Some people seem to complain about the fact that this isnt an air disaster, but the fact that these guys can make any disaster into a stunning documentary is pretty amazing. Sadly I don't think this spinoff lasted very long, as it also wasn't recieved well when this series was originally aired on TV.
This was an actual spinoff? I didn't realize. NTSB (etc) investigations in general are pretty fascinating. Just when a "cause" has been found, you realize that's only one part of a much bigger chain of events to look at. And so much time and effort goes into finding just one aspect of the cause. Just a really helpful way to think about cause and effect in other aspects of life. We often find one or two things and forget to keep looking.
Can you imagine taking a nice lengthy warm shower and getting hit by a train, then surviving? Obviously this man has an angel on his shoulder. And certainly, his showers must be under 30 seconds now.
This is surely reason to remove the little plastic flow restrictor in your shower head. More water = faster showers = less likely to get hit by a train.
What a terrifying feeling ...your massive mode of transportation is out of control, you don't know why or how to stop it, and you're heading right into a community.
two days ago, a freight train stopped where i live because a car was on fire, the fire department and hazmat took hours and the traffic closed 3 streets. it was a nightmare
@@lilyrrichard236 The worst ones to me that I have watched is the air disasters when the plane does a straight nose dive for thousands of feet, that has got to be s**t your pants scary before lights out😱
(Conductor) "MAYDAY MAYDAY"! (dispatch) "Come in 7551" (Conductor) "We have a slight problem" As the train proceeds to demolish an entire neighborhood. Also who says "we're all over the ground in a situation that exponential?
@@questofknowledge8788 they probably knew, but since they didn’t know the real weight of the train, they probably assumed that the emergency brakes would work.
in 2020 i was a bus operator trainee, had just moved into the area and my training supervisor brought me to Duffy Street, thats when i learned about the Duffy Street disaster, i was so shook about the tragedy i had to pull over and give myself a moment and also the victims.
Ah California the State I was born an raised. Wait 1989? Both devastation took place 1989? Man so this was in May of 1989 I was in second grade; but, come September, I was a 3rd grader. I lived through October 17, 1989 the Loma Prieta, Earthquake. I'm not kidding. It's also known as the World Series Quake. My mom had just gotten off the Double-Decker Cypress Freeway the 880 5 Minutes before it Collapse. We lived less than 5 minutes away from that same Freeway. My mom likened those days to Vietnam because of all the helicopter's flying overhead an by a week Mom could smell the bodies on the Freeway. I don't remember smelling those dead on the Freeway on the Air. I just hadn't realized what a busy Year that 1989 had been. I think the same Month this happening in San Bernadino, over in Sioux City, Fall's, South Dakota there was a an Airplane Crash. It was a DC-10 a part of the plane somehow fell off while in Flight and the result it crashed. NTSB an other investigator's didn't find the missing part that fell off until October same month of when the Earthquake occurred. I learned of the tragic plane crash through 30 Seconds from Disaster & Mayday Air Crash Investigation's. Oh an a Happy Time for me in 1989, twice Oakland A's won the World Series & the 49ers led by Joe Montana an Jerry Rice won The Super Bowl.
The moment I seen the cargo. A single thing went through my mind. "Dust explosion". It would certainly be possible and would make any disaster increase in severity 2-3 times. If that happened? I don't know. I just started watching. No explosion yet. They certainly got lucky. If the cargo lit, half the town would have been gone right then.
Me: (Watching an Aviation Marathon.) ASDF Guy: "I like Trains." Me: Oh "s***!" - Current Video starts playing - Me: "Unexpected... but I'll accept this."
Back in the day when the people wanted to live on Duffy street they would often complain about train noises until this accident happened and not only that days after the derailment happened a gas pipeline exploded burning and destroying more houses and the residents that lived there fearing another disaster had either left or moved away Duffy street for good 🚂💥
Not quite. A derailment in itself is not an uncommon thing. Wheel comes off, but most or all cars are still upright. A derailment doesn't really carry across the severity. But "all over the ground" while Jargon means that the train itself has completely jumped off the tracks on a large scale.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
Train was heavier then they thought and also some units did not have functioning dynamic brakes. Both factors created too much weight for the trip down grade.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
15:30 "We have a slight problem" - no you have a HUGE problem. Dont be coy - you had a hard time getting ahold of him on your radio; if you lose him again youve wasted your shot by playing games when emergency assistance could have already been on the way!
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
I think this is when they tried to branch out a bit and do other disasters, there's another train wreck and a ferry sinking too. I could be wrong, but they were not well received by audiences so they went back to air disasters.
@@MilesL.auto-train4013 You were right, they had 3 episodes the branched off into a Spin-Off series called “Crash Scene Investigation” . And they only made 3 episodes, which is the 1989 El Cajon Pass Train Derailment, 2000 Greek Ferry Crash, and 1986 Hinton Train Collision.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
So they made the black residents of san Bernardino live in an area dangerously close to a railroad at the bottom of a mountain with pipelines running through their yard that they didn't know about. Yikes.
30:00 "It looked like everything was fine"..? It just _STOPS_ ..? Based on this you would think the disaster was over. What about the digging equipment puncturing the gasoline pipeline, spraying it a hundred feet in the air where it ignited, burned down a dozen more homes and killed 2 more people?
Gee, google is helpful! From Wiki: "Clerks in Mojave had miscalculated the weight of the train, while the engineer and crew at the head end were unaware that one of the rear helper engines had inoperative dynamic brakes. Hence there was not enough dynamic braking force available to maintain control of train speed during the descent. When the helper engineer realized that the train speed was not being adequately controlled, he made an emergency brake application, which deactivated dynamic braking, resulting in a runaway condition. The train reached a speed of about 100 miles per hour (mph) before derailing on an elevated 35 mph curve next to Duffy Street, sending the head end locomotives and several cars off the high railroad bed and into houses on the street below, completely demolishing them. "Upon retrieving the locomotives' "black boxes" (event recorders) and the recorded data therein, it was discovered that the third head end locomotive's dynamic brakes were not functioning at all, although the sound of the cooling fans misled crews into believing dynamic braking was functional. It was also determined after the wreck that the engineer operating the helper locomotives knew of the faulty dynamic brakes on one of his units, but did not communicate that information to the head end crew. The combination of weight miscalculation, poor communication and faulty brake equipment resulted in a total train weight that was too great to adequately control on the downgrade. Once dynamic braking had been defeated by the helper engineer's emergency brake application the enormous weight of the heavily loaded cars caused rapid acceleration that could not be resisted solely by mechanical braking. The train catapulted from the 35 mph curve next to Duffy Street, scattering locomotives and cars..."
@@phprofYT It would be nice to have scientific teachings over ordinary things, like applied physics. I would love to watch a channel like this. If you ever want to go that route, let me know as I want to subscribe. 😄😎
Mayday used to do special episodes with other forms of disasters that involved transportation. To remind that airplanes are not the only vehicles that can crash.
this from the video's description " Smoke from melting brakes begins pouring out from under the cars. 7551 has become a runaway train" brakes do not melt, if they did, they would be pretty useless. they get hot and lose their ability to create friction, but they do not melt. And what the heck is an aviation channel doing covering a train accident. trains don't even have cockpits.
Really? This isn't a joke? It would be far better to make a new channel for various disasters than to put a train wreck on channel specifically named for AIR DISASTERS. I followed this channel for AIR DISASTERS.... You lost me with this one. Best of luck.
@@outofbluepills Wooooooow! That's Deeeeeeeeeep! I never thought of that before! What a life-changing experience this has been. You are a genius... You should be a philosopher... But, most of all, I respect you for speaking your mind.
@@outerfroggy1 Go ahead and assume I am not doing them a favor by letting them know when they lose some of their audience. You a smart one for sure. Dur dur dur...
Watch part 2 here: ua-cam.com/video/GEi7WbJTisM/v-deo.html
Thank you, what an interesting story, very sad.
Thanks. Keep em coming by the Tonnes
Some people seem to complain about the fact that this isnt an air disaster, but the fact that these guys can make any disaster into a stunning documentary is pretty amazing.
Sadly I don't think this spinoff lasted very long, as it also wasn't recieved well when this series was originally aired on TV.
That's too bad. This is done really well, and is equally as interesting as the plane episodes.
Train catches fire, you need the oxygen in air to even have fire. Therefor train was most likely inside air.
This was an actual spinoff? I didn't realize. NTSB (etc) investigations in general are pretty fascinating. Just when a "cause" has been found, you realize that's only one part of a much bigger chain of events to look at. And so much time and effort goes into finding just one aspect of the cause.
Just a really helpful way to think about cause and effect in other aspects of life. We often find one or two things and forget to keep looking.
I will watch whatever these guys put out!
Actually its a good sign - it means there werent enough plane crashes!
Me who finds a train disaster on an aviation channel: "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
this was also my thought too lol
lol i realised
I was thinking the same thing lmao
@DjCole100 lgalalsldlallals hmm lll
Exactly lmao.
Having to live in San Bernadino is bad enough, getting your house obliterated by a derailed train on top of that must be crushing.
Literally
@@foopys3270 😄
*puts on sunglasses*
YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Gives you a good reason to move at least
Can you imagine taking a nice lengthy warm shower and getting hit by a train, then surviving? Obviously this man has an angel on his shoulder. And certainly, his showers must be under 30 seconds now.
This is surely reason to remove the little plastic flow restrictor in your shower head.
More water = faster showers = less likely to get hit by a train.
I removed mine and have yet to be hit by a train while taking a shower
He must be a skilled person
This required a magnificent reaction and good awareness
What a terrifying feeling ...your massive mode of transportation is out of control, you don't know why or how to stop it, and you're heading right into a community.
Oh, mayday does rail incidents too? Would like to see them present Lac Megantic rail disaster. There is a lot to discuss with that one.
Mayday did a few episodes of incidents back in 2005 as a spin-off series. this is one of them.
@@byakugan249 Ooh. Thats right. Has it been that long.
These miracle survivor.rescues always bring tears.
Air disaster!? No train disaster…still I’m going to watch it!
two days ago, a freight train stopped where i live because a car was on fire, the fire department and hazmat took hours and the traffic closed 3 streets. it was a nightmare
I don't know why I find these mayday episodes so entertaining but I do, maybe that's how I die🥴😵
It's not how I die. You won't catch me on a plane or train after watching these lol.
@@lilyrrichard236 The worst ones to me that I have watched is the air disasters when the plane does a straight nose dive for thousands of feet, that has got to be s**t your pants scary before lights out😱
@@lilyrrichard236 planes are safer than cars though
"Run the pipe, we've got cars worth more than those homes"
Welcome to humanity.
Episode 2: Everything was not fine.
I'd be so embarrassed being found naked lol.
This is the first time in my life seeing aviation channel posting train crashes.
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
George is getting upset !!!😠👍😁
Welcome to the best episode of Mayday!
We have a "slight problem"
Famous last words
Trains are much like airplanes: Do not screw around with them, because they're giant speeding death machines.
Damn this was more intense to me than a plane crash for some reason lol
The expression "train wreck" is justifiably intense.
I was living in Los Angeles County when this happened and it was one heck of a week! Find the full video and see what happened next.
(Conductor) "MAYDAY MAYDAY"!
(dispatch) "Come in 7551"
(Conductor) "We have a slight problem"
As the train proceeds to demolish an entire neighborhood. Also who says "we're all over the ground in a situation that exponential?
We had the same in Canada, 8 years ago, but much much worse. It killed 47...the cargo was crude oil
Where? Wanna look it up
Lec Magantic (spelling?) a French town in Quebec.
And another accidebt in 1986 which mayday has uploaded in this channel
You need to do more of these
well... the show still revolves around the NTSB, ridiculous as it's sounds still makes sense if you look at it in a way.
I will never understand how the two engineer's in the rear engine were not told nor asked the weight of the freight?
Exactly, or realized what exactly turning the emergency on brakes would do.
@@questofknowledge8788 they probably knew, but since they didn’t know the real weight of the train, they probably assumed that the emergency brakes would work.
I didn't notice this wasn't the usual plane crash. There are channels on youtube that cover this sort of thing.
Southern Pacific Train MJLBP1-11, also known as 7551 East, was practically doomed from the get go.
Oh so that was its designation. Didn’t know that until now.
in 2020 i was a bus operator trainee, had just moved into the area and my training supervisor brought me to Duffy Street, thats when i learned about the Duffy Street disaster, i was so shook about the tragedy i had to pull over and give myself a moment and also the victims.
San Bernardino is NOT a good place to raise a family what
Why not?
Remember this happened almost 40 years ago. I bet it was very different from what you see today.
This happened in 1989. 32 years ago. Places change.
Referring to crime maybe? Idk what crime there is like now.
Ah California the State I was born an raised. Wait 1989? Both devastation took place 1989?
Man so this was in May of 1989 I was in second grade; but, come September, I was a 3rd grader.
I lived through October 17, 1989 the Loma Prieta, Earthquake. I'm not kidding. It's also known as the World Series Quake.
My mom had just gotten off the Double-Decker Cypress Freeway the 880 5 Minutes before it Collapse.
We lived less than 5 minutes away from that same Freeway.
My mom likened those days to Vietnam because of all the helicopter's flying overhead an by a week Mom could smell the bodies on the Freeway.
I don't remember smelling those dead on the Freeway on the Air.
I just hadn't realized what a busy Year that 1989 had been.
I think the same Month this happening in San Bernadino, over in Sioux City, Fall's, South Dakota there was a an Airplane Crash.
It was a DC-10 a part of the plane somehow fell off while in Flight and the result it crashed.
NTSB an other investigator's didn't find the missing part that fell off until October same month of when the Earthquake occurred.
I learned of the tragic plane crash through 30 Seconds from Disaster & Mayday Air Crash Investigation's.
Oh an a Happy Time for me in 1989, twice Oakland A's won the World Series & the 49ers led by Joe Montana an Jerry Rice won The Super Bowl.
This is a good video
The moment I seen the cargo. A single thing went through my mind. "Dust explosion". It would certainly be possible and would make any disaster increase in severity 2-3 times.
If that happened? I don't know. I just started watching.
No explosion yet. They certainly got lucky. If the cargo lit, half the town would have been gone right then.
28:30 There's pressure to get the gas moving again
AHHAHAHAHAHHA no pun intended but XDDD
Me: (Watching an Aviation Marathon.)
ASDF Guy: "I like Trains."
Me: Oh "s***!"
- Current Video starts playing -
Me: "Unexpected... but I'll accept this."
Cajon pass. Are there shows for the other 2 train wrecks?
Back in the day when the people wanted to live on Duffy street they would often complain about train noises until this accident happened and not only that days after the derailment happened a gas pipeline exploded burning and destroying more houses and the residents that lived there fearing another disaster had either left or moved away Duffy street for good 🚂💥
isnt it easier to just say " we derailed " than " were all over the ground ".. i hope the home owners insurace covered this.
Railroad jargon, mainly.
Not quite. A derailment in itself is not an uncommon thing. Wheel comes off, but most or all cars are still upright. A derailment doesn't really carry across the severity. But "all over the ground" while Jargon means that the train itself has completely jumped off the tracks on a large scale.
@@russelljacob7955 yeah, exactly.
@@russelljacob7955 makes sense
>move in next to train tracks
>hates trains near house
When will Part 2 be uploaded?
Just search it in youtube, you can find the full episode.
The second half of episodes are always uploaded on Wednesdays.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
I guess we know where San Bernardino's "red line" was initiated 🤨
Wish they would finish the episode instead of cutting it off.
“Air disaster”…
Press X to doubt
I like trains.
I must say I subscribed to an air disasters channel for air disasters not railroad disasters
Shocking idea, but you could just not watch it. Blows your fricking mind, I know.
Do you know what caused the train to derail?
Not yet. Gotta watch it first.
Nope don’t have to watch. I am though. It was speeding.
Lack of communication between the teams about the size of the cargo.
@@kgotsodon5735 And 3 out 6 Locomotives not working.
Train was heavier then they thought and also some units did not have functioning dynamic brakes. Both factors created too much weight for the trip down grade.
San Bernardino? A nice place to live? To raise a family? I don't think so.
Sleepy little town as well. Almost funny it wasn't a straight up lie. If this narrator wants to see "sleepy little town" he needs to visit my area.
At the time this happened. 😎
This was 32 years ago.
To be honest, I wouldn't doubt it. Communities change with time, but people always seem to remember them at their worst.
Urban renewal.
17:09 oh nooooo !
if this is PART 1, where is the link in the description to the other part?, as this is what we normally find.
Part 2 was obviously not published yet - as of the time of writing this comment this is the last published video on the channel.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
15:30 "We have a slight problem" - no you have a HUGE problem. Dont be coy - you had a hard time getting ahold of him on your radio; if you lose him again youve wasted your shot by playing games when emergency assistance could have already been on the way!
Where's the ending??!!
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
Mayday AIR disaster : talking about a a TRAIN crash
Me 😵💫🤔
I think this is when they tried to branch out a bit and do other disasters, there's another train wreck and a ferry sinking too. I could be wrong, but they were not well received by audiences so they went back to air disasters.
@@MilesL.auto-train4013 You were right, they had 3 episodes the branched off into a Spin-Off series called “Crash Scene Investigation” . And they only made 3 episodes, which is the 1989 El Cajon Pass Train Derailment, 2000 Greek Ferry Crash, and 1986 Hinton Train Collision.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
WHERE IS PART 2.....
Be patient. It’s being uploaded tomorrow.
To find a complete description of this disaster, go to "Horrifying Runaway Train: San Bernardino Train Disaster SP 7551 East" on the UA-cam channel "Wonder."
서울발 여수엑스포행 무궁화호 1517호 탈선사고 원인은 정기관사 정씨가 곡선을 직선으로 잘못 인식하면서 제한속도 시속 50마일 이하로 운행해야 하는데 정기관사 정씨는 제한속도를 위반하고 평소처럼 시속 127마일로 과속했다.
Well, I can't deny, the train is in air on tracks too...
Hellava plane.
This is an airplane channel, right?
They cover transportation disasters
So they made the black residents of san Bernardino live in an area dangerously close to a railroad at the bottom of a mountain with pipelines running through their yard that they didn't know about. Yikes.
30:00 "It looked like everything was fine"..? It just _STOPS_ ..? Based on this you would think the disaster was over. What about the digging equipment puncturing the gasoline pipeline, spraying it a hundred feet in the air where it ignited, burned down a dozen more homes and killed 2 more people?
Thumbs down for cutting the video short. There at least another 20 minutes missing. Namely the pipeline blowing up and the final investigation.
They break up some of the episodes in 2 parts - it actually tells "PART 1" in the description.
RIP
This is a train disaster. Oh, well.
I dont get it, so what causes the derailment????? Why did the train not slow down??????
Gee, google is helpful! From Wiki:
"Clerks in Mojave had miscalculated the weight of the train, while the engineer and crew at the head end were unaware that one of the rear helper engines had inoperative dynamic brakes. Hence there was not enough dynamic braking force available to maintain control of train speed during the descent. When the helper engineer realized that the train speed was not being adequately controlled, he made an emergency brake application, which deactivated dynamic braking, resulting in a runaway condition. The train reached a speed of about 100 miles per hour (mph) before derailing on an elevated 35 mph curve next to Duffy Street, sending the head end locomotives and several cars off the high railroad bed and into houses on the street below, completely demolishing them.
"Upon retrieving the locomotives' "black boxes" (event recorders) and the recorded data therein, it was discovered that the third head end locomotive's dynamic brakes were not functioning at all, although the sound of the cooling fans misled crews into believing dynamic braking was functional. It was also determined after the wreck that the engineer operating the helper locomotives knew of the faulty dynamic brakes on one of his units, but did not communicate that information to the head end crew. The combination of weight miscalculation, poor communication and faulty brake equipment resulted in a total train weight that was too great to adequately control on the downgrade. Once dynamic braking had been defeated by the helper engineer's emergency brake application the enormous weight of the heavily loaded cars caused rapid acceleration that could not be resisted solely by mechanical braking. The train catapulted from the 35 mph curve next to Duffy Street, scattering locomotives and cars..."
Air crash investigation?
Made by Cineflix (who makes ACI) as part of their Crash Scene Investigation spinoff.
One of the rarer episodes not involving an airplane. Wish they did more "TRAIN CRASH INVESTIGATION"
Well, it was airborne for a second or 2.
@@phprofYT It would be nice to have scientific teachings over ordinary things, like applied physics. I would love to watch a channel like this. If you ever want to go that route, let me know as I want to subscribe. 😄😎
So, why rail disasters?
seen
Was there a DeLorean in front?
17:22 💀
San Bernardino has some great Mexican food but too much crime and too much unbreathable smog.
Yay top 40 likes and top 15 comments
Well, since a couple cars left the ground as the train crashed, I guess they were technically in the "air"...
So air disaster applies.
😂😂😂
"A new development full of growing families"
What they meant to say: "the hood"
why is this on the AIR disaster channel? am confusion
same
Made by the same people, for the same program.
@@ashipnerdoffical4260 ik
but they should make a train channel for this
@@dankmemes5432 No point, there are only I think 2 episodes dedicated to trains, and a single one dedicated to a boat accident.
Mayday used to do special episodes with other forms of disasters that involved transportation. To remind that airplanes are not the only vehicles that can crash.
Putting a pipeline under railroad tracks. Then restarting it after the derailment because greedy
Las Vegas insisted on it. Duh. 🙄Greed and stupidity.
It's not under the railway tracks, it's a underground gas line alongside the railway tracks.
@@justinlynch3 thanks for clarification. I heard it referred to both ways, wasn't sure.
ah yes "air disaster"
They cover transportation disasters
Why weren't they going crazy on the phone to try to have cops and firemen evacuate at least a few people.
This happened in the 80s they ddnt have cell phones
@@beth1188
True.... They had short wave radio frequencies direct to emergency services and depot checkpoints.
First 😁
What does this have to do with "Air Disasters"?
OT
No mames wey
Killican measurements by the narrator SUCKS!!!!
Isnt this supposed to be AIR disaster?
Well...the front of the train DID go AIRBORNE when it came off the track, so...
this from the video's description " Smoke from melting brakes begins pouring out from under the cars. 7551 has become a runaway train" brakes do not melt, if they did, they would be pretty useless. they get hot and lose their ability to create friction, but they do not melt. And what the heck is an aviation channel doing covering a train accident. trains don't even have cockpits.
Second lol
Really? This isn't a joke?
It would be far better to make a new channel for various disasters than to put a train wreck on channel specifically named for AIR DISASTERS. I followed this channel for AIR DISASTERS....
You lost me with this one.
Best of luck.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
@@outofbluepills Wooooooow! That's Deeeeeeeeeep!
I never thought of that before!
What a life-changing experience this has been.
You are a genius... You should be a philosopher...
But, most of all, I respect you for speaking your mind.
@@outofbluepills Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you
😂😂😂
Lol yes multinational tv conglomerates are solely responsible to your happiness only
@@outerfroggy1 Go ahead and assume I am not doing them a favor by letting them know when they lose some of their audience.
You a smart one for sure. Dur dur dur...
27:48 why is crookshanks digging holes?