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Saturday morning has officially started.
Yep, I'm here for it
My son-in-law Was doing a buildout on his A-frame. When he pulled down the dry wall he found the whole house’s electrical work was done with EXTENSION CORDS. I am not kidding. He all but had a heart attack.
My personal favorites are open junction boxes... Or the live wire I found floating in my garage wall! 🤦
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A church we attended in Pendleton had been previously a golf course office or something. The insulation was doubleknit clothing.
Keep in mind when buying a hot tub: maintenance and filtration!!! My Dad has been in hot tub sales for decades and I worked as a maintenance tech for a bit myself. Make sure you do your research and don't let the sales people use scientific words to intimidate you. It doesn't matter how many colors the LEDs can do or how many jets there are, if your water gets dirty and is a pain to maintain. There are systems advertised as "maintenance free" but even those do require maintenance (just not as much). The amount of tubs that had nasty green water that we had to revamp because people thought "it was sold as no maintenance!" is more than I care to admit. Make sure whatever you get, it's not just a deck ornament and is actually something you can maintain and monitor long term. You'll enjoy it that much more.
I love this... it's as if "This Old House" and "New Yankee Workshop" had a baby program in 2024... Love it!
You are one of the best channels on UA-cam. Thank you for your contribution to my entertainment.
The birdcalls at the beginning are so peaceful I felt about 20 lbs of stress lift from my shoulders.
When you said “a lot of balls up in the air”, I kind of expected you both to fling your feet up in the air so your balls would be elevated 😂😂😂
I just saw a similar comment below, but I came here to say: You might consider installing a small area of stone (any of your bathroom floor options would be great) right inside your front door, sort of like a permanent stone doormat. It's common in Canada, and I've seen it all over Europe, too. If you build a little storage bench there you can deal with wet/muddy shoes on the stone surface and protect your wood floor. If you plan ahead you can make sure the stone is level with the wood floor.
Bring that airstream up and spend time there working on the house, cause I know you got nothing else going on😂
I'd like to make an suggestion for the inside of the front door... Since the location tends to get a lot of snow... And even with the covered front door on the outside to keep weather intrusion down, and that is to add a tile section to keep any water damage to the floors from occuring. I'm sure the wife will need to approve this... But, it's something I wish my house had since i have no coverage outside of my front door.
I really think all those wires behind the shower added a certain adventure to your morning routine!! I mean water +electricity is always a fun combination!😂
Original remodelers... We'll just hide this wire rats nest with this fiberglass tub/shower and no one will ever know... 🤔
Don’t need coffee to jolt you awake!
It’s really wild what you can find behind fiberglass tub surrounds!! I recently redid my two bathrooms and when I pulled out the fiberglass inserts there was vents not in the wall and non insulated external walls!! In both tubs!! We also wondered why the bathrooms got so hot in the summer (luckily we’re in Arizona so there wasn’t a freezing issue but man!! $7 of insulation saved!!!
Thanks for the update on the cabin. Always enjoy watching your videos.
You're wrong about floating floors! Well, really, I don't actually know... but I didn't want us to let you down.
I support this.
@@arnefines2356 No, Mr. Moth was wrong about solid wood vs. floating floors. He said the “wear layers,” or the amount of solid wood above the tongue, was about the same with both floating and solid wood flooring. This is very wrong. The oak that I’ve used in my home has 5/16 ths of wood ABOVE the tongue layer. Mr. Moth said it was “about the same” as a floating floor, which he estimated to be 1/8 th thick. (He was being generous, it’s typically a bit less.) So, compare 2/16 ths to 5/16 ths, and you get OVER TWICE the amount of wood in the wear layer.
Further, there are many, many more advantages to solid wood flooring. For starters, Mr. Moth will be struggling later when he sets all the cabinets, islands, and other large furniture/built-ins in place. A floating floor must be allowed to do that-float-and he risks pinning it down in place and having it buckle. Search for You Tube videos on this, there’s plenty.
This Old House - Bourbon Moth Style. Can't wait to see the progress on this huge project.
Suggest large tile for the showers, less grout lines that need to be cleaned each year. Also we have always put a mirror behind our stoves (cooktop) since much easier to clean than grouted tile. Using the tiles you picked out means you will be spending time each year cleaning grout lines (or paying someone else to do this). JMHO And I was one of the many who knew you would need to replace the beam you took out. Last year's low snow load and the fact that God loves structural engineers more than any other engineer is what has saved you so far. Why does God love structural engineers? Because a structure will go into all possible configurations available prior to finally falling down.
Have you considered hydro radiant heat under the floors? It seems extremely efficient and should make the house super comfortable (no forced air, zone control, etc). I'm considering for my home and there is very little good content about it. Would love to see you consider it :)
Cedar shingle roof in the woods? I live in the timber myself. Always considered fire proofing and went with raised rib snap-lock metal roofing. Gave me peace of mind when all the fires were ripping through everywhere. 😊
It was a requirement for that particular development since it was originally built back in the 70's. Don't know if they still require it these days.
@@GregsWorkshopOregonThey don’t. Just from observation, there are more and more metal roofs going into Black Butte.
Thank you for the explanation about solid gs engineered- I’ve been trying to explain this to friends for years and they look at me like I’m dumb and/or crazy
Sounds like you got it all figured out. I hope you've been saving all your pennies. Looking forward to future videos.
Great update on the cabin in the woods!
It will be nice to see you get started on projects in the cabin.
Well done!
Looking forward to this series!
Welcome to the wonderful world of renovations. I've now done 3. And you can guarantee one thing - you will find stuff you didn't expect. Oh, and make sure you put down the proper sheets in the wet areas. Or you will regret it. Especially when using those small tiles.
I live in Eugene and I will definitely be wanting to take a trip to Bend to stay here. The setting is so beautiful, especially with the little pond. Can't wait to see all you do to the house.
I enjoy 90% of the content I watch on UA-cam. Much of it can be both entertaining and educational.
Looking forward to you getting started, hopefully faster than the airstream
Dude so much work! Been there and done that and never again. Have at it! All the best
The place is going to be beautiful.
Very cool can’t wait to see it finished
Really great choice on the bathroom tile
My favorite part of Saturday morning!
Good to see your plans for the country house, Jason.
Dude… I don’t know how ya do it. Running your awesome channel and taking on this monster of a renovation at the same time. I wanna be like you when I grow up haha
The larger the tiles, the less grout. Less grout, means less grout cleaning.
Add radiant floor heating and some mini splits for the summer! Love the combo
I used the same bathroom floor tile in a shower floor and really like it. It was a little tricky to install because the size of the tiles vary for a cobblestone type look. Some reviewers said they pulled all the tile off the backer and placed them individually to keep grout joints uniform.
Well, will be a great adventure!
In the event you need more space in your bathroom, consider an in wall toilet. Kohler has models that fit into both 2x4 and 2x6 walls. Really frees up floor space in a smallish bath.
I like you videos very much and the way you explain your way of thinking in a calm way compared to other hyper-exaggerated content creators. Also, you show that you made mistakes and how you fixed these. What came to my mind, probably too late or too extensive to implement: Radiant floor heating. That stuff like Warmboard etc. Especially for Eastern Oregon where winters or the "interim" periods can be chilly. Since you already ripped out the floors everywhere it would be worth considering. We have a house in Central Europe, exclusively heated by radiant floor heating (low temperature), running flawlessly for now 44 years (no leaks). Installation was under tiles, hardwood flooring, carpet and now vinyl. Especially for high ceilings up to the roof -- yes that was also fashion in the 80s in Europe -- you don't have convections. Furthermore, never cold feet. Guaranteed even if you cannot feel your feet anymore it takes 15 min to reverse that. With the not so insulated homes built back then you might want to keep your forced air just in case. Agreed, it is an additional cost factor. For myself this would be a "must" to have.
Looking forward to this build. It reminds me of when y family Sid this in a cabin we once had.
I have to say I thoroughly enjoy your openings LOLLLLL Oh yeah, the rest of your videos too
Thanks!
That is going to be a pretty place, when you are done.
That weather vain is so cool!!!
But... You know Jason is going to have to change it to his logo 😁
One thing to keep in mind is that hospital white is the new avocado or gold.. a fast way to date your remodel.
😂😂😂 I was just thinking that given what I've seen on this channel so far the house has three choices: white, gray, or black. I made myself laughsnort thinking of a whole house finished in Rubio Cotton White. But what do I know? I live in a house with 114 year old red oak floors. 😂
I painted our brick fireplace with one coat with a roller basically "light" or "dry rolled" and it turned out so good. You can still see the color of the bricks in the pits of the brick and some in the joints but good amount of white. My mom loves it and it's been 2 years and still looks great. Super cheap hack if your on a tight budget. And it looks antique. Love the videos brother
Maybe you could try it in the future if the opportunity presented itself and use it In a video for your viewers as a hack. Anyways just an idea.
You should put the hot tub next to the deck so that you don't have to climb over the side to get in, ideally it would sit just a bit above so you can add a step and have a place to put drinks
I am a GC and build and remodel a ton, for the kitchen since it won't ever really move I set 3/4 ply under the cabinets and leave them about 1/2" short around the edges so that you can still slide your flooring under and make it look like its under there. Lets you put the cabinets in whenever you want and saves a couple bucks on the flooring material. Plus it makes it easy if you ever have to pull your floor up.
Does this eliminate issues with replacement/repair of appliances? As a tech, i see appliances that can't be repaired because flooring was added afterwards.
Just realized: 30 years from now or whatever when (if) you sell this, you can just direct the buyer to your videos so they know EXACTLY what is going on behind the walls and with all the materials. Super handy for documentation.
I have the same subway tile in my kitchen. Good choice
I had a house with engineered hard wood floors and it was PERFECT. The finish is applied in the manufacturing process, eliminating the awful smell of doing that in situ. The boards are flat and consistent. The underlayment makes the floor quiet. Also, sadly, it is currently near impossible to find craftsmen who have a high level of pride in their work. You will be impressed by the engineered floor. 👍
One thing to add when comparing 3/4 HW to engineered is that most (all?)engineered hardwood gets installed with a visible V groove in-between the planks. Nothing wrong with that but just a different look. But one upside to engineered is that if you like the look of wider planks, engineered might be more stable in certain environments and/or require simpler installation where 3/4" HW plank 4" or wider might need costlier glue to prevent cupping.
Had 2 large water leaks on mine. Stayed almost perfect. Hardwoods would have buckled. I’m now a big fan.
What brand did you use?
I did this in my kitchen and wished I had tiled. The dishwasher leaked and caused damage, the water and ice from fridge door also did damage over the years. If I could do it again I would tile.
@@chrisp9127 This is why I always use tile in the kitchen. Damn!
Tile and waterproofing: SCHLUTER BABY!!!!… all the way! Warranty is second to none and absolutely phenomenal! I won’t use anything else. Biggest challenge is finding a contractor that is competent to install it to the manufacturer specifications to be able to get the exceptional warranty. However, you don’t have to have a contractor install it. My sister was able to do two bathrooms on her own following the massive support online and from the Schluter company They also have in person training that is free. They have their own UA-cam channel with instructional videos. I think it’s good for you to have a contractor do this but you should specify in your contract that they have to meet the Schluter manufacturer specifications and make them liable for any corrections. I hope this helps!
You two should do a sit down and have a yarn with whiskey or bourbon, and a cigar once the fireplace and bar is finished and talk about old projects and laughs etc in the future
I put engineered hardwood flooring in my already heavy 34’ Airstream on a diagonal. It’s the best thing Ive done so far! It’s absolutely gorgeous with various shades of light to dark brown. She’s over 10,000 lbs now & still pulls like a dream. Tires are still good after 7 years. I will replace them before I tow her up to Atlanta.
From the video cut to the clip of you almost sawing through those romex till now - it looks like that moment made your beard three shades lighter.
I'm also renovating my entire house (have been for 7 years now!). Currently doing entire t&g 1x6 white ceiling. Next up, all new hardwood flooring. Totally agree with you, NO to the floating floor, for the same reason! We have about 40 free samples lying on the floor now. Think we're going with a Hickory engineered floor from LL Flooring with 3 mm wear layer, nailed down. Hard to find much thicker than that. Good luck on your project!
I would strongly recommend trying the hot tubs out. When we bought ours the ones we thought looked best were NOT the best when we got into them. One even left bruises from the jets! We ended up getting a Marquis spa from the dealer in Beaverton. All the dealers were great about letting us try them out.
Your built-in bunks could be a fun project to design modular bunks that act like built-ins, then generate more plans to sell on your website.
We went for engineered, neutral stain American oak in a herringbone pattern in our kitchen and it looks stunning - highly recommended!
I have the exact same subway tile done for my kitchen, herringbone style though. It's a great choice!
This will be a busy, extensive and unfortunately an expensive renovation but you want it done right and it will be. Exciting for what’s next
As an experienced AirBnB superhost - dont do wood floors. you want your home to be bomb-proof because you WILL get bad guests. Wood floors is just asking for headaches. I would go with a Porcelain tile (which is the most durable) that looks like wood. There are tons of options, gives the same vibe/look but just wont scratch up
I agree. I personally hate that tile, but the logic behind it is sound.
I was going to say the same. If you rent it out go for something like what they use in shopping mall's or something... There are other options than tiles though that look like wood floors but can handle a tractor driving over em
Vinyl planking works well too and waterproof
Think about dropping the hot tub down into the deck. It looks better and makes it much easier to get in and out. Especially for old people (me) or children. One down side is getting to the drain but I just use a sump pump to drain it when it’s time to change the water.
always a good project when a bottle of Weller shows up :)
Dude those are really small tiles, that’s a lot of grout for a rental. I actually like the darker wood for the floor, that’s a big space.
As soon as you said engineered hardwood I screamed "YES!!!" at the screen. It's literally the best of both worlds.
honestly the best part was him sitting and disusing what needs to be done in front of the fireplace
"We can't install the kitchen cabinets until after the flooring is done."
Thank you for doing this right and not the way other youtuberes are doing it.
Depends on the type of floor you’re installing. Floating floors you install after cabinets.
@@mutchler87 Still needs to go under the cabinets.
@@Gitarzan66 no, it doesn’t. It’s recommended to put cabinets on top of floating floor. The flooring needs to expand and contract. Seen several van life people really regret putting flooring underneath their cabinets because now the flooring is pulling apart.
Noooooooo. I moved into a house with custom cherry cabs on top of a vinyl floor. I had to buy a toe kick saw and a ton of multi-tool blades to update floors. Please don’t install cabinets on top of flooring.
If it's a floor product you attach to the subfloor, then put it down before anything else. If it's floating, it needs the ability to do so, and putting cabinets on it can cause problems.
I live in sweden and we often tile a section of the entryway to prevent water damage to the floor. Because snow always follows you inside on your clothes and shoes
As a general contractor in Central Oregon I feel I should warn you of something it seems you are already starting to realize.
Everything. Takes. Forever.
Oregon is in no hurry to do anything.
You're probably not used to this but just be prepared.
Buffalo Trace again! yummmmmm
Actually🤓… most engineered hardwoods are only 1/2” and most real hardwoods are 3/4”, therefore you atleast get one more sand layer before hitting the tongue and groove.
The original master bathroom can be turned into a wet room, open shower and then a claw foot tub 😊 sink and closet can be in the original closet. Usually there is a glass wall next to the shower area
Nice update. Looks to me like you guys have tons of work left before that house is livable!
Good luck. 👍💪☀️👍
Whole home renovations take a while. Honestly, I see this taking you about 18 months to complete.
Can't wait to see what kind of mini-shop you set up in the garage. (let's be honest, you aren't going to haul finished cabinets from your place, out to there.)
Love the coat. Looks like the one I had as a little boy. 😊
Just an idea in the hot tub. We had the same concerns about putting it on the deck. What we decided is we cut out a “hot tub” size hole, poured a concrete pad and sat the hot tub in the deck. It looked great and was easier to get in and out of.
@Bourbonmoth You might want to check out Paradigm Conquest waterproof flooring. A friend of mine did a gut reno of his house on the water (salt) and he did all high end finishes. For floors he went with this instead of wood because of the wear and the elements he needed them to be able to hold up under. Between snow, dirt grit, pine sap, etc., it would seem as though you have equivalent challenges for your flooring. And his floor looks amazing. I didn't know they weren't wood until I asked him. Plus, I bought him a Bourbon Moth hoodie, so you kind of owe us.
I still like solid 3/4” hardwood floors. Can’t beat that.
Same. Explored the engineered path but went traditional. Overall look and feel. I did however think there was more refinishing depth in a standard 3/4 T&G plank vs the 1/8" engineered. This being something I valued for the life of the house beyond my ownership. But I'm trying to confirm if indeed the refinishing depth is the same for both floor types (as described in the vid). I kinda think not...?
I can understand not doing floating floors. But for your average person i recommend it to all my clients. I agree hardwood is a better feel and sound
You're lucky you're in an area where double pane windows are sufficient for reasonable energy efficiency. Way up north here - triple pane is minimum, with argon filling and coatings to further reduce energy loss recommended.
For the bathroom tubs or showers, you will need a backer board for the tiles. You will also need a way to waterproof between the tiles and backerboards/wall studs.
For the most part tiles can be waterproof, but the grout needs treatment and maintenance. So if there is waterproofing behind the tiles, your basicly idiot proofing the walls on the shower.
You will also need to check on the fans in the bathrooms for moisture control. Check the fan piping to see that they are sealed with the proper tape.
I assume the person he hires to tile them will know all that and advise him. He's not the kind of guy to hire the cheapest contractor just to get the job done.
Light oak finish on the floor does help brighten the room - given it will be dark there in the winter, that's a good move
A couple notes from experience with my rental:
On Engineered hardwood, you’re technically right. However, the veneer chipping off will lead to basically every flooring company you talk to will not repair the floor. Often once it chips in one spot the rest of the veneer starts lifting.
When you walk on the floors you own, it’s not a big deal. Renters and especially the couple of AirBnB renters that give a bad name to good renters… can do heavy damage to engineered hardwood.
For a rental, I’d use LVP or refinish the hardwood that is there. Industrial LVP is pretty good as far as feel and thickness, especially in large spans. There is also “Engineered LVP” where the wear layer is vinyl and shouldn’t chip due to the combination of water and wear the same way Engineered Hardwood does.
On your windows, the cool thing these days are European style casement windows. My wife wanted double hung instead and they’re no more energy efficient than the original windows in our home from the 90s. Maybe less so because we also pulled the storm windows off. Basically, unless your seals are blown most energy claims are exaggerated by the people that sell windows. Having single pane from the 70s means you’ll get a benefit, but don’t go nuts. $10k more for the “next more efficient windows” is money better spent on a heat pump or Solar.
Lastly, put your hot tub next to the deck. A loaded hot tub is heavier than parking a car on the deck. You’re low and it’s easy to block/crib, but deck people hate hot tubs except for how much money they make replacing decks damaged by hot tubs.
Check out Carlisle Wide Plank flooring. Engineered hardwood floor with a very very thick wear layer. Very good product.
Jason... For engineered flooring (definitely) check out Carlisle Wide Plank Floors. We went with their "Carlisle, Picture Frame, Engineered, 8 inch face width, 3/4 inch thick" (as printed on the invoice). That was 8 years ago for our oceanfront cottage on the Maine coast. Given the temperature & humidity variations this has performed incredibly well. Ours has white oak top layer complete with a water-based finish and it is rock hard. They make their own flooring on site and below the 3/16" top layer are 10 plywood layers. A great product.
You should have moved a table outside just to have something to slide off of. Just a random table....😄
I can’t even fathom how expensive this rebuild will be. Fun to watch. Must be nice to be able to just pick the highest quality materials and design ideas for every room without even worrying one lick about cost. 😀
How is he able to afford it?
I've installed lapped hardwood floors that are good too
God bless that thumbnail, "Take my strong hand"!!
Buffalo Trace! YAY!
The hot tub on the deck sounds like a great idea, but, remember you have pine needles falling, and even with a cover, them suckers will find their way into the hot tub somehow...seen it happen, have yet to figure out how. Looking forward to the coming series. Lots of work and money about to flow thru your hands and brain, but don't sweat it too much and make this a project that has you in constant battle with your own mind and happiness. Remodels can be quite rough on relationships because you overthink things and disagree on so many things. I've seen 4 divorces of couples I never would have thought would have anything problematic just because of a house remodel, especially a second home or getaway some place else. Take it easy and don't become part of that statistic...please. Take care and good luck. Glad where I live out in the country we don't need someone telling us what we can and cannot do on our own home. I overdo things far beyond what it's the minimum anyway, so no permits needed because I have built mine 3 times above building inspector specs (10 gauge instead of 12 for wiring in conduit where it's not required, 12 inch centers instead of 16 or 24 on wall studs, floor joists, and rafters, etc.).
When my husband and I bought a larger home a woman I worked with told me if we ever remodeled we should move out. Hubby and I then began counting the number of couples who separated/divorced during a remodel and realized she was right.
Build some bunks with a captains style drawer under the bottom and a shelf for a footboard.
Engineered flooring is the way forward. Everything you say is spot on, but in that house, where the temperatures and humidity will fluctuate a lot seasonally it's stability will be invaluable. I fitted an engineered oak floor at home and it's so stable what when I took a risk and tiled right up to it (i know, but I was in a rush) I expected the grout to crack once winter came and the heating was put on but it hasn't moved at all. Amazing Stuff. Oiled floors seem to last better, if you scratch it a bit of WD40 wiped in tends to hide the scratch really well.
I’m watching the video and when you showed us the backyard…. I was like now you can build Iver a tree-tree house!
Don’t know what Internet provider you have up there but I would get them to come in and set it up now. You can run cat5 throughout the house and have the modem in a central location. It’s a big house so you will need extenders for sure. The cat5 wire can hook up to the modem and the jacks in your house so you can hook up your extenders.
Just finished my kitchen remodel (and new hardwood floor). AS you mentioned in your planning, I also waited to install the floor until I installed the cabinets that I had made. However, the floor installer I hired noted that he typically installs floors after the cabinets are installed. They have no problem installing floors around new cabinets - less finish material is needed and less potential damage to the floor. In retrospect, it would have been helpful for me to install the cabs first, from an "order of work" perspective. Not super important, but something to consider as you progress on this project. Good luck, looking forward to watching it evolve.
Will it make the dish washer difficult to replace?
i agree with you on the flooring i did floating in my house and i regret it engineered hardwood is the way to go
I love your coat.
You are 100% right on a cut n click floor. They mostly feel cheap and definitely are not an option for that house.