Hi thanks for that, I really should do more videos but, well 2020 has ruined everything, and now the vans failed the mot needing some welding I can't do and I'm all a little bit peed off lol
Good informative video. Thanks for sharing your experience with this inverter. I'm sorry it didn't work out too well :(. I can see from the video that it is not a Pure Sine Wave Inverter (as once questioned in the video). To the right of where it says "Surge Power 6000W" on the top of the inverter, there is is a diagram of the modified sine wave and the text "modified sine wave". This is visible at 3:22 and 6:30. On the right hand side of the remote control screen there is modified sine wave diagram underneath where it says "OUTPUT". This is visible at 3:42
Yeah I'm fortunate in having things to power that just don't care, the capacitor start table saw can be a bit choosy some days while the washing machine with a capacitor motor runs fine, all my other gear is switchmode powersupply driven so square or even DC would do. They replaced this, and refunded on the second and said to bin it....no no no lol, you repair..... So I stripped it and found the problem, the output MOSFETs were correct part number, 30n50, but from manufacturer to manufacturer MOSFET wattage isn't the same! Guess they bought in from a different supplier and this is the result... I replaced the output stages with ones rated higher, works fine now.
Never going to get any place that way. I use a Steam Pump. Micro waves will work fine on Modified. Noisy and slightly reduced power but work. Works fine for quick cooks and heating stuff. Best not long term cooking. Heats up the Transformer .
How do you expect it to work if you let the magic smoke out of it? Lots of folks having issues with these especially running electronic gear. No way does this look like a "pure sine wave" output. Would be nice to see the wave form on a scope. Cheers.
Yeah this one had a duff fan, they replaced the whole thing. The replacement is in another video, that one worked fine for a day, then failed the next morning. It's not pure sine they lied.... Anyhow they refunded the 2nd one and said I should dispose of it. So I threw it on my bench and rebuilt it. Still working since my rebuild.
Few weeks, so I ended up adding an internal charger to it but the same could be done with a 12v to 5v phone charger and a micro usb cable. The inverter is still working the design is good but they must have moved to some cheaper parts supplier or they themselves got supplied B grade parts and didn't know, I'd happily buy another, on fact I just might buy there new sine wave version as an upgrade
@@WereReallyRelayCampingthanks for the reply I will be l@@king forward to a review on it..
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@@WereReallyRelayCamping The design is sometimes amazing and the engineer did his job but there are not grade B parts in there. Sometimes they use the grade F ones! :)) The common issue with cheap electronics is that they get to put in parts that were taken out the factory from the back door. The parts that were deemed as rejects and not even having the identifier etched on them. Instead of them getting milled back for raw recycling, some folks get them by the bucket, etch or print a similar p/n and end up in consumer devices. My rule with any chinese device is, when it arrives, I carefully and thoroughly void their warranty and put in my own :D I mean these need quite a bit of rework and QC (which they do not actually get in their factories.) Anyway, I just budged in to say there are no grade B parts. Just F, and yes, it's F for fucked up. Anything that is remotely expensive, from power semiconductors to low tolerance passives that are needed in power electronics. Even copper wiring is replaced with copper plated or red varnished aluminium or iron.
Bummer the Genie escaped ? Yea, a fan should have come on first raise of Temp I would think. Dhooooooooooooooooooo ! I was liking that one too. Most struggle putting out half of what the label says. Chines rating system . If they say 20A that means it will only Smoke at 10A and won't burst into flames until 20A.
Yeah usually on inverters and motor controllers Chinese eBay seller amps or watts are like one third of real world. Return started, awaiting sellers reply..
It's a "floating" output it's not for use in a house is for in a camper van or a boat. It has 2 wire AC output with no ground, around 90% of inverters built this way. If you are using it in a boat/van then you can connect a lug to the body of the van/boat and connect that to ground lug of the output sockets. Neither of the 2 AC wires can be connected to the boat/van chassis and the instructions say this can short the inverter.
@@WereReallyRelayCamping Hi.. thanks for the video and for this explanation. Could you tell me what you mean buy connecting the body to the ground lug of the output sockets? Would we be running a separate wire from the body of the boat/van through the case of the inverter somehow and into the back of what would normally be the ground terminal in the output sockets? I did open mine and notice the ground terminals aren't connected to anything at all. It looks like these are 2 hot wires at 60 volts each instead of a hot and a neutral? Thanks
errr the first one was sent back for replacement, they sent another, then when that went pop they issued a full refund and said bin it. i dont bin anything, I rebuilt it with better quality parts, now 3kw doesnt scare it...scares the batteries though lol
@@brettpurchase-rathbone7948 well I don't worry too much as eBay's not too bad at honoring the gtee if not as described, then you can always take it up with PayPal, and you should have your PayPal linked to a credit card not a bank card or bank account as a credit card company can always just take the money right back. Upsets PayPal that does.....
@@WereReallyRelayCamping thanks for advice I always have confidence in eBay had issues in past and they have always sorted... The main selling point with this inverters for me is the remote so I can turn off when not in use as the inverter itself will be located in a hard to at place ... Hopefully all is going well with yours ? I am hoping to run a small induction hob off mine ...
@@brettpurchase-rathbone7948 our cheap induction hob won't work right on any of our inverters, best to ask seller if it will be compatible and that you can return if not etc
I had a smaller cheaper inverter that I never heard the fan come on, got ready to bypass my own fan or rig a temperature sensor. but came on when it got warm/higher loads. Hope you had better luck with the replacement!
Been a year since you uploaded this. Hopefully someone has pointed out to you that this is a 1500w inverter. Not a 3000w. The surge is 3000w but that can only be used for a matter of seconds. Less than 5 seconds. So as soon as you exceeded 1500w it was sure to fail. Perhaps of you had read the specs first. Or asked someone who was qualified. If the seller seen this video there is no way he would have given you an exchange or refund. If you want to draw 2000+ watts l would advise you to have someone who is qualified advise you. Or tell the seller how many watts you need to draw & they will advise a suitable inverter. But 2000+ watts is going to cost £200+
this was the 3000w '6000w' model, they replaced it with one with a working fan, it survived all my testing but failed going to full 2.2kw at something like 1-2c on a cold morning some days later, they said bin it, so i took it apart and found the problem, wrong mosfets fitted (on the output side), didnt match the part numbers printed on the pcb. the correct ones were fitted (actually uprated slightly) and its still going and doing 2.2kw to this day, about 3 weeks ago i noticed the output voltage had dropped, i think vibration may have jiggled the pot that sets it, but i cant be bothered to uninstall it, get it on the bench and fix it, 215v will have to do for now.... maybe when you go all sarcastic and say to read the specs, you should watch the video, it says "3000w / Surge Power 6000W" on the top of the inverter....
Loved the proper Yorkshire "Why does the fecking water come inside the van?" You got a new sub just for that from another Yorkshireman.
Hi thanks for that, I really should do more videos but, well 2020 has ruined everything, and now the vans failed the mot needing some welding I can't do and I'm all a little bit peed off lol
Good informative video. Thanks for sharing your experience with this inverter. I'm sorry it didn't work out too well :(.
I can see from the video that it is not a Pure Sine Wave Inverter (as once questioned in the video).
To the right of where it says "Surge Power 6000W" on the top of the inverter, there is is a diagram of the modified sine wave and the text "modified sine wave". This is visible at 3:22 and 6:30.
On the right hand side of the remote control screen there is modified sine wave diagram underneath where it says "OUTPUT". This is visible at 3:42
Yeah I'm fortunate in having things to power that just don't care, the capacitor start table saw can be a bit choosy some days while the washing machine with a capacitor motor runs fine, all my other gear is switchmode powersupply driven so square or even DC would do. They replaced this, and refunded on the second and said to bin it....no no no lol, you repair..... So I stripped it and found the problem, the output MOSFETs were correct part number, 30n50, but from manufacturer to manufacturer MOSFET wattage isn't the same! Guess they bought in from a different supplier and this is the result... I replaced the output stages with ones rated higher, works fine now.
Absolutley love the intro
Thanks for the video.
Never going to get any place that way. I use a Steam Pump. Micro waves will work fine on Modified. Noisy and slightly reduced power but work. Works fine for quick cooks and heating stuff. Best not long term cooking. Heats up the Transformer .
How do you expect it to work if you let the magic smoke out of it? Lots of folks having issues with these especially running electronic gear. No way does this look like a "pure sine wave" output. Would be nice to see the wave form on a scope. Cheers.
Yeah this one had a duff fan, they replaced the whole thing. The replacement is in another video, that one worked fine for a day, then failed the next morning. It's not pure sine they lied.... Anyhow they refunded the 2nd one and said I should dispose of it. So I threw it on my bench and rebuilt it. Still working since my rebuild.
I dont think you were supposed to let the volts drop below 12v.
Brilliant video very informative...how long does the battery last in the wireless monitor..thanks justin
Few weeks, so I ended up adding an internal charger to it but the same could be done with a 12v to 5v phone charger and a micro usb cable. The inverter is still working the design is good but they must have moved to some cheaper parts supplier or they themselves got supplied B grade parts and didn't know, I'd happily buy another, on fact I just might buy there new sine wave version as an upgrade
@@WereReallyRelayCampingthanks for the reply I will be l@@king forward to a review on it..
@@WereReallyRelayCamping
The design is sometimes amazing and the engineer did his job but there are not grade B parts in there. Sometimes they use the grade F ones! :))
The common issue with cheap electronics is that they get to put in parts that were taken out the factory from the back door. The parts that were deemed as rejects and not even having the identifier etched on them. Instead of them getting milled back for raw recycling, some folks get them by the bucket, etch or print a similar p/n and end up in consumer devices.
My rule with any chinese device is, when it arrives, I carefully and thoroughly void their warranty and put in my own :D
I mean these need quite a bit of rework and QC (which they do not actually get in their factories.)
Anyway, I just budged in to say there are no grade B parts. Just F, and yes, it's F for fucked up.
Anything that is remotely expensive, from power semiconductors to low tolerance passives that are needed in power electronics.
Even copper wiring is replaced with copper plated or red varnished aluminium or iron.
@ so true.
Bummer the Genie escaped ? Yea, a fan should have come on first raise of Temp I would think. Dhooooooooooooooooooo ! I was liking that one too. Most struggle putting out half of what the label says. Chines rating system . If they say 20A that means it will only Smoke at 10A and won't burst into flames until 20A.
Yeah usually on inverters and motor controllers Chinese eBay seller amps or watts are like one third of real world.
Return started, awaiting sellers reply..
Good video but pure sine wave is the best instead of pulsating power , constant power dosent damage sensitive items.
How do ground this inverter? Don't see any ground lug?
It's a "floating" output it's not for use in a house is for in a camper van or a boat. It has 2 wire AC output with no ground, around 90% of inverters built this way. If you are using it in a boat/van then you can connect a lug to the body of the van/boat and connect that to ground lug of the output sockets. Neither of the 2 AC wires can be connected to the boat/van chassis and the instructions say this can short the inverter.
@@WereReallyRelayCamping Hi.. thanks for the video and for this explanation. Could you tell me what you mean buy connecting the body to the ground lug of the output sockets? Would we be running a separate wire from the body of the boat/van through the case of the inverter somehow and into the back of what would normally be the ground terminal in the output sockets? I did open mine and notice the ground terminals aren't connected to anything at all. It looks like these are 2 hot wires at 60 volts each instead of a hot and a neutral? Thanks
nice!! love the commentary
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Hi did this get resolved ?
errr the first one was sent back for replacement, they sent another, then when that went pop they issued a full refund and said bin it. i dont bin anything, I rebuilt it with better quality parts, now 3kw doesnt scare it...scares the batteries though lol
@@WereReallyRelayCamping that's fantastic ! I am tempted to give a pure sine wave one ago but seeing your video has made me think ?
@@brettpurchase-rathbone7948 well I don't worry too much as eBay's not too bad at honoring the gtee if not as described, then you can always take it up with PayPal, and you should have your PayPal linked to a credit card not a bank card or bank account as a credit card company can always just take the money right back. Upsets PayPal that does.....
@@WereReallyRelayCamping thanks for advice I always have confidence in eBay had issues in past and they have always sorted... The main selling point with this inverters for me is the remote so I can turn off when not in use as the inverter itself will be located in a hard to at place ... Hopefully all is going well with yours ? I am hoping to run a small induction hob off mine ...
@@brettpurchase-rathbone7948 our cheap induction hob won't work right on any of our inverters, best to ask seller if it will be compatible and that you can return if not etc
Great vid!
Smokin Hot
I had a smaller cheaper inverter that I never heard the fan come on, got ready to bypass my own fan or rig a temperature sensor. but came on when it got warm/higher loads.
Hope you had better luck with the replacement!
Been a year since you uploaded this. Hopefully someone has pointed out to you that this is a 1500w inverter. Not a 3000w.
The surge is 3000w but that can only be used for a matter of seconds. Less than 5 seconds.
So as soon as you exceeded 1500w it was sure to fail.
Perhaps of you had read the specs first. Or asked someone who was qualified.
If the seller seen this video there is no way he would have given you an exchange or refund.
If you want to draw 2000+ watts l would advise you to have someone who is qualified advise you. Or tell the seller how many watts you need to draw & they will advise a suitable inverter. But 2000+ watts is going to cost £200+
this was the 3000w '6000w' model, they replaced it with one with a working fan, it survived all my testing but failed going to full 2.2kw at something like 1-2c on a cold morning some days later, they said bin it, so i took it apart and found the problem, wrong mosfets fitted (on the output side), didnt match the part numbers printed on the pcb. the correct ones were fitted (actually uprated slightly) and its still going and doing 2.2kw to this day, about 3 weeks ago i noticed the output voltage had dropped, i think vibration may have jiggled the pot that sets it, but i cant be bothered to uninstall it, get it on the bench and fix it, 215v will have to do for now....
maybe when you go all sarcastic and say to read the specs, you should watch the video, it says "3000w / Surge Power 6000W" on the top of the inverter....
SMOKE? OF COURSE THIS IS A MODIFIED SINE WAVE INVERTER
What's waveform shape have to do with powering a resistive load?
ha ha you popt it
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