Mini Helical Antenna 2.4GHz

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  • Опубліковано 5 кві 2013
  • Although this helical antenna only has 3 turns it is portable and the performance, only slightly less than a 14 turn helical antenna.
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  • @oeq57
    @oeq57 6 років тому

    I was having a look at the template and spent a good half 2 minutes thinking how to flip the design to get the opposite polarization then I noticed that there were both left hand polarzied and right hand polarized antenna designs. Thanks for that :)

  • @lebouski
    @lebouski 8 років тому

    this is pretty awesome. thanks for the video Andrew

  • @idontneednostinkingchannel6848
    @idontneednostinkingchannel6848 8 років тому

    nice job! like the matching stub! thanks for posting!

  • @YorHighness
    @YorHighness 10 років тому

    Thanks loads This without a doubt is my best wifi antenna to date thanks to your video. Its portable waterproof. Outstanding.video mate.

  • @NicuIrimia
    @NicuIrimia 10 років тому +6

    I think circular polarized waves change too when they are reflected. Left hand to right hand and vice versa.

  • @ghz240
    @ghz240 9 років тому +5

    Linear polarized waves do not reverse from horizontal to vertical on each reflection they may or may not change polarization at all depending on the shape of the reflector. No single reflector I've ever seen can change pure vertical to pure horizontal or vice versa. Two reflectors could if constructed just right.
    If linear polarized signals shifted 90 degrees with each bounce then parabolic reflectors would need a vertical feed to receive a horizontal signal.
    Circular polarized waves on the other hand will reverse left hand to right hand or vice versa on each reflection.
    This is how if both ends of a link are CP it can greatly reduce multipath interference.
    Single reflected signals are ignored by a good CP antenna because the rotation is going the wrong way. Signals that are reflected twice are rotating the correct direction but are usually greatly reduced compared to the main signal.

  • @alexeynovozhilov3079
    @alexeynovozhilov3079 8 років тому

    Great video! Thanks Andrew!

  • @statesmanls1
    @statesmanls1 8 років тому +3

    Comments have been said I'm sure but I too don't agree with the analysis. You're right that reflections are a problem with linear but it isn't because the signal is reduced its because it stays the same. A cp signal on the other hand is reduced as the polarization is reversed. What that means is that cp antennas reject multipathing better than linear

  • @gateway3794
    @gateway3794 10 років тому +2

    Hi Andrew. It was a real pleasure watching your video. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge. Do you have any pdf templates for a 1900-2100Mhz Helical?

  • @ugod987
    @ugod987 10 років тому

    Another great video mate.

  • @PaddyNinja
    @PaddyNinja 4 роки тому

    Outstanding brother. Cheers. ♥

  • @brianshaw2914
    @brianshaw2914 9 років тому +1

    Great vids....... Can you do a vid compairing all the antennas you make.... would be interesting and fun to watch....

  • @geirmyklebust
    @geirmyklebust 7 років тому

    Dji's extended antenna kit w/amp, are conical-helical, made of silver-wire, it is the most ultimate compact antenna.

  • @Dipin_iyyad
    @Dipin_iyyad 8 років тому

    could you explain the no. of turns and width of windings also coper cable size. awesome video
    thank u.. keep going...

  • @miloskoricanac5969
    @miloskoricanac5969 7 років тому

    Hello, thank you for this template, but can you tell us any size in this project ? I have problem with making reflector because i don't know R diameter size.

  • @emmanuelokpas7807
    @emmanuelokpas7807 3 роки тому

    Nice video. My question is 'why solder the metal shin with the sharp edge facing upwards instead of downwards? cos the shin is supposed to bring down the impedance down to the sharp.edge'
    Thank you.

  • @kialtoszo
    @kialtoszo Рік тому

    Hi Andrew! What type of antenna do you recommend for a place, where there are lots of trees (mountain region)? Would the helical antenna be the right one for me?

  • @anon31415
    @anon31415 5 років тому

    Andrew, your videos are sooo fun in a nerdy sort of way. (Nerds rule!)

  • @alvinramnarine314
    @alvinramnarine314 9 років тому +1

    nice work!

  • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
    @thecentralscrutinizer5105 6 років тому

    Hair style day is bangin' mate!!!..

  • @jadedsoul1
    @jadedsoul1 9 років тому +1

    any diameter of the circle of metal, the base is it ? iv got all the parts from radio shack, im at the wrapping my wire part. will copper wire from the middle of home arial coax do ? its 1.00 mm in dia on my digi calipers. Thanks for showing us your stuff. will this be ok from flat 1 to reach up to flat 4 above. basic terraced house size?

  • @sergiomurillo38
    @sergiomurillo38 8 років тому

    good video. The little triangle what materia is,, is posible to do the same material like reflector, thanks,,

  • @backuppx7778
    @backuppx7778 6 років тому

    Hai. If I using cooper wire, how about the matching impedance? Are same with your design? Thanks.

  • @Ike92
    @Ike92 7 років тому

    Thanks Anndrew, I did it, but i doesn´t get better than a 3 dbi omnidirectional antenna. Any advice?

  • @igiesibug9411
    @igiesibug9411 7 років тому

    What if we are only required to create an 800Mhz helica antenna? What are the adjustments that we are going to consider? Thankyou

  • @roran-san
    @roran-san 7 років тому +1

    Don't CP signals change direction when reflected?

  • @kreynolds1123
    @kreynolds1123 8 років тому

    In this video you stated to use a cardboard tube. I am assuming that the cardboard tub's dialectic properties is closer to air, than to say a PVC pipe. Could you make a template for PVC supported tubs?

  • @abokaboussalkhatir2561
    @abokaboussalkhatir2561 10 років тому

    you are the best, thank you

  • @michaelhayes7849
    @michaelhayes7849 5 років тому

    Great job.

  • @zarebre94
    @zarebre94 11 років тому

    tnx for info i have finish building it and it is working fine but i need some info about it to put in my textual part of a exam so do you have something like some wiki page abut mini helical antenna

  • @ederamin9697
    @ederamin9697 3 роки тому

    how do i know how many turns or the spacing between the wires for a specific frequency?

  • @darshakshah8019
    @darshakshah8019 9 років тому

    how you are connecting to laptop usb or it only increases wifi capacity.

  • @leiingreso0126
    @leiingreso0126 8 років тому

    how about the connection? its good but not detailed, may I ask where did you connect it? thank you

  • @88JoeBlasco88
    @88JoeBlasco88 9 років тому

    Very nice video but: 1. your bnc feed connector seems quite a bit offset to the side so the first coil is not really a coil. 2. in all the helix designs I've seen the first coil is starting very close to the ground plane and then gradually going up so that impedance should be close to 50 Ohms. 3. The hypotenuse side of the tin stub is usually soldered to the cable. I am a little puzzled about this type of feeding the cable to the connector...

  • @sergiomurillo38
    @sergiomurillo38 8 років тому

    I built a helical antenna 2.4 ghz, I have to dajarla uncovered? If I put a plastic tube closing completely lost profit? It is just a glass of plastic tube ... appreciate your answer greetings, thanks,,

  • @erik61801
    @erik61801 9 років тому

    Looks nifty, might try this for r/c

  • @zarebre94
    @zarebre94 11 років тому

    hey i am building this for my finial exam in high school and am having some trubble finding that bnc conector that you are using so if you can give ma a exact name of it i would apricite

  • @YO9DOC
    @YO9DOC 3 роки тому

    HOW TO CALIBRATE THIS ANTENA ON THE SWR METER YOU ONLY MAKE THIS ANTENNA BUT WHEN YOU CONECT WITH AMPLIFIER OR WITH ANY EQIPMENT TX 2,4GHZ IT,S POSSIBILE TO BROKEN TO BURN THE TRANSISTOR FINAL

  • @andrewmcneil
    @andrewmcneil  11 років тому +1

    BNC Female connectors chassis panel mount. Have a look on ebay, maplins or rapid electronics.

  • @princedoh
    @princedoh 9 років тому +2

    Show the template dimention

  • @jenniferrippon3509
    @jenniferrippon3509 Рік тому

    What does the metal shim do?

  • @barabucho
    @barabucho 3 роки тому

    I need helical antenna 20dBi on 5.8G,is it possible and how many turns i need?

  • @Magicaz
    @Magicaz 6 років тому

    Please tell me the measurements i don't have printer :(

  • @Vass881234
    @Vass881234 10 років тому +1

    what size paper are you printing the templates on to? if the printer re-sizes its all gone to pot. is there a dimension these templates should be?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  10 років тому +3

      A4 just make sure adobe is not resizing it.

    • @Vass881234
      @Vass881234 10 років тому +1

      thank you

  • @rorykinape
    @rorykinape 10 років тому

    what material is this little piece of metal you use for adjust the impedance is made of?

    • @rorykinape
      @rorykinape 10 років тому

      Can I use a soda can, for instance?

  • @David-Masek
    @David-Masek 6 років тому

    What gives better maximum range (gain) than Helical Antenna? Windsurfer 9dbi, bigger windsurfer 11.4dbi or Double BiQuad 13dbi?

    • @AlienRelics
      @AlienRelics 7 місяців тому

      Your answer is in your question. The number you gave on each antenna is the gain.

  • @tropicaljantie
    @tropicaljantie 7 років тому

    good stuff

  • @lpjunction
    @lpjunction 4 роки тому

    One should design a convertible antennae that the cup could be compressed into a disk and bounce back in a few seconds.

  • @betski
    @betski 9 років тому

    for the cardboard tube, can i use toilet paper or kitchen towel paper tube?

    • @Milosz_Ostrow
      @Milosz_Ostrow 9 років тому

      Listen at 2:48

    • @robnielsen8141
      @robnielsen8141 9 років тому

      he said you could. the critical part is to use the template

  • @Frifler888
    @Frifler888 11 років тому

    Thanke you :)

  • @evilbetty9204
    @evilbetty9204 3 роки тому

    I wanna put that on my goggles...the first one lol

  • @keymaster2108
    @keymaster2108 3 роки тому

    Make a video showing us how to make it because this video doesn't do it.
    What is the diameter of the coils, what is the distance between the coils, how to know what size shim I need, how to know what size reflector I need, and finally fine tuning after its working.
    thanks mate.
    I put one together quickly and I get an extra 5-6 db but thats it

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 роки тому

      Did you not notice the PDF in the description

    • @keymaster2108
      @keymaster2108 3 роки тому

      @@andrewmcneil haha nooo ty. I made this best I could and it was only slightly better and all most placebo I guess Im not sure what to expect so not sure if I failed or not.
      Using Ubuntu airodump-ng for rough data

  • @groovejet33
    @groovejet33 8 років тому

    Nice Hairs!!!

  • @BlackSwordPIERCER
    @BlackSwordPIERCER 7 років тому

    decent af

  • @skinjbir4444
    @skinjbir4444 10 років тому +1

    How much gain can i get with this antenna?

  • @elfnetdesigns702
    @elfnetdesigns702 10 років тому +1

    BNC connectors are not very good at frequencies above 500 MHz. You should use a bulkhead TNC or RP-TNC connector.

    • @erik61801
      @erik61801 9 років тому

      I thought that too (lower bandwidth threshold) till I actually researched the matter. They are good up to 4Ghz.

    • @elfnetdesigns702
      @elfnetdesigns702 9 років тому

      You sure thats not TNC?

    • @erik61801
      @erik61801 9 років тому

      Adriel Elfnet TNC is good to 15Ghz and is basically a threaded BNC connector to combat vibration issues.

    • @YorHighness
      @YorHighness 9 років тому

      N connectors only with lmr400 only.

    • @elfnetdesigns702
      @elfnetdesigns702 9 років тому

      what lol where did you hear that? We use "{N" connectors for many types of cable from RG-8 to heliax

  • @tropicaljantie
    @tropicaljantie 7 років тому +4

    which noodles you recommend? 😂

  • @MdKhairulHasan-axiom
    @MdKhairulHasan-axiom 8 років тому

    nice hairs

  • @vorkev1
    @vorkev1 10 років тому +1

    dus not look like a true Helical its looks like a sprint antenna a Helical has loops in the wire every so often

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  10 років тому +2

      I always assumed John D. Kraus invented the helical antenna

    • @kreynolds1123
      @kreynolds1123 8 років тому

      +vorkev1 andrew's video is a shortened helical antenna with only 3 turns. Instead of loops like you might see in a loop antenna, helix antenna loops/turns are pulled out like a screw and when operate in axial mode give high gain on its tuned center frequency.

  • @fahadwish4795
    @fahadwish4795 3 роки тому

    gd

  • @stargazer7644
    @stargazer7644 8 років тому +3

    I had to stop watching at 2:48 when my bullshit threshold was exceeded. Cross polarized signals (linear or circular) lose about 10 db of gain. Cross polarization is when you transmit with vertical polarization, and receive with horizontal, or if you transmit with right-hand CP and receive with left-hand CP. Using a CP antenna to receive a LP signal loses about 3 db of gain. Every time a circular polarized signal reflects off metal, it reverses handedness. If you send it out left-hand CP, it reflects right-hand CP, and vice-versa. Reflecting linear polarized (LP) signals off metal does not change the polarization at all. The advantage of using a CP antenna to receive LP signals is you don't have to match polarization, but at the cost of 3db of signal. This is especially useful if the source is rotating (such as a satellite), and the polarization orientation may not be known, so you can avoid periodic deep cross polarization nulls.

    • @Friendroid
      @Friendroid 7 років тому

      does this mean a cloverleaf antenna is adequate to receive the signal of a dipole at the expense of 3db? (5.8 GHz video signal)