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  • @WEEGEEV1RUS
    @WEEGEEV1RUS 5 років тому +1105

    It's still a stealth mission if there's no one left to spot you.

  • @WEEGEEV1RUS
    @WEEGEEV1RUS 5 років тому +1026

    All ghillied up, but it's actually no russian.

    • @khaledbaadarani
      @khaledbaadarani 5 років тому +2

      IM RUSSIAN

    • @ravenalinsonorin9212
      @ravenalinsonorin9212 5 років тому +9

      the og no russian mission

    • @fasuto8656
      @fasuto8656 5 років тому +12

      There were actually no Russian cuz Lieutenant Price killed all of 'em

    • @volsorg3254
      @volsorg3254 4 роки тому +19

      10:16 Remember, no dogs.

    • @guy2026
      @guy2026 3 роки тому

      @@ravenalinsonorin9212 literally

  • @JohnnyCasey
    @JohnnyCasey 6 років тому +636

    "The word stealth doesn't mean anything to you, does it?"
    Well....

    • @BlitzHerro
      @BlitzHerro 4 роки тому +1

      Johnny Casey 🤣🤣🤣

    • @adamsatrya6100
      @adamsatrya6100 3 роки тому +2

      Cpt. Price also say that ini MW 2 🤣🤣🤣

  • @hafidza.p8584
    @hafidza.p8584 5 років тому +688

    Player: killed all enemy
    Zhakaev: where the hell is my army?

    • @paulcl9986
      @paulcl9986 5 років тому +6

      @I am legally allowed to say the N-word You mean Yuran?

    • @easy2179
      @easy2179 5 років тому +4

      @I am legally allowed to say the N-word say the N-word

    • @easongoldman1011
      @easongoldman1011 5 років тому +1

      $:I removed those bugs

    • @HELLYEAHF00
      @HELLYEAHF00 5 років тому +1

      @John Mari Anog laughed more than i shouldve

    • @hatemails
      @hatemails 4 роки тому

      @John Mari Anog *ba dum tss*

  • @ninepointeight7279
    @ninepointeight7279 5 років тому +559

    Everybody's gansta until the bush pickups the AK-47

    • @ch4vel
      @ch4vel 5 років тому +11

      Fucking lol

    • @floppaenjoyer683
      @floppaenjoyer683 5 років тому +4

      💀💀💀

    • @MRGrim666
      @MRGrim666 4 роки тому +16

      *laughs in rpd*

    • @rgb_82
      @rgb_82 3 роки тому +9

      Everybody gangsta till the bushes start talking Vietnamese.

    • @ashut0ast23
      @ashut0ast23 2 роки тому +1

      Aww hell nah

  • @BmorePatriot
    @BmorePatriot 5 років тому +393

    “All right. Now you’re just showing off.” After taking out the helicopter. Kinda gets me.

  • @TopGuardDawg
    @TopGuardDawg 5 років тому +343

    Macmillan: Thats alot of hardware john what you planning on doing
    Price: what you taught me to do kill em all

  • @spider_xcvii
    @spider_xcvii 4 роки тому +85

    MacMillan: “We won’t get very far trying to shoot our way out of every situation”
    Price: “I beg to differ”

  • @thatdudewelove8498
    @thatdudewelove8498 6 років тому +438

    "Not bad, but I've seen better"-Announcer

  • @bit_ronic
    @bit_ronic 7 років тому +240

    jesus christ that is one resistant lieutenant

  • @TheBlueEyes2005
    @TheBlueEyes2005 5 років тому +90

    Cpt.Macmillan: don't do that again.
    *shot the dog*
    Cpt.Macmillan: that doesn't sound good

  • @thegrim4769
    @thegrim4769 7 років тому +306

    Patience... don't do anything stupid

    • @deucedaman
      @deucedaman 6 років тому +4

      Your average Sainsbury's Trolly No he couldn’t. She took out a jet with a low caliber rifle.

    • @awesomerikd168
      @awesomerikd168 5 років тому +2

      Bet

    • @GameMaker3_5
      @GameMaker3_5 4 роки тому +2

      I LIVE to be stupid!

  • @MiamiMarkYT
    @MiamiMarkYT 2 роки тому +39

    Doing this mission just like this was my dream as a kid playing this game for the first time. Thank you.

  • @22_Will
    @22_Will 5 років тому +261

    The word “stealth”, doesn’t mean anything to you, does it? I love how Mac gets angrier every time you engage enemies.

    • @adamsatrya6100
      @adamsatrya6100 3 роки тому +6

      Cpt. Price also say that ini MW 2 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ironcross3449
    @ironcross3449 5 років тому +29

    "What the bloody hell was that?You're trying to get us killed? Move up and don't do that again"
    5 seconds later shoots at the dog and macmillan taking the "i'm so fed up with your bullshit" tone cracked me up 🤣🤣🤣

  • @taylorharbin3948
    @taylorharbin3948 9 місяців тому +9

    Can you imagine the after action report Macmillan would have submitted? “Lt. Price continuously disobeyed my orders and needlessly put us in danger, all the time mumbling something about a high score.”

  • @SavagePatch115
    @SavagePatch115 8 років тому +174

    1:38 I'm dead

  • @nixrs1441
    @nixrs1441 5 років тому +90

    Cpt.MacMillan: what the bloody hell was that? You try to get us killed? Move up...and don't do that again.
    Price: eat a snikers.

  • @rouymalic4463
    @rouymalic4463 5 років тому +89

    Ghillie Suit: Am I joke to you?

  • @TomiBostero12
    @TomiBostero12 5 років тому +53

    -You cant kill everyone in a stealth mission. -Price: hold my cigar

    • @wolfric951
      @wolfric951 5 років тому +1

      cigar*

    • @Kameraman712
      @Kameraman712 5 років тому

      Cigar

    • @TomiBostero12
      @TomiBostero12 5 років тому +1

      @@Kameraman712 sorry. Im not english

    • @Kameraman712
      @Kameraman712 5 років тому +1

      @@TomiBostero12 No problem brother

    • @outrider425
      @outrider425 5 років тому +2

      you can’t get spotted if there is no one left to spot you

  • @edzzha9487
    @edzzha9487 7 років тому +81

    cpt. McMillan is just too old for this shit :D

  • @evanadhipramana6473
    @evanadhipramana6473 5 років тому +26

    8:52 The perfect strategy, run up to the guy with an RPD

  • @tobiaspramono378
    @tobiaspramono378 Рік тому +7

    Soldier : Uh, Mr. Zakhaev, i think you should delay dis convention, we lost contact to 2 of our outpost, 2 Convoys that is supposed to protect us, and 2 hinds sir
    Zakhaev : nahh, ur radio just faulty
    *Looses arm*

  • @thegrass7199
    @thegrass7199 5 років тому +82

    If i haven't seen this video i wouldn't know that there was a Stinger Missiles up in that sniper's apartment room.

    • @perhaps9460
      @perhaps9460 5 років тому +10

      I only knew cuz I tried to get every intel in the game years ago

    • @michalgryc2924
      @michalgryc2924 5 років тому

      @@perhaps9460 Did you succeed in your mission?

    • @perhaps9460
      @perhaps9460 5 років тому +1

      Michal Gryc yup. It wasn’t hard at all

    • @jagged7561
      @jagged7561 5 років тому

      @@perhaps9460 and what did you get?

    • @nickbatutay8325
      @nickbatutay8325 4 роки тому +1

      Church,actually.

  • @Cmnt_6661
    @Cmnt_6661 8 років тому +107

    i thought i was the only one who does this after all these times lollol

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  8 років тому +33

      +Clement Ching yeah, it's a classic level and it's fun to piss MacMillan off. Never cared for stealth missions anyhow

  • @TheFlamingPiano
    @TheFlamingPiano 6 років тому +85

    so macmillan's invincible in arcade mode? wow

  • @IWantBritneySpears
    @IWantBritneySpears 10 років тому +113

    08:47 - good going in finding a position where the heli can't shoot you.
    Awesome score mate. Well done! :)

  • @lentlemenproductions770
    @lentlemenproductions770 4 роки тому +17

    “Kill all enemies”
    *laughs in BMP crew”

  • @ferntheyoutuber9960
    @ferntheyoutuber9960 7 років тому +348

    Did you hear right after you killed the dogs around 10:35 a little girl says "help"?

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  7 років тому +175

      Ghosts of the past. 50,000 people used to live there. I have been playing around with the ReMastered version. If I get a decent run, will upload.

    • @ferntheyoutuber9960
      @ferntheyoutuber9960 7 років тому +11

      criminaltrap74
      Cool

    • @yashbhardwaj0596
      @yashbhardwaj0596 7 років тому +100

      How can russkie girl call in English when she's in Danger

    • @alexpatriot8768
      @alexpatriot8768 6 років тому +53

      Holy shit yeah I heard it

    • @TheRealRusDaddy
      @TheRealRusDaddy 6 років тому +44

      FernTheUA-camr aww shit dont mind that those are just the mutants

  • @bottomtextgaming1864
    @bottomtextgaming1864 5 років тому +31

    "Stealth is optional"

  • @buneter
    @buneter 3 роки тому +8

    It’s amazing level design to give you stingers, most people will never know they are there but they give you the option to win going loud

  • @usmantahir6434
    @usmantahir6434 4 роки тому +13

    When he reached the army and just crawled past it. I was like Yeah,you can't kill everyone even this guy understands. And then he proceeded to kill all of them. Nice.

  • @faceless58
    @faceless58 7 років тому +23

    I love that you got the timing for him to say "You here that? Coast is clear." I little personal favourite of mine from the many times i did this mission. never managed anything like this though

    • @bloodyhellghost
      @bloodyhellghost 7 років тому +1

      One of my fave parts of mission is when the music kicks back in @ 5:40 . I do not know if the PS4 version is patched. I would do a ps4 version but do not have the means to record it @ the moment

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  7 років тому +2

      Yeah, I have been keeping an eye out for the PS4 version

  • @pedrojuan8050
    @pedrojuan8050 5 років тому +9

    9:29
    Helicopter : *pew pew*
    Price : "Y o u d a r e t o o p p o s e m e m o r t a l?"

  • @AbyssalTitan
    @AbyssalTitan 5 років тому +15

    Captain MacMillan sound pissed off xD

  • @rcsiapno1
    @rcsiapno1 5 років тому +11

    Game: Stealth is recommended/optional in this mission.
    Me in Recruit to Hardened: Clean Sweep/Genocide (Loud) Objective Initiate

  • @aadilali5727
    @aadilali5727 6 років тому +27

    I dunno y but this video is so satisfying when u kill like 10 million people at the same time with the rpd in the second convey

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  6 років тому +4

      Indeed, it is satisfying . That heli about took me out though

    • @ShadowsCread
      @ShadowsCread 3 роки тому

      @@criminaltrap74 No. it was your own missile that hurted you

  • @ibrahimaldhubaiban7912
    @ibrahimaldhubaiban7912 4 роки тому +30

    6:44 I can't do this in Remastered

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  4 роки тому +8

      seems to be a softblock or something. also, the second chopper does nothing if stealth compromised

    • @MhxanobiosS
      @MhxanobiosS 3 роки тому +1

      You can get around from the side of the truck. Sometimes enemies spot me this way but the game just randomly despawns them in front of me, lol

  • @Akaash449
    @Akaash449 5 років тому +14

    You're a freak of nature man, amazing work.

  • @tsehoyin2
    @tsehoyin2 8 років тому +104

    You NEED to do this again on call of duty 4 remastered

    • @noelpepa_
      @noelpepa_ 4 роки тому +5

      Hoyin Tse much harder when YOUR ACTIONS GOT MACMILLAN KILLED

  • @PodBytes69
    @PodBytes69 5 років тому +12

    Nobody:
    Speedrunners: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang 7 років тому +5

    I like how everyone just starts shooting at Macmillan at 4:05 and he was like no fuck given

  • @HUW1097
    @HUW1097 4 роки тому +5

    I love how increasingly pissed off MacMillan gets 😂

  • @williampitt1537
    @williampitt1537 3 роки тому +5

    *Officer to Zachaev* : Sir, should we proceed with the deal? Reports say some hundred of our men have been killed and two attack helicopters shot down west of the city?
    *Zachaev* : 'Tis but an accident, surely!

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  3 роки тому

      If I had the patience and skill I would have went on to do One Shot One Kill but I would have died. People still give me grief over not taking out the half-tracks

    • @hellishcyberdemon7112
      @hellishcyberdemon7112 8 місяців тому

      ​@criminaltrap74 are you talking about the 8x8 trucks or the BMP-1s

    • @ahb18442
      @ahb18442 4 місяці тому

      ​@@criminaltrap74 The way I do it on Veteran is grab a G3 as my secondary weapon so I have twice the ammo on my sniper.
      Then at the ferris wheel, place 10 claymores all around the cars and area before you place MacMillan down at the back, then after he gives you his 10 claymores, place his down, and also put C4 all the way at the back where most of them spawn.
      I go prone in the middle ferris wheel cart on top of the seats so dogs can't get me, and quickly shoot anyone from left to right. When the helis arrive, shoot the guys rappelling down quickly, then activate the C4 to buy you time to shoot everyone from left to right.
      I tried this because I didn't like hiding behind the bumper cars on Veteran and only wanted to snipe.

  • @callmechayne5701
    @callmechayne5701 8 років тому +59

    You're going to have to do this again

  • @MobileGamingChronicles
    @MobileGamingChronicles 3 роки тому +3

    Years ago, I would attempt to kill as many of the dogs in this mission as I could after I killed the first one. I always assumed they infinitely spawned and respawned until you die or MacMillan dies, but now I know that's not the case.
    Amazing job with killing every enemy in this level on Veteran!

  • @julianramirez8593
    @julianramirez8593 5 років тому +9

    Multiple kills later "All right now your just showing off!" XD

  • @hames100
    @hames100 8 років тому +16

    now how in the FUCK, did your actions not get Captain MacMillan killed??

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  8 років тому +6

      +hames100 It's a glitch in the game. For example, Mac will die if you alert the convoy before checkpoints @ 3:49 and 8:04 . The wild dogs get Mac every time if you don't take them out

  • @tokumo2190
    @tokumo2190 5 років тому +7

    10:23 remember no German shepherd

  • @kiev1110
    @kiev1110 4 роки тому +3

    Lt.Price should already be a captain for killing a whole army

  • @shabinakysar6324
    @shabinakysar6324 4 роки тому +3

    I guess captain macmillan would've questioneed his leadership skills after this.

  • @chengzhou8711
    @chengzhou8711 5 років тому +16

    Alright now you’re just showing off

  • @katasape7756
    @katasape7756 5 років тому +5

    nobody :
    this guy : so anyway i started blasting

  • @AlphaJnx
    @AlphaJnx 5 років тому +6

    Use stealth to get pass
    Criminaltrap74:So anyways i started blasting

  • @afq4431
    @afq4431 2 роки тому +2

    All Ghillied Up: Genocide Run
    Unlocks few rare dialogues from macmilan

  • @psalmdelizo2320
    @psalmdelizo2320 3 роки тому +1

    YOUR CHILLING IN CHERNOBYL BUT THE GRASS STARTS SPEAKING SCOTTISH.

  • @Jack.K96
    @Jack.K96 6 років тому +21

    LOL 6:06 * falling of the chair * "wtf?"

  • @GemaPratamaAditya
    @GemaPratamaAditya 8 років тому +45

    i always thought that theres no way to get away after u alert the BMP part

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  8 років тому +7

      +Gema Pratama A you can continue the fight if you wait for checkpoints 3:49 and 8:04. I've destroyed the BMPs on Arcade and no points are awarded

    • @XiyuYang
      @XiyuYang 7 років тому +2

      criminaltrap74 What you can destroy the BMPs? How? With what?

    • @owensavoury4488
      @owensavoury4488 6 років тому +3

      if you look in the church im pretty sure there are rocket launchers

    • @NagglingAboutMeaninglessly
      @NagglingAboutMeaninglessly 6 років тому

      those are Stinger missiles in the church. They will not work on the BMPs, only on helis.

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 2 роки тому

      @@NagglingAboutMeaninglessly maybe RPG ?

  • @andyfriederichsen
    @andyfriederichsen 7 років тому +17

    I like to kill all the human enemies and leave the wild dog alone. In the last part of the mission there are four friendly dogs that can distract the enemies for you.

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  7 років тому +14

      You can't trust the wild dogs. Even MacMillan warns you of that!

    • @gamerfreak8096
      @gamerfreak8096 5 років тому +2

      @@criminaltrap74 no if you just leave them,they don't hurt you and Help you during the final times

    • @jeffreycurl4925
      @jeffreycurl4925 5 років тому

      Next mission part. Its after you enter the Hotel, almost assassinating Zakehev (?). Running past and or killing all the enemies, past the pool and into the small carnival-extraction site.

  • @LennyCole96
    @LennyCole96 Рік тому +1

    Zakhaev: "Is everything in place for the meeting?"
    *Two subordinates visibly sweating* "You tell him"

  • @rgb_82
    @rgb_82 3 роки тому +4

    The developers seem to have thought that some players will do it this way, they've placed stingers everywhere...

  • @FreshTillDeath56
    @FreshTillDeath56 5 років тому +4

    "What the bloody hell was that? You tryin' to get us killed?"

  • @SpitFiresMods
    @SpitFiresMods 5 років тому +5

    Huh, seems i'm not alone who doesn't like stealth missions.

  • @chrisknepp9456
    @chrisknepp9456 5 років тому +6

    Am I the only one reading the comments in a MacMillan accent? 😂😂

  • @VirtualStepdad
    @VirtualStepdad 2 роки тому +1

    My parents describing their walk to school when they were younger

  • @kadebass6187
    @kadebass6187 5 років тому +3

    No guards left to notice the bodies nor to do anything about the bodies

    • @sonicthehedge
      @sonicthehedge 5 років тому +3

      No one will notice if there is no one to notice

  • @fasuto8656
    @fasuto8656 5 років тому +5

    "Are you daft?"

  • @danielodonnell4009
    @danielodonnell4009 3 роки тому +1

    Everybody gangsta till grass starts speaking scottish

  • @SpitFiresMods
    @SpitFiresMods 5 років тому +2

    on 8:28 i just shoot a heli down, next took p90, jumped into the window and just stand infront of it. Dogs won't be able to jump into the room, so, now all you have to do is keep waiting for solders comming up for you.

    • @outsider9262
      @outsider9262 5 років тому +1

      Wait, the dog did came into the room when I did this

  • @MobileGamingChronicles
    @MobileGamingChronicles 3 роки тому +1

    MacMillan: Stealth mission.
    Price: Kill everyone.

  • @koenthemoon4482
    @koenthemoon4482 8 років тому +64

    Savage!!
    Do you think this wil work in mw remastered?

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  8 років тому +16

      I can't afford a PS4. Try it and let me know. On this version, you can't alert the convoy until after checkpoint @ 3:46 or else Mac will die. . If they didn't patch it then it should work.

    • @koenthemoon4482
      @koenthemoon4482 8 років тому

      criminaltrap74 okey, I wil try it when I have time

    • @koenthemoon4482
      @koenthemoon4482 8 років тому +3

      criminaltrap74 It worked!!
      Thnx voor the tips!
      I became nummer 5 on the leaderboard with my score.

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  8 років тому +8

      you can get a million plus points by dying over and over after taking out 2nd convoy and helicopter and then finishing the mission w/ your last extra life. user IWantBritneySpears has a vid of this on his channel

    • @koenthemoon4482
      @koenthemoon4482 8 років тому +1

      criminaltrap74 wow... thnx, I'll try it

  • @thecritic3959
    @thecritic3959 5 років тому +2

    All these stinger missiles laying around, would be a shame to take out every helicopter nearby.

  • @Chesozz
    @Chesozz 2 роки тому +2

    Price is such a badass that i like to believe this is canon

  • @eternaldarksun
    @eternaldarksun 3 роки тому +2

    How to abuse Capt Macmillan in 12 minutes

  • @kkddjj1994
    @kkddjj1994 Рік тому +1

    When Call of Duty becomes Battlefield.

  • @methyleneblue8492
    @methyleneblue8492 5 років тому +3

    Price is def not becoming a captain after this

    • @deeznutzlol448
      @deeznutzlol448 5 років тому +3

      You're right. He gets knighted by the fucking queen herself.

  • @ZadXander
    @ZadXander 5 років тому +2

    I remember playing this on my box TV, good times

  • @quirockslokz8258
    @quirockslokz8258 5 років тому +5

    I didn't know you could use John Wick character on call of duty

  • @dirtyxsizzurp248
    @dirtyxsizzurp248 Рік тому +1

    I remember when I was younger there was a “cheat” that multiplied your grenades when thrown in the menu and I wud always try to take out the army with the tanks but always fail :( good times

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  Рік тому +2

      I like the unlimited grenade cheat too. Throw enough and you can take out a tank

  • @SPQR012
    @SPQR012 Рік тому +3

    007 in Pripyat?

  • @BikerDash
    @BikerDash 5 років тому +1

    That was totally sick...
    FUCKIN LOVE IT!
    Only thing missing is John Wick as the final boss after killing all those dogs lol

  • @DedMaster373
    @DedMaster373 5 років тому +7

    Call Of Duty: Touhou Edition

  • @brothaxgenie
    @brothaxgenie 2 роки тому +1

    2:18 kinda makes sense why he would say that with the crazy shit that's been done so far

  • @buddyspecialops
    @buddyspecialops 2 роки тому +6

    Alternative title: Ukrainian soldier POV

  • @anthonywhite7566
    @anthonywhite7566 6 років тому +2

    You are amazing, i'm glad i have a chance to see it because that was awesome.

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  6 років тому

      Thanks for watching. I just copied tactics I seen on IDon'tWantBritneySpears channel

  • @thetransporter7344
    @thetransporter7344 5 років тому +2

    captain price is a beast

  • @BaseplateSRB
    @BaseplateSRB 6 років тому +4

    Absolute madman

  • @edgemaxxer1573
    @edgemaxxer1573 4 роки тому +2

    5:58 pov: you're macmillan

  • @chippy2551
    @chippy2551 25 днів тому

    this video randomly popped up in my suggested videos to watch. man i miss this game.

  • @DivineRight454
    @DivineRight454 3 роки тому +2

    Peace was never an option

  • @HaggiyoPilipinas
    @HaggiyoPilipinas 3 роки тому +2

    This is so fucking satisfying

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  3 роки тому

      lol not a fan of stealth missions myself. Ghillied is great because you can bugger everything up and still complete the mission.

  • @code4196
    @code4196 2 роки тому

    Macmillan's patience is beyond our understanding

  • @MixSonaProductions
    @MixSonaProductions 5 років тому +2

    Hell of a Price to pay

  • @AemondOneEye
    @AemondOneEye Рік тому

    3:33 If you wait a little and alert the soldiers around the pond, the ones you pass through on the hill will come back. So it's actually possible to kill everyone without alerting the BMPs

  • @mikeggg1979
    @mikeggg1979 5 років тому +17

    All these years later I had no clue COD had all these crazy boards. How the hell do you get these?

  • @mr.mysterious3349
    @mr.mysterious3349 5 років тому +1

    I think they should change the mission title by One Man,One Army

  • @sairarafique3339
    @sairarafique3339 3 роки тому +1

    You are proooooo op

  • @diavolo4982
    @diavolo4982 6 років тому +4

    cool shots bro

    • @criminaltrap74
      @criminaltrap74  6 років тому

      Thanks. Still one of my fave games/missions

  • @EyeOfJanuary
    @EyeOfJanuary 5 років тому +2

    1:17 Max ACT sound? Dmc fans anywhere?

  • @rajanaggarwal3371
    @rajanaggarwal3371 2 роки тому

    To this day, after trying so many times i still fail to kill the entire convention. This guy is at another level

    • @flaply7691
      @flaply7691 Рік тому

      Same here, I need to try what this guy did

    • @rajanaggarwal3371
      @rajanaggarwal3371 Рік тому

      @@flaply7691 I gave this an attempt and after taking out the sniper after the convention you should use the stinger to destroy the heli. Then you can kill the convention easily