Indeed, I was thinking the same about the Peru flight. As airspeed and altimeter are calculated via the pitot tube and static port, who has we know can be blocked bij tape or insects... A little bit of trained pilot such give more believe to the GPWS as this is triggered bij the onboard radar.
After getting through 19 or so seasons of Mayday, I want to learn how to pack my own parachute and bring it as my carry on bag every time I fly anywhere lol
yeah cause the stall warnings and ground proximity warning come from systems that function separate from the air speed and altitude alarms sadly pilots trust air speed and altitude alarms over the stall and ground proximity alarms
I don't understand why some pilots fly a plane completely ignoring their co-pilots. The entire point of having more than two pilots is to help reduce human error. If one of them thinks the plane is going to crash, then you pull up and listen to them.
It is called human error the pilot always think his right until it is too late. This is why pilots should be taught not to be prideful. His pride puts innocent people lives at risk.
Understandable. What this channel is trying to educate its viewers is that aircraft are only supposed to be touching the ground along the runway with wheels 🙏
@@ultrajd In cases like this, Hierarchy shouldn't matter in the cockpit. If one of them is distressed about something, that should be top priority first. The Ego factor must perish from the cockpit. They must be both at the same page at situations like this when one pilot is distressed and pointing something out
@@trentarnold2670 I agree. There’s one accident that was partially caused by an over egotistical pilot who wouldn’t listen to his crew. It resulted in two planes from Pam-Am and KLM to slam into each other.
It’s because their displays were showing different things since they didn’t do a final compass heading. Unfortunately, First Air didn’t properly train them in CRM since it was in the form of lectures rather than simulations.
You have a Captain and First Officer for a good reason: Both need to communicate and coordinate. Any pilot who ignores his copilot or vice versa is arrogant, and short lived
This happens so much, The Captain is laid back and don’t want to listen to anyone because he’s done this for so many years. I used to run A Shuttle Car hauling Coal right beside A 10,000 Volt Continuous Miner Cable for 10 years without cutting it because I thought I was just too good. Then one day “WHAM” I cut it and the blue flame burned the hair off my arms, lol, We are human and we make mistakes.
I feel it’s important to add that one of the victims who was a school girl (16 year old) Ye Mengyuan, was eventually found to have died as a result of one of the emergency response fire trucks. She had in fact survived being thrown from the initial crash, but unfortunately succumbed to her injuries from the second event occurring. (I imagine it was because of the huge amount of dust that had accumulated, almost camouflaged her with the ground.) This, no doubt, was incredibly devastating for all involved; including the response team who were just trying to do their best to help in what was an incredibly dire scenario. 🕊 RIP to all 3 victims: Ye Mengyuan (16), Wang Linjia (16), and Liu Yipeng (15). 🕊
I Googled, cbc news said coroner report had her alive. Firefoghters had helmets recording and one of them described her as being likec"someone dropped a pumpkin".
Having spent years looking back and back at this, I have reached the conclusion that this detail is in genuine dispute. While I feel that she was unlikely to have survived the ejection from the aircraft (as was the case with the other casualties) I also acknowledge that it is believable that an accidental death from ER vehicles could well have been played down or covered up. Its a mute argument IMO at this point but one that I still understand is always brought up.
RIP this is their own fault though, well for 2 of them, they didnt put on seatbelts while the third girl unforunately was stuck and died due to smoke RIP
Three very important ops rules to do: 1. Always fly the airplane 2. Always cross check instruments when in either auto or manual mode and 3. Use checklists in every phase of flight i.e. A. Preflight, B. ground taxi, C. takeoff V1, V2, V3, D. Departure phase, E. Enroute phase, F. descent phase, G. Approach to landing phase. H. Ground ops to terminal phase.
Too right. Rule #1 seems to have been the one ignored the most. If you can’t see and feel what your a/c is doing, then maybe more actual pilot time is needed. I’ve read a lot of comments by ‘heavy’ and fly-by-wire pilots that they get their ‘feel’ back by piloting small planes fairly frequently. Otherwise it’s just flying a desk with ‘a lot of gauges and stuff’. (-Thanks, Pearl Harbor) Any other pilots share or disagree with that opinion? I read a comment by a pilot who had a decade of C-5 flight experience yet got rejected by a 3rd rate civilian cargo company. Their HR clown basically told him his experience was unnecessary: “We’ll teach you how to turn on the autopilot.” If that’s where aviation is or is headed, that’s a shame. It used to be a proud tradition and an honorable profession where skill and calm courage were valuable. I salute those who flew when planes were designed, built, and flown by people who loved flying.
Three excellent comments here. This might sound like a ridiculous analogy, but when you squat in the gym with heavyweights (a jumbo jet with passengers) no matter how many times you've done it, you must have 100% of your attention units on what you are doing, on your position in space and on the basic elements of your technique.
The first officer warned the captain 18 times. 18 times. And did not order a go-around until the ground proximity warning system issued a “sink rate” warning. 18 times.
As a plane crash survivor myself, I understand the chaos that insus after the the crash. Watching these videos always tears me up. No human deserves to be in plane crash. God bless the heroes that helped the survivors.
That must have been terrifying. 😢 I'm so sorry you were involved in a plane crash. Surviving trauma is a complex and long process. Wishing you strength and safety going forward. 💛🙏
I also feel bad for the worker who was told to just cover it with Masking tape. He was doing what his bosses said. When someone else should’ve later fixed the issue.
I know a captain who flies American Airlines planes. He never uses the auto pilot as he says you don't have the feel of your aircraft and he doesn't like that feeling.
The fact that these pilots are allowed to fly planes and don't even seem to know the basics of how these systems function is really an indictment of the airlines who allow them to fly without the proper training.
Well, I wouldn't blame the two pilots who got conflicting speed up and slow down warnings. That was an actual system error and had nothing to do with their skill.
That poor little girl. She traumatised for life..Among another word she uttered when another survivor came for her was, it is my first plane crash 🥺. Poor girl.
I am not a pilot, but I have flown in/out of SFO and it is NOT an easy airport to land at, especially being you have simultaneous landings and each jet has a very specific set of waypoints to hit. Miss any one of those and you have to abort the landing, and that's a headache all around. That being said, it felt like the crew was relying too much on the machine to do the flying and the machine wanted them to step in and do it!
@@bjvu9460 Yes, but that leads to pilots being overly dependent on the system, That when they actually have to takeover manually they are out of practice. It's like those cars that can parallel park themselves at a push of a button. If your always dependent on that system you won't be able to do it manually without a struggle.
I remember this air crash! I’ve flown into SFO and it is abit scary. This crash had students on the plane and one was thrown into the grasses so when the fire crew arrived this is bad as they drove over her! Not knowing that a passenger was thrown into the long grasses it’s just tragic rip victims 🙏🏼💖
If you have conflicting stall and overspeed warnings..keep the plane level with engine just below maximum thrust. Avoiding a stall is much more important than neutralizing an overspeed condition. In any event..as soon as something seems awry..no matter how trivial it appears..immediately contact ATC, squak a 7700, and find a place to land. Leave all troubleshooting to technicians on the ground. In planes, things escalate quickly from small problems to huge explosions.
The problem is you got this training after the accident so you know how to do it. If you have 2 different warnings and require 2 different solutions. That's the point in this accidents so you can learn from it.
Well the fact is when faced with such a conflict (both overspened and stall warning) all they have to do is look at their groundspeed, it's right in front of them all the time, this resolves the conflict IMMEDIATELY!!
Actually in the aeroperu case, the worker was told to remove the tape but he forgot...so it's totally on that man,he's to blame. But the supervisor should also have checked. complete negligence. Furthermore, most airlines even at that time were using red tape to cover pitot tubes and static ports- so the information here is incorrect in that the maintenance crew just did what was routine. The maintenance crew actually used the WRONG kind of tape which was white as shown. Again same employee. Watch the Mayday series...
Maybe so, but procedures should have checks and balances for all kinds of maintenance. Heck even for car and bike maintenance after the mechanic has worked, another guy checks the throttle and brakes. This is a plane for crying out loud.
You believe he was told to remove the tape? Sounds like someone covering their arse. The cleaners should have removed it immediately on finishing rather than relying on some ignorant low paid worker coming back. Also they should develop special tape that is transparent to the frequencies used.
I got a feeling that its not that they are bad pilots. It's just with countless hours with no incident, we humans just settled in and got used to the norm. When the unexpected happened, our brains just couldn't react fast enough.
The SFO crash: They were bad pilots. They lacked they general aviation training and experience so common in the USA where we have a proud history of the average USA citizen can save money and purchase or rent an airplane and fly off across the country.
The crash (or better yet, MURDER) where the captain didn't give the slightest sh**t about what his first officer was telling him, where he TOTALLY IGONRED not only one warning, but ALL OF THEM including VERY CRITICALwarnings, was the worst pilot EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long before this crash happened, every pilot knew perfecty well (and this is elementary) that once you get the pull up warning (and in this case it didn't coincide with any contradictory warning), YOU PULL UP AND GO AROUND! Unbelieveble!
We all make mistakes look at the one where they crashed the plane I forgot which one but they were all conctrating on changing a light bulb on their instruments but didn't pay attention to altitude
In the Asiana accident, it is staggering (to me at least) that no-one in the cockpit faced criminal charges and indeed continued to fly for Asiana after the accident.
I had a similar experience here in a South African airways flight called Kalula. Great pilots but after about 10 years still traumatic. We have great pilots.
I let a lady know online that I was watching one of these documentaries at the time and she never messaged back. I don't know what the problem was these videos are very informative and educational
That’s not the standard operating procedure for getting a lady to find you interesting. What you did there is what they call a red flag, what you should have told was I’m watching Game of Thrones or Love island or some crap like that….
Me too! In fact I can't give you my real name cause I scammed my way into a pilots job at a major Indonesian Airline and I'm flying a 747 out of Jakarta in the morning. Gotta go now got 6 more episodes to watch and a 747 use guide to read before 8a.m.! Wish me luck. Or should that be "wish US luck!" Bye now. PS you might want to watch the evening news tomorrow to determine how well I learned from Mayday.
Correct! And is not the first case like this… I think is better to fly on day light… 😢 but since aviation is about money like any business… sad… they put less people in the cockpit… measures to avoid costs…
If your getting an over speed alarm and stick shaker at the same time im always going to listen to the stick shaker. Classic case of pitot tubes malfunctioning or blocked.
This terrified me worse than if I actually flew. I've always been afraid of flying, and this is why!! I know the odds are low for a crash, but with my luck, I fear it will happen. I flew to Vegas from L.A. I started crying and the stewardess ended up putting me in first class to watch me. I was 25! But terrified! Fear of flying is real, and watch the video and tell me you weren't afraid .
I flew into SFO my first time in 2020 and looking out the window and seeing that approach was very intimidating….and I’ve flown in and out of JFK many times and never really worried about our pilots handling the landing…
A passenger could see they were coming in too low - well what were the pilots thinking?? As for a familiarity flight, wouldn't that be better if the plane was empty? Aren't they supposed to have flown enough flights in a simulator first ?? As for the cop who cried - that dude is a hero with the type of humanity that gave him the strength to enter the wreckage and save people without giving a thought to his own safety - proving that the instinct for self preservation is outweighed by that of species preservation
Im stunned that following these types of crashes they didnt add a aural alert that screams at you if the Autopilot or relevant mode (Autothrottle, Level Change, etc.) was disengaged, so as to avoid accidentally disconnecting the mode without realising it.
It does except in certain configurations when the airplane expects you to do that same thing deliberately. Some companies mandate autopilot and/or auto throttle be turned off during the final part of an approach. In general operating conditions the cavalier chime will annoy the hell out of you when the autopilot disconnects
There is no need for them, you just have to actually look at your ADI and it tells you to your face what's going on, respond accordingly, however like is so common these days, pilots are too reliant on automation and don't have a good state of aircraft awareness
In the case of the earlier aircraft (from 12 minutes on), the issue that I first thought of is this: The aircraft systems can't be trusted. They are contradictory and confusing, but they had assurances from a completely outside source that they were stable in flight. I'm just wondering if it was just the psychological "tunnel vision" that kept the captain from telling the ATC the following: "We are declaring an emergency. On board computer system 100% unreliable; unable to determine altitude, airspeed or heading. Visibility zero. Request vector back to airport for an emergency landing. Be advised: we require ATC to serve as navigation and altimeter until we are within visual. Please advise." To be clear, I thought that ground radar was used for aircraft, not just returning information from the aircraft.
The fact that there were multiple crashes caused by inadvertently turning off autopilot before they thought to put some sort of audible warning notifying pilots of the fact is... not great.
Never understood why a glass of water isn't placed in the cockpit of every aircraft. It may not give you altitude but it will tell you if your plane is leveled, rolling, ascending, & descending.
The same autopilot issue happened with Aeroflot , when pilot let his 15 year old to navigate airplane and he by accident switched off autopilot, without notification of it being switched off
I totally agree. I can't fathom why there isn't a vocal alert in plain English : "autopilot has been turned off." .... They certainly have it say in plain English "pull up!" So I don't see the problem.
@@breadbaker6670 I remember an ACI episode with an Embraer Brazilia, when the autopilot disconnected it had a lady's voice say "Autopilot!" It was also giving "Engine control!" and "Oil!" warnings.
I see more of a future in the displays changing colour combined with audio warnings. Pretty much every modern airplane has displays instead of dials, so why not fully use the capabilities of those displays? - If a specific display shows everything is within parameters, show a neutral outline on that display. - If the parameters are suddenly changing without a manual input has been given, flash the display in warning and/or change the colour of the outline to yellow. - If the pilots don't respond or the parameters are really deviating from normal, flash the display and change the outline to red. Human eyes are very susceptive to flashing lights and colours, so use that to your advantage. A tiny line or a few letters on a display changing simply doesn't draw enough attention and thus the pilots might miss that change.
The autopilot does give a loud warning when disconnecting UNLESS it’s in a mode where the disconnection is expected like final approach because a lot of the companies have a rule to disconnect autopilot and auto throttle and manually land.
Sad to see these mishap merely due to human error even though the pilot had the critical moments to overcome...I dont know whether my thoughts are correct or not ?. Whenever an autopilot is engaged or disengaged it should give an alarm to the pilot clearly saying that the autopilot is engaged/disengaged so that pilot can take the proactive actions. In the video we can clearly see that the flight control system was not showing any alarm (pls correct me if I am wrong) at the time when the pilot accidentally pressed the yoke (in the case of First Air), the pilot was not aware that the autopilot was actually disengaged. Also when the flight is approaching the run way and if the visibility is very poor even though all meter readings are correct, a high intensity(not harmful), what airports can do is to transmit a high intensity light beam to the air, kilometers away from the run way so that pilot will get an idea that they are almost near to the runway.
Everyone’s family on board should be compensated a huge amount for this stupid mistake that wasn’t the pilots fault !! From the start of this documentary you know the plain was a disaster and had huge malfunctions!!!
This is such a heartbreaking, & tragic accident 😢 I simply could not imagine going through something like this! My heart truly breaks for families of the victims, & for the survivors. RIP to the passengers who lost their lives, & prayers to their families, also sending prayers to the survivors of the crash🙏
Pilots should have noticed this tape on their preflight walk around, if they did one. History of static ports being blocked is regular and has been responsible for many accidents. Ice, tape, bugs, leaf matter, cobwebs all can cause a problem with the ports, pilots should be aware.
Trust your senses and not the computer. Even if the crosswalk light/beacon gives you the all clear to cross the road make sure to double check and verify that no rogue driver is gonna cut you off or run you over. Cars with blind spot detectors and radar systems are nice features but are not replacements for the good old shoulder check.
I flew in to SFO back in 2010, my very first time flying, and I remember thinking how scary being that close to the water was. My flight was at night. I can’t imagine what it looks like during the day and really being able to see it.
@Grassy Sands I’m sure it’s scary, but SFO is known for this approach, which is why I commented on it. There’s a reason it’s often talked about in terms of importance of skill.
There is nothing scary about water. It doesn't matter what is around the runway, desert, houses, flaming lava. What matters to the pilot is the runway. Water is one of the safest approaches.
@@rfarevalo it doesn’t matter how “safe” it is. A lot of people are terrified by the thought of really deep water. And no, that approach is actually a difficult one, as reported by foreign pilots. Especially after the sea wall crash happened there.
I cannot believe that the manufacturers of the aircraft are not mandated to have audible warnings that call out when something like the autopilot or auto-throttle are disengaged. I have watched many of these shows and seen many instances of aircrew bumping into something and having something disconnect leading to disaster. In a high stress cockpit environment everything that can help the aircrew know their status has to be there to make sure that something does not get overlooked, and it just is common sense to have audible warnings for this.
Also they should have Night vision glasees. Plus Take off and landing time check list must have Audio same time. So there are noway pilot can miss it. Plus stupid think. All pilot 99 percent depends on computer. They forgot how to fly manually. Its like Car GPS. I hate GPS WHILE driving. GPS YOU will loose our IQ
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 I disagree with that somewhat I got to ask you you're the mathematician how many deadly car accidents are in them 1,000 miles compared to a flight carrying 210 people? I'll stay on the ground
@@rcjr.7725 AGREED ‼️. and the likely hood of surviving a plane crash is 0% versus a car wreck. Which I have been in 4 car wrecks and walked away from all of them. I concur. I'll stay on the ground as well ‼️
This is just a idea... I have seen many fatal crashers dew to masking tapes,, Forgetting to take them off... You could allways use a multicolored tape for this job, so that it'll be hilighted and almost impossible to miss...
There are many instances of planes stalling. So, is it not possible to have a parachute that can be deployed at a critical moment which can save a stalling plane and perhaps even soften a crash? What do you think?
If you can figure out unauthorized or accidental deployment, sure. Someone even had the idea to cut the plane in half when in trouble and bring it down by chutes, Im having nightmares just thinking how wrong it could go..
@@janemiettinen5176 what if we allow the parachutes to deploy only when the plane begins to stall? So no one should be able to open the parachute unless the speed of the plane falls below a critical speed ( only when the plane begins to stall).
Many accidents in multiple-crewed aircraft happen because one pilot assumes the other did something, or one pilot does something the other isn't aware of. Now add a AP and AT, and you have 3 that think one or the other is flying the A/C. In single pilot, single engine spam cans like mine, you KNOW who is flying, and it's completely up to you to make the right decisions. These are sad accidents, and the crash with the blocked static ports, not pilot error. The Canada crash was ONE pilot error, one pilot ignored. Otherwise, I still can't believe that, automation aside, any pilot can NOT be aware of deteriorating airspeed. That's practically the first thing pilots learn. Airspeed=Life. I know the autopilot uses the AT's to control airspeed during cruise and climb, and keep the plane out of high altitude stalls, but close to the ground, I can't recall an instance where a auto throttle saved an airplane from a stall/spin.
My son is an aviation aspirant and he is 12yrs. my job is to make sure he sees every past mistake made by anyone in the industry and he is to be mentally prepared and be responsible pilot after acquiring CPL at his age.
On Air Peru, don't the pilots know that control tower takes info from the plane's own instrument? Don't they have simulation scenarios where plane altimeter/speedmeter is false? I bet half of the people watching this video knew it before watching from other episodes.
In 2010 the Polish president and other 95 people were killed in the same circumstances. The pilot ignored the warning ''pull up, pull up, terrain agead, terrain ahead'' several times untill it was sink rate.
I remember that too. The pilots were under great pressure to land and there was an officer that came with the president entourage in the cockpit. It actually distracted them.
maybe an alarm should follow Disconnecting & switching of auto pilot so that those that those accidental errors can be encountered ( your now on auto pilot mode or your on manual mode) just like the terrain alarm. or maybe the Whole dashboard tuns yellow for auto pilot & green for manual
Not to be insensitive or disrespectful but I have been told by pilots and other aviation employees from the US that many foreign carriers don't have the same training as Americans do..😪🙏
Aeroperú Flight 603 like Birgenair flight 301, Northwest Orient Airlines flight 6321, Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553, and Air France Flight 447, not knowing how sensors operate and their failure modes can be catastrophic. In the case of a pitot-static failure, placing the thrust-levers at a known power setting is the default action, along with obtaining a visual reference ASAP.
Jesus Christ, if the Starship Enterprise flies thru space w/out a problem, then modern airplane design really has a lot of catching up to do. Capt. unknowingly disengaged the auto pilot. Doesn't heed the co-pilot, Guess the plane should have said AUTOPILOT DISENGAGED..... Duh....planes talk, why didn't it give this info to the pilots ??? Totally befuddles me .😫😫😫 (and the Captain should have been more careful) . pilot error
having additional training certainly is a good thing, but the problem here seems to be that the autopilot / autothrottle turned off without any visual or audible notification.
This is why you gotta interrogate captain when entering the plane. I once said to the captain, lets have no maydays today. His smile faded to a dirty look
I have seen a few examples of the “one warning says over speed and another says stall” situation. In each one, stall was the true situation. I’m not an expert of any kind on this subject. I wonder if some types Of warnings are much more likely to be accurate or more than others. For example, imagine you had two indications regarding your bank balance. One says it is too low and the other says it is $10 million. Even if you don’t know what the balance is, you might be able to guess which is more likely to be true.
Based on all the stories I've seen where flight instruments were confusing and led to an accident, stall and ground proximity warnings seem to be most accurate.
What is shocking in all this is how easy it is to disengage automated systems eg auto throttle .auto pilot. .without any appreciable warnings.over reliance on computers is literally killing us
The bright red tape over the air pressure ports is not enough. On another video I watched there were long flapping plastic tiger tails over these ports - even so the pilot failed to see them on his walk around. There is evidently a need for alternarive sensors as fail safes, preferably sensors that receive data from a source not reliabt on air pressure. Domestic drones have anri collission sensors, fish finders use echo lication, these planes are equipped with radar surely that could be modified or used to check these air pressure ports? Even if one side of the aeroplane had a ooet that compared pressure readings from a port on the other side?
Peru: Lots of things were indicating the overspeed was wrong. Control only has the altitude sent by the transponder which is sent by the plane's instruments. They had the ground prox warning and the poor control that comes from low speed. As usual they went after the one with the money, Boeing in the lawsuit, not the ones responsible. They actually claimed that Boeing should've prevented someone from misusing their product which is asinine. If someone wants to misuse something they can find a way. Canada: Every hiker knows to set the declination on their compass. That far north it is even harder to trust your compass as magnetic north shifts position even more. The accidental turning off of the autopilot makes me wonder if we really want to trust millions of cars and drivers with automated vehicles.
That first one, it's amazing that wasn't much worse than what it ended up being (like one of the guys said in the film). When the initial crash showed I assumed nobody made it out until they started interviewing the survivors. I remember flying back home to Texas from Hawaii a few years ago and had to go from Hawaii to SF and flying into SF it was kind of creepy at least for me because I already have flying anxiety. You don't see the runway, just see all water but the plane is decending, of course they say on the overhead "prepare for landing" but still was wondering where the hell we were going to land lol. But ya that airport is a little wild if it's your first time landing there
I have got great insight about plane after watching AIR CRASH INVESTIGATION. why dont most poeple avoid watchin such intresting documentry . I have been watching it for more than 20 gears . Now i can say just by watching a plane flying in which direction itis going and how long its from runway and whats its altitude must be . Flying in air busis my biggest dream
One thing I learnt from watching Mayday is that the Ground proximity warning system and the stall warning is almost never wrong
Indeed, I was thinking the same about the Peru flight. As airspeed and altimeter are calculated via the pitot tube and static port, who has we know can be blocked bij tape or insects... A little bit of trained pilot
such give more believe to the GPWS as this is triggered bij the onboard radar.
That true. It's always shame that is the last saving grace pilots have flying at night.
After getting through 19 or so seasons of Mayday, I want to learn how to pack my own parachute and bring it as my carry on bag every time I fly anywhere lol
Also I agree with your comments and I'd trust the stick shaker more than any other warning light
yeah cause the stall warnings and ground proximity warning come from systems that function separate from the air speed and altitude alarms sadly pilots trust air speed and altitude alarms over the stall and ground proximity alarms
I don't understand why some pilots fly a plane completely ignoring their co-pilots. The entire point of having more than two pilots is to help reduce human error. If one of them thinks the plane is going to crash, then you pull up and listen to them.
I mean he should've said more than just " slope" .. " speed"...
Make full sentences..
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Huh how was it either of their fault if the plane gave separate readings?
Captains has final says Hays on UA232 was brilliant took all the help he coil get no ego their. You should listen to your co~pilot
It is called human error the pilot always think his right until it is too late. This is why pilots should be taught not to be prideful. His pride puts innocent people lives at risk.
I know it's his job and all but hatsoff to Jim Cunningham for getting inside the plane to rescue the passengers.
I’ve heard that the Asiana Flight Attendants were extremely professional, brave, pro-active in spite of the crash impact. Heroes.
I know nothing about aviation but these documentaries are so good.
Understandable. What this channel is trying to educate its viewers is that aircraft are only supposed to be touching the ground along the runway with wheels 🙏
well wait until you see more. They're not all that.
That Captain was a condescending POS. The First Officer was clearly telling him they were going off course. His narcissism cost their lives.
There’s sadly multiple examples of that very same issue happening.
@@ultrajd In cases like this, Hierarchy shouldn't matter in the cockpit. If one of them is distressed about something, that should be top priority first. The Ego factor must perish from the cockpit. They must be both at the same page at situations like this when one pilot is distressed and pointing something out
@@trentarnold2670 I agree. There’s one accident that was partially caused by an over egotistical pilot who wouldn’t listen to his crew.
It resulted in two planes from Pam-Am and KLM to slam into each other.
It’s because their displays were showing different things since they didn’t do a final compass heading. Unfortunately, First Air didn’t properly train them in CRM since it was in the form of lectures rather than simulations.
The most blatant one of these CRM issues was the Pakistan crash. The captain was berating the FO throughout the whole flight
I’d believe the stick shaker over an over speed warning. In all the air disaster doc’s I’ve watched the stick shaker was never wrong!
100 percent! I could not agree more.
@@higherresolution4490 Trust your tools or maintain them properly to be able to do so ,yes.
FACTS!!!
Aeroperu was some Bulljive
His tears were from his humanity seeing such devastation & human suffering. Empathy!!
I think they were talking about the firefighter in the first incident.
Just because you have done this 100 times, doesnt mean you cant make mistakes!
Yeah bro 👍👍👍
I try to remember this even when just driving my car.
The tiniest inattention or mistake could cost me or someone else our lives.
In fact, the more you do something over and over, the more likely you are to make a mistake.
@@marco1173Nah brah. If you keep dilligent EVERY time then that's totally false. This dude got complacent.
You have a Captain and First Officer for a good reason: Both need to communicate and coordinate. Any pilot who ignores his copilot or vice versa is arrogant, and short lived
This happens so much, The Captain is laid back and don’t want to listen to anyone because he’s done this for so many years. I used to run A Shuttle Car hauling Coal right beside A 10,000 Volt Continuous Miner Cable for 10 years without cutting it because I thought I was just too good. Then one day “WHAM” I cut it and the blue flame burned the hair off my arms, lol, We are human and we make mistakes.
I don't think the captain was laid back in the Aeroperu case...they were just getting conflicting readings...this was totally on the maintenance crew
Complacency can kill!
No this happened cause captain din't have much hours on that type of aircraft.!!!
That captain is entirely responsible for everyone's death. That captains ego killed everyone
I feel it’s important to add that one of the victims who was a school girl (16 year old) Ye Mengyuan, was eventually found to have died as a result of one of the emergency response fire trucks. She had in fact survived being thrown from the initial crash, but unfortunately succumbed to her injuries from the second event occurring. (I imagine it was because of the huge amount of dust that had accumulated, almost camouflaged her with the ground.)
This, no doubt, was incredibly devastating for all involved; including the response team who were just trying to do their best to help in what was an incredibly dire scenario.
🕊 RIP to all 3 victims: Ye Mengyuan (16), Wang Linjia (16), and Liu Yipeng (15). 🕊
Em she was already dead before the fire truck hit the girl according to the San Francisco city attorney's office.
I Googled, cbc news said coroner report had her alive. Firefoghters had helmets recording and one of them described her as being likec"someone dropped a pumpkin".
Having spent years looking back and back at this, I have reached the conclusion that this detail is in genuine dispute. While I feel that she was unlikely to have survived the ejection from the aircraft (as was the case with the other casualties) I also acknowledge that it is believable that an accidental death from ER vehicles could well have been played down or covered up. Its a mute argument IMO at this point but one that I still understand is always brought up.
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RIP this is their own fault though, well for 2 of them, they didnt put on seatbelts while the third girl unforunately was stuck and died due to smoke RIP
Three very important ops rules to do: 1. Always fly the airplane 2. Always cross check instruments when in either auto or manual mode and 3. Use checklists in every phase of flight i.e. A. Preflight, B. ground taxi, C. takeoff V1, V2, V3, D. Departure phase, E. Enroute phase, F. descent phase, G. Approach to landing phase. H. Ground ops to terminal phase.
Too right. Rule #1 seems to have been the one ignored the most. If you can’t see and feel what your a/c is doing, then maybe more actual pilot time is needed.
I’ve read a lot of comments by ‘heavy’ and fly-by-wire pilots that they get their ‘feel’ back by piloting small planes fairly frequently. Otherwise it’s just flying a desk with ‘a lot of gauges and stuff’. (-Thanks, Pearl Harbor)
Any other pilots share or disagree with that opinion?
I read a comment by a pilot who had a decade of C-5 flight experience yet got rejected by a 3rd rate civilian cargo company. Their HR clown basically told him his experience was unnecessary: “We’ll teach you how to turn on the autopilot.” If that’s where aviation is or is headed, that’s a shame. It used to be a proud tradition and an honorable profession where skill and calm courage were valuable. I salute those who flew when planes were designed, built, and flown by people who loved flying.
Three excellent comments here. This might sound like a ridiculous analogy, but when you squat in the gym with heavyweights (a jumbo jet with passengers) no matter how many times you've done it, you must have 100% of your attention units on what you are doing, on your position in space and on the basic elements of your technique.
The first officer warned the captain 18 times. 18 times. And did not order a go-around until the ground proximity warning system issued a “sink rate” warning. 18 times.
They think they know best. He is now humbled in hell.
@@mr.k1611
LoL
Cultural - good luck trying to tell an Asian in authority that he wrong.
That captain needs to be fired and reprimanded, even if he's dead.
How many times did he warn the Captain?
As a plane crash survivor myself, I understand the chaos that insus after the the crash. Watching these videos always tears me up. No human deserves to be in plane crash. God bless the heroes that helped the survivors.
That must have been terrifying. 😢 I'm so sorry you were involved in a plane crash. Surviving trauma is a complex and long process. Wishing you strength and safety going forward. 💛🙏
My bullshit meter just went off. If you want attention, get a dog.
In which plane crash u were involved !? 😮
😥😥
God bless you! Yes God bless the hero’s involved! Stay strong! ❤
That poor man who lost his nephew. Then investigated it after. Hearing his last words.
I also feel bad for the worker who was told to just cover it with Masking tape. He was doing what his bosses said. When someone else should’ve later fixed the issue.
Yeah I also feel sorry for him
I know a captain who flies American Airlines planes. He never uses the auto pilot as he says you don't have the feel of your aircraft and he doesn't like that feeling.
I know who I’m gonna fly with now
I’m with that guy…I can’t stand cruise control on my car!!!
The dignity of the father talking about his daughter is incredible and moved me to tears. I cannot imagine the pain he must feel.
The fact that these pilots are allowed to fly planes and don't even seem to know the basics of how these systems function is really an indictment of the airlines who allow them to fly without the proper training.
Well, I wouldn't blame the two pilots who got conflicting speed up and slow down warnings. That was an actual system error and had nothing to do with their skill.
Thank you for bringing that to our attention Mr. Jaberwaukee! 🐨
@@rirururu4697except if you understand how the plane works, you know to trust stick shaker over overspeed.
That poor little girl. She traumatised for life..Among another word she uttered when another survivor came for her was, it is my first plane crash 🥺. Poor girl.
Pitch Dark Over Ocean....Wing Hits Water and Plane Inverts...The Terror The Passengers Endured (Even if Briefly) is Unimagineable!
No planes no boats no cruise ships
I am not a pilot, but I have flown in/out of SFO and it is NOT an easy airport to land at, especially being you have simultaneous landings and each jet has a very specific set of waypoints to hit. Miss any one of those and you have to abort the landing, and that's a headache all around. That being said, it felt like the crew was relying too much on the machine to do the flying and the machine wanted them to step in and do it!
isnt that why they created the machines and companies spend millions on upgrade? or am i missing something?
@@bjvu9460 Yes, but that leads to pilots being overly dependent on the system, That when they actually have to takeover manually they are out of practice. It's like those cars that can parallel park themselves at a push of a button. If your always dependent on that system you won't be able to do it manually without a struggle.
And still tens of thousands of flights departure and land there every year...
I remember this air crash! I’ve flown into SFO and it is abit scary. This crash had students on the plane and one was thrown into the grasses so when the fire crew arrived this is bad as they drove over her! Not knowing that a passenger was thrown into the long grasses it’s just tragic rip victims 🙏🏼💖
I can’t even imagine the horror… those poor people…. I think these pilots need to start listening to there co pilots more often
If you have conflicting stall and overspeed warnings..keep the plane level with engine just below maximum thrust.
Avoiding a stall is much more important than neutralizing an overspeed condition.
In any event..as soon as something seems awry..no matter how trivial it appears..immediately contact ATC, squak a 7700, and find a place to land.
Leave all troubleshooting to technicians on the ground.
In planes, things escalate quickly from small problems to huge explosions.
Not a Pilot but was thinking the exact same thing. Overspeed is not immediately damaging the plane because there is some treshhold to the warning
The problem is you got this training after the accident so you know how to do it. If you have 2 different warnings and require 2 different solutions.
That's the point in this accidents so you can learn from it.
Well the fact is when faced with such a conflict (both overspened and stall warning) all they have to do is look at their groundspeed, it's right in front of them all the time, this resolves the conflict IMMEDIATELY!!
@@pirate3599 Not in every cockpit, and also not necessarily trustworthy.
Actually in the aeroperu case, the worker was told to remove the tape but he forgot...so it's totally on that man,he's to blame. But the supervisor should also have checked. complete negligence. Furthermore, most airlines even at that time were using red tape to cover pitot tubes and static ports- so the information here is incorrect in that the maintenance crew just did what was routine. The maintenance crew actually used the WRONG kind of tape which was white as shown. Again same employee.
Watch the Mayday series...
Maybe so, but procedures should have checks and balances for all kinds of maintenance. Heck even for car and bike maintenance after the mechanic has worked, another guy checks the throttle and brakes. This is a plane for crying out loud.
The company close down anyway.
You believe he was told to remove the tape? Sounds like someone covering their arse. The cleaners should have removed it immediately on finishing rather than relying on some ignorant low paid worker coming back.
Also they should develop special tape that is transparent to the frequencies used.
@@ninelaivz4334 the pitot tubes don’t use radio waves. They use air pressure so anything blocking the tube will make it malfunction
The first officer is also supposed to do a walk around before flight and look at those tubes. So he failed that as well. So there is that.
I got a feeling that its not that they are bad pilots. It's just with countless hours with no incident, we humans just settled in and got used to the norm. When the unexpected happened, our brains just couldn't react fast enough.
The SFO crash: They were bad pilots. They lacked they general aviation training and experience so common in the USA where we have a proud history of the average USA citizen can save money and purchase or rent an airplane and fly off across the country.
The crash (or better yet, MURDER) where the captain didn't give the slightest sh**t about what his first officer was telling him, where he TOTALLY IGONRED not only one warning, but ALL OF THEM including VERY CRITICALwarnings, was the worst pilot EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long before this crash happened, every pilot knew perfecty well (and this is elementary) that once you get the pull up warning (and in this case it didn't coincide with any contradictory warning), YOU PULL UP AND GO AROUND! Unbelieveble!
@@osubirana like I've said, they were so used to calm flights, that when they got into such situation, the captain just froze.
@@kevint1160human psychology
We all make mistakes look at the one where they crashed the plane I forgot which one but they were all conctrating on changing a light bulb on their instruments but didn't pay attention to altitude
In the Asiana accident, it is staggering (to me at least) that no-one in the cockpit faced criminal charges and indeed continued to fly for Asiana after the accident.
I had a similar experience here in a South African airways flight called Kalula. Great pilots but after about 10 years still traumatic. We have great pilots.
I let a lady know online that I was watching one of these documentaries at the time and she never messaged back. I don't know what the problem was these videos are very informative and educational
Her loss
She may have started watching and can't stop now lol
@@jenniferlewis3933 I shouldn't be alive anyway haha
That’s not the standard operating procedure for getting a lady to find you interesting. What you did there is what they call a red flag, what you should have told was I’m watching Game of Thrones or Love island or some crap like that….
@@TheXennner haha lies, we both weren't interested in each other being ourselves.
I'm rather surprised a family member can investigate a crash like the Peru one surely its a conflict of interest?
I hope the captain went to jail. “I shouldn’t have had to worry about airspeed.” Seriously?! You’re responsible
Yeah they never mentioned what happened to these asian pilots hope they never flew again
You hope the captaIn goes to Jail? How's that can even happen? Its in the atlantic Ocean....I think.
Tragic accidents and so sad for all families. RIP to the victims.
Now by watching all episodes,I feel I'm qualified to fly airplane.
lol go ahead
Yeah, until you get in one and panic.!!!! Lol
More likely to crash to crash one
Me too! In fact I can't give you my real name cause I scammed my way into a pilots job at a major Indonesian
Airline and I'm flying a 747 out of Jakarta in the morning. Gotta go now got 6 more episodes to watch and a 747 use guide to read before 8a.m.! Wish me luck. Or should that be "wish US luck!" Bye now. PS you might want to watch the evening news tomorrow to determine how well I learned from Mayday.
@@scotthamel7385 must be kidding
the air peru case was most unfortunate ..... if the flight was in the day where there is better visibility, the survival chance maybe better ....
Correct! And is not the first case like this… I think is better to fly on day light… 😢 but since aviation is about money like any business… sad… they put less people in the cockpit… measures to avoid costs…
If your getting an over speed alarm and stick shaker at the same time im always going to listen to the stick shaker.
Classic case of pitot tubes malfunctioning or blocked.
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I salute the incredible bravery of the actor's who re-create these near certain fatal accidents, so few survive!.
This terrified me worse than if I actually flew. I've always been afraid of flying, and this is why!! I know the odds are low for a crash, but with my luck, I fear it will happen. I flew to Vegas from L.A. I started crying and the stewardess ended up putting me in first class to watch me. I was 25! But terrified! Fear of flying is real, and watch the video and tell me you weren't afraid .
I too am terrified of flying. My neighbour died in a plane crash.
If you get a gut feeling, go with that ...
I flew into SFO my first time in 2020 and looking out the window and seeing that approach was very intimidating….and I’ve flown in and out of JFK many times and never really worried about our pilots handling the landing…
😍
@@urmwhynot same
Huh. I've landed both and never really noticed an issue. You're referring to the runways proximity to the water?
A passenger could see they were coming in too low - well what were the pilots thinking?? As for a familiarity flight, wouldn't that be better if the plane was empty? Aren't they supposed to have flown enough flights in a simulator first ?? As for the cop who cried - that dude is a hero with the type of humanity that gave him the strength to enter the wreckage and save people without giving a thought to his own safety - proving that the instinct for self preservation is outweighed by that of species preservation
Im stunned that following these types of crashes they didnt add a aural alert that screams at you if the Autopilot or relevant mode (Autothrottle, Level Change, etc.) was disengaged, so as to avoid accidentally disconnecting the mode without realising it.
It does except in certain configurations when the airplane expects you to do that same thing deliberately. Some companies mandate autopilot and/or auto throttle be turned off during the final part of an approach. In general operating conditions the cavalier chime will annoy the hell out of you when the autopilot disconnects
Same, it doesn't cost anything to put a dozen of vocal commands and few electronics to monitor this, just bumping on a stick caused a fatal error.
There is no need for them, you just have to actually look at your ADI and it tells you to your face what's going on, respond accordingly, however like is so common these days, pilots are too reliant on automation and don't have a good state of aircraft awareness
Soviet planes did.
In the case of the earlier aircraft (from 12 minutes on), the issue that I first thought of is this: The aircraft systems can't be trusted. They are contradictory and confusing, but they had assurances from a completely outside source that they were stable in flight. I'm just wondering if it was just the psychological "tunnel vision" that kept the captain from telling the ATC the following:
"We are declaring an emergency. On board computer system 100% unreliable; unable to determine altitude, airspeed or heading. Visibility zero. Request vector back to airport for an emergency landing. Be advised: we require ATC to serve as navigation and altimeter until we are within visual. Please advise."
To be clear, I thought that ground radar was used for aircraft, not just returning information from the aircraft.
Arrogance of the pilot is the cause of the death in the third flight.
It was nothing to do with technology but incompetence and over confidence.
I can Imagine the completely horrible nightmare inside the cockpit if Air Peru, all because of a masking tape.
The fact that there were multiple crashes caused by inadvertently turning off autopilot before they thought to put some sort of audible warning notifying pilots of the fact is... not great.
The jetliner nose digging into the dirt and back end going up and on over. This is called a "CARTWHEEL", in the US.
The arrogance of the captain, ignoring the 1st officer, unbelievable
Dont be racist
@@johnredcorn2476 your the racist
gotta love "culture" right???
@@Qsefthuko4 smelly and arrogant
Never understood why a glass of water isn't placed in the cockpit of every aircraft. It may not give you altitude but it will tell you if your plane is leveled, rolling, ascending, & descending.
1:15 1:18 Asiana Flight 214 is on the seaward approach to San Francisco International Airport
The same autopilot issue happened with Aeroflot , when pilot let his 15 year old to navigate airplane and he by accident switched off autopilot, without notification of it being switched off
I saw that one. I felt so bad for the mom to loose both her children and her husband. Heartbreaking 💔
They need to do audio to indicate if auto-pilots is on 🥲
There should be a loud distinct beep or something when the autopilot switches off.
I totally agree. I can't fathom why there isn't a vocal alert in plain English : "autopilot has been turned off." .... They certainly have it say in plain English "pull up!" So I don't see the problem.
@@breadbaker6670 I remember an ACI episode with an Embraer Brazilia, when the autopilot disconnected it had a lady's voice say "Autopilot!"
It was also giving "Engine control!" and "Oil!" warnings.
I see more of a future in the displays changing colour combined with audio warnings. Pretty much every modern airplane has displays instead of dials, so why not fully use the capabilities of those displays?
- If a specific display shows everything is within parameters, show a neutral outline on that display.
- If the parameters are suddenly changing without a manual input has been given, flash the display in warning and/or change the colour of the outline to yellow.
- If the pilots don't respond or the parameters are really deviating from normal, flash the display and change the outline to red.
Human eyes are very susceptive to flashing lights and colours, so use that to your advantage. A tiny line or a few letters on a display changing simply doesn't draw enough attention and thus the pilots might miss that change.
The autopilot does give a loud warning when disconnecting UNLESS it’s in a mode where the disconnection is expected like final approach because a lot of the companies have a rule to disconnect autopilot and auto throttle and manually land.
@@tjroelsma yeah good ideas. Sadly Boeing hasn’t even implemented an ECAM system unlike Airbus so that shows how behind they are.
Sad to see these mishap merely due to human error even though the pilot had the critical moments to overcome...I dont know whether my thoughts are correct or not ?.
Whenever an autopilot is engaged or disengaged it should give an alarm to the pilot clearly saying that the autopilot is engaged/disengaged so that pilot can take the proactive actions. In the video we can clearly see that the flight control system was not showing any alarm (pls correct me if I am wrong) at the time when the pilot accidentally pressed the yoke (in the case of First Air), the pilot was not aware that the autopilot was actually disengaged. Also when the flight is approaching the run way and if the visibility is very poor even though all meter readings are correct, a high intensity(not harmful), what airports can do is to transmit a high intensity light beam to the air, kilometers away from the run way so that pilot will get an idea that they are almost near to the runway.
Everyone’s family on board should be compensated a huge amount for this stupid mistake that wasn’t the pilots fault !!
From the start of this documentary you know the plain was a disaster and had huge malfunctions!!!
This is such a heartbreaking, & tragic accident 😢 I simply could not imagine going through something like this! My heart truly breaks for families of the victims, & for the survivors. RIP to the passengers who lost their lives, & prayers to their families, also sending prayers to the survivors of the crash🙏
arrogant old flight captains are scary
Very well put together! Well done!!!
If in doubt. Go around. . To be remembered as the one that went around. Is far better than the alternative.
my show here. love these stories .
Arrogance leads to these unfortunate events, so sad for all the victims & their families
Inadequate training to ATC is the cause of this accident
Pilots should have noticed this tape on their preflight walk around, if they did one.
History of static ports being blocked is regular and has been responsible for many accidents.
Ice, tape, bugs, leaf matter, cobwebs all can cause a problem with the ports, pilots should be aware.
Trust your senses and not the computer. Even if the crosswalk light/beacon gives you the all clear to cross the road make sure to double check and verify that no rogue driver is gonna cut you off or run you over. Cars with blind spot detectors and radar systems are nice features but are not replacements for the good old shoulder check.
Take off and landing 🛬 are the 2 most dangerous parts of a flight ✈️
Shut up
And mid flight because anything can go wrong
Jim Cunningham looks to be a lovely man. Sad he is still so affected by it. 😞
I flew in to SFO back in 2010, my very first time flying, and I remember thinking how scary being that close to the water was. My flight was at night. I can’t imagine what it looks like during the day and really being able to see it.
Try flying to St. Maarten one day. You will freak out out
@@Guns-and-Moses I was actually talking about that airport to my mom the other day. 😂 I want to ride the blast zone chain link. 😂
@Grassy Sands I’m sure it’s scary, but SFO is known for this approach, which is why I commented on it. There’s a reason it’s often talked about in terms of importance of skill.
There is nothing scary about water. It doesn't matter what is around the runway, desert, houses, flaming lava. What matters to the pilot is the runway. Water is one of the safest approaches.
@@rfarevalo it doesn’t matter how “safe” it is. A lot of people are terrified by the thought of really deep water. And no, that approach is actually a difficult one, as reported by foreign pilots. Especially after the sea wall crash happened there.
I cannot believe that the manufacturers of the aircraft are not mandated to have audible warnings that call out when something like the autopilot or auto-throttle are disengaged. I have watched many of these shows and seen many instances of aircrew bumping into something and having something disconnect leading to disaster. In a high stress cockpit environment everything that can help the aircrew know their status has to be there to make sure that something does not get overlooked, and it just is common sense to have audible warnings for this.
Also they should have Night vision glasees. Plus Take off and landing time check list must have Audio same time. So there are noway pilot can miss it. Plus stupid think. All pilot 99 percent depends on computer. They forgot how to fly manually. Its like Car GPS. I hate GPS WHILE driving. GPS YOU will loose our IQ
I remember our news so sad! They hit the sea wall. One girl was thrown out and then run over!!! Terrible !!
AEROPERU 603 If the plane had the wrong altitude how does it know it is too low for the Ground Proximity Warning alarm to sound? Different system?
GPWS uses the radio altimeter, not the barometric one
We never know when our ticket is going to be punched
True but the odds are still only about 1 to 500.000 in an average worldwide ✈️ in a flight of around 1000 miles
i travelled over 3000 miles.
When it's our time, we will be there
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 I disagree with that somewhat I got to ask you you're the mathematician how many deadly car accidents are in them 1,000 miles compared to a flight carrying 210 people? I'll stay on the ground
@@rcjr.7725 AGREED ‼️. and the likely hood of surviving a plane crash is 0% versus a car wreck. Which I have been in 4 car wrecks and walked away from all of them. I concur. I'll stay on the ground as well ‼️
This is just a idea...
I have seen many fatal crashers dew to masking tapes,,
Forgetting to take them off... You could allways use a multicolored tape for this job, so that it'll be hilighted and almost impossible to miss...
There are many instances of planes stalling. So, is it not possible to have a parachute that can be deployed at a critical moment which can save a stalling plane and perhaps even soften a crash? What do you think?
If you can figure out unauthorized or accidental deployment, sure. Someone even had the idea to cut the plane in half when in trouble and bring it down by chutes, Im having nightmares just thinking how wrong it could go..
@@janemiettinen5176 what if we allow the parachutes to deploy only when the plane begins to stall? So no one should be able to open the parachute unless the speed of the plane falls below a critical speed ( only when the plane begins to stall).
Many accidents in multiple-crewed aircraft happen because one pilot assumes the other did something, or one pilot does something the other isn't aware of. Now add a AP and AT, and you have 3 that think one or the other is flying the A/C. In single pilot, single engine spam cans like mine, you KNOW who is flying, and it's completely up to you to make the right decisions. These are sad accidents, and the crash with the blocked static ports, not pilot error. The Canada crash was ONE pilot error, one pilot ignored. Otherwise, I still can't believe that, automation aside, any pilot can NOT be aware of deteriorating airspeed. That's practically the first thing pilots learn. Airspeed=Life. I know the autopilot uses the AT's to control airspeed during cruise and climb, and keep the plane out of high altitude stalls, but close to the ground, I can't recall an instance where a auto throttle saved an airplane from a stall/spin.
My son is an aviation aspirant and he is 12yrs. my job is to make sure he sees every past mistake made by anyone in the industry and he is to be mentally prepared and be responsible pilot after acquiring CPL at his age.
Terrible idea. You are gonna freak him out. Hes 12
@@bradchervel5202 ☹️
He's 12. Let him be a kid for now. He will understand these things by himself once he reaches that level of maturity.
Learn to use the English language better before you embarrass your family any further.
*Another great documentary*
On Air Peru, don't the pilots know that control tower takes info from the plane's own instrument? Don't they have simulation scenarios where plane altimeter/speedmeter is false? I bet half of the people watching this video knew it before watching from other episodes.
obviously they didn't. such a shame that the plane didn't have someone as smart as you with 20/20 hindsight and the internet to fly instead.
Kudos To The Investigators..Reconstructing Before/After The Crash..Every Second Of The Flight…To Find Answers And Wat Caused Accident(s)…
Pilots are like a marriage. Communication is key
The fact you can knock off auto pilot without there being any form of acknowledgment via a visual light or alarm is madness !!
In 2010 the Polish president and other 95 people were killed in the same circumstances. The pilot ignored the warning ''pull up, pull up, terrain agead, terrain ahead'' several times untill it was sink rate.
I remember that too. The pilots were under great pressure to land and there was an officer that came with the president entourage in the cockpit. It actually distracted them.
maybe an alarm should follow Disconnecting & switching of auto pilot so that those that those accidental errors can be encountered ( your now on auto pilot mode or your on manual mode) just like the terrain alarm. or maybe the Whole dashboard tuns yellow for auto pilot & green for manual
Not to be insensitive or disrespectful but I have been told by pilots and other aviation employees from the US that many foreign carriers don't have the same training as Americans do..😪🙏
Aeroperú Flight 603 like Birgenair flight 301, Northwest Orient Airlines flight 6321, Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553, and Air France Flight 447, not knowing how sensors operate and their failure modes can be catastrophic. In the case of a pitot-static failure, placing the thrust-levers at a known power setting is the default action, along with obtaining a visual reference ASAP.
Jesus Christ, if the Starship Enterprise flies thru space w/out a problem, then modern airplane design really has a lot of catching up to do. Capt. unknowingly disengaged the auto pilot. Doesn't heed the co-pilot, Guess the plane should have said AUTOPILOT DISENGAGED..... Duh....planes talk, why didn't it give this info to the pilots ??? Totally befuddles me .😫😫😫 (and the Captain should have been more careful) . pilot error
Only that pilot kept his ego aside and listened to his co pilot..
Lee Can Cook.
Sorry, but I couldn’t resist. 😂
Pretty good. Unfortunately I watched a video that had Kam Sung Yung Guy.
Stop it
Yu Wong.
@@johnmuldoon9228😂😂
having additional training certainly is a good thing, but the problem here seems to be that the autopilot / autothrottle turned off without any visual or audible notification.
This is why you gotta interrogate captain when entering the plane. I once said to the captain, lets have no maydays today. His smile faded to a dirty look
I've never flown in my life and after few episodes I really don't wanna change it lol.
Flying is so fun and safe
I have seen a few examples of the “one warning says over speed and another says stall” situation. In each one, stall was the true situation. I’m not an expert of any kind on this subject. I wonder if some types Of warnings are much more likely to be accurate or more than others. For example, imagine you had two indications regarding your bank balance. One says it is too low and the other says it is $10 million. Even if you don’t know what the balance is, you might be able to guess which is more likely to be true.
Based on all the stories I've seen where flight instruments were confusing and led to an accident, stall and ground proximity warnings seem to be most accurate.
@@wordforger Apparently it's have a separate port on the plane's surface.
Frightening don`t you agree?
Narrator says "and after impact it was too late to recover." Hel-lo.
OMG!! The painters a hippie too! It's a bloody miracle the plane ever even got off the ground!
Very well done! Unique and interesting content.
Why are the warnings always too late?
What is shocking in all this is how easy it is to disengage automated systems eg auto throttle .auto pilot. .without any appreciable warnings.over reliance on computers is literally killing us
It's certainly good that it's this easy to disengage....but who the hell thought it was a good idea to not include a "I'm off now" warning?
43:27 John Cox is referring to Eastern Airlines Flight 401
Plane crashes are really so frightening. You don't have a chance. Makes me really cry for all those who have lost their lives, this way😪
Most people survived this crash so to say you have no chance is an exaggeration
The bright red tape over the air pressure ports is not enough. On another video I watched there were long flapping plastic tiger tails over these ports - even so the pilot failed to see them on his walk around. There is evidently a need for alternarive sensors as fail safes, preferably sensors that receive data from a source not reliabt on air pressure.
Domestic drones have anri collission sensors, fish finders use echo lication, these planes are equipped with radar surely that could be modified or used to check these air pressure ports? Even if one side of the aeroplane had a ooet that compared pressure readings from a port on the other side?
As much as I prefer when everyone dies in these as it makes the mystery better, sometimes its nice to hear interviews from survivors 🤗
Peru:
Lots of things were indicating the overspeed was wrong. Control only has the altitude sent by the transponder which is sent by the plane's instruments. They had the ground prox warning and the poor control that comes from low speed.
As usual they went after the one with the money, Boeing in the lawsuit, not the ones responsible. They actually claimed that Boeing should've prevented someone from misusing their product which is asinine. If someone wants to misuse something they can find a way.
Canada:
Every hiker knows to set the declination on their compass. That far north it is even harder to trust your compass as magnetic north shifts position even more.
The accidental turning off of the autopilot makes me wonder if we really want to trust millions of cars and drivers with automated vehicles.
That first one, it's amazing that wasn't much worse than what it ended up being (like one of the guys said in the film). When the initial crash showed I assumed nobody made it out until they started interviewing the survivors.
I remember flying back home to Texas from Hawaii a few years ago and had to go from Hawaii to SF and flying into SF it was kind of creepy at least for me because I already have flying anxiety. You don't see the runway, just see all water but the plane is decending, of course they say on the overhead "prepare for landing" but still was wondering where the hell we were going to land lol.
But ya that airport is a little wild if it's your first time landing there
I think the most important modification required is to install a warning system when autopilot is disengaged
There is that warning sound whenever autopilot disengages,
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