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  • @regal_7877
    @regal_7877 5 років тому +1185

    I know this will probably get lost in the comments but I have to say it. I absolutely have a high respect for people like you who share knowledge so freely and willingly. People like you are a godsend. Thank you sincerely.

    • @不知所错
      @不知所错 3 роки тому +23

      it didn't get lost in the comments!!!!!!

    • @theonetrueanthonylong1843
      @theonetrueanthonylong1843 3 роки тому +14

      @@不知所错 We're all lost my friend.

    • @jonramsey6348
      @jonramsey6348 3 роки тому +10

      I totally agree dude…. we’re so fortunate to have people like this dude

    • @maesterwillyofthehouseofboink
      @maesterwillyofthehouseofboink 2 роки тому +5

      Came up as the first comment... 🙂 The mysterious ways of the youtube algorithm will never be comprehensible for us "ordinary people" 😎

    • @VladIDrago
      @VladIDrago 2 роки тому +5

      This guy is DATA from Startrek ];-D.

  • @mikaelmrup3196
    @mikaelmrup3196 4 роки тому +374

    Six years later, this is still the best and most understandable intro to Op Amps ever.

    • @theonetrueanthonylong1843
      @theonetrueanthonylong1843 3 роки тому +6

      This is the first instance where a lecturer explains that op amps should'nt be treated as the same amplifiers theyre made of and that broke the wall id been stuck behind. Catching up on homework as I watch. Wish me luck.

    • @kimotroph9683
      @kimotroph9683 2 роки тому +4

      That's for sure. I wish I had professor like him.

    • @goranvuletic8873
      @goranvuletic8873 2 роки тому +4

      One reason that I have never excelled in school is because most of my teachers were the oposite of this guy, their lectures were dull and incomplete.

    • @VladIDrago
      @VladIDrago 2 роки тому +2

      This guy is DATA from Startrek ];-D.

    • @bosborn1
      @bosborn1 2 роки тому +3

      Had to watch this video to make sense of my class lecture on op amps. Funny that I have to watch a free video to make sense of a paid class

  • @keithminchin1817
    @keithminchin1817 2 роки тому +35

    I find myself revisiting this tutorial as a refresher every time I need to incorporate an OpAmp into one of my projects. Thanks Dave! 👍🏻

  • @jaguarpaw1638
    @jaguarpaw1638 5 років тому +436

    this video got me my first electronic job i watched this video before my interview and they quizzed me on op amps! the luck!

    • @AhirZamanSairi
      @AhirZamanSairi 4 роки тому +27

      Wow good for you! :) That's so weird. Reminds me of a line from the movie predestination, "luck, is the residue of planning." It's so true. When you work hard for something, luck helps you along the way, more often than not in bad situations. Was that the case with you? Btw I'm in my 3rd year in EE, my school isn't so glorious if u know what I mean. So It's hard trying to become an autodidact, especially with complex matters which don't always have the clear specific explaination on the internet... Sorry for rambling lol

    • @microdesigns2000
      @microdesigns2000 4 роки тому +5

      So, do you still have your job Jaguar paw?

    • @jaguarpaw1638
      @jaguarpaw1638 4 роки тому +24

      @@microdesigns2000 The job this video helped me get was a great place to start I had an excellent mentor there and i worked there for 2 years.
      I have since changed employer with a more embedded and programming focus I have been at this subsequent job for 2 years and 2 months now!
      Although it was over 4 years ago i still remember the night before the interview trying to cover everyrhing they might ask and watching great videos like this.

    • @microdesigns2000
      @microdesigns2000 4 роки тому +6

      @@jaguarpaw1638 That's awesome. I'd love to hear what kind of designs you are working on, without posting anything proprietary.

    • @jaguarpaw1638
      @jaguarpaw1638 3 роки тому +11

      @@microdesigns2000 I work mainly on low power IoT projects now . I also do home projects too . id like to start my own electronics design business one day!

  • @RRClassicman
    @RRClassicman 9 років тому +616

    I Learned more in 10 min of your video than 1 month of my Power Control Electronics class. Thank you!!!!!

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  9 років тому +107

      +RRClassicman Glad to hear! (well, kinda...)

    • @KennethTanFotografie
      @KennethTanFotografie 9 років тому +35

      +RRClassicman Well 50 minutes in my case. It changed my biased "OMG an OpAmp" to "OpAmps, I love'em"

    • @jasincolegrove6651
      @jasincolegrove6651 9 років тому +7

      +Kenneth Tan blew my mind when I finally figured out why they use a buffer on an inverting op-amp. It's the simple things that others take for granted. These videos are chucked full of informational tid bits one should store away
      my understanding of circuit design is getting better with each eevblog

    • @bladerunner114
      @bladerunner114 9 років тому +7

      +RRClassicman This is true fact about formal education, mostly in schools you learn almost nothing! That is situacion in Croatia, just a lot of unnecessary material with zero interactivity with the student

    • @bonbonpony
      @bonbonpony 8 років тому +1

      +Blade Runner Well, in a UA-cam video, there's also 0 interactivity with the student ;) Other than that, you're 100% right.

  • @MarkJay
    @MarkJay 7 років тому +712

    "The gain is almost infinite"
    spoken like a true engineer!

    • @robertkokal2511
      @robertkokal2511 4 роки тому

      A power speaker guidance glee Iowa amp it up yeah

    • @youtubegoogle4163
      @youtubegoogle4163 3 роки тому

      48:40
      Can anybody please tell me the reason of this ?

    • @DeAttila
      @DeAttila 3 роки тому +1

      @@youtubegoogle4163 I just gave this reaction below, but i think it's the sink current working very close to the maximum rating:
      the sink current for Vout=200mV is only 50uA, and goes quickly up to 20mA at Vo=2V. Because of the 10k resitor for R2 it's working very close to it's maximum ratings at the lower end. 0.5V out is 50uA sink current. And (apparently) in practice this results in the weird ground spike that fck ups the output.

    • @RijuChatterjee
      @RijuChatterjee 3 роки тому

      @@youtubegoogle4163 Looks like crossover distortion, the switch from sinking to sourcing current... and at the point when this happens the opamp is neither sinking nor sourcing correctly, so the negative feedback stops working properly and the input voltage is allowed to spike momentarily.

    • @jenniferwhitewolf3784
      @jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 роки тому

      and the open loop bandwidth is darn near zero Hz.

  • @mirkomueller3412
    @mirkomueller3412 8 років тому +239

    what makes you a gorgeous teacher is that you not only talk about what is going on but also about what the follower might think is going on but actually is not and why. i had so many frustrating experiences in the past because of teachers that did'nt care about that. i truly love your lessons.

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 7 років тому +5

      Mirko Mueller it's also great to see someone enthusiastic about what he does.

    • @HighestRank
      @HighestRank 6 років тому +2

      Mirko Mueller So are you enthralled?

    • @kenthuang654
      @kenthuang654 5 років тому +2

      A good teacher.

    • @youtubegoogle4163
      @youtubegoogle4163 3 роки тому +1

      48:40
      Can anybody please tell me the reason of this ?

  • @neilalbaugh4793
    @neilalbaugh4793 3 роки тому +123

    As a retired Senior Applications Engineer at Burr-Brown and Texas Instruments, I must compliment you on this presentation! It is very similar to the "factory" technical presentations that we used to give to audiences around the globe. The technical level is just right, not to basic and not too advanced. Good job! To be a good teacher it takes far more than just knowledge of the subject. A teacher's job is to impart knowledge to his student; if the student doesn't understand, the teacher is not doing his job. Some PhDs can teach, others can't- Richard Feynman was an example of a fellow who not only thoroughly understood his subject but who could teach it as well.... and do it in an interesting and entertaining manner.

    • @naveengupta5588
      @naveengupta5588 2 роки тому

      How i can get a job in TI ?😅😅😅i mean its awkward to ask this way but yeah
      Sorry beforehand 😅😅

    • @neilalbaugh4793
      @neilalbaugh4793 2 роки тому +1

      @@naveengupta5588 The best way is to send in a copy of your resume. Good luck- the world needs more analog engineers.

    • @Catch_me_if_can
      @Catch_me_if_can Рік тому

      ​@@neilalbaugh4793 could you please suggest best book for Analog electronics for beginners

    • @SibahleMseleku
      @SibahleMseleku 5 місяців тому

      But that isn't always the case. A teacher can be competent, but only to find that he's teaching students who don't study.

  • @kevinjad4506
    @kevinjad4506 5 років тому +243

    In my whole electronics major shit , I have never seen a person who explains virtual ground like this.
    #RESPECT

    • @StEvUgnIn
      @StEvUgnIn 4 роки тому +3

      This term makes no sense

    • @azdinator
      @azdinator 4 роки тому +3

      @@StEvUgnIn Abolutely no sense.

    • @robertkokal2511
      @robertkokal2511 4 роки тому +1

      He’s amazing love it,,I’ll figure it out virtual ground oupps

    • @robertkokal2511
      @robertkokal2511 4 роки тому

      It’s spiritual

    • @marcvictor5305
      @marcvictor5305 4 роки тому

      @@StEvUgnIn Does the "virtual ground" means 0V ?? If so then it really doesn't make any sense 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @flash001USA
    @flash001USA 10 років тому +58

    Very helpful. I'm an electronics technician and you see this stuff when you're doing repairs or troubleshooting but you never get down to the nitty gritty details especially after 30+ or so years goes by from your initial electronics training so it was really nice of you to explain this especially on layman's terms. Someone else mentioned in this blog about cutting and pasting working circuits into projects and calculating as you went along to fit your needs which is pretty much what I've done in the past so this has really been a BIG help in the memory refresh department. Thank you ten times over and may the "electro" Gods shine good fortune down upon you sir!

    • @CatalinMinulescu
      @CatalinMinulescu 10 років тому +1

      I had electronics like a hobby in the secondary school and also the time I was in the university even I've studied mechanics. Great presentation !!

    • @dilipand
      @dilipand 4 роки тому

      electronic technicians nowdays repair FLAT TVs, monitors, cell phones, install and repair satellite installations, alarm systems, fire detection systems, CCTV installation, PLC programming and maintenance in industrial applications, and a variety of other applications ...
      Nowadays, even the electrical appliances of a hotel kitchen may have electronic control boards with fiber optic and internet connectivity.
      And in some countries it is not always "throw the old board away and put the new one"
      this is the easy way that even a 10 yo child can do.
      What if a new electronic board is too expensive ?

  • @tareksaglan
    @tareksaglan 10 років тому +159

    Regarding the puzzle at the end, the low resistance effect is an increased current at the OA output. the OA at approximately Vout= -0.5V should sink 50uA which is higher than the value in the datasheet/figure13 of 30uA max. so the virtual ground voltage fluctuates and so does the output at approx. -0.5V.

    • @IIIDarkWorlDIII
      @IIIDarkWorlDIII 5 років тому +6

      baby...

    • @jm5642
      @jm5642 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you.

    • @cireekratz2017
      @cireekratz2017 4 роки тому

      in the new datasheet, i think its figure 47, that explains this.

    • @youtubegoogle4163
      @youtubegoogle4163 3 роки тому +3

      @@cireekratz2017
      Above explanation said.
      at Vout = -0.5V
      I sink = 50uA (> 30uA)
      Can you please explain me,
      What special thing happens at -0.5 V,
      Which doesn't happens at other output voltages ?

    • @cireekratz2017
      @cireekratz2017 3 роки тому +23

      @@youtubegoogle4163 Hi, the thing is, that this IC has limited current sinking capabilities at low negative output voltages.
      In the -0.5V case the sinked current should be (-0.5V/10kOhm) 50 uA. But the IC is not capable to sink that much current at this V_out. Figure 47 in the datasheet shows that it only can handle ~40mA.
      Now there are 2 cases:
      - slightly higher V_out (like -0.25V): the sink current lowers to 25 uA and that is just in the limit that can be provided (when the supply V difference is at 30V, grey curve) After that the virtual GND can begin to deteriorate.
      - lower V_out (like -0.75V): the current sink capability of the IC rises rapidly (after the kink in the curve). It lands around 1.15mA which is sufficient by far.
      In the end Dave chose a really nice corner case, where there is only 1 output voltage, where this problem arises. If you lower the R values further, the problem should expand and should arise shortly after V_out = 0V and stretch to around -0.6V.
      Hope this helps.

  • @ashenjiang2532
    @ashenjiang2532 Рік тому +8

    Eight years later, this is still the best and most understandable intro to Op Amps ever.

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis 2 місяці тому +1

    Most excellent basic introduction to op-amps I know of. It tells you everything you need to know about fundamental operations of op-amps to get you on your way to understanding more complex circuits.

  • @IamDerick
    @IamDerick 3 роки тому +13

    Been a tech for 43 years and I have never seen it explained so concise. Thanks and I am turning the junior techs onto this video. Cheers!

  • @95berre
    @95berre 9 років тому +42

    5.300 students are very grateful you uploaded this video

    • @te0nani
      @te0nani 9 років тому

      +95berre count me in!

    • @daepicadam7358
      @daepicadam7358 7 років тому +3

      You can't have 5.3 students.

  • @TsarLuna
    @TsarLuna 3 роки тому +9

    7 years on and your videos are still helping new technicians. I really appreciate this, thank you.

  • @timoliver2211
    @timoliver2211 8 років тому +84

    Hi dave I've been watching your channel a lot for the last couple years now and it's fantastic! I'm currently doing my honors in electronics engineering and my University here in hamilton New Zealand has instructed my class to watch this video on the current section we are covering on op-amps. You have finally made it to university level teaching my friend!

    • @youtubegoogle4163
      @youtubegoogle4163 3 роки тому

      48:40
      Can anybody please tell me the reason of this ?

  • @billh1337
    @billh1337 2 роки тому +8

    I am in my senior year for EE and we had a whole 8 weeks in one of my circuit theory classes dedicated solely to op amps. We got to delve deep into these and do some really fun design problems and lab experiments. This video really is a great refresher and good start for anyone new to them.

    • @TheDaniel85
      @TheDaniel85 Рік тому

      I wish we had the time for that... I'm in my second year and we spent two days on op amps. This video helped me quite a bit.
      I guess we'll return to the op amps later on..

    • @torebektoregozhin4626
      @torebektoregozhin4626 Рік тому +1

      @@TheDaniel85 I am in my junior year, If anything interesting starts, it's going to be in 3rd, 4th year. First two years is just a dull foundation, during a third year pieces of puzzle will be coming together.

  • @tonypitsacota2513
    @tonypitsacota2513 Рік тому +1

    Your video is gold. I modeled both inv amp and non-inv amp in LTspice with MAX4352 op-amp. Input voltage: [0,0.5] volts. Vcc:+5v, Vee: GND. Worked perfect. Thanks for your work!

  • @RossPotts
    @RossPotts 10 років тому +10

    Interestingly I just recently recommended someone to look into using an opamp for their project...
    EEVblog never disappoints.

  • @funkyironman69
    @funkyironman69 9 років тому +250

    If anyone is interested the gain of the non-inverting config can be derived from the voltage divider equation:
    Vin = Vout*R1/(R1+Rf)
    Vin/Vout = R1/(R1+Rf)
    Vout/Vin = (R1+Rf)/R1
    Vout/Vin = 1+Rf/R1
    And the gain of the inverting config can be found from the currents:
    I(Rf) = Vout/Rf
    I(R1) = -Vin/R1
    -> Current through both resistors is equal so...
    -Vin/R1 = Vout/Rf
    Vout/Vin = -Rf/R1
    :)

    • @cjay2
      @cjay2 5 років тому +3

      Amazing how simple the above is when you can assume that the internal gain of the opamp is infinite. Everyone going through EE should be able to demonstrate the above in the time it takes to write it down. Well done.

    • @thimayapanda8634
      @thimayapanda8634 4 роки тому +3

      Here Vin1=Vin2 due to the virtual short between the input terminals, if anyone had a doubt

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for this! Not as bad as I thought coming into this! Matter-in-fact, really fun!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDD ♡

  • @mikelamay7875
    @mikelamay7875 4 роки тому +29

    The fact we can learn this and not have to go into debt... your a gift to engineering Dave!

    • @kevin42
      @kevin42 2 роки тому +1

      Forget the debt. Being water boarded everyday is not what i would call learning.

    • @spraynprey1044
      @spraynprey1044 Рік тому +1

      ​@@kevin42 agreed and they inject way too much to do with political issues at times to

  • @chineweliukegbu9762
    @chineweliukegbu9762 2 роки тому +2

    Some people really got the "art of sincere teaching". This is the best I've seen so far regarding Op amp basics. God bless you Sir.

  • @gskempe9
    @gskempe9 5 років тому +6

    When I learned how to use Op-Amps, the 741 was the state of the art at the time. Yes, had to learn them the hard way back in those days. What a great refresher course for this young man born 9-11-1946. Great job Dave and thank you. Respectfully, Steve

  • @RammuDK
    @RammuDK 8 років тому +11

    This is my new favorite UA-cam channel!!! I am a marine engineer by trade, but I started getting bored, so I signed up for an online electronic engineering programme at my local university, to put my spare time into good use.
    I have never gained much from sitting in a classroom listening to a lecturer bleating for two hours at a blackboard, so I was thrilled, when I got the opportunity to work at getting a degree, working by myself at home. These videos are an absolutely excellent supplement to all the videos available from my university.
    Thank you!!!

  • @OrbiterElectronics
    @OrbiterElectronics 10 років тому +143

    Thumbs-up for the vid on properly terminating op-amps please Dave ;)

    • @wojciechdera245
      @wojciechdera245 10 років тому

      i agree too!

    • @purza95
      @purza95 5 років тому +4

      e2e.ti.com/blogs_/archives/b/thesignal/archive/2012/11/27/the-unused-op-amp-what-to-do - found this today on TI's website

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom 3 роки тому +3

    I spent few years in school to learn this (hundreds of years ago) but no teacher was able to present it so clearly like you did - thank you bro

  • @rithanipriyanka2393
    @rithanipriyanka2393 4 роки тому +3

    Read this after 12:23 and listen to buffer amplifier again.
    The primary objective of buffer circuit is to boost the current in any circuit at any stage. Buffer circuits are mainly used where a signal has very low current input(high input impedance) which needs to be increased maintaining the same voltage levels. So, this buffer circuits draws current from power source and adds it to the signal.
    Buffer amp is also called as voltage follower or unity gain amplifier . Hope this makes sense now !

  • @smallmoneysalvia
    @smallmoneysalvia 6 років тому +11

    Dave, this is amazing. Thank you for these mini classes, honestly it’s worth more than any electronics class I ever paid for.
    Negative feedback op-amps just clicked into place for me about 10 minutes in. I had been struggling with this concept for days. Thank you so much.

  • @umbratherios5614
    @umbratherios5614 5 років тому +21

    FINALLY!!!! A video that ACTUALLY EXPLAINS HOW IT WORKS!!!!!
    Dave, this video was a godsend.

  • @darinmorgan3520
    @darinmorgan3520 5 років тому +3

    Never gave money to a UA-camr ever, until now. Started this hobby six months ago. Tried to make a little lab myself but made mistakes. Then I watched your video on how to start an electronics lab. Followed your advice and now everything is set up and working perfectly. makes it so much easier! My learning curve has advanced leaps and bounds. Cant thank you enough.

  • @BenjiQ575
    @BenjiQ575 6 років тому +12

    It's so great to see fellow Australians showing up on UA-cam. Especially for something like explaining electricity. Bringing fame and reputation to our country!

    • @ANTOINETTE-nk1tm
      @ANTOINETTE-nk1tm 3 місяці тому

      COMPARED TO THE USA, Y'ALL DID NUTTIN SEE---

  • @tekfreak6128
    @tekfreak6128 9 місяців тому +1

    One of the most sensible ways of explaining the basics of op amps. Great work Dave

  • @astrokid7664
    @astrokid7664 9 місяців тому

    as an electrical engineering student, this channel is priceless. thank you for this channel and to so many other folks who do the same...

  • @1Andypro
    @1Andypro 10 років тому +5

    Thanks for doing teaching vids, Dave! I took many electrical engineering courses in college and we did a lot with op-amps, but I'm embarrassed to admit I've completely forgotten everything about them since then. These practical introduction videos are perfect for people like me who want to reconnect to something we learned in the past. Thanks again!

  • @JohnKhalil
    @JohnKhalil 2 роки тому +3

    I have been watching this as a kid and now it feels so nostalgic after i have passed my electronics engineering school , it really so nostalgic

  • @CraigHesling
    @CraigHesling 10 років тому +11

    Truly one of the best reviews of OP Amps. This validates everything I have learned about OP Amps.
    -Thanks

  • @razorr1920
    @razorr1920 3 роки тому +1

    You have left a legacy on UA-cam for the coming generations. You are immortal. Salutes.

  • @boatstrips
    @boatstrips Рік тому

    This video got me a job as a tech earlier this year. I spent so much time reading different articles about it and struggled to wrap my head around it. In the interview they had a worksheet with ohms law voltage divers etc and then in the verbal portion he brought up op amps. I just started talking and after a bit he smiled and I knew I was hired. Thanks Dave!

  • @6345788
    @6345788 Рік тому +3

    This explanation is superb! It is THE best I've ever seen from any book or professor. Truly, a gold nugget.

  • @opalprestonshirley1700
    @opalprestonshirley1700 9 років тому +6

    Excellent discussion. Takes me back 35 years to my intro to op-amps. My professor explained what was to us an amazing and confusion subject just as you did and within a day or so we couldn't wait for the lab. I'm now hooked on your channel. atb Opal

  • @speedsterh
    @speedsterh 5 років тому +4

    If only I had the opportunity to watch this when I was learning about OpAmps some decades ago ! So much simpler to understand with you, Dave !

  • @barry7608
    @barry7608 5 років тому +1

    Even after 30 years away from electronics I got the gist of you lesson, thanks you explain it very well and in manner I just love. I worked in the dept of Navy as a trainee and we had two parts, one was a TAFE course the other was direct from Naval lecturers. The naval lecturers were like you extremely conversant and able to explain in a much more understandable manner.

  • @PalKrammer
    @PalKrammer Рік тому

    You are a brilliant teacher. Your ability to explain these concepts in an easily understood and straightforward way is a precious gift. I say this as someone who, many many decades ago, struggled as a student trying to understand so many instructors who did not have the ability to convey their knowledge to their students.

  • @frankbuss
    @frankbuss 10 років тому +15

    Great explanations. I used OpAmps before, but more copy-and-paste style, just using the standard circuits without thinking about it. Now it makes sense why it works, and with the two rules I might even create equations to analyze more complex circuits, like the differential amplifier, where you've lost me a bit.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  10 років тому +5

      Yeah, I did gloss over the differential amplifier a bit, sorry about that.

    • @HighestRank
      @HighestRank 6 років тому

      Gloss? Yeah I totally missed Diff Amp totally. You probably used initials DA and it just didn't register in my mind.

    • @claude77573
      @claude77573 3 місяці тому

      I'm not sure what the issue is. Analyze it like any other inverting amp. The voltage at the inverting input sets the voltage at the non-inverting input: 0.91091V. The voltage drop through the inverting R1 1K resistor is 1.1V - 0.91091V, or 0.1909V. The current through the inverting R1 and sunk by this inverting op amp through the feedback circuit is 0.19091V / 1K, or 0.1909 mA. The voltage drop across the feedback resistor R2 is 0.1909 mA x 10K, or 1.9V. The voltage at the op-amp's output is the voltage at the inverting input less the voltage drop of the feedback resistor, R2: 0.9191V - 1.9V, or about -1V. As a check. the voltage gain formula is -R2/R1, or -10K/1K = -10. The difference in voltage at the inverting and non-inverting inputs is 0.1V. So, the op-amp's output using the gain formula is .1V X -10, or -1V.

  • @TheElectr0nicus
    @TheElectr0nicus 10 років тому +18

    Excellent video Dave!
    Concerning the puzzle on the end. I think it's the reduced current sinking capabilities of the LM358 when Vout is small in respect to ground. If look up the "Output Characteristics Current Sinking" graph in the datasheet you can see that the LM358 can sink very little current at low output voltages. As you have a 1k R1 and 2Vpp input voltage you have 2mApp of current, which is still too much to sink for the LM358 at low output voltages. So the LM358 can't keep the virtual ground equal with the "real" ground trough it's FB network. Therefore you get those spikes and the sagging and rising of the virtual ground in between.

    • @gamingSlasher
      @gamingSlasher 10 років тому +1

      Nice work! I noticed that all datasheets doesnt show this. The Motorola version did not so that might be an extra "trap for young players"

    • @tubical71
      @tubical71 10 років тому +1

      That´s it, exatcly :)

    • @tareksaglan
      @tareksaglan 10 років тому +1

      You are right, just a small clarification. the OA at Vout= -0.5V should sink 50uA which is higher than the value in the datasheet/figure13 of 30uA max. so the virtual ground voltage fluctuates and so does the output at approx. -0.5V.

    • @foobargorch
      @foobargorch 9 років тому +2

      +TheElectr0nicus but why does it jump like that? And why is there such a weird knee in the sink around that voltage (i.e. the physical reason for the fact that it goes closer to linear at even lower voltages)

  • @philstuf
    @philstuf 6 років тому +3

    Love these. More, please. I've been using Op Amps and Comparators for decades and still learned a couple tricks watching this video!

  • @tml1x
    @tml1x 6 років тому +2

    Took years to comprehend this stuff. Especially when it came to more complex circuitry and control of DC motors from controlling speed, current, volts, positioning, etc. Great video and spot on! Thanks

  • @barnabywilde3101
    @barnabywilde3101 4 роки тому

    tonight i learned 10x more about op-amps, and with a deeper understanding, than
    i did in a whole semester in a suffocating classroom. Thank you for your time.

  • @stevesmyth4982
    @stevesmyth4982 3 роки тому +3

    Back in May of 1978 I started work at an aerospace company that made the engine controllers for a military jet aircraft. The engine controller was a low frequency (less than 10 KHz) precision analogue computer that had amplifier gains & offsets calibrated to +/- 2 mV with select on test 1% tolerance resistors. Some critical circuits in the controller used 0.1% tolerance resistors. Positive 10 V and negative 10 V references were used throughout, and as well as the usual feedback loop components there were two 10.6 V Zener diodes in each loop. All of the virtual earths were connected to a virtual earth monitor that used a high gain amplifier to indicate any opamp failures. After a few years the engine controller was redesigned around 12 MHz 16 bit microprocessors and was considered to be not as good as the analogue version because at full speed the aircraft would travel about 50 feet before the software loop was reiterated.
    Some of the circuitry in the analogue version was very unusual and complex and I learned a lot about circuit design with opamps. It was a great place to work because there were occasions when batches of high grade components were thrown into a skip, and the company didn't care where they went. To this day I have a huge stock of mostly obsolete but still useful components that I use for making projects and stuff that can't be purchased off the shelf.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 роки тому

      so was the processor just running at too low frequency? also what did the engine controller do/was used for?

  • @malgailany
    @malgailany 10 років тому +36

    Hi Dave,
    Please do a video on how to terminate OP-AMP, it's an important topic as well.
    Good job, thank you.

  • @pranayereddy
    @pranayereddy 10 років тому +23

    The concept of virtual ground was delivered precisely.
    Thank you Dave!!!!

  • @santopino2546
    @santopino2546 6 років тому

    I studied and played around with this stuff over 40 years ago, it's quite refreshing watching these videos.
    I went into digital for many years practically ignoring analog.
    Thank you Dave.

  • @BASEDinMaine
    @BASEDinMaine 2 роки тому

    We're moving into Op-Amps in my 2nd year circuits class, and I've already gone through 3 shorter "intro to op amps / op amp basics" videos with high view counts and all of them were rubbish in terms of being "basic introductions". This 50 minute video is already vastly superior in presenting the fundamentals clearly and simply in the first 5 minutes. Happy to have found it!

  • @ZegaracRobert
    @ZegaracRobert 10 років тому +12

    Great explanation, you just took the best OP-Amp explanation until now from:YT- John Santiago Op Amp Design Basics - Inverting Amplifier - Part 3
    (i was actually wondering when you will do that 8-).
    While you mentioned ohm's law you might add Kirchhoff circuit law in the part where you "wonder" about where current goes and that lack of minus in inv. OP gain formula was bugging me until you corrected it...
    For the end, you put smaller resistor which drives 10x larger current form output trough feedback resistor to "match/counter" input current (100uAmpsp rise into 1mAp) so output stage switches into B class (whole chip with 2xOPAmps has less then 1mA quiescent current and output stage probably uses about 70% of that) and you see clear crossover distortion on the output waveform (where OP-Amp loses control hence the spikes on the input, you can represent that as vehicle steering wheel dead play for mechanical types)
    Great video, just took best opamp explanation title,cant wait for #2,3,....

  • @sashamuller9743
    @sashamuller9743 4 роки тому +6

    i always catch myself smiling while watching this guy

  • @fatelvis3311
    @fatelvis3311 7 років тому +4

    You are really great at this. I'm in a 3rd semester EET student and I learned a thing or two about op-amps from you. I should be paying you tuition!

  • @SayWhatNow92
    @SayWhatNow92 3 роки тому

    this video (as old as it is) really helped my early on while studying my degree, then even now years later i watched it day before i went into the job interview of my dreams, and it may well have been the contributing factor that landed me the job. so a huuuuge thanks.

  • @angturil
    @angturil 4 роки тому

    This is probably the most comprehensive and effective explanation I've ever watched about opamps. You sir are a pedagogical genius!

  • @activemindse
    @activemindse 8 років тому +9

    Wow, huge thanks for a crystal clear explaination! I have watched several other videos where others tried to show how awesome opamps are and after those videos I became more confused. At last, thanks to your awesome video I understand what it is and how I can use them. Awesome Dave, it´s like christmas following your videos.

  • @maryamsheikh6919
    @maryamsheikh6919 5 років тому +5

    i'm literally crying, thank you so much. my physics midterm is tomorrow and i truly thought i was screwed. but now i think i can save my grade, subscribed x

    • @dmeemd7787
      @dmeemd7787 4 роки тому

      How did you do on your midterm?? This stuff is not easy so don't give up!

  • @technicult0
    @technicult0 8 років тому +111

    What the hell just happened? I felt like I had watched a 10 min video. By the time I looked at the time line, 49 minutes had already passed. Magic OOOOoooooo. XD

  • @jheesom
    @jheesom 4 роки тому +1

    If my college lecturer in the 1970s in England had been just half as good as explaining things as you, I could have saved myself 40 years of stress thinking that I was an idiot. Keep up the excellent work, you obviously love passing on your knowledge and are brilliant at doing it. I am now totaly gripped.

  •  3 роки тому

    Thanks to you, and your videos I am today a successful engineer working in semiconductor industry. I am just coming back, years after I watched this video for the first time. I was having problems passing the only one remaining subject to get my degree and was searching for a helpful video on opamps. Not only you helped me, but also inspired me with your positive personality! Keep up the good work!

  • @PhattyMo
    @PhattyMo 10 років тому +30

    Yes for an op-amp terminating video.

  • @edith_adri
    @edith_adri 9 років тому +181

    I love you. You should have been my EE professor for every class at my uni

    • @ibjavier
      @ibjavier 9 років тому

      +Edith Mejia wow. i would have thought that your school had good professors!

    • @mikecarroll757
      @mikecarroll757 9 років тому +30

      +Edith Mejia what would be the fun in that? Don't you enjoy not understanding something and then spending hours online looking for information...for free? I know I do! (that's a lie)

    • @josephbeasley3856
      @josephbeasley3856 7 років тому +3

      aww wook at the wittle fluffy headed female. it's thinks it knows how electronics works

    • @ilmaripohjola2633
      @ilmaripohjola2633 7 років тому +14

      You have to be kidding mate.

    • @loudcloud6889
      @loudcloud6889 7 років тому +37

      Joseph Beasley Mmmm deep male insecurity, pretty embarrassing comment there. I'm not sure you understand how insecure this makes you look.

  • @cotocs01
    @cotocs01 10 років тому +42

    Yeah!
    perfect explanation about virtual ground.
    Thanks Dave!

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  10 років тому +4

      Patrick Franco Bello Thanks, glad you liked it.

    • @nashbinrash5510
      @nashbinrash5510 4 роки тому

      @@EEVblog Thanks

  • @kaikyouto4670
    @kaikyouto4670 5 років тому

    You have succeeded where hours of instruction and study have failed: making me understand how opamps work. I am unable to express my gratitude.

  • @dkaloupis75
    @dkaloupis75 2 роки тому

    Whatever haven't tought for x amount of reasons eg lack of access to higher education, means of funds, have a chance to broaden my knowledge and horizons thanks to you and a few other persons like you. A huge thank you is certainly not enough.

  • @StuffBuilder
    @StuffBuilder 8 років тому +434

    This video made everyone think I'm a genius when we were taught this in class!

    • @jhonnyginting8985
      @jhonnyginting8985 5 років тому +1

      Simply 💯 percent on target

    • @TheRussell747
      @TheRussell747 5 років тому +13

      And here I am looking at it at 5am when I have a quiz over ideal and non ideal opamps at 9am

    • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
      @TheRealCaptainFreedom 5 років тому

      👍

    • @usoppbarbosa981
      @usoppbarbosa981 5 років тому +11

      It's amazing how bored teachers can make something not that complicated look like a mountain.. I never ever understood opamps at school, and after a fews minutes in now, i'm like... How the hell did they manage to overcomplicate that???

    • @nilamv6003
      @nilamv6003 5 років тому +5

      @@usoppbarbosa981 is it because they don't have practical design experience??...

  • @samarpitsahoo4959
    @samarpitsahoo4959 6 років тому +4

    Well, I secured more marks than my friends in our exam just by watching this video 2 hour prior to my exam. Thanks Dave.

  • @geniusi810
    @geniusi810 10 років тому +123

    I wish you could do one like this for transistors!

    • @thatcrazywolf
      @thatcrazywolf 6 років тому +3

      Transistors are even simpler

    • @nankinanko5790
      @nankinanko5790 Місяць тому

      ​@@thatcrazywolf
      You mean what type exactly? 😂😂
      MOSFET ?
      BJT ?
      IGBT ?
      Under BJT
      PNP or NPN?
      Under MOSFET
      Depletion or enhancement type?
      All I mean is really??? 😂

  • @chuckfaber7521
    @chuckfaber7521 6 років тому

    Someone in my class has been spreading around this video to everyone and they're all raving about how useful your video is.

  • @vahramhambardzumyan2239
    @vahramhambardzumyan2239 4 роки тому

    First theory then practical implementation with real equipments, and all in 50 minutes... thanks Dave for your time.

  • @messcommand7819
    @messcommand7819 8 років тому +7

    This was the Video that made me fall in love with electronics!
    What an awesome tutorial !!

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight 10 років тому +52

    good ol crossover-distortion. the LM358 has a class-B output stage and has to be biased properly or you get crossover distortion. instead of having diodes in the output stage, they tied the bases together. They were designed to be low power, so they did this. a proper load resistor between the output and negative supply will fix this problem. decreasing the feedback resistors increase the load by decreasing the overall impedance to the "virtual-ground", causing more and more crossover distortion.
    There is a tradeoff, by putting a resistor in the output stage to -ve, you also get a much higher idle current. Much more than of a standard class-ab op-amp. So that blows the "low-power" rating into the rubbish bin.
    Edited as my first couple attempts didnt sound, or come out right.

    • @AttilaAsztalos
      @AttilaAsztalos 10 років тому +7

      Yeah, found that explanation in about ten places on the net, none of them bothered to explain how the missing load resistor influences anything - they all went way, way above the 'dummie level' this video is addressing (and most certainly outside its scope). Kind of like the answer above, actually. Would you please elaborate a bit on that - I freely admit to being a proper dummy in any of this analog stuff...?

    • @THEtechknight
      @THEtechknight 10 років тому +23

      Attila Asztalos Im going to leave that one to Dave as he is going to explain it better than I ever would. From what I understood years ago, is there is a small current source in the IC that needs beefed up by the resistor to bias the output stage into conduction on both transistors instead of just one. its class-B for a reason, one is because its low power, 2 is because it can reach ground whereas true class-AB cannot, at least not without some help. Amplifier classes are explained on the web in various places, but class B means its biased into cutoff. Meaning at idle with no signal present, the transistor is switched off. Raising the input voltage approximately 0.7V into forward-bias, the transistors will begin to turn on. When the output signal reverses below 0.7v, the transistor is off. Then as it swings below 0, into -0.7v then it will switch on again. (lower transistor). That creates a dead-zone of approximately 1.4v that the amplifier isnt conducting. This creates crossover distortion. The external resistor increases the source current to the bias network, adding extra idle voltage/current into the output stage allowing the transistors to stay on all the time, known as class AB, or for some reason in the LM358's case, Class-A.
      Edit: Looked at the datasheet, the texas instruments datasheet on page 11 explains it all.

    • @tmdrake
      @tmdrake 6 років тому

      Nice.

    • @purza95
      @purza95 5 років тому +4

      ua-cam.com/video/VgodYtiD_F0/v-deo.html

  • @natezimmer4489
    @natezimmer4489 10 років тому +20

    Hey Dave, can your next video be on the stuff you crossed out? I wanted to cry there for a sec. There are tons and tons of resources about the basics of op amps, there a dime a dozen. However, there are very very few complete videos on op amp internals. Finding videos on the basics is utterly simple but finding well presented videos on more advance material such as op amp internals is painfully difficult.

    • @clonkex
      @clonkex 10 років тому +5

      Agreed! It (almost) always helps, after learning the basics, to learn how they physically work inside to really cement the concepts in your brain!

  • @michaferenc6112
    @michaferenc6112 3 роки тому

    This video contains more information than half of semester of electronics on my university and thanks to it I have maxed one of two tests required to complete the course in about 20 minutes

    • @michaferenc6112
      @michaferenc6112 3 роки тому

      @@lepidoptera9337 Nah, I study informatics and electronics by itself is just kind of filler subject and they put more pressure on other stuff

  • @barrychristiansen4579
    @barrychristiansen4579 6 років тому

    was'nt too sure at first about the teaching style but after a few moments. lights were going grower much brighter! you never really lost a monent. very nicely articulated tutorial of an Opp. Amp. specialy as a refresher. since it's been 20 years practiculy. very nice ,will be following up . good work , can tell you love it bravo!!!

  • @Skinnyrd
    @Skinnyrd 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you Dave! This video has saved me headaches on multiple occasions. Everything is so well explained. I keep coming back to it for reference.

  • @tubical71
    @tubical71 10 років тому +6

    And now we need a second part, where you show us the non-common circuits, as let say...Gyrator-stuff, Log-converters, average/peak rectifiers, and "interferences" when using OpAmps in RF circuits (like input pin reversion)....;)

  • @reeseyme9613
    @reeseyme9613 8 років тому +62

    i never even gain 10% of knowledge i got here on opamps from those electronic classes back then on the 741

    • @reeseyme9613
      @reeseyme9613 8 років тому +4

      excellent tutorial

    • @MrOperettalover
      @MrOperettalover 8 років тому +3

      Excellent teacher - one of a kind.

    • @MrBrymstond
      @MrBrymstond 5 років тому +1

      The teachers have to include all of the unnecessary theory involved as if there is no IC, but we can't repair the IC, only replace it and you're starting from scratch which is not needed unless you plan to make your own IC and half of these teachers speak in monotone and barely grasp what they're reading so when you ask certain questions they will look it up and attempt to explain, but there are the exceptional that really know and they have a way to explain because they have the full understanding.

    • @xntumrfo9ivrnwf
      @xntumrfo9ivrnwf 5 років тому +2

      Pun intended?

  • @fredriksjoblom5161
    @fredriksjoblom5161 6 років тому +1

    Dave, though i've never met you or even had a two-way communication with you i do see you as my friend and tutor. Maybe it's simply because you come across as a really nice guy in your vblog, and i've seen so much of your face and so much appreciate your educational skills. Maybe it's becuse with you as my major source of education i've had the best grades in every course i've taken over the last 18 months, spending close to no time at all studying, giving me time to earn some well needed cash for equipment, working as a private tutor for other students, and that was not even deliberate. I was approached by peers who wanted tutoring and insisted on paying me for it, reasoning that their parents were prepared to pay the tripple amount to an actual professor who would no likely be any better than any of our own teachers, working out of the same curriculum, and that they knew from class that they understood me way better than any teacher.
    Because every teacher we've ever had can take hours trying to explain these concepts to no avail, but using sometimes slightly modified (just enough to fit exactly the concept we're studying and the specific questions the sometimes slighly slow teacher wants answered at that moment) versions of what you've taught me i can explain concepts so that my peers understand them well enough to get at least a C in a matter of a few sentences. No matter what knowledge gaps my teachers have left behind i can fill them in, in a matter of minutes and almost never having to explain something twice to anyone, ever, using your pedagogic models! 9/10 times when i explain something the answer is something like "Ahaaa! Oh my god i feel so dumb, it's not even that complicated!"
    A lot of people don't appeciate the fact that the ability to understand something better than others, doesn't magically give you the ability to describe it in a way so that those that don't understand it can also do so! It's not just that i have complete confidence in the quality of the information you provide, it's your ability to explain thing that would have taken me hours or days to figure out, if at all, in a matter of seconds or minutes. In fact the service you provide me, absolutely for free, saves me so much time (generally in between 10-20 hours a week in school. Is this even real?!!!!! o____0 ) since i don't have to study anymore to get top grades and not be the teacher's pet but rather his assistant! So... The fact of the matter Dave, is that i basically owe you roughly 17% of my total spare time, weekends included! Those are 17% of the part of my life that i get to spend as my heart desires. And i simply just can't thank you for that in writing, because whatever words i chose would be an insult to your genius! But still, i do have to say something so a simpler thank you will have to suffice.
    Thank you professor Dave, thank you so very very much! The quality of the service you provide is in my experience unprecedented in any and all forums from the web to actual traditional education in a "real" school. I hope that you love doing what you're doing as much as i love watching you do it, and that you will keep doing this for a long, long time!
    Your devoted fan and pupil,
    Fredrik Sjöblom,
    Stockholm, Sweden.

  • @elecles0
    @elecles0 6 років тому

    thanks for clarifying the 'comparitor' funcionality, where rule 2 doesn't apply in the open-loop condition. most other resources seem to neglect to mention this, but it was very helpful to finally lay this doubt to rest. cheers

  • @herauthon
    @herauthon 5 років тому +3

    You just solved my question for a project.. there we go.. another step forward.

  • @abhijithanilkumar4959
    @abhijithanilkumar4959 4 роки тому +5

    The things that were written on the board at the starting is exactly what my university wants me to learn

  • @bBrain
    @bBrain 10 років тому +15

    The little bump in the wave form i believe is because there was a squiggly line in dave cad and it carried over...

    • @bBrain
      @bBrain 10 років тому +6

      You gotta zoom into the dave cad to see it.

  • @JOFRIF
    @JOFRIF 2 роки тому

    Dave is really passionate about electronics that's why he took all the explanation to a whole new level! Thank you!

  • @xotmatrix
    @xotmatrix 4 роки тому

    Great video. I've been reading about Op Amps all day and not fully getting it. This crystallized everything I've read into something I can understand. Thanks!

  • @aainaatulkhalid480
    @aainaatulkhalid480 10 років тому +8

    For the love of Tesla, I was so friggin' nervous when you forgot the 'negative' of inverting gain!

  • @scottmichaels1586
    @scottmichaels1586 10 років тому +22

    I spent 10 minutes waiting to see a correction for the inverting op amp, didn't want to comment too soon but finally my mind is at rest :)

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  10 років тому +45

      Would you believe me if I said it was a deliberate test?

    • @HighestRank
      @HighestRank 6 років тому

      Probably not, but hearYe hearYe, spoiler alert.

  • @manis404
    @manis404 10 років тому +5

    This is the best explanation I've seen on the virtual ground. Nice!
    P.S: Next time, please consider giving an intro to DSPs, would be awesome!

  • @bartekdudek766
    @bartekdudek766 23 дні тому

    Watched this 6 years ago as a teenage geek. Learned a lot. Now I rewatch as a 3rd year university student. Still useful. Gonna pass the exam today

  • @slarkeeshi220
    @slarkeeshi220 2 роки тому +1

    Best OpAMP video. Will come back to digest further.

  • @abhinavs03
    @abhinavs03 7 років тому +30

    This guy taught me what I couldn't understand in my class even after discussing with 3 professors😂😂

    • @satviksharma1146
      @satviksharma1146 5 років тому +1

      Same bro

    • @andio310
      @andio310 5 років тому

      I was just thinking the same thinking I wish my college professor explained it like this...or maybe I was just too hung over to understand :-)

    • @abhijithanilkumar4959
      @abhijithanilkumar4959 4 роки тому

      That's because he has designed so much own circuits
      Was a professional electronic designer
      Invented 32 channel logic analyser in the 80s
      Played with lot of op amps and some professors have never used a 741

    • @atexnik
      @atexnik 4 роки тому

      Your professors probably don't understand it either, so tell them to watch this video ;)

  • @BurezFolfaus
    @BurezFolfaus 10 років тому +5

    Happy 600th EEVBlog Dave!

  • @MathewLeising
    @MathewLeising 10 років тому +104

    How much is a license for DaveCAD?

    • @emmanueloluga9770
      @emmanueloluga9770 5 років тому +4

      @Chris KwakernaatKwakernaat straight up. Puts all other EDAs to shame, self-powering monster of a tool

    • @HazeAnderson
      @HazeAnderson 5 років тому +3

      arrrrr .... shiver me timbers ....

    • @paulevans4334
      @paulevans4334 4 роки тому +2

      There she blows Jimlad............aarrrrr

  • @NadimC137
    @NadimC137 3 роки тому +1

    i first watched this video in my undergrad first year, it has been five years now, but i still come to this video when i need a recap in this topic... yes, he is that good at explaining electronics stuffs!

  • @Skandalos
    @Skandalos 5 років тому

    After every explanation I had more questions than before. A dramatizing entertaining style doesnt replace good teaching.

    • @Theo0x89
      @Theo0x89 5 років тому

      If it went over your head, then you might lack an understanding of the basics. You can't blame the presenter for that.