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I actually love Jude Law in this. He's the uncle who's babysitting kids, and he has to bite his tongue constantly. Trying to reason with partners who are not only inexperienced but dangerously sheltered.
I agree. The goonies had the older brother there for a reason. Kids can’t do everything and they need someone to learn from. Regardless who Jude’s character ends up being.
My 11 year old has seen some starwars but this is really her first. She’s being introduced to all the things the kids are being introduced . Perfect jumping on point. Even the “Jedi” is captivating because it’s all new to her
Growing up my friends and I called Star Wars lovingly "How many times can you mess up and miraculously not die?" The original trilogy is very much characters bumbling their way through. This show, even more so ep 3 now, brings that feeling back for me.
When Crimson Jack told the kids to get some sleep, and was walking around then told the young girl to get some rest, that was done to show that he cares for the kid's well-being. He could have harmed them if he wanted to, but showing him watching the kids sleeping was a way to demonstrate that he isn't a threat to them.
He's not a threat to the children, but that doesn't mean he isn't still using them. He openly admitted they just share the same common interest. Get back to At Attin.
I'm loving Skeleton Crew. The cast, the world building, and the story of these kids swept into a Star Wars universe. That said, I do not want this connected to any First Order or Palpatine lore. I hope it remains free of the Sequel Stain, and just continues to be a fun High Adventure tale that has its own colorful, inspiring life
Agreed. I'm all in with creating stories beyond the "Skywalker" saga, but why do that, only to latch yourself to a throwaway line from the most mediocre movie of the series.
SM33 has said twice “can’t say I’ve heard of At Attin.” Second time he made it weird… “only going to say it once,” “ aye” I’ll bet everything that he’s being litterally. He litterally CAN’T say that he HAS heard of it. He’s blocked from it. If you watch that scene again with that in mind, it’s perfect!
The Jude Law character is very nuanced and comes across on screen quite well-love how he is a pivotal role for the kids to play off challenging them and their values-this allow the characters growth including Law. The dynamics could be Uncle Buck in Star Wars.
I did connect that they share the word crimson and it's probably not a coincidence, but ultimately I think this is just a dude who made many alliances with many fractions and had many aliases. In fact I think it would be funny if in every episode we learned a new alias.
Johnny Watts, the show runner, said last month in an interview with Dais Johnston in Inverse on 18 November 2024 that he was talking about the Clone Wars era republic, not the KOTOR era republic thousands of years ago.
I think the idea of the planet funding the Sith Empire. Darth Plagueis was a Muun and a member of the Banking Clan. It would make since for him to discover the planet and set it up to secretly finance the Sith.
This show is fun, out of no where I am fanboy'ing this show to friends. I am struck that the two best Disney era SW shows (IMO) I have initially had no expectations going in. This show, and the other being Andor.
I think the biggest clue to the mystery At-Attin is SM33. Peter Pan takes a lot from the Treasure Island books. At-Attin is the treasure island AND Never-Never-Land, it doesn't grow up, the great work is from the Old Republic, the planet missed out on all of the prequel and original histories and I don't think that it's going to touch on Palpatine's return. The Mando verse/Fillioni's franchises i.e. Ashoka(Rebels) is handling the return of Palpatine and Skeleton Crew is a single story that will uncover its own mystery. The show is directed at children (13 and under) and we older fans are along for the ride. The show won't touch on a larger plot lines from the last 15 years like Palps return because it would go over the primary audiences (children) heads because there's too much history to digest that they weren't around for unlike us older fans. It will have a self contained story whenever the show finishes.
SM33 does share some similarities to Sith Introductions in past Star Wars stories, It’s possible a “Peter Pan” like character found At-Attin, and used the treasure plant riches to finance the rise of the rebellion… Capt’n Jack might be a sqaulawage Jedi that got booted from the academy, and now 1st mate Smittee; will make contact with his captain “hand object”, to re-engage their quest for treasure (at-attin), a narrow escape will ensue… leading the kids to a happy return to their rebellion helping parents by Capt’n Jack, and Jack receiving the Black Pearl(or whatever they end up calling the ship the kids found) for his efforts, with the ability to use the planet as a hide out as long as he never tells where it is… (with the captain “hand object”{most likely that other captain guy from that other Star Wars TV show}, in the end credits, shown getting the coordinates to at-attain; for a season 2 setup)… Maybe we’ll even get an Asoka tie in, that explains how she was financed to help rebuild the republic, as a certain kid is taken to Luke Skywalker to be trained, and Jack gets an offer to visit him while he trains…. There were talks this might replace pirates of the Caribbean at the parks; as a cheaper way to repurpose an old ride, while also launching a kid friendly entry into the disney-verse… This would heavily unify Pirates/peter-pan/star-wars into a single property… with park tie-ins to “star-wars” and update numerous rides in the future… As a bonus note* it would be really cool if Jack Black and Lizzo some how got thrown into the mix of all this as well!!!
And I like how the show even addresses this to the (viewing) audience through the character Kh'ymm when she says, "Missed the war, did you?" That's letting the audience off the hook and not making the prequel or original trilogy "required viewing"
But the first story I've really enjoyed since the Rebels cartoon , I feel invested again. As for age I'm 56 🤣, but I do like Bad Batch but there's no hook. This 👍.
I was never into the original trilogy, the first film was meant to be a one off, but it took off beyond George Lucas expectation. I didn't care for the prequels either. Lucas made it kid friendly with fart jokes and Jar Jar. I got into Star Wars with the Clone Wars animation, then Rebels, and I have been on board since. I have had enough of Jedi, Sith and how Palatine always wins, even when one plan is foiled it works to his benefit. No one is that perfect or always wins every battle.
Loved the episode. Loved all 3. Hyped for the Daniels episode. And Bryces. Point is. Im sold on it. I want the episodes now. I mean, not really. I enjoy the anticipation. I just want as much of this as I can get.
Along that line, it could be argued that: The boy is Jim Hawkins. The owl is Dr. Livesey. The elephant is Squire Trelawny. The captain is Captain Smollett. The robot is Ben Gunn. Just looking at the wikipedia page, I also noticed the following minor character: Mr. Dance: Chief revenue officer (titled *Supervisor*) who ascends with his men upon the Admiral Benbow, driving out the pirates, and saving Jim Hawkins and his mother. He then takes Hawkins to see the squire and the doctor. They certainly aren't following the plot of the novel to the letter, so I'm not sure what, if anything, it means, but it's something to keep in mind.
29:27 the other thing about The Mandalorian Seasons 1&2 and Andor, were they were character-driven stories that were free from the baggage of the sequel trilogy. They were both just good, compelling, well-told stories that happened to be taking place in the Star Wars galaxy.
My theory is that At Attin is kinda like the LOST island. The Republic lost it long ago and it was forgotten about. It has been on autopilot ever since, probably for several generations, but not thousands of years.
1. The Supervisor is an AI 2. Jod is a former Jedi Youngling expelled prior to Order 66 3. SM-33 killed the ship’s crew 4. Bittersweet ending - Neel and KB stay on At Attin for sake of their families while Wim and Fern venture on
I am not so sure. The planet At Attin is run in a controlled state, people are classed into castes like in Brave New World. I wonder what happens to those that don't make the grade, don't tow the line.
3800 views in the first hour, fans just don’t care about this stuff anymore, unfortunately. Normally I would agree, but this has been the best live action show in my favorite IP’s lore for introducing Starwars to my son. Relatable to him enough for his attention & entertaining enough for me to watch with him. I’m thankful for this show for that reason alone.
I love that they brought back at least a version of Crimson Jack. Some of the first comic books I ever bought as a young kid were a 3 pack of Star Wars 11-13 I think. One of the first post new hope comic books I ever stories with Solo’s old rival Crimson Jack.
Are you sure? Because in the last episode we found out that they had no knowledge about the original movies time period. What makes you think they know about the prequel area Star wars. I most likely connect to the High Republic era. Especially when you consider when the show was written and all the focus on the High republic books back then.
Have a feeling Crimson Jack was a Padawan who lost his master or escaped during order 66 as a young kid and ended up being a pirate trying to survive. Another theory I have is Wims dad has rebel connections and is a spy on the planet, that's how he lost his wife and now that Wim is gone he will reach out to them to try and get Wim back that way, which will cause his cover to be blown. I don't see them all going back to the planet now or at least life on the planet being the same after these events.
"Nobody is withholding information for narrative purposes." That was one of the many maddening things about The Acolyte...it was so clearly obvious the writers were just jerking us around instead of telling us a story. I'm not sure the story is necessarily part of the "big saga" at all, at least not anything critical. Their currency isn't ancient, it's immediately recognizable by the pirates as being "Republic" rather than "Empire" or "New Republic. I don't think At Attin is a "treasure" planet...at least not in pirate terms. I don't think the planet is from the Old Republic, but from the prequel Republic. I think the fact that this world looks like the product of an "iron HOA" is for a point. It's interesting to note another difference: Droids are not only everywhere, but they also seem to be government-owned. Most of the droids we've seen in Star Wars have been personal possessions. How many human government officials have we seen? Only one, a "supervisor." All other officials or government "employees" have been droids. All positions of social authority, from school teachers to cops to tram drivers are droids. All the humans have vague jobs like "analyst." I think the "Great Work" is just make work to keep the humans occupied. When the one kid said he wanted a job "helping people," he was ridiculed by the droid teacher as well as the other children. They told him droids filled all those roles. That's ominous. We have an obviously strictly manicured world in which humans have irrelevant roles with all roles of authority filled by droids. Nobody is allowed on or off the world, no starship travel is permitted. Humans exploring the world outside their normal zones are quickly shooed back to their neighborhoods by droids. The world has been so tightly cocooned that the inhabitants don't know anything about the Clone Wars, the fall of the Republic, the Empire or its fall, or the New Republic. They think the prequel Republic still stands. They believe Alderaan still exists. They use currency from the prequel Republic era. For the planet to have been established and then hidden that far back, it can't be a function of the Empire or the New Republic or the First Order. Actually, this world is very much like Camazotz in "A Wrinkle in Time." The big mystery is how and why such a place exists.
We have heard the term supervisor in Star Wars before! It's an Imperial Security Bureau (ISB) rank. Dedra Meero from Andor is a Supervisor. That definitely makes me think there's an Imperial remnant tie-in.
I think that At-Attin was hidden before the era of Episode 1. That's why they have been untouched by the Clone and Imperial wars. They've been out of the loop for generations.
I wonder why the school system is focused on finance, money and fungibility. The planet looks quite well off. How do they maintain that without contact with the rest of the galaxy?
This is the first starwars show in a bit that I am truly waiting for the next episode with excitement. I haven't hated everything, but I haven't been just dying to see most of it.
I've just been enjoying this show and its vibe. It fits perfectly into Star Wars, feels independent of Skywalkers, maybe holds some deeper meaning to the Old Republic and First Order, which is clever, but I also don't care about that as much as I do for the crew. I have to admire how both this show and Andor can both represent the best of Star Wars and be on complete opposite sides of the spectrum for more casual fans.
Guys, palpatine was a youth in plagueis, learning to be a mastermind by his master. Being a mastermind before the prequels will break lore, which is respected this time. I think At Attin is more likely to be the treasure chest for the empire/ new order and perhaps finances the whole producing of the last fleet of Thrawn. That will tie in perfectly.
I appreciate a like some of parts of the new shows but as a whole they’ve all been all over the place with pacing, narrative, and characters. With that being said Andor, Skelton Crew, and the first two seasons of The Mandalorian have been the best Star Wars that we’ve gotten and I would rank them as such. The Skelton Crew just gets it and I think this is how the universe should feel just like this!
I love this interview video where we get honest and intriguing answers from show creators, learn new movie techniques, hints of the seeds that have been planted and hopefully the payoffs will be worth it, lessons learned from the past, and nice reveals!!!
What are you going to do? Fall into a heap, crying and screaming? She had to go on for the rebellion and for her planet. She wouldn't have given Darth Vader or that grand Moff the satisfaction of seeing her feelings.
No. It wasn't what a lot of the fandom wanted, it didn't fit their biases. And it cost too much. I liked the show just not the woman and children playing the twins.
My guess is Crimson Jack is a Clone Wars veteran. The way he acted around SM-33 makes it seem like he’s not a fan of droids, and that seems to be a trait of other Clone Wars veterans.
Pirate reference: "Silvo" reminds me of the character "Long John Silver" whose moral ambiguity is a major plot point of the book Treasure Island. He flip-flops between good guy and bad guy throughout the entire book. In the end, he lands somewhere in between. Treasure Island, BTW, it the original kid on a pirate ship story. I think Jude Law's character will follow that same Long John Silver arc throughout this series.
The first order only uses humans. why would they have a planet of 1/5 humans, judging by the overall appearances of different species on the planet, saved for use as their army and financial backing? That's a small army and alot of generational prejudice to deal with.
I for one will be disappointed if Jude Law's character turns out to be a jedi or sith. Jedi are generally pretty dull, and sith doesn't really make any sense. And it's always driven me nuts that it's always treated as an inevitability that if you're force sensitive, you end up in those 2 camps. If you found yourself having these sweet magic force powers as a kid, what would your first thoughts be? "I must join this chastity bound organization of stuffed shirts as soon as humanly possible", or "I've gotta find a mentor that I must kill, and eventually find an apprentice that will kill me in my sleep." No, you'd want nothing to do with that. You'd want to be your own person with these really cool powers that you'll use for good, ill, or neutral ends. The whole thing of being force sensitive meaning you're going to join one of these 2 groups makes the world seem that much smaller.
He cannot be a Jedi. Jedi are a religious order with a strict dogma that take children as babes from their parents. It takes years to go through the monastery and a lot of younglings don't make it. I don't like the Jedi.
I'm loving the show. The mix of goonies among other group of kids movies mixed with pirates and treasure hunting is a lot of fun. The subtle deep lore references also show the creators care about the franchise.
I’ve always been fascinated by how the Jedi Order found and trained younglings, and have always speculated that in a huge galaxy it would be impossible to find every force sensitive, and what the life of a non-Jedi force sensitive would look like. I assume that without training, they wouldn’t be able to maximize their potential, but also would reveal their natural abilities through their lives, and be able to hone their skills by as Jude Law says “practice”. This is also in a time period without a Jedi Order at all, or a very young rebirthed Skywalker order. So that would mean that even the most powerful force sensitives would not be trained! I don’t think, AND severely hope that he has nothing to do with ANY Jedi, so we get a glimpse of a powerful force sensitive that never had the chance to be trained, just making their way through the galaxy without guidance! I LOVE IT! Fascinating!
I don't care. I will die on this hill. The Ewoks movies from the 80's were good! The first one "The Ewok Movie/Caravan of Courage" is the better of the two, but Battle for Endor is fun because it was the first introduction to witches in the Star Wars universe and it also featured a heroic Wilfred Brimley as a hermit who just randomly lived on Endor. I was 6 - 8 years old when they originally aired, but my mom recorded them both from tv on a VHS tape and I watched them all the time.
No need to die on any hill hoisting your flag. Never seen the Ewok movies. It is hard for me to get too investing in teddy bear look a likes or walking carpets or any of the cute furry creatures. Wilfred Brimley was a good actor.
The end of Episode 3 tells me there might little chance for a happy return for those kids - the dad looks like he's about to do something stupid after the droid told the parents nothing could be done because the kids were outside the barrier.
You know, I just realized that 33 isn't saying he doesn't know where At Attin is. He is saying he can't say. Of course, now that I watched the current episode...
I think the only one thing bothering me in the show. Wouldn’t starship’s have some sort of history of where it’s been? I realize the show would just be over if they looked but they could at least explain the data was corrupted or something.
@ yes except there should be a record of where they left from. Which is At Attin. But having seen the last episode the droid probably deleted it as soon as they arrived since he had a standing order to hide all knowledge of the planet.
The Acolyte had some interesting ideas and characters, it just had too many issues in how it told the story. It might have worked better as a tv movie.
So something that has reaaaallly been bothering me is the way SM-33 emphasized the “Aye” after Ja asked if the kids were really from At Attin when EVERY time before that when someone asks about At Attin he says “Can’t so I know of any At Attin”. Considering in episode 1 or 2 we saw Fern overwrite her house droid to lie for her. It makes me wonder what the previous captains last orders were to SM-33 before he went into stasis.
I really enjoy the show. When the 3rd episode ended I found myself saying “Nooooo! I don’t want to wait another week!” There are some subtle things happening that I am curious about. What medical issues does KB have? Her parents were talking about them. When Wim jumped into the gunner station, he actually got a good shot off. Was that by chance or is he using the force … like Anakin podracing. What happened to Wim’s mom? She read stories to him and he carries those with him. Was it a way for her to teach him about the force because she also was force sensitive? Is that why his father looked so distraught? What does he know? Why was it a big deal to Neel that he said he basically wanted to be a Jedi? At the end of this , will Neel talk to the classmate he has feelings for? Maybe the entire planet is controlled by droids and the Supervisor is a droid? Out of left field idea … could Jod be Korkie Kryze?
I know you’ve mentioned goonies countless times and I definitely agree. However there’s another great work that it reminds me of and that is Robert Louis Stevenson’s Treasure Island
If this planet is a first order planet, they could have made the kids a little older and the main character could have been Finn, who then becomes a first order trooper, who then realizes he is on the wrong side and of course yields a lightsaber like he wanted in the sequel movies
This is treasure planet. I have zero doubt that At Attin is the fort knox of the old republic/empire and it was hidden to protect it and keep it out of the general galaxies reach.
I’m loving the show. My only complaint is that it’s so dark. Before I watch an episode I gotta spent like 5 min adjusting my tv so I can see what’s going on. Am I the only one?
Has anyone suggested a parallel between At Attin’s cult like Great Work and the Jedi’s own indoctrination of young children? Jod may be a former Jedi youngling who left years before Order 66, bridling at the Order’s restrictions in a way not dissimilar to how Wim’s adventurous nature grates against the oppressiveness of his home world
In Skeleton Crew episode 3, right before they meet up with Kh'ymm, she sounded like she was talking to another woman, confirming Crimson Jack's identity. It sounded like Emilia Clark. I'm hoping Qi'ra and the rest of Crimson Dawn is in this series.
Would it be interesting where we have this At Attin, the fable Old/High Republic planet as a battleground where everybody from different eras from prequels, originals, the Mandoverse, and upcoming sequels fight against Thrawn’s forces while figuring out he’s distracting them from The First Order?
My (doomed) theory is that At Attin is a skunkworks - akin to Los Almost during the Manhattan Project. Like the Project, there's a Great Work being pursued and an on-site community for the workers and their families. It exists in a constant state of high security as these things do - isolated from the outside world. And because some know that it exists but not what goes on behind the secretive world inside the barrier... rumors form. Groom Lake has captured aliens - so the stories go. And At Attin is an eternal treasure planet.
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Old Republic is far older than what you said.
I actually love Jude Law in this. He's the uncle who's babysitting kids, and he has to bite his tongue constantly. Trying to reason with partners who are not only inexperienced but dangerously sheltered.
I agree. The goonies had the older brother there for a reason. Kids can’t do everything and they need someone to learn from. Regardless who Jude’s character ends up being.
Totally agree
Yes
Uncle Buck in space 😂😂😂
good point
My 11 year old has seen some starwars but this is really her first. She’s being introduced to all the things the kids are being introduced . Perfect jumping on point. Even the “Jedi” is captivating because it’s all new to her
Growing up my friends and I called Star Wars lovingly "How many times can you mess up and miraculously not die?" The original trilogy is very much characters bumbling their way through. This show, even more so ep 3 now, brings that feeling back for me.
When Crimson Jack told the kids to get some sleep, and was walking around then told the young girl to get some rest, that was done to show that he cares for the kid's well-being. He could have harmed them if he wanted to, but showing him watching the kids sleeping was a way to demonstrate that he isn't a threat to them.
He's not a threat to the children, but that doesn't mean he isn't still using them. He openly admitted they just share the same common interest. Get back to At Attin.
Another film this reminds me of? Adventures in Babysitting.
He needs the kids for the treasure.
@@monnica1862 I'm not saying that he is a saint. But they showed him saying something that a guardian or parent would say to children.
I'm loving Skeleton Crew. The cast, the world building, and the story of these kids swept into a Star Wars universe. That said, I do not want this connected to any First Order or Palpatine lore. I hope it remains free of the Sequel Stain, and just continues to be a fun High Adventure tale that has its own colorful, inspiring life
Agreed. I'm all in with creating stories beyond the "Skywalker" saga, but why do that, only to latch yourself to a throwaway line from the most mediocre movie of the series.
What did you think of the episode?
It was great!
I’m liking it so far. It’s very refreshing. Can’t wait to hear more about Jod’s story
@GannonCole24 yeah. Yeah.. Me too!!
Skeleton Crew is Wizard
It’s a great show so far
Skeleton Crew is the perfect holiday family gift for the family that watches Star Wars together! Much Love!
SM33 has said twice “can’t say I’ve heard of At Attin.” Second time he made it weird… “only going to say it once,” “ aye”
I’ll bet everything that he’s being litterally. He litterally CAN’T say that he HAS heard of it. He’s blocked from it. If you watch that scene again with that in mind, it’s perfect!
He'll probably still say it when actually standing on the planet.
Damn! Don’t know if you’ve seen ep 4 but you’re spot on!
Nailed it 👍🏼 well played !!!
@@benjaminjenkins394word He was 😂
😂😂😂 after ep. 4 Neil is that guy lol
That guy is the new Han Solo. He’s helping them for money, but eventually he’ll become a hero.
He better be. We need a Ford replacement
The Jude Law character is very nuanced and comes across on screen quite well-love how he is a pivotal role for the kids to play off challenging them and their values-this allow the characters growth including Law. The dynamics could be Uncle Buck in Star Wars.
I can't believe nobody has connected Crimson Jack to Crimson Dawn yet
star wars theory was on it
A character that already exists in cannon. No connection to crimson dawn.
I did connect that they share the word crimson and it's probably not a coincidence, but ultimately I think this is just a dude who made many alliances with many fractions and had many aliases. In fact I think it would be funny if in every episode we learned a new alias.
I mean there’s also the Crimson Corsair and there’s no connection between him and Crimson Dawn.
Would make sense if he was a Mul disciple
If I’m not mistaken, Watts said, it’s not The Old Republic era credits but old credits from the Republic fall of the Jedi era.
Johnny Watts, the show runner, said last month in an interview with Dais Johnston in Inverse on 18 November 2024 that he was talking about the Clone Wars era republic, not the KOTOR era republic thousands of years ago.
As i thought. Because the NEW Republic has made the Republic from the PT "Old"
I think the idea of the planet funding the Sith Empire. Darth Plagueis was a Muun and a member of the Banking Clan. It would make since for him to discover the planet and set it up to secretly finance the Sith.
This show is fun, out of no where I am fanboy'ing this show to friends. I am struck that the two best Disney era SW shows (IMO) I have initially had no expectations going in. This show, and the other being Andor.
Andor was the worst Star Wars TV show to date 🤷🏼♀️
Did anyone notice how whim’s dad looks like he’s about to do something? Like he’s gonna make a call or go after them or something crazy
Yes, I thought that too. Or that we're going to find out he knows the truth about the Great Work and is some sort of Rebel.
He was the only parent that seemed to understand there was no hope, so.he for sure knows something.
THIS SHOW IS ACTUALLY AMAZING 🎉
I got very Maz Kanata vibes when we first statted Hearing Ky'M and sounded very close. But love the new Avian owl species
I think the biggest clue to the mystery At-Attin is SM33. Peter Pan takes a lot from the Treasure Island books. At-Attin is the treasure island AND Never-Never-Land, it doesn't grow up, the great work is from the Old Republic, the planet missed out on all of the prequel and original histories and I don't think that it's going to touch on Palpatine's return. The Mando verse/Fillioni's franchises i.e. Ashoka(Rebels) is handling the return of Palpatine and Skeleton Crew is a single story that will uncover its own mystery. The show is directed at children (13 and under) and we older fans are along for the ride. The show won't touch on a larger plot lines from the last 15 years like Palps return because it would go over the primary audiences (children) heads because there's too much history to digest that they weren't around for unlike us older fans. It will have a self contained story whenever the show finishes.
SM33 does share some similarities to Sith Introductions in past Star Wars stories, It’s possible a “Peter Pan” like character found At-Attin, and used the treasure plant riches to finance the rise of the rebellion… Capt’n Jack might be a sqaulawage Jedi that got booted from the academy, and now 1st mate Smittee; will make contact with his captain “hand object”, to re-engage their quest for treasure (at-attin), a narrow escape will ensue… leading the kids to a happy return to their rebellion helping parents by Capt’n Jack, and Jack receiving the Black Pearl(or whatever they end up calling the ship the kids found) for his efforts, with the ability to use the planet as a hide out as long as he never tells where it is… (with the captain “hand object”{most likely that other captain guy from that other Star Wars TV show}, in the end credits, shown getting the coordinates to at-attain; for a season 2 setup)…
Maybe we’ll even get an Asoka tie in, that explains how she was financed to help rebuild the republic, as a certain kid is taken to Luke Skywalker to be trained, and Jack gets an offer to visit him while he trains….
There were talks this might replace pirates of the Caribbean at the parks; as a cheaper way to repurpose an old ride, while also launching a kid friendly entry into the disney-verse… This would heavily unify Pirates/peter-pan/star-wars into a single property… with park tie-ins to “star-wars” and update numerous rides in the future…
As a bonus note* it would be really cool if Jack Black and Lizzo some how got thrown into the mix of all this as well!!!
And I like how the show even addresses this to the (viewing) audience through the character Kh'ymm when she says, "Missed the war, did you?" That's letting the audience off the hook and not making the prequel or original trilogy "required viewing"
Great video. Excellent guests, kind & respectful to both the subject and one another.
Agreed 👍
But the first story I've really enjoyed since the Rebels cartoon , I feel invested again. As for age I'm 56 🤣, but I do like Bad Batch but there's no hook. This 👍.
I was never into the original trilogy, the first film was meant to be a one off, but it took off beyond George Lucas expectation. I didn't care for the prequels either. Lucas made it kid friendly with fart jokes and Jar Jar. I got into Star Wars with the Clone Wars animation, then Rebels, and I have been on board since. I have had enough of Jedi, Sith and how Palatine always wins, even when one plan is foiled it works to his benefit. No one is that perfect or always wins every battle.
Loved the episode. Loved all 3. Hyped for the Daniels episode. And Bryces. Point is. Im sold on it. I want the episodes now. I mean, not really. I enjoy the anticipation. I just want as much of this as I can get.
Jude Laws character reminds me of Long John Silver from Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island.
Nice pull. I agree
@@TenheadLife Thank you
Just with the accent, he reminds me more of SM-33 but his personality is more Jude Law
Along that line, it could be argued that:
The boy is Jim Hawkins.
The owl is Dr. Livesey.
The elephant is Squire Trelawny.
The captain is Captain Smollett.
The robot is Ben Gunn.
Just looking at the wikipedia page, I also noticed the following minor character:
Mr. Dance: Chief revenue officer (titled *Supervisor*) who ascends with his men upon the Admiral Benbow, driving out the pirates, and saving Jim Hawkins and his mother. He then takes Hawkins to see the squire and the doctor.
They certainly aren't following the plot of the novel to the letter, so I'm not sure what, if anything, it means, but it's something to keep in mind.
Aye. But who's the parrot and who's Hawkins the cabin boy.
29:27 the other thing about The Mandalorian Seasons 1&2 and Andor, were they were character-driven stories that were free from the baggage of the sequel trilogy. They were both just good, compelling, well-told stories that happened to be taking place in the Star Wars galaxy.
Ryan slipping in Mac and Me 🤣🤣🤣
My theory is that At Attin is kinda like the LOST island. The Republic lost it long ago and it was forgotten about. It has been on autopilot ever since, probably for several generations, but not thousands of years.
Hell yeah! Love seeing Pete on the channel!
“Mac & Me”. I heard that Ryan!! 😂
Crimson Jack is not a force user. He just have an Invisible Parrot. I bet 10,000.00 credits from the old republic on it.
Indeed. The kids act like kids not adult. But I wanted to be the captain!!!
1. The Supervisor is an AI
2. Jod is a former Jedi Youngling expelled prior to Order 66
3. SM-33 killed the ship’s crew
4. Bittersweet ending - Neel and KB stay on At Attin for sake of their families while Wim and Fern venture on
I am not so sure. The planet At Attin is run in a controlled state, people are classed into castes like in Brave New World. I wonder what happens to those that don't make the grade, don't tow the line.
3800 views in the first hour, fans just don’t care about this stuff anymore, unfortunately. Normally I would agree, but this has been the best live action show in my favorite IP’s lore for introducing Starwars to my son. Relatable to him enough for his attention & entertaining enough for me to watch with him. I’m thankful for this show for that reason alone.
I love that they brought back at least a version of Crimson Jack. Some of the first comic books I ever bought as a young kid were a 3 pack of Star Wars 11-13 I think. One of the first post new hope comic books I ever stories with Solo’s old rival Crimson Jack.
They are not talking about the old republic 1000 years ago. They are talking about prequel era. This has been stated by the show runners
Are you sure? Because in the last episode we found out that they had no knowledge about the original movies time period. What makes you think they know about the prequel area Star wars. I most likely connect to the High Republic era. Especially when you consider when the show was written and all the focus on the High republic books back then.
I’m looking for the quote and make sure I didn’t read it wrong 😑
@@joshjones4035they talked about Alderan was asked if they missed the war.
Well the republic before the empire would connect into the high republic area. I was saying it wouldn’t be the revan and Malek era timeline
This show does feel like Star Wars I’m liking it.
Not sure what people mean when they say that. Star Wars universe is nasty, retro tech, horrid town planning, slavery, not enough food for everyone.
Have a feeling Crimson Jack was a Padawan who lost his master or escaped during order 66 as a young kid and ended up being a pirate trying to survive. Another theory I have is Wims dad has rebel connections and is a spy on the planet, that's how he lost his wife and now that Wim is gone he will reach out to them to try and get Wim back that way, which will cause his cover to be blown. I don't see them all going back to the planet now or at least life on the planet being the same after these events.
I really hope that we see Maz Kanata, Since she is a force sensitive pirate.
She doesn't really use the force much.
Elephant meat......"well that escalated quickly " 😂
"Nobody is withholding information for narrative purposes." That was one of the many maddening things about The Acolyte...it was so clearly obvious the writers were just jerking us around instead of telling us a story.
I'm not sure the story is necessarily part of the "big saga" at all, at least not anything critical. Their currency isn't ancient, it's immediately recognizable by the pirates as being "Republic" rather than "Empire" or "New Republic. I don't think At Attin is a "treasure" planet...at least not in pirate terms. I don't think the planet is from the Old Republic, but from the prequel Republic.
I think the fact that this world looks like the product of an "iron HOA" is for a point. It's interesting to note another difference: Droids are not only everywhere, but they also seem to be government-owned. Most of the droids we've seen in Star Wars have been personal possessions. How many human government officials have we seen? Only one, a "supervisor." All other officials or government "employees" have been droids. All positions of social authority, from school teachers to cops to tram drivers are droids. All the humans have vague jobs like "analyst." I think the "Great Work" is just make work to keep the humans occupied. When the one kid said he wanted a job "helping people," he was ridiculed by the droid teacher as well as the other children. They told him droids filled all those roles. That's ominous.
We have an obviously strictly manicured world in which humans have irrelevant roles with all roles of authority filled by droids. Nobody is allowed on or off the world, no starship travel is permitted. Humans exploring the world outside their normal zones are quickly shooed back to their neighborhoods by droids. The world has been so tightly cocooned that the inhabitants don't know anything about the Clone Wars, the fall of the Republic, the Empire or its fall, or the New Republic. They think the prequel Republic still stands. They believe Alderaan still exists. They use currency from the prequel Republic era. For the planet to have been established and then hidden that far back, it can't be a function of the Empire or the New Republic or the First Order.
Actually, this world is very much like Camazotz in "A Wrinkle in Time." The big mystery is how and why such a place exists.
We have heard the term supervisor in Star Wars before! It's an Imperial Security Bureau (ISB) rank. Dedra Meero from Andor is a Supervisor. That definitely makes me think there's an Imperial remnant tie-in.
I think that At-Attin was hidden before the era of Episode 1. That's why they have been untouched by the Clone and Imperial wars. They've been out of the loop for generations.
I wonder why the school system is focused on finance, money and fungibility. The planet looks quite well off. How do they maintain that without contact with the rest of the galaxy?
This is the first starwars show in a bit that I am truly waiting for the next episode with excitement. I haven't hated everything, but I haven't been just dying to see most of it.
I've just been enjoying this show and its vibe. It fits perfectly into Star Wars, feels independent of Skywalkers, maybe holds some deeper meaning to the Old Republic and First Order, which is clever, but I also don't care about that as much as I do for the crew. I have to admire how both this show and Andor can both represent the best of Star Wars and be on complete opposite sides of the spectrum for more casual fans.
JOHN WATTS has already stated that the "old" Republic he refers to is the one right before the Empire, meaning the SW Prequel trilogy time.
That is how I take it. At Attin is in a time warp, but it isn't ancient.
I just want the Supervisor to be a T-Series droid from Clone Wars.
Guys, palpatine was a youth in plagueis, learning to be a mastermind by his master. Being a mastermind before the prequels will break lore, which is respected this time. I think At Attin is more likely to be the treasure chest for the empire/ new order and perhaps finances the whole producing of the last fleet of Thrawn. That will tie in perfectly.
I think her referencing “mirrors” is from a specific tiktok video of Mando on a speeder that looked like it hovered
I appreciate a like some of parts of the new shows but as a whole they’ve all been all over the place with pacing, narrative, and characters. With that being said Andor, Skelton Crew, and the first two seasons of The Mandalorian have been the best Star Wars that we’ve gotten and I would rank them as such. The Skelton Crew just gets it and I think this is how the universe should feel just like this!
😂😂😂 she wasn’t lying about The Jud Law part like bro you taking up these kids screen time hahah. These lil kids are adorable damn I’m getting old haha
I love this interview video where we get honest and intriguing answers from show creators, learn new movie techniques, hints of the seeds that have been planted and hopefully the payoffs will be worth it, lessons learned from the past, and nice reveals!!!
My home planet blown up? F*ck that, I need to kiss my brother. 😂
What are you going to do? Fall into a heap, crying and screaming? She had to go on for the rebellion and for her planet. She wouldn't have given Darth Vader or that grand Moff the satisfaction of seeing her feelings.
The Acolyte was doomed, because they deviated too much from the source material.
No. It wasn't what a lot of the fandom wanted, it didn't fit their biases. And it cost too much. I liked the show just not the woman and children playing the twins.
NEEL NATION WE HERE! 😀
Ad Addin reminds me of the Manhattan Project
My guess is Crimson Jack is a Clone Wars veteran. The way he acted around SM-33 makes it seem like he’s not a fan of droids, and that seems to be a trait of other Clone Wars veterans.
He said they always let you down. The Separatists used droids rather than people.
Pirate reference: "Silvo" reminds me of the character "Long John Silver" whose moral ambiguity is a major plot point of the book Treasure Island. He flip-flops between good guy and bad guy throughout the entire book. In the end, he lands somewhere in between. Treasure Island, BTW, it the original kid on a pirate ship story. I think Jude Law's character will follow that same Long John Silver arc throughout this series.
Spot on with the comparisons to the TV movies. Definitely feel that vibe.
Palpatine has been planning his contingency plans since before ROTJ. It’s addressed in Star Wars Battlefront
It’s not the “old republic” it’s the republic pre empire they refer to. Showrunner said
Wim is Finn Theory is what I’m hoping for 🤷♂️
Came here to imply this. We don't know where this lands in the timeline beyond "post RTJ" so Winn absolutely could end up being Finn ...
The first order only uses humans. why would they have a planet of 1/5 humans, judging by the overall appearances of different species on the planet, saved for use as their army and financial backing? That's a small army and alot of generational prejudice to deal with.
@@captainsnax6699 No one is saying that At Attin was the only source for the army. And they absolutely used other species, just not militarily.
I love it how the young boy is a real “boy”, not afraid and adventurous. Love the show.
I for one will be disappointed if Jude Law's character turns out to be a jedi or sith. Jedi are generally pretty dull, and sith doesn't really make any sense. And it's always driven me nuts that it's always treated as an inevitability that if you're force sensitive, you end up in those 2 camps. If you found yourself having these sweet magic force powers as a kid, what would your first thoughts be? "I must join this chastity bound organization of stuffed shirts as soon as humanly possible", or "I've gotta find a mentor that I must kill, and eventually find an apprentice that will kill me in my sleep." No, you'd want nothing to do with that. You'd want to be your own person with these really cool powers that you'll use for good, ill, or neutral ends. The whole thing of being force sensitive meaning you're going to join one of these 2 groups makes the world seem that much smaller.
If the Jedi and inquisitors didn't seek him out it suggests he may have been with pirates for most of his life.
He cannot be a Jedi. Jedi are a religious order with a strict dogma that take children as babes from their parents. It takes years to go through the monastery and a lot of younglings don't make it. I don't like the Jedi.
I'm loving the show. The mix of goonies among other group of kids movies mixed with pirates and treasure hunting is a lot of fun. The subtle deep lore references also show the creators care about the franchise.
So everyone keeps saying, I have never seen Goonies.
Ah, you had Pete in the seat. Nice!
Loving your breakdowns so much
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I’ve always been fascinated by how the Jedi Order found and trained younglings, and have always speculated that in a huge galaxy it would be impossible to find every force sensitive, and what the life of a non-Jedi force sensitive would look like.
I assume that without training, they wouldn’t be able to maximize their potential, but also would reveal their natural abilities through their lives, and be able to hone their skills by as Jude Law says “practice”.
This is also in a time period without a Jedi Order at all, or a very young rebirthed Skywalker order.
So that would mean that even the most powerful force sensitives would not be trained!
I don’t think, AND severely hope that he has nothing to do with ANY Jedi, so we get a glimpse of a powerful force sensitive that never had the chance to be trained, just making their way through the galaxy without guidance!
I LOVE IT!
Fascinating!
I don't care. I will die on this hill. The Ewoks movies from the 80's were good! The first one "The Ewok Movie/Caravan of Courage" is the better of the two, but Battle for Endor is fun because it was the first introduction to witches in the Star Wars universe and it also featured a heroic Wilfred Brimley as a hermit who just randomly lived on Endor. I was 6 - 8 years old when they originally aired, but my mom recorded them both from tv on a VHS tape and I watched them all the time.
No need to die on any hill hoisting your flag. Never seen the Ewok movies. It is hard for me to get too investing in teddy bear look a likes or walking carpets or any of the cute furry creatures. Wilfred Brimley was a good actor.
Definitely going to be a pirate founded planet calling it now Ryan
I'm enjoying the show but I told my son to hold off & binge watch it over the holiday break.
Ex Inquisitor, Crimson Jack, Maybe?
I like the theory that At-Attin may be Star Killer Base
As a kid I loved caravan of courage.. that to me was a great show. I really liked it.
The end of Episode 3 tells me there might little chance for a happy return for those kids - the dad looks like he's about to do something stupid after the droid told the parents nothing could be done because the kids were outside the barrier.
Crimson Jack Silvo is an obvious reference to Long John Silver. Silver played the long game but was a baddie in the end.
You know, I just realized that 33 isn't saying he doesn't know where At Attin is. He is saying he can't say.
Of course, now that I watched the current episode...
He will find the planet and then keep it secret to protect the kids.
I think the only one thing bothering me in the show. Wouldn’t starship’s have some sort of history of where it’s been? I realize the show would just be over if they looked but they could at least explain the data was corrupted or something.
Like check the ships log and press reverse. Done. AtAttin. Welcome back. Byeeee
Don't you think the Captain would have deleted it.
@ yes except there should be a record of where they left from. Which is At Attin. But having seen the last episode the droid probably deleted it as soon as they arrived since he had a standing order to hide all knowledge of the planet.
The Acolyte had some interesting ideas and characters, it just had too many issues in how it told the story. It might have worked better as a tv movie.
So something that has reaaaallly been bothering me is the way SM-33 emphasized the “Aye” after Ja asked if the kids were really from At Attin when EVERY time before that when someone asks about At Attin he says “Can’t so I know of any At Attin”. Considering in episode 1 or 2 we saw Fern overwrite her house droid to lie for her. It makes me wonder what the previous captains last orders were to SM-33 before he went into stasis.
I really enjoy the show. When the 3rd episode ended I found myself saying “Nooooo! I don’t want to wait another week!”
There are some subtle things happening that I am curious about. What medical issues does KB have? Her parents were talking about them. When Wim jumped into the gunner station, he actually got a good shot off. Was that by chance or is he using the force … like Anakin podracing.
What happened to Wim’s mom? She read stories to him and he carries those with him. Was it a way for her to teach him about the force because she also was force sensitive? Is that why his father looked so distraught? What does he know? Why was it a big deal to Neel that he said he basically wanted to be a Jedi?
At the end of this , will Neel talk to the classmate he has feelings for?
Maybe the entire planet is controlled by droids and the Supervisor is a droid?
Out of left field idea … could Jod be Korkie Kryze?
I know you’ve mentioned goonies countless times and I definitely agree. However there’s another great work that it reminds me of and that is Robert Louis Stevenson’s Treasure Island
If this planet is a first order planet, they could have made the kids a little older and the main character could have been Finn, who then becomes a first order trooper, who then realizes he is on the wrong side and of course yields a lightsaber like he wanted in the sequel movies
I hope he is a super-powerful Jedi like Baylan Skoll. He is laying low so he doesn't get hunted. He has a complex agenda like Baylon...
So good to see SW doing what Marvel started to do and branch out into different genres set in their universe.
I think the "treasure" of At-Attan is the suburban family life.
His bands biggest hit was "Wolf like Me" Perhaps a coincidence that one of the main antagonist is a basically a wolf.
A were wolf.
This is treasure planet. I have zero doubt that At Attin is the fort knox of the old republic/empire and it was hidden to protect it and keep it out of the general galaxies reach.
I’m loving the show. My only complaint is that it’s so dark. Before I watch an episode I gotta spent like 5 min adjusting my tv so I can see what’s going on. Am I the only one?
Get a new TV set.
At Attin skyline mirrors part of Berlin with the TV tower and international trade centre there
So much yes!
Took some fatigue to really dig out some treasures. This and Agatha are this year's gems.
Great analysis and great show👏
Has anyone suggested a parallel between At Attin’s cult like Great Work and the Jedi’s own indoctrination of young children? Jod may be a former Jedi youngling who left years before Order 66, bridling at the Order’s restrictions in a way not dissimilar to how Wim’s adventurous nature grates against the oppressiveness of his home world
The first episodes felt like a Disney show with some StarWars flavour
Skeleton Crew
In Skeleton Crew episode 3, right before they meet up with Kh'ymm, she sounded like she was talking to another woman, confirming Crimson Jack's identity. It sounded like Emilia Clark. I'm hoping Qi'ra and the rest of Crimson Dawn is in this series.
I enjoy the Skeleton crew. It's more child friendly, but I don't mind that.
My theory is that At Attin is a financial planet, supervisor could report to a specific Muun head of a banking clan…
Mac & Me 😂 10:37
I feel like that the star wars major tom song is like binks sake from one piece, because fans theorized that it involes treasure
Would it be interesting where we have this At Attin, the fable Old/High Republic planet as a battleground where everybody from different eras from prequels, originals, the Mandoverse, and upcoming sequels fight against Thrawn’s forces while figuring out he’s distracting them from The First Order?
My theory since the first episode was that the great work and at -attin will be the future first order
My (doomed) theory is that At Attin is a skunkworks - akin to Los Almost during the Manhattan Project. Like the Project, there's a Great Work being pursued and an on-site community for the workers and their families. It exists in a constant state of high security as these things do - isolated from the outside world. And because some know that it exists but not what goes on behind the secretive world inside the barrier... rumors form. Groom Lake has captured aliens - so the stories go. And At Attin is an eternal treasure planet.