Do Stringjoy Orbiter Coated Electric Strings Feel Normal
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2022
- A Full Review of the Stringjoy Orbiter Coated Electric Strings
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I'm a huge StringJoy fan. I pretty much use their strings exclusively. So I'm not surprised to hear that they got this 'coated' thing right. Everything else I've tried from them has been superb. They're really nice folks as well (in terms of customer service, etc).
Great review/analysis! Appreciate the time and patience you gave it. Sounds like Scott's crew has hit another home run.
Hi Dylan & Leslie have a wonderful Thanksgiving’s and weekend again love ❤️ all the hard work you both put into your channel. Love the after no guitar show also its a lot of fun!
I just picked up a set of Stringjoy Orbiters (10-48) yesterday, and will install them today on my Walnut The STRAT. I’m a long-time user of Stringjoy Nickel Wrap, which I love. I tried the Pure Nickel Broadways, but they were too soft sounding. I don’t normally use coated strings, but decided to try the these. We’ll see. Thanks for your detailed review!
Thank you Dylan, God bless you for all you do.
Been seeing ads all over ig. Thanks for the review. I’m gonna try them for my acoustic and my electric!
Just tried the 9-42’s… have a big festival show coming up.
They are astoundingly good.
I like Elixir Nanowebs myself; I'm one of those people whose perspiration kills regular strings, though it doesn't happen as fast for me as some others who have commented! That said, I plan to try these - I like the "in-between" gauges Stringjoy offers and would be quite happy if they work well for me.
I love Elixers strings ! I first used them because they came on my Taylor guitar and now I use mostly them and D'Addario on all my guitars.
Been thru most brands,uncoated and coated,found Curt Mangan pure nickel strings are my personal favorites.
I wish Elixir made balanced sets like Stringjoy. I love SJ and understand the sheer slickness of them is a polarizing thing but for them it's a holy grail string. They sound great to me and my sliding and bending is effortless. Never found them to be dead or dull sounding. I think anyone that really plays the hell out of their guitar can appreciate the feel of Elixirs. If they do buy strings en masse from other manufacturers, I wonder if I could send them a huge order lot of SJ to coat for me. That would be amazing! Thanks for the informative video.
I have super sweaty hands when playing so coated is a must. I have been using mostly elixir for many years but always looking for improvements. Have daddario on a couple of guitars and they seem pretty comparable. Ive never had the elixir problems you described. I certainly dont rip on my strings with a metal pick though. I dont think being able to slide easier is bad; they dont feel slimy to me. Maybe its because my hands are so sweaty. Will give these a try. Thanks for the informative review.
My E-II arrow came with elixir strings, and I absolutely hated them. I've mostly used 9-42 D'addario or ernie ball for the last 20 years, but lately I've been really liking standard Fender 10-46s. Thinking about trying the bullet end strings in my strats, even though I know they're probably just a gimmick
Just got a guitar and Elixirs were shipped. I really like the slimminess.
Great video! it does look like you never went back and talked about the SG. Was that because it would have been redundant?
One of my customers pointed me to Stringjoy strings. I was pleasantly surprised by their quality.
I bought a couple sets of these. I like them. Early on i tried coated sets n found um sorta dull or something. I like the stringjoy but um gonna wait to see how well they last before i really go for them as they cost a lot (like 20$ a set) so if they last sure but it needs to make up for the cost
Ive played elixer nanoweb strings for 20 years, regular strings feel weird to me now.
Try Rotosound nickel on steel, a fraction of the price.
Same!!!! I’ve recently tried the obtiweb and was really impressed how “in the middle they are” between coated/non coated. Just ordered two sets of orbiters and I’m really curious to see how they stack up.
I switched from 10-46 to the SJ balanced lights, which it sounds like you're using. For one, the G-16 string sounds less overpowering than the 17. Bending 6ths is a lot easier. Bought my first 3 sets of orbiters, and so far, they're still sounding fresh. Going to get some 13-59s to try on my JS. We'll see.
I just ordered 6 sets...should arrive tomorrow
I love the slick feeling of elixirs. I don't understand why you'd want more friction and string noise.
If I ever have regular strings on, I oil them so they don't feel so dry and grabby. We polish our frets to within an inch of their lives to achieve a smooth bend. Slippy all the way man!
Seriously. Make the guitar easier to play, not harder!
Can you get a set in the EU? I must say I quite like the Elixir coated strings, recorded with them and the sound was excellent, but would like to give these a try.
I love Elixers, because they are so slick feeling! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the DR coloured strings. I’d be willing to bet the farm that you would hate them 😂
Unfortunately, String Joy aren’t an option for me, they aren’t available here in Australia.
Yeah those colored strings suck worse than elixirs. That’s coming from a guy who feels the same way Dylan does about elixirs.
Yeah the slickness and less "string talk" of Elixirs are 2 positives beyond the fact that they are long lasting. And it's nice that they have 3 coating options.
I'll try these Orbiters out of curiosity. Stringjoy makes nice stuff from my experience.
@@piptyson5512 I'd like to try the String Joy's but they aren't available in Australia
@@officialWWM they are, just look around for online stores. I know Deluxe Guitars have them.
edit: you can also just get custom sets straight from Stringjoy and ship them over. (i’m also Australian)
@@cactus-mcjacktus that sounds like a very expensive option :/
Can’t wait until these are available here in the U.K. Edit - just ordered some. Even including shipping etc a three pack posted is about the same price as a three pack of Elixirs from my local shop.
I started using elixirs mainly because my hands sweat when I play and elixirs always seemed to last the longest. Over the years I found the optiweb were the better choice between the poly and nanoweb. They have a natural feel and they last a while. Just ordered a pair of the Orbiters to test them out. I tried a set of the non coated string joys before. They sounded good but they didn’t last as long as Elixirs. Hoping the orbiters will be my new favorite strings
Are these similar to those Daddario coated strings? I have those on my acoustic, have had the same set for over a year, just recently put the electric set on my jag and I love how slick they feel
I've tried Elixir's and thought they were sorta unremarkable if not a tiny bit dead. Then again, I've tried Strigjoy Broadway's and Signatures a couple different times and didn't get that "new string" vibe I normally get. I guess at some point I'll give these Orbiters a shot. Those photos are convincing.
Dylan, have you looked into and found out that the coding on the strings is going to break less at the bridge shuttle pieces I'm curious to know if the coating actually protects the strain from cutting into it from all the the nickel plated bridge saddle pieces are like rager ads micro pieces that are just cutting into the string so I'm not I'm worried if the codeine will protect that all the burrs that are from the nickel plated on the birds are cutting into the string so maybe the coating will help protect the strings maybe yeah have you looked into that hit me back up if you if you found the answer
Totally forgot all about the SG lol. But cool video. I’ve always hated Elixirs and could just never pinpoint why. But this totally explained why I hate them.
Have you ever tried Rotosound nickel on steel? They aren't coated, maybe treated in some way, but they're super smooth, and I used to play only elixirs on electric. I'd say they're polished but I know they're not.
I use Curt Mangan coated strings for the same reason as they feel like a regular string. I tried Elixirs before and could not stand the slimy feel or the flaking.
In my place, Elixir optiweb costs three times than regular EB slinky. Optiweb is the only Elixir that I like. Even then, I decide not using them anymore because I prefer changing strings three times and get fresh string tone each time than using the same set of Elixir for the same amount of time. I'm a bedroom player with dry hand so I can do that.
That’s a wicked looking knife. I wouldn’t cut towards myself with a thing like that.
I have extremely sweaty hands. Non coated strings are dead after an hour of play… not even joking. They may as well be made of rubber.
I just tried the orbiters, and they only lasted for about an hour. I assume it’s because the acidic sweat and dirt gets between the windings, making the coating useless. Elixr costs the whole string, which I know sounds counter productive, but with some kind of magic, they last me for a month or more!! I’ve tried other brands too.
I honestly wish I could actually play a “real string” lol
I've tried the Signatures, the Broadways and the Orbiters. The Orbiters don't feel normal to me. I'm feeling a lot of friction when sliding up and down the wound strings. The Signature Balanced strings feel smoother. Both sound balanced. I think the Broadways are the most unbalanced sounding. There's a huge difference in sound between the wound and plain strings. I also tried a set of the Signatures with a wound G, but the G sounded dull compared to the other wound strings.
As far as I know, there are two companies applying coating after wrapping: Elixirs (with patent) and Raw Dogs (Chinese company, so they doesn't care for patents). The main difference is, the micro filths from sweat or another dirt doesn't stay on Elixir type coated strings, while on EB, D'Addario, etc it goes between winding gaps. I've tried all of popular coated sets (while I have super sweaty hands, and regular strings don't last 3 days with me without rust showing up) and Elixirs are the only ones that lasts forever.
That's true, that they worn out with picking, everything does. When it's too much, you just change them.
You don't like slickness? Just get OptiWebs ;)
This is not correct
I am in the exact same boat. I’ve used Elixrs for years. I have extremely sweaty hands. Non coated strings are dead after an hour of play… not even joking. They may as well be made of rubber.
I just tried the orbiters, and they only lasted for about an hour. I assume it’s because the acidic sweat and dirt gets between the windings, making the coating useless. Elixr costs the whole string, which I know sounds counter productive, but with some kind of magic, they last me for a month or more!! I’ve tried other brands too.
I honestly wish I could actually play a “real string” lol
I play coated strings because I HATE hearing my fingers slide across the texture of non-coated strings as I move from one cord to the next. Do these strings cut down on that?
I just described to your channel!!
I play Optiweb , no frays , but i want to try stringjoy
You should try the optiweb elixir
You're right, the Optiweb feel good and sound very good.
Dylan should try them too.
I don't like all of Elixir's other coatings and they don't sound good either, I have to agree with Dylan here.
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Feeling very vindicated. I SWORE with a friend of mine that elixirs had the same longevity as Boomers and thats why I just didn’t like them! Now I know why.
Excellent content man! Thanks!
Do coated strings on bass or guitar mess with the grounding ?
Not at all.
I see this video is a month old, are they still holding up or did they start to rust?
Not at all. Still on the guitar and fantastic
@@DylanTalksTone cool, I'm gonna buy some now
Do they conduct electricity? This could be hudge problem for coated strings. I never put elixirs in my bass because thay don't conduct electricity, meaning no grounding while playing.
None of this is true
@@DylanTalksTone Maybe bass strings are different, these elixirs I had didn't conduct electricity where coating was applied.
I like to put 9-42 on Fenders and 10-46 on Gibsons, but Stringjoy sells a 9.5-46 and a 10-48. Haven't been able to find out why. No interest in messing with my nut.
Sorry, wait, didn't catch it... is there a coating on the String Joy wrap wire? What is the coating made of?
Is that coating toxic, via skin contact, via mucus membrane, orally?
Is it more or less toxic than nickle?
I have that body khemestry, or maybe just skin chemistry, that eats metals (other than gold). I literally cannot wear any metal other than gold, I'll just eat it away, the metal will literally dissolve, and it'll turn my skin green, gray, blue depending. I looked at an old metal watch that I wore for a few years, the band was stainless steel which seems fine, but the watch body was brass, coated with a very thick layer of some type of metal, but my skin dissolved the thick coating metal, and the brass looked like bread, or swiss cheese, it was eaten away with semi-spherical voids in the metal, literally. I can't wear any jewelry actually, only silicone, gold, or stainless steel rings or watch bands... My skin is REACTIVE!
After 5-6 hours of playing regular Ernie Balls or NYXL's, my fretting hand finger tips, like all the way to the first knuckle (from the end of the finger!) is metallic... like not just grey, they're fully grey, but with a slight metallic sheen to them they're so metalified.
I can't imagine all that nickle being worked into my skin is any good for me. If I rub my eye, nose, ear... how much nickle is making it into my body? If I do this every day? If I eat something with my metal fingers?
If the outer wrapped wire is coated on the String Joys, does it prevent your fingers from going metallic? I'd really like to know, and know what the coating is made of, I'd hate to avoid one toxic heavy metal, and introduce another toxic plastic, or whatever it is that coats the String Joy!
According to Stringjoy, the coating (on the wrap wire only) is some kind of enamel.
I've never tried coated strings
Where did you get that hat?
The Gibson garage in Nashville
i just put some on my guitar, can these strings me wiped?
I broke elixirs consistently until I switched to DR sunbeams
No wonder I hate elixirs. I hate boomers and coating. I’m going to try the orbiters. I love Stringjoy
I wanna know how the hell you play .13's on your acoustic and freaking .09's on your electric??? Holy hell, that's a massive difference lol
You ignore what the internet tells you … and you do what you want.
Also, I think a lot of your complaints are about Polyweb Elixirs, NOT Nanoweb Elixirs. I also hate Polywebs, because they coat the entire string as a whole, but Nanoweb Elixirs are made the same way that these new Stringjoy Orbiters are, with the outer wrap wire being coated before it's put on the core. I DESPISE Polyweb Elixirs, but I LOVE Nanoweb's, and have use them exclusively on my acoustics for well over a decade now. I'm willing to bet that if you tried Nanowebs, you might have a very different experience with them vs. Polywebs.
I bought both this week. I have tried them before as well. Do t like ‘em
@@misterbeane what about optiweb?
Fields and sounds a little different are pure nickel
You need to get to work designing 7,8 and 9-string P90 PICKUPS instead of messing with that "DO" of yours every hour of the day! Not a suggestion, a demand!
Not a poop emoji.
Apperantly the coating is some kind of enamel.
Total non-sequitur... That PRS headstock is just ugly, specifically on that Silver Sky. I like the similar but better, rounded, Ibanez headstock. But the PRS headstock has such bad Feng Shui! Such a bad vibe, if you'd prefer! Just so ugly that pointy, jaggy headstock with the rounded/fluid/hydro[/]psychodynamic Fender Strat bodyshape.
YECH!
It may not be a Fender headstock, but it beats the heck out of a Tyler. There's one I just cannot get used to.
...ESP has the best looking headstock...
Fortunately I don’t care. I hope you enjoy whatever guitar you have.
@@DylanTalksTone Well said.
It's totally subjective! Btw: I don't see the headstock while I'm playing, so...
Agree. PRS in general are ugly guitars.
Dylan,
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