I really don't understand what concept they are going for because...this lineup doesn't seem cohesive. It seems like they just chose based on who SK and Japan liked. The fact they called this a global gg, yet 1. didn't allow intl fans to participate in the live vote which accounted for 70% of the finale vote 2. didn't choose the most popular trainee amongst international fans, is a joke. Let's be honest, they purposely left us out because they want us to focus on Dream Academy. I hope HYBE or someone else gathers Jiwoo, Jeemin, Chanelle, Jeongeun, Jihyun and debuts them as a group. Maybe even add Funa, and Ruka. THAT would be a cohesive group and would fit the Rubymoon red vampire concept we all thought we'd get. That being said, congratulations to the girls that made it. They worked hard for this. I won't say I will stan the group, it'll just depend on the music and how I'm feeling once time has passed. This should have been a documentary tbh.
Why are we even surprised lmao, these people are always like "international groups" but then have 1-2 members that aren't korean (either chinese or japanese)
I had the same thing about concept. I feel like wonhee and youngseo are completely opposite. I am not going to watch dream academy. It will be same as this one and I will be heart broken. apparently not every company can produce a survival show
Protest Trucks never worked in past. And I don't think it will work in future either. If you want, do a protest with people. But I think it won't work either. HYBE is too powerful they might hire a tear gas truck lol.
Yeongseo was a trainee with newjeans for a couple of years, she was always gonna debut but I feel like this group’s concept isn’t gonna suit her, same goes to minju
jiwoo was not only the most popular trainee internationally but also the one that was most ready to debut. the best vocals, one of the best dancers, consistent and brilliant stage presence, MATURITY. it's rigged, gross and unfair.
Totally rigged only 2 members are 19 so you can see what they were going for. Jeemin > Iroha but they were going for 2 Japanese members so basically because of your nationality you don’t get a chance after all the hard work it’s pure luck
Hilarious how all these international viewers think it's unfair that a Korean entertainment company prioritizes the preferences of the Korean market. Sure, voting has finally opened to internationals (this wasn't allowed until very recently) but that doesn't mean it's some sort of organized democracy. Hybe decided global votes get 30% weight and that's that. It's not "rigging." Stop feeling so damn privileged, it's embarrassing.
I bawled my eyes today that my head still hurts. Jeemin was my number one pick and her not making it hurt me like none of the survival shows yet. They literally made us vote for six girls for the whole week just to take it all from us and make judges decide of the line up. They just wasted our and girls times and could just debut them without this whole mess of a “survival show”. And let me not talk about how Jiwoo and Chanelle were robbed and how a lot of girls were taken just for clout (khm Ruka khm). Good luck to hybe with this girl group cause i see a lot of people that are not satisfied with the line up
Also Moa was my second pick but they also eliminated her as soon as they could, I honestly should’ve known that everything will go downhill but I still had some hope damn it
@@J_jae keita was also one of my main picks but I kinda knew he won’t make it cause knetz didn’t really show that big interest in him but it still hurt BADLY. They all deserve so much better, at least Keita is debuting again soon so we can support him like he deserves
the thing for me is the vibe of the group. i feel like yunah and moka can adapt to any concept. youngseo, iroha, and minju are gonna stick to the badass concept. and wonhee i feel like will only do well in 1-2 types of concepts. i feel like this group is gonna have a weird energy and not be able to pull of different concepts and music because of how different they all are.
I also feel like the girls don't match 😭 I feel bad for saying this but I wish Himena was the last member instead of Yunah because I just don't think she fits with the other girls. I feel like Jiwoo, Jeemin, Yunah & Chanelle would fit together perfectly in a different 4 member group
I thought kepler werent really cohesive as well due to the same reason but i think i'll it is a bit worse😭. The girls(in both groups) are really good but ye, there's a reason why the rigging of izone and fromis 9 was actually a blessing in disguise.
@@myalovesdaniOMG SAME. I LOVE YUNAH SO MUCH THAT AT THIS POINT I WNATED HER NOT TO DEBUT. BC SHE JUST DOESNT FIT WITH THE OTHERS. Yunah, jiwoo, jeemin and Chanelle fit so much together
@@dheujajaa183This line up is has more chemistry in terms of concept. All of them dont look awkward in cute/innocent concepts except Youngseo but it's not really in bad level. And all of them can do badass concept except Wonhee. While in Kep1er members are separated in 3 groups in terms of concept.
The final episode was such a slap in the face that I’m glad I missed the live broadcast😀 I’m happy that Youngseo, Minju and Yunah are debuting because they were part of my ideal lineup, but Jiwoo (who has been sabotaged this whole competition) not debuting is so devastating to me!! I would’ve scanned if she was there since she was my one pick with Yunah, but I don’t think I will. If their music is good I’ll stream but I’ve lost all interest in this group. It would be great if Jiwoo, Jeongeun and Chanelle debut under another group under Hybe because that vocal trio would dominate the industry 😤✊
they lost lots of talented people. not saying that the line up aren’t talented but some of them deserved the spot way more. glad yunah secured her spot. no hate to wonhee but her visuals paved her way to debut..
Best vocal for sure, best trainee that's a stretch. She definitely lacked in certain areas and that affected her more than expected, I thought she'd still make the group regardless so they'd have a main vocal.
the rigging/manipulation from the past two episodes was just ridiculous. from chanelle being majorily underscored & himena overscored to completely taking out jeemin & jeongeun out of the lineup. im happy for the girls who debuted but i cant help but feel saddened. we don't know what kind of concept we're getting, but if it's teen crush then half of the group's potentional is being screwed over. i most likely will follow yunah & youngseo but rn i have no interest in the lineup. + if it wasnt obvious already, this show is proof that the industry is ageist.
Sadly, but it was obvious from the beginning of the show that Jiwoo wouldn't debut, from the moment of her low level. Judges ignored her the whole show, she received 1 compliment in vocal competition and it was so blant like oh you sang good. Thats all, while Wonhee, Moka, Iroha got long compliments and appreciation. They didn't even said anything to her when they were performing Monster, like wtf? So i watched the finals knowing that our precious Jiwoo wouldn't debut(
They had a perfect line-up in front of them: Yunah, Youngseo, Jeemin, Jiwoo, Minju, and Moka or Jongeun, loved by the public But no they did by their preferences, favorites, and will sink the group I don't even see what concept they could do?? Cute? It doesn't suit, Youngseo, Yunah, Minju. Girl crush, a bit dark, it doesn't suit Wonhee and Moka. At the limit Iroha can fit any concept. If they have a cute concept because of the two minors, it will ruin the talents of the adults in the group.
Moka has already done concepts like this and it went perfectly. Also, just because there are minors doesn't mean they can't do mature concepts, when Iroha and Wonhee did concepts like this on the show.
I feel so bad for Jiwoo. She was the oldest contestant, and known by the others as the best vocalist. And she watched one of the youngest contestant and the contestant with the least amount of training take first place. Don't get me wrong. I do think Wonhee is talented, and she did well in many performances, but I think she still needs more training (such as with her expressions.) She improved so much in such a short amount of time, and she will definitely improve even further with more training. However, I don't think that it was fair that she placed first when there are other talented contestants who had trained longer. And given Wonhee's young age, she would still have future opportunities to debut, and a lot of public support for it too, given the exposure and support she got from participating in the show. There was clear favouritism for her by Hybe (and knetz.) (There are also allegations that Wonhee was lip syncing in some of her performances. I'm not an expert on that, but if it is true, then it is difficult to know how she actually sings in live performances. But I guess the kpop industry is geared towards pre-recorded performances atm anyway, and stans will support and eat up anything...) Because the kpop industry favours younger artists, it is going to be hard for "older" contestants like Chanelle, Jiwoo and Funa to debut, which is why I was really rooting for them, and that is the main reason for my disappointment.
@@Sanas_Shy_Language no matter how much you like a person, if you KNOW you deserve something but that person didn't work as hard as you or isn't as qualified yet still snatched it away, you'd be angry and disappointed too.
Ok, so: Jiwoo, Jeemin, Yeongeun, Chanelle and Himena would DESTROY everything. Next Queens for sure, if they let debut them in ONE GROUP. No more to say
One thing I would like to point out: I-Land 2 is not a collaboration with Hybe anymore, the final group will be produced by Teddy and managed by WakeOne. Hybe recently acquired all the shares from CJ ENM, so while I-Land 2 is marketed as the show that created Enhypen (because it's true), it seems as though the two companies have broken it off (aka Enhypen is a child of divorce who will have two half sisters)
It means “I’ll be it” if I got it correctly. It’s definitely weird though, they really should’ve named them rubymoon like we thought it’d be, it’s much prettier. Though they made it clear in every way that they don’t care what fans want 🤡
Hi I agree Even Queendom Puzzle Project Girl Group EL7Z UP that people don’t like their group name, it’s easier to remember to a certain extent (at least for me personally) then I’LL-IT. Either way both group names are strange choices and I think it might be hard to pronounce and remember for many people.
@@milicamdHi oh I see. I’LL-It has a nice meaning for the group name, I like it when groups have that. But I think the name would make it hard for people to remember and pronounce. Ruby Moon is such a good group name and easier to remember. Such a missed opportunity.
Yeah, but lets try not to affect the gg (which will be pretty hard) because even though not all of our picks debuted, we have to make clear that the problem is in JTBC AND HYBE. Anyways, 4/6 of my picks debuted so i'll do what i can to support them
@vidv1924 It has to affect the groups sales/views/etc. otherwise the company will do nothing different. They don't care if we criticize them online. The only language they speak is money.
@@teatimewiththeia realistically though a boycott now won't affect them. r u next was not popular at all and very few people (especially in korea) actually watched it. once the groups debuts they'll gain the attention of all those that didn't watch the show and weren't invested in the other trainees which will still mean they'll be successful. they're a hybe group at the end of the day. also this is probably the reason that they kind of just did whatever they wanted with the lineup - their new fans at debut won't care about the individual members but more about the group as a whole.
the problem with the lineup is not that the current lineup doesn't deserve it, but there were other trainees who were OBJECTIVELY BETTER than them who deserved it more. everyone and their grandmas could tell jiwoo, jeemin, chanelle and jeongeun could easilu outdo half the current lineup but...yeah
The Jeongeun sneak 😭 Mind you Jeemin can't sing, Chanelle threw a fit over not having lines she wanted, she would have gotten into a scandal 1 week into debut, only Jiwoo deserved to debut out of the ones you listed 😭 and the funny thing is she should have taken dozen Youngseos spot. Even Jeemin was a better singer than that dozen and had better dynamics with the group
@@占-m8i did we watch the same show? like did you see chanelles eyes miss girl was TIRED and OVERWORKED and may i remind you wasnt it wonhee that didnt wanna do the lines because she thought she was wouldnt doo well which caused chanelle to takes those lines and along with her own lines when no one else would no wonder her voice cracked she wasnt given a break before her highnote so pls get it right 😑
Yeah I have a bad feeling about this group, feel like minju and Yeongseo isn’t gonna fit what belift has in plan, that’s why a part of me feels kinda relieved for jeemin - you already know another management is gonna snatch her up
Actually the 4 ppl that were left are actually better than the lineup bffr im not hating or anything but honestly the 4 ppl at the back would fit a different concept tho Zzzzzzzzz
I always thought that Wonhee would be at number 7, because she isn't doing that good with different concepts as other trainees, so I was surprised that she won first place. The concept for them is going to be very weird for the first 2years ig
If Jiwoo not being chosen for the debut lineup is becuase of that fact that she's is too old to debut, then I am honestly disgusted. Y'all gonna let go of mature talented trainees like her and have kids who can just kinda sing and dance be in the debut lineup? Great Job Belift!!
I can't imagine how these girls felt training for years only to have someone training at only 1 month debut before them. Hard work pays off; rooting for these girls in the future!
LONG RANT INCOMING!! My top 6 before the finale was Moka, Yunah, Jiwoo, Youngseo, Jeongeun and Jeemin. Very happy for Moka and Yunah making it!! They are really my girls and they deserve it so much. If im being real, aside from Jiwoo i didnt really have attachment to anyone else in my top 6. I picked them because they all werent minors aside from Youngseo whos turning 18. I mean, i liked Minju too but she was never really one of my faves. Aside from them, i really loved Chanelle and Ena in the show!! Chanelle was so unfairly eliminated, i cant believe she didnt even make it to the finals like. With Ena, im a few years older than her so shes like little sister to me lol. BUT I DID NOTT VOTE FOR HER AT ALL!!She had great vocals and improved the most out of all the members, but unfortunately she was TWELVE. Thats an absolute insane age! If she was like 17-ish i wouldve voted for her. I think the only thing that was hindering her was her age. I cant wait for her to debut in 2029 with Himena! I was very disappointed with Jiwoo not making it. I mean, I dont hate Wonhee or Iroha at app but its just :/ to me. I dont even know what the concept of this group will be. Id love to see Jiwoo and Chanelle added to TripleS though! Jaden Jeong THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY SIGN MY GIRLS!!! Also, the group name is awful. WE WANTED RUBYMOON Anyways, this rant all over the place. Im probably gonna solo stan Moka and Yunah. But if the groups music is really good i might fr stan since i dont hate the rest of the lineup. I wish them success though!!!
The problem with Wonhee is not that she is a minor, is the fact that she has too much screen time with no reason, and the judges didn't gave her a bad score for any mistake that she made. So the problem was not her, but all the hate that the misbehavior of the judges created was redirected to her. So yeah, you are right, hate the game, in this case the show, but she represents all the mistakes of the show, sadly.
The lineup is so weird 😭I originally liked Youngseo, Jiwoo, Chanelle, Yunah, Minju and Jeemin. But when Chanelle was literally robbed I thought Moka would fit. But I srsly didn’t think Jiwoo and Jeemin wouldn’t debut! 😭 As for Wonhee, I knew she’d prob debut cause of how BIASED the judges were, but rank 1 srsly? She isn’t as good as ANY of the other girls! And the name ill-itt is just super WEIRD
This lineup is a cluster fuck.. like wonhee? Really!? Iroha and Minju have YG vibes to them so I dunno how they’re gonna make it work. Like you said everything about them is weird, even the name I’ll-IT - gimme a break 🤧
Iroha and Wonhee are already the youngest, they weren't even in a hurry. Extra few year training would be better for them. And I wonder what Moka add to the group that Jeemin, Jiwoo, Jeongeun can't. They turned the group into cotton candy when they could have been a very pretentious group.
The problem with forming groups through a survival show is that people vote based on their favorites and not cohesion. Wonhee got first because korea LOVES Wonhee. I also have a theory which is that hybe wants the group to be teen crush - something like the next itzy but more youthful. And I wouldn't be surprised if they're saving Chanelle, Jeongeun, Jimin and Jiwoo for a more mature/dark concept. IMO, that's where they looked their best because they got a sense of class and elegance to them.
Hybe is desperately trying to make their own version of IVE. Wonhee being 1st is an actual joke. Compare her to LITTERALLY ANY ONE ELSE. She doesn’t deserve it. I don’t care.
I don't think the show made it clear that it'll be judges pick. If I knew it'll be 70% korean votes and 4 picks based on company's pick, I wouldn't have wasted my time voting on the show. I think that's the most annoying part of the show. If they made it clear like &audition did, maybe people won't be so angry.
I think the group name is supposed to be pronounced "I Lit" considering their logo is a flame and honestly as much as I think Wonhee should not get hate over this she was ABSOLUTLY NOT deserving of that place she should've trained more before debuting but ofc the judges (esp Lee Hyun) have rotten brains.
Please dont let that creepy uncle near any judging table for 10 years or so and dont get me started with the other judges like i literally roll my eyes everytime they give criticisms cause many of those doesnt make sense smh
Jiwoo not debuting is my villian origin story honestly. I saw this coming as soon as the first episode happened 🤷🏾♀️ i dont think i wanns watch dream academy for this reason.
also if the lineup was based off votes like EVERY OTHER SURVIVAL SHOW it would be 1. jeemin 2. jiwoo 3. yeongseo 4. minju 5. yunah 6. iroha (it was supposed to be chanelle but she got eliminated before the finale) imagine THIS lineup
little rant but the amount of hate wonhee has gotten is insane. she was never in my picks, my final lineup, nor did i vote for her but good god the hate she's been getting is so fucking undeserved & just downright nasty. there was no protecting wonhee, everyone just threw her to the wolves.
Irritated me so badly how the deer in headlights got no.1 instead of literally anyone else. Why are oir votes only 30%?? The judges aren't the ones stanning them???
No cuz I’m so actually sad Youngseo made it 😭 Idgaf about this show like I didn’t watch a second of it but through reels and clips I started to like Youngseo, Jiwoo, and Chanelle A LOT. I’m happy Youngseo gets to live her dream now, but in THIS group?? The poor thing will have to carry them on her back for the rest of their career- (No hate to the other girls I think Minju is actually quite talented tbh and I mean Iroha was gonna be one of my favorites until I found out her age ;-;) I would’ve actually been fine if she didn’t debut because then she would have a new chance to find another opportunity that will give her a group she deserves; but unfortunately she’s stuck here 😢
You're all embarrassing and should be ashamed of yourselves. Moka and Iroha are very talented as well, and Wonhee will catch up in due time. No one is carrying anyone on their back, and no one is "stuck." You're just delusional because the group wasn't 100% your choosing.
You should realise that if she didn't debut here, she might not be able to achieve her dream of becoming a Kpop idol ever. It's not like you get an opportunity like this every year. Even very talented girls dont get chances to debut. Her being in the line up is better than not debuting at all. Most of the trainees in RU next who didn't make it will not be able to debut. People will forget their names eventually. Now is just recent and people are still bandwagoning. Give it a few months then most of these so called fans will not really care about them anymore.
I just think it’s sad that younger contestants were chosen to debut over older, more trained trainees all in the name of ‘potential’. Hybe and belift mentioned this too in i-land but they value potential a lot and i think that it’s nice to believe in someone and invest in them but that just leaves the older and better trained contestants in the dust. Plus, kpop is a business and as we all know, the younger you are, the more profitable. Older trainees will have a harder time debuting in the future and being successful since sk likes youth and visuals a lot based on my observation and how the trends seem to go…. Wishing success on the group tho and i hope the contestants who didn’t make it will debut soon as well!!
Imagine dumping the whole vocal line lol. Chanel, Jiwoo and Jongeon was introduced as the vocal line!? And Jeemin is literally the perfect visual center and has been voted top3 since the start but the show has been shitting on her since the start. Wtf!!!
tbh i just feel like after not even a whole month of training wonhee just doesn't feel polished enough, like yeah she improved and she's getting better but with that also did people in the show that were ready to debut to begin with, idk i feel like if she trained more she'd be ready to debut, not saying she won't be better once they do debut it's just for example people like jiwoo have rarely any chance to debut (people in korean think 21 is apparently too old) and people like wonhee have the chance to debut even 2 years from now on, it's a shame hybe let go of people like jiwoo, jihyun, chanelle etc.
with that said good luck to i'll it, i'm not a multi stan so i won't stan the group i didn't even think of doing that and i just watched the show cos i was bored but yeah hopefully they won't have a hard time when they debut
They used Himena as an excuse to eliminate Chanelle. Jiwoo not being in the line up was what triggers me the most. Mother was mothering, low-key carrying the entire show and performance. She is the whole package with angelic vocals, great dancing, great facial expressions and visual ( knetz have THE AUDACITY to call her UGLY. She was the visual of show ). She is as well the best leader. Wonhee being 1st is like the show clearly saying that they favors her. Ive seen a lot of rigged show, but that is the most obvious rigged things ive ever seen and tbh they dont even hide it. Wonhee debuting is not bad, but considering the choice of trainee they show us and the most obvious rigging ever, im so salty about it. I also don't understand why they like Japan sm. Personal opinion i hate Japan mens they're f creepy 💀. Ive never taken a like to young japanese trainees not bc of the trainees themselves but like the creepy fans they'll get 💀
im not really happy with this line up, but i wish all the best for the girls...tbh im sad that those episodes were edited so we couldnt really hear them sing. Wonhee should not be number one (im not hating on her or anything) i just think she needs to train more and get over her fear of cameras atc. she's young and she could've debuted better prepared and (mby as adult) in another group, im happy she made it tho and i hope she wont be targeted with hate anymore.
It's really hypocritical that they chose this lineup because the planned group's concept is citypop, cute etc. The whole program is a show. 🤡That's why they prob didn't consider jiwoo as she would suit other concepts more.
Then why they picked Yunah then? People also think that Yunah fits more into the girl crush concept and she doesn’t fit the cute and childish concept. So what’s the excuse😭
I like the group but wonhee coming 1st I felt that something was wrong (I don't hate wonhee tho but I think she can be a great vocalist in the future) i know ever since its started that they favor wonhee but not debuting jeemin, jiwoo, jeongeun, chanelle, moa and funa they we're already ready to debut but i think SK wanted just visuals not talent is just bugging me off. The group name I-LL' IT is seriously ridiculous like who even thought abt the group name . But now that the "survival show" is over we can't do anything abt it anymore it hurts seeing the trainees that have been training for long enough don't debut and they debuted a trainee whos training period is only a month i get that she only trained for a month and she can improved a lot but seriously hybe what we're you thinking huh what are you thinking there was no good vocalists in the group they need jiwoo or chanelle (it still hurts seeing that my fav duo MOCHA and RIVALZ didn't debuted together) but I will support I-LL' IT since chanelle's mom want us to support just like how chanelle support the girls.
I-LAND - Audience shouldn't pick the lineup, the producers should! RUNEXT - The producers shouldn't pick the lineup, the audience should! Yawn.... zzzzz
Jiwoo not debuting is a joke, nobody was more talented overall. I’m happy for the girls that did make it but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t significantly less interested in the group now.
it's a loss for HYBE to let go of their talented trainees because The group DESPERATELY needs the leader & vocal backbone which is Jiwoo. Next, the charisma and aura of Jeemin. I mean she was practically the ace of the show since day 1 as she could pull of any genre given to her. Also jeongeun?? she's literally a center material and she could even be more big if she'll pursue acting. Lastly, my girl Himena who ATE the tie a cherry and nobody stage just by her facial expression. She's the golden maknae period. I wish they could pull off a survival card just like what JYP did with momo and what YG did with baby monster. They're practically invincible with 10 members. Please HYBE reconsider it! Fans of R U Next, please let them know your opinion on the final line up!
Jeongeun is not neglected by hybe but by runext fans. I hate the fact that Jeongeun is excluded by fan votes in last episodes to get Iroha out by adding Moka when everyone knows Jeongeun did the best in every episodes. I could only think of Jeongeun was not in the lineup becuz she could not pull out enough attention that hybe wants.
@@nyeinthitsar6305true that!!! and the show also did her no favors with barely any screentime in the early eps and only gave her decent exposure in the end where there are a few contestants left...that just proves that the typical hybe stans are just pedophile mofos who cant recognize real talent when they see one #facts
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This is a long comment so have fun lol: I was watching the livestream and the second Jiwoo wasn’t selected for the final lineup I just shut it off and couldn’t even bring myself to want to support Ill-It. Jiwoo had been my #1 pick from day one, and she has the most vocal skills, a great dancer, a wonderful leader. All those girls looked up to her and international fans loved her. I do not get why she wasn’t picked. I don’t mind the final lineup, minus Wonhee (if it was wonhee switched with Jiwoo I would’ve been fine). But idk what concept they are going with bc Yunah, Youngseo and Minju’s vibes are different from the others. I think Hybe shot themselves in the foot with a solid fanbase do to the fact that they gave themselves the power to choose the last 4 members, and made it near impossible for global fans to cote for the 70% final part 2. If they just had the normal voting for everyone to participate and let at least 4/6 (if not 6/6) members be picked by votes, I am sure most people wouldn’t be so angry, believing it was the voters who made the decisions. But seeing as Hybe picked the majority of the members, with some decisions that most fans disagree, they brought the anger and loss of fans unto themselves. It was a dumb decision. I would have like it like Iland, where 5/6 members are chosen on voted and the last one is a judges pick. Now, just bc I’m a bit disappointed does not mean I will hate on the group. I am looking forward to Jiwoo’s debut soon, hopefully, but I will listen to the debut of Ill-It and see if I like the music. Please don’t hate on the group everyone. If you don’t like, either simply ignore them or comment in a respectful manner why. Don’t hate.
@@Seowonie12 lol lies she was also companies fav because the judges gave remark for absolutely nothing but her visuals remember in my bag performance she didn't even matched the concept
I think that the girls dont look good together like they wont fit the concept that they are going to have because all of them are so diffrent... I think that only 6 members is too little because there were so many talented trainees i tought that maybe 8-9 members could be in the final line up. Jiwoo, Jeongeun and Chanelle in the group whould have made it such a powerful group vocaly. Jihyun, Jeemin, Youngseo would have been great dancers of the group. If they really wanted to add the visual than wonhee okay but she isnt trained well.. so thats already 7 members and than Ruka and Minju.... Well idk if these girls that i would have wanted to debut would gfit the concept all well but its definetly better than this lineup cuz now this group doesnt have good vocalists. well minju youngseo yunah can sing moka too but their not as good as jiwoo or chanelle or jeongeun so yeah. also i dont like about them debuting only minors. well minju and yunah arent but still they turend adults just now so yeh. also because wonhee hasnt trained for long i dont think she could urvive being an idol because of their tight work schedule strict diets and rules and lots of practise. also lack of sleep. i think that she wouldint survive as a kpop idol because she still hasnt survived as a trainee. idk if it makes sence. yeah and for the 9 member grouo thing idk if they would fit the concept together but what im saying is that those girls are really talented and they could have included them in the final lineup. Also its super unfair that they didnt let internatinal fans to vote and the company itself picked out 4 trainees and only 2 trainees picked the public so its so unfair. sorry for my mistakes english isnt my first lenguage and feel free to tell your opinion..
I find it real hard to see wonhee as a visual...like yes shes very cute but she pales in comparison when were talking about real visuals like irene, nana(irene 2.0), wonyoung, tzuyu etc smh only jeongeun and jeemin could provide that
@@daxxgaming2567 Well your right but because the judges have fvorites tehy would definetly pic her as the visual bacause korean fans also think she could be the visual i dont know..
Remembering the time people were unsure when they first heard i-land group would be ENHYPEN😅 It’s nothing compared to the name I’LL IT 😂 the name 🤣 as an indonesian , makes me think of the word “irit” = cheap
The judges are freaking unfair what's the meaning of voting them they just elimated Chanelle why not Wonhee and how did wonhee debut???????just because of her visuals?Never gonna stan this fricking group
Jiwoo, Yunah, Jeemin, Chanelle, Minju, Jeongeun... as a fan, I am upset... but at the end of the day, we are only fans. Judges have the final say... 😢😢😢
Guys, you know, when the agency want "someone" to debut, they always put that trainee in the low rank before the final episode. Thats a trick (remember produce by mnet)! Hybe "smoothly" make wonhee always survive in every episode, also give her more attantion in camera. I dont know why, and i dont know who was in the "wonhee's back", but this is VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS! When they announce top4, i already have a feelings that something bad will happened to jeemin and jiwoo. Poor my girls😭😭😭 I was cry when chanelle got eliminated. But i cry more when I saw the line up debut this morning. 💔💔💔 and i do agree with you, if jiwoo, jeemin, yeongso, minju, yunah debut, i think the group were going to be the most anticipated group! But this line up--hmm.....😑 I hope jiwoo and jeemin will debut soon. 😔💕 (I dont hate wonhee, i just hate HYBE, the judges, and the survival show things. Thanks)
This is super late but my ideal line up for Ill-it would’ve been Yunah , Jeongeun , jiwoo , minju , Youngseo and jihyun but with the top 10 I would of put iroha to sub in for Iroha
Long rant incoming. Two of my top picks made it into the lineup (Yunah and Youngseo) yet, despite that, I feel so bitter. I was already so upset when Chanelle got eliminated, but getting Jiwoo out too?? Are we being fr right now?? Also, Jeongun and Jeemin were voted in the Top 6 and they did well in all of the evaluations yet they didn’t make it in?? I know that all survival shows are rigged to some extent but to think that were so obvious with it… and to think that all my votes practically meant nothing since HYBE already had 4 picks in mind and KR voters practically got all the power in votes for the finale, I just can’t help but wonder what was the point of watching any of this. For a show that was supposed to be “global”, they didn’t really care about Intl fans votes at all. I also can’t help but worry for this lineup because they will get so much hate for this. Especially Wonhee. I don’t have to explain why her getting first throughout this whole show is controversial to say the least. Hell, in the interim ranking, she was 9th place . But because HYBE went through such lengths just to get her in, she’s gonna deal with the consequences of HYBE’s rigging. All of of this is to say, is that this is a lose-lose situation for everyone. If the label already had a lineup in mind, then why get other trainees to compete against them? We’ve seen multiple times of the show where some of the girls open up about how much they were struggling a lot. They literally went through so much distress for nothing. HYBE wasted our time and the trainees time. And now, the girls who did make it are going to get hate for something they had no say in.
I think i kinda get it cs that live vote right?? So it depens from the fans who can go there especially K-fans.From the start when they announce that wonhee for the first place i feel like i think my bias wont make it,and thats true which is sad sc she ( Jiwoo ) have high score in global voting rather than k-voting but im glad at least my bias ( moka ) make it kinda surprising though...But the thing that i still can't understand is WHYY JEEMIN didnt make it in debut line up?? WHYY???!! she get the 1st place in the beginning today right???!! Whyy???
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I really don't understand what concept they are going for because...this lineup doesn't seem cohesive. It seems like they just chose based on who SK and Japan liked. The fact they called this a global gg, yet 1. didn't allow intl fans to participate in the live vote which accounted for 70% of the finale vote 2. didn't choose the most popular trainee amongst international fans, is a joke. Let's be honest, they purposely left us out because they want us to focus on Dream Academy.
I hope HYBE or someone else gathers Jiwoo, Jeemin, Chanelle, Jeongeun, Jihyun and debuts them as a group. Maybe even add Funa, and Ruka. THAT would be a cohesive group and would fit the Rubymoon red vampire concept we all thought we'd get. That being said, congratulations to the girls that made it. They worked hard for this. I won't say I will stan the group, it'll just depend on the music and how I'm feeling once time has passed. This should have been a documentary tbh.
Why are we even surprised lmao, these people are always like "international groups" but then have 1-2 members that aren't korean (either chinese or japanese)
I had the same thing about concept. I feel like wonhee and youngseo are completely opposite. I am not going to watch dream academy. It will be same as this one and I will be heart broken. apparently not every company can produce a survival show
is that a new survival show??
@@suej8228
Probably Yuehua gonna pick one of these eliminated trainee
I heard from a weverse post their conpect is girl crush
Minju, Youngseo and Yunah are currently the reason why protest trucks are not at Hybe’s door right now.
plus moka for me
No we better send those trucks demanding to add 2 more members in the lineup, or to debute the ones who were robbed!
There arent protest trucks is bcs wonhee debuted and korean loves wonhee and hates jiwoo
@@K-edits05that’s funny because internationally it’s the other way around lol. To each their own I guess.
Protest Trucks never worked in past. And I don't think it will work in future either. If you want, do a protest with people. But I think it won't work either. HYBE is too powerful they might hire a tear gas truck lol.
yeongseo is the best thing in this debut line. Chanelle and Jiwoo got robbed, judges are 🤡
judges played with moa and ruka too. they should all debut in a group, imagine the power
Frrrrr
especially that Lee hyun was disaster and creepy one
for me ruka 2, she improve like no other
Yeongseo was a trainee with newjeans for a couple of years, she was always gonna debut but I feel like this group’s concept isn’t gonna suit her, same goes to minju
Not having bad boy girlies debut should be a crime
IK I WAS ROOTING FOR THEM 😭
@@Alphazforever Same, they are so talented its so sad that the knetz are biased and just like visual..
Punishable by 1 mil shady tweets
Jiwoo not being in this lineup made me as sad as Jay not being in Zerobaseone ...
YESSS SAME JIWOO AND CHANELLE ARE MY JAY 😭😭
its always the contestants im certain would debut but didnt
Literally we can NOT trust the Korean voters to make the correct decision everrrrrrrr
We all knew it was going to be rigged in the first place but CHANNELE AND JIWOO? they lost a lot from that
Listen please Im still salty about Jay, I cant stand it 🙄
jiwoo was not only the most popular trainee internationally but also the one that was most ready to debut. the best vocals, one of the best dancers, consistent and brilliant stage presence, MATURITY. it's rigged, gross and unfair.
Totally rigged only 2 members are 19 so you can see what they were going for. Jeemin > Iroha but they were going for 2 Japanese members so basically because of your nationality you don’t get a chance after all the hard work it’s pure luck
Hilarious how all these international viewers think it's unfair that a Korean entertainment company prioritizes the preferences of the Korean market. Sure, voting has finally opened to internationals (this wasn't allowed until very recently) but that doesn't mean it's some sort of organized democracy. Hybe decided global votes get 30% weight and that's that. It's not "rigging." Stop feeling so damn privileged, it's embarrassing.
Considering how popular she is, I think her and maybe Chanelle might get another chance! Lets stay optimistic. She is really talented.
She was not one of the best dancers, she was like 7th or 8th?
@@Sanas_Shy_Language 6th out of 22 lol
I bawled my eyes today that my head still hurts. Jeemin was my number one pick and her not making it hurt me like none of the survival shows yet. They literally made us vote for six girls for the whole week just to take it all from us and make judges decide of the line up. They just wasted our and girls times and could just debut them without this whole mess of a “survival show”. And let me not talk about how Jiwoo and Chanelle were robbed and how a lot of girls were taken just for clout (khm Ruka khm). Good luck to hybe with this girl group cause i see a lot of people that are not satisfied with the line up
Also Moa was my second pick but they also eliminated her as soon as they could, I honestly should’ve known that everything will go downhill but I still had some hope damn it
me w keita on boys planet, voted for him every single day and he was in top 9 but didnt make it💔💔💔
@@J_jae keita was also one of my main picks but I kinda knew he won’t make it cause knetz didn’t really show that big interest in him but it still hurt BADLY. They all deserve so much better, at least Keita is debuting again soon so we can support him like he deserves
@@milicamd yeaa im so happy hes redebuting, still feels so unreal and with other bp contestants too omg
when jeemin cried my heart shattered
Ever since Chanelle got eliminated i just kinda expected this bad lineup thingy 😔
the thing for me is the vibe of the group. i feel like yunah and moka can adapt to any concept. youngseo, iroha, and minju are gonna stick to the badass concept. and wonhee i feel like will only do well in 1-2 types of concepts. i feel like this group is gonna have a weird energy and not be able to pull of different concepts and music because of how different they all are.
I also feel like the girls don't match 😭 I feel bad for saying this but I wish Himena was the last member instead of Yunah because I just don't think she fits with the other girls. I feel like Jiwoo, Jeemin, Yunah & Chanelle would fit together perfectly in a different 4 member group
I thought kepler werent really cohesive as well due to the same reason but i think i'll it is a bit worse😭. The girls(in both groups) are really good but ye, there's a reason why the rigging of izone and fromis 9 was actually a blessing in disguise.
It’s kep1er all over again
@@myalovesdaniOMG SAME. I LOVE YUNAH SO MUCH THAT AT THIS POINT I WNATED HER NOT TO DEBUT. BC SHE JUST DOESNT FIT WITH THE OTHERS. Yunah, jiwoo, jeemin and Chanelle fit so much together
@@dheujajaa183This line up is has more chemistry in terms of concept. All of them dont look awkward in cute/innocent concepts except Youngseo but it's not really in bad level. And all of them can do badass concept except Wonhee. While in Kep1er members are separated in 3 groups in terms of concept.
The final episode was such a slap in the face that I’m glad I missed the live broadcast😀 I’m happy that Youngseo, Minju and Yunah are debuting because they were part of my ideal lineup, but Jiwoo (who has been sabotaged this whole competition) not debuting is so devastating to me!! I would’ve scanned if she was there since she was my one pick with Yunah, but I don’t think I will. If their music is good I’ll stream but I’ve lost all interest in this group. It would be great if Jiwoo, Jeongeun and Chanelle debut under another group under Hybe because that vocal trio would dominate the industry 😤✊
I was waiting an hour to watch from beginning to end 😭😭😭😭
ruka, chanelle, moa, jiwoo, jihyun, jeongeun, funa and jeemin should all debut in RUBYMOON, just imagine the power
frrr
Ruka and chanelle😭 i hope hybe creates a new girl group
+ Jihyun and Jeongeun
Then that group would be monster rookie in 5th gen❤
+ Jihyun, Jeemin and Funa!
they lost lots of talented people. not saying that the line up aren’t talented but some of them deserved the spot way more. glad yunah secured her spot. no hate to wonhee but her visuals paved her way to debut..
Bro, Jiwoo’s visual is better than Wonhee
Some of them clearly need more training
@@hallooos7585korean like more cute vibe, and she is minor and Koreans are obsessed with youth and cuteness
@@lavenderirisiDid you watch the show? She and Youngseo were the fans pick.
Jiwoo not debuting is actually CRIMINAL???!!! She’s literally the best trainee
Best vocal for sure, best trainee that's a stretch. She definitely lacked in certain areas and that affected her more than expected, I thought she'd still make the group regardless so they'd have a main vocal.
she lacks in ceratain areas yeah, but comparing it to the final line-up talents? shes waaaaay too far@@orcapuff
the rigging/manipulation from the past two episodes was just ridiculous. from chanelle being majorily underscored & himena overscored to completely taking out jeemin & jeongeun out of the lineup. im happy for the girls who debuted but i cant help but feel saddened. we don't know what kind of concept we're getting, but if it's teen crush then half of the group's potentional is being screwed over. i most likely will follow yunah & youngseo but rn i have no interest in the lineup.
+ if it wasnt obvious already, this show is proof that the industry is ageist.
Then Youngseo left 💀
It’s clear they already had a lineup. I’d rather had the top5 or top6 debut but I wish them all the succes in the world, bc I’m scared for them.
Yeah… 2 all rounders, 2 KBS visuals , 2 Japanese members it’s literally a math formula so why even vote
It’s clear they didn’t though. The pre show top 6 proves that they didn’t.
the show was ridiculously uneccesary
Sadly, but it was obvious from the beginning of the show that Jiwoo wouldn't debut, from the moment of her low level. Judges ignored her the whole show, she received 1 compliment in vocal competition and it was so blant like oh you sang good. Thats all, while Wonhee, Moka, Iroha got long compliments and appreciation. They didn't even said anything to her when they were performing Monster, like wtf? So i watched the finals knowing that our precious Jiwoo wouldn't debut(
Yes she's been done dirty from the start i swear they irk my nerves 🙄
Lost all respect from the judges bunch of clowns
The best lineup‼️🛐
☆Jiwoo☆ ☆Jeongeun☆ ☆Yunah☆ ☆Chanelle☆ ☆Minju☆ ☆Jeemin☆ ☆Youngseo☆
now that is an avengers-level threat!!! But NO the dookies from belift and hybe says otherwise smh
HELL YEAH
Yess
This would've been the best lineup i was rlly hoping they would debut together😭
yes
They had a perfect line-up in front of them: Yunah, Youngseo, Jeemin, Jiwoo, Minju, and Moka or Jongeun, loved by the public
But no they did by their preferences, favorites, and will sink the group
I don't even see what concept they could do?? Cute? It doesn't suit, Youngseo, Yunah, Minju. Girl crush, a bit dark, it doesn't suit Wonhee and Moka. At the limit Iroha can fit any concept. If they have a cute concept because of the two minors, it will ruin the talents of the adults in the group.
Moka can pull any concept have no worries about her
Moka has already done concepts like this and it went perfectly. Also, just because there are minors doesn't mean they can't do mature concepts, when Iroha and Wonhee did concepts like this on the show.
@@pudindete9275Yeah but that also puts them at total risk of being sexualized by grown adults because, like you said, they're MINORS.
The line up is Weird but the Concept is worse.
I feel so bad for Jiwoo. She was the oldest contestant, and known by the others as the best vocalist. And she watched one of the youngest contestant and the contestant with the least amount of training take first place. Don't get me wrong. I do think Wonhee is talented, and she did well in many performances, but I think she still needs more training (such as with her expressions.) She improved so much in such a short amount of time, and she will definitely improve even further with more training. However, I don't think that it was fair that she placed first when there are other talented contestants who had trained longer. And given Wonhee's young age, she would still have future opportunities to debut, and a lot of public support for it too, given the exposure and support she got from participating in the show. There was clear favouritism for her by Hybe (and knetz.)
(There are also allegations that Wonhee was lip syncing in some of her performances. I'm not an expert on that, but if it is true, then it is difficult to know how she actually sings in live performances. But I guess the kpop industry is geared towards pre-recorded performances atm anyway, and stans will support and eat up anything...)
Because the kpop industry favours younger artists, it is going to be hard for "older" contestants like Chanelle, Jiwoo and Funa to debut, which is why I was really rooting for them, and that is the main reason for my disappointment.
I think Jiwoo was probably happy for Wonhee considering Jiwoo pretty much adopted Wonhee throughout the show. Hell, they even had matching pyjamas.
@@Sanas_Shy_Language no matter how much you like a person, if you KNOW you deserve something but that person didn't work as hard as you or isn't as qualified yet still snatched it away, you'd be angry and disappointed too.
def. you take care most of the minor trainees in the end they were the one whose choosen @@kpopnimation
Ok, so: Jiwoo, Jeemin, Yeongeun, Chanelle and Himena would DESTROY everything. Next Queens for sure, if they let debut them in ONE GROUP. No more to say
One thing I would like to point out: I-Land 2 is not a collaboration with Hybe anymore, the final group will be produced by Teddy and managed by WakeOne. Hybe recently acquired all the shares from CJ ENM, so while I-Land 2 is marketed as the show that created Enhypen (because it's true), it seems as though the two companies have broken it off (aka Enhypen is a child of divorce who will have two half sisters)
Lmfaooo the 2 half sisters line is hilarious and accurate
Half sisters?😅
Best comment seen today!
But now I-land 2 is introduced by ZB1 not enhypen anymore, as you said enhypen is bought entirely by hybe
The last line in brackets sums it all up better than anything ever could
Thank God, this group should stay as far away from hybe as possible
This group doesnt give "enhyphen's little sisters" to me. Like Im srry some of these girls r mediocre. Chanelle and Jiwoo im so sorry.
Facts
It’s giving experimental and the contestants were guniea pigs
Jeongeun as sunoo sister : 🤨
Chanelle and Jiwoo are mediocre too.
@@Seowonie12if they are considered mediocre then the group is fucked in the first place since the other trainees can be considered talentless
What does their group name mean though? It doesn’t even flow nicely when you say it? Like, at least enhypen flow easily on the tongue? 😅
It means “I’ll be it” if I got it correctly. It’s definitely weird though, they really should’ve named them rubymoon like we thought it’d be, it’s much prettier. Though they made it clear in every way that they don’t care what fans want 🤡
Hi I agree Even Queendom Puzzle Project Girl Group EL7Z UP that people don’t like their group name, it’s easier to remember to a certain extent (at least for me personally) then I’LL-IT. Either way both group names are strange choices and I think it might be hard to pronounce and remember for many people.
@@milicamdHi oh I see. I’LL-It has a nice meaning for the group name, I like it when groups have that. But I think the name would make it hard for people to remember and pronounce. Ruby Moon is such a good group name and easier to remember. Such a missed opportunity.
I'll-It is pronounced exactly like eyelid with a t instead of a d
i'm pretty sure it means i'll-it and u fill in the '-' with something like be, win, get etc it shows their determination and they can do anything
It's not too late to join the boycott...just saying
Yeah, but lets try not to affect the gg (which will be pretty hard) because even though not all of our picks debuted, we have to make clear that the problem is in JTBC AND HYBE. Anyways, 4/6 of my picks debuted so i'll do what i can to support them
Idk yunah finally debuted so I have mixed feelings right now 😭😭
Agree
@vidv1924 It has to affect the groups sales/views/etc. otherwise the company will do nothing different. They don't care if we criticize them online. The only language they speak is money.
@@teatimewiththeia realistically though a boycott now won't affect them. r u next was not popular at all and very few people (especially in korea) actually watched it. once the groups debuts they'll gain the attention of all those that didn't watch the show and weren't invested in the other trainees which will still mean they'll be successful. they're a hybe group at the end of the day.
also this is probably the reason that they kind of just did whatever they wanted with the lineup - their new fans at debut won't care about the individual members but more about the group as a whole.
It just looks like hybe wants their own ive
logic. on how they chose eleven as mission song
In what way? Definitely not visuals since its pretty farfetched since ive has wonyoung, yujin and leeseo
the problem with the lineup is not that the current lineup doesn't deserve it, but there were other trainees who were OBJECTIVELY BETTER than them who deserved it more. everyone and their grandmas could tell jiwoo, jeemin, chanelle and jeongeun could easilu outdo half the current lineup but...yeah
The Jeongeun sneak 😭
Mind you Jeemin can't sing, Chanelle threw a fit over not having lines she wanted, she would have gotten into a scandal 1 week into debut, only Jiwoo deserved to debut out of the ones you listed 😭 and the funny thing is she should have taken dozen Youngseos spot. Even Jeemin was a better singer than that dozen and had better dynamics with the group
@@占-m8i did we watch the same show? like did you see chanelles eyes miss girl was TIRED and OVERWORKED and may i remind you wasnt it wonhee that didnt wanna do the lines because she thought she was wouldnt doo well which caused chanelle to takes those lines and along with her own lines when no one else would no wonder her voice cracked she wasnt given a break before her highnote so pls get it right 😑
Gonna kms Infront of hype to change the trajectory of their lives so that they'll bring back and let Chanelle, Jiwoo, Jeemin debut together in a group
LMAOOOO
Can't you just nuke em? you have the resources babe💅🏼
Debut In Fifty Fifty 2.0
+ Jeongeun 💗👑
No Kanye would be sad 😂😂😂....never laughed so much in a while, this made my day..tysm
For some reason the name Ill-it makes me think of illicit, illegitimate…
Because it is, the name is a joke, lineup is a joke, and the judges are a joke
i've heard people say it's supposed to sounds like "elite." "Elite" would have been a much better name in my opinion
Because thats what it truly stands for 😅😅😅
HAHAHAHAHA
Apparently the grp is supposed to be named ill (show) it
70% of the people who support wonhee are korean😂 . its all about the visual. I hope her korean stan buy there album
Visual where? She cute af but nowhere near irene and wonyoung if were talking visuals
okay hear me out I am just sad that some of my girls are debuting in this group what a joke
Same... I was just praying at the end for yunah tonot debut here
Yeah I have a bad feeling about this group, feel like minju and Yeongseo isn’t gonna fit what belift has in plan, that’s why a part of me feels kinda relieved for jeemin - you already know another management is gonna snatch her up
Actually the 4 ppl that were left are actually better than the lineup bffr
im not hating or anything but honestly the 4 ppl at the back would fit a different concept tho
Zzzzzzzzz
I always thought that Wonhee would be at number 7, because she isn't doing that good with different concepts as other trainees, so I was surprised that she won first place. The concept for them is going to be very weird for the first 2years ig
First 2 announced were top fan votes, not a true #1. Youngseo I think was actual #1 by combined score.
If Jiwoo not being chosen for the debut lineup is becuase of that fact that she's is too old to debut, then I am honestly disgusted. Y'all gonna let go of mature talented trainees like her and have kids who can just kinda sing and dance be in the debut lineup? Great Job Belift!!
Jeemin, Chanelle and Jiwoo HYBE biggest lost tf now i want them to debut together in another group
I can't imagine how these girls felt training for years only to have someone training at only 1 month debut before them. Hard work pays off; rooting for these girls in the future!
LONG RANT INCOMING!!
My top 6 before the finale was Moka, Yunah, Jiwoo, Youngseo, Jeongeun and Jeemin. Very happy for Moka and Yunah making it!! They are really my girls and they deserve it so much.
If im being real, aside from Jiwoo i didnt really have attachment to anyone else in my top 6. I picked them because they all werent minors aside from Youngseo whos turning 18. I mean, i liked Minju too but she was never really one of my faves.
Aside from them, i really loved Chanelle and Ena in the show!! Chanelle was so unfairly eliminated, i cant believe she didnt even make it to the finals like.
With Ena, im a few years older than her so shes like little sister to me lol. BUT I DID NOTT VOTE FOR HER AT ALL!!She had great vocals and improved the most out of all the members, but unfortunately she was TWELVE. Thats an absolute insane age! If she was like 17-ish i wouldve voted for her. I think the only thing that was hindering her was her age. I cant wait for her to debut in 2029 with Himena!
I was very disappointed with Jiwoo not making it. I mean, I dont hate Wonhee or Iroha at app but its just :/ to me. I dont even know what the concept of this group will be. Id love to see Jiwoo and Chanelle added to TripleS though! Jaden Jeong THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY SIGN MY GIRLS!!!
Also, the group name is awful. WE WANTED RUBYMOON
Anyways, this rant all over the place. Im probably gonna solo stan Moka and Yunah. But if the groups music is really good i might fr stan since i dont hate the rest of the lineup. I wish them success though!!!
My original picks were Chanelle, Yewon, Jiwoo, Jeemin, Himena and Moa, well we know how many of them get in the final line up don't we? 🙃
Ena has potential to be one of the best vocalists in kpop tbh. she was the best vocalist at only 12 after chanelle, jiwoo & maybe minju
@@kimkardashi-un2.051I FEEL SO BAD OMG
Agree with everything here, your top 6 were exactly my top 6, and the group name... PR disaster.
The problem with Wonhee is not that she is a minor, is the fact that she has too much screen time with no reason, and the judges didn't gave her a bad score for any mistake that she made. So the problem was not her, but all the hate that the misbehavior of the judges created was redirected to her. So yeah, you are right, hate the game, in this case the show, but she represents all the mistakes of the show, sadly.
The screen time wasn't for no reason. She's undeniably cute, and she's pretty funny off stage. Not saying it's the best reason but it's something.
@@orcapuffyeah I already knew she would be number one
@@orcapuff Be real pls she is not funny.
yes thank you for letting me know that her screen is only for cute girls not the ACTUAL talents@@orcapuff
The lineup is so weird 😭I originally liked Youngseo, Jiwoo, Chanelle, Yunah, Minju and Jeemin. But when Chanelle was literally robbed I thought Moka would fit. But I srsly didn’t think Jiwoo and Jeemin wouldn’t debut! 😭 As for Wonhee, I knew she’d prob debut cause of how BIASED the judges were, but rank 1 srsly? She isn’t as good as ANY of the other girls! And the name ill-itt is just super WEIRD
This lineup is a cluster fuck.. like wonhee? Really!? Iroha and Minju have YG vibes to them so I dunno how they’re gonna make it work. Like you said everything about them is weird, even the name I’ll-IT - gimme a break 🤧
Iroha and Wonhee are already the youngest, they weren't even in a hurry. Extra few year training would be better for them. And I wonder what Moka add to the group that Jeemin, Jiwoo, Jeongeun can't. They turned the group into cotton candy when they could have been a very pretentious group.
The problem with forming groups through a survival show is that people vote based on their favorites and not cohesion. Wonhee got first because korea LOVES Wonhee. I also have a theory which is that hybe wants the group to be teen crush - something like the next itzy but more youthful.
And I wouldn't be surprised if they're saving Chanelle, Jeongeun, Jimin and Jiwoo for a more mature/dark concept. IMO, that's where they looked their best because they got a sense of class and elegance to them.
@@lavenderirisiwrong, did you even watch the show?
@@lavenderirisino wonhee and youngseo were chosen by knetz
@@lavenderirisiWonhee and Youngseo were fan favorites. They weren't picked by the judges.
Hybe is desperately trying to make their own version of IVE.
Wonhee being 1st is an actual joke. Compare her to LITTERALLY ANY ONE ELSE. She doesn’t deserve it. I don’t care.
I don't think the show made it clear that it'll be judges pick. If I knew it'll be 70% korean votes and 4 picks based on company's pick, I wouldn't have wasted my time voting on the show. I think that's the most annoying part of the show. If they made it clear like &audition did, maybe people won't be so angry.
They should have just stuck with the fan votes!!!! Iroha, Yuna, Youngseo,Minju, Jiwoo and Jeemin make more sense and are more holistic
And the Desperate performance can prove it (with Yunah missing, but imagine)
Wonhee would have still debuted. She and Youngseo were the fans pick.
@@Seowonie12 I realised that the finale day voting moved her from 7th or 9th to 1st
I think the group name is supposed to be pronounced "I Lit" considering their logo is a flame
and honestly as much as I think Wonhee should not get hate over this she was ABSOLUTLY NOT deserving of that place she should've trained more before debuting but ofc the judges (esp Lee Hyun) have rotten brains.
Please dont let that creepy uncle near any judging table for 10 years or so and dont get me started with the other judges like i literally roll my eyes everytime they give criticisms cause many of those doesnt make sense smh
Jiwoo not debuting is my villian origin story honestly. I saw this coming as soon as the first episode happened 🤷🏾♀️ i dont think i wanns watch dream academy for this reason.
It seems like Hybe is not really going to focus on the girls. Dream Academy got a budget and R U Next just got crumbs 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️😳
No one deserves Jiwoo’s tears
Hey at least we have HYBE'S international girl group debuting to look forward to.
Am not feeling like supporting Academy dream, after what they did to RUNext
Definitely not watching
I looked up to their profiles and they barely have vocalists there, they are full of dancers.
Nope, I think I have to pass this international wtv thing..
Have you seen the contestants tho? Its very sus...
I gave up all hope when I heard how the members were going to be picked. I knew then that jiwoo wasn’t going to make it :(
To be honest, when they mentioned the fifth place I thought: Uhm maybe leave all the best ones to debut in another group. FR
And then they called Yunah and I was like, hmm…..
@@alsoleve99 why? she's one of the prettiest. she knows what she's doing.
@@partdeux992 because she deserved a better group not this one..
@@kamalhossan5694youngseo minju and yunah deserve a way better group . It’s so insane . Now they have to baby sit …
@@fatimasummaray784 right 🙂
also if the lineup was based off votes like EVERY OTHER SURVIVAL SHOW it would be
1. jeemin
2. jiwoo
3. yeongseo
4. minju
5. yunah
6. iroha (it was supposed to be chanelle but she got eliminated before the finale)
imagine THIS lineup
little rant but the amount of hate wonhee has gotten is insane. she was never in my picks, my final lineup, nor did i vote for her but good god the hate she's been getting is so fucking undeserved & just downright nasty. there was no protecting wonhee, everyone just threw her to the wolves.
Fr
ofc i'll protect her. mark my words, i'm gonna be the king of the wonnies
@@mirfanfirmansyah9094 Cringe.
i dare to challenge myself lol it's been a while i'm not really dive deep into this fandom thing
i am just gonna say "someone pls save yunah, minju and youngseo"
Irritated me so badly how the deer in headlights got no.1 instead of literally anyone else. Why are oir votes only 30%?? The judges aren't the ones stanning them???
The worst line up ever
No cuz I’m so actually sad Youngseo made it 😭
Idgaf about this show like I didn’t watch a second of it but through reels and clips I started to like Youngseo, Jiwoo, and Chanelle A LOT. I’m happy Youngseo gets to live her dream now, but in THIS group?? The poor thing will have to carry them on her back for the rest of their career- (No hate to the other girls I think Minju is actually quite talented tbh and I mean Iroha was gonna be one of my favorites until I found out her age ;-;)
I would’ve actually been fine if she didn’t debut because then she would have a new chance to find another opportunity that will give her a group she deserves; but unfortunately she’s stuck here 😢
I know right youngseo , yunah , minju deserved a better group...
That's the same way I felt for Yunah
You're all embarrassing and should be ashamed of yourselves. Moka and Iroha are very talented as well, and Wonhee will catch up in due time. No one is carrying anyone on their back, and no one is "stuck." You're just delusional because the group wasn't 100% your choosing.
You should realise that if she didn't debut here, she might not be able to achieve her dream of becoming a Kpop idol ever. It's not like you get an opportunity like this every year. Even very talented girls dont get chances to debut. Her being in the line up is better than not debuting at all. Most of the trainees in RU next who didn't make it will not be able to debut. People will forget their names eventually. Now is just recent and people are still bandwagoning. Give it a few months then most of these so called fans will not really care about them anymore.
Well damn you got what you wanted bcos she’s out of the group now so I’LL-IT will debut without her next month
I just think it’s sad that younger contestants were chosen to debut over older, more trained trainees all in the name of ‘potential’. Hybe and belift mentioned this too in i-land but they value potential a lot and i think that it’s nice to believe in someone and invest in them but that just leaves the older and better trained contestants in the dust. Plus, kpop is a business and as we all know, the younger you are, the more profitable. Older trainees will have a harder time debuting in the future and being successful since sk likes youth and visuals a lot based on my observation and how the trends seem to go…. Wishing success on the group tho and i hope the contestants who didn’t make it will debut soon as well!!
Imagine dumping the whole vocal line lol. Chanel, Jiwoo and Jongeon was introduced as the vocal line!? And Jeemin is literally the perfect visual center and has been voted top3 since the start but the show has been shitting on her since the start. Wtf!!!
Jiwoo and Chanelle didn't debut, I literally don't know anything, I don't know anything 😡
World doesn't revolve around you babe wake up😂😂
Just bcoz you don't like them doesn't mean that they can't debut lol 😂
Nugudom is waiving 😂😂😂
jiwoo, jeemin, yunah, youngseo, minji, and jeongeun should’ve been the lineup fr 💔
Now thats an avengers level threat!!! 😂😂😂
tbh i just feel like after not even a whole month of training wonhee just doesn't feel polished enough, like yeah she improved and she's getting better but with that also did people in the show that were ready to debut to begin with, idk i feel like if she trained more she'd be ready to debut, not saying she won't be better once they do debut it's just for example people like jiwoo have rarely any chance to debut (people in korean think 21 is apparently too old) and people like wonhee have the chance to debut even 2 years from now on, it's a shame hybe let go of people like jiwoo, jihyun, chanelle etc.
with that said good luck to i'll it, i'm not a multi stan so i won't stan the group i didn't even think of doing that and i just watched the show cos i was bored but yeah hopefully they won't have a hard time when they debut
They used Himena as an excuse to eliminate Chanelle. Jiwoo not being in the line up was what triggers me the most. Mother was mothering, low-key carrying the entire show and performance. She is the whole package with angelic vocals, great dancing, great facial expressions and visual ( knetz have THE AUDACITY to call her UGLY. She was the visual of show ). She is as well the best leader. Wonhee being 1st is like the show clearly saying that they favors her. Ive seen a lot of rigged show, but that is the most obvious rigged things ive ever seen and tbh they dont even hide it. Wonhee debuting is not bad, but considering the choice of trainee they show us and the most obvious rigging ever, im so salty about it. I also don't understand why they like Japan sm. Personal opinion i hate Japan mens they're f creepy 💀. Ive never taken a like to young japanese trainees not bc of the trainees themselves but like the creepy fans they'll get 💀
im not really happy with this line up, but i wish all the best for the girls...tbh im sad that those episodes were edited so we couldnt really hear them sing. Wonhee should not be number one (im not hating on her or anything) i just think she needs to train more and get over her fear of cameras atc. she's young and she could've debuted better prepared and (mby as adult) in another group, im happy she made it tho and i hope she wont be targeted with hate anymore.
It's really hypocritical that they chose this lineup because the planned group's concept is citypop, cute etc. The whole program is a show. 🤡That's why they prob didn't consider jiwoo as she would suit other concepts more.
Then why they picked Yunah then? People also think that Yunah fits more into the girl crush concept and she doesn’t fit the cute and childish concept. So what’s the excuse😭
hoping jiwoo jeemin jeongeun channelle to debut in a group
I like the group but wonhee coming 1st I felt that something was wrong (I don't hate wonhee tho but I think she can be a great vocalist in the future) i know ever since its started that they favor wonhee but not debuting jeemin, jiwoo, jeongeun, chanelle, moa and funa they we're already ready to debut but i think SK wanted just visuals not talent is just bugging me off. The group name I-LL' IT is seriously ridiculous like who even thought abt the group name . But now that the "survival show" is over we can't do anything abt it anymore it hurts seeing the trainees that have been training for long enough don't debut and they debuted a trainee whos training period is only a month i get that she only trained for a month and she can improved a lot but seriously hybe what we're you thinking huh what are you thinking there was no good vocalists in the group they need jiwoo or chanelle (it still hurts seeing that my fav duo MOCHA and RIVALZ didn't debuted together) but I will support I-LL' IT since chanelle's mom want us to support just like how chanelle support the girls.
I stopped watching after Chanelle got eliminated
I-LAND - Audience shouldn't pick the lineup, the producers should!
RUNEXT - The producers shouldn't pick the lineup, the audience should!
Yawn.... zzzzz
i feel so bad for jiwoo she is good at everything i want her in a kpop group really bad
Jiwoo not debuting is a joke, nobody was more talented overall. I’m happy for the girls that did make it but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t significantly less interested in the group now.
it's a loss for HYBE to let go of their talented trainees because The group DESPERATELY needs the leader & vocal backbone which is Jiwoo. Next, the charisma and aura of Jeemin. I mean she was practically the ace of the show since day 1 as she could pull of any genre given to her. Also jeongeun?? she's literally a center material and she could even be more big if she'll pursue acting. Lastly, my girl Himena who ATE the tie a cherry and nobody stage just by her facial expression. She's the golden maknae period. I wish they could pull off a survival card just like what JYP did with momo and what YG did with baby monster. They're practically invincible with 10 members. Please HYBE reconsider it! Fans of R U Next, please let them know your opinion on the final line up!
Jeongeun is not neglected by hybe but by runext fans. I hate the fact that Jeongeun is excluded by fan votes in last episodes to get Iroha out by adding Moka when everyone knows Jeongeun did the best in every episodes. I could only think of Jeongeun was not in the lineup becuz she could not pull out enough attention that hybe wants.
@@nyeinthitsar6305true that!!! and the show also did her no favors with barely any screentime in the early eps and only gave her decent exposure in the end where there are a few contestants left...that just proves that the typical hybe stans are just pedophile mofos who cant recognize real talent when they see one #facts
Isn’t Wonhee 16 that’s a normal debut age for minors
16 shouldn't even be considered a minor. 16 isn't young
@@illegaluser69 It is! you are crazy?
Jesus and God loves you so much so look and build a relationship with him. Repent of your sins and trespasses and forgive those who have trespass against you 💌💌💌❤❣❣❣
Yes Hybe should repent after what they did to Jiwoo 😭😭😭
JEONGEUN CHANELLE JIHYUN JEEMIN JIWOO FUNA PLEASE DEBUT TOGETHER
Jiwoo, Joongeun, yunah, youngseo, minju, iroha are my ideal line up
Replace iroha with jeemin and its a newjeans tier girl group
@@daxxgaming2567 ur ideal line up is my ideal line up too
This is a long comment so have fun lol:
I was watching the livestream and the second Jiwoo wasn’t selected for the final lineup I just shut it off and couldn’t even bring myself to want to support Ill-It.
Jiwoo had been my #1 pick from day one, and she has the most vocal skills, a great dancer, a wonderful leader. All those girls looked up to her and international fans loved her. I do not get why she wasn’t picked.
I don’t mind the final lineup, minus Wonhee (if it was wonhee switched with Jiwoo I would’ve been fine). But idk what concept they are going with bc Yunah, Youngseo and Minju’s vibes are different from the others.
I think Hybe shot themselves in the foot with a solid fanbase do to the fact that they gave themselves the power to choose the last 4 members, and made it near impossible for global fans to cote for the 70% final part 2. If they just had the normal voting for everyone to participate and let at least 4/6 (if not 6/6) members be picked by votes, I am sure most people wouldn’t be so angry, believing it was the voters who made the decisions. But seeing as Hybe picked the majority of the members, with some decisions that most fans disagree, they brought the anger and loss of fans unto themselves. It was a dumb decision. I would have like it like Iland, where 5/6 members are chosen on voted and the last one is a judges pick.
Now, just bc I’m a bit disappointed does not mean I will hate on the group. I am looking forward to Jiwoo’s debut soon, hopefully, but I will listen to the debut of Ill-It and see if I like the music.
Please don’t hate on the group everyone. If you don’t like, either simply ignore them or comment in a respectful manner why. Don’t hate.
I have a bad feeing about this group, part of me feels relieved for jeemin but concerned for minju and Yeongseo
@@AusOpening they are getting a lot of hate so I hope it doesn’t effect their careers in the long run, even after Ill-It
Honestly, Jiwoo deserves better
Jiwoo was robbed just because they wanted to create hybe's wonyoung
No hate to wony
Wonhee was a fan favorite. She wasn't picked by the judges. Even if Wonhee didn't debut, Jiwoo wouldn't be picked.
@@Seowonie12 lol lies she was also companies fav because the judges gave remark for absolutely nothing but her visuals remember in my bag performance she didn't even matched the concept
@@Seowonie12 in addition there were barely any views and hype of the show so there is ain't no way she got million plus vote bruhhh
Bruh how can you compare them to wonyoung??? R U Blind????
jeemin trying not to cry was my last straw 😭
Same 😭
I think that the girls dont look good together like they wont fit the concept that they are going to have because all of them are so diffrent... I think that only 6 members is too little because there were so many talented trainees i tought that maybe 8-9 members could be in the final line up. Jiwoo, Jeongeun and Chanelle in the group whould have made it such a powerful group vocaly. Jihyun, Jeemin, Youngseo would have been great dancers of the group. If they really wanted to add the visual than wonhee okay but she isnt trained well.. so thats already 7 members and than Ruka and Minju.... Well idk if these girls that i would have wanted to debut would gfit the concept all well but its definetly better than this lineup cuz now this group doesnt have good vocalists. well minju youngseo yunah can sing moka too but their not as good as jiwoo or chanelle or jeongeun so yeah. also i dont like about them debuting only minors. well minju and yunah arent but still they turend adults just now so yeh. also because wonhee hasnt trained for long i dont think she could urvive being an idol because of their tight work schedule strict diets and rules and lots of practise. also lack of sleep. i think that she wouldint survive as a kpop idol because she still hasnt survived as a trainee. idk if it makes sence. yeah and for the 9 member grouo thing idk if they would fit the concept together but what im saying is that those girls are really talented and they could have included them in the final lineup. Also its super unfair that they didnt let internatinal fans to vote and the company itself picked out 4 trainees and only 2 trainees picked the public so its so unfair. sorry for my mistakes english isnt my first lenguage and feel free to tell your opinion..
I find it real hard to see wonhee as a visual...like yes shes very cute but she pales in comparison when were talking about real visuals like irene, nana(irene 2.0), wonyoung, tzuyu etc smh only jeongeun and jeemin could provide that
@@daxxgaming2567 Well your right but because the judges have fvorites tehy would definetly pic her as the visual bacause korean fans also think she could be the visual i dont know..
@@wonyettee. judges @ hybe and belift are a bunch of pedophiles...they should just surrender themselves to the police ASAP!!!
i definitely won’t forget what this show did to jiwoo, jeemin and chanelle. i hate this show 😊
Jiwoo,Chanelle,jeongun and jeemin making a group🤌🏻
I reallywant them to be a group together 😭😭
@@Di_123-g4z Same 😢😭
Chanelle and Jiwoo can go solo and they could have even more popularity than Ill-it
My pick for the group
Jiwoo
Jeemin
Yunah
Chanelle
Youngseo
Minju
😂😂😊😊
If the point of making cute bop what's the point of taking the talented matured girls who have way more talent That doesn't make sense!!
womp womp 😂
Remembering the time people were unsure when they first heard i-land group would be ENHYPEN😅 It’s nothing compared to the name I’LL IT 😂 the name 🤣 as an indonesian , makes me think of the word “irit” = cheap
mending. kalo gua mah justru kepikiran SILIT
The judges are freaking unfair what's the meaning of voting them they just elimated Chanelle why not Wonhee and how did wonhee debut???????just because of her visuals?Never gonna stan this fricking group
Jiwoo, Yunah, Jeemin, Chanelle, Minju, Jeongeun... as a fan, I am upset... but at the end of the day, we are only fans. Judges have the final say... 😢😢😢
Yeongseo also... I also love her... 😢
Guys, you know, when the agency want "someone" to debut, they always put that trainee in the low rank before the final episode. Thats a trick (remember produce by mnet)! Hybe "smoothly" make wonhee always survive in every episode, also give her more attantion in camera. I dont know why, and i dont know who was in the "wonhee's back", but this is VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS! When they announce top4, i already have a feelings that something bad will happened to jeemin and jiwoo. Poor my girls😭😭😭 I was cry when chanelle got eliminated. But i cry more when I saw the line up debut this morning. 💔💔💔 and i do agree with you, if jiwoo, jeemin, yeongso, minju, yunah debut, i think the group were going to be the most anticipated group! But this line up--hmm.....😑 I hope jiwoo and jeemin will debut soon. 😔💕 (I dont hate wonhee, i just hate HYBE, the judges, and the survival show things. Thanks)
i hope so Jeemin and Jiwoo will debut!
it's either lee hyun or her cousin lol
i sense like bang pd would like to find his personal pick after garam left
@@mirfanfirmansyah9094that Lee Hyun was literally worst judge tho...
Only AIKI was best...
if not aiki then jaehwan
This is so late but my ideal line up would be Jiwoo, Chanelle or Jeogeun, Jeemin, Jihyun, Yunah and Youngseo or Moa.
STAN MOA
This is super late but my ideal line up for Ill-it would’ve been Yunah , Jeongeun , jiwoo , minju , Youngseo and jihyun but with the top 10 I would of put iroha to sub in for Iroha
Long rant incoming. Two of my top picks made it into the lineup (Yunah and Youngseo) yet, despite that, I feel so bitter. I was already so upset when Chanelle got eliminated, but getting Jiwoo out too?? Are we being fr right now?? Also, Jeongun and Jeemin were voted in the Top 6 and they did well in all of the evaluations yet they didn’t make it in?? I know that all survival shows are rigged to some extent but to think that were so obvious with it… and to think that all my votes practically meant nothing since HYBE already had 4 picks in mind and KR voters practically got all the power in votes for the finale, I just can’t help but wonder what was the point of watching any of this. For a show that was supposed to be “global”, they didn’t really care about Intl fans votes at all.
I also can’t help but worry for this lineup because they will get so much hate for this. Especially Wonhee. I don’t have to explain why her getting first throughout this whole show is controversial to say the least. Hell, in the interim ranking, she was 9th place . But because HYBE went through such lengths just to get her in, she’s gonna deal with the consequences of HYBE’s rigging.
All of of this is to say, is that this is a lose-lose situation for everyone. If the label already had a lineup in mind, then why get other trainees to compete against them? We’ve seen multiple times of the show where some of the girls open up about how much they were struggling a lot. They literally went through so much distress for nothing. HYBE wasted our time and the trainees time. And now, the girls who did make it are going to get hate for something they had no say in.
wonhee got connections
With her family lol
it should be R U Rigged
My top 6:
1. Yunah
2.Jeongeun
3. Jiwoo
4. Chanelle
5. Jimin
6. Himena/Moka/Funa/Ruka
Fast forward to Aug 2024 and no Yeongseo, no comeback..What a bore
I think i kinda get it cs that live vote right?? So it depens from the fans who can go there especially K-fans.From the start when they announce that wonhee for the first place i feel like i think my bias wont make it,and thats true which is sad sc she ( Jiwoo ) have high score in global voting rather than k-voting but im glad at least my bias ( moka ) make it kinda surprising though...But the thing that i still can't understand is WHYY JEEMIN didnt make it in debut line up?? WHYY???!! she get the 1st place in the beginning today right???!! Whyy???