猜

  • @justinx9668
    @justinx9668 8 років тому +4

    Seeing this match, you can already imagine Ma Lin becoming world champion :(

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 років тому

      He never became World Champion though...

    • @justinx9668
      @justinx9668 7 років тому +1

      That's the point of the sad face

    • @malongsserve4735
      @malongsserve4735 7 років тому +1

      Does winning the Olympics in 2008 count?

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 років тому +2

      Nope, that makes him Olympic Champion. He would have had to win the World Championships.

    • @malongsserve4735
      @malongsserve4735 7 років тому

      Sure, however table tennis athletes in the Olympics are composed of athletes around the world therefore he is a world champion not a "World Champion".

  • @sergioaguilar2908
    @sergioaguilar2908 3 роки тому

    If Waldner would reached the final i dont think he could beat Liu Guoliang back then, it took more time for Waldner to adjust to Liu style, he was so fast and strong in both sides

  • @orionbelt1663
    @orionbelt1663 4 роки тому +1

    When pen hold lead the world...

  • @abedec5
    @abedec5 10 років тому

    does anyone know which rubber (FH) liu was using in this final?

  • @tianrongwang5061
    @tianrongwang5061 4 роки тому

    这俩位谁赢了就是大满贯(如果不影响之后的比赛的话)

  • @slax2501
    @slax2501 2 роки тому

    Liu was using Stiga Clippa on his forehand and Mendo on his backhand.

  • @zulfadhihjabdrahman5411
    @zulfadhihjabdrahman5411 7 місяців тому

    Wow,what a game..genius game by both ma lin & lgl .seldom watch malin being overpowered from his forehand attack & force to be in a defence position,but i guess the pips block from lgl cause the issue..

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu Місяць тому

    Guoliang was very aggressive and had Ma Lin way back from the table many times.

  • @davidholzinger358
    @davidholzinger358 7 років тому

    liu already used the reverse side i wonder wheter he thought that this style yould become that sucessful(wang hao,and now also xu xin)

  • @Nutelko8
    @Nutelko8 10 років тому +3

    If you dont now. Before 2001 it was used to play 3 sets to 21 points in one set

    • @DammitBobby
      @DammitBobby 7 років тому

      bump

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 5 років тому

      But why in this match there were 5 sets?

    • @janvonschreibe3447
      @janvonschreibe3447 4 роки тому

      @@ttime9947 Because for the final it's the best of 5 sets

  • @fingerboard03
    @fingerboard03 10 років тому +2

    Did Liu complete bis grand Islam there?

    • @gdounito
      @gdounito 10 років тому +1

      yes ! he won olympics in 1996 and world cup in 1995 i think

    • @dffgfgdff3736
      @dffgfgdff3736 7 років тому

      George D. no liu 's world cup was 1996. world cup 1995 is kong linghui.

  • @chank.y.6514
    @chank.y.6514 11 місяців тому

    🎉

  • @leowang825
    @leowang825 10 років тому

    Thats why Liu won

  • @reyiined8141
    @reyiined8141 9 років тому +3

    Ma Lin used a lot of RPB in this match o_O. I thought it was something he adopted after Wang Hao made it popular. I guess RPB dates back further than I thought

    • @liciying
      @liciying 9 років тому

      Wang Hao is not creator of rpb but the first rpb oriented player. Other players like Ma Lin prefer to hit with forehand.

    • @Davide24275
      @Davide24275 8 років тому

      +ReyIined but this is the just backhand tecnique , isn't it? i can't see any rpb

    • @DammitBobby
      @DammitBobby 7 років тому +1

      +Davide Auriemma just look closely at what color they use for their forehand and back hand and you can see them both using it

  • @gloubax
    @gloubax 9 років тому

    on ne voit plus les chinois hurler la victoire quand ils jouent entre eux ces dernières années... Quel match !

  • @igorponger1
    @igorponger1 6 років тому

    The 38mm ball looks too small, like a tiny pea. The 40mm ball was a good innovation by ITTF, till they inforced us playing the plastic. Plastic ball is some turd, sorry.

  • @marinosalilin6984
    @marinosalilin6984 Рік тому

    LGL is adorable. haha.

  • @Ilragazzodeoro777
    @Ilragazzodeoro777 5 років тому +1

    Who’s ma Lin? Who’s liu gouliang?

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 5 років тому

      The winner is Liu Guoliang

  • @liucarlgm
    @liucarlgm 7 місяців тому

    多半是让球,这种打5局一般都是输的那一方借此表示一下,我并不比你差。

  • @logosnaki
    @logosnaki 6 років тому

    SHORT PİPS RULES

  • @thedavidgradinaru
    @thedavidgradinaru 10 років тому +6

    Ma Lin best forever! I don't like Guoliang's annoying style. Reminds me of children playing close to the table, only to smash every ball. Stupid ending

    • @extraspinable
      @extraspinable 10 років тому +9

      Now he is the very coach of the beat team of the world, as you refer the children style. lol
      My mother hates me to play like Ma lin when I was a child, and I'm too don't really think play close to the table is a cool thing. thumbs up

    • @giorgione96
      @giorgione96 6 років тому

      stupid ending dar efficient.

    • @sebastianjosefsson3620
      @sebastianjosefsson3620 Рік тому

      I like his style. Most aggressive player ever. Every1 has to play on the defensive playing liu.