Sony BVM D24 - Testing and Overview
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
- Here's a video about a Sony BVM-D24E1WU: A 16:9 widescreen "HD CRT" with zero lag and every resolution supported! Let's try it out!
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Cool video! I own one of these and beside the obvious primary use for 16:9 480p games on PS2/NGC/Wii I absolutely love the PS3/X360 720p games on this monitor as they're so sharp with native display
Really good, in depth review. I have an A24, and I really can't wait for the CastleMania BKM 68X clone to finally ship.
Starting to doubt this will ever happen 😅
When one of my friends showed me this, I said it looks like one of the TVs you find on show or movie sets
Exactly!!! :)
Thank you very much for this review! I’m dreaming about this one.
I want exactly that whole bundle.
My dad has one of these beasts that allegedly was used on the set of James Cameron’s Avatar, with very few hours on it
That's awesome!!!!
That's really cool. Is there any practical reason why it would be used in the production of a modern film like that? If it ain't broke don't fix it? Surely the cutting edge LCDs for video production are vastly superior.
@@nuvotion-liveI don’t know, we’re they? Keep in mind it was still 2008-2009, with a possibility of being even earlier as a film like that with all the cgi was probably even harder to make back then…
This dude must be kidding lol that movie was 2008 it def would still be used hell it was probably men made since 2005 lol ..the switch to digital didn’t even start to happen until 2012
Two of these sold in the UK last week for around £1200+fees each. It always surprises me how much more expensive BVMs are in the US.
Where? On ebay?
One very cool thing I saw somebody do on a D24 recently was playing TMNT: Shredders Revenge at its native 270p 60hz from a PC.
Not a lot of CRTs can do 270p at 60hz. Plenty can do it at 55hz but that causes motion judder issues in the game
Wow they are beautiful
I beat link’s awakening on my XBR960 it was awesome
I don't often feel jealousy, but I do when I see monitors like that!
When it comes to modern games, nothing beats a high-end PC CRT monitor, such as the Sony G520/C520/F520/E530 21" 4:3 monitors, or the Mitsubishi 2070SB/2060/LaCie Blue III or IV, the infamous Sony FW900, nothing can beat those when it comes to image quality, refresh rates, motion clarity, shadow detail, image depth and so on, modern PC games with a high/mid-range GPU paired with any of those monitors is just completely next level, Pyschonauts 2 @ 1920x1440 85Hz looks absolutely jaw dropping on my Sony E530, and even @ 85Hz it feels silky smooth, even 60Hz is smooth on a CRT, I can also play it @ 120Hz if I lower the resolution a little bit, FPS games @ 160Hz 1280x960p are incredible, every single frame is just perfectly clear and smooth, not even 175Hz QD-OLED come close, even 60Hz feels smoother than 175Hz on an OLED, don't get me wrong, the QD-OLED is nice, and it's a big improvement, but it will take 1000Hz+ to feel as good/smooth as a CRT monitor does, and you then need to have a GPU that can run the game you are playing @ 1000FPS, which will take a huge advancement in GPU power to pull off, the latest GPU's can barely manage 120FPS in the latest titles, perhaps true multicore GPU's will help with that, but realistically they are going to have to produce QD-OLED gaming monitors with proper native rolling-scan, that way they will be almost CRT level as far as motion performance even @ 60Hz, I canny wait for 240Hz QD-OLED with native rolling-scan, or even 480Hz, we will finally have superior display tech for modern gaming, especially when 8K QD-OLED is available, Imagine an 8K 480Hz 16:10 32" QD-OLED with rolling-scan, a full fat Nvidia G-Sync hardware module with the usual features as well as built in integer line multiplication for upscaling lower resolution content without too much reduction in quality (like the retrotink 5X does), built in ability to add CRT scanlines both vertical and horizontal for an authentic CRT look, maybe even the ability to add anti-aliasing on the fly like the Mclassic does, will be great for people who don't have access to a CRT any more, a gaming monitor that is incredible for modern games and also good enough for retro gaming, would be amazing to have something like this available to buy finally on the modern market.
There is one in my area for sale. Only 5 grand! Beautiful stuff!
I was lucky enough to buy one for about 1500€ in 2018. Sadly, after barely using it since, I noticed this summer that it wouldn't boot anymore (the overload light turns on shortly after power on).
I don't know of anyone in Belgium that can service these so I guess my only option would be to learn to recap and hope that it's just a fried capacitor on the flyback...
These are pretty serviceable, so if you're really careful, you can remove the boards and send them out to be worked on.
Hello RGB Master! I have a bvm D24 and have mostly used it with 240p and 480p consoles. I'm thinking of buying a component hdmi adapter to play with xbox series and ps5. Do you recommend putting the adapter in 720p or 1080i?
I'd strongly recommend NOT getting an adapter that has a resolution switch, as they most likely include scaling circuits that add lag. Your best bet is to get one of the lagless HDMI to Component Video converters I link to in the Amazon shop, then manually setting your console to 720p: retrorgb.link/cheapdac
Could this work with a HDMI to SDI converter?
Only in 720p.
Anyone else notice the “tilt” of the screen? That it’s ever so slightly turned to the left in relation to the frame of the screen.
When he was on the alignment screen I kept saying "Hit the rotate option!!" Just need to nudge it a few ticks, but dang, OCD was kicking in lol.
LOL, yeah, I finally got to it at the end. The issue was my camera was tilted one way and the screen another, so it looked a lot worse than it was. Super easy fix though!
@@RetroRGB it didn’t look bad at all. There’s just that tiny little bit that you could see that was making me literally say rotate rotate lol.
I could not stand watching that tilted picture 😆
Hi Please can you help me on this question please? I'm really a novice when it comes to the sony monitors, and could really do with some help and guidance :)
I would like to know if I can connect my gaming pc windows 10 using a hdmi output from my geforce titan xp graphics card to a Sony PVM 20M4E RGB/Component Professional 800 line Monitor? If yes then could you suggest the cables, or converter I would need? Thanks In Advance :)
You seem to be the most Knowledgeable person I watch on youtube.
Thanks for the kind words! You'd need a downscaler, to convert the PC's signal to 15KHz. This one is good for 480i: www.retrorgb.com/480i-downscalers-tested.html
For 240p, you'd probably want the GBS-Control, or RetroTINK 5x. Check this channel for more info on both.
@@RetroRGB I Own the retrotink 5x :)
@@RetroRGB thanks for this, means a lot, its so overwhelming the info out there, I knew you would be the right person to ask :) thankyou so much
This video is one of the best ways to showcase how what is otherwise one of the best CRT monitors is absolutely terrible when there's light on in the room. These just beg for absolute darkness.
If i have a consumer grade CRT TV, and has component input (5 colors) and my Scart Switch has RBGs (6 colors), how can i get Sync?
Convert the RGBs to YPbPr (component) with a transcoder like the RGB2COMP. The Y (luminance) of YPbPr carries the sync.
Are the European models able to be used in the states?
You'll want to double and triple check before buying...but as long as the power supply an support both voltages, then yes.
How does it handle 480i??
Perfectly. I should have showed that! Sorry!
@@RetroRGB I would be delighted to see you talk more about 480i. It would have been especially cool to see your 20L5 compared to the A and D series 480i handling. There is so much variance in how 480i ends up looking on various screens, but it just doesn't photo well.
I have the opportunity to get one of these. But I already have 2 sony pvm 20l5, mostly used for retro gaming. Will this be a worthy upgrade?
If you play a lot of 16:9 games, yes. If you mostly play 4:3 games, not really. LOL, the BVM purists out there might be upset at me for saying that, but I'm just being honest :)
@@RetroRGB thank you.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
I use flat panels for my 16:9 stuff. I feel like it's more of an I want it then I need it.
LOL, 90% of my CRT's are more want then need. Up to you :)
Could you please expand on your thoughts about why you don't think anything should be stacked on top of BVM's and such? Is it a simple matter of various items not having the weight distribution of stacking monitors? Are there actual points on top that could damage something internal if too much weight is focused there?
I have console up on top of mine and am wondering if I should rethink that. To be honest if I left them bare they would become cat beds.
Having light consoles on top is totally fine; N64, Genesis, SNES, etc. I wouldn't put a CDi on there. Or another PVM.
Would you consider this kind of top tier BVMs for TATE gaming or do you prefer “lower” models, or maybe other solutions?
It would be perfect if you can put it on its side. I think I saw some UA-camr who does that with CRTs and a Mister, I think. I can't remember who, though.
I get that but I don’t know if I would. I fear yoko-tate-yoko… would damage a monitor in the long period. I ended up with 2 PVMs, one always TATE; it’s ok but it eats up a lot of extra space. ^^’
I used my 4:3 PVM in TATE mode all the time. I never had issues.
I'm not sure I'd use a 16:9 one though, as these are so rare, I wouldn't want to risk slipping and dropping it or anything.
Great indepth Video :) I can only find one of these TVs in the united kingdom, and the price is $3,621.97 is that how much these rare crt go for?
All depends on the accessories and condition. One as nice as this one, that's already been recapped and calibrated go for a LOT more.
@@RetroRGB very nice, if you don't mind me asking what was the device you was using with the mega cartridge? I love my gadgets me lol
@@RetroRGB ive found one of these a lot cheaper, Sony BVM A20F1M 20-inch is this as good for retro gaming?
I have 2 of these. They are incredibly sharp. Makes my 32" Sony hd CRT look blurry by comparison.
By the way if anyone lives near Las Vegas and is looking for one I will eventually put one of these for sale. I also probably will sell off a really nice 20f1u, 2 14l5s and a mint 14m4u.
Maybe willing to trade something for a nice JVC pro monitor or key comic books.
Hello, I have a JVC DT-V1900CG to sell in a excellant condition with 3 slots (RGB, 2 components) and a layout for 16/9. I live on Switzerland so maybe you can sell with UPS or something like that
Just sold one of my D24s, totally worth it. Worth more than a FW900!
@@pt_samurai474 I would trade 1 of mine for an FW900. I'd have the best of both worlds
@@strife_7 I would love to trade one of my Sony's for that as I have 11 pro Sony monitors but sadly no JVC.
I plan on keeping a D24, D20, D14, 14l5 and a 2030.
I definitely don't want to ship a D24 as it's way too big and heavy. I would be worried it would get damaged in transit. I think your JVC is much lighter. I'll probably be willing to ship a 14l5 as they are pretty small and not that heavy.
@@wg8561 Okay, no problem, thanks for your answer.
Órale!
Do light guns work on this?
Yup!
excuse my butt !🤣🤣🤣
My boyfriend has this exact model and he's selling it,