when parents don’t approve with Mandie and Danae
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Today we sat down with social media content creators Danae Hays and Mandie Kaii. After meeting this couple at the Nashville Celebrity Softball game earlier this year, we really wanted to get to know them better and thought what better way to do that then by having them on the podcast! Danae makes hilarious videos on Tik Tok for her 2 million followers and her wife, Mandie, creates content about fashion, fitness and everything in between. We had deep conversations about judgement and religious trauma, and we also had conversations where we laughed until we cried. There's a little bit of everything in this episode and we are so honored to have had them on our show!
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Haven’t watched in a while. This episode brought me back. Love this!
I loved this interview! Mandy and Danae are young, adventurous, thoughtful, and project positivity! I hope their blessings continue.
Was thrilled and honestly surprised to see Mandie and Danae on the podcast today! Unfortunately, however, am not surprised by the comment section.
I love that you finally had someone from the LGBT community on. I’ve always wondered if y’all were friendly to us, and this is refreshing to see. ❤ good people all around.
Dang if you do, dang if you dont. I am a Christian, and get so disappointed when Christians are the most judgmental people out there.
I love you guys and your podcast.
To tell people the truth is love. Sin is sin. There is no where in the Bible that supports homosexuality in any faith. People who claim to be Christian need to read the Bible front to back. If the guests aren’t Christians they are not held to that standard. The disappointment comes from Andrew and Shawn being Christians and not addressing that they either agree with or disagree with this sin. It comes off as they do. Like I said, non believers are not held to the Bible standards and have free will to live as they choose. But if you are asking a Christian person what they believe, it’s directly from the Bible.
It’s not unloving. As believers, you have to be careful walking the line of the word and the world. Just doesn’t work that way. Doesn’t mean you have to be unloving.
Totally resonate with their story, thanks for giving this message a platform 🙏
This! As an ally that goes to an affirming church, we need more of this.
Folks please be respectful. Even if you disagree. Especially if you went straight to the comments section.
Such a great interview!!
Thank you for this podcast episode Shawn and Andrew!
" I WISH YOU WERE MY SISTER DANAE! " (PTSD) I HAVE NO SELF WORTH-(Straight)You ladies are an perfect couple. Your funny, hardworking, and you give great tips on life, You compliment each other.. Congratulations ladies and I wish you both many many lifetimes of love, friendship, laughter, and happiness ❤ Lead with empathy and just listen to others! 🙂 👍❤ 🙂 👍
Please say there is a part 2 of this podcast. It has been one of the top 10 best ones. Blessings!
Great interview I follow Mandie & Danae so love them both so much, thank you for this episode.
So awesome.
Listened to this driving to work yesterday!! Just love Danae and Mandie and had no idea they were in Nashville!! Great interview!!
This comment section sucks lol Shawn and Andrew should address this hateful comment section of “Christians” 😅😅
I haven't left a comment yet... 😊 but last I knew, everyone should get a voice even if it's different from how we feel ourselves ❤
. . . How is it right to shut everyone else's voice off and only have one side sounding out? It's a part of life for people to all have their own opinions... 😊
@@kindnessmatters4068 being hateful & having an opinion and sharing it are VERY different 👍🏻
Christ teaches to love ALL people. You don’t have to agree with the lifestyle but need to love the person!!!! So quit with the hateful comments!
Look at you momma!! Lookin good 🎉❤
I’ve actually always thought Shawn and Andrew didn’t support the LGBTQ+ community. I clicked so fast when I saw this bc I was so pleasantly surprised to see this upload from them. Good for you, S&A.
Great episode. For those of you saying you are disappointed… get over yourself.
Don’t be the typical hypocritical/ / how holy art thou “Christian” 😂. We are all made in the image and likeness of God. And it’s only Gods place to judge, so keep your useless opinions to yourself.
Or as my parents would say “having an opinion on someone else’s lifestyle is like being upset that the person infront of you at Subway didn’t order the same sub as you….”. Mind your own business and don’t yuck someone else’s yum, it’s doing you zero harm.
This is so refreshing to see what TRUE "love all people" leadership looks like 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤
MY DAD WAS MY BIGGEST CHEERLEADER AS WELL, MY MOM HAD A VERY HARD TIME WITH IT, BUT WE ARE BEST FRIENDS NOW!!
Listening to someone else's feelings is the most that that person loves the most, when you have a spouse that'll just sit there and listen to you that makes you love them more just to have them there when your going through trauma or anxiety it's good to have that person to sit and just listen even if they don't give you answers they can't you gotta have them to just sit and listen without getting mad with you.
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Shawn and Andrew, I'm so happy you brought on a Christian gay couple and are helping show the world that the two are not opposite! I feel so strongly about that as a Christian, and it's so encouraging that more people are seeing that ❤️
Yesssss!!!
It is flat out wrong to encourage lifestyle choices that are against God's instructions.
(Just like it would be to promote stealing, lying, sex outside of marriage, ...)
If a person is truly following Jesus, as Shawn and Andrew have claimed and appeared to be
thus far, we are called to speak the truth in love.
To edify a habitual choice that God calls an abomination is WRONG.
A person is for God, or they are not.
One foot in the Word while the other is in the world
fits into being 'lukewarm,' which God tells us He spits out.
So ...
NO.
Encouraging this behavior is not okay.
Imagine God's disappointment to have people who claim to follow Him
begin to lift up such choices that He is clearly NOT for.
As the Christian you say you are,
please do not allow yourself to be deceived into believing this is what God wants.
Pray about it.
@@Julie-kb3mo lol. Bye Karen.
@@Julie-kb3mo I refuse to encourage Sean and Andrew to shun fellow Christians as you would have them do. I refuse to have my brothers and sisters in Christ, shoved back into a closet for your comfort. I refuse to promote hatred under the guise of religion as you are doing. You are an evil person. Perhaps Sean and Andrew are not your kind of Christians and you should find someone else to follow.
EXACTLY!!!!
Just beautiful! I love, love!
Thanks for listening Peggy!
Such an amazing episode and incredible couple!!
Enjoyed this one! Sad to see such terrible comments though
As believers, it’s not judgmental to be a little shocked by this episode. If you know, you know. It’s not about being unloving. It’s about being bold in faith and what you represent. You can love people and still stand for truth. That is all.
Well said
God is still speaking. And he wants you to love everbody.
“There is no hate like Christian love”
Absolutely!! So much judging😢
It’s not unloving to stand firm in your beliefs.
But how is it judging? When as Christian’s we should all follow the Word of God and The Bible clearly states a homosexual marriage is wrong. How is it judging? It’s called holding people accountable. You can’t go through life only doing what ‘feels right.’ So you’re saying a person who killed someone else because it felt right, won’t be held accountable in court? Wrong. You’ll be held accountable for how you lived on this earth and simply put, this is not the Lord’s way. Put selfish desires away and follow Him. Be single if you want but turning to the same sex is a sin.
Shawn and Andrew, thank you for bringing this podcast to us. This is what real life and real human interactions should look like. If more people could sit down and have respectful and enlightening conversations like this, our country would be in a much better place. ❤
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As a Christian mother of a daughter living in the alphabet world this deeply saddens me. I cannot waiver in my belief in God’s holy word. I still love my daughter and her partner. But cannot condone their relationship. Their eternal future is of greater importance than this temporary one. Carnal Christians will become casualties. Jesus is coming back soon. This world is falling apart. Praying for you and your family.
This would in fact mean you don’t love your child…. If you don’t love people the way they come to you, then go lock yourself in your non worldly house and step.
I follow them on Tik Tok . Love Them
I LOVE LOVE LOVEEEE Mandie & Danaes story seriously.❤️🔥🥹
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It's interesting that only people's comments who lifted up homosexuality got 💕s from you,
Shawn and Andrew.
How about giving 💕s to those who are being bold for God in expressing His Truth
and the danger and error in edifying such a choice as this lifestyle ?
Please open your eyes and minds to what you seem to be promoting here.
Are you for God ?
Please make this clear.
Are you serving God or the world ?
Andrew and Shawn, y’all say y’all are Christian and y’all waited until y’all said “I Do!” Yall consummated your marriage. Yall know how good and powerful that is, and yet y’all are going to acknowledge that homosexuals can be married to each other? Seriously?
Nobody can out love God. We are human beings. We cannot do better than Him. God IS love and is a God of order. He didn’t just declare marriage to be man and woman. He literally created it that way, Gen two: 24-25; 1 Corinthians six: 16. People tell Christians to get over themselves? Human beings need to get over themselves.
“Today, some Christians are content to merely exist until they die. They don’t want to risk anything, to believe God, to grow or mature. They refuse to believe His Word, and have become hardened in their unbelief. Now they’re living just to die.” - David Wilkerson
“Too many people want a God that saves them, but doesn’t change them. The Gospel does not work like that.” - Shane Pruitt
I was trying to catch up on episodes since I’ve missed in life’s craziness but man this sucked to see show up.
I think as Christians it’s one thing to accept others choices and not treat people who are in different walks of life differently but it’s another to support and broadcast something that is just so against gods word.
this is really sad. we need to be loving towards all, as Christians. At the same time we can't condone "marriage" that is not marriage as God created. shawn and andrew are failing as Christians by condoning this. Mandie and Danae are precious souls from God and deserve all of the love and the truth of who God calls them to be. Tolerating sin is a grave disservice to both of them. We all have to pick up the crosses of the sins we fall for, and these women should be encouraged to pick up the cross of their disordered desires (we all have disordered desires) and strive for holiness in Jesus. Shawn and Andrew, please repent and do better. This is no longer family friendly content. Family was created by God with a man and a woman and their children. Children have a right to their mom and dad together in true marriage. You should be ashamed to call this "familymade".
The Christian God did not create marriage. It existed long before Christian theology
To all of you that seem so shocked and disappointed. I believe the clear message here is communication and love for another human. Face it this is the world that WE have allowed to be the acceptable norm. If you want to quote the Bible it says we should love and have compassion for all living things. No where does it say that we are the judge and that we should shame those with different lifestyles than the majority. They will answer for themselves at the pearly gates just like you and I. But if this couple, who doesn’t shove gay down anyone’s throat, could be an example for those that do and open their eyes how to live their lives just as quietly as the rest of us then more power. No where did they get praised for what they are but rather for who they are as they bring comedy back into this messed up world, show love and communication, that we scared disillusioned turn a blind eye republicans have become.
I partially agree with you, lrbyOCD.
You've stated what God references....
We are not to condone what this twisted world now views as 'acceptable norms.'
Doing so has brought us to our current plight.
We are IN this world; not OF it.
This means that WHILE we are accepting of others,
it most certainly does NOT mean to approve what God is against.
He is for loving one another,
yet this does not mean condoning actions that He teaches are wrong.
He is against lying.
He is opposed to murder.
He is against sex outside of marriage.
He is not for homosexuality.
He is against stealing.
Just because many people do or don't live a certain way,
it certainly doesn't change what God says is right.
Amen love what she said. Everyone deserves to live their authentic life. People just need to quit using their sexuality as their identity.
It would be easier for the LGBTQ+ community to live their lives normally if they didn’t constantly have to fight to live a normal, safe life. Our world is heteronormative. Also, have you seen this comment section?? When a hetero couple comes on, no one comments that they’re ’in your face’ about their relationship or that they make their sexuality their identity. No one.
I dearly love many people in the LGBTQ+ community. I’ve given birth to a couple of them. The vast majority want nothing more than to be able to live a life where their sexuality *isn’t* a topic of contention. If the hetero community, specifically extremely religious people, wouldn’t get up in arms when their sexuality was brought up, it would be no more an issue than heterosexuality. How many times have couples been on this podcast (or any other) and told the story of how they met and fell in love, etc.? No one says they’ve made their heterosexuality their identity! It’s a double standard. Your sexuality *is* part of your identity. Your relationship status *is* part of your identity. It’s similar to black people wanting to be able to use the same facilities as white people or wanting the same opportunities as white people. It’s similar to women wanting to be treated equally rather than being treated like property. Both groups were told to get back in their place and stop causing trouble. They just wanted to be equal and free and safe. I believe the same is true in the case of the LGBTQ+ community.
To my fellow Christians: lead with empathy (as Mandie so beautifully says in the episode). If you'd like to know why there are some Christians who support gay marriage (and yes, we read our Bibles), and you are willing to approach this topic with an open mind, I highly recommend reading Torn by Justin Lee. You may not come to the same theological conclusions as he does, but you may come away with more empathy/kindness.
To Mandie and Danae: thank you so much for being vulnerable and bravely sharing your story. Danae, I'm sorry for the religious trauma you've experienced and for the ongoing pain of estrangement...bravo for making choices that preserve your mental health and for doing the hard work in therapy. And it is clear that Mandie has been an incredible support.
Shawn and Andrew, thank you, thank you, so much for this episode.
So disappointing. Given an opportunity to trust God and proclaim His word boldly, but choosing to spread deception and confusion that pulls other people away from God’s peace that passes all understanding. That’s not love.
Imagine spending your entire life being scared of an ancient murder, that was apparently out of love 😅 and then sacrificing the only time on this earth you have to your sky daddy because someone told you about a book that was written by other men, and now you should live in fear of “god” 😂
Whoa. 😦
This is an interesting conversation to listen to.
It is brave to have such guests that open the floor to this discussion of controversy...
Homosexuality.
The fact that God is referenced and quoted here gives way to BOTH sides,
and the 'not so comfortable' Truth should also be shared/ spoken of.
God does not condone this lifestyle choice.
Plain and simply.
Straight or homosexual, there is a deep, individual relationship to be had with God.
I'm thankful Danae is now in one with our Creator.
He loves us even as the sinners we are,
yet He does NOT love and approve of sinful choices we make.
Making mistakes/ messing up is inevitable.
He grants mercy and grace, and He forgives, over and over.
It's choosing a lifestyle of habitually living in disregard of His instructions
where the danger is prevalent.
While we are to love everyone,
this does not mean to edify behavior and choices that God says are an abomination,
which He says towards the homosexual lifestyle.
I hope that since you two chose to have these guests on,
you will be open to going deeper in discussion about your faith
and what you will promote on your channel.
I am in no way indicating that homosexuals should not be welcome;
I am simply saying that given your biblical beliefs that have been shared thus far,
I hope you will be willing to get uncomfortable and go further with this topic. 💙
I like how you explained this. I was a bit surprised by this after what they said with the Contes about being bold in their faith. I think this can be dangerous if we are walking the line of the word and the world.
@@ashleysevert
Thank you. 💙
I appreciate your supportive words.
I agree this can be dangerous territory.
My hope is that Shawn and Andrew are willing to go deeper
in discussion with regards to this topic.
It will be uncomfortable, yet they opened the door here.
Thank you again for backing me up,
and moreso, for standing up for God's Truth.
💚
Why are you listening if you are so homophobic? God loves EVERYONE .
@@user-bx8oe7zk2z I’m not listening and I’m not homophobic. No one said he doesn’t love them. That’s an attack on us for standing firm in what we believe. God loves everyone, but He is clear on what He desires for us as His creation. You can’t pick and choose as a believer. He is clear.
@@ashleysevert the most psychologically damaging thing someone ever taught me: you are born evil, dirty and sinful. But if you agree that an ancient murder is your fault. The one who loves you most in all the world won’t have to torture you for being so evil. You’re in a cult, not Christianity 😊
Andrew and Shawn read your Bible cover to cover. Telling the truth is love. We can not pick and choose what we agree with from the Bible. I do want to be clear, if these women are not Christians they have free will to live as they please. If they are Christian and you are Christians you are to lovingly tell them what the Bible says. If they ask what you believe you are to truthfully share what the Bible says. No where in scripture is homosexuality condoned. It is listed with all other sins.
”Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.“
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV
God’s word is clear. Jesus calls us to deny ourselves and pick up our cross. You can’t be a Christian and still actively living in sin. Following Jesus requires repentance. This isn’t about being judgmental, this is about speaking the truth. If they are claiming to be followers of Jesus, then it would be unloving of us to just ignore their sin. I pray they come to the true knowledge of Jesus.
Not everyone believe in your godddddd shut up
I appreciate that they aren't in your face about their lifestyle and wanting everyone to agree with it. They seem like really cool, kind people. With that said, having them on condones their lifestyle, and with yalls channel having faith incorporated, I find that disappointing since God's teaching on this is quite clear. It's not a worse sin than any other immoral behavior, but it is still wrong.
Agree! In today's culture especially, the Lord is looking for His remnant to separate out from the chaff. It's not unloving not to condone same-sex relationships, it's the opposite. God doesn't condone it, and God is Love.
@@reneeca5696 amen sis🤎
It’s not a lifestyle. Do you live a straight lifestyle? Lol. Taking out the trash, going to work, making dinner. We all do the same thing.
But you are fine with them having guests on who have more than one marriage or s3x partner, which is committing adultery and is actually in The Ten Commandments? Everyone who speaks out on LGBTQ issues but ignores all of the other sins they witness their friends and fellow Christians commiting without pointing them all out and judging them just proves that it's really an issue with LGBTQ specifically.
@sunnyjohansen1958 I don't watch all their videos, so don't know which couples you may be referring to. When it's a same sex couple, it kind of stands out easily, whereas the other situations, I would have had to listen to each episode to gather that info. Are they discussing former behavior and have changed their paths now? If so, I commend that, but don't condone anyone who is living that way presently and on a podcast advertising it.
I woke up the other morning and I heard a word from the Lord for you guys, I want to be faithful…. I wasn’t planning on sending this but I feel convicted to say this….you are gaining the world but loosing your soul. There are the moments when we want to please the world and be okay with the worlds agendas like gay/lesbian ….But at what cost? To loose your own soul? Seek the Word of God on this matter and I genuinely really care for your family. Blessings
Don’t even tell me you are going there. Very shocked. So sorry you are supporting this.
GROSS. Such a SIN
every christian, please un follow all of their accounts, family made and their own. We need to hold our fellow Christians accountable. We will be at Jesus' judgment at the end of our lives and we must call each other higher!!!!! We aim for heaven and must want that for other people. I was an avid watcher and follower but I can no longer support them.
Byeeee 😂😂😂
Nope. Sorry. Y’all claim to be followers of Jesus. Y’all know what the Bible says and this is not it. You either stand on the Bible or you don’t.
Agreed!
It says nothing about this, oddly enough 😂😂😂 read it again in a context that doesn’t just fit your narrative
@@user-kj8hs1vn6g Except for the fact that the video begins with Shawn acknowledging it, and it’s acknowledged in the description. So, there’s that.
@@Breatheintomeandmakemereal lol okie dokie. If you want to be culty and weird you do that. Shawn and Andrew don’t waste their lives telling people they’re going to some fake hell because sky daddy said so 🤣🤣✌🏼✌🏼
@@user-kj8hs1vn6g Wow! What a response! 👍 Well, for the record, I have never and will never tell anyone that they are going to hell. I have stood up for people who have been told that and I will do it again because that’s not our job. Our job is to stand on the Word of God. So thanks! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify that!
This is so disheartening to see you side with the world and not the Bible.
Get over yourself. Love is love.
They can’t be friends with gay people?? Y’all are weird
@@jayleigh_bee
Check yourself, here.
Much of this discussion is centered around God.
(Shawn and Andrew often speak of Him and even pray in their videos)
The Bible is referenced a number of times in this conversation.
Displayed here, (as happens with most of us)
there are parts of the Bible that are quoted and agreed with,
yet Its instructions that point out 'straying' from God's Word
are simply ignored.
We are to love and care for one another,
yet this does not mean promoting behavior that God defines as sinful
and is against.
He is against the SIN~ NOT the sinner.
The Bible is very clear about choosing a homosexual lifestyle.
Those will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
A woman cannot be married to a woman.
Bible.
In case you haven’t noticed, the world has changed…..keep up or stay behind….
@@taintedlove202
What matters is that God's Word is the ONLY thing that will never change.
Until the world chooses Him, we are going to become more and more and more messed up.
(Hard to believe it's possible, given our current deplorable state of being)
The more we turn our back on our Creator,
the progression of our despicable choices and subsequent consequences will prevail.
The Bible tells us we reap what we sow.
We will reap MORE than we've sewn LONG AFTER we sow.
Thus, we are in a world of self destruction as live we in disobedience to God.
God tells us to turn from our wicked ways, then He will heal our land.
We are FAR from it at this time.
Until we allow God to soften our hearts and transform our mindsets,
we will continue on this lowly path.
Disappointed 😞
Yeah I’m a bit confused.
Ummmm why??…..
@@Livixxxxxxxxx because we, as believers, can’t choose to have one foot in the world and one in the word. As you grow in your faith, it will make sense. It’s not about being unloving. It’s about the truth we represent when we commit our life to Christ. It’s the affirming and giving platform to certain conversations that is unexpected. If you don’t understand where I’m coming from, that’s okay.
@@ashleysevert so what this sounds like is them simply having a lesbian couple on is in some way wrong because it doesn’t fit your narrative or close minded bubble? Are you implying that people of this community should be silenced or not invited onto a platform like this?
Respectfully, stop being a wolf in sheep’s clothing, you cant have “one foot in and one foot out” saying you are a Christian but casting judgement on people of the community that are also made in the lords image and likeness and still call yourself a Christian. That’s not how Christianity works…. Just like you have your POV, there’s another side which is gays are also people of Christ that have a story to be told. There’s nothing “confusing or disappointing” about that, y’all just have an opinion because it’s not what fits into your narrow mind.
Hold your beliefs but don’t act confused and comment BS stuff on videos that are supposed to shine light on others journeys into faith. Not every person represented on this channel has to look and follow a similar lifestyle as you.
Agree . But sadly the Bible does say that evil will be called good and good will be called evil sadly 😞 all we can do is pray 🙏🏼🙏🏼