You blew my mind with the inner world. Thats exactly what I do. Its like a neverending monologue from my perspective keeping my mind running and its like a void, you can get sucked into it and sometimes i will have the same though over and over again and it really affects my emotions.
Good Vid. I access my inner world by going out and walking. It's very picture and scenario based and I talk to myself very quietly when I'm in it. For me its useful for processing and putting to bed everything that's happened to me recently and after that I would then go more fictional scenarios. For blocking out stimulation I tend to subconsciously get immersed in my special interests, but I guess the two do over lap sometimes.
+orangeedo Thanks for the input. I'm the same in a sense too. A lot of times walking around is stimulating to me and brings me into my inner world too. And also helps develop it. I feel that as I grow and develop in the real world, my inner world also grown and develops and evolves as well.
I used to be pretty stuck in my inner world in childhood until recent years. tho I still won't give it up completely and in stressful situations I can't cope without it. but I've slowly been learning to try and focus on what I need to focus on. but I've imagined as if my favourite characters were real and with me in the real world. I'd imagine my favourite shows were happening in real life and I finally got to be a part of it. I'd get lost in my own world creation, which I have been trying to turn into an actuall full story with its own language and everything. I also make sure to always put myself in other peoples possible shoes. Trying to imagine myself in a whole multitude of different perspectives just revolving around one simple scenario. sometimes this can stress me out, but it's also often something I am glad to think on. I remember when I first started smoking weed, my imagination took control and it scared me because I couldn't focus on reality anymore. I got too lost with my thoughts. because I was in that state and also scared, I've had bad experiences. I was pretty convinced I was in hell, burning. despite also being aware I was just in my room. It just felt real to me. Another time I thought I was going to get abducted by aliens. And another time I thought people could read my mind and I thought I could hear peoples negative views on me. interesting times... but knowing how most people just said weed was relaxing and made things funny or more amazing to them. That's when I discovered that my brain was different. and I've since then found out about aspergers and realised how much I relate. Still have yet to get an official diagnosis from my family doctor, but I've talked to certain people online who are trained, and they agree that it sounds like I have it.
I dont think I have an inner world in the way you describe it - I have thoughts, dreams etc. - but its not some world that I go to. you seem to be describing a place to escape to - or at least some place you could imagine yourself inhabiting where on some level you are actually able to go to and inhabit. I dont have any such place. This reminds me of Hannibal Lecters mind palace.
+w00dyblack I'm sure Hannibal Lecter had a vivid inner world too. Some people have a more vivid inner world than others. One thing that I forgot to mention in the video is that the same way that people with autism, Asperger's, and ADHD have a more intense inner world, I'm sure that people with schizophrenia, psychopathy, and narcissistic personality disorder probably do too.
Yeah, it is an escape, and as sort of a "sandbox," to both unbox my thought-experiments, and through critical examination and self-exploration, understand the real world through. But to think back to my childhood, when I first begin to explore it, it was mostly a place for me to escape to because I didn't have anyone who was interested in the same things i was, nor did I find the things that others talked about or where in interested in, in any way fascinating. So in other words... I was, and remain to this day, easily bored in the things that most people are interested in, in real life. I've long felt that the Internet and UA-cam and online forums / 4chan / Reddit etc. was invented for me, people like us, where our minds and thoughts gel seamlessly with servers that act as extensions of our physical brains. With the internet, I tend to only be up in my head when I'm away from it, and when I'm online, I'm still up in my head though it does the heavy lifting for me, leading me from one topic to the next, focusing my mind on new things to explore, etc. It's just a fact though that the mind has a life of its own. And if you nourish it well, then you'll find such a mind to be just as well-furnished as the physical lives of those who only live in the "real" world. An overly-furnished mind has a ton of drawbacks, and I don't think highly of it. But I think it's healthy to nourish the one you have, and I wouldn't trade the mind I have or the experiences it has created for anything.
+MarketAndChurch I love the analogy you used about minds being seamlessly gelled to servers and internet. That's very deep. I feel like that a lot too. And you brought up another great question. Do people with asperger's and autism have such massive inner worlds because they also don't relate well to people in the real world? I never thought of that but I'm sure that your experience is common. Thank you for the thought provocation and please stick around for more videos to come.
The problem with us autistics is the fact that we are human. Being human requires a recharging of energy to survive. Food, air, water and unfortunately social interaction (sex) are the human heat sources. After 4-5 days of complete solitude I have this compelling desire to exit the "inner world" and recharge my battery, sometimes it takes only one smile, a UA-cam post, one joke, one kind glance from another stranger, a kiss or one thought of mine understood as I meant it then ~~~~> I am ready to re-enter my blissful, complete inner world, the real source of all true knowledge!! The goal of all autistics should be FORCING themselves to be with others in group interactions, if only to stay tuned to what is happening "outside". Guess what, this "outside world" is quite fascinating, other humans included.
I fully understand Mike, the need to pace ourselves socially is like a runner in a marathon needing to conserve energy to complete the race. When I was younger I don't know how I did it. I had my own business dealing with customers, the phone, paper work.......but as I age my energy is more valuable and can't be wasted and although I am surely better adapted BUT my autistic symptoms and need for isolation have only increased greatly. For instance I volunteer one day a week at a popular tourist attraction locally with many, many international visitors. Fascinating because I get to interact with others without need for follow up bonding, which is so friggen draining (the next day requires rest!) Also after incessant talking for a while I have weird shit things happen to my hearing, like sound becomes muffled and I kinda shut down. I have learned some techniques to help but it always is there!! Anyway, thanks for enduring my long rant here Mike, keep up the interesting videos, and thanks.
This is the video topic i have been looking for, i think this inner world issue help me to understand what is it being like autistic, differences from neurotypicals and how i am about this exactly. i tried to talk once my two friends about this, i asked them "are you talking with yourself inertly?", they didn't understand what i am talking about, then i asked little differently " do you imagine that you are chatting with someone or with a group of people when you are alone", they wanted more detail and i said " like making plans, before go to doctor you think what will you say to doctor, but not only for plans just for no rehearse reason, do you think that you are talking with yourself or someone else in an made up scenario in your thoughts when alone doing nothing" and i explained may be more then one hour this but what they finally said is "no that things not happening our minds, i think your brain is just fucked up because you're keeping yourself away from people and your brain trying compensate that". i think they really don't aware their inner thoughts. i need to know more about neurotypicals inner wrold in order to make a comparison by myself.
inner world is a odd perspective but understand what your getting at. doing thing in the real world and getting lost in the inner world leads to lost stuff and/or lost thought of what you were doing. I try not to let the two drift far apart so I dont go rambling about thing irrelevant to the real world. It is a place I can go to break down the workings of objects, weigh out the outcomes of scenarios or dream of thing I want to do. weed helps to keep me in the inner world when I am on the brink of a meltdown and to calm down. I dont like to be around other when high so need to be around few people. I find it good medicine to take sometime and in the right place otherwise I get stressed out on it, I can become aggressive with out realising I am.
That's basically what I was trying to convey. The "inner world" is really just the state of inner analysis and inner dialogue that we all experience. Though people with autism, asperger's, and adhd tend to experience it to a much greater extent. And yes, cannabis can also enhance and liven one's inner world too.
Great Topic! I love that you brought that up, I thought i was like the only person with an inner world type of place ya know? ^_^ I'm glad it's common!
+Sonny H Thanks! My guess is that everyone or almost everyone has an inner world to some degree. But that people with ADHD or forms of autism have a more pronounced inner world. But again, that is just a theory of mine. Please stay tuned for more vids as I just got a better camera, so now I'm not going to look like I'm a character from an 8-bit NES game anymore. And please feel free to suggest any topics you'd like me to cover.
Definitely ^_^. What has your experience with coworkers on jobs been like? Ya know, typical NT coworkers and misunderstandings that can occur. How do you handle it?
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You blew my mind with the inner world. Thats exactly what I do. Its like a neverending monologue from my perspective keeping my mind running and its like a void, you can get sucked into it and sometimes i will have the same though over and over again and it really affects my emotions.
Good Vid. I access my inner world by going out and walking. It's very picture and scenario based and I talk to myself very quietly when I'm in it. For me its useful for processing and putting to bed everything that's happened to me recently and after that I would then go more fictional scenarios. For blocking out stimulation I tend to subconsciously get immersed in my special interests, but I guess the two do over lap sometimes.
+orangeedo Thanks for the input. I'm the same in a sense too. A lot of times walking around is stimulating to me and brings me into my inner world too. And also helps develop it. I feel that as I grow and develop in the real world, my inner world also grown and develops and evolves as well.
I used to live in my interworld where everything is just
This is so refreshing to hear. Thanks
I used to be pretty stuck in my inner world in childhood until recent years. tho I still won't give it up completely and in stressful situations I can't cope without it. but I've slowly been learning to try and focus on what I need to focus on.
but I've imagined as if my favourite characters were real and with me in the real world. I'd imagine my favourite shows were happening in real life and I finally got to be a part of it. I'd get lost in my own world creation, which I have been trying to turn into an actuall full story with its own language and everything. I also make sure to always put myself in other peoples possible shoes. Trying to imagine myself in a whole multitude of different perspectives just revolving around one simple scenario. sometimes this can stress me out, but it's also often something I am glad to think on.
I remember when I first started smoking weed, my imagination took control and it scared me because I couldn't focus on reality anymore. I got too lost with my thoughts. because I was in that state and also scared, I've had bad experiences. I was pretty convinced I was in hell, burning. despite also being aware I was just in my room. It just felt real to me. Another time I thought I was going to get abducted by aliens. And another time I thought people could read my mind and I thought I could hear peoples negative views on me.
interesting times... but knowing how most people just said weed was relaxing and made things funny or more amazing to them. That's when I discovered that my brain was different. and I've since then found out about aspergers and realised how much I relate. Still have yet to get an official diagnosis from my family doctor, but I've talked to certain people online who are trained, and they agree that it sounds like I have it.
Your experiences sound somewhat similar to mine, whether or not you have aspergers.
I'm glad someone knows about the interworld
I dont think I have an inner world in the way you describe it - I have thoughts, dreams etc. - but its not some world that I go to. you seem to be describing a place to escape to - or at least some place you could imagine yourself inhabiting where on some level you are actually able to go to and inhabit. I dont have any such place. This reminds me of Hannibal Lecters mind palace.
+w00dyblack I'm sure Hannibal Lecter had a vivid inner world too. Some people have a more vivid inner world than others. One thing that I forgot to mention in the video is that the same way that people with autism, Asperger's, and ADHD have a more intense inner world, I'm sure that people with schizophrenia, psychopathy, and narcissistic personality disorder probably do too.
thank you for making this video. I got more of an inner universe. its so huge and ever expanding.
Yeah, it is an escape, and as sort of a "sandbox," to both unbox my thought-experiments, and through critical examination and self-exploration, understand the real world through. But to think back to my childhood, when I first begin to explore it, it was mostly a place for me to escape to because I didn't have anyone who was interested in the same things i was, nor did I find the things that others talked about or where in interested in, in any way fascinating. So in other words... I was, and remain to this day, easily bored in the things that most people are interested in, in real life. I've long felt that the Internet and UA-cam and online forums / 4chan / Reddit etc. was invented for me, people like us, where our minds and thoughts gel seamlessly with servers that act as extensions of our physical brains. With the internet, I tend to only be up in my head when I'm away from it, and when I'm online, I'm still up in my head though it does the heavy lifting for me, leading me from one topic to the next, focusing my mind on new things to explore, etc.
It's just a fact though that the mind has a life of its own. And if you nourish it well, then you'll find such a mind to be just as well-furnished as the physical lives of those who only live in the "real" world. An overly-furnished mind has a ton of drawbacks, and I don't think highly of it. But I think it's healthy to nourish the one you have, and I wouldn't trade the mind I have or the experiences it has created for anything.
+MarketAndChurch I love the analogy you used about minds being seamlessly gelled to servers and internet. That's very deep. I feel like that a lot too. And you brought up another great question. Do people with asperger's and autism have such massive inner worlds because they also don't relate well to people in the real world? I never thought of that but I'm sure that your experience is common. Thank you for the thought provocation and please stick around for more videos to come.
In one of the videos you were sober? What happened? Stay sober and forget the neurotypical
The problem with us autistics is the fact that we are human. Being human requires a recharging of energy to survive. Food, air, water and unfortunately social interaction (sex) are the human heat sources. After 4-5 days of complete solitude I have this compelling desire to exit the "inner world" and recharge my battery, sometimes it takes only one smile, a UA-cam post, one joke, one kind glance from another stranger, a kiss or one thought of mine understood as I meant it then ~~~~> I am ready to re-enter my blissful, complete inner world, the real source of all true knowledge!! The goal of all autistics should be FORCING themselves to be with others in group interactions, if only to stay tuned to what is happening "outside". Guess what, this "outside world" is quite fascinating, other humans included.
See, I do need a dose of human interaction. But after a while, it becomes draining. It's almost like I can't find the right balance.
I fully understand Mike, the need to pace ourselves socially is like a runner in a marathon needing to conserve energy to complete the race. When I was younger I don't know how I did it. I had my own business dealing with customers, the phone, paper work.......but as I age my energy is more valuable and can't be wasted and although I am surely better adapted BUT my autistic symptoms and need for isolation have only increased greatly. For instance I volunteer one day a week at a popular tourist attraction locally with many, many international visitors. Fascinating because I get to interact with others without need for follow up bonding, which is so friggen draining (the next day requires rest!) Also after incessant talking for a while I have weird shit things happen to my hearing, like sound becomes muffled and I kinda shut down. I have learned some techniques to help but it always is there!! Anyway, thanks for enduring my long rant here Mike, keep up the interesting videos, and thanks.
This is the video topic i have been looking for, i think this inner world issue help me to understand what is it being like autistic, differences from neurotypicals and how i am about this exactly.
i tried to talk once my two friends about this, i asked them "are you talking with yourself inertly?", they didn't understand what i am talking about, then i asked little differently " do you imagine that you are chatting with someone or with a group of people when you are alone", they wanted more detail and i said " like making plans, before go to doctor you think what will you say to doctor, but not only for plans just for no rehearse reason, do you think that you are talking with yourself or someone else in an made up scenario in your thoughts when alone doing nothing" and i explained may be more then one hour this but what they finally said is "no that things not happening our minds, i think your brain is just fucked up because you're keeping yourself away from people and your brain trying compensate that". i think they really don't aware their inner thoughts.
i need to know more about neurotypicals inner wrold in order to make a comparison by myself.
+Ibrahim Alımcı I share your struggle. I get hassled about talking to myself. I'm glad you enjoyed my video.
inner world is a odd perspective but understand what your getting at. doing thing in the real world and getting lost in the inner world leads to lost stuff and/or lost thought of what you were doing. I try not to let the two drift far apart so I dont go rambling about thing irrelevant to the real world. It is a place I can go to break down the workings of objects, weigh out the outcomes of scenarios or dream of thing I want to do. weed helps to keep me in the inner world when I am on the brink of a meltdown and to calm down. I dont like to be around other when high so need to be around few people. I find it good medicine to take sometime and in the right place otherwise I get stressed out on it, I can become aggressive with out realising I am.
That's basically what I was trying to convey. The "inner world" is really just the state of inner analysis and inner dialogue that we all experience. Though people with autism, asperger's, and adhd tend to experience it to a much greater extent. And yes, cannabis can also enhance and liven one's inner world too.
Great Topic! I love that you brought that up, I thought i was like the only person with an inner world type of place ya know? ^_^ I'm glad it's common!
+Sonny H Thanks! My guess is that everyone or almost everyone has an inner world to some degree. But that people with ADHD or forms of autism have a more pronounced inner world. But again, that is just a theory of mine. Please stay tuned for more vids as I just got a better camera, so now I'm not going to look like I'm a character from an 8-bit NES game anymore. And please feel free to suggest any topics you'd like me to cover.
Definitely ^_^. What has your experience with coworkers on jobs been like? Ya know, typical NT coworkers and misunderstandings that can occur. How do you handle it?
Sonny H
That's a great idea. Thanks.
And thanks for the sub! I'll sub you too
I've been somewhat busy but I'll try to make the video this weekend.
Is this sorta like maladaptive daydreaming?