Usury - Mathmatical Fraud Explained

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
  • Practice of Usury is a confiscation racket. It's a game of musical chairs, all borrows can not pay back their loan because the money does not exist.
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  • @heristyono4755
    @heristyono4755 6 років тому +421

    The guy in black suit explains why usury is a scam.
    The guy in red shirt explains why the scam still exists.

    • @osburrob000
      @osburrob000 6 років тому +13

      HAHAAHA

    • @trutharmy6517
      @trutharmy6517 6 років тому +24

      heri styono the red guy is the perfect example of a high quality brain dead corporate slave

    • @SgtSteel1
      @SgtSteel1 6 років тому +30

      +Heri Styono Yes, and what is the only religion that permits usury but doesn't do it to it's own people? Ever heard of the Talmud?

    • @heristyono4755
      @heristyono4755 6 років тому +3

      +Sgt Steel It's a satanic book.

    • @heristyono4755
      @heristyono4755 6 років тому +7

      +Truth Army years of brainwashing by the education system.

  • @rodneyjohnson7327
    @rodneyjohnson7327 6 років тому +223

    He must have said "right" or "I understand" a dozen times. Yet he never got it.

    • @jogarvizah2731
      @jogarvizah2731 6 років тому +3

      🤣

    • @skibumwannabe5492
      @skibumwannabe5492 6 років тому +2

      @Duane wtf are you as thick as the bloke in the red shirt

    • @____-pn8yb
      @____-pn8yb 5 років тому +3

      Duane,
      If you aren't being paid to shill for the bankers, why do you believe this lie?

    • @parpaddy7827
      @parpaddy7827 5 років тому +3

      @Duane There's a limited supply of money. Money isn't an absolute, it wasn't created by God, it's a man made system 10:05

    • @____-pn8yb
      @____-pn8yb 5 років тому

      @Duane Oh no, the F word, that means you won the argument?
      You are sadly ignorant of how money comes into being. I can see you don't have the slightest desire to learn what they have said in this video.
      But, it is true, the Federal Reserve creates money from nothing when it creates loans to governments and other banks. This money must be repaid at interest which is never created.
      Usury causes the need for someone to forfeit on their loans, no matter how hard one works.
      You incapability to understand this is probably very frightening to you on a subconscious level, so that everything I say to you is ridiculous, as psychological defense mechanism, hence you're projecting onto me that my understanding is not shared widely by millions, as such a consensus evident to you would break your defenses.

  • @KHANIMATION
    @KHANIMATION 8 років тому +185

    Red shirt must have thought he was prank-interviewing some oddly dressed hipster. Red shirt got schooled.

    • @essadawood3925
      @essadawood3925 6 років тому +4

      Red shirt took a while before he got the jist

    • @Porkeater2610957
      @Porkeater2610957 6 років тому +25

      He can't think in terms of a collective(society, people, tribe, nation), he's a prime example of Jewish brainwashing and rabid individualism(hedonism).

    • @blondemommyvomit
      @blondemommyvomit 6 років тому +3

      @@Porkeater2610957
      Precisely

    • @tonysilva2060
      @tonysilva2060 6 років тому

      @@phlebdouglas please look at the new post on this video you're the guy in the suit was not able to explain himself correctly

    • @tonysilva2060
      @tonysilva2060 6 років тому

      @Revisionism TV yes that's why the founding fathers said that coins could only be minted in silver so this way the bankers wouldn't cause the people to be left without house and home, because you cannot print more money than you have and gold and silver to represent those notes, scam happens when they remove gold from the money supply and the silver from the coinage this allowed them to print massive amounts of money lend it out, and caused a whole bunch of inflation, if you ask the central bank they will tell you that inflation is 2% per year that's very convenient they're not adding the cost of living when you had the cost of living it's like 5 to 10% the year, but the bank still don't want you to know that that effect of all that money printing causes, it reduces the value of the dollars in your pocket year-over-year, essentially destroying the purchasing power of your labor, it's the hidden tax on the human spirit hundreds of years the inflation tax, but nobody calls it that and that's the reason why purchasing power in the past 40 years, no currency that isn't backed by gold and silver lasts more than 50 years they all go to their intrinsic final value of 0 eventually. Please refer to hyperinflation Zimbabwe, hyperinflation Weimar Republic Germany. It was for good reason that the constitution says that it is a crime to mint coins and anything but silver, and we're finding out why, the hard way. Well I hope somebody learned something here

  • @nizamuddina
    @nizamuddina 6 років тому +22

    The teacher is a patient guy, and very knowledgable

  • @bandogbone3265
    @bandogbone3265 5 років тому +83

    "Usury" used to be defined as "lending money at interest." In current and online dictionaries, it has now been redefined as "lending money at excessive interest." It would be interesting to track down who was responsible for the change.

    • @nathantorresstanevil6958
      @nathantorresstanevil6958 2 роки тому +34

      We all know the answer. It's in the bible and anyone who knows about German economy after ww1...✡️

    • @Mmoselle1983
      @Mmoselle1983 Рік тому

      Probably a Jew

    • @jonasscheuer7639
      @jonasscheuer7639 Рік тому

      @@nathantorresstanevil6958 WOAAH my guy
      you really think religions matter in such issues ? XDD
      When contemplating is neccessary, you look for an easy answer?

    • @jonasscheuer7639
      @jonasscheuer7639 Рік тому

      @@nathantorresstanevil6958 antisemite ufo guy xD

    • @nathantorresstanevil6958
      @nathantorresstanevil6958 Рік тому

      @Jonas Scheuer of course they matter. The Talmud literally says we are cattle. "Abodah Zara 29B - Even the best of the Goyim should be killed"
      "Sanhedrin 59a - Murdering goyim is like killing a wild animal"

  • @Maximilian0011
    @Maximilian0011 9 років тому +139

    Please do not laugh at the red shirt guy, he is slow cuz we all been made to be slow, about the money thing we dont get learn at any school we go to as childen

    • @MichaelAllen-po4eo
      @MichaelAllen-po4eo 8 років тому +1

      english lesson here for you: you mean "we don't get taught," not "we don't get learn."

    • @virvisquevir3320
      @virvisquevir3320 6 років тому +14

      Michael Allen - Or he forgot to put the word "to" in front of the word "learn". Anyway, good point. This most vital aspect of our lives, about our economy, about our nation as a whole and our foreign policy - wars to impose privately-held central banks, prop up the Petrodollar and the racist regime of Israel, wars that kill and maim our young soldiers and millions of innocent civilians abroad - is conveniently not taught at school.

    • @ebmaerz7155
      @ebmaerz7155 6 років тому +4

      Maximilian0011 - That too is on purpose viz. keeping the masses ignorant about what really matters. That's what the current school system is pretty much all about i.e. creating useful idiots ... very different from real 'education'

    • @DAN_ZEMAN
      @DAN_ZEMAN 6 років тому +6

      Maximilian0011
      Well said. He’s trying to understand. It shows how alien the concept is to people when coming from someone who has watched a few key documentaries or read the right books.
      I always start by asking people to look at a banknote (British) and ask them ‘what is this’.... they say money, obviously..
      Then I read the ‘small print’:
      ‘I promise to pay the bearer upon demand the sum of Ten pounds’ (for example)..
      So I ask:
      And if the Bank of England is going to give you ‘ten pounds’ in exchange for this piece of paper, what then is the ten pounds they will give you?
      THIS IS USUALLY ENOUGH TO MAKE THE SHEKEL DROP.... but if not, i ask:
      So if they are going to give you this other thing that is the real ‘ten pounds’, I ask you again: what is this piece of paper in your hands, that we work, bleed, fight and die for?.....
      And if that’s not enough: fuck em!

    • @DarthVader1977
      @DarthVader1977 6 років тому

      because*

  • @sandrashane677
    @sandrashane677 Рік тому +14

    If there are a million gold bars in existence and they are loaned out at 10% interest it is physically impossible to pay back 1 million + 100,000 gold bars. That's usury.

    • @nitsudocsicnarf347
      @nitsudocsicnarf347 Рік тому +1

      More mining is required to create more gold into the supply. 😉

    • @sandrashane677
      @sandrashane677 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@nitsudocsicnarf347I hope you're being sarcastic and didnt miss the point entirely.

    • @mvmlego1212
      @mvmlego1212 15 днів тому

      That kind of debt _can_ be repaid. For example, the debtors could repay 550,000 gold bars (GB), then sell goods or services to the creditor for 100,000 GB, then repay the remaining 550,000 GB.

  • @DAVIDE-bk8by
    @DAVIDE-bk8by 6 років тому +38

    Can't believe the guy in the red t-shirt isn't​ getting it. The guy explaining usuary is very patient

    • @mfspectacular
      @mfspectacular Рік тому +5

      It isnt hard to believe when you take a step back & realize how far into history (& further back still) this con goes, how many generations of folk were brought up to believe the lie

    • @uncertaintytoworldpeace3650
      @uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 Рік тому

      You’ve never heard of cognitive dissonance? Of course one would first thinking about how loans work from the consumer perspective. Free money!!!

  • @Afalaa
    @Afalaa 6 років тому +24

    As a Muslim, I ask my Christian freinds to abandon Usury. This guy knows what he is talking about. I wish he had his own UA-cam channel so he can educate my fellow Christians.

    • @petejones6827
      @petejones6827 3 місяці тому

      usury is against Christianity Jesus said it himself. tbh no one knows what usury is thats the issue.

  • @jhenningkelloggia
    @jhenningkelloggia 10 років тому +73

    Deuteronomy 23:19
    Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury
    Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

    • @Mmoselle1983
      @Mmoselle1983 8 років тому +5

      +Mel Gibstein preach it. Because Christians sure dont. thank you for that.

    • @mosesbullrush8051
      @mosesbullrush8051 7 років тому +15

      The Torah is the proof that there never were any good Jews/Hebrews. Jews today are doing exactly what Jews have always done.

    • @MegaMindLutonUK
      @MegaMindLutonUK 6 років тому +4

      Previous scriptures have been corrupted, consult last revelation The Qur'an for the truth that was revealed before and perfect your life according to your creator.
      In the age of mass communications Only GOD the creator can lead you to straight path.

    • @osburrob000
      @osburrob000 6 років тому

      so its ok to fuck over a stranger? I think one Assyrian to many was treated in this way and had enough....time for somebody to go on a trip to Babylon...

    • @jg3000
      @jg3000 6 років тому +1

      So, do it to non christians. I say don't do it at all.

  • @AndreMonthy
    @AndreMonthy Рік тому +12

    Dude in the red shirt is a good example of the dunning kruger effect.

    • @lol-ld3jh
      @lol-ld3jh 7 днів тому

      Exactly, good vocabulary word sir

  • @chrisanthemum7
    @chrisanthemum7 5 років тому +42

    I totally identify with the red shirt guy. The red shirt guy is struggling b/c he can't conceive of how open and pervasive the lie is, and how well it's disguised as a good, normal thing.

  • @nick281972
    @nick281972 8 років тому +56

    Never smoke weed before interviewing someone smart.

  • @satori0425
    @satori0425 6 років тому +137

    the guy in the red shirt represents the confused American people...

    • @youngsamuel1
      @youngsamuel1 6 років тому +2

      Confused or stupid?

    • @abbigail3923
      @abbigail3923 6 років тому

      @@youngsamuel1 ~ Many People in this World are Just learners as Myselve.
      Most people just want to live. Raise there kids, Take care of there family.
      Stupid & or confused does not fit that categorie.
      Best of Wishes to You.🌹

    • @dylanc760
      @dylanc760 6 років тому

      moetif moe No, we get it. It’s just a very silly hypothetical.

    • @oathofhoratii1122
      @oathofhoratii1122 5 років тому

      It's an American that's explaining to him what usury is, stupid

    • @Mmoselle1983
      @Mmoselle1983 Рік тому

      No, it represents most of the world. Nice try though.

  • @truthunveiled3886
    @truthunveiled3886 6 років тому +49

    An excellent explanation of a truth which everybody should know.

  • @WHF1978
    @WHF1978 6 років тому +150

    Dude in the red shirt represents America, which reminds me of mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed shit.

    • @youngsamuel1
      @youngsamuel1 6 років тому +6

      good one. Idk whether to laugh or cry

    • @discipleofhermes563
      @discipleofhermes563 6 років тому +8

      But both guys are Americans, analogy seems redundant

    • @BertleMcGertle
      @BertleMcGertle 6 років тому +3

      @@discipleofhermes563 the guy in the red represents the majority

    • @unclejesse2506
      @unclejesse2506 6 років тому +1

      @@BertleMcGertle and hes supposedly a business owner omg hes in trouble lol

    • @BertleMcGertle
      @BertleMcGertle 6 років тому +8

      @@unclejesse2506 poor guy seems genuine. I don't think he's a fool I just think he's been fooled and he's trying to grasp the other man's point without the idea that's he's been fooled. Convincing someone that they've been fooled is a hard thing to do. American students are conditioned to be overly confident not open minded. Hence why this man is under the impression that he can achieve through the system but can't comprehend how his achievements means someone else fails. Throughout the school system we're only told we can do anything if we put our minds to it but we're never told that it only applies to some.

  • @deniseward002
    @deniseward002 8 років тому +26

    What the guy with the hat should say is to talk about the money pool (or the money supply). This is the entire supply of money in the aggregate. Of course some people will have money, most people will but there will always be a few who are stuck in the shortfall (they are the ones that default on loans). That's why the 1% and the 99%. The scam is going exponential. Money is a difficult thing to understand, ironically even though we use it all the time and base almost everything in our lives on it. Then there's the scam of "working for a living". Scams, scams, everywhere a scam. Mathematical victims, a game of musical chairs, nice terms, very illustrative. Kudos to Wayne Walters for teaching people so patiently.

  • @IMIaTix
    @IMIaTix 9 років тому +126

    Jewsury.

    • @Mmoselle1983
      @Mmoselle1983 8 років тому +16

      lol. love it. and it's the truth

    • @watermelonman7627
      @watermelonman7627 6 років тому +5

      Oy vey!

    • @thisguy5686
      @thisguy5686 4 роки тому +1

      @xaviesta John barnes finally , someone gets it.

    • @wayando
      @wayando 4 місяці тому

      😂😂😂 ... Are you "allowed" to say that?!

    • @AlfrederickSanayan
      @AlfrederickSanayan 4 місяці тому +1

      Oy vey shut it down

  • @AJRWilde
    @AJRWilde 6 років тому +40

    I can't watch its so painful!

    • @trutharmy6517
      @trutharmy6517 6 років тому +6

      A. J. R. Wilde it's like watching a grown man talking to a wall

  • @cobrar5161
    @cobrar5161 6 років тому +16

    This guy is right my dad took a 50,000 rupees loan years ago from a bank and he had to pay 150000 to the bank which took years to be paid and that was a hard time for us.

  • @MrTrenttness
    @MrTrenttness 5 років тому +11

    This man in black has travelled through time to warn us of usury!

  • @essadawood3925
    @essadawood3925 6 років тому +30

    The prohibition of usury in Islam is more serious than all the tenets in respect of secular/social and divine obligations .....and the warnings regarding the failure to abide are dire ....as revealed in so many verses of the Holy Quran

    • @DagobertDrug
      @DagobertDrug 6 років тому +3

      @@acccs659 they changed the words, they can't change the law and their judgment on the final day.

    • @DagobertDrug
      @DagobertDrug 6 років тому +5

      Of course not, it takes common sense, morality, reason or logos if you like to call it that. But commons sense, morality and reason also lead to Islam, i.e. the willingly submission to the will of the one God. So, as a matter of fact, you have to get used to the fact that muslims will be a major part of this. And no need to point out that there are compromised entities calling themselves muslims or islamic. That is true for every movement, religion, etc.

    • @essadawood3925
      @essadawood3925 6 років тому +2

      @@JifftasticGhozt perhaps you right ...... But then neither does Islam need us to spread the word of unparalled moral propriety entrenched in it's precepts .....we need Islam ...and a righteous Muslim wont confront the matter without using Quranic verses on usury and the harms thereof...

    • @existextinct
      @existextinct 6 років тому +1

      Islam is the worst example for anything moral in this world. The koran is cancer

    • @essadawood3925
      @essadawood3925 6 років тому +6

      @@existextinct .......thanks for your input .... clearly you the best example of an out of sync moron

  • @jimvortex
    @jimvortex 10 років тому +93

    the dude in the red is missing the point

    • @Tappettava
      @Tappettava 6 років тому +6

      +jimvortex He's got the typical American style of listening in from one ear out from the other while repeating "OK, I got you, right, yeah" in order to hurry up the other person so you can give them another question they just answered, but you didn't listen.

    • @frankopanklaric
      @frankopanklaric 6 років тому +1

      He gets there eventually.

    • @jasonmathis825
      @jasonmathis825 6 років тому +1

      His lips, eyes, and nose are that of a certain infamous caricature

    • @gildedpeahen876
      @gildedpeahen876 6 років тому +2

      and he he keeps glancing at the camera like He's winning.

    • @gildedpeahen876
      @gildedpeahen876 6 років тому +1

      @@Tappettava exactly. he kept saying "yep yep yep" just to interrupted him and ask something he essentially *just* answered

  • @charleyhoward4594
    @charleyhoward4594 6 років тому +8

    Usury (/ˈjuːʒəri/)[1][2] is, as defined today, the practice of making unethical or immoral monetary loans that unfairly enrich the lender. Originally, usury meant interest of any kind. A loan may be considered usurious because of excessive or abusive interest rates or other factors. Historically, in some Christian societies, and in many Islamic societies even today, charging any interest at all would be considered usury. Someone who practices usury can be called a usurer, but a more common term in contemporary English is loan shark.

  • @bammbamm12
    @bammbamm12 5 років тому +16

    Moustache man did not explain in his hypothetical that there was only 1 mil in the economy, and if you sell something, the money you get is part of that million. I.e., the only money you can "make" has to come from the other 9 people - because there's only 10 people in the entire economy with 100k each. That's the "universe" of money in this example. - 1 mil.

    • @scientiest12
      @scientiest12 5 днів тому

      he didn't explicitly state it, but he did imply it throughout the video

  • @suicidaleuphoria7012
    @suicidaleuphoria7012 2 роки тому +3

    The guy in the black suit doesn’t realize that he is talking to one of the thieves.

  • @RASHAD_KHALIFA
    @RASHAD_KHALIFA 7 років тому +23

    4:161 And for practicing usury, which was forbidden, and for consuming the people's money illicitly. We have prepared for the disbelievers among them painful retribution.
    Thanks for good, helpful and explaining video =)

  • @se7ensnakes
    @se7ensnakes 9 років тому +22

    25 " If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him; you shall not charge him interest.
    26 "If you ever take your neighbor's garment as a pledge, you shall return it to him before the sun goes down.
    27 "For that is his only covering, it is his garment for his skin. What will he sleep in? And it will be that when he cries to Me, I will hear, for I am gracious. (Exodus 22:25-27)

  • @bradbbs7738
    @bradbbs7738 9 років тому +33

    Ahahaha this is fucking painful to watch. Red shirt is a bit slow.

    • @twinfam5094
      @twinfam5094 9 років тому +8

      +bradbbs he represents the knowledge of the average american.

    • @uncleball78
      @uncleball78 8 років тому +5

      +bradbbs
      But what if I found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?
      What if the tooth-fairy left me a dollar to pay back that dollar I borrowed?
      Okay, I see what you are saying but, what if I win the lottery?
      Top hat has a lot of self control trying to explain math to Mr. Red shirt. I would have flipped out after 3 minutes.

    • @catra195
      @catra195 8 років тому +1

      +uncleball78 hahaha true

    • @ruinner
      @ruinner 7 років тому +3

      red shirt is the reason why the world is what it is

    • @daveroy1066
      @daveroy1066 7 років тому +1

      This was painful to watch and all to easy to have contempt for red shirt so I can understand your statement as a lashing out but....if you stand behind your statement after some time to calm down I would say you are in worse shape than him. He may not have much to work with up stairs but he at least works what he has. He is an example of the effectiveness of the weapons used against man as we are maneuvered into a position of checkmate. Evil people made this world what it is and there not even done yet.

  • @dopamine1143
    @dopamine1143 4 роки тому +21

    Wow. He explained it in a very simple way

  • @MS-in3sl
    @MS-in3sl 6 років тому +15

    Shylock: a character drawn from real life.

    • @trutharmy6517
      @trutharmy6517 6 років тому +2

      M Golfinho UA-cam IS GOING TO BAN YOU FOR THAT PROFILR PICTURE 😂😂😂

  • @RubinaMerchant
    @RubinaMerchant 6 років тому +11

    I admire his patience when explaining! :)

  • @5O4evr
    @5O4evr 8 років тому +24

    this is better than "who's on first?" by abbot and costello... this is literally destroying our world.

  • @GrooveDoctor77Musician
    @GrooveDoctor77Musician 8 років тому +59

    Id sure like to hear the economist guy a little more,..

    • @X152535
      @X152535 6 років тому +8

      He did a good job but he was finding it hard to get to the core of the issue with interest. Just search youtube for Riba in Islam. Majority of the videos explain interest based loans and interest based economies in great detail with examples about how this destroys an individual and how it destroys a society. Its all designed to keep the rich, rich and the poor, poor.

  • @omp365
    @omp365 5 років тому +12

    the level to which this geezer doesn't get it is fascinating, he is so lost that by the end you can see the other getting confused by him. lmao.

  • @MultiBrad777
    @MultiBrad777 6 років тому +20

    Dude didn't listen to one word thee mathematician was saying!!

  • @miriamllamas224
    @miriamllamas224 6 років тому +10

    8 min in and the guy in red t-shirt still doesn't get it. 😂😂

  • @havenbastion
    @havenbastion 2 роки тому +3

    To put it another way, there's only a million dollars actual value there. The person collecting the interest collects a tenth of the value. Everyone else has nominally 1,000,000 but after accounting for interest it's only worth 900,000. This is also called inflation or rent-seeking.
    Ostensibly they're getting paid for the risk to their money, but they only make money if the reward is greater than the risk, and over time the accumulation of capital and the capture of government reduces risk to a minimum and profit to a maximum. They're increasingly taking more value for themselves while always providing less for the profit they get.
    Another dude of the coin is; when a billionaire lights his cigar with a $100 bill, the value of all other currency goes up by a relative amount.

  • @mikeystir3333
    @mikeystir3333 6 місяців тому +3

    i see why they think we are stupid

  • @sociallysavage1126
    @sociallysavage1126 6 років тому +5

    “You make totally sense” lmfao

  • @2hipp2x24
    @2hipp2x24 3 роки тому +9

    This man has patience

  • @mrzz-hf7tt
    @mrzz-hf7tt 2 роки тому +4

    i love that black shirt guys, we must end this crazy debt ,imposible to pay loan for all people

  • @johncrab67
    @johncrab67 6 років тому +13

    No matter how hard the quote "Good Banker Guy" tries to explain usury this guy, the one with the red shit just isn't getting it. I laughed so hard and I feel sad about it. But, I can't stop laughing. Even when the good banker guy breaks it down to musical chairs the guy just isn't getting it. So funny and so sad.

  • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
    @mohabatkhanmalak1161 6 років тому +6

    This is one of the best explanations about interest, the way it is impractical in an economy. It is like the conservation of energy theory and closed systems in physics. This is why countries go through inflation and recession and people suffer its consequences.
    In Islam, usury is prohibited and at a very high level and there are no two ways about it.

  • @sashas3362
    @sashas3362 5 років тому +3

    Money recirculates so the same person spends the same dollar twice or more to pay the same debt. That's how you pay off the amount which exceeds the total amount of money which exists.

  • @Shawn-wy1pb
    @Shawn-wy1pb 6 років тому +5

    Actually this is a much bigger problem than the example given in this video because of something called FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING.
    Banks can loan out 10 times more money than they take in meaning if they take in for example 100k they can then lend out 1 million which means they have created 900k out of thin air, the money that can never be paid back.

  • @jasonshoumar3755
    @jasonshoumar3755 8 років тому +68

    AAARRGH !!! The guy in the red shirt !! This is so frustrating to watch !

    • @dontworryaboutit4079
      @dontworryaboutit4079 6 років тому +3

      Jason Shoumar red shirt needs go back to Jew school

    • @tanzeel6387
      @tanzeel6387 6 років тому

      I died inside out watching this.

    • @zaidsiddiqui7481
      @zaidsiddiqui7481 6 років тому

      Jason Shoumar he gets it in the end

    • @tanzeel6387
      @tanzeel6387 6 років тому +1

      @@dmitrikaramazov4982 what a name, I see you are a man of taste (kind of irrelevant I know). I like the book too much.

    • @dmitrikaramazov4982
      @dmitrikaramazov4982 6 років тому +1

      Totus Bee
      Thank you. I saw so much of my younger self in Dmitri when I first read it a couple years ago that it was the obvious choice for the account when I got locked out of my old one.
      Draws the odd 'Russian Hacker' jibe too, which is always amusing.

  • @shaheenmatthews1646
    @shaheenmatthews1646 6 років тому +11

    why didnt you tell him that he should imagine there is only 1 million dollars in circulation in the world, but the person who printed the money wants 1.1 million back. Then ask him how is the .1 going to be paid back if there is only 1 million dollars in the world.

    • @klaaskay2685
      @klaaskay2685 5 років тому +1

      Such a nice summary making my understandings which I was unsure of clearer. I have to admit that I find it hard to understand the conversation completely due to English is not my first language. Luckily, I still find the one with the hat is easier to understand than the one with red shirt.

  • @Mmoselle1983
    @Mmoselle1983 8 років тому +5

    I'm thankful by the way, that the world still permits men like this to educate others. Brilliant. Learned all of this my junior year of high school while doing sidewalk for an economics professor during the summer.

  • @SomeEffort
    @SomeEffort 6 років тому +45

    (1) Those who consume interest cannot stand [on the Day of Resurrection] except as one stands who is being beaten by Satan into insanity. That is because they say, "Trade is [just] like interest." But Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest. So whoever has received an admonition from his Lord and desists may have what is past, and his affair rests with Allah . But whoever returns to [dealing in interest or usury] - those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein. (Quran, Al-Baqarah, 2: 275)
    (2) Allah does not bless usury, and He causes charitable deeds to prosper, and Allah does not love any ungrateful sinner. (Quran, Al-Baqarah, 2: 276)
    (3) O you who believe! Be careful of (your duty to) Allah and relinquish what remains (due) from usury, if you are believers. (Quran, Al-Baqarah, 2: 278)
    (4) O you who believe! do not devour usury, making it double and redouble, and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, that you may be successful. (Quran, Ali-Imran, 3: 130)
    (5) And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among
    them a painful chastisement. (Quran, An-Nisa, 4: 161)
    (6) And whatever you lay out as usury, so that it may increase in the property of men, it shall not increase with Allah; and whatever you give in charity, desiring Allah's
    pleasure-- it is these (persons) that shall get manifold. (Quran, Ar-Rom, 30: 39)

  • @clipdump
    @clipdump Рік тому +4

    The guy is struggling to separate the concept of money and value. Wait till he finds out they just print the stuff.

  • @Bryan-cs9to
    @Bryan-cs9to 8 років тому +7

    good to see some people still speak and spread truth well done good sir thank you

  • @thomasworthy2876
    @thomasworthy2876 7 років тому +3

    The other key bit... all borrowers offered collateral for the loan. So, 1 in 10 guaranteed to fail = 1 in 10 guaranteed to forfeit collateral to the lender. Guaranteed.

  • @keithstewart934
    @keithstewart934 6 років тому +1

    We don't have money, we have currency. Honest money has intrinsic value and is a store of value. The ingenuity and labor of people create wealth, real value, we don't live in a static market.

  • @jsamc8420
    @jsamc8420 8 років тому +11

    Damn i feel like a sheep ....... BAAAAAAAAAAH !!

  • @thatstheguy07
    @thatstheguy07 6 років тому +2

    “Right....right....right.... wait, what?”

  • @QF756
    @QF756 5 років тому +3

    God, bless this man in suit, he is such a gentle man, also the man in red suit who finally can grab the essence of the issue explained by the gentleman.

  • @chuy8356
    @chuy8356 5 років тому +2

    He could've just explained it faster by saying "The Jews in the banks only print out enough currency , but not to cover the interest they charge"

  • @jessicacardalico65
    @jessicacardalico65 Рік тому +3

    This dude has some patience!!

  • @cpklapper
    @cpklapper 3 місяці тому +1

    Usury is a practice where loans are USED to artificially increase the price of the goods whose purchase is financed by the amount lent. Money is created for those purchases in much the same way that fiscal fiat money, but it is DIRECTED toward the purchase, and thus the prices, of the goods financed by the loans; Usury creates debt fiat money. The democratic mercantilist propaganda which rails against fiscal fiat money is suspiciously silent when it comes to debt fiat money; their alliance with the mercantilist money-lending, retail, and realty democracies is palpable and undeniable.

  • @stacknsat
    @stacknsat 5 років тому +4

    "Ive got you!" "You make totally sense" 9:08 AFTER guy in black hat told him FIFTY TIMES. Red shirt guy proceeds to ask him for the 6th time "how did you figure this out"

  • @silvercloud1276
    @silvercloud1276 6 років тому +2

    (MUSICAL CHAIRS) is a very simple and clear explanation to help people understand!!

  • @bajansixfooter
    @bajansixfooter 8 років тому +27

    Honestly, this guy in the red shirt has a severe deficiency! But it does seem like he represents that average understanding of what money is. Too bad.

  • @jasong5913
    @jasong5913 6 років тому +1

    'Give unto God what is God's, give unto Caeser what is Caeser's." It's been told 2000 years ago.

  • @MS-in3sl
    @MS-in3sl 6 років тому +6

    for best analysis of usury, see writing by economist Michael Hudson. many articles, and books, such as: Labor in the Ancient World.

  • @Fitandover40
    @Fitandover40 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing how the young man cannot even conceive what the other is saying, he literally does not have the words nor the concepts to understand. The ideas the guy with the hat is trying to convey are absolutely ALIEN to him. The power of belif and indoctrination.

  • @mousehead2000
    @mousehead2000 7 років тому +5

    Fuck me that was painful.

  • @onefodderunit
    @onefodderunit 6 років тому +1

    "Right. Right. Right." That guy needed a Mr T explanation.

  • @unknownperson3649
    @unknownperson3649 7 місяців тому +3

    Who is this cat? He explained what I couldn’t understand in the book the creature from Jekyll island.

  • @markboombox4272
    @markboombox4272 6 років тому

    What is so hard to understand? If you are successful, that money you earned existed already, you're taking it from other people, it doesn't change anything.

  • @matthew1337
    @matthew1337 Рік тому +4

    What is the guy in the black suit's name?

  • @mvmlego1212
    @mvmlego1212 17 днів тому +1

    There _is_ a family of valid solutions to the scenario that the man in black poses. For example, each debtor pays the bank half of what they owe ($55,000), sells goods or services to the bank equal to the amount of interest ($10,000) and then pays the other half ($55,000).
    Notably, this still limits the amount of interest that can be charged: an amount such that the rate of interest issued is less than the rate of net wealth creation.

  • @callmecharlie0498
    @callmecharlie0498 4 місяці тому +3

    red shirt keeps smiling and as if he was owning him.
    no, you did not.

  • @GregoryGodfear
    @GregoryGodfear 6 років тому +2

    Poor guy, i feel bad

  • @earlpierce7173
    @earlpierce7173 8 років тому +30

    Lol! Some people just shouldn't breed.

    • @vortex162
      @vortex162 6 років тому +1

      Earl Pierce, some are just slower in their development, and many a times people HAVE to go through hard physical lessons!

    • @osburrob000
      @osburrob000 6 років тому +2

      maybe some descendant will be smarter, supposedly everybody descends from apes so he has made great progress. Don't be to harsh, compared to somebody else you are a complete moron, you wouldn't want them preventing you from breeding just because they are more intelligent would you?

  • @phoneticau
    @phoneticau 6 місяців тому

    This video needs to be seen far and wide

  • @dawudsoloman7924
    @dawudsoloman7924 6 років тому +4

    Lailaha il Allah! god chooses who he guides and this man is speaking sense!

  • @brockstill1431
    @brockstill1431 6 років тому +1

    The guy dressed like the Amazing mumford has an excellently illustrated point. The other guy just doesnt have the capacity to understand it.

  • @MegaMindLutonUK
    @MegaMindLutonUK 6 років тому +9

    Islam, study Sheikh Imran Hossein UA-cam channel on Ribba.

  • @AshShawwa
    @AshShawwa 6 років тому +1

    WELL SAID. RESPECT. The Talmud prohibits the Children of Israel from charging interest to their own religious members. I believe the word is gentle

  • @DAClarkism
    @DAClarkism 6 років тому +5

    This guy is conflating money with wealth. They are not the same thing. Without interest there is no reason to loan (give) anyone else any money except for an exact exchange of goods and services. He's right that if there was only 1 million in wealth, then there can't magically be 1.01 million in wealth, but what he's wrong about is the total amount of wealth in the system. The amount of wealth in the system is far higher than we realize - resources exist or are being created all the time - whether that be in the form of crops grown, fish spawned, or leaky faucets fixed by a plumber. Money is just a form of exchange for those resources and the value they contain. You can certainly create more money, though doing so decreases the value of each individual unit by a comparable amount. That is why countries that try to print their way out of debt end up with worthless currencies, and the investors in those currencies (whether they be rich or poor) end up with nothing. For poor people with little or nothing they can recover from this, but a rich person had better have assets to hold their wealth (gold, land, food, bullets, sea shells, whatever it may be) or else they end up "holding the bag", and end up at zero.
    Wealth and money are separate. Money is simply a store of value for wealth contingent upon the money's rarity. There are many varieties of money and there are other assets a person can hold to store value. Ultimately what the man is getting at is the whole "matter is neither created nor destroyed" fact of the universe(there can only ever be so much and no more), but matter does get transferred, and it does get recycled into new forms. And ultimately, we haven't come close to hitting the peak of what there can be. People are still be rapidly lifted out of poverty across the world, and without incentive to give to others beyond simply altruism, we never would have gotten to this point yet. It's normal to look at the monetary system and feel like it's hard or rough, but understand that it's probably a far better measure of this natural system we call wealth transferal than any of us are likely to come up with without causing the deaths of millions of people. Maybe that last bit sounds like hyperbole, but it isn't, history has shown us that.

    • @sylviasimpson7076
      @sylviasimpson7076 6 років тому

      Can we talk about the scam of "home ownership" & property tax ?

    • @YAOMINGOWNS
      @YAOMINGOWNS 5 років тому

      @Martien de Jong And who's to say they won't risk losing their money even if you owe them a shit ton of interest?

    • @YAOMINGOWNS
      @YAOMINGOWNS 5 років тому

      @Martien de Jong I understand that, but for all they know you can lose all your money/refuse to pay back the interest as well. It still doesn't feel like a strong deterrent to guarantee that you'll pay them back.

    • @YAOMINGOWNS
      @YAOMINGOWNS 5 років тому

      @Martien de Jong Yeah fair enough, I can agree with that.

  • @obyvatel
    @obyvatel 6 років тому +1

    There will always be money. Will it be maintained strictly as a _public utility_ or will it be the tool of parasites?

  • @dizhar8888
    @dizhar8888 6 років тому +5

    There isn't a finite amount of cash/ wealth in this world.

  • @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum
    @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum 6 років тому

    Wealth is created. Usury is the cost of money now rather than later. Time is not free, it's the most precious of resources. There is no scam.

  • @rawafidslayer9209
    @rawafidslayer9209 6 років тому +3

    WAIT WHAT? OMG. That is exactly what I am trying to do also!! I am working on a project by myself in my spare time to work out an economic system that runs without interest! I am a muslim. It would be good if we worked together! How do I contact him?
    Wow, I didn't think there were other people like me who are trying to do the same thing!

  • @lifegoeson6461
    @lifegoeson6461 5 років тому +2

    Thank you to the guy in Red shirt , he made it easy for me to understand the basics :D

  • @arnoldsgrorm
    @arnoldsgrorm 7 років тому +7

    Usury is against Islam. For those who care: does God really need to send a "son" so your sins can be forgiven? Can't God just forgive you on His own? Does God die and is helpless? Does God need children? Did Jesus once say he was to be worshipped or was God's son? Never. It was others that said that, Jesus never ever did. What if you found out that to attach partners to God will lead to eternal hell fire? The truth is Jesus was a prophet of God and brought the same message that is in Islam. The Quran is the word of God and is the last and final revelation sent down after the Bible and Torah were altered or corrupted. God Himself is protecting this last and final revelation from ever being altered until the day of judgement. The Quran is available for all to read. You have been told... it's up to you to contemplate and up to you to choose between manmade traditions or God.

    • @sylviasimpson7076
      @sylviasimpson7076 6 років тому

      + ER. The 'slims do interest - they just call it by a different name.

    • @LauraHalvar
      @LauraHalvar 6 років тому +1

      Sylvia Simpson. Do not Lie.

    • @jameswalt9623
      @jameswalt9623 6 років тому +1

      The flawed thinking that you just emitted left a bad taste in my mouth. You pathetically asking why God would need to sacrifice himself is a reflection of the very same dumbfoundation and idiocracy that this man in the red shirt just emitted in the video. It's like asking why would God create elements, can't things just exist without putting elements together if we were created by a perfect God? That's lazy thinking, especially when you're dealing with the spiritual. And Jesus himself did say he was God. what we can say is that "God's right hand" refers to the Messiah, the LORD Jesus Christ and He is of equal position, honor, power and authority with God (John 1:1-5). The fact that Christ is "sitting" refers to the fact that His work of redemption is done in his human body and when the fullness of the gentiles is brought in (Romans 11:25), Christ's enemies will be made His footstool as the end of the age comes, all prophecy is completed, and time is no more. He referred to the old scriptures when he spoke confirming he was the messiah to the real Jews who actually read scripture and were awaiting his arrival. Do not be foolish and pardon yourself from eternity with him 🔥 🔥

  • @UnknownUser-bv6dp
    @UnknownUser-bv6dp 5 років тому +1

    The man spoke the truth about intrest usury riba being forbidden in islam.

  • @neil2905
    @neil2905 6 років тому +6

    jewsury

  • @ITubeYouK
    @ITubeYouK 2 місяці тому

    Essentially you are profiting off of the needy and poor just because you the bank has money with no risk, no labor, and no service.

  • @americanmuslim6665
    @americanmuslim6665 6 років тому +7

    Dump and Dumper talking about things they have no idea of. You can make the same case if no interest exists, where will the money come from! Money comes from many sources including natural commodities and workmanship. If all of those 10 who got loans still have jobs they can still pay the loans off since money will always exist in society (as it is constantly being created).

    • @americanmuslim6665
      @americanmuslim6665 6 років тому

      Assuming they all have jobs they are making much more than they have to pay. It is the same thing as rent. You either pay $800 for rent and end up with nothing once you reach retirement age, or pay a slightly higher $1,000 for mortgage and once you reach retirement age at least you won't have to work for shelter. Even if you die half way your family will get something out of it (if they decide to sell).

    • @existextinct
      @existextinct 6 років тому +4

      You missed the point

    • @existextinct
      @existextinct 6 років тому +1

      @@americanmuslim6665 there's info on UA-cam on how renting can be better financially. Depends on the situation but a house you have to maintain. Renting a place you don't.

    • @americanmuslim6665
      @americanmuslim6665 6 років тому

      I lived in my house for 20 years, didn't spent a penny on fixing it up. Unless you mean cleaning it up, mowing the grass, and shoveling snow I would have to do this even if I was renting. Again 99% of the times it is better to buy than rent. Seen all of those videos you are talking about and they are edge cases most of the times.

    • @magasalpin6075
      @magasalpin6075 3 роки тому +1

      Think you missed the point. Yes we can create money, the problem is that the money we create is being created at interest.

  • @rygyouwill5293
    @rygyouwill5293 6 років тому +1

    10% about usury, 20% about mustache and 70% about how dumb the guy in red

  • @mikewazowski8816
    @mikewazowski8816 6 років тому +1

    So mathematics proves money shouldn't exist

  • @imac786
    @imac786 4 роки тому

    > Paper money is just printed to increase its supply. GOLD and Silver is dug from ground to increase its supply.

  • @ebmaerz7155
    @ebmaerz7155 6 років тому

    People who don't understand this are the ones who repeatedly confuse interest with profit - NOT the same thing.

  • @sparkyy0007
    @sparkyy0007 5 років тому

    When money breeds money, its children are thieves.

  • @georgepetech180
    @georgepetech180 8 років тому

    All Money is just a representation of your Labor, the more Labor, the more money is created, it is a simple concept

  • @user-og5lt7ui7l
    @user-og5lt7ui7l 5 років тому

    The guy in black is explaining in big scale but guy in red understated in small scale.

  • @jillianhorsley5985
    @jillianhorsley5985 6 років тому +1

    I felt sorry for red shirt, he knows nothing about currency creation. The Bankers want to keep it this way, but now people are learning fast.
    I liked the musical chairs explanation.

  • @RIMJANESSOHMALOOG
    @RIMJANESSOHMALOOG 6 років тому

    the way it is being sustained is through injection of money to delay the problem, in so doing business are created, but eventually the limit will be reached