MrTwk63 That's bc Vee is a stepmom to Isaac. Their kids are not step siblings. I think ViVi is Vee's daughter's name, she and Isaac have the same Dad, Joe, so they're "half" siblings.
Josie Zamot true but they Jo and Kail didn’t do the back and forth as much as Javi and her are. The way Javi and her act sometimes it comes off like they could still be fooling around tbh, Javi in my opinion likes the drama which is why at one point his relationships were overlapping. I think Kails right though, Javi, Vee and Kail were just young and immature during this while Javi is who he is and he will always have a revolving door of girlfriends it seems. Vee came and STAYED, that’s the difference.
Haley Fitts what I mean he is ugly inside and outside. I don’t see him a good match for Vee she is very mature loving beautiful girl. Joe is someone who left his 15-16 years old teenage girlfriend pregnant. Not so smart immature men.
linda ziu I mean we shouldn't judge his entire life and character based on getting his gf pregnant as a teenager. It does appear Vee could do better imho, but Joe has been making huge improvements. There's something in him that she sees that others don't and as his wife that's how it's supposed to be.
I think Kail was definitely intimidated and jealous of Vee and Jo in the beginning. Calling Vee a hoodrat w/o even knowing her, that screamed insecurity, she hated the sight on Jo moving on w Vee. Glad to see that their in a better place now.
It is vee that deserves the credit for the relationship working. She loves joe and Isaac and it shows. Kail is immature and jealous. She is a child with much growing up to do.
@@Rollimggiant I agree and now she is starting with Lauren. Lauren really loves Lincoln and Javi you can tell. And Lauren seems really sweet to me and good with kids. If Lauren is so dangerous and bad then why would she allow her around Lincoln? She was like this with Vee for years not wanting Vee around Isaac for years because she smoked weed.
I dont think she is actually capable of love but joe was definitely the closest she will probably ever come...its obvious he is different than any other guy
Nah, I just think she grew with him. Let’s be honest, her mom and dad are trash to the point she even lived with Joe and his family for awhile. I think it’s more of her just being proud of him overall as a man and a father cuz he’s someone she’s known for a long time. I don’t think any part of Kail actually still wants to be with Joe and with how happy she is for Vee you can tell she’s over him.
For kail to say she doesn’t wish for a better step mom for her son.. thats finally good to hear from her! Finally she sees it!!🙂💗 lets hope she keeps that opinion💗
Like when Leah was in the park with her daughter and dog and then MTV filmed the sign that said no dogs allowed lollll. Its reality TV they should be petty lol
That's what they always do to show how far they come she hated Vee for years. But not all of it is old either Kailyn was pissed when right after they got 50/50 Jo was asking for child support but I think he stopped and decided not to get child support?
Its not her place to be nice to the other babymama. Any real woman would soften up when they see how a woman treat they child. I think kail have anger issues . An shes mad with javi it don't have nothing to do .With the girlfriend he have
Oh please they are up and down now. They used to just be down now they are up ans down and Kailyn is only happy when she gets her way with things. Wasn't it just recently Jo asked for child support saying he needed the money and Kailyn flipped I mean I would too but this was just recently not too long ago lol They must have backed off that to be "getting along" again lol It just seems so fake with Vee and Kailyn to me though and I do not feel like Vee likes Kailyn she just fakes it. I think they backed off that child support thing so they are getting along again and Kailyn has a new person/girl to hate and to not try to get along with. But Jos only source of income is the show from what I understand and you know when that show is over or they all quit hes going to be asking her for child support again lol Not like he is going to go out and get a job or anything he hasn't worked for many years but maybe he will who knows but I doubt it because hes not now
I just can’t with Kailyn, she just seems like a mean spirited person. I understand people’s childhood effects they’re lives growing into an adult but my God
I cant stand her either...but at least she is good to her kids. Not a good mom by example with her relatiobships but a good mom in how she takes care of them. The fact that she didnt have a good example of a good mom or dad I have to give her props for that.
Sura S but remember when she said her own mother puts boyfriends before Kailyn. Well look at Kailyn with all different baby daddies now. She looks really desperate and it’s not good for her kids that she always has a new man so she is doing the exact thing her own mom was doing and thats sad. Honestly i dont even know how these men want to be with her maybe they just want the money from her
Really I could find some other words to describe kail but I won't. It really isn't excuse that she had a bad childhood. I know people that grew up ruff but they didn't continue to carry it on. The number one reason I stopped wTching the show was because of retarded actions of kail. Dr. Drew really needs to shut the shit show down now
@@Ksa-jy7eb Thats why I said not a good mom by example in relationships. Her mom put men and alcohol first instead of taking care of Kailyn and being there for her always ready to kick her out for the current man she was dating. Kailyn still takes care of her kids and puts their welfare first. She doesnt always have a new man. There has only been one man since her divorce. She just happens to be the side peace lol. Listen Kail can be an awful petty human being. And now she has 3 baby daddies and its embarrassing. But she is good to her kids and that is my only point. Her kids are very well behaved and that says something.
Pamela Gipson right I know people too and you would never guess that they had it as hard as they did. But hey everybody is different and she’s just different can’t say it’s a good different either. Maybe it’s how the show portrays her every season lol
Vee does not look happy to me I think she is faking it lol I just get off a fake vibe but I guess she is trying to get along. Kailyn must have got her way so she is happy and can buy her third baby daddy some shrimp crab and whatever he wants lol
I love the way Kail and V have bonded together as one💯your children are blessed in so many ways because of it. Your families together are beautiful 🤜💥🤛
This relationship is beautiful you genuinely feel the bond they have. I watched them grow from the beginning and it’s nice to see them at a good place now
I been with my husband for 8 years and his babymomma would NEVER be this way with me lol. It actually brings me sadness, I’ve known her daughter since she was 1 she’s 9 now. But I guess some people don’t grow up
She was so angry and bitter. Joe UPGRADED and that girl is beautiful and kind. Thank God Kail didn’t have the chance to run her off because Vee knew it’s was jealousy rooted.
I'm shocked. Lol Kailyn hated Vee with a passion 🤣🤣🤣 I always liked Vee tho. Kail needs to chill, honestly. She's always so critical and insecure of others.
Everyone has to remember Kail's past. She has been constantly rejected my her family and Jo and his family were her support and they abandoned her too to an extent. So she felt threatened. She has fought to learn life skills and how to do life with little to no guidance. It's pretty impressive that she has gained some maturity and has this outlook now.
Kailyn was mad jealous prolly still is but knows jo wouldnt touch her again and jo n vee r doin just as good as kailyn if not better bc they're stable emotionally
Shelbsterrae exactly! People always seem to forget JAVI plays a big role in Kail not liking anyone, it’s as if he wants them to not get along. With Vee I think it was a combination of like she said them all being young and immature and her not being over Joe...but Javi isn’t this angel he likes to portray himself as. What kind of man deliberately talks shit to his baby momma and girlfriend about one another? A manipulative man
@@mrochel90 I hope it happens for you! I wouldn't wish the misery I went thru on anyone. I had to wait until my kids became adults before it went away. Good luck to you!
I can absolutely understand why somebody wants too meet someone and have their own family. There is nothing wrong with that either. I have kids, my partner has kids. We have a strong relationship and you have too. Because kids complicate things and you have to proceed with care.
It's fake. They were just fighting this year online and throwing mad shade and hate online lol I think it must of worked out the way Kailyn wanted to because ow they are all pretending to be friends and like they get along kombya lol Even Kailyn has said she does not get along with her two exes and she claims she did not love her two exes that she only loved Chris Lmao The only guy who does not love her back at all and just uses her and would not claim her for a very long time or that child Lmao. That's what she gets. Chris just uses her now he never loved her and this right here is so fake lol
Vee is such a gem. Kail put her through it, and she still loves her child, and her, and her other children. I really think it goes further than her wanting to mediate between kail and jo. I think she truly has love for kail and tries to understand her.
Right. And now she has a new enemy her last exes wife. Then next thing you know Chris leaves her if she ask him to work or contribute in some way with a job and he leaves her then that ex new girlfriend will be her enemy too lol
I kinda agree with kail because I would not want someone smoking in front of my kid but vee is good stepmom and all that stuff and I can tell that vee is a very upbeat person and kind. And when kail said I couldn’t wish for a better stepmom for Isaac I started to ball my eyes out!!
You can tell Kail has alot of anger in general but if there is a time where she displays the best of herself its when she is around Vee. It says alot about Vee that she brings out the best in Kail. I think Kail typically surrounds herself with toxic people but Vee is truly genuine and it allows Kail to let her guard down and be okay in those moments. Just my opinion. She needs a better crowd and more people like Vee in Her life .
I think Kaitlyn just doesn’t want any of her ex-boyfriend to be happy she feels like if she’s miserable she wants everybody around her to be miserable too
I like Vee because vee never played with kail. She never lowered herself. Kail is love less. She only knows anger and making others feel nervous because she’s bigger and louder. Vee never stopped down and played with Kail’s trash. Love Vee and that’s why kail loves Vee now. ❤️
All these hateful comments yall really seem to miss the point these ladies are good friends now they came along way being a step mom is very hard but they are making their family unit work I'm so happy for all of them
Maybe Lauren dosn't kiss her behind and bow down to her lol But I have seen Lauren trying to get along but Kailyn was not and it reminded me just like she was with Vee for a long time! Then she uses that we were younger than bullshit when they were just fighting this year all of them lol
Mia C no lauren talked real bad about kail. Kaitlyn first wanted to meet her like in a normal friendly way but then mtv showed kail a video that lauren said bad stuff about kail. That’s why
@@zoecorneliabrigitte5098 No Kailyn looked through Javi's texts one day and saw Lauren called her the B word. This is why she is mad and does not want to talk to her lol Who knows what was going on at the time or what was said when she called her a b word but she sneak into Javis phone and saw that. I remember Kailyn talking crap about Lauren first though and this is prob another reason Lauren said that and other things she did at the time. I feel this way if this person is around your child you should get to know them and talk to them and be friendly. There are many reasons and things that Kailyn did in the past that people would think shes the b word lol If Lauren was so dangerous and bad she would not want her around her kid. I just find it funny that Chris has called Kailyn much worse than the b word and he has hit according to her and pushed her with her baby in her arms and hit and put walls in her house damgining it yet she forgives Chris time and time again the guy that denied her for long time and that child. Also Kailyn is a hypocrite when Chris has said and done much worse plus shes talked mad shit about Lauren too before I seen it on the show and she did not want Vee around for long time saying she is dangerous because she smoked weed, then she said Javi was dangerous because he went in the basement of his own house because he wanted to know who was living with his kids because she would not tell him and he was right she had Chris living there even after he pushed her with the baby in her arms, hit her and tore her house up putting holes in the walls she left him around the kids and acted like he is not dangerous. I forgot she makes excuses for Chris because she wants to have another baby by him but the females in her exes lives she acts like are such bad people but now she just acts all buddy buddy with Vee after years of being criticized fighting with her now shes doing the samething with Lauren. And Lauren is right Kail is a B and everyone thought that. This is probably around the sametime she would not even allow him in house own even when he just got back from over seas because she was trying to hide she moved Chris in, not even to pick the kids up and he allowed her in his house though. And she even dumped all his stuff in the garage and then moved Chris in. His clothes and everything and did not ask if she could do that or just dump his stuff like that putting it in dirty garage and Chris probably touched his stuff too and volatile his stuff and put all his crap in there. I wonder how Kailyn would like that if Javi dumped all her things in the garage like it and she was nothing and then just moved a new woman in right away? She went from making out with a woman to dating a woman to moving some dude in that did not like her or care about her and denied the child and her for months and talked shiit about her for a long time then her dumbasss thinks it's a good idea to get knocked up by him this loser lol
I am so thankful to have this kind of relationship with my husband's daughters mother. We havent always seen eye to eye but we are all always in it for the girls. That means school events pageants birthday parties all as one happy family
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I respect Kail for saying she couldn't wish for a better step mom for Isaac.
I like how shes so adamant on her children not being called "step" siblings but she has no problem calling V a step mom. Lmao
They’re not step siblings tho they are half siblings, step is when you don’t have the same parents at all, no relation to the the mother or father.
MrTwk63 But her children aren’t step siblings 🤨
MrTwk63
That's bc Vee is a stepmom to Isaac. Their kids are not step siblings. I think ViVi is Vee's daughter's name, she and Isaac have the same Dad, Joe, so they're "half" siblings.
ANYONE IS A BETTER MOM THAN KAIL,LOL
I think that since vee never backed off and stood her ground is why kail eventually had to get over it
Christina Raymond Kail got over it cause she got over Jo.
Josie Zamot true but they Jo and Kail didn’t do the back and forth as much as Javi and her are. The way Javi and her act sometimes it comes off like they could still be fooling around tbh, Javi in my opinion likes the drama which is why at one point his relationships were overlapping. I think Kails right though, Javi, Vee and Kail were just young and immature during this while Javi is who he is and he will always have a revolving door of girlfriends it seems. Vee came and STAYED, that’s the difference.
I don't agree I think it's because Vee and Jo backed down
nah vee and jo let her walk all over them
@@miac2382 i agree
I love when they dramatically storm off and say I’m done and then are back in 2 minutes 😂
That was a old clip she stormed off.
Nikki W because producers make them come back on stage
lol
Mai Ka Vang not always
😂😂💀
Vee is a lovely person, joe is lucky
Ffimac i don’t really understand what Vee sees on Joe?? He is the most ugly guy
linda ziu it’s not all about looks sweetie
Haley Fitts what I mean he is ugly inside and outside. I don’t see him a good match for Vee she is very mature loving beautiful girl. Joe is someone who left his 15-16 years old teenage girlfriend pregnant. Not so smart immature men.
linda ziu Um, but he was 16 at the time as well, what did you expect 🤨? And that was like 10 years ago.......
linda ziu
I mean we shouldn't judge his entire life and character based on getting his gf pregnant as a teenager. It does appear Vee could do better imho, but Joe has been making huge improvements. There's something in him that she sees that others don't and as his wife that's how it's supposed to be.
I think Kail was definitely intimidated and jealous of Vee and Jo in the beginning. Calling Vee a hoodrat w/o even knowing her, that screamed insecurity, she hated the sight on Jo moving on w Vee. Glad to see that their in a better place now.
Kail has definitely made some uncomfortable racial comments over the years.
Let’s not forget when kail got mad and texted jo over issac’s haircut saying “he’s half white” like huh ? You racist too ? 💀
I think Vee is definitely good for Joe. She’s a strong woman, seems pretty smart, and not a b!tch🙂😆
She used to be so rude and so trashy she changed
Queen R
When?
AmbyJeans when you become a parent, it changes you. You’re forced to grow up. That’s what happened. She became a mama.
Where u from 😍😍
Havy was such a good guy I felt so sorry for him. He was a rebound man..
Damn their relationship has come along way cuddos to Kail for growing
Nah they were just fighting online a months ago but mtv does not show this lol
It is vee that deserves the credit for the relationship working. She loves joe and Isaac and it shows. Kail is immature and jealous. She is a child with much growing up to do.
@@Rollimggiant I agree and now she is starting with Lauren. Lauren really loves Lincoln and Javi you can tell. And Lauren seems really sweet to me and good with kids. If Lauren is so dangerous and bad then why would she allow her around Lincoln? She was like this with Vee for years not wanting Vee around Isaac for years because she smoked weed.
Kail has a lot of growing to do... Plenty of it
Veronica Ponciano nah, kudos to Vee.
Kailyn cries every time with anything Joe related. He was definitely her true love. I can tell
Yes that's her first love of course
True love? Naw.
I dont think she is actually capable of love but joe was definitely the closest she will probably ever come...its obvious he is different than any other guy
Her first love yes!
Nah, I just think she grew with him. Let’s be honest, her mom and dad are trash to the point she even lived with Joe and his family for awhile. I think it’s more of her just being proud of him overall as a man and a father cuz he’s someone she’s known for a long time. I don’t think any part of Kail actually still wants to be with Joe and with how happy she is for Vee you can tell she’s over him.
Vee is a beast. I think this is a situation where Kail couldn't get her way so she just folded.
mortal orphan Vee should be a lawyer. She seems like a good communicator and levelheaded
@@Shadowgirl740 ...yes!
mortal orphan 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
mortal orphan Kail is literally a spoiled child. Most of these women on TM2 are literal kids, even after being on the show almost 9 years.
Vee never backed down and kail lost that bully battle. She's allowed to do what ever but no one else can ... She's a hypocrite and childish
Right
Amen! She’s a joke
I think it is because Vee and Jo backed down now though. But I agree with everything else you said!
Thank you, YES👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@aFeverishFiend facts
V killed K w/ kindness.
She sure did and that’s why I respect her. Most women probably would have cussed her out
As she should've # unbothered
I’m glad Kailyn finally admitted she was wrong for the way she treated Vee.
For kail to say she doesn’t wish for a better step mom for her son.. thats finally good to hear from her! Finally she sees it!!🙂💗 lets hope she keeps that opinion💗
They are besties now.
MTV is petty for bringing up all the old drama right in the beginning!
Like when Leah was in the park with her daughter and dog and then MTV filmed the sign that said no dogs allowed lollll. Its reality TV they should be petty lol
It's not petty. This show is about struggle and growth and that's exactly what they showed
babyheartz_ _ you won't watch if it wasn't drama
babyheartz_ _ meh...it’s to show their growth not only personally, but together. Just shows how far they have come since those days.
That's what they always do to show how far they come she hated Vee for years. But not all of it is old either Kailyn was pissed when right after they got 50/50 Jo was asking for child support but I think he stopped and decided not to get child support?
Am I the only one who actually likes Vee, kaitlyn is just a jealous person
Thats old and in the past. They are friends now.
U r a hater !! How do u see jealousy on this
@@lakeshashabazz4179 How am I hating 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
JD I guess she said if you can’t beat em join em
@@nenaj1 I know they're friends now
I'm so happy that they have a great relationship hopefully she can do the same with the other babymother
Its not her place to be nice to the other babymama. Any real woman would soften up when they see how a woman treat they child. I think kail have anger issues . An shes mad with javi it don't have nothing to do .With the girlfriend he have
How does she not know how old javi is???!! she lived, married, had kids THEN divorced the man...
@duckyzzz she looked like she wasn't sure to me but hey.. who really knows except kailyn
Same thing I said
She knows.. she’s just trying to act like she doesn’t care
So. I couldn't tell you how old my ex of 8 years is.
Because she can care less for him.
I love this. This is how a co-parenting with step parents relationship should be.
Oh please they are up and down now. They used to just be down now they are up ans down and Kailyn is only happy when she gets her way with things. Wasn't it just recently Jo asked for child support saying he needed the money and Kailyn flipped I mean I would too but this was just recently not too long ago lol They must have backed off that to be "getting along" again lol It just seems so fake with Vee and Kailyn to me though and I do not feel like Vee likes Kailyn she just fakes it. I think they backed off that child support thing so they are getting along again and Kailyn has a new person/girl to hate and to not try to get along with. But Jos only source of income is the show from what I understand and you know when that show is over or they all quit hes going to be asking her for child support again lol Not like he is going to go out and get a job or anything he hasn't worked for many years but maybe he will who knows but I doubt it because hes not now
00pp
Vee is just the bigger person.
Kail has atleast 100lb on her though! Lol joking but yes Vee has a great personality
NIKKI STAHR ahhah love this
@@nikkistahr7105 😂😂😂😂
Let not acknowledge the monumental growth Kail has gone through. Yall just love to hate her😂
damn, that's growth right there. Glad Kail came around because Vee has always been the voice of reason lol
I just can’t with Kailyn, she just seems like a mean spirited person. I understand people’s childhood effects they’re lives growing into an adult but my God
I cant stand her either...but at least she is good to her kids. Not a good mom by example with her relatiobships but a good mom in how she takes care of them. The fact that she didnt have a good example of a good mom or dad I have to give her props for that.
Sura S but remember when she said her own mother puts boyfriends before Kailyn. Well look at Kailyn with all different baby daddies now. She looks really desperate and it’s not good for her kids that she always has a new man so she is doing the exact thing her own mom was doing and thats sad. Honestly i dont even know how these men want to be with her maybe they just want the money from her
Really I could find some other words to describe kail but I won't. It really isn't excuse that she had a bad childhood. I know people that grew up ruff but they didn't continue to carry it on. The number one reason I stopped wTching the show was because of retarded actions of kail. Dr. Drew really needs to shut the shit show down now
@@Ksa-jy7eb Thats why I said not a good mom by example in relationships. Her mom put men and alcohol first instead of taking care of Kailyn and being there for her always ready to kick her out for the current man she was dating. Kailyn still takes care of her kids and puts their welfare first. She doesnt always have a new man. There has only been one man since her divorce. She just happens to be the side peace lol. Listen Kail can be an awful petty human being. And now she has 3 baby daddies and its embarrassing. But she is good to her kids and that is my only point. Her kids are very well behaved and that says something.
Pamela Gipson right I know people too and you would never guess that they had it as hard as they did. But hey everybody is different and she’s just different can’t say it’s a good different either. Maybe it’s how the show portrays her every season lol
If only I can sit down with my Baby dads other Baby mama and have this type of relationship... that will NEVER happen... big ups to these ladies 🙌🏽👏🏽
I feel you girl! But this is beautiful to see, almost gives us some hope. 💓
@@BambinaGinaa Kail was awful to Vee (publicly humiliated her) and did everything to sabatoge Jo being a good dad. So there is def hope!
Y'all heard at that phrase keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
I agree ...it would be difficult at first but over time you build a relationship and hope for the best.
I get along with my daughters fathers wife. We talk and text. No issues.
Lol. Can't wait till Chris has another baby momma up there. Kail is going to lose her mind.
Melinda P 😂😂😂😂😂
Melinda P that‘s what you get with 3 baby daddies
Do you want her committed😂😂😂
Petty betty gonna lose it
@angelina angel I'm sure they told your mother that about you
This relationship is amazing!
It’s so good seeing them getting along.
Vee does not look happy to me I think she is faking it lol I just get off a fake vibe but I guess she is trying to get along. Kailyn must have got her way so she is happy and can buy her third baby daddy some shrimp crab and whatever he wants lol
Mia C
Idk those tears seemed pretty real. That looked like a genuine exchange to me.
Vee is so pretty and a very calm and collected person.
I love the way Kail and V have bonded together as one💯your children are blessed in so many ways because of it. Your families together are beautiful 🤜💥🤛
This relationship is beautiful you genuinely feel the bond they have. I watched them grow from the beginning and it’s nice to see them at a good place now
I think Kail low key has a crush on Vee. Vee is so beautiful inside and out.
Lolis De Leon no she’s jealous of her and joe she has the perfect ending not her.
Stop crying. No, you stop crying. You cried first! 😂
From not being able to sit on the same couch to having a podcast together
I been with my husband for 8 years and his babymomma would NEVER be this way with me lol. It actually brings me sadness, I’ve known her daughter since she was 1 she’s 9 now. But I guess some people don’t grow up
So happy to see them get along. ❤️
Now shes focused on hating Lauren so she has a new person to hate lol
She was so angry and bitter. Joe UPGRADED and that girl is beautiful and kind. Thank God Kail didn’t have the chance to run her off because Vee knew it’s was jealousy rooted.
🌚..
As a mother and women my perspective on kail is that she is NOT happy 😓 she is those kind of women that are bitter and never happy for others 🙏🏼
Did you not watch the video? She's very happy for them.
I'm shocked. Lol Kailyn hated Vee with a passion 🤣🤣🤣 I always liked Vee tho. Kail needs to chill, honestly. She's always so critical and insecure of others.
Everyone has to remember Kail's past. She has been constantly rejected my her family and Jo and his family were her support and they abandoned her too to an extent. So she felt threatened. She has fought to learn life skills and how to do life with little to no guidance. It's pretty impressive that she has gained some maturity and has this outlook now.
Kailyn was mad jealous prolly still is but knows jo wouldnt touch her again and jo n vee r doin just as good as kailyn if not better bc they're stable emotionally
Kail didn't like Vee, she didn't like Brianna she doesnt like Lauren, I sense a pattern here...
I don't like any of my exes significant others.
Me too I see it the fat bitch is a jealous bitch
Yeah Javi was playing every one, and stirring the pot!
Verito # very jelly indeed. It makes her look embarrassing and foolish
Shelbsterrae exactly! People always seem to forget JAVI plays a big role in Kail not liking anyone, it’s as if he wants them to not get along. With Vee I think it was a combination of like she said them all being young and immature and her not being over Joe...but Javi isn’t this angel he likes to portray himself as. What kind of man deliberately talks shit to his baby momma and girlfriend about one another? A manipulative man
I would have given anything for my kids to have had a step mom like Vee. It was 10 years of hell in my case. Ughh!
@@mrochel90 I hope it happens for you! I wouldn't wish the misery I went thru on anyone. I had to wait until my kids became adults before it went away. Good luck to you!
Kail is miserable still
I like Vee way more than I like Kail, I finally have positive thoughts about Kail, in this scene.
Jessica Zepeda everyone likes Vee way more than Kail
5:59 my God, my heart this friendship has come a long way❤
She needs to apologize to Vee for acusing her of being on drugs. Love them both!
Kailyn was crying because Vee married the man she always wanted to end up with.
Lmao
Vee is a nice girl to accept the guy that already has a kid from another girl I couldn't do it.
not only that ....the fact that she moved away from her family so that Jo could be closer to his son...she gave up so much to be with him
@sharon curry there are more women with kids then men I know 8 guys and none of them have kids
@sharon curry kailyn look at her 3 kids from 3 different men gross 🤢🤮
@Vona Rose yes😉
I can absolutely understand why somebody wants too meet someone and have their own family. There is nothing wrong with that either. I have kids, my partner has kids. We have a strong relationship and you have too. Because kids complicate things and you have to proceed with care.
Wow she was a stunning bride😊
Vee laughs at kail all the time though lol.
Yeap!
Cause she's laughable
Shoutout to kail for becoming a mature person! People definitely judge her off her past but I honestly have so much respect for her.
Remember when Vee called Kail a pothead and now she has a company called pothead
Vee was always more mature.
Ugh I applaud the maturity between these two. It even made me teary eyed! Great job you two!
Love there friendship! All co parents should be like this.
It's fake. They were just fighting this year online and throwing mad shade and hate online lol I think it must of worked out the way Kailyn wanted to because ow they are all pretending to be friends and like they get along kombya lol Even Kailyn has said she does not get along with her two exes and she claims she did not love her two exes that she only loved Chris Lmao The only guy who does not love her back at all and just uses her and would not claim her for a very long time or that child Lmao. That's what she gets. Chris just uses her now he never loved her and this right here is so fake lol
Vee is such a gem. Kail put her through it, and she still loves her child, and her, and her other children. I really think it goes further than her wanting to mediate between kail and jo. I think she truly has love for kail and tries to understand her.
Always judging other people but mad when somebody judges her based off the fact that she hops from man to man honey let it breath
Right. And now she has a new enemy her last exes wife. Then next thing you know Chris leaves her if she ask him to work or contribute in some way with a job and he leaves her then that ex new girlfriend will be her enemy too lol
I'm glad they are friendly instead of acting bitter toward vee cause she's envious
So happy they are on good terms 💜💜
I really can’t stand Nessa. Really wish it was Dr. Drew grilling them and asking questions.
Vee, you are a class act! I'm happy Kailyn has a stable female who she can turn too. They really evolved and this is beautiful!
Kailyn is more intelligent and kailyn has always been Isaacs mom not vee
@@queenr6423 3 baby daddies and no relationship, real intelligent.....🤦♀️
The relationship Kail & Vee have is Beautiful! 💚
I kinda agree with kail because I would not want someone smoking in front of my kid but vee is good stepmom and all that stuff and I can tell that vee is a very upbeat person and kind. And when kail said I couldn’t wish for a better stepmom for Isaac I started to ball my eyes out!!
Joes mom is also so awesome, she worked hard to help joe be a good man :)
You can tell Kail has alot of anger in general but if there is a time where she displays the best of herself its when she is around Vee. It says alot about Vee that she brings out the best in Kail. I think Kail typically surrounds herself with toxic people but Vee is truly genuine and it allows Kail to let her guard down and be okay in those moments. Just my opinion. She needs a better crowd and more people like Vee in Her life .
Made me cry. Wish all co parents could be mature enough to have this type of friendship and support. Im proud of Kail. She’s come so far.
I love Vee! She’s a beautiful person inside and out. From what I have seen, at least😊
I think Kaitlyn just doesn’t want any of her ex-boyfriend to be happy she feels like if she’s miserable she wants everybody around her to be miserable too
I love that they’re friends and genuinely have love for each other. That makes me so happy
I like Vee because vee never played with kail. She never lowered herself. Kail is love less. She only knows anger and making others feel nervous because she’s bigger and louder. Vee never stopped down and played with Kail’s trash. Love Vee and that’s why kail loves Vee now. ❤️
Literally my favorite scene ever❤️ I love how they’re literally bffs and always there for eachother!
So happy that vee and kail are best friends now . Just be one big happy family .
Love their growth ❤️
Too cute they getting along much better.
Kailyn has so many Baby Daddies
JOE IS VERY VERY LUCKY TO HAVE VEE❣️❣️😉
Kail lowkey crying cause it wasn’t her
😂😂 Kail has BEEN over Joe.
I like kail and vee ,both are amazing women in their own ways 😊
Vee is amazing...
This is how the relationship with the mother of the child and the new girlfriend SHOULD be like! Love this ☺❤
I absolutely love this! This is how life is suppose to be. This is a true example of maturity! I love it! 🥰
This was all possible because Vee is a mature, understanding, caring person. Kail did NOT mature at all. That woman is bitter and nasty beyond belief.
I like how doctor Drew tries to make Kailyn accountable for her actions & for the things she says
I'm so glad Kail had matured and they have a good relationship. I love how Vee never backed down to her either lol
All these hateful comments yall really seem to miss the point these ladies are good friends now they came along way being a step mom is very hard but they are making their family unit work I'm so happy for all of them
It's hard to see ur child be raised by the ex's new spouse. I can see how it was hard for her at first. I'm glad they grew so we'll together.
I totally agree
Vee SOOOO pretty though. I love the color of her jeans.
She is still petty, lauren is now getting the cold shoulder😄
Maybe Lauren dosn't kiss her behind and bow down to her lol But I have seen Lauren trying to get along but Kailyn was not and it reminded me just like she was with Vee for a long time! Then she uses that we were younger than bullshit when they were just fighting this year all of them lol
Mia C no lauren talked real bad about kail. Kaitlyn first wanted to meet her like in a normal friendly way but then mtv showed kail a video that lauren said bad stuff about kail. That’s why
@@zoecorneliabrigitte5098 No Kailyn looked through Javi's texts one day and saw Lauren called her the B word. This is why she is mad and does not want to talk to her lol Who knows what was going on at the time or what was said when she called her a b word but she sneak into Javis phone and saw that. I remember Kailyn talking crap about Lauren first though and this is prob another reason Lauren said that and other things she did at the time. I feel this way if this person is around your child you should get to know them and talk to them and be friendly. There are many reasons and things that Kailyn did in the past that people would think shes the b word lol If Lauren was so dangerous and bad she would not want her around her kid. I just find it funny that Chris has called Kailyn much worse than the b word and he has hit according to her and pushed her with her baby in her arms and hit and put walls in her house damgining it yet she forgives Chris time and time again the guy that denied her for long time and that child. Also Kailyn is a hypocrite when Chris has said and done much worse plus shes talked mad shit about Lauren too before I seen it on the show and she did not want Vee around for long time saying she is dangerous because she smoked weed, then she said Javi was dangerous because he went in the basement of his own house because he wanted to know who was living with his kids because she would not tell him and he was right she had Chris living there even after he pushed her with the baby in her arms, hit her and tore her house up putting holes in the walls she left him around the kids and acted like he is not dangerous. I forgot she makes excuses for Chris because she wants to have another baby by him but the females in her exes lives she acts like are such bad people but now she just acts all buddy buddy with Vee after years of being criticized fighting with her now shes doing the samething with Lauren. And Lauren is right Kail is a B and everyone thought that. This is probably around the sametime she would not even allow him in house own even when he just got back from over seas because she was trying to hide she moved Chris in, not even to pick the kids up and he allowed her in his house though. And she even dumped all his stuff in the garage and then moved Chris in. His clothes and everything and did not ask if she could do that or just dump his stuff like that putting it in dirty garage and Chris probably touched his stuff too and volatile his stuff and put all his crap in there. I wonder how Kailyn would like that if Javi dumped all her things in the garage like it and she was nothing and then just moved a new woman in right away? She went from making out with a woman to dating a woman to moving some dude in that did not like her or care about her and denied the child and her for months and talked shiit about her for a long time then her dumbasss thinks it's a good idea to get knocked up by him this loser lol
Mia C ahh ohyeah ofcourse ;)
Im in 😢 kail has grown now lincolns father and her need to do the same prayers sent your way kail stay strong and you and vee relationship is awesome
Oh my god I love this friendship! This actually made me cry❤❤
Y'all had me crying, I'm glad the two if you are friends that's so awesome!!
You can tell they have a good relationship cuz Joe was cool with his wife going to NY w/ his baby mom and didn't think twice about it....I love that
I love their relationship now lol 👯♀️
THEY ARE BABY MAMA GOALS😭💘
Kailyn is so judgmental of others. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Ms. Vicki she is but if she has the capacity to change that is awesome.
This is a beautiful bond and growth were witnessing..good for them foreal
Just shows there is always room for growth!
It’s so nice to see Kail w a good relationship in her inner circle. 💕💕💕
That’s very great both of Vee & Kailyn have a great relationship. When Kailyn was saying that Vee is good stepmom to Isaac. I’m was starting to cry.
I like they friendship kailyn and vee it's a blessing
I am so thankful to have this kind of relationship with my husband's daughters mother. We havent always seen eye to eye but we are all always in it for the girls. That means school events pageants birthday parties all as one happy family
.....how do you not know how old your ex husband is!?😂😂
Chanel Cupcake kaylin she doesn't know anything about none of her baby daddy she just get in bed with them
@@jimmywilson5417 😂 #Savage
I thought I was an adult at 26-27 years old too. Now at 40 I look back at things I was doing at that age and cringe lol
This show glorifies the worst!
Lol sooooo true!