The missed because of their prejudice. Doesnt look, sound, or play like they wanted him too. I had tears of happiness when we got Lamar, i knew it was the biggest steal of the draft
Facts! Biscioti told them to invest in him or it's a waste. That meant Marty Mohrinwheg had to go. Promote Greg Roman and draft players that fit that system. Remember Harbaugh said we want rugged tough WRs here and if thats isn't you this isn't the team for you but you are going to miss out on something special. They knew what they had in Lamar!
It was a steal, but also remember Baltimore passed on Lamar at #25 too. Luckily, they got back in the draft to move up to get him and lucky for them, he was still there on the draft board.
Brian Odom calculated risk. they knew if the chargers passed on him he would be available at 32. ravens essentially passed on him 3 times in the first round trading back
BlakDynamite615 I was surprised Jacksonville didn’t take Lamar. This was before they signed Foles and were dumping Bortles. Jackson could have stayed in state and had become Lamar Jacksonville. Oh well, coulda woulda shoulda.
Exactly. And this is common in established situations. The skin-color argument doesn't work cause they drafted a midget from Oklahoma as 1st overall pick last year. No, they lacked the Vision to see what Lamarvelous could be. Respect. 100%
Nick seems SOOOOOOOOOOOO much more casual and confident now that Chris isn't on the show. Definitely miss Mr. Carter, but happy to see Nick taking his opportunity.
Nick is lowkey soft. Not a bad word out of his mouth about Kawhi (i know this isn’t the topic) with CC there, and the moment he leaves he completely 180’s his Kawhi takes.
Chris Carter is annoying as $&@#! I think he has the talking disease. When he talks, no one else can talk, he will not stop talking. When you agree with him, he argues with you to keep talking.
Ozzie Newsome is the greatest visionary football general manager of all time. he saw Ray Lewis as the face of the Ravens he saw the greatness in Jonathan Ogden he saw Ed Reed be one of the greatest safeties he saw Joe Flacco win the another Superbowl and now he sees Lamar Jackson revolutionizing the QB position.
Reggie Reg everybody has the right to change their position when new information or certain things are revealed. I’ve been watching Lamar for 4 years so I never doubted the dude, but I’m at least glad that Nick is recognizing the greatness!
possibly, it definitely would have helped... don't discount Lamar's growth as a passer. He said himself the NFL ball was different and he struggled throwing spirals consistently (Brian also alluded to it)... also don't downplay Ingram and Hollywood, both Key additions.
@Bennybass yes but part of your growth as a passer is reading defences more effectively, throwing on the move... and as I mentioned getting used to the bigger ball. All Im trying to get across is the multitude of factors that have led to this 10 game streak. It's complex and not as easy as saying "well if Roman was here last year..."
Thoughts: 1. Ozzie Newsome drafted three of the NFL'S top 100 players. 2. In 1996, the Ravens had two first-round picks. They chose Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis. 3. Lamar Jackson is having an Allen Iverson-like impact on the NFL. When Iverson entered the league, there were no small guards that dominated basketball games in their entirety. The NFL has not seen this level of talent and productivity in an individual. Lamar will lead the NFL in touchdown passes, QBR, and will finish top-five in rushing yards. Just as AI was must-see TV, same for AI. Lamar feels like he is for the culture, just like AI.
Thank you Nick for keeping 100 and giving some background Lamar's story. I watched him score 7 TD's in the first half of a college game and I said immediately thats a pro style offense he's running and "his game" will translate to the league. 31 other teams failed at seeing that because....
I'll play devils advocate and say that a lot of teams weren't built for lamar both from a coaching and team perspective. The Ravens have a really good defense, a really good running back, a really good complementary back, and a top 3-5 head coach. They went all in to build the offense around Lamar Jackson's skillset and it paid off. That's just my opinion why a lot of teams wouldn't want to spend a first round pick on him when they don't have the necessary tools to maximize his potential. The Ravens are a great and healthy organization, QBs drafted in the first rarely get that
@@djblakethesnake you see a lot of bad teams and coaches force a qb regardless of their skillset into their system instead of building their system around that players skillset. I don't even mean that as a knock against Lamar Jackson. It's just a nice change of pace and I'm glad the Ravens decided to go all in with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson also seems dedicated to improving year round. They're a great organization and he's a great player and they deserve all the success they get.
@@rubinturner8233 Agreed, I think Patrino truly molded the offense around Jackson's talent which was more spread. I mean he always called him the "right handed vick" too lol
I look at QB'S like Marcus Mariota, Vince Young, Tim Tebow, and Cam Newton (still successful). I wonder if they played in offenses that truly were built to maximize their talent how different this leauge would have been.
maybe but i don't think it's because he's black. tom brady was drafted in the freaking 6th round of all people !!!!! joe montana was drafted in the 3rd round !! dan marino was drafted #27, brett favre at #33, drew brees at #32, etc. There have also been some great black QB's that were drafted higher than these legends: michael vick and cam newton were drafted #1 overall, donovann mcnabb was drafted #2 overall, steve mcnair was drafted #3 overall, daunte culpepper at #11, doug williams at #17, etc. When it comes to making more money, teams will be colorblind. A green orange martian who can complete 80% of his passes will get signed no matter what.
God Speed Russell Wilson, Deshawn Watson, Cam Newton, Patrick Mahomes, Robert Griffin III. All guys considered to be smart and well spoken. Lamar is more of that Terry Bradshaw Ilk, the southern dialect to executives is a red flag, especially in loud environments.
Blake The Snake It’s in response to the closed minded people. If he ONLY has six years( based on their thinking) wouldn’t you prefer the six dominant years I.e. Michael Jordan over 15 years of above average play -two division titles and wildcard appearance?
Bro ozzie passed on lamar too for HAYDEN HURST, the current #2 TE. No one thought he would be this good including everyone on this set. Chris Simms deserves credit for calling this
@@fightanddebate2682 if u take Hayden hurst over lamar, that means they didnt believe he could be this good, which to be fair, nobody thought. Hes on 2018 mahomes lvl
I believe they knew thar tight end wouldn't be there but knew they could get Lamar with that 32nd pick. I highly doubt they knew he would be this good.
@@bakugosrage8976 yeah that's unbelievable . If they expected an mvp season, they woulda got him way earlier than trading down and the #2 pick. Good for the ravens. Hope they get rekt in the playoffs
But haven't been allowed by the NFL owners to win a Super Bowl. When is the real truth, is going to be told. A bunch of NFL owners controlling the outcome of theses staged rigged and fixing theses games for Tom Brady and all the other white Quarterbacks.
Agreed. Jackson is forcing the entirety of the league to completely upturn their coaching style. They're too used to the "big guy in the center" and crafting their defense and offense around that. Jackson is reminding people that if you continue running that style, you are going to get outsmarted by an offense that now has a QB that is quick and nimble AND a good passer. Lamar has amazing game sense. He can see holes open up in the defense and run in. Too many teams are used to these QBs being slow to respond to holes in the pocket but Lamar knows how to turn on the jets as soon as he sees it loosen and he's torn apart defensive lines because of it. Jackson is a proper evolution for the NFL. I hope to see more QBs of Jackson's caliber in the future.
is it just me or is Jenna Wolfe and Rachel Nicolas the only good female moderators on sports talk shows. Joy Taylor is also great but she is more of a secondary host
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the Ravens drafted Hayden Hurst at #25 and then waited while six other teams, including the Steelers and Pats, passed on Jackson before finally taking him at #32? That was some Russian roulette right there.
Clive Pinnock They played chess while the other teams were playing checkers. I wonder if they would’ve taken Lamar with the first pick if they thought any of the teams between their picks needed a QB.
Johnny Fox Ozzie said he would have, but just like FBI the information they had about the other teams, he knew nobody wanted him in the first round, and after seeing how fast hurst is, I think he made the right decision
No it’s called knowing the value of a player from perspective of the league. Yes they could’ve gotten him at 25, but that may have been arguably reaching a bit since they got him at 32 we may never have gotten Hurst at 32.
@Vic Wilson if the majority of your organization is racist, your organization is racist. When you have year over year, decade after decade black QB being consistently pushed to play other positions or their college play downplayed while other QB are propped up despite their film, the only common factor is the race of the player.
10 out of 34 QBs drafted in the 1st round in the last 10 years have been non-white, including 4 #1 overall picks. Your story expired about 20 years ago.
Alex Flowers, REALTOR good number but what about the 10 years before that or the 80 years before that? The last 10 years have proven that black people can play Qb and most of those picks were clearly better then most in college. See my thing is this with a lot of stuff, it’s about generations. If a former black player from like the 60s wanted his son to play Qb he would probably make him switch positions because he knows how hard it is to make it in the NFL. Unlike somebody like Archie Manning who had his sons play Qb since a young age and knew the plan as a black player from that generation it was no way you telling your sons to play Qb because you know how hard it is. So now Blacks are generations behind that’s why some are hesitant to take black QBs because they mostly only know white QBs.
PREACH because this league in AMERICA started as everything else as only white it WAS founded by racists are there racists inside the NFL absolutely they can be jealous all they want
Newsome has an ability to see greatness in a player. Ozzie knew Lamar was a diamond in the ruff. So he took & polished him up into a beautiful gem worth inestimable value.
Yeah ! A diamond without a Super Bowl Championship rings. The NFL is Fake Fraudulent WWF World Wrestling Fraudulent white Quarterbacks and white players.
He’s not the prototypical quarterback and nobody wanted to take a chance on him. Point blank he can play and he’s got a great head on his shoulders. I wish nothing but the best for him, keep breaking records and proving the doubters wrong. 🙌🏽
2 years ago, everyone doubt him playing QB. What I see at Louisville was amazing and he was spectacular. He’s up there with Vince Young as the greatest QB in college football. Y’all going to roast me for comparing him to Vince Young but I’m not comparing him. I’m just saying they both are the greatest ever to do it.
@Round Robin not even top 10. He was really fun and electifying. But with that being said he's had more success in the NFL than he ever had in college. Just my opinion though.
Love lamar glad hes a qb and i understand why it was very disrepectful when he was coming out people telling to change position and im a ravens fan and love watching this kid play but he could play wr or HB at a high lvl so i think obiviously it was based on his race what they were saying but atleast theres a lil truth in the fact that he could be elite at hb or wr if he did move hed be the best back in the league
Lamar Jackson's Father died in a car crash and his grandmother passed the same day. God has this young man here for a reason and he's going to bring the city of Baltimore another Super Bowl Win By the way; Great Stuff Nick Wright
coming back tot his after Lamar has won his second MVP is so refreshing. He really did let his play do the talking and Ozzie is still a genius for getting Lamar with his last 1st round pick as an active GM.
Arguable, but I can't help but wonder how many coaches and general managers were spooked by the RG3 phenomenon: Incredibly talented out of college but a risky proposition in the NFL due to the risk of injury. Vick and Russ Wilson (scrambling/out of pocket QBs) seem to be the outliers in terms of longevity. Fair to say?
Kudos to Nick Wright for the Super 8 explanation I was actually watching this on Fox when I heard him say that I was so elated "finally someone talks about what needs to be talked about" instead of all the bias
Ozzie stands out as one of the very very few black GMs with a career of any length. He never came to the draft with preconceived notions about "poise" or "motor" or the idea that black QBs run because they aren't smart enough to progress past their first read.
Could it be teams hystorically haven't changed their offense to meet the strengths of black qbs? Ya know, same the type of ppl that would have preferred him as a reciever.. and the same reason Vick basically did this with no designed qb runs... perhaps the Harbough brothers see through this NFL narrative.
It’s not really an NFL narrative though. It’s historically the recipe for success. Name 20 qb’s that have succeeded and won championships with his style of play. Huge Lamar Jackson fan but I hate that everybody’s using his success to push their own agenda.
@@juansosa6050 That's a very flawed line of thinking. There have only been around 2 to 5 QB's in the history of the league with the skill set of Lamar or Vick. Compare that to the literally hundreds of QB's throughout the NFL's history who have been the prototypical tall and immobile QB then of course you won't see as many QB's with Lamar's skill set winning championships. But that's just sheer probability. If at any given time the League has 31 Classical QB's and 1 Lamar style QB, then the odds are heavily in favor for a Classical style QB to win the Super Bowl.
G Farro Dinero and I hate when people use the “recipe for success” which if it’s the only used method for success it will then be successful eventually anyways for their personal agenda
Let's not forget Greg Romans play calling the 2nd time around, Capernick was Romans coming out party. Also, the mistakes of RG3 and Vick were good case studies for Action Jackson. That 3 TE rotation - run, block, catch is best new wrinkle to hit the NFL since jumbo package.
The more you find out about Lamar Jackson, the more you want to know about him. The kid is the real deal on and off the field. Every team that passed on him.... I am truly thankful yall did as a Ravens fan.
From a league that was left for dead following the 'flag' controversy, Lamar's emergence may indeed be the magic pill that saves the league. He is so dynamic, so watchable, he'll single handedly be responsible for billions of dollars in added revenue to the league and he's still a second year player! This kind of impact only players of the magnitude of MJ, Tiger, LeBron, Messi have. Lamar is a mega star being born in front of our very eyes.
Nick Wright was on point here with everything he said 💯. And thanks for giving us the info about Lamar's background and upbringing that's something that gets lost in all the hype and success and isn't part of the media's narratives. Love this show.
It does have some to do with prejudice all even go back farther to when there was a quarterback name major Harris and a nother quarterback named Tony rice who were dominant in college very athletic and they were never drafted because they were a black quarterback that could run
I keep going back to the interview with Deion Sanders after he got picked by the Ravens. There was a look that I saw that I saw in two guys: Derek Jeter and Tiger Woods. They are guys that would do anything... ANYTHING... to beat you. I believed him when he said that the Baltimore Ravens are Super Bowl bound. He’s the guy that won’t stop until he achieves the goal. And then because he’s been doubted he wants more. It might not happen this year, but it’s coming soon. Lamar Jackson is coming.
Maybe his mother was able to instill those values in Him because she herself probably had a strong male figure in her home or the respect she had for lamars father. I think Lamars dad played a big part on how he is today based on his composure and how he deals with high pressure situations. But the media loves to give all the credit to the mother instead of giving value to both parents because they want the women to think she can raise her child by herself subconsciously.
All the people trying to make this about race are disgusting. The NFL has drafted a bunch of black QBs in the top 10 picks of the draft over the last couple decades. Lamar Jackson fell due to a very low Wonderlic score and college tape full of inaccurate throws and overall play that wasn't seen as being easily translatable to the NFL. Everyone bringing race up in this discussion should be ashamed of themselves.
The people that are ignoring the white tendency to tell black QBs to play QB and WR because they are fast is more disgusting. If QB's like Nathan Peterman can start multiple games for the Bills, and get picked up bt the Raiders as their backup, your whole suggestion that white coaches and owners are objective about inaccurate throws of black QBs is ridiculous. They see possibility in inaccurate white QBs, but not black ones.
@@yzfool6639 Nathan Peterman was drafted in the 5th round. Lamar Jackson was drafted at the end of the 1st round. That hardly supports your narrative. Additionally, Michael Vick, Jamarcus Russell, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, and Kyler Murray have all been taken #1 overall in the last 20 years. So basically in 1 out of every 4 years a black QB has been taken #1 overall. Your claims of racism against black QBs are laughable.
Let's get real, the effectiveness of Lamar's style of play and Baltimore's schemes that take advantage of his skill set have immediate modern precedents that can be traced back to Tebow in Denver and Kaepernick in SF. Lamar's just taking things up a notch, but this isn't completely new. Hats off to the Harbaugh and Roman for having the courage to go against the grain and a bigger pat on the back to Ozzie for the support and allowing the staff to try it.
Clear difference between high school and nfl but to win you need the best player to have ball in his hands period your best athlete should have ball majority of the time
Funny about Lamar, you could pick him by looking at him playing football in his back yard, at the age of twelve years old, speed and the juke moves is in the brain a god gift.
It ridiculous to act like Lamar Jackson was some hidden gem who everyone scoffed at. He was a Heisman Trophy winner who was drafted in the first round. Sure, a few QBs were drafted before him. That doesn't mean he was under the radar. He was highly lauded.
All we can do is think of possibilities that Lamar may not last 10yrs with this kind of play. But if you look at Michael Vick, he managed to play longer than 6 years. So let us ride with this Lamar bus and enjoy, and i think it will be a long ride. Just watch his highschool and colleges games. He did managed to stay strong and he will just get better even before he reach 30yrs old :)
I subscribed to the thought that you project a quarterback for the next 10 years. I love that Brian said you might get the most exciting 5 years out of Lamar. Great point. He would still be viewed a tremendous success. I’m from Florida. I wonder if Tim Tebow could have been successful with the right visionary. He definitely is a winner but the NFL or John Eleanor couldn’t figure out how to use his talents.
Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck ALL got hurt in the standing in the pocket. Peyton Manning neck injury in the pocket, Tom Brady knee injury when he was out the whole season a few years back he was standing in the pocket. Drew Brees got hurt in the pocket. These sports analysis think just because you are a 6'4 235 pocket passer you will last long in the league. Yeah okay. Offensive Lines are that talented anymore. DEs and OLB are more faster and athletic now. You need a QB that has some mobility. The NFL has changed. The Era of the pocket passer is over.
Lamar said ...Watch, i'm coming to bring the Ravens a Super bowl. He passes every haters doubts. As a fan of the game ...why all the shade still, being cast on my man. They talk about his speech.....his arm angle....his footwork...his image....wtf. Yet he's working towards that goal regardless. Hat is off my head as a fan of this man. Quit the hate.
He saw that all the defenses were being built for speed and defending the pass in a pass happy league so he drafted a quarterback that can run like the wind and throw just as well as any other qb.
You have a choice of a quarterback that will fizz out in 5 years but will give you a super bowl victory 100% or another quarterback that will never give you a super bowl but give you nice big passing yards, pro bowls and maybe some playoff victories. As GM which one are you going to choose?
Will Lamar Jackson win MVP?
He better or else there's something wrong.
Why is this a question?
In a landslide.
Colin Cowherd: "Sam Darnold is a prospect. Lamar Jackson is a project."
Does guy fieri frost his tips?? There you go
Lamar Jackson and Kevin Durant's moms are the MVP by how they have made such an impact their son's lives
Reginald Williams on
@Vic Wilson gonna cry?
Another Dad Hater.The downfall of society
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SPIRIT 13 no it was cuz his mom told the coaches to keep him at qb instead of a different opinion. Don’t make this about gender equality bro
The missed because of their prejudice. Doesnt look, sound, or play like they wanted him too. I had tears of happiness when we got Lamar, i knew it was the biggest steal of the draft
Facts! Biscioti told them to invest in him or it's a waste. That meant Marty Mohrinwheg had to go. Promote Greg Roman and draft players that fit that system. Remember Harbaugh said we want rugged tough WRs here and if thats isn't you this isn't the team for you but you are going to miss out on something special. They knew what they had in Lamar!
It was a steal, but also remember Baltimore passed on Lamar at #25 too. Luckily, they got back in the draft to move up to get him and lucky for them, he was still there on the draft board.
Brian Odom calculated risk. they knew if the chargers passed on him he would be available at 32. ravens essentially passed on him 3 times in the first round trading back
BlakDynamite615 I was surprised Jacksonville didn’t take Lamar. This was before they signed Foles and were dumping Bortles. Jackson could have stayed in state and had become Lamar Jacksonville. Oh well, coulda woulda shoulda.
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The real reason they missed on Lamar is because they have no vision.
Exactly. And this is common in established situations. The skin-color argument doesn't work cause they drafted a midget from Oklahoma as 1st overall pick last year. No, they lacked the Vision to see what Lamarvelous could be. Respect. 100%
0kissMYbASS just Florida lingo 🤷🏾♂️just like New Yorkers English sound different from Californians.
They passed on him because he was black. The narrative was he wasn't accurate never mention that his receivers were dropping passes
Jan Mitchell lmao so people don’t want black qbs? Wasn’t a black man drafted first overall as a qb?
@@j.kol3491 You know how they are. They don't want no upitty black QBs. They want black QB's to stay in the pocket where they belong.
"Can he communicate things in the huddle" "as if language is not his first language"
It's crazy that people really do think like that
Joey Whiting communicate as in does the have the huddles attention/ control and calls the plays properly and what each position is doing.
Have you heard Lamr talk though? He sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles.....
They do, watch the comments below.
It should be English, not language.
@@tommycoe2333 he from the South nothing wrong with the way Lamar talk
We say “In Ozzie we trust” for a reason 💪💯
The "Oz man"
Yessir!
Big truss
Amen
Ah yes. I remember those chants last year when the chargers kicked the ravens out of the playoffs
Nick seems SOOOOOOOOOOOO much more casual and confident now that Chris isn't on the show. Definitely miss Mr. Carter, but happy to see Nick taking his opportunity.
Michael Shepler yeah I peep that too! He actually gat more cocky...
Yup... I do miss certain aspects of CC but he was a bully to nick 😫🤣😂
Nick is lowkey soft. Not a bad word out of his mouth about Kawhi (i know this isn’t the topic) with CC there, and the moment he leaves he completely 180’s his Kawhi takes.
Chris Carter is annoying as $&@#! I think he has the talking disease. When he talks, no one else can talk, he will not stop talking. When you agree with him, he argues with you to keep talking.
CC was a bully and thought he knew everything
Ozzie Newsome is the greatest visionary football general manager of all time. he saw Ray Lewis as the face of the Ravens he saw the greatness in Jonathan Ogden he saw Ed Reed be one of the greatest safeties he saw Joe Flacco win the another Superbowl and now he sees Lamar Jackson revolutionizing the QB position.
Also Suggs, Nata, Seragusa, Heap man the list goes on
Wizard of Oz!
@@alandthekidd We gave him that name while he played in cleveland.
@@caracasboogie Just curious, who is "we"?
@@alandthekidd my older brothers and uncles.
Ozzie only saw what other GM's have ignored for years
Vic Wilson Ozzie isn’t racist at all.
GO RAVENS👑NORTH🏈
Nick! This was your BEST SEGMENT EVER! In depth analysis and objectivity.............. Well done! 👏👏👏
Nick is a hypocrite! He was one of the main naysayers about Lamar.
Reggie Reg everybody has the right to change their position when new information or certain things are revealed. I’ve been watching Lamar for 4 years so I never doubted the dude, but I’m at least glad that Nick is recognizing the greatness!
If Roman called plays last year they would’ve won against the chargers no cap
Marty was horrible
possibly, it definitely would have helped... don't discount Lamar's growth as a passer. He said himself the NFL ball was different and he struggled throwing spirals consistently (Brian also alluded to it)... also don't downplay Ingram and Hollywood, both Key additions.
@Bennybass yes but part of your growth as a passer is reading defences more effectively, throwing on the move... and as I mentioned getting used to the bigger ball. All Im trying to get across is the multitude of factors that have led to this 10 game streak. It's complex and not as easy as saying "well if Roman was here last year..."
Roman was 25-14 with Kaep
NFC championship and an SB
Just sayin’
Timo Cruz I’m not saying it to downplay Lamar I’m saying marty didn’t trust him to throw at all, apparently he was not on board with him as a qb
Thoughts:
1. Ozzie Newsome drafted three of the NFL'S top 100 players.
2. In 1996, the Ravens had two first-round picks. They chose Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis.
3. Lamar Jackson is having an Allen Iverson-like impact on the NFL. When Iverson entered the league, there were no small guards that dominated basketball games in their entirety. The NFL has not seen this level of talent and productivity in an individual. Lamar will lead the NFL in touchdown passes, QBR, and will finish top-five in rushing yards.
Just as AI was must-see TV, same for AI.
Lamar feels like he is for the culture, just like AI.
Jenna for the millionth time - "Nick why you think so many people missed on Lamar coming from school?"
well it's obvious he had a few things going against him coming in. nothing legitimate but they used it against him.
Thank you Nick for keeping 100 and giving some background Lamar's story. I watched him score 7 TD's in the first half of a college game and I said immediately thats a pro style offense he's running and "his game" will translate to the league. 31 other teams failed at seeing that because....
I'll play devils advocate and say that a lot of teams weren't built for lamar both from a coaching and team perspective. The Ravens have a really good defense, a really good running back, a really good complementary back, and a top 3-5 head coach. They went all in to build the offense around Lamar Jackson's skillset and it paid off. That's just my opinion why a lot of teams wouldn't want to spend a first round pick on him when they don't have the necessary tools to maximize his potential. The Ravens are a great and healthy organization, QBs drafted in the first rarely get that
@@victorpetrescu6586 what team doesn't build their offense around their quarterback..?
@@djblakethesnake you see a lot of bad teams and coaches force a qb regardless of their skillset into their system instead of building their system around that players skillset. I don't even mean that as a knock against Lamar Jackson. It's just a nice change of pace and I'm glad the Ravens decided to go all in with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson also seems dedicated to improving year round. They're a great organization and he's a great player and they deserve all the success they get.
But that was NOT a pro styled offense!
@@rubinturner8233 Agreed, I think Patrino truly molded the offense around Jackson's talent which was more spread. I mean he always called him the "right handed vick" too lol
Lamar didn’t run the 40 on purpose so people couldn’t see how quick he is. It’s common sense 🤷♂️
God, prayer, faith, family, education, sacrifice, character, discipline.
Humble
Wow!
Old School 👍
Too bad his mother couldnt have raised our current president..
This young is very humble God blessed him with a gift that will never stop giving
They didn't miss..they didn't want Lamar in the NFL as a quarterback..
I wonder where Eric Mangini is today...
Mangina is a big hater
He doesent discuss baltimore anymore lmao. Just everyone else.
I could listen to Canty talk football all day long he is excellent. MNF should offer him the job.
There should be more crossover between shows like ESPN. Skip and shannon should make appearances on this show!!
One of my favorite segments on television is when Nick is on Cowherd
They shoot in NY Skip and Shannon in LA
Naw they deserve better
Round Robin boah on the wrong thread this ain’t Fox News
When he wins mvp he’ll give all the credit to the team and his mom lol.
And the juice!!!
yep lol...he really doesn't like alot of attention.
He really did tho. Unanimous MVP.
Jenna be hitting those weights.
She's a physical fitness instructor.
So then why is she on a sports talk show
Because she was also on MSNBC as a reporter ABC's sports reporter
jenna thicker than a snicker, i love how she look!
Lamar Jackson is a madden created player... lol real talk.
Luke Da Lunatic facts I said that on a post a few weeks ago. Lamar is what happens when you create your quarterback on madden Lls
Luke Da Lunatic #cheatcode
And madden will ruin his stats next years madden lmao
He better not get on that cover 😭😭😭
lakeysha pennix too late...
I look at QB'S like Marcus Mariota, Vince Young, Tim Tebow, and Cam Newton (still successful). I wonder if they played in offenses that truly were built to maximize their talent how different this leauge would have been.
Lamar Jackson = VIBRAINIUM QB
AKA..........Yung T'Chala
The most creative ways to say because “he’s black” without saying it 😅. We all know why they didn’t want him.
maybe but i don't think it's because he's black. tom brady was drafted in the freaking 6th round of all people !!!!! joe montana was drafted in the 3rd round !! dan marino was drafted #27, brett favre at #33, drew brees at #32, etc. There have also been some great black QB's that were drafted higher than these legends: michael vick and cam newton were drafted #1 overall, donovann mcnabb was drafted #2 overall, steve mcnair was drafted #3 overall, daunte culpepper at #11, doug williams at #17, etc. When it comes to making more money, teams will be colorblind. A green orange martian who can complete 80% of his passes will get signed no matter what.
oh god the racist card again
"can he communicate things in the huddle? will his teammates understand him?" lol says alot about that statement
It's really no other positions they can dominate as a whole.. Black QBs taking over in that area is terrifying for them 💯
God Speed Russell Wilson, Deshawn Watson, Cam Newton, Patrick Mahomes, Robert Griffin III. All guys considered to be smart and well spoken. Lamar is more of that Terry Bradshaw Ilk, the southern dialect to executives is a red flag, especially in loud environments.
Title should've been ozzie newsome seen something in lamar that the media, teams, and many other critics didn't see
he's had no injuries, and they're saying he might have 6 good years, and consider themselves open minded sportscast people..
Blake The Snake It’s in response to the closed minded people. If he ONLY has six years( based on their thinking) wouldn’t you prefer the six dominant years I.e. Michael Jordan over 15 years of above average play -two division titles and wildcard appearance?
Six dominate years at that play style is really great man.... he could have 4 more years of above average and still be the best player in the league
Bro ozzie passed on lamar too for HAYDEN HURST, the current #2 TE.
No one thought he would be this good including everyone on this set.
Chris Simms deserves credit for calling this
True. Everyone slept on LJ. EVERYONE.
Ravens knew that other teams would skip him, that doesn’t mean they slept on Lamar
@@fightanddebate2682 if u take Hayden hurst over lamar, that means they didnt believe he could be this good, which to be fair, nobody thought. Hes on 2018 mahomes lvl
I believe they knew thar tight end wouldn't be there but knew they could get Lamar with that 32nd pick. I highly doubt they knew he would be this good.
@@bakugosrage8976 yeah that's unbelievable . If they expected an mvp season, they woulda got him way earlier than trading down and the #2 pick.
Good for the ravens. Hope they get rekt in the playoffs
He's not just hitting wide open throws but throwing darts through small windows. He can throw heat too.
But haven't been allowed by the NFL owners to win a Super Bowl. When is the real truth, is going to be told. A bunch of NFL owners controlling the outcome of theses staged rigged and fixing theses games for Tom Brady and all the other white Quarterbacks.
Agreed. Jackson is forcing the entirety of the league to completely upturn their coaching style. They're too used to the "big guy in the center" and crafting their defense and offense around that. Jackson is reminding people that if you continue running that style, you are going to get outsmarted by an offense that now has a QB that is quick and nimble AND a good passer.
Lamar has amazing game sense. He can see holes open up in the defense and run in. Too many teams are used to these QBs being slow to respond to holes in the pocket but Lamar knows how to turn on the jets as soon as he sees it loosen and he's torn apart defensive lines because of it.
Jackson is a proper evolution for the NFL. I hope to see more QBs of Jackson's caliber in the future.
Lamar was amazing at Louisville. He can read defenses.
I just hate that Mickey Loomis missed this for the Saints when he traded his way back in the first round and selected Davenport over Jackson.
is it just me or is Jenna Wolfe and Rachel Nicolas the only good female moderators on sports talk shows. Joy Taylor is also great but she is more of a secondary host
@DJ Tengu I can't believe he forgot Jenny
Molly is a freaking joke as well.
Brian Westbrook is straight facts... great guest
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the Ravens drafted Hayden Hurst at #25 and then waited while six other teams, including the Steelers and Pats, passed on Jackson before finally taking him at #32? That was some Russian roulette right there.
Clive Pinnock They played chess while the other teams were playing checkers. I wonder if they would’ve taken Lamar with the first pick if they thought any of the teams between their picks needed a QB.
Johnny Fox Ozzie said he would have, but just like FBI the information they had about the other teams, he knew nobody wanted him in the first round, and after seeing how fast hurst is, I think he made the right decision
No it’s called knowing the value of a player from perspective of the league. Yes they could’ve gotten him at 25, but that may have been arguably reaching a bit since they got him at 32 we may never have gotten Hurst at 32.
It's only Russing roulette if you don't know how many bullets are in the gun. You're confusing genius with randomness.
A lot of ways to say the nfl is racist against black qb’s lol
@Vic Wilson if the majority of your organization is racist, your organization is racist. When you have year over year, decade after decade black QB being consistently pushed to play other positions or their college play downplayed while other QB are propped up despite their film, the only common factor is the race of the player.
10 out of 34 QBs drafted in the 1st round in the last 10 years have been non-white, including 4 #1 overall picks. Your story expired about 20 years ago.
Cry me a river lol
Alex Flowers, REALTOR good number but what about the 10 years before that or the 80 years before that? The last 10 years have proven that black people can play Qb and most of those picks were clearly better then most in college. See my thing is this with a lot of stuff, it’s about generations. If a former black player from like the 60s wanted his son to play Qb he would probably make him switch positions because he knows how hard it is to make it in the NFL. Unlike somebody like Archie Manning who had his sons play Qb since a young age and knew the plan as a black player from that generation it was no way you telling your sons to play Qb because you know how hard it is. So now Blacks are generations behind that’s why some are hesitant to take black QBs because they mostly only know white QBs.
PREACH because this league in AMERICA started as everything else as only white it WAS founded by racists are there racists inside the NFL absolutely they can be jealous all they want
A lot of non ravens fans didn’t know the real life story about our QB.. this is why we love LJ
Thank you !
About time we had this conversation.
Lamar's Mother sounds like a champion, 🏆 and she's taught her children well..!
Probably the first take I've heard from Nick where I'm just nodding my head up and down the whole time 💯
Newsome has an ability to see greatness in a player. Ozzie knew Lamar was a diamond in the ruff. So he took & polished him up into a beautiful gem worth inestimable value.
Yeah ! A diamond without a Super Bowl Championship rings. The NFL is Fake Fraudulent WWF World Wrestling Fraudulent white Quarterbacks and white players.
uhhhh Eric decosta saw something as well
IN OZZY WE TRUST !!!
Ravens nation !!!
that mel kiper jab was nicely done
The coincidence: Mel Kiper Jr is from Baltimore and has Ravens season tickets.
Nick Wright is an underrated sports analyst and journalist. Give the man more air time. Nick and Uncle Shay Sharpe are my favorites.
He’s not the prototypical quarterback and nobody wanted to take a chance on him. Point blank he can play and he’s got a great head on his shoulders. I wish nothing but the best for him, keep breaking records and proving the doubters wrong. 🙌🏽
Chris Canty is growing on me he's still a little safe but he's growing on me I appreciate that Chris I don't know what happened good I appreciate it.
2 years ago, everyone doubt him playing QB.
What I see at Louisville was amazing and he was spectacular. He’s up there with Vince Young as the greatest QB in college football. Y’all going to roast me for comparing him to Vince Young but I’m not comparing him. I’m just saying they both are the greatest ever to do it.
Tebow is GOAT College QB though.
Tebows ok but he ain't no Lamar.. Alot of people on here never seen lamar college highlights and it's right here in youtube
@Round Robin not even top 10. He was really fun and electifying. But with that being said he's had more success in the NFL than he ever had in college. Just my opinion though.
Love lamar glad hes a qb and i understand why it was very disrepectful when he was coming out people telling to change position and im a ravens fan and love watching this kid play but he could play wr or HB at a high lvl so i think obiviously it was based on his race what they were saying but atleast theres a lil truth in the fact that he could be elite at hb or wr if he did move hed be the best back in the league
Finally Somebody Is being honest that they was Wrong about my Boii , He PREACHED 💯
Lamar Jackson's Father died in a car crash and his grandmother passed the same day. God has this young man here for a reason and he's going to bring the city of Baltimore another Super Bowl Win
By the way; Great Stuff Nick Wright
coming back tot his after Lamar has won his second MVP is so refreshing. He really did let his play do the talking and Ozzie is still a genius for getting Lamar with his last 1st round pick as an active GM.
I saw it the first time I watched him behind center, dropping his foot. HIs authority struck me instantly, I've played a lot of ball.
nick spitting facts
Not complicated... It is a black man that brought skills that most QBs don't have including leadership skills. Racism Period.
Arguable, but I can't help but wonder how many coaches and general managers were spooked by the RG3 phenomenon: Incredibly talented out of college but a risky proposition in the NFL due to the risk of injury. Vick and Russ Wilson (scrambling/out of pocket QBs) seem to be the outliers in terms of longevity. Fair to say?
Lol I wonder how long they gonna keep bringing in new co hosts to replace CC.
What happened to cc
Robert Lyons Heard they wouldn’t let be the announcer on a game he wanted and wasn’t getting opportunities he felt he deserved.
@@thedarkegyptians618 ohhh boohoo
They can't replace CC. I think mixing it up is working for them.
God Is Great 👍🏾!
Kudos to Nick Wright for the Super 8 explanation I was actually watching this on Fox when I heard him say that I was so elated "finally someone talks about what needs to be talked about" instead of all the bias
Nick was on point in answering why people & teams missed on Lamar.
In 2015 one of Flacco's lineman got pushed on to his ACL while in the pocket.
Thank you Lamar haters you really contributed to the Ravens getting him at 32
No problem we will do it again
Ozzie stands out as one of the very very few black GMs with a career of any length. He never came to the draft with preconceived notions about "poise" or "motor" or the idea that black QBs run because they aren't smart enough to progress past their first read.
Just as important, he didn't even come to the draft with a white head coach that wasn't smart enough to let him run in the first place.
Powerful stuff about Lamar’s mom. She’s the real MVP
That’s not Nick Write that’s the Tom Green ”My bum is on your lip” ”My bum is on your lip” LOL
Could it be teams hystorically haven't changed their offense to meet the strengths of black qbs? Ya know, same the type of ppl that would have preferred him as a reciever.. and the same reason Vick basically did this with no designed qb runs... perhaps the Harbough brothers see through this NFL narrative.
It’s not really an NFL narrative though. It’s historically the recipe for success. Name 20 qb’s that have succeeded and won championships with his style of play. Huge Lamar Jackson fan but I hate that everybody’s using his success to push their own agenda.
@@juansosa6050 That's a very flawed line of thinking. There have only been around 2 to 5 QB's in the history of the league with the skill set of Lamar or Vick. Compare that to the literally hundreds of QB's throughout the NFL's history who have been the prototypical tall and immobile QB then of course you won't see as many QB's with Lamar's skill set winning championships. But that's just sheer probability. If at any given time the League has 31 Classical QB's and 1 Lamar style QB, then the odds are heavily in favor for a Classical style QB to win the Super Bowl.
G Farro Dinero and I hate when people use the “recipe for success” which if it’s the only used method for success it will then be successful eventually anyways for their personal agenda
Let's not forget Greg Romans play calling the 2nd time around, Capernick was Romans coming out party. Also, the mistakes of RG3 and Vick were good case studies for Action Jackson. That 3 TE rotation - run, block, catch is best new wrinkle to hit the NFL since jumbo package.
The more you find out about Lamar Jackson, the more you want to know about him. The kid is the real deal on and off the field. Every team that passed on him.... I am truly thankful yall did as a Ravens fan.
From a league that was left for dead following the 'flag' controversy, Lamar's emergence may indeed be the magic pill that saves the league. He is so dynamic, so watchable, he'll single handedly be responsible for billions of dollars in added revenue to the league and he's still a second year player! This kind of impact only players of the magnitude of MJ, Tiger, LeBron, Messi have. Lamar is a mega star being born in front of our very eyes.
Nick Wright was on point here with everything he said 💯. And thanks for giving us the info about Lamar's background and upbringing that's something that gets lost in all the hype and success and isn't part of the media's narratives. Love this show.
It does have some to do with prejudice all even go back farther to when there was a quarterback name major Harris and a nother quarterback named Tony rice who were dominant in college very athletic and they were never drafted because they were a black quarterback that could run
Have you heard Lamar speak ? This guy is pure football. He is consumed and passionate about playing the game the right way
If you listen to his pro day/ combine interviews he was always smart and had a good understanding off defense's
I keep going back to the interview with Deion Sanders after he got picked by the Ravens. There was a look that I saw that I saw in two guys: Derek Jeter and Tiger Woods. They are guys that would do anything... ANYTHING... to beat you. I believed him when he said that the Baltimore Ravens are Super Bowl bound. He’s the guy that won’t stop until he achieves the goal. And then because he’s been doubted he wants more. It might not happen this year, but it’s coming soon. Lamar Jackson is coming.
The number 8 has a lot of significance to Lamar. Interesting
It also means a new beginning
The good ole boy approach to football explains it.
Other teams that needed a quarterback and passed on Lamar Jackson saw something that Ozzie did not care about which was Jackson’s race.
Nick Wright excellent excellent segment. Thanks
Maybe his mother was able to instill those values in Him because she herself probably had a strong male figure in her home or the respect she had for lamars father. I think Lamars dad played a big part on how he is today based on his composure and how he deals with high pressure situations. But the media loves to give all the credit to the mother instead of giving value to both parents because they want the women to think she can raise her child by herself subconsciously.
TRIPLE AMEN
All the people trying to make this about race are disgusting. The NFL has drafted a bunch of black QBs in the top 10 picks of the draft over the last couple decades. Lamar Jackson fell due to a very low Wonderlic score and college tape full of inaccurate throws and overall play that wasn't seen as being easily translatable to the NFL. Everyone bringing race up in this discussion should be ashamed of themselves.
The people that are ignoring the white tendency to tell black QBs to play QB and WR because they are fast is more disgusting. If QB's like Nathan Peterman can start multiple games for the Bills, and get picked up bt the Raiders as their backup, your whole suggestion that white coaches and owners are objective about inaccurate throws of black QBs is ridiculous. They see possibility in inaccurate white QBs, but not black ones.
@@yzfool6639 Nathan Peterman was drafted in the 5th round. Lamar Jackson was drafted at the end of the 1st round. That hardly supports your narrative. Additionally, Michael Vick, Jamarcus Russell, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, and Kyler Murray have all been taken #1 overall in the last 20 years. So basically in 1 out of every 4 years a black QB has been taken #1 overall. Your claims of racism against black QBs are laughable.
Let's get real, the effectiveness of Lamar's style of play and Baltimore's schemes that take advantage of his skill set have immediate modern precedents that can be traced back to Tebow in Denver and Kaepernick in SF. Lamar's just taking things up a notch, but this isn't completely new. Hats off to the Harbaugh and Roman for having the courage to go against the grain and a bigger pat on the back to Ozzie for the support and allowing the staff to try it.
Clear difference between high school and nfl but to win you need the best player to have ball in his hands period your best athlete should have ball majority of the time
Funny about Lamar, you could pick him by looking at him playing football in his back yard, at the age of twelve years old, speed and the juke moves is in the brain a god gift.
the real reason is because he is black ,humble and epitome of a leader...them white folks afraid of this, I know im Caucasian tho
Lol ur white.
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Keeping letting the media control your mind man, while the rich get richer.
Ozzie is the GOAT of GMs
I am in agreement in the meaning of Super 8...a true testimony. FAITH!
All teams build their offense around their Q-backs.
It ridiculous to act like Lamar Jackson was some hidden gem who everyone scoffed at. He was a Heisman Trophy winner who was drafted in the first round. Sure, a few QBs were drafted before him. That doesn't mean he was under the radar. He was highly lauded.
All we can do is think of possibilities that Lamar may not last 10yrs with this kind of play. But if you look at Michael Vick, he managed to play longer than 6 years. So let us ride with this Lamar bus and enjoy, and i think it will be a long ride. Just watch his highschool and colleges games. He did managed to stay strong and he will just get better even before he reach 30yrs old :)
Wow, wonderful video man, thank you.
I subscribed to the thought that you project a quarterback for the next 10 years. I love that Brian said you might get the most exciting 5 years out of Lamar. Great point. He would still be viewed a tremendous success. I’m from Florida. I wonder if Tim Tebow could have been successful with the right visionary. He definitely is a winner but the NFL or John Eleanor couldn’t figure out how to use his talents.
Lamar has NEVER gotten the credit he deserves. LAMAR is what Cam Newton said he is a GAME CHANGER. Love!
Sorry bro you’ll never see another player as talented as Lamar. He’s the most explosive and special player to ever touch a football.
Tried to tell my family we needed to draft Lamar in New England
Alex Smith, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck ALL got hurt in the standing in the pocket. Peyton Manning neck injury in the pocket, Tom Brady knee injury when he was out the whole season a few years back he was standing in the pocket. Drew Brees got hurt in the pocket. These sports analysis think just because you are a 6'4 235 pocket passer you will last long in the league. Yeah okay. Offensive Lines are that talented anymore. DEs and OLB are more faster and athletic now. You need a QB that has some mobility. The NFL has changed. The Era of the pocket passer is over.
Lamar said ...Watch, i'm coming to bring the Ravens a Super bowl. He passes every haters doubts. As a fan of the game ...why all the shade still, being cast on my man. They talk about his speech.....his arm angle....his footwork...his image....wtf. Yet he's working towards that goal regardless. Hat is off my head as a fan of this man. Quit the hate.
He saw that all the defenses were being built for speed and defending the pass in a pass happy league so he drafted a quarterback that can run like the wind and throw just as well as any other qb.
Great Job! Excellent work! Right on point!
You have a choice of a quarterback that will fizz out in 5 years but will give you a super bowl victory 100% or another quarterback that will never give you a super bowl but give you nice big passing yards, pro bowls and maybe some playoff victories.
As GM which one are you going to choose?
Lamar Jackson a.k.a. Jukin Jackson.