I never knew the Aladdin lamps existed until I cleaned out my grandma’s attic. Bought new wick and chimney for it (company still exists found on internet). Fantastic lamp and good source of heat when power goes out in the winter!
Great video. Finally someone on UA-cam that truly knows about lanterns. I’ve used lanterns for years and have recently seen some video by people who really don’t know what they are talking about. Well done and informative video.
we used to cut our oil lamp wicks (the middle one in your vid) in a V shape so that it had 2 points, gives more light, we also used to cook on top of coleman lanterns, made a cook top out of a coffee CAN (the old metal ones) they fit right on top, you punch holes around the outside edge with a can opener and put a coffee pot or a pressed steel frypan on top, and you can cook....
I'm going to get one of those Aladdin Genie III Oil Lamps from Lehmans for $165.99, this video convinced me. In fact at least one or more for each room big enough to need one. About survival and not letting people know where you are, that lessor regular wick oil lamp is best for that. Tonight high winds took the power off for over an hour, I fired mine up to max brightness with a freshly cleaned globe and it was setting on top of my closed laptop on the ĉoffee table in my living room, top of lamp about 3 feet off the floor. As there was no street lights or anything burning outside, just dark clouds and wind, I went outside for awhile. While I was standing in the road, about 25 feet from the living room window, I looked and I could detect zero light from the road. In fact, the only way I could see any light was within a few feet from my window, and it was the faintest yellowish glow. Just enough light in the room to be able to move around, but not enough anyone passing by from the road would ever pick up on unless they were running NVG's. So this is just something to think about, and by the way, my walls in this room are dark, 2 shades of blue, I imagine brightly painted walls would be a bit more detectable, but that can be fixed with curtains are by turning the lamp down some, but I'm not using curtains, this allows me to be able to look out. For inside I would go with a regular oil lamp and an Aladdin in each room, but only use the latter if the shtf sparingly. This is just something for you people reading this to think about, sometimes less is better. You could put that little oil lamp in the opposite corner from the fron't door, and hide in the dark corner with a gun, when they walk in without a light you would see them, they wouldn't see you, just the gunshot, too late. I can sit on my couch and see both my fron't door, and my kitchen door at the same time with just moving my eyes, a small oil lamp near each door would cover me. I don't have a back door, just fron't and side. Play around with it, might save your life one day.
Duel fuel update I found that you can run klean heat or alcohol just fine, running klean heat allows for using all 3 types of lamps/lanterns with one source of fuel.
I had an Aladdin lamp in my cabin in the WV mountains in the 70's. A wonderful lamp, but very delicate. We learned the best use was to hang it in a permanent place and move it as little as possible, then we would get over a year out of a mantel - I never used one up, they always broke first. I highly recamend them as a bed side lamp.
+WestonSummers Thank You Weston. I bought my lamp new in about 1972, aluminum (I couldn't afford the brass model at the time, I now wish I could have) I then ordered the aluminum hanger kit with smoke diffuser and made a heavy wire shade frame and covered it with burlap from a feed sack. It hangs in my house now, although I haven't used it since the last hurricane here in Florida. I took a photo of it but don't know how or if you can post it on UA-cam. If your interested, send me an email and I will send it to you. samcanoes@yahoo.com Thanks, Sam
One of the big things I don't think you covered is the CO output. They all put out a bit of CO, but the Coleman puts out a very significant amount compared to the other two, which is enough to kill you. I'd never run a Coleman indoors, especially the dual fuel kind.
Thanks for this video. Very well put together. I've been keeping an Aladdin in storage for the last couple decades or more. Never got around to messing with it so seeing you fire one up next to the Coleman was very interesting. I knew it was supposed to be bright but seeing the three put it in perspective. Seems two mantles vs one might give an advantage? Notsure. Probably not really an issue. Anyway, you've inspired us to get out the Aladdin and do our homework. Love this stuff. Thanks again!
Living in the Texas Hill Country, this subject matters. We have the same exact lanterns and I had the same question. Thanks for posting this. I am burning Jet A (JP5) in the lanterns, since the airport is closer than the city.
My grandpa had an Aladdin lamp and several oil lamps and my mom had several oil lamps I was surprised how bright the Aladdin lamp was it’s like a light bulb. But it needed quite a bit of maintenance from what I remember.
Single Coleman lanterns are not nearly as bright as 2 mantel ones. I have the Coleman 800 dual Fuel and love the amount of light while camping, I get a bit nervous while camping in bear country, I’ve had some close encounters. Thanks for a fantastic video.
Nice review. Thank you kindly. I live in an earthquake zone and my heart would break to find an Aladdin in pieces on the floor. I made snap hooks to retain my Deitz lanterns on their rods hanging from the rafters in my open beam ceiling. I worry less but the one converted to LED's is probably the safest! Also have a Coleman 200A single mantle pressure KEROSENE lantern. Nice and bright. I will have light when nobody else does.
@@user-by7hj4dj9s I found a brand new Aladdin lamp with a spring mounted arm that is bolted to the wall. Its all aluminum and was intended to be used in passenger trains. It was a very lucky find. Now I wish I had a cabin!
I was hoping I could use Olive Oil in a lamp like the one on the left cause I heard Olive Oil is safer. I have one. I guess I have to use Mason Jars for Olive Oil Lamps. Thanks so much for this video. Excellent video. New Subscriber.
I liked your vid and I have used all three. However, as of lately, I use only the Rayo lamps, they are just as bright as the Aladin and as durable as the oil lamp. You can burn about anything liquid in them, I have used diesel, kerosene,lamp oil and I have even heard of people burning jet fuel. Of course all the center blast lamps are hot and that huge round wick goes through fuel lickety split but if you need light I think they are the only way.
You are a gem and yes I agree you have a pretty face. Ha Ha You have very organized thought pattern and speech. One of the better presentations I have ever seen ...and not just lamps. Thanks so much I learned alot looking to purchase an Alladin and have used the other two quite a bit. I like your accent North Carolina ? Thanks so much. all the best from Canada.. Subbed and hit the alarm
Thank you, thank you very much for this video. Does the Coleman give out a lot of petrol fumes/smell when burning indoors please? Might you think I should invest in an Aladdin lamp or a Coleman dual fuel lamp for use in the house if and when the power happens to go out please? Thank you kindlyand many happy greetings. Nara (from Launceston, Tasmania)
I got the B and the 23 model. On the walmart '' lamp oil'' there is no smell whatsoever. Also on K1 there is no smell. Now, right after changing the wick on the 23 model I pick up a little smell. Looks like I have to run it a few hours to get rid of the smell. If you turn the flame to high, then you will get kerosene odors.The coleman smells more like car exhaust to me.
I've been using an all aluminum Genie 3 style lamp for over 40 years. I have used regular kerosene in my lamp with no issues. After moving to the EU I have been using paraffin oil with zero issues. This comes recommend by Pelam in Germany who has parts for the Aladin line of lamps as well as Petromax and regular oil lamps. I have had the best results with paraffin oil with very little odor in a closed home and the only type of kerosene available here in Greece has a green dye added and is made by Kerosun and sold as fuel for their heaters. Aladin does not recommend their fuel for the Aladin lamps. My next mod to the Aladin is to order a plain glass Aladin shade an harp to help cut the glare of the lamp.
GREAT video, first of all, and thanks for putting it together. I own an Aladdin Genie, some normal wick oil lamps, and a Coleman, albeit propane lantern, and I'd say you're spot on everything. I've begun to look at things from a "preppers" standpoint and happened to come across your video and wanted to see someone else's take on some things I was considering as far as lighting, fuel, wicks, etc... I thought it to be well put together and a great comparison as to the available fuels vs light output vs various wick designs. Thanks again.
The only thing I was hoping you would cover that you didn’t was lighting each of them. Since they each have a different lighting process and accessing the wick/mantel can be more or less cumbersome for a new user.
An Aladdin's Magic Lamp gives more light (lumens) than a Coleman Powerhouse Lantern (I own both) and uses FAR less fuel per hour (even considering kerosene has almost double the energy per gallon as naptha or Coleman fuel) and is FAR SAFER as it isn't pressurized. I own an Aladdin Lincoln Drape Green (antique) and a Wall pivot brass font Aladdin (modern) for emergencies. They are rated at 2200 lumens or equal to a 200 watt incandescent light bulb, but my $600 photographic light meter shows they both output nearly 3000 lumens when adjusted properly. The Coleman Powerhouse Lantern outputs less than 2000 lumens with a Coleman reflector on it.
Weston, you really have an outstanding video here! Thanks for being so thorough. I live in rural Mexico, and the only fuel I could easily find around here would be for the oil lamp. My question is this: I need a lamp for heat, not light. I have a room that is 15'x15'. And the temperatures at night get around 50 degrees or so. If I was burning two of oil lamps (hurricane lanterns are easy to find here) would I be able to heat the room up by 10 degrees in an hour or two? What do you think?? And thanks for your kind response, Weston!
You need to pump up the pressure lantern more often than once every couple hours. It's kind of a pain, but you get good light from it when it's pressurized. 4th alternative is a propane lantern. It's also loud like the white-gas pressure lantern, but it runs full-on until you turn it off or it runs out of gas. When I camped for weeks on end, I ran a hose from a 20-lb propane tank, and I could forget about it for 2 or 3 weeks, and that's staying up late playing camp chess.
Our coleman lantern will burn all night outside without pumping up pressure. The light gets lower, but still provides plenty of light until morning when we shut it off.
Just wondering, on the Colman dual fuel, are you able to run a cooking oil out of them or do you need the fumes from the required fuel to make them run? Have you or anyone tried to see if they could get the Colman to run off of some type of cooking oil? Nice video, thanks for sharing and taking the time. Peace, Reese
I doubt a cooking oil would work, it is much too viscous. Possibly a much lighter oil like 3 in 1, but even that is very doubtful. These Colemans usually use something called White Gas which is mostly Naptha. Dual Fuel Colemans can use gasoline also, but neither white gas or gasoline is very oil-like. I cant say anything for certain because I wont risk damage to my Dual Fuel to test oils, haha
Mo -Reese's Pieces you’d be ruining the generator. In fact you want to use unleaded gas only in emergencies or if you don’t mind cleaning the generator often. Best to use white gas, crown is way cheaper than Coleman fuel .
Just purchased my first Aladdin lamp. Completely ruined the mantle and did some damage to the wick. Got a new mantle and got a new wick but the flame is not symmetrical. In some spots there is almost no flame and in others quite a large flame. Lamp runs but at low power and I get dark spots on the mantle if I turn it up much at all. I’m running kerosene. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks
It's worth noting the Coleman will burn E85 just fine. I have tried it personally. I'd just recommend flushing it with white gas before storage to prevent moisture and rust issues.
Very good video to show the differences. A little bit of light. Decent light with 5,00 BTU and a lot of light and more heat, Be aware of the dangers of using them indoors. Is there a replacement for the Aladdin mantel without replacing the entire assembly?
No. Even "light" crude oil is many times "thicker" than any of these lanterns can manage. Kerosene (up to and including "liquid paraffin"), naphtha, and "white" gasoline are the fuels which work. Diesel fuel will also work, but it will make your living space smell like a truck stop. If what you intend to use is less than transparent or has much color, it will be unsuitable for use in these devices.
If your talking shft, then if your really motivated you can distill crude to a diesel. Don't think any of us will be doing that, but its not that far out a idea. In africa they have clandestine fuel making operations that are very sketchy distilling crude into diesel over fire pits and using 55 gallon steel drums lol. But still, I dont have any idea if diesel would be refined enought to be usable in either the alladin or colman lantern. Wick one would work fine I imagine.
As you're talking about noise, i can hear that coleman hissing away the whole time. Good if you need noise to sleep. Some people want noise like running a fan, etc... The Hurricane Oil Lamp is the BEST choice hands down. Cheap. Multiple fuels, quite... And very portable.
Brian Mccann You don't want to run an Aladdin dry while you sleep or run one while you sleep. When Aladdins run out of fuel the wick smolders down and will be ruined. Also, then "can" flare if theres a malfunction and burn your house down. Never run one unattended.
....... Probably only our local lexicon but one of em was called a hurricane lantern , I always thought that was the pressure lantern cos of the roar , but others reckon it's the fourth one you held up that's called a hurricane lantern . Always amuses me how in western movies that all the strong light in the room is attributed to the kerosene wick lanterns. Sure , the Aladdin has a chimney flue to create air feed draught for a hotter flame. The mantles need a temperature just a little higher than what a non flue wick can provide and the alladin does the job. ..In the hippy era there was a little lightweight metal foil attachment that fitted around the wick to spread the flame and increase light output . The mantle as invented by Swedish chemist in 1860s was the first exploitation of the lanthanides or rare earth metals. Along with the reliable utility gas distribution those mantle lights persisted till the 1940s as household lighting in some regions . A sturdier type of mantle was used .
an oil lamp is a different beast and it usually is not using any draft like a kerosene lamp. for oil lamps a few different variations on the designs exist but most keep the fuel and burning end of the wick within an inch of each other at the most, some let the flame directly touch the oil.
Don't forget that some hardware stores sell generic white gas which is cheaper than Coleman brand white gas and there's also some other type of fuel that you can use in them that is also sold in some hardware stores, I don't remember the name, but it's not unleaded gasoline.
Leaded gas can be used in regular Coleman lamps, have both types, but generator will carbon up the expansion tube and it can be cleaned out with a 22 caliber brass rifle bore brush, no need to discard them. I do have regular Coleman fuel. Yellow kerosene (drives bugs out of the house) works well in Aladdin lamps and stoves if used every night for hours at a time, 9 days after an ice storm here but I have #1 kerosene as well. I have a Rayo kerosene lamp, no mantel but its system allows unusually brighter light than wick lamps. STA-BIL brand fuel additive for kerosene will prevent bacteria from growing if kerosene is kept for many years. I bought a Coleman kerosene pump-up lantern when on sale, prefer kerosene inside for safety, gasoline is best used outside for fire safety and to avoid carbon monoxide gas in closed spaces such as tight winter tents. I have two grain alcohol stoves, no moving parts, easier and sturdier than the homemade ones on You Tube, produces carbon monoxide as well. I keep a large number of LED flashlights as well as lamps. I question using non-ethanol gas, harder to find, as useful in Coleman's and what is the problem there?
I got 2 of those regular oil lamps and 1 tank last about 10 hours, The Walmart el cheapo storm lantern for about $7 last about 13 hours on one tank. I got the Aladdin B and 23 model and I love them both. If you do not want smell, then the Aladdin is the one to use. You forgot to mention fume smell while operating.
My stupid oil lamps keeps burning the wick to …ASHES ….so I bought NEW WICKS &&& same issue … new wicks new oil … turns to ashes… what is going on ?🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
The burning of any hydrocarbon fuel produces CO (carbon monoxide) among other combustion products. There is no such thing as a non-toxic dose. Obviously, high doses are deadly; but, even low doses can produce measurable harm. The literature with pressure lamps like Coleman products states that they are not to be used indoors (at least it did the last time I read it). I don't know what Aladdin's literature states and wonder whether it would ever say that their products ARE safe to use indoors.
I think you need to cover the cirkular burners of the non mantel lamps too. While of course not as bright as a mantel lamp the 14''' Kosmos or the 20''' Ideal are very bright none the less. The 20''' Ideal gives about 5-700 watt of heat so about half of an Alladin and it lights up about as much as a 20w bulb of the old non halogen type. The 14''' Kosmos a tad less but still very bright. For more cozy use I'll recommend a 10''' Kosmos. A perfect balance between light, heat and fuel consumption. Btw. I run them on fuel intended for Zibro type heaters as it's the cheapest here. Don't have access to jet fuel even though most of the so called heater fuel, lamp oil, smell less kerosene is in reality jet fuel. I've tried both the cheapest and the most expensive heater fuel and various lamp oils. No significant difference. The verdict - get whatever kerosene cheapest even though it may be called something else like lamp oil or firestarting liquid or whatever as long as it's non colored or you live in a place where you still get the old fashioned smelly kerosene.
HifiCentret Jet fuel will kill you! It has anti freeze and anti gel to keep fuel lines from clogging at altitude. If you're getting enough ventilation you might not get poisoned outright but you will end up with lung cancer or something like that some years down the road
+booobtooober Thanks for clarifying. Jet fuel before the additives ;) Kerosene today is a little different from the old days. It depends on the specific length of molecules it's composed of. Nothing that really matters for most uses though. Still (for Denmark at least and probably most of Europe too) I recommend the stuff for use in heaters (the kind also for indoor use). It's at least as clean, cheaper and often better than the so called lamp oil in smaller bottles and you're pretty sure not to get some that has been cooking in the sun for a long time as there's a flow of it while the smaller bottles you can be unlucky to get and old UV exposed one that has avoided being sold for a long time. Of the smaller 1L bottles I've had a few duds which almost refused to work in a 14''' Kosmos (only very low flame) and a little better but still very poor in a 15''' Matador and a 20''' Ideal all eating wick quite fast. Let it run on very low (no eating then) to use the fuel to avoid having delivering it to the recycle station as I don't have a grill to use it to fire that up or other non critical purpose. Trimmed wick and put in the heater fuel instead. What a difference. Zero wick eating and able to turn them up very high without smoke. Most likely there's better quality control on the heater fuel too as it's made to be burnt in larger quantities.
I have an aladin lamp and I have walked through the house with it burning, nothing happened to it Also I have an antique regular oil lamp and it lights up my entire room to be able to comfortably read almost anywhere
The oil lamp you held up for a few seconds: "the one you would see in the old times, you would see somebody carrying through the woods"; what brand of that type lamp would you recommend? I want one to hang out on my cabin porch at night when I am alone and have to take my dog out or go to the out house. Would you consider it a good choice or something else? What would you recommend?
It would be an excellent choice! I use mine on the cabin porch all the time. I have taken one camping so many times we have lost count. My suggestion would be one from the Wally World camping section. They usually have green or red choices and they work just fine for the price. Look for bad bends or dents and you should be fine. Thanks for the comment. Weston
+Marilyn Hall I have a collection of the old fashioned Dietz lanterns and burn them often. The best overall to me is the Dietz No.8 Air Pilot as it has a big fuel font, big wick, and burns well. Lehmans and WT Kirkman sell them on line. You can order the brass burner and hardware for several dollars more and they will last many years. The Dietz 2500 Jupiter is also the biggest, widest and is very user friendly. The Wally World lanterns are cheaper, smaller, and have a wick about half as wide as the bigger Dietz lanterns so the light output is lower. But the taller glass in them seems to reflect light a little better. The Dietz 2500 was $25, $16 for the #8 Air Pilot, and the Wally ones were $10 or so. The Wally World ones are a copy of the Dietz Junior. My coolest ''toy'' is the tiny Japanese made Winged Wheel 350 that is 7'' tall and its glass is tennis ball sized. It lights the way to the (indoor) bathroom and not much else. Its lit right now and has cedar oil added to Klean Heat to make the room smell nice. Dietz No. 8 Air Pilot would be a great choice for the porch. Take care to fill the font 1/2 full as these kinds of lanterns leak from the air tubes when overfilled and it looks like the base is leaking. Good luck.
I got an black small el cheapo hurricane lamp from walmart, can't remember how much it was. About maybe $7. It will run 13 hours on one full tank of fuel. It has about the light output of an candle. It works.
nice video first time I've ever seen one of those Genie Light lamp 3 can you tell a guy where you can buy one of those I like it it's like having a 60 watt bulb of light I bet they make one of those with a shade too that look really nice I want to buy one I'm living right in the middle of town big city off grid I've been getting away with it for two years no water no electricity no gas I use propane battery Banks for my phone and I buy bottled water for my dog to drink at the store I don't pay utilities I make a house payment 565 a month that's my total cost of living
All three of these emit a Carbonmonoxide gas. However simple gentle venting will prevent you ever having problems. As the video stats your not likely to burn them for more then a few hours. So your safe.
The one you're holding up and swinging around is not a lamp, it's a lantern. The white gas one is allso a lantern because it has a handle to be carried around.
If you want a multi fuel lantern, you could look into BriteLyt. They are very expensive but can run on most flammable liquids. The Dual Fuel is only meant for Camp Fuel and Gasoline. Even if you somehow did get other fuels to work in it, it might not be safe to do so.
I never knew the Aladdin lamps existed until I cleaned out my grandma’s attic. Bought new wick and chimney for it (company still exists found on internet). Fantastic lamp and good source of heat when power goes out in the winter!
Great video. Finally someone on UA-cam that truly knows about lanterns. I’ve used lanterns for years and have recently seen some video by people who really don’t know what they are talking about. Well done and informative video.
we used to cut our oil lamp wicks (the middle one in your vid) in a V shape so that it had 2 points, gives more light, we also used to cook on top of coleman lanterns, made a cook top out of a coffee CAN (the old metal ones) they fit right on top, you punch holes around the outside edge with a can opener and put a coffee pot or a pressed steel frypan on top, and you can cook....
+Rob Aldridge Awesome! And they actually make some lanterns made specifically to cook on. Great survival items for sure.
Man you really gave a ton of information in this video, great job sharing your knowledge.
My wife just inherited and restored two Alladin lamps. They are great. Nice video
I'm going to get one of those Aladdin Genie III Oil Lamps from Lehmans for $165.99, this video convinced me. In fact at least one or more for each room big enough to need one.
About survival and not letting people know where you are, that lessor regular wick oil lamp is best for that. Tonight high winds took the power off for over an hour, I fired mine up to max brightness with a freshly cleaned globe and it was setting on top of my closed laptop on the ĉoffee table in my living room, top of lamp about 3 feet off the floor.
As there was no street lights or anything burning outside, just dark clouds and wind, I went outside for awhile. While I was standing in the road, about 25 feet from the living room window, I looked and I could detect zero light from the road. In fact, the only way I could see any light was within a few feet from my window, and it was the faintest yellowish glow.
Just enough light in the room to be able to move around, but not enough anyone passing by from the road would ever pick up on unless they were running NVG's. So this is just something to think about, and by the way, my walls in this room are dark, 2 shades of blue, I imagine brightly painted walls would be a bit more detectable, but that can be fixed with curtains are by turning the lamp down some, but I'm not using curtains, this allows me to be able to look out.
For inside I would go with a regular oil lamp and an Aladdin in each room, but only use the latter if the shtf sparingly. This is just something for you people reading this to think about, sometimes less is better. You could put that little oil lamp in the opposite corner from the fron't door, and hide in the dark corner with a gun, when they walk in without a light you would see them, they wouldn't see you, just the gunshot, too late. I can sit on my couch and see both my fron't door, and my kitchen door at the same time with just moving my eyes, a small oil lamp near each door would cover me. I don't have a back door, just fron't and side.
Play around with it, might save your life one day.
Duel fuel update I found that you can run klean heat or alcohol just fine, running klean heat allows for using all 3 types of lamps/lanterns with one source of fuel.
I had an Aladdin lamp in my cabin in the WV mountains in the 70's. A wonderful lamp, but very delicate. We learned the best use was to hang it in a permanent place and move it as little as possible, then we would get over a year out of a mantel - I never used one up, they always broke first. I highly recamend them as a bed side lamp.
+sam Tollefson That is probably a very smart move! I try and keep mine stationary also. They are awesome machines for sure.
+WestonSummers Thank You Weston. I bought my lamp new in about 1972, aluminum (I couldn't afford the brass model at the time, I now wish I could have) I then ordered the aluminum hanger kit with smoke diffuser and made a heavy wire shade frame and covered it with burlap from a feed sack. It hangs in my house now, although I haven't used it since the last hurricane here in Florida. I took a photo of it but don't know how or if you can post it on UA-cam. If your interested, send me an email and I will send it to you.
samcanoes@yahoo.com Thanks, Sam
+sam Tollefson WestonSummers89@gmail.com. :)
One of the big things I don't think you covered is the CO output. They all put out a bit of CO, but the Coleman puts out a very significant amount compared to the other two, which is enough to kill you. I'd never run a Coleman indoors, especially the dual fuel kind.
I have a Dietz 76, and found it puts out a solid bright light, and in pitch darkness I found it throws a good deal of light
Precise, concise, and to the point. Many thanks!
i think this video for information on these lamps is the best i had seen so far.
VERY informative video! Thank you! I learned a lot about oil lamps in these short 16 minutes.
Thanks for this video. Very well put together. I've been keeping an Aladdin in storage for the last couple decades or more. Never got around to messing with it so seeing you fire one up next to the Coleman was very interesting. I knew it was supposed to be bright but seeing the three put it in perspective. Seems two mantles vs one might give an advantage? Notsure. Probably not really an issue. Anyway, you've inspired us to get out the Aladdin and do our homework. Love this stuff. Thanks again!
my reaction to seeing the Coleman and the Aladdin is the Coleman don't spread light up only out to the sides
Thanks for the tutorial.
I've been itching to get an Aladdin for a year or so.
You're the only one that's answered a couple of my questions.
Thanks
Great video there are a handful of Aladdin lamps at a local antique store I’ve been looking at
Living in the Texas Hill Country, this subject matters. We have the same exact lanterns and I had the same question. Thanks for posting this. I am burning Jet A (JP5) in the lanterns, since the airport is closer than the city.
I feel you are a very good teacher, and a lot of good information. thankyou
My grandpa had an Aladdin lamp and several oil lamps and my mom had several oil lamps I was surprised how bright the Aladdin lamp was it’s like a light bulb. But it needed quite a bit of maintenance from what I remember.
Single Coleman lanterns are not nearly as bright as 2 mantel ones. I have the Coleman 800 dual Fuel and love the amount of light while camping, I get a bit nervous while camping in bear country, I’ve had some close encounters. Thanks for a fantastic video.
Great video. Thanks for all the information and the reviews. You did a really good job. It was enjoyable to watch.
Nice review. Thank you kindly.
I live in an earthquake zone and my heart would break to find an Aladdin in pieces on the floor. I made snap hooks to retain my Deitz lanterns on their rods hanging from the rafters in my open beam ceiling. I worry less but the one converted to LED's is probably the safest! Also have a Coleman 200A single mantle pressure KEROSENE lantern. Nice and bright. I will have light when nobody else does.
in our cabin we have an Aladdin hanging form the ceiling. not sure if the chimney would fall off in an earthquake. they are pretty secure
@@user-by7hj4dj9s I found a brand new Aladdin lamp with a spring mounted arm that is bolted to the wall. Its all aluminum and was intended to be used in passenger trains. It was a very lucky find. Now I wish I had a cabin!
I keep seeing those Blizzard lanterns with green paint and brass trim on videos, but I don't see them for sale anywhere.
Try Lehman's: www[dot]lehmans[dot]com
lee valley sells them too
I was hoping I could use Olive Oil in a lamp like the one on the left cause I heard Olive Oil is safer. I have one. I guess I have to use Mason Jars for Olive Oil Lamps. Thanks so much for this video. Excellent video. New Subscriber.
I think you will find me quite interesting as well.
I liked your vid and I have used all three. However, as of lately, I use only the Rayo lamps, they are just as bright as the Aladin and as durable as the oil lamp. You can burn about anything liquid in them, I have used diesel, kerosene,lamp oil and I have even heard of people burning jet fuel. Of course all the center blast lamps are hot and that huge round wick goes through fuel lickety split but if you need light I think they are the only way.
You are a gem and yes I agree you have a pretty face. Ha Ha You have very organized thought pattern and speech. One of the better presentations I have ever seen ...and not just lamps. Thanks so much I learned alot looking to purchase an Alladin and have used the other two quite a bit. I like your accent North Carolina ? Thanks so much. all the best from Canada.. Subbed and hit the alarm
Thank you, thank you very much for this video.
Does the Coleman give out a lot of petrol fumes/smell when burning indoors please?
Might you think I should invest in an Aladdin lamp or a Coleman dual fuel lamp for use in the house if and when the power happens to go out please?
Thank you kindlyand many happy greetings.
Nara (from Launceston, Tasmania)
The Aladdin is a good looking lamp !
Good job on the comparisons! One thing missing... Smell? How would you compare the odors? Thanks, ....Rich
It mostly depends on what fuel you are using.
I got the B and the 23 model.
On the walmart '' lamp oil'' there is no smell whatsoever. Also on K1 there is no smell.
Now, right after changing the wick on the 23 model I pick up a little smell. Looks like I have to run it a few hours to get rid of the smell. If you turn the flame to high, then you will get kerosene odors.The coleman smells more like car exhaust to me.
I've been using an all aluminum Genie 3 style lamp for over 40 years. I have used regular kerosene in my lamp with no issues. After moving to the EU I have been using paraffin oil with zero issues. This comes recommend by Pelam in Germany who has parts for the Aladin line of lamps as well as Petromax and regular oil lamps. I have had the best results with paraffin oil with very little odor in a closed home and the only type of kerosene available here in Greece has a green dye added and is made by Kerosun and sold as fuel for their heaters. Aladin does not recommend their fuel for the Aladin lamps. My next mod to the Aladin is to order a plain glass Aladin shade an harp to help cut the glare of the lamp.
Amazing video. Shame you stopped here. Would like to see more
An interesting experiment would be to try mounting am Aladdin mantle on a standard flat Wick lantern, and see if it works, might be a neat video.
GREAT video, first of all, and thanks for putting it together. I own an Aladdin Genie, some normal wick oil lamps, and a Coleman, albeit propane lantern, and I'd say you're spot on everything. I've begun to look at things from a "preppers" standpoint and happened to come across your video and wanted to see someone else's take on some things I was considering as far as lighting, fuel, wicks, etc... I thought it to be well put together and a great comparison as to the available fuels vs light output vs various wick designs. Thanks again.
Outstanding review and info. I learned so much from this. Thank you!
Dude, i hope you're in sales somewhere!
how do you put out the aladdin if you cant get above it because of the heat?
The only thing I was hoping you would cover that you didn’t was lighting each of them. Since they each have a different lighting process and accessing the wick/mantel can be more or less cumbersome for a new user.
Nice vid, very useful. 1st time seeing an Aladdin in use.
5:38 We call it the "Hurricane Lamp" runs on kerosene.
Good explanation man !
An Aladdin's Magic Lamp gives more light (lumens) than a Coleman Powerhouse Lantern (I own both) and uses FAR less fuel per hour (even considering kerosene has almost double the energy per gallon as naptha or Coleman fuel) and is FAR SAFER as it isn't pressurized. I own an Aladdin Lincoln Drape Green (antique) and a Wall pivot brass font Aladdin (modern) for emergencies. They are rated at 2200 lumens or equal to a 200 watt incandescent light bulb, but my $600 photographic light meter shows they both output nearly 3000 lumens when adjusted properly. The Coleman Powerhouse Lantern outputs less than 2000 lumens with a Coleman reflector on it.
I used paraffin oil in my Aladdin 23. It seemed to work fine. Is that okay to continue using regular oil lamp oil in the Aladdin?
A very good educational video with alot of information. Well done !!!
Weston, you really have an outstanding video here! Thanks for being so thorough. I live in rural Mexico, and the only fuel I could easily find around here would be for the oil lamp. My question is this: I need a lamp for heat, not light. I have a room that is 15'x15'. And the temperatures at night get around 50 degrees or so. If I was burning two of oil lamps (hurricane lanterns are easy to find here) would I be able to heat the room up by 10 degrees in an hour or two? What do you think?? And thanks for your kind response, Weston!
One typical wick kerosene lantern puts out 1400 btu, 4 or 5 lanterns will raise the temperature about 15°
You need to pump up the pressure lantern more often than once every couple hours. It's kind of a pain, but you get good light from it when it's pressurized. 4th alternative is a propane lantern. It's also loud like the white-gas pressure lantern, but it runs full-on until you turn it off or it runs out of gas. When I camped for weeks on end, I ran a hose from a 20-lb propane tank, and I could forget about it for 2 or 3 weeks, and that's staying up late playing camp chess.
Our coleman lantern will burn all night outside without pumping up pressure. The light gets lower, but still provides plenty of light until morning when we shut it off.
Just wondering, on the Colman dual fuel, are you able to run a cooking oil out of them or do you need the fumes from the required fuel to make them run? Have you or anyone tried to see if they could get the Colman to run off of some type of cooking oil? Nice video, thanks for sharing and taking the time. Peace, Reese
I doubt a cooking oil would work, it is much too viscous. Possibly a much lighter oil like 3 in 1, but even that is very doubtful. These Colemans usually use something called White Gas which is mostly Naptha. Dual Fuel Colemans can use gasoline also, but neither white gas or gasoline is very oil-like. I cant say anything for certain because I wont risk damage to my Dual Fuel to test oils, haha
Mo -Reese's Pieces you’d be ruining the generator. In fact you want to use unleaded gas only in emergencies or if you don’t mind cleaning the generator often. Best to use white gas, crown is way cheaper than Coleman fuel .
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purchased my first Aladdin lamp. Completely ruined the mantle and did some
damage to the wick. Got a new mantle and got a new wick but the flame is not symmetrical. In some
spots there is almost no flame and in others quite a large flame. Lamp runs but
at low power and I get dark spots on the mantle if I turn it up much at all.
I’m running kerosene. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks
It's worth noting the Coleman will burn E85 just fine. I have tried it personally. I'd just recommend flushing it with white gas before storage to prevent moisture and rust issues.
How much spacer is needed above an Aladdin lamp to prevent damage to a ceiling?
I'm considering putting one in my mantle, or perhaps on a shelf.
24 inches clearance above chimney. They sell a chimney lid for it too if you have concerns. It puts a LOT of heat out the chimney top
Of my coleman starts to die out its time to go to bed in most cases..
the fun of the Genie and the coleman it does heat up the room a bit ..
thanks for an outstanding quick pace review of these 👍🏻
How often do you replace the mantle in the Colman lantern
Thank you for all your wonderful demos!!!!!!!!
Very good video to show the differences. A little bit of light. Decent light with 5,00 BTU and a lot of light and more heat, Be aware of the dangers of using them indoors. Is there a replacement for the Aladdin mantel without replacing the entire assembly?
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Yes there is. You can buy them on the internet for 10 to 15 dollars a piece.
Excellent video, very helpful, thanks.
Nice comparison. Aladdin is the thing.
Can you use a light sweet crude oil in any of these lamps in a pinch? Lots of oil wells where I live
No. Even "light" crude oil is many times "thicker" than any of these lanterns can manage. Kerosene (up to and including "liquid paraffin"), naphtha, and "white" gasoline are the fuels which work. Diesel fuel will also work, but it will make your living space smell like a truck stop. If what you intend to use is less than transparent or has much color, it will be unsuitable for use in these devices.
If your talking shft, then if your really motivated you can distill crude to a diesel. Don't think any of us will be doing that, but its not that far out a idea. In africa they have clandestine fuel making operations that are very sketchy distilling crude into diesel over fire pits and using 55 gallon steel drums lol. But still, I dont have any idea if diesel would be refined enought to be usable in either the alladin or colman lantern. Wick one would work fine I imagine.
Hello. Where to buy olive oil lamps online? Thanks.
Thanks . Great straight forward information.
Very informative video,
Thanks man. Nice comments mean alot. Cheers - Weston
As you're talking about noise, i can hear that coleman hissing away the whole time.
Good if you need noise to sleep. Some people want noise like running a fan, etc...
The Hurricane Oil Lamp is the BEST choice hands down.
Cheap. Multiple fuels, quite... And very portable.
Brian Mccann You don't want to run an Aladdin dry while you sleep or run one while you sleep. When Aladdins run out of fuel the wick smolders down and will be ruined. Also, then "can" flare if theres a malfunction and burn your house down. Never run one unattended.
Lantern make a good heat source you have a good video
2020 thank you, very much sir.
....... Probably only our local lexicon but one of em was called a hurricane lantern , I always thought that was the pressure lantern cos of the roar , but others reckon it's the fourth one you held up that's called a hurricane lantern . Always amuses me how in western movies that all the strong light in the room is attributed to the kerosene wick lanterns. Sure , the Aladdin has a chimney flue to create air feed draught for a hotter flame. The mantles need a temperature just a little higher than what a non flue wick can provide and the alladin does the job.
..In the hippy era there was a little lightweight metal foil attachment that fitted around the wick to spread the flame and increase light output . The mantle as invented by Swedish chemist in 1860s was the first exploitation of the lanthanides or rare earth metals. Along with the reliable utility gas distribution those mantle lights persisted till the 1940s as household lighting in some regions . A sturdier type of mantle was used .
Thank you for such an informative video 🙏💖
an oil lamp is a different beast and it usually is not using any draft like a kerosene lamp. for oil lamps a few different variations on the designs exist but most keep the fuel and burning end of the wick within an inch of each other at the most, some let the flame directly touch the oil.
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Metal Aladdin's?
Don't forget that some hardware stores sell generic white gas which is cheaper than Coleman brand white gas and there's also some other type of fuel that you can use in them that is also sold in some hardware stores, I don't remember the name, but it's not unleaded gasoline.
Naphtha is what you are referring to, as what you can find at hardware stores.
Leaded gas can be used in regular Coleman lamps, have both types, but generator will carbon up the expansion tube and it can be cleaned out with a 22 caliber brass rifle bore brush, no need to discard them. I do have regular Coleman fuel. Yellow kerosene (drives bugs out of the house) works well in Aladdin lamps and stoves if used every night for hours at a time, 9 days after an ice storm here but I have #1 kerosene as well. I have a Rayo kerosene lamp, no mantel but its system allows unusually brighter light than wick lamps. STA-BIL brand fuel additive for kerosene will prevent bacteria from growing if kerosene is kept for many years. I bought a Coleman kerosene pump-up lantern when on sale, prefer kerosene inside for safety, gasoline is best used outside for fire safety and to avoid carbon monoxide gas in closed spaces such as tight winter tents. I have two grain alcohol stoves, no moving parts, easier and sturdier than the homemade ones on You Tube, produces carbon monoxide as well. I keep a large number of LED flashlights as well as lamps. I question using non-ethanol gas, harder to find, as useful in Coleman's and what is the problem there?
I got 2 of those regular oil lamps and 1 tank last about 10 hours, The Walmart el cheapo storm lantern for about $7 last about 13 hours on one tank.
I got the Aladdin B and 23 model and I love them both. If you do not want smell, then the Aladdin is the one to use.
You forgot to mention fume smell while operating.
My stupid oil lamps keeps burning the wick to …ASHES ….so I bought NEW WICKS &&& same issue … new wicks new oil … turns to ashes… what is going on ?🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Are all three safe to use indoors?
The burning of any hydrocarbon fuel produces CO (carbon monoxide) among other combustion products. There is no such thing as a non-toxic dose. Obviously, high doses are deadly; but, even low doses can produce measurable harm. The literature with pressure lamps like Coleman products states that they are not to be used indoors (at least it did the last time I read it). I don't know what Aladdin's literature states and wonder whether it would ever say that their products ARE safe to use indoors.
I think you need to cover the cirkular burners of the non mantel lamps too. While of course not as bright as a mantel lamp the 14''' Kosmos or the 20''' Ideal are very bright none the less. The 20''' Ideal gives about 5-700 watt of heat so about half of an Alladin and it lights up about as much as a 20w bulb of the old non halogen type. The 14''' Kosmos a tad less but still very bright. For more cozy use I'll recommend a 10''' Kosmos. A perfect balance between light, heat and fuel consumption. Btw. I run them on fuel intended for Zibro type heaters as it's the cheapest here. Don't have access to jet fuel even though most of the so called heater fuel, lamp oil, smell less kerosene is in reality jet fuel. I've tried both the cheapest and the most expensive heater fuel and various lamp oils. No significant difference. The verdict - get whatever kerosene cheapest even though it may be called something else like lamp oil or firestarting liquid or whatever as long as it's non colored or you live in a place where you still get the old fashioned smelly kerosene.
HifiCentret I do not have one of the lamps you speak of to do a video of. But, they are probably great lamps nonetheless. Cheers. Weston
HifiCentret Jet fuel will kill you! It has anti freeze and anti gel to keep fuel lines from clogging at altitude. If you're getting enough ventilation you might not get poisoned outright but you will end up with lung cancer or something like that some years down the road
+booobtooober Thanks for clarifying. Jet fuel before the additives ;)
Kerosene today is a little different from the old days. It depends on the specific length of molecules it's composed of. Nothing that really matters for most uses though.
Still (for Denmark at least and probably most of Europe too) I recommend the stuff for use in heaters (the kind also for indoor use). It's at least as clean, cheaper and often better than the so called lamp oil in smaller bottles and you're pretty sure not to get some that has been cooking in the sun for a long time as there's a flow of it while the smaller bottles you can be unlucky to get and old UV exposed one that has avoided being sold for a long time.
Of the smaller 1L bottles I've had a few duds which almost refused to work in a 14''' Kosmos (only very low flame) and a little better but still very poor in a 15''' Matador and a 20''' Ideal all eating wick quite fast. Let it run on very low (no eating then) to use the fuel to avoid having delivering it to the recycle station as I don't have a grill to use it to fire that up or other non critical purpose. Trimmed wick and put in the heater fuel instead. What a difference. Zero wick eating and able to turn them up very high without smoke. Most likely there's better quality control on the heater fuel too as it's made to be burnt in larger quantities.
My karecin lamp wuz given to me the aladun wuz found in garbege.
Thanks for the demos!
Excellent video. Thanks for the information!
honestly, phenomenal video
Great video. Super info & presentation
I have an aladin lamp and I have walked through the house with it burning, nothing happened to it
Also I have an antique regular oil lamp and it lights up my entire room to be able to comfortably read almost anywhere
Lol was this filmed on a camcorder? This is pretty cool though, an incandescent mantle that isn't propane is exceedingly interesting.
The Aladdin seems to be the best compromise between fuel cost, noise, and usable light output.
Really excellent and informative and well done video. thanks.
Great video!!!! - - - Very informative !!!!!! - - - Key Man
Informative! Well done.
I liked that. good video.
Excellent video. Very entertaining...
Thanks for the info, great video. 🌝
The oil lamp you held up for a few seconds: "the one you would see in the old times, you would see somebody carrying through the woods"; what brand of that type lamp would you recommend? I want one to hang out on my cabin porch at night when I am alone and have to take my dog out or go to the out house. Would you consider it a good choice or something else? What would you recommend?
It would be an excellent choice! I use mine on the cabin porch all the time. I have taken one camping so many times we have lost count. My suggestion would be one from the Wally World camping section. They usually have green or red choices and they work just fine for the price. Look for bad bends or dents and you should be fine. Thanks for the comment. Weston
+Marilyn Hall
I have a collection of the old fashioned Dietz lanterns and burn them often. The best overall to me is the Dietz No.8 Air Pilot as it has a big fuel font, big wick, and burns well. Lehmans and WT Kirkman sell them on line. You can order the brass burner and hardware for several dollars more and they will last many years. The Dietz 2500 Jupiter is also the biggest, widest and is very user friendly. The Wally World lanterns are cheaper, smaller, and have a wick about half as wide as the bigger Dietz lanterns so the light output is lower. But the taller glass in them seems to reflect light a little better. The Dietz 2500 was $25, $16 for the #8 Air Pilot, and the Wally ones were $10 or so. The Wally World ones are a copy of the Dietz Junior. My coolest ''toy'' is the tiny Japanese made Winged Wheel 350 that is 7'' tall and its glass is tennis ball sized. It lights the way to the (indoor) bathroom and not much else. Its lit right now and has cedar oil added to Klean Heat to make the room smell nice.
Dietz No. 8 Air Pilot would be a great choice for the porch. Take care to fill the font 1/2 full as these kinds of lanterns leak from the air tubes when overfilled and it looks like the base is leaking. Good luck.
I got an black small el cheapo hurricane lamp from walmart, can't remember how much it was. About maybe $7. It will run 13 hours on one full tank of fuel. It has about the light output of an candle.
It works.
Good information. Thank you
awesome comparison! Thank you Sir!
nice video first time I've ever seen one of those Genie Light lamp 3 can you tell a guy where you can buy one of those I like it it's like having a 60 watt bulb of light I bet they make one of those with a shade too that look really nice I want to buy one I'm living right in the middle of town big city off grid I've been getting away with it for two years no water no electricity no gas I use propane battery Banks for my phone and I buy bottled water for my dog to drink at the store I don't pay utilities I make a house payment 565 a month that's my total cost of living
Check Lehman’s hardware Ohio on line store. If you live near an Amish or Mennonite community they carry them also at their local shops.
Tons of great info. Thanks!
I love you, Weston.
Great Video. Thanks
What about odor, harmful emissions for indoor use? Does gasoline emit harmful chemicals more than kerosene?
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All three of these emit a Carbonmonoxide gas. However simple gentle venting will prevent you ever having problems. As the video stats your not likely to burn them for more then a few hours. So your safe.
Cherping flames noise...lol
Good review.
Thank you!
The one you're holding up and swinging around is not a lamp, it's a lantern.
The white gas one is allso a lantern because it has a handle to be carried around.
Could you run the Colman duel fuel on Methylated ( denatured spirits) spirits?
I tried and it wouldn't stay lit.
Thanks :)
If you want a multi fuel lantern, you could look into BriteLyt. They are very expensive but can run on most flammable liquids. The Dual Fuel is only meant for Camp Fuel and Gasoline. Even if you somehow did get other fuels to work in it, it might not be safe to do so.
Great review! Thanks man.
Excellent video! Very informative. Thank you so much. :0)