The thing about Sorkin that I think you have to understand to be able to watch his movies and his shows is that watching them is kind of like watching Shakespeare. The dialogue is unrealistically verbose and dramatic, but that's sort of the point. It comes down to whether or not you like that style, but criticising it for being unrealistic is missing the forest for all the trees.
Newsroom is one of my favorite shows. What makes it great is that everyone aspires to be better. These guys are OK with ppl not trying to be their best selves. They live in the world that is instead of trying to make it better and the way that we all think it should be.
"One of the worst seasons of dramatic television I've ever seen in my entire life." Really, Ben? Hyperbole much?! There are easily a hundred shows on TV right now that are worse than the Newsroom.
Saddened to them mocking the show like this, having just caught up with the show I was excited to see what they had to say about it, but I wasn't expecting this.
Why does everyone have to try to use their biggest words to go on hate rants against the show. It is by far my favorite show on television. I love the love interests, the stories, and at least the idea of conviction. I feel a lot of people hate on it for being "unrealistic", but I don't look at it to be realistic, it's idealistic.
since ur so fond of saying propaganda can you name specifics, and when the show pointed out shitty behavior in the tea party, that is not the same as left wing propaganda so please be extra specific and I will have an open mind
I liked season one, but I also have the ability to completely ignore stupid relationships on shows that I otherwise like. When the love triangle takes center stage, I tune out and just listen for words and phrases that indicate they've moved back to something interesting.
Seriously, I love this show and I love that they are showing people with principles. Unfortunately this has been lost but like everything, if they show enough of it it will actually stick in people's minds and they may behave differently. Jeff Daniels is amazing in the show and the conflict he experiences is well presented. I don't know who these guys are that reviewed it but their comments are ridiculous.
Incidentally, I think Will referencing the American Taliban was unprecedented on American television. I cannot find this phrase referenced to anyone. This phrase is not loosely thrown around and being a Canadian, I found it shocking that the phrase was even used. This was daring television, daring writing and daring acting.
I've been involved in a lot of non-hierarchical decision making communities. Protest camps, squats, communes, non-profits, Occupys (London and Nottingham) and none of them failed in their decision making structure. To dismiss anarcho-collectivism (or what ever label you like to use) out of hand just because you don't think it works is infantile. It does work and I can prove it time and time again.
I have a feeling that they are trying to walk the line between doing things that will keep them on air, and doing what they really want. I am sure if they just "go for it", the show would be gone before we can blink.
Loved last season. May have been pompous and over the top, but the dialog and content truly entertained. Couldn't wait for its return, but I, too, found episode 1 lacking. Kept getting up, finding other things to address. Willing to give them time to regroup.
i love this series because of the news they portray and the way they portray them. the problem with the latest episode is that the focus was on the relationship which as oyu guys said in the beginning i don't care about either!
The Newsroom is one of those shows that is highly misunderstood in its purpose at times. It is not only there to entertain but also to show a vision of how things should improve. Sorkin is absolutely right to criticize American 24 hour news tv. Imo never before have the American people been so misinformed on so many crucial topics like drone strikes, Spying and the banking crises. Ofc. that is not solely the fault of the media but as the newsroom shows, it should be handled differently.
Me to, and the ironic thing is more americans will watch this show and learn more news than from the actual "news". I think this show is really important.
Wow how can you hate the newsroom it's amazing it is not unrealistic at all. You are all just being game if thrones bitches open up I love that show too but it unrealistic too. Don't even get me started with the walking dead
I really liked the show. The only criticism I would levee at the show is the stupid relationship stuff. I want them to spend more time in the newsroom or more time in events that actually effect the broadcast. I have the same criticism of the West Wing, another of Sorkin's shows, the relationship crap was pretty weak.
The Newsroom was a really good show, imo - don't know what these guys were watching, but ... and I've said this before ... critics seem to be really caught up in looking to criticize to justify their title.
"Brian Williams and Anderson Cooper would never say that because they don't have the principle of Will Macavoy." Or maybe Brian and Anderson wouldn't say that because its not true.
I agree. Except for me the absolute worst show I ever watched to the end was Weeds. Nothing can ever compare to the staggering zombie that show became by the end.
I am an admitted Sorkin fangirl. The Newsroom is typical Sorkin from the plot points to the character archetypes (one example -- female characters who are brilliant at work, but totally bumbling in their personal lives -- hello, Dana from SportsNight, CJ from The West Wing and now we have Mackenzie on The Newsroom). My best "review" of this show is, if you like typical (TV) Sorkin, you will like this. If you don't, you won't. End of story.
I think the show's commentary is something I often agree with, but it kind of fails as a drama. The premise makes it basically impossible for the show to do anything other than preach at its viewers 99% of the time, with the other 1% being filled with, I don't know, that love triangle between Alison Pill's character and... erm, the other two? Jeff Daniels is the only great thing about the show, to me. He's amazing.
Love The Newsroom. Watching these four self-important guys blather on for 23 minutes? Meh... Agree the mainstream media is none too happy being called out for their lack of journalistic integrity and the extent to which they've all sold out to the overwhelming influence of big corporate interests.
First of all 'It didn't DO anything' for many reason's, unfavorable media coverage, no major backing but mostly because the police forcefully took the camps down. Second it educated a lot of people through workshops and general assemblies and encouraged people to stand up for what's right You last point is half right, we need as many different types of people as possible to envelop as many views as we can so we can realise every conceivable opinion and make decisions based on the outcome
These guys get it, literally one of the worst shows I've ever watched, but I can't stop watching it. It's literally bad. That and the "real" journalism, where all of the stories and leads fall right into the character's laps. It's absolutely ridiculous and annoys me to no end. I'll keep watching and laughing at it.
It seems Cenk might have to go back and rewatch A Few Good Men, "you can't handle the truth" speech it's supposed to be about the duty of the strong to protect the weak, and tee up the revelation about how Nicholson's character betrayed that duty when he had a kid brutalized and accidentally killed him for being weak, and then left two of his subordinates facing a possible death penalty instead of taking responsibility for the orders he gave them.
In the 2010’s, there was a lot of boring, dark, and not interesting trash on TV. The only tv shows I enjoyed watching was avengers EMH and the newsroom.
I really liked season 1 personally. Maybe I just don't have a critic's eye but I thought it was well-written, humorous, and compelling. I can see the whole anti-strong-women thing a bit though.
I agree that the love triangle is overly complicated and really who cares. I hated episode 1, but episode 2 was great thanks to Jeff Daniels and Olivia Munn (Sloan Sabbith). I'm looking forward to see where this goes. As far as last season: there were a couple of episodes that I thought were some of the greatest TV I've ever seen, so I'm not sure where Ben is coming from here.
This review hurts deeply because of how in some ways you people had the same reaction that I had to first season. I liked a lot the show, for various reasons one of which was that maybe the news networks anchors would watch it and at least consider another way of doing the news. And I even thought that Soledad O'Brien, in my wildest dreams, took it at the letter and started to ask the tough questions. But seeing Cenk despair about nothing will ever change hurts.
I actually like all of the interpersonal relationships on the show. The whole point is drama. And if all they did was the news, then you may as well just go watch the news... If you want to watch a drama, then guess what. Relationships are a big part of drama.
I like Newsroom by itself but I love it bc it makes most of the press crazy. They don't like being compared to the ideal version of the Fourth Estate. They want accolades but they are making waves like this ideal. How could they like it.
"The Newsroom" has to put all that cheeze romantic stories otherwise it will be called "News" and nobody will watch it. At least people get to be inform about a few big headlines that happened.
Those 180 innocent Americans made the decision to buy and smoke toxic tobacco also this is 2013 dude, nobody gets an idea to start smoking because they saw it for 30 seconds on an-hour long tv show
I love the show. Yeah it's unrealistic on many levels but the characters are great. I never watch dramas, but I love this show and the politics. Hindsight is 20/20 but I love that they cover actual news. Great show fuck the haters.
Sheesh. Talk about “removing sanctimony”? Wtf? Hate-watching? That’s a thing? Some people just suck. I have my own personalized criticisms for a zillion subjects, too, but the concept of “hate watching” is so cynical and pathetic. No wonder everyone hates everything about everything, we’re all just a bucket of jaded toolbags. It’s actually shameful, these cats are more narcissistic than the fictional characters they’re criticizing. I’m glad I’ve never seen this before but ecstatic that I have seen it once so I can actively avoid it going forward.
Is the reason so I can have my weekly WTF TV talk again? I miss GOT and Mad Men. Can't wait for Breaking Bad to come back. Shame True Blood is too low brow for these guys. Same with Dexter, although it is pretty good this season.
oh god I hate Alonso Duralde. His opinions drive me nuts. Plus, he always finds a nitpick to utterly shoot something down. A nitpick for which no one really cares about.
Hey guys please do episodic reviews of Ray Donovan on Showtime. The main characters are complex and nuanced. Just very promising. And not to mention, it's not Newsroom which is an insufferable one-dimensional show
I don't know why people on the left and I don't mean that in any kind of catty way. I've just noticed it between this and the Chapo clubhouse podcast hating on this show so much, like it's a TV show? Who cares? I thought it was great. The problems that people seem to have with it seem to be like non-issues and very nitpicky
I'm always amused when people like this criticize something they could not do in their wildest dreams . All of these guys together could not do what Aron Sorkin does. That is write great TV shows and movies.
Let's have a real discussion on why non-hierarchical governance doesn't work instead of just dismissing it out of hand. I'm sick of these hypothetical argument's, let's look at Occupy... No leader rose to the top, there was camps in hundreds of cities all over the world, in all accounts in worked!! Stop dismissing it because you disagree with it (that is the definition of bias!)
Well it is understandable that cenk likes it, is like when my familiy watched "six feet under". We are mortitions, if it is about what you do,... you kinda have to watch/hate it. And then you can point out aaaaall the mistakes and still keep watching. ;)
The show doesn't seem to have improved at all. When they focus on Daniels, Mortimer and the news it works. Dev Patel is solid. Olivia Munn is still terrible. Alison Pill makes it almost unwatchable.
Its funny, The West Wing is my all time favourite show and I love Sorkin's writing in that, but I cannot stand the Newsroom. I went in watching it ready to love it, but something about it just doesn't work for me. The characters are unlikable, over the top and preachy in a way I never felt in TWW.
Late to the discussion. I watched The Newsroom first and loved it. Then I went to watch The West Wing and loved that too. Part of it is because of the snappy dialogue, but I think the main attraction was what the commentators seem to not like: which are the principles? I'm no saint, but I think it's good that there are characters on television that strive for something ethically, while also being portrayed as inherently imperfect. But I guess I could see how if I disagreed with the political viewpoints expressed by the characters, I would find it preachy?
Yeah well sometimes it is indeed a bit... over the top as they said. Just a hint unrealistic, but again I think that has to do with trying to keep the show on air. They can't just say "america today sucks" and believe they will be continued.
The thing about Sorkin that I think you have to understand to be able to watch his movies and his shows is that watching them is kind of like watching Shakespeare. The dialogue is unrealistically verbose and dramatic, but that's sort of the point. It comes down to whether or not you like that style, but criticising it for being unrealistic is missing the forest for all the trees.
No it literally just sucks
I honestly love The Newsroom. I even loved it back when it was Sports Night.
Newsroom is one of my favorite shows. What makes it great is that everyone aspires to be better. These guys are OK with ppl not trying to be their best selves. They live in the world that is instead of trying to make it better and the way that we all think it should be.
The Newsroom is fucking awesome.
"One of the worst seasons of dramatic television I've ever seen in my entire life."
Really, Ben? Hyperbole much?! There are easily a hundred shows on TV right now that are worse than the Newsroom.
Saddened to them mocking the show like this, having just caught up with the show I was excited to see what they had to say about it, but I wasn't expecting this.
Why does everyone have to try to use their biggest words to go on hate rants against the show. It is by far my favorite show on television. I love the love interests, the stories, and at least the idea of conviction. I feel a lot of people hate on it for being "unrealistic", but I don't look at it to be realistic, it's idealistic.
I LOVED the Newsroom.
I don't know what these guys are banging on about. They just nitpick.
I waaaatcccheed The Neeewsrooooom full mooovie here twitter.com/c994211efa9edeb3b/status/824453594590044160
+Rory Lennon- I loved it too - Also, I loved West Wing. And, I found nothing wrong with how Sorkin handled the love interests.
since ur so fond of saying propaganda can you name specifics, and when the show pointed out shitty behavior in the tea party, that is not the same as left wing propaganda so please be extra specific and I will have an open mind
I love this show, I don't understand why anyone would hate it, unless they go into it looking for things to hate.
This was exact response I expected from these four guys, which only solidifies my love for The Newsroom.
I don’t know, was it overly self-important: yes. But God I love it so much
I liked season one, but I also have the ability to completely ignore stupid relationships on shows that I otherwise like. When the love triangle takes center stage, I tune out and just listen for words and phrases that indicate they've moved back to something interesting.
Its not that its too low brow (I watched the first three seasons) its just that we don't have a group that currently watches it.
I honestly don't get the criticism - regardless, I love the show.
jesus christ how can they think The Newsroom is bad?
I think it's because they're reporters so they feel like they're being lectured to.
Seriously, I love this show and I love that they are showing people with principles. Unfortunately this has been lost but like everything, if they show enough of it it will actually stick in people's minds and they may behave differently. Jeff Daniels is amazing in the show and the conflict he experiences is well presented. I don't know who these guys are that reviewed it but their comments are ridiculous.
I really really LOVE this show.
Incidentally, I think Will referencing the American Taliban was unprecedented on American television. I cannot find this phrase referenced to anyone. This phrase is not loosely thrown around and being a Canadian, I found it shocking that the phrase was even used. This was daring television, daring writing and daring acting.
The fact that so many people are discussing this is a testament to its quality.
I've been involved in a lot of non-hierarchical decision making communities. Protest camps, squats, communes, non-profits, Occupys (London and Nottingham) and none of them failed in their decision making structure. To dismiss anarcho-collectivism (or what ever label you like to use) out of hand just because you don't think it works is infantile. It does work and I can prove it time and time again.
I have a feeling that they are trying to walk the line between doing things that will keep them on air, and doing what they really want. I am sure if they just "go for it", the show would be gone before we can blink.
Loved last season. May have been pompous and over the top, but the dialog and content truly entertained. Couldn't wait for its return, but I, too, found episode 1 lacking. Kept getting up, finding other things to address. Willing to give them time to regroup.
LOVE LOVE LOVE THE NEWSROOM
i love this series because of the news they portray and the way they portray them. the problem with the latest episode is that the focus was on the relationship which as oyu guys said in the beginning i don't care about either!
The Newsroom is one of those shows that is highly misunderstood in its purpose at times. It is not only there to entertain but also to show a vision of how things should improve. Sorkin is absolutely right to criticize American 24 hour news tv. Imo never before have the American people been so misinformed on so many crucial topics like drone strikes, Spying and the banking crises. Ofc. that is not solely the fault of the media but as the newsroom shows, it should be handled differently.
The Newsroom is brilliant.
Me to, and the ironic thing is more americans will watch this show and learn more news than from the actual "news". I think this show is really important.
Wow how can you hate the newsroom it's amazing it is not unrealistic at all. You are all just being game if thrones bitches open up I love that show too but it unrealistic too. Don't even get me started with the walking dead
ok u've said this multiple times what exactly is the left wing propaganda ur talking about can u be specific?
All the parts of the show that talked about the news and fighting the corporate overlords were great. The parts with Romance are terrible.
I really liked the show. The only criticism I would levee at the show is the stupid relationship stuff. I want them to spend more time in the newsroom or more time in events that actually effect the broadcast. I have the same criticism of the West Wing, another of Sorkin's shows, the relationship crap was pretty weak.
The Newsroom was a really good show, imo - don't know what these guys were watching, but ... and I've said this before ... critics seem to be really caught up in looking to criticize to justify their title.
"Brian Williams and Anderson Cooper would never say that because they don't have the principle of Will Macavoy." Or maybe Brian and Anderson wouldn't say that because its not true.
One of my most beloved series of all time.
Highly underrated, but also highly smart and entertaining.
I really do not understand the hate here. I loved the first season. Where is the reviews of season 1.
Ok I'm a fan of both but Newsroom is way more entertaining than Mad Men
I agree. Except for me the absolute worst show I ever watched to the end was Weeds. Nothing can ever compare to the staggering zombie that show became by the end.
I am an admitted Sorkin fangirl. The Newsroom is typical Sorkin from the plot points to the character archetypes (one example -- female characters who are brilliant at work, but totally bumbling in their personal lives -- hello, Dana from SportsNight, CJ from The West Wing and now we have Mackenzie on The Newsroom). My best "review" of this show is, if you like typical (TV) Sorkin, you will like this. If you don't, you won't. End of story.
Can anyone tell me if this video contains any spoilers for the show?
I think the show's commentary is something I often agree with, but it kind of fails as a drama. The premise makes it basically impossible for the show to do anything other than preach at its viewers 99% of the time, with the other 1% being filled with, I don't know, that love triangle between Alison Pill's character and... erm, the other two?
Jeff Daniels is the only great thing about the show, to me. He's amazing.
Been meaning to watch this show. I think it's so necessary for our times from what I've heard about it.
Flipped it on one night, thought it was horrible, flipped it off (err the channel that is) and moved on.
The newsroom isnt a drama, an intelligent conversation is begun with an intelligent premise.
I'm interested in seeing how both Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin is handled.
On the Occupy note: even had the Occupy folks had this advice, they would not have listened.
Love The Newsroom. Watching these four self-important guys blather on for 23 minutes? Meh... Agree the mainstream media is none too happy being called out for their lack of journalistic integrity and the extent to which they've all sold out to the overwhelming influence of big corporate interests.
First of all 'It didn't DO anything' for many reason's, unfavorable media coverage, no major backing but mostly because the police forcefully took the camps down. Second it educated a lot of people through workshops and general assemblies and encouraged people to stand up for what's right
You last point is half right, we need as many different types of people as possible to envelop as many views as we can so we can realise every conceivable opinion and make decisions based on the outcome
These guys get it, literally one of the worst shows I've ever watched, but I can't stop watching it. It's literally bad. That and the "real" journalism, where all of the stories and leads fall right into the character's laps. It's absolutely ridiculous and annoys me to no end. I'll keep watching and laughing at it.
what kind of shows do you like?
It seems Cenk might have to go back and rewatch A Few Good Men, "you can't handle the truth" speech it's supposed to be about the duty of the strong to protect the weak, and tee up the revelation about how Nicholson's character betrayed that duty when he had a kid brutalized and accidentally killed him for being weak, and then left two of his subordinates facing a possible death penalty instead of taking responsibility for the orders he gave them.
In the 2010’s, there was a lot of boring, dark, and not interesting trash on TV. The only tv shows I enjoyed watching was avengers EMH and the newsroom.
I agree, the Newsroom is pretty terrible, but I can't stop watching it.
The dog days of summer? You guys are forgetting that Breaking Bad is coming back in a month's time.
I really liked season 1 personally. Maybe I just don't have a critic's eye but I thought it was well-written, humorous, and compelling. I can see the whole anti-strong-women thing a bit though.
While flawed, I love this show.
I agree that the love triangle is overly complicated and really who cares. I hated episode 1, but episode 2 was great thanks to Jeff Daniels and Olivia Munn (Sloan Sabbith). I'm looking forward to see where this goes.
As far as last season: there were a couple of episodes that I thought were some of the greatest TV I've ever seen, so I'm not sure where Ben is coming from here.
Honestly, I've been looking for their reviews of Season 1 Newsroom episodes. Can't find them. Has anyone else seen them since current went down?
The Newsroom was brilliant! This conversation is boring.
Newsroom is a GREAT show.
This review hurts deeply because of how in some ways you people had the same reaction that I had to first season. I liked a lot the show, for various reasons one of which was that maybe the news networks anchors would watch it and at least consider another way of doing the news. And I even thought that Soledad O'Brien, in my wildest dreams, took it at the letter and started to ask the tough questions. But seeing Cenk despair about nothing will ever change hurts.
I like "The Newsroom" much more than these guys. I like it much more than most people, actually.
I actually like all of the interpersonal relationships on the show. The whole point is drama.
And if all they did was the news, then you may as well just go watch the news... If you want to watch a drama, then guess what. Relationships are a big part of drama.
I love WhatTheFlick tv reviews. I wish they would make more like "Ray Donovan", "Breaking Bad".
I like Newsroom by itself but I love it bc it makes most of the press crazy. They don't like being compared to the ideal version of the Fourth Estate. They want accolades but they are making waves like this ideal. How could they like it.
Cannot believe I'm actually enjoying these fucking reviews.
"The Newsroom" has to put all that cheeze romantic stories otherwise it will be called "News" and nobody will watch it. At least people get to be inform about a few big headlines that happened.
Those 180 innocent Americans made the decision to buy and smoke toxic tobacco also this is 2013 dude, nobody gets an idea to start smoking because they saw it for 30 seconds on an-hour long tv show
I totally agree. Ever since Alan Ball left... it's just been weird.
John on What The Flick? My worlds are colliding.
Network TV and cable news are already irrelevant.
I love the show. Yeah it's unrealistic on many levels but the characters are great. I never watch dramas, but I love this show and the politics. Hindsight is 20/20 but I love that they cover actual news. Great show fuck the haters.
The reasons Cenk likes this show are the same reasons I hate it
On the deposition: Several West Wing episodes did that as well, namely the episode when Leo testifies before Congress on Bartlet's MS
Sheesh. Talk about “removing sanctimony”? Wtf? Hate-watching? That’s a thing? Some people just suck. I have my own personalized criticisms for a zillion subjects, too, but the concept of “hate watching” is so cynical and pathetic. No wonder everyone hates everything about everything, we’re all just a bucket of jaded toolbags. It’s actually shameful, these cats are more narcissistic than the fictional characters they’re criticizing. I’m glad I’ve never seen this before but ecstatic that I have seen it once so I can actively avoid it going forward.
I don't watch shows if I hate them..
Is the reason so I can have my weekly WTF TV talk again? I miss GOT and Mad Men. Can't wait for Breaking Bad to come back. Shame True Blood is too low brow for these guys. Same with Dexter, although it is pretty good this season.
anyone think they should do a Fox version of this show? That'd be some crazy shit
Anodyne? I think me means analogue.
Nah. It's a unique genre and I'll keep watching.
Someone that watched season 1 can you explain why these guys hated it so much? I saw only the pilot and thought it was great.
oh god I hate Alonso Duralde. His opinions drive me nuts. Plus, he always finds a nitpick to utterly shoot something down. A nitpick for which no one really cares about.
good actors spewing dialogue at 100 miles an hour. that's the newsroom
If I click the "Show less" button, will these guys go away? Talk about sanctimonious.
Any chance you guys review Dexter?
Hey guys please do episodic reviews of Ray Donovan on Showtime. The main characters are complex and nuanced. Just very promising. And not to mention, it's not Newsroom which is an insufferable one-dimensional show
I don't know why people on the left and I don't mean that in any kind of catty way. I've just noticed it between this and the Chapo clubhouse podcast hating on this show so much, like it's a TV show? Who cares? I thought it was great. The problems that people seem to have with it seem to be like non-issues and very nitpicky
first time I see Alonso and Cenk in the same room lol
I'm always amused when people like this criticize something they could not do in their wildest dreams . All of these guys together could not do what Aron Sorkin does. That is write great TV shows and movies.
Let's have a real discussion on why non-hierarchical governance doesn't work instead of just dismissing it out of hand. I'm sick of these hypothetical argument's, let's look at Occupy... No leader rose to the top, there was camps in hundreds of cities all over the world, in all accounts in worked!! Stop dismissing it because you disagree with it (that is the definition of bias!)
Well it is understandable that cenk likes it, is like when my familiy watched "six feet under". We are mortitions, if it is about what you do,... you kinda have to watch/hate it. And then you can point out aaaaall the mistakes and still keep watching. ;)
I will only watch it if you guys do a review every week
Me, too. I wish they'd review Dexter!
geez, all that testosterone in the studio! And Alonso throwing around words like "dudgeon" and "anodyne." If I were a gay man, I'd be dizzy with lust.
The show doesn't seem to have improved at all. When they focus on Daniels, Mortimer and the news it works. Dev Patel is solid. Olivia Munn is still terrible. Alison Pill makes it almost unwatchable.
Cenk can't stop thinking about Zimmerman
Its funny, The West Wing is my all time favourite show and I love Sorkin's writing in that, but I cannot stand the Newsroom. I went in watching it ready to love it, but something about it just doesn't work for me. The characters are unlikable, over the top and preachy in a way I never felt in TWW.
Late to the discussion. I watched The Newsroom first and loved it. Then I went to watch The West Wing and loved that too. Part of it is because of the snappy dialogue, but I think the main attraction was what the commentators seem to not like: which are the principles? I'm no saint, but I think it's good that there are characters on television that strive for something ethically, while also being portrayed as inherently imperfect.
But I guess I could see how if I disagreed with the political viewpoints expressed by the characters, I would find it preachy?
HBO cannot miss it stresses me out lol
Wanna hear a good joke? THE MAINSTREAM NEWS!
Almost half a hour to say you don't like it .....seems most of us disagree
Yeah well sometimes it is indeed a bit... over the top as they said. Just a hint unrealistic, but again I think that has to do with trying to keep the show on air. They can't just say "america today sucks" and believe they will be continued.
It's okay to just say you don't get it.
I hate the New Opening Theme, i miss the old one.