Vader on Paul Orndorff Fight

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  • @TheHannibalTV
    @TheHannibalTV  7 років тому +32

    Paul Orndorff on Vader fight video link: ua-cam.com/video/14Vosq0_iQw/v-deo.html

    • @Halbared
      @Halbared 5 років тому +2

      Hannibal, what do you think is the truth here?

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +5

      @@Halbared With wrestling stories, the LEAST LIKELY story is bound to be the truth, because wrestlers are PAID to lie.
      Knowing Vader, he could be dangerous if angry, but always quickly realized "oh shit" afterward since he was fearful for his career-- with good reason.

    • @derkdillon5210
      @derkdillon5210 4 роки тому +2

      Well his story is different from everyone else's 🤷 he may have forgotten because he was beaten so badly.

    • @KATBIRD68
      @KATBIRD68 2 роки тому +2

      About Paul orndorff it's always the short guy that has to prove himself!!!

    • @Ditka-89
      @Ditka-89 Рік тому

      Hannibal, the Iron Sheik’s recollection was more in line with Orndorff’s story. Would do you believe?

  • @Jabulani926
    @Jabulani926 5 років тому +149

    They were so jealous and threatened by Leon's ability that they sabotaged his career. Even now they won't induct him into the Hall of Fame. 400+ lbs doing moonsaults off the top, only to have hbk call him stiff.
    RIP Leon! You will always be the man!

    • @jpayne3616
      @jpayne3616 3 роки тому +4

      Yes he will

    • @jrb9191
      @jrb9191 2 роки тому +3

      Everyone called his stiff

    • @t16205
      @t16205 2 роки тому +2

      Vader was the best

    • @oAPXo
      @oAPXo 2 роки тому +3

      Now he's going into the hof. Its gonna be interesting.

    • @famousmortimer7933
      @famousmortimer7933 2 роки тому +1

      I can’t wait to hear what he’ll say.

  • @locutus442
    @locutus442 6 років тому +179

    R.I.P. Leon White a.k.a. Big Van Vader

    • @shawngreene1225
      @shawngreene1225 5 років тому +4

      I didn't know he died RIP

    • @epicpika11
      @epicpika11 Рік тому

      Also RIP Mr Wonderful

    • @desklamp1175
      @desklamp1175 2 місяці тому

      How about getting the information from the witnesses.

  • @danos1011
    @danos1011 8 років тому +52

    such a nice genuine sweet guy outside of the ring.. smart and articulate as well.. legend right here!!

    • @overundersidewaysdown7010
      @overundersidewaysdown7010 7 років тому +9

      Vader Brecker
      I've known Leon since jr. high. We played in the same defensive line in high school. A total ass kicker, who worked harder than anyone else, to make himself into something great. Not an easy guy to know, he could run hot and cold, but ultimately, a good dude who you HAVE to respect...he won't have it any other way.

    • @ThePaudiaz
      @ThePaudiaz 7 років тому

      over under sideways down what do you mean by not an easy guy to know?

  • @abc456f
    @abc456f 8 років тому +68

    Another wrestler confirming the legend of Meng.

  • @ChicoSmood
    @ChicoSmood 3 роки тому +41

    That man was hitting back flips and I use to be terrified as a child of that. RIP to a legend !

  • @mwlaw1974vid
    @mwlaw1974vid 8 років тому +165

    Even Vader publicly acknowledges that you didn't want to mess with Meng

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +7

      EVERYBODY knew you didn't mess with Meng. Samoans wobble but they don't fall down!

    • @nukiepie
      @nukiepie 4 роки тому +12

      Dude every single person in history of pro wrestling has saif u don't fuck with meng

    • @nothing5283
      @nothing5283 3 роки тому +1

      lol john cena would beat that stupid meng in half

    • @jaybird1229
      @jaybird1229 3 роки тому +12

      @@nothing5283 WTF?? John Cena?? Why not the Brooklyn Brawler?? Or, Iron Mike Sharpe?? LMFAO

    • @monbreau7306
      @monbreau7306 2 роки тому +1

      @@nothing5283 Fuck that Communist.

  • @mmafan8407
    @mmafan8407 8 років тому +106

    6:52 "you don't want to mess with Meng". Even Vader was scared of Haku/Meng

    • @sirmelancholia
      @sirmelancholia 8 років тому +16

      MMAfan That's really saying something

    • @douglaspatrick868
      @douglaspatrick868 8 років тому +21

      I met Tonga once, he is the sweetest guy, all about his family and generally being kind and easy, but even now as an old guy the air of potential danger there is very palpable still. Not a guy to disrespect or mistreat people around.

    • @steelcastle5616
      @steelcastle5616 7 років тому +11

      You don't have to fear someone to give them respect for their azz-kick'in capability. Meng was/is a tough guy, but he never played that "fear me" role like some other wrestlers.

    • @Rev201287
      @Rev201287 7 років тому +18

      Meng was like 6 feet 270 lbs.

    • @alnosaints
      @alnosaints 6 років тому +1

      MMAfan rick rude would

  • @MrIZZYDAM
    @MrIZZYDAM 8 років тому +82

    I believe Vader . He was better than everyone . So when the orndoff thing happened the boys blew it out of proportion n orndorff being a egomaniac when along w it .

    • @thefakedeal
      @thefakedeal 6 років тому +4

      freddy fa everyone was lying except Vader. The only guy who had to save face.

    • @tarheelspeighty9645
      @tarheelspeighty9645 6 років тому +7

      Vader was known to be a great guy, and not a liar. So it doesn't fit for him to be a liar about this one thing. Liars lie,lie,lie, and he's known to be a stand up guy.

  • @axelfoley20
    @axelfoley20 6 років тому +58

    Orndorffs' side of the story, along with the "witnesses" has changed. Orndorff says he had sandals on. Tony Schivone says he had regular shoes on. The story changes means, the story is bullshit. I think at this point, Vader's side is closer to truth than Orndorffs.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn 4 роки тому +2

      Same thing with Bruce Prichard, saying there was no way he was making $750,000 a year. Although Bruce is also a lying workin bastard so I know atleast half the shit he says is straight lies....good podcast tho

  • @zackvanhalen
    @zackvanhalen 4 роки тому +66

    I definitely believe Vader. Everything he said sounded sincere and made 100% sense.

    • @glennralph7007
      @glennralph7007 2 роки тому +16

      Everyone else who witnessed this fight says what Paul says. I’ve never heard anyone say what Vader is saying lol. Paul kicked his ass lol

    • @fcoba85
      @fcoba85 2 роки тому +5

      @@glennralph7007 Sounds like Vader was selling the beating well so he'd get in less trouble.

    • @fmthebaron
      @fmthebaron 2 роки тому +13

      @@glennralph7007 Drunk Buff Bagwell said he was there and just recently said Vader got up from Paul's assault and got Paul into the corner and was in control and that's when they broke it up.

    • @jumbothompson
      @jumbothompson 2 роки тому +4

      Foley who actually liked Vader said Leon was never the same after this. I think Paul did get the better of him and it sort of tarnished his rep.

    • @zackvanhalen
      @zackvanhalen 2 роки тому +10

      @@jumbothompson According to Buff Bagwell, Orndorff took Vader down, but Vader got back up and was clearly dominating him. The fight was then quickly broken up when it became clear Vader was going to seriously hurt Paul if the fight continued. It's true Vader was never the same after this because he went to the WWF and was buried by Shawn Michaels, then treated like a joke.

  • @RestorationgroupOrgRIFT
    @RestorationgroupOrgRIFT 6 років тому +79

    LOL, Meng says that's enough, everyone goes still as a statue

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +2

      @Allen Wilson The fact that it's fake, means that there are NO RULES and it's REAL out of the ring, since you're on your own.

    • @fshn4x4
      @fshn4x4 4 роки тому +8

      His vision is based on movement...he can't see us if we don't move 🦖

    • @jaybird1229
      @jaybird1229 3 роки тому +9

      Andre the Giant was scared 😨😳😬of Meng !! Enough said.

    • @thatoks6498
      @thatoks6498 3 роки тому +1

      Meng was no joke, The man can kill you with his bear hands.

    • @shanobi1kanobi
      @shanobi1kanobi 2 роки тому

      who'd have won between Meng and Haku

  • @ARTWV
    @ARTWV 2 роки тому +8

    I seriously doubt Paul beat up Vader. This guy was a beast and so agile for a big man that we all know. God Bless Vader

  • @georgesalgado8642
    @georgesalgado8642 8 років тому +48

    Of all the badass wrestlers who have confirmed Meng's toughness, I hold Vader's admission the highest. I can't even convey in words what that says about the mighty King Tonga.

    • @georgesalgado8642
      @georgesalgado8642 8 років тому +4

      Agreed. I have seen Perry Saturn speaking of Meng but not Bad News Brown yet.

    • @pause1644
      @pause1644 5 років тому +2

      👍

    • @d-mo733
      @d-mo733 4 роки тому +3

      Cage fightn wasnt really even popular then and he wouldnt get paid anywhere near the same dumbass! Thats why..He was a bad man! I met Him

    • @bodybuilder748
      @bodybuilder748 3 роки тому +7

      @@georgesalgado8642 the video of Bad News Brown speaking on Haku's toughness is there on UA-cam. Look for it

    • @georgejackson4426
      @georgejackson4426 2 роки тому +3

      Don the Predator Frye said Haku is a badass. When a UFC Hall of Famer says that I believe him.

  • @soulofanerd9364
    @soulofanerd9364 3 роки тому +10

    Wow this is some powerful insightful stuff from Vader...he keeps making note of his mistakes, gotta respect that. And based on the horrible run in WWE, it absolutely was a big mistake as he said, to leave WCW at that point. Wish he would've never left.

  • @theteddy1487
    @theteddy1487 7 років тому +48

    Seems believable, especially since he said he wouldn't mess with Meng so you know the guy isn't claiming he can't be beaten.

    • @NickErrrr
      @NickErrrr 4 роки тому +4

      That’s what people who got there ass kicked say when they don’t wanna come off as lying about what actually happened...it’s a tactic that gets people to believe your story more

    • @russradoncicx7117
      @russradoncicx7117 4 роки тому +1

      Bro I slapped the shit out meng fohhh

    • @Spooky_515
      @Spooky_515 Рік тому

      @@NickErrrrno matter what happened he didn’t get his ass kicked. He had a black eye at best and didn’t get to finish the fight.

  • @joebarracuda6038
    @joebarracuda6038 2 роки тому +7

    I absolutely believe him, same thing with Shawn, when he stomped Vader's Head for being stiff. Vader could have destroyed that Fruitcake afterwards but didn't do anything because he feared being fired.

  • @BURN1NGx1NS1D3
    @BURN1NGx1NS1D3 7 років тому +27

    "It was like my 12 year old son punching me in the face." LOL

  • @davidstufflebean3285
    @davidstufflebean3285 6 років тому +18

    Yeah, I am going with Leon on this flip-flops at a TV show, Paul was already having medical issues and no strength in his arm that he slapped him with, love Mr.Wonderful but not buying his story.

  • @nickdehart5702
    @nickdehart5702 6 років тому +20

    RIP Vader. We will all miss you terribly.

  • @kv9104
    @kv9104 6 років тому +63

    you can tell vaders telling the truth

    • @robertjones6295
      @robertjones6295 4 роки тому +3

      Vader was one of my favorite

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +8

      I believe him, but you never know with pro wrestlers; they're PAID to lie.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +1

      @Morpheus Fishburn But he wanted to KEEP his job, so he would let Orndorff have a free shot.
      I don't believe Orndorff was in any shape to hurt Vader; on Wrestlemania XXX, he needed a cane to walk, and Gene Okerlund had to identify him because he was not recognizable to the audience, even though Roddy Piper and Mr. T were.

    • @stevesmith9459
      @stevesmith9459 3 роки тому +10

      Every other recount says otherwise!

    • @ronniemacdonald2768
      @ronniemacdonald2768 3 роки тому +4

      @@SovereignStatesman What the fuck does a Wrestlemania 20 years later have to do with it? Is Vader in much better shape considering he's dead?

  • @REPVILE
    @REPVILE 6 років тому +14

    I believe this version over the others. Orndorffs story never did sit right.

  • @brainynbrawny9562
    @brainynbrawny9562 7 років тому +35

    I remember seeing Orndorff and that nerve damage issue he had with that arm - it was quite visibly smaller. I find it hard to believe that Orndorff could hurt Vader - Vader's just so damn big...

    • @SignOfTheTimes008
      @SignOfTheTimes008 3 роки тому +12

      In his prime he may have, but not then. I believe Vader is right how this really happened.

    • @Hallo_215
      @Hallo_215 2 роки тому +10

      @@SignOfTheTimes008 Tony Shiavone was right there and confirmed that Orndorff beat the piss out of Vader, and that Vader initiated the fight. Orndorff put him down on the ground and stomped a mudhole into his head while Vader was screaming for someone to get him Orndorff off of him. He spoke about it on a WHW podcast with Conrad Thompson.

    • @SignOfTheTimes008
      @SignOfTheTimes008 2 роки тому +3

      @@Hallo_215 Well recent interviews I watched showed Vader as a reckless worker, so maybe he had it coming.

    • @joelpocalips
      @joelpocalips 2 роки тому +3

      @@SignOfTheTimes008 yeah look up the match where he "breaks" a jobbers back in wcw. He was unnecessarily rough to some dudes. And he was slapping that guy around. It's one thing if the two guys agree to go hard on each other. I'm a huge vader fan, but you can't avoid reality.

    • @SignOfTheTimes008
      @SignOfTheTimes008 2 роки тому +4

      @@joelpocalips I hate seeing jobbers get hurt, its reckless and unnecessary and shows unprofessionalism.

  • @johnny5805
    @johnny5805 10 місяців тому +3

    I always thought Orndorff's story was suspicious. I'm sorry that Vader's reputation is still sullied to this day by this story. I'm glad he at least got a chance to put across his side of the story.

  • @deandreparker5820
    @deandreparker5820 7 років тому +16

    anybody who doesn't remember Paul orndorff's arm was all the way jacked up in 95 when The Horseman power drove him on the floor on Nitro if anybody believes that Paul Orndorff beat up Vader is not in their right mind if you're real wrestling fan and you have the network go back and look at that and you will see exactly what Vader is talking about

    • @jimh.412
      @jimh.412 6 років тому +1

      Really? Stone Cold was there and said Orndorff was kicking the shit out of Vader in flip flops and would've almost killed him if someone wouldn't have broken it up. Orndorff was a tough mofo.

    • @r0ckstar666
      @r0ckstar666 6 років тому +1

      I believe Orndorff. Other people confirm Orndorff's version also is why I believe

    • @daniel022209
      @daniel022209 5 років тому +3

      @@jimh.412 how in the hell was Austin there when Bischoff fired him from the company earlier that year? Austin was wrestling in ECW by this time before he went to the WWF.

    • @tomtanaka841
      @tomtanaka841 5 років тому +1

      People still believe that old decrepit piece of trash could beat the shit out of Vader. hahaha
      Vader could have killed him if he really tried!

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 3 роки тому +1

      @@jimh.412 Austin was gone from WCW by that point. So...he lied. Just like Orndorff.

  • @excelsciors
    @excelsciors 6 років тому +8

    May your soul live on forever Mr. Leon White Van Vader! Thank you for entertaining us on TV!

  • @jonathanhensley6141
    @jonathanhensley6141 3 роки тому +3

    Yes the old wrestlers up to 1989 were jealous of Vader because he was way more talented than most of them. Jim Ross said they brought Vader into WCW because they needed physicality and toughness. WCW and WWE really had no idea of what to do with Vader especially after they brought Hogan into wcw.

  • @suoppsdn9751
    @suoppsdn9751 7 років тому +21

    Paul has always been a hot head. I can totally see it happening like Vader said it happened

    • @satan3959
      @satan3959 6 років тому

      Yet SEVERAL witnesses who were actually in the locker room at the time actually CONFIRM Paul's side

    • @tomtanaka841
      @tomtanaka841 5 років тому +6

      Vader let him live, he could have killed him if he wanted, stupid fuck!

    • @mvpsmb2000
      @mvpsmb2000 2 роки тому

      @@satan3959 and each and every one of those guys clearly disliked Vader. They all viewed him as a jerk and/or bully. So by jumping on the bandwagon together with the laughable story of Paul getting the upper hand, they get rid of a back stage jerk, a stiff worker, and headline spot holder… or they perpetuate his tough guy rep over a sickly back stage manager. Come on, I think we can all see what happened here.

  • @Luispbringstheheat
    @Luispbringstheheat 8 років тому +21

    Even at the age he is Vader is still one intimidating looking son of a bitch

  • @OZZ___
    @OZZ___ 7 років тому +6

    4:26 HE HIT THE GROUND HARD, I SLAPPED THE SHIT OUT OF HIM LMAO

  • @wagsoman
    @wagsoman 3 роки тому +2

    Many wrestlers have said that Paul Orndorff was a legit badass. Vader was no doubt tough as he showed in some of his matches over his career. you never hear about any backstage fights or outside the arena involving Vader. The stories of Paul Orndorff fighting have been confirmed by many wrestlers and he noted as one of the strongest from his era. I believe Paul Orndorff s story before he passed. Yes he had injuries that severely changed his body but a true fighter never gives up or back down from anyone. Vader was retired and he should be humble and admit he got his as s handed to him.

  • @bigL.98
    @bigL.98 3 роки тому +7

    "If thats not good enough for you,you can go f*** yourself" vader is real as it get's💯🤣

  • @shawnreedy418
    @shawnreedy418 4 роки тому +14

    I love Big Van , and I love Mr. Wonderful. But at the point of each of their careers at this point, Vader was bigger and stronger. Yes he performed stiff, and did a lot of bully shoots, and Van has admitted to that. But Orndorff was lucky to still be breathing. Just my opinion. Orndorff’s health was shot.

    • @ninowaves4061
      @ninowaves4061 Рік тому +1

      Orndorff knocked the shyt out of him…everyone confirmed that. Rip to both legends

  • @bcgoldengamer
    @bcgoldengamer 8 років тому +13

    Good to see Leon. Thank's Devon.

    • @krlm2280
      @krlm2280 6 років тому +1

      Golden Gamer rip vader

  • @danos1011
    @danos1011 8 років тому +7

    I was surprised to hear that orndorff could take on vader and beat him... glad Vader Cleared that up!!

  • @nanefresh
    @nanefresh 8 років тому +28

    unbeknownst to him a short while later Shawn Michaels would kill his career in WWF

    • @ToonandBBfan
      @ToonandBBfan 8 років тому +20

      Vader would have killed Michaels in a real fight

    • @MGSBigBoss77
      @MGSBigBoss77 8 років тому +14

      Most people Shawn got booked to win over would've killed him in a real shoot fight!

    • @ToonandBBfan
      @ToonandBBfan 8 років тому +14

      MGSBigBoss77 I think Paul Bearer could nearly have chinned Shawn Michaels

    • @box5bastard277
      @box5bastard277 8 років тому +2

      but that's wrestling! yeah the older days they would book someone who could really handle themselves as champion in most cases, but that don't mean that they would be the best draw for the company. I mean I always wanted to see meng/haku as world champion, but it never happened but I'm not mad about it yell

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros4419
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros4419 8 років тому +7

      Like someone said about pro wrestling: had anyone stepped into a real fight with Meng, they could have ended up murdered

  • @LAVAROCK100
    @LAVAROCK100 8 років тому +10

    even vader said you don't mess with Meng that would be a mistake

  • @lostways27
    @lostways27 8 років тому +15

    Vader vs the nWo would have been classic, Vader vs 3 guys, 4 guys, 5 guys...!!

  • @johnfrye1034
    @johnfrye1034 2 роки тому +10

    Ming was no joke, I heard he once had a staring contest with the sun, and won!

  • @pd9971
    @pd9971 6 років тому +27

    His recollection of the Orndorff incident is way different than all the other wrestlers that actually witnessed the fight!

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +10

      Yeah wrestlers who wanna keep their JOBS because Orndorff was a head manager.
      Meanwhile Meng never said any different

    • @etherdetroit1977
      @etherdetroit1977 4 роки тому +12

      @@SovereignStatesman weird how their stories are still the same decades later.

    • @FuuuckOffff
      @FuuuckOffff 4 роки тому +3

      He's making excuses. He let him hit him, he wasnt wearing boots. He's lying.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +3

      @@etherdetroit1977 So are urban legends.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 роки тому +4

      @@FuuuckOffff Sure, because no wrestler EVER let someone hit them on purpose.
      You really think Bret Hart punched Vince across a room full of wrestlers?
      Vince SOLD it to Bret, to settle his feewings. Same here.

  • @jk56f2
    @jk56f2 8 років тому +41

    man it would be great if someone could turn these old grudges amongst wrestlers into a ppv shoot fight special

    • @SatanicNecrolust
      @SatanicNecrolust 6 років тому +3

      Fights that would suck because they'd gas in seconds and itd look sloppy....you really want to see that?

    • @tommyhallum4207
      @tommyhallum4207 6 років тому +3

      Yeah a bunch of 60,70 year old men fighting it out. I have a feeling it wouldn't be as entertaining as you would like it to be.

    • @jaybird1229
      @jaybird1229 3 роки тому +1

      @@tommyhallum4207 Agreed!! Plus this ' match ' would be between a dead man ( Vader ) and someone dying of cancer ( Orndoff ).

    • @michaelterrell5061
      @michaelterrell5061 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaybird1229 And now Mr Wonderful has passed.

    • @jaybird1229
      @jaybird1229 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelterrell5061 Unfortunately, yes. IMO, the best heel ever. At least he's no longer suffering.

  • @StrongStyleNinja
    @StrongStyleNinja 6 років тому +61

    Vader’s story is more believable than Orndorff’s side.

    • @rklein40
      @rklein40 6 років тому +10

      1 major problem, not one witness backs Vader's story. There are at least 6 witnesses on youtube that where there that backs Paul's story.

    • @box5bastard277
      @box5bastard277 6 років тому +4

      @@rklein40 because they didn't like Vader! And in Paul's rf shoot he says they went again and "he hit me with a few shots" folk leave that part out all the time yell

    • @rklein40
      @rklein40 6 років тому +4

      @@box5bastard277 I was wrong, there are about 8-10 guys that back Paul's story. Not all wrestlers either. They all say Vader got beat. They don't all hate Vader. 1 issue though, some say sandals, some say boots.

    • @satan3959
      @satan3959 6 років тому +1

      rklien40
      WERE there not WHERE there, you moron
      WHERE is a location like WHERE are you going? Fucking morons today

    • @maxililianadamalexdyhr9700
      @maxililianadamalexdyhr9700 5 років тому

      20 % is lying. to many is saying what happened u were an ashole to others to

  • @BossChronicles
    @BossChronicles 6 років тому +7

    R.I.P. Vader

  • @markmullins5822
    @markmullins5822 6 років тому +14

    "Wrestlers are horrible people"
    -Road Dogg

    • @kyleday5026
      @kyleday5026 4 роки тому

      where did he say that

    • @mcdonseggfart7070
      @mcdonseggfart7070 4 роки тому +2

      In 2020 it is all a bunch of vape smoking, 190lbs, half of them virgin, twitter addicts who do gymnastics in their underwear

    • @ScrewTime
      @ScrewTime 6 місяців тому

      @@mcdonseggfart7070 Haha what are you on about

    • @foreverunsaved6661
      @foreverunsaved6661 26 днів тому

      ​- I have no idea what that commenter is on about, but I do know one thing - he is 100% right.

  • @SUPERTROOPER89
    @SUPERTROOPER89 2 роки тому +3

    Its time...its time...its respect for Vader time. Rest in peace big man

  • @NYKgjl10
    @NYKgjl10 8 років тому +8

    Vader is the man!!

  • @luish777
    @luish777 4 роки тому +6

    I think Orndorff had loyalties with some of the guys they didn't want to burn him.I believe Vader's story yea he took some boots but totally beat down don't think so plus like he said Paul was hurt.Many were jealous of Vader he was stiff and he was getting paid$$.Vader was not one of the boys.

  • @mbowlen34
    @mbowlen34 8 років тому +52

    Even Vader is afraid of Meng (Haku)

  • @AndrewNewZealand
    @AndrewNewZealand 4 роки тому +3

    Regardless of how honest he is, I love listening to Leon.

  • @TrenchcoatNinja3
    @TrenchcoatNinja3 6 років тому +9

    R.I.P. Vader. Wrestling will not be the same without you.

  • @Heavyweight-kh8ss
    @Heavyweight-kh8ss 2 роки тому +3

    Paul Orndorff was my grandfather's cousin (Kenneth Orndorff). I never met Paul unfortunately. By the time I was born 1983, Paul was a star and busy with wrestling. My grandfather too died from throat cancer.

  • @mikeperry7335
    @mikeperry7335 8 років тому +4

    man I don't think I've heard anybody say they can take Haku which is crazy in the wrestling world were everyone bullshits just because we'll new jack said he'd hide in a bush and hit him with a cinder block but he was probably cracked out of his mind so he don't count would've loved to see Haku in his prime fight 3 random guys in a bar

  • @musclemark2710
    @musclemark2710 6 років тому +4

    Vader is one of my favorites!

  • @cribertot9649
    @cribertot9649 6 років тому +9

    Vader's story sounds more legit than Nash and show off orndorrf

    • @tomtanaka841
      @tomtanaka841 5 років тому +2

      Nash is a liar and he is dumb as a rock. He was in the WWF at that time, he's lying about being backstage when that happened.

  • @runningsuperska
    @runningsuperska 2 роки тому +1

    Stories always get blown out of proportion.

  • @TirthBArya
    @TirthBArya 6 років тому +3

    Vader is so great... Wish I'd seen more of his matches back then.

  • @JustinTNAWWEGuy
    @JustinTNAWWEGuy 8 років тому +40

    I never believed Paul's story about this fight. Vader would have killed him if he wanted to

    • @8kigana
      @8kigana 6 років тому

      he was a very mobile athletic 100 lbs heavier than him.

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy2282 4 роки тому +1

    ....what a badass. Love Vader dude should be in hall of fame...like yesterday

  • @stevehalli1538
    @stevehalli1538 2 роки тому +3

    I 100% believe Vaders story. I never liked Paul Ondorff to begin with.
    Rest easy Leon.

  • @Azomorat
    @Azomorat 7 років тому +26

    I buy Leons version.

  • @Halbared
    @Halbared Рік тому +1

    I'd love you to get Haku's commentary on this incident. He's the one I'd believe above all. Vader's sounds a lot more plausible than the rest of he ones, ore than half who weren't even there.

  • @The_Drifter_13
    @The_Drifter_13 2 роки тому +2

    I believe Leon’s account of the incident. It seems much more plausible.

  • @1983jblack
    @1983jblack 5 років тому +1

    Oh, how Vader was misused at the end of his WCW run and his entire WWF run. He was extremely talented and had a great character and persona. I think both he and Sid Vicious (He'll always be Vicious and not Sycho Sid or Sid Justice to me) were dealt bad hands. Both of them featured prominently in the WWF Attitiude era would have been nuts. Vader v Foley, Sid v Taker, and various combos between those four would have been fantastic. Vader in HIAC would have been brutal. I could see him going up top but falling off would be another thing

  • @BigPoppa23
    @BigPoppa23 6 років тому +1

    Good video! ✌

  • @jeffreyross71
    @jeffreyross71 3 роки тому +3

    Orndorff kicked vaders ass wearing flip flops

  • @alexchambers564
    @alexchambers564 8 років тому +15

    I AM TRULY BELIEVING WHAT VADER SAYS BECAUSE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY IS GENUINE MOST LEGIT THAN PAUL ORDORFF AS WELL VADER IS THE MOST IN THE HUMILITY FACTOR OF THE TRUTH THAN PAUL, TOO!
    QUESTION! QUESTION TO PAUL ORDORFF UNTIL THIS DAY WHY IS HE STILL GLOATING, BOASTING, BRAGGING, PATTING HIMSELF ON THE BACK INSTEAD LET BY GONE BE BY GONE WHEN BOTH PARTIES ESPECIALLY HEARING FROM PAUL ON ONE OF HIS INTERVIEW BOTH FORGAVE EACH OTHER AND HE IS STILL PUTTING HIMSELF ON THE PETISTOL YEARS LATER, EVEN NOW!
    LET IT GO PAUL, IT IS DONE AND OVER, BIG VAN VADER DID THIS UNTIL EVERYONE WANTS TO DISRESPECT VADER AND BE ON ORDORFF BANDWAGON INSTEAD THAT YEARS LATER OF YOUR BRING UP THIS ISSUES, VADER FINALLY HAVE TO TELL HIS SIDE FOR THERE IS TWO SIDES OF EVERY STORY SO LET THIS STUFF DIED PAUL ORDORFF FOR WHO KNOWS YOU ARE PROBABLY JEALOUS OF BIG VAN VADER ANY WAY SINCE HE HAD A BEST CAREER IN WRESTLING THAN YOU DID SO SAYING THE TRUTH, OOPS LET IT GO, ORDORFF!
    IT'S VADER TIME!
    Alex!

    • @satan3959
      @satan3959 6 років тому

      Typing in all caps: always a sign of a low IQ

  • @Michael-fc4ch
    @Michael-fc4ch Рік тому +1

    When vader says you don't wanna mess with someone it's the truth.

  • @0ldFrittenfett
    @0ldFrittenfett 4 роки тому +8

    I believe Vaders side. Even with both arms and without flip flops he would have stood no chance. And I've never fought anyone in my life. I'm a peaceful man. But Vader knew how to fight for real. He played football.

  • @kriegpaolo
    @kriegpaolo 7 років тому +2

    Yeah I dont know whats up with all these ol timers...Piper (RIP) was bullshitting about throwing out Kevin Nash out of a room, a small n somewhat disabled Orndorff was bullshitting about beating the crap out of Vader...smh

  • @jpayne3616
    @jpayne3616 3 роки тому +3

    Wtf?? Those that really loved wrestling in the 90's KNEW Vader EARNED that money. Jealous ass Flair. Vader was so fucking believable man. He damn well deserved what he was making

  • @84slaughter
    @84slaughter 8 років тому +7

    VADER TIME!!!

  • @thejoker2846
    @thejoker2846 6 років тому +6

    RIP Vader 😢

  • @ericbutton222
    @ericbutton222 5 років тому +4

    I believe Vader 100 %
    Vader was 350 pounds, orndorff 200 with a bad, thin arm.

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 7 років тому +5

    Vader could have made Paul Orndorff his bitch, he could have squashed him like a bug.

  • @Picasso_305
    @Picasso_305 3 місяці тому +1

    Pauls arm at that time was in terrible shape from continual nerve danage. Could not train much and was no longer 265 pounds.

  • @MC-rf8sx
    @MC-rf8sx 5 років тому +2

    Vader seems pretty cool I don't understand why people come at him..I wonder if it's all about Vader being pushed and other wrestler's being bitter..idk

  • @Chuc_9600
    @Chuc_9600 5 років тому +2

    "He hit the ground hard! I slapped the shit out of him"! 😂

    • @scaryanima9268
      @scaryanima9268 2 роки тому +1

      He was saying it as I scrolled past your comment.

  • @tuckamojo7660
    @tuckamojo7660 2 роки тому +1

    Vader comes off very honest and genuine. I believe his side of the story

  • @johncourt6895
    @johncourt6895 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve always noticed that the bigger a guy is the bigger heart he has. Vader was a class act. I don’t think he really wanted to hurt anyone.

  • @michaelmclaren1333
    @michaelmclaren1333 Рік тому +1

    Vader did have a good point. Who's boss is wearing shower shoes aka flip flops. What kind of "boss" would be wearing flip flops?

  • @RandomAssaultPodcast
    @RandomAssaultPodcast 8 років тому

    Forgive my ignorance, but at 3:34 he says something about getting a hose for a pump, is that similar to Warrior wearing the tassels up above the bicep to make his biceps look even bigger? I'm really confused lol

    • @TheHannibalTV
      @TheHannibalTV  8 років тому +7

      Rubber hoses are used to pump up before events by bodybuilders and often wrestlers. The provide a little resistance and get blood flowing into the muscles. He's not talking about something you tie on your arms like Warrior did.

    • @RandomAssaultPodcast
      @RandomAssaultPodcast 8 років тому +1

      THE HANNIBAL TV oooooh ok that makes way more sense, thanks!

    • @esmeraldacisneros4919
      @esmeraldacisneros4919 8 років тому

      Chris Benoit

    • @minabarsoum2212
      @minabarsoum2212 8 років тому

      Random Assault Podcas

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo 7 років тому +4

    vader was great. legend

  • @s.mas.w
    @s.mas.w 7 років тому +3

    I believe Robert Fullers version, he didn’t have a dog in the fight and was a unbiased witness

  • @nantahalarat
    @nantahalarat 5 років тому +5

    I believe Kevin Sullivan's version!

  • @chadgray5872
    @chadgray5872 4 роки тому +3

    It seems to me it's Vader against the world, if everyone is talking shit on you, it's probably true. Leon was a lying sociopath, he could not be trusted. He loved to hurt people, and he loved to lie.

  • @AceGoodheart
    @AceGoodheart 8 років тому +21

    Vader is more believable than Orndorff. Plus you can't always go by what Orndorff says.

    • @manutdtv2533
      @manutdtv2533 7 років тому +2

      lol it's obvious Orndorff started the shit but the fat prick deserved it. He treated anyone he could like shit and karma bit him on the ass.

    • @barrybolder7810
      @barrybolder7810 7 років тому

      mrbadguysan I've heard about 20 shoot interviews where guys bury Vader. He was a prick to whoever he could get away with it and was very disliked. That's why when this fight happened there was a collective cheer and Vader was painted as the shit disturber who got his ass handed to him when that wasn't what happened.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 6 років тому

      barry bolder You mean you've watched a bunch of UA-cam videos where guys are telling stories about the past 2, 3, 4, 5+ decades in a niche entertainment industry and you've ASSumed where everyone stands on this guy and that guy and that group, probably with a little influence from your own feelings as well.
      No, just because someone tells a story from x amount of time ago about an incident that they may have not even been involved with doesn't mean that this person has feelings one way or another about the person in the story.
      Really, why the hell does this have to be explained? "Someone told a negative story about someone else - guess they really must hate them", No shit you know that human interaction is more complex than that.

  • @mikeperry7335
    @mikeperry7335 8 років тому +3

    that arm thing must've sucked for Paul guy was jacked then that shit happend and he still wrestled for a bit with it u can see him on the early nitros and it's like he has to diffrent arms

  • @WEHRWULF8814
    @WEHRWULF8814 4 роки тому +1

    Two years gone today RIP

  • @philvacanti1446
    @philvacanti1446 2 роки тому +2

    The pinnacle of Vader's career was when he guest starred on "Boy Meets World" as Frankie Stuccino' father.

  • @TutorialKing
    @TutorialKing 6 років тому +1

    Interesting watching this after listening to Bischoff on the 83 weeks podcast. Mainly about Vader's release and how much guys were making at the time.

  • @b_side8669
    @b_side8669 3 роки тому +3

    Vader might’ve felt it was a big mistake to jump ship at the time but honestly would Eric have kept his word ?

  • @TheComedyColosseum
    @TheComedyColosseum 6 років тому

    11:53 when your mom says she's not angry, she's disappointed.

  • @markandes9314
    @markandes9314 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t know…both guys were legit badasses, but damn, Vader put his eyeball back in and finished his match with Stan Hansen, I just can’t see 3 punches putting Vader out.

  • @MarmaladeMilkshake
    @MarmaladeMilkshake 8 років тому +1

    There was disrespect from both sides which saw it escalate. Neither party was in the right. However Vader was a bully and a prick behind the scenes and Orndorff was well liked and respected which is why there was a collective cheer in the locker room when it went down and it's been written that Orndorff kicked his ass.

    • @MarmaladeMilkshake
      @MarmaladeMilkshake 8 років тому

      ***** I think if Orndorff didn't have his arm fucked up and he was in better shape it would have been close. Yes Vader is a big fucker but he's also a pussy at the same time which Cornette alluded to and Vader also fucked with Steve Blackman but then backed down when Blackman wanted to fight him.

  • @lokilukman5981
    @lokilukman5981 6 років тому +1

    oohh.. poor leon white a.k.a big bear van vader I really miss him..😢😭 have a very sweet memories in video recording on youtube😊☺️...

  • @Criticalthinker0515
    @Criticalthinker0515 8 місяців тому +1

    Rip. Vader and Rip. Paul. O.

  • @battlestarmarc
    @battlestarmarc Рік тому

    Vader was a good heel in WCW with Harley race as his manager.
    Vader and race were a great team.

  • @markmullins5822
    @markmullins5822 6 років тому +3

    Rest Easy Big Man

  • @WartTheChipmunk
    @WartTheChipmunk 2 роки тому +1

    On stone colds podcast he said Paul caught Vader with a left and dropped him and then stomped him out with flip flops on

  • @mvpsmb2000
    @mvpsmb2000 2 роки тому +1

    Ok, so the majority of “flip flop” story teller wrestlers clearly disliked Vader. They all viewed him as a jerk and/or bully. So by jumping on the bandwagon together with the laughable story of Paul getting the upper hand, they get rid of a back stage jerk, a stiff worker, and headline spot holder… or they could be honest and perpetuate his tough guy rep over a sickly back stage manager. Come on, I think we can all see what happened here.