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How to repoint a lead roof valley
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2015
- This video shows how to repoint a lead roof valley. A scaffold tower has been used for access in this video. Never try and work on a roof from a ladder as a fall could be fatal!
In this video the old pointing is removed from the lead valley and it is replaced with fibre reinforced mortar.
Excellent and helpful and pitched at the level of a handyman
7 years later you are still replying to people's comments, based on this, I subscribed.
Your channel deserves more subscribers!
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Interesting information regarding sbr slurry to aid bonding.. just done one today lifted the cut tiles in the valley and layed a bed underneath then pointed the face
Yeah, SBR is wonderful stuff 👍
Wonderful explanation, so much useful details. Knowing these could save you a fortune and let you to do the job only once and ensures it lasts for long time without leak. God bless you Ultimate Handyman!
+Talashgar Thanks for the comment ;-)
Great video. Well presented and very informative. Thanks.
You are welcome
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When dry, i painted my cement with grey liquid roof paint it also has glass fibres in it and flexes . It seals it makes it stronger and also stops the moss growing on the porous cement
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cheers mate, very very helpful, quick, concise, and not full of waffle. You are the best :)
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Excellent advice on repainting a valley gutter
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Nice one. Good points ;) on all the major issues one might encounter when doing this.
+aserta
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Dunlop tile pointing mortar readymade is fantastic stuff, flexible and good quality
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thanks pal you just helped me big style.. very informative video
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Really clear and instructive. Great video. Many thanks.
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@@ultimatehandyman My pleasure. Just one question - how long did you leave the first run of mortar before you finished off with the fillet? Was the first run still wet?
@@crazywazydoublehazy It just dried out slightly, I can't remember exactly how long I left it, but it's best if the first run has not dried, as it will stick better.
Ultimate Handyman - Ok, as I thought. Thanks for replying.
So much knowledge and attention to details! Bravo!
+Shahar Dror Thanks, I'm lucky as I can ask the members of the forum if there is something I do not know. www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/
Very useful - thanks.
Lovely neat work, but then I expect no less from you Chez!
+caskwith Thanks, I do find pointing quite therapeutic most of the time ;-)Thanks for the comment
Thanks for uploading, exactly what i need to do to my roof as soon as it stops raining.
I’m glad you found the video useful
Best of luck with it.
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@@ultimatehandyman Just been up there and replaced a broken tile and repositoned a slipped one, the causes of the leaks, pointing next.
What a superb video.
Glad you think so!
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Awesome stuff and guess what I have to do next year ? ;-P The SBR bond tip is great, never knew about it. Have to do the verges as well and bed in new ridge tiles.
Good luck with it ;-)
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Great video just what I was looking for to repoint my roof. Couple of questions from the novice. Does it have to be sbr primer or would any liquid primer do incuding pva ? Any specific type of mortar required for the repointing ? THANKS.
Is it the same process for “profiled” roof tiles? My the tiles on my gullies are arched
Very good!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video sir. Will you be uploading Anymore videos to do with roofing? I hope you will!
+Faisal Y
Thanks Faisal, This is the last one for a long time as my roof should be okay for a couple of years now.
If I do any work on my other properties I'll be sure to film it though ;-)
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I' will be doing this tomorrow on a new vally. have you ever installed grp valley trays? I took mine back as they didnt fit very well so exchanged them for some lead.
+hucks33
No, sorry it's not something I have done before. I don't do a lot of roofing to be honest and only do it when I really have to.
Best of luck with it ;-)
Thanks for your video.
My Roof is leaking through the valley cause the cement has fallen off.If the roofer cements it again is that a temporary fix or permanent fix?
Thanks again.
It should be a permanent fix. It should last several years before it needs doing again.
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What would you do in instances where the old mortar is stuck to the tiles and you don't want to risk breaking the tiles? Would you use an angle grinder, chisel or something else?
Yes, I'd use an angle grinder and diamond tipped blade.
You could do it with a chisel, but risk breaking the tiles.
Thanks for the video Ultimate ..... I am trying to gain some tips on replacing some roof tiles. My roof tiles are bedded with mortar. Have you done any videos where you replace the tiles using mortar as a securing agent. I have a hip that needs attention. I was thinking of removing all the tiles and batons then putting down a felt layer first .... any suggestions?
You are welcome.
I've not done a lot of roofing, only replacing the odd tile and this valley.
If you check out fixmyroof on UA-cam I'm sure they will have covered it.
thank you mate .....
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I use a 2 soft sand, 1 sharp sand, 1 cement mix for valleys. Might add some sbr as well so it sticks better
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@@ultimatehandyman Good work as well mate. Nice one 👍🏻
Good video - can I ask , as the valley on mine has two high pitches rather side I will need to go up valley and do both sides at same time. In your video you filled then faced a fillet. Did you do these on separate occasions or simply deep fill and bevel edge at same time?
I did the deep fill first, then bevelled the edge a bit later- in the same day.
Good luck with yours ;-)
@@ultimatehandyman thanks for quick reply. Did you add any sbr into mortar and what ratio sand / cement ?
@@scarboroughrider Yes, I used SBR instead of water, but also used fibres to reinforce the mix- ua-cam.com/video/Nt2rprFyD8g/v-deo.html&t
If I remember rightly I used a 4 to 1 mix
Good video, but I must point out that metals like lead expand and contract much more than cement, so bodies like the Lead Sheet Association and NHBC recommend placing tile slips (or some other slip membrane) between the cement and lead (easier said than done though!). But of course using fibres in the mix should minimise the eventual cracking and loosening of the pointing.
+Benzknees Thanks, a few people recommended a GRP valley, but that was too much work.Hopefully the mortar will last. It has to be better than it was!Thanks for the comment
+Ultimate Handyman That valley's a lot, lot better than it was! Compared to most repointing jobs, that'll probably last 2-3 times as long.
As for GRP, whilst it's pretty much taken over from lead on new builds, due to cost, ease of handling, being preformed & quick to install and not needing specialised skills, it has a shorter lifespan (c.25-30 yrs v 40-60 yrs), and is more prone to cracking/edge splitting if roughly handled/walked on (as often happens on construction sites!). And, as you say, installing it on an existing roof is a much bigger job (and often exposes other problems like damaged tiles, rotting underfelt & batten ends!).
+Benzknees
Thanks for the detailed comments ;-)
+Benzknees not needing skills? First you need to batten the roof correctly so the fg valleys fits and you need to cut and point the valley. Plenty of skill needed there my friend
+Pete's Back Garden The words I used were "specialised skills" not "skills". Leadwork is specialised and traditionally not something within the skill level of a roofer, instead being done by a specialist plumber. Setting out battens and valley boarding is well within the ordinary skill level of any roofer. Please read and try to understand before making a comment.
Can you please make a video on how to remove nails from floorboards. I have got long nails embedded deep into floorboards and they are hard to get out without damaging the board. So if you could do a video about that or give any advice that would be nice. maybe how to get the nail heads out so you can pull them out with crowbar/hammer?
+The Hitman
This might help- ua-cam.com/video/WlcAUU8JIdw/v-deo.html
Unfortunately the nails do make a mess of the boards, but once the board is removed you can straighten the nails and knock them out and then pull them from the opposite side.
I tried lifting them but the floorboards are old and weak and that's why whenever i pull them they break from where the nails are thats how deep the nails are embedded.
+The Hitman Try getting a nail punch and punch the nails straight through the boards. When refitting them screw them down to the side of the nail holes.There is not much you can do with boards like that I'm afraid.
Thanks, i'll try that.
Is it even worth pointing if the tiles overhang the valley by a long way?? I mean...they're bedded in mortar, but it was done as the tiles were laid, so it's way up under there. I don't see the point in pointing it
They must point them for a reason 🤔
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which video shows the pointing mortar mix please?
This one- ua-cam.com/video/Nt2rprFyD8g/v-deo.html
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@@ultimatehandyman thank you- now pointed my valley with your recipe so if it leaks it,s your fault :)
@@robertlonsdale3826 You get a one day guarantee with any work that I do. If I'm on site and it goes past 4pm and I go in the next day and something I touched was OK, I just say the guarantee has run out ;-)
Seriously though, it should be fine for years ;-)
Fibre reinforced mortar can you explain more please is this ready mixed or a made up recipe
You have to mix it yourself - ua-cam.com/video/Nt2rprFyD8g/v-deo.html
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:38 The safest thing is to be tied off wearing a harness. My former boss learned the hard way, so many fines by OSHA. One day there was one big house that cost him his life. R.I.P Michael D. Welch
Very sad when this happens. I've seen people on roofs with no scaffold, no cat ladder, no harness- no nothing!
You are a long time dead!
May he rest in peace!
french style roofs are the WORST with inner valleys adjoining to the centre ,omg hated them !
+girlsdrinkfeck
I don't like fixing any roof to be honest, unless I really have to.
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i was only an apprentice with roofing ,while not as hig pay as my job now ,its my most memorable and msot enjoyable ,every job costumer and location was different ,good times ,and yes i was bad ,we rarely uses scaffolding ! even for complete retiling felt and battern work :O
+girlsdrinkfeck
Blimey rather you than me. I won't go anywhere near the roof unless I put the scaffold tower up first. I do know an alarm installer in the next town who fell from a ladder and died, so I'm always very careful when working at heights!
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its understandale ,i was about 21 as an apprecentice and my work partner was in his 40s who was old fashioned attitude ,he cared more about the job than his own saftey ,thanks for the fast replies !
+girlsdrinkfeck
That's not a good attitude by your boss, I'd never put anyone at risk like that- one slip and you could be dead!
I actually went on the garage roof a few months back, only to replace one tile. I didn't realise that it's slightly steeper than the house (I can walk on the house if I'm careful- I kind of walk like a ballet dancer), It was only a 5 minute job so used the ladder and almost slipped as the tiles are granular. I would probably only of broken something but hitting concrete pavers even from just 8 feet could have left me unable to work for a while or worse!
No problem on the fast replies I'm working at the computer ;-)
Why bother fit a dry valley
I’m not a roofer, but I know how to repair 👍
1:32 with subtitles on, lol
+Peter Lister
Ha Ha, well funny ;-)
Turning on the CC on most of my videos is hilarious!
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