Biblical Israel is described in Isaiah 9.14-15, as the four signs of Leo (noble/royal head) thru the lying tail (Scorpio). The signs are always changing positions every 30 degrees/days.
Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil.
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Atheist will reject it. It is not about the evidence, but it is a matter of the heart. For me, it doesn't matter if it is real, I already have faith in the scriptures.
No... Christians are frustrated to give scientific theories, which they cannot quite remember. About the rivers turning red. I think there was something about the death of the fish, of the frogs, causing the flies... anyhoo, don't look at the scribes of man and their love of power, gold, land and control. Pray to the heavens, where we can all agree God exists. Maybe this is why the Bishops and Popes and their torturers and ungodly followers teach that ancient astrology is wicked. Well, they would, wouldn't they. Criminals, paedophiles, abusers. God have mercy on my soul. ❤ (cheers! 😂)
I’m the same. I don’t care if there is proof that Santa clause is real. I believe in the Christmas cards. I’ve seen his face! It’s right there on the front of the advent calendar and that’s all the proof that I need cz I have faith!
@Devils-advocate78 that seems like a disingenuous take. Santa Claus is a fictionalized version of a real person, but nobody actually believes the modern commercialized Santa flying around and bringing gifts. It's a mutual tradition that adults do for their kids. Billions of people actually believe in the biblical scriptures because there are various pieces of evidence, including archeological, historical references and eye witnesses, personal spiritual experiences, corroborating ancient tales (great flood), relics (shroud of Turin), etc., all which provide evidence (NOT definitive proof) of these events and people. To compare scripture to Santa Claus is such a low effort comparison that lacks any sort of education on the historicity of scripture.
How very typical! Eurocentric writers always desperate to align ancient Egypt with Semitic culture and mythology. Ancient Egypt was African in origin, culture and tradition until the various invasions. The biblical story of the exodus is a myth borrowed from Ancient Egyptian culture/ mythology just like the Jews borrowed several stories including the Great Flood from Babylonian mythology etc.
That’s the issue, which is actually biblical…there’s evidence of Him but the people’s hearts are harden and don’t want to believe. And there’s a spirit roaming, the prince of Persia that has blinded the minds of the world
@@jeffburton1326you misunderstand brother. If you analyze properly people just go through combinations of biological and psychological imbalances causing them to have a odd way of life. This repeated hardens their heart. Their own decisions cause this.
@@jeffburton1326 does that apply to everyone….No…. is that the Old Testament before the coming of Jesus… yes…. Do we follow the law of Moses no.. Do we follow Jesus. Yes… Did you give context….. no…. Him saying he hardened his heart is not contradictory because pharaoh had already done enough to where God had reason to do that so he can pay for his actions. Imagine a killer being given so much of his life to change. (This doesn’t apply in all cases don’t generalize this trying to create a counter argument) If he is just forgiven the next day he wouldn’t have ever paid for his actions. Pharaoh was given time and due to his actions that was done. Furthermore his heart was already hardened that verse just seems to be a way of expressing it again and making it clearer. This argument wasn’t thought out well but that’s fine everyone can learn. And God hardened his heart due to his idol worship, he hardened his heart to show he other Gods they worshiped were not powerful. He hardened his heart for the Israelite slaves he had. He hardened his heart to demonstrate his strength. You can’t really again use one verse and no context to create a whole argument. No disrespect but this just shows your not really finding a “inconsistency” but wish to find one for your own confirmation bias. You have sufficient hints to do research in if you want and fact check if you wish I am not dishonest.
Thank you for bringing this papyrus to me. The Egyptians mostly recorded the Great things they did, but the bad things that happened to them, they hid. The Bible will always be truth whether anyone believes it or not, it's OUR decision.
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Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four signs of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio. Summer is followed by winter aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. See Rev. 9.4, where Scorpio is the leader of these four signs/months.
'The Exodus' took place in 1461 B.C. during the reign of 'Thutmosis III of the Eighteenth Dynasty in Egypt.' The Hebrews were in bondage to the Egyptians for 210 years out of the 430 solar calendar years they sojourned in both Egypt and Canaan.
Yes, and there are scientists who have explained how that eruption could have led to the 10 plagues of Egypt, one actually causing the next, like a chain reaction, ending with the deaths of many Egyptians at that time.
The Bible confirms the papyrus. The Papyrus does not confirm the Bible. The Bible is the true authoritative document which confirms all the ancient documents
Thank you Sir. Praise the Lord Halleluyah. May the Eyes of the so called Mythical scholars, archeologists, Egyptologists, and Biblical chronologists open. The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. Those who are deliberatlely confusing the Truth of the Exodus as the Holy Bible states, will Face the WRATH of Yehovah on Judgement day.
Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil. Not proof of Exodus at all.
These ladies are far more valuable to society raising children at home to become moral, stable, happy citizens than they are making widgets at the widget factory. This is not necessarily a bad thing.
This exactly aligns with my Y-DNA paternal line migratory path provided by Familytree DNA Its crazy to imagine that these were my ancestors. The dates of the Ipuwer papuyrus and the dates for the migration of my forefathers through Egypt and into Canaan.
@@markaxworthy2508 it’s true it was a mixed multitude as is to this day. With Y-DNA we can specifically see who… as my paternal line goes into Canaan 1200 BC, and remains in the area until this day. Sephardic Iberia and eventually to America by 1619 to add.
@@silverdrowelf The same is true of Palestinians, except that their Canaanite ancestors stayed in situ while yours were on their extended world tour! If one is Ashkenazi, one's mitochondrial DNA is probably over 80% "ancient European", according to an article in "Nature".
@@markaxworthy2508haha world tour is right lol there are Ashkenazi 8-10% they say, plus according to a study my Ydna was placed in on FTDNA I match some chromosomes with Ashkenazi living in Europe currently. Likewise Probably the same or less for African Americans 8% with middle eastern ancestry. One early branch of E-M2 arrived as early as 2500bc in Canaan according to the haplotree.
@@silverdrowelf Very interesting. According to the Torah/Old Testament, the exodus occurred about 310 BCE - 1476 BCE. If it was correct, you shouldn't have any Canaanite DNA. It seems that, in fact, the Jews were actually originally Canaanites who gradually adopted monotheism on site in Canaan and who (at least according to the Torah/Old Testament) set out to kill the other, polytheistic, Canaanites. The Palestinians today also have Canaanite DNA, which implies that either (1) the ancient Jews failed to wipe the Canaanites out or (2) are descended from Jews who converted to Christianity and/or Islam during the Roman period. Either way, neither today's Jews nor today's Palestinians can today claim priority in Palestine.
The Pharaoh that ordered the killing of the babies and that Moses ran from was Pepi II , he is the one that can actually match the Biblical Pharaoh, this also matches the Jewish texts. So the Exodus Pharaoh who experienced the 10 plagues and let the Israelites go would have been Netjerkare Siptah. This also matches up with the timeline where Egypt would have been founded by Mizraim, any other Pharaoh after them it would mean Egypt would have existed pre-flood
@@johnwayne3085 No. Tithing is a work. As Ephesians 2 : 8-9 states "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" 9: "Not of works, lest any man should boast". Yet various verses in James 2 tells us that “Faith without works is dead”. This doesn’t mean that we need works after all but rather that genuine faith leads to good works and is proof that our faith in Jesus is a living faith. If we believe and have faith that Jesus is the Son of God and that he died and was risen again by His Father, that we might be saved, then by God’s grace we are saved. The simplest way of understanding that we are only saved by God’s grace, is that whatever we offer to God, it is inadequate in comparison to His utter perfection, so our salvation is unmerited and is an undeserved gift from God.
I believe the exodus took place similar to the story in the text. However this text could as easily been inspiration for the exodus story as easily as as inspired by the exodus story
This is a wild leap of reasoning. While there can be evidence in Egyptian records including the Ipuwa papyrus, to insist that this us a proof is not proven. If anything, Egyptian records, unless specific such as the bill of lading for the white limestone for the Great Pyramid casing. Must be considered as a specific view. While it can support some events, it is from the perspective and sensibility of the Egyptian writer. There is writing in tombs that relay an episode of starvation in upper Egypt and that Egypt had split into the Two lands including a civil war between regional governors so mentions of the “Plagues” in a poetic type of work can be used to support an artifact such as the Stele of Pharaoh Ahmose 1550 BCE. Where the scribe included a couple of events that can also support a migration if some sort if not as large as some theologically minded would claim. And since the papyrus is being claimed as having been inscribed during the 19th Dynasty, Ramses I, Seti I, Ramses II Merneptah, Ramses III Etc. While the Merneptah stele is the first Egyptian inscription of Israel. Since Egyptian history can be followed through the various dynasties and events credited to each pharaoh, then the papyrus can inly be some type of copy or a later transcription from older source material. The Hebrew narrative can only partially confirm as it was not inscribed until Circa 535 BCE, around a thousand years after the event. And Exodus seems to be from an orally transmitted epic poem. Again from only the perspective of the Hebrews. There are other aspects that can be explored, however, when an independent assessment is given can indicate that the theological aspect is inapplicable to the tale of the migration. The events can be explained as processes that we now have a greater understanding of that did ancient cultures and religions were an attempt to fulfill the human desire understand and control simultaneously.
The Conventional Chronology... and its ordering of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs' reigns... has been seriously challenged by many scholars in recent decades. The dating techniques used to support the conventional chronology are also subject to renewed scrutiny. One should be very cautious when throwing around statements like ''We know that'' and ''Claim X can't be true because everyone knows that...''
@@harveywabbit9541 Where did you hear or read that? What is your source? You don't believe they are the disembodied spirits of the children (aka giants) of the fallen angels that mated with the human women? Gen 6:4
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was killed while he prosecuted the poeple of israel, when the waters came over him and his army. Therefore, this pharaoh's mummy you will never find; and the name of this pharaoh was probably deleted by the very same egyptians or the next dynasty who destroyed that pharaoh's family.
Manetho himself wrote of the very sudden and bloodless takeover of Egypt by the Hyksos people. Could this not be a result of the destruction of their entire military in the Red Sea as scripture reports? Pharaoh took ALL of the chariots of Egypt, his horseman (cavalry) and the rest of his army, and pursued the Hebrews to their death. Exodus chapter 14
It predates the Exodus event by quite some time. The Hyksos took over because Semites had migrated down and built the city of Avaris. It was arguably the largest city in the ancient world with at least 100,000 living in it. The Hyksos took over because a dynasty had ended and there wasn't a strong ruler to begin a new dynasty, so the Hyksos just took charge.
@@blusheep2 Well according to S. Douglas Woodward, author of "Rebooting the Bible", the Exodus took place during the 17th century BC. That's much earlier than most believe. But his timeline is very compelling, and that is a fascinating story in itself.
@@francisbusa1074 I don't find his timeline compelling at all. Many of these guys that put the Exodus much earlier have seemingly insurmountable problems that they have to overcome. The only theory that I have seen, so far, that has no problems with the archaeological record is the late date during Rameses II. The only problem it has is with a literal chronology of the Bible but the literal chronology in the Bible also comes with a number of problems. To each their own though. I just want people to be honest about the data.
Because egyptologists have incorrectly dated the exodus using the outdated and flawed regnal system....they will most certainly dismiss this document regardless of its matching of the biblical account. Regardless of its authenticity.
The Egyptians themselves have the mummy of the Pharaoh of the Exodus in the museum in Cairo. They say his name was Merneptah. He reigned for only 10 years, and was drowned in the Red Sea chasing the Hebrew slaves whom he had released days earlier. His mummy is the only mummy that is white in color, the rest being black in color. The Egyptians say this is because he was found in the water of the Red Sea and taken back for burial. Merneptah was the only Pharaoh to have created a stele in which he tells of Israel being laid waste, or words to that effect. This stele was created while he lived and Israel were still slaves.
Well Mereneptah himself records that he defeated the people group called Israel after his war with the Libyans. I think you have some information wrong.
New interpretation ..look this debate was born out of the creation of catholicism...we can do more working together than we can work apart from each other.,.
Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four signs of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio. Summer is followed by winter aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. See Rev. 9.4, where Scorpio is the leader of these four signs/months.
Why should it be wed mud and not dry land? God is supernatural and being the Creator has the might to change the laws governing the third dimension. How about this phenomena in the Book of Joshua, Joshua 10: 12-14: 12 Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel: “Sun, stand still over Gibeon; And Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.” 13 So the sun stood still, And the moon stopped, Till the people had revenge Upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about A WHOLE DAY. 14 And there has been NO day like that, BEFORE it or AFTER it, that the Lord heeded the voice of a man; What God did He did them for His purposes. God is not benefited or lose anything by the belief or unbelief of human. It is human that is either losing or blessed by unbelief and belief, right? One person said it well, human unbelief is IRRELEVANT for it has no power to validate or invalidate God and His actions past, present, and future. Many blessing.
@@Vinimarshall450I do, else God would not have spoken to it. You will also find in the Book of Numbers, Numbers 22:28 - 31: 28 Then the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?” 29 And Balaam said to the donkey, “Because you have [a]abused me. I wish there were a sword in my hand, for now I would kill you!” 30 So the donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day? Was I ever [b]disposed to do this to you?” And he said, “No.” 31 Then the Lord opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the Angel of the Lord standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand; and he bowed his head and fell flat on his face. I read either in the Book of Jasher or Jubilee that the animals lost the speech after the fall of Adam and Eve. Please feel free to check them out. While they are not canonized, they are supplemental to a point as they were mentioned by a few Apostles. Many blessing.
The early date is absolutely NOT widely accepted and doesn’t fit the chronology remotely. The 480 yrs mentioned in 2 Kings just means 12 generations. By the way, that number is 440 yrs in the Septuagint.. Egypt had a stranglehold on Canaan in the early14th century whereas they lost control over Canaan during the bronze age collapse. The first mention of Israel outside the Bible is roughly 1207 BC.
The red sea was found with golden chariot wheel at the bottom. The real mount Sinai was found, with a burnt top. The place of the gold calf was found, at the foot of Mount Sinai. Moses alter was found. The Rock Moses split was found. The pillars Solomon erected to commemorate the red sea crossing was found with Moses song on it (on the Sadia Arabia side). The twelve wells Moses took the children of Israel to was found. The walls of Jericho were found. But the scoffers say SHOW ME PROOF. Even the new agers deny the bible, they say it was written by demons or the Vatican. As if anything good can come from demons or the Vatican. They will always ignore the evidence of their own eyes for their own interpretations. They will pick apart and dissect verses but they will never read the bible as a whole. They will forsake Jesus and his death for the lies from Satan believing they are god, connected to "God source". They would rather make Jesus a pagan pantheon god and call him an ascended master than to actually listen and do what he said. They scream and wail about "Changes in the bible" but never read the bible to know what those are. For this, all the evidence will be a testimony against them, they will have no excuse on the day they face Jesus.
The information you provided comes from a guy named Ron Wyatt who is a know charlatan. He feeds on the gullible. Let me give an example that will be simple for you to verify. In your list you mention that Mt. Sinai was found with a "burnt top." This comes from Ron Wyatt's video on the crossing site. In the video he talks about some ruins he found and looks up and shows you a black topped mountain and identifies it as the only mountain around that has a black top like that and it is the location of Mt. Sinai. Now you should be skeptical because he never went to the top of that mountain and got any samples of that black rock and that would have been nice in the 80s when he was there, but now we have modern tools. Go to Google Earth, and zoom into this "Mt. Sinai" then zoom out so that you can see the entire peninsula. What do you think you will see? You will see that the entire peninsula is covered with the same black topped mountains. These mountains are all over the place but Wyatt, the charlatan, told his viewers that it was the only one. He lied. He just showed you an angle from one direction that made it look like it was true. The "Mt. Sinai" in that range is on its edge so its not hard to take a picture making it look like the only one.
Actually I would love references to all the things supposedly found. And I have read the bible many times. It’s exactly what made me become spiritual instead of Christian.
@@blondefro Don't bother. This information all comes from a Charlatan named Ron Wyatt. Except for the walls of Jericho. That was found and published about in a paper about 2 years ago. I don't have the reference but it shouldn't be to hard to find. They found a mud brick wall that dated to the 13th century(late date of the Exodus theoryl). It was actually mentioned in Kathleen Kennedy's original report but I guess she hadn't done much excavation of it to identify it. I would say that there is quite a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting the Exodus and a very strong linguistic case. The conquest has verifiable evidences. The Mereneptah Stele speaks about the Israelites as a people group dated to the time of the beginning stages of the conquest. We got the wall at Jericho dating to it. We have a destruction layer at Hazor that dates to it. We found the Mt. Ebal altar. The Bible says that Joshua built it and the structure is Hebrew and an altar. We also have 300 Hebrew settlements that spring up "overnight" in Israel at that time as well.
Hello Sir, The dynasty of the ipwar papyrus is not compatible with the times of the Exodus, secondly there were 2 exodus, the first during the reign of Thitmos III, the Hyskos (They left Egypt peacefully) they moved to Jerusalem, the second exodus was during the reign of Ramses II, the rebellious Egyptians led by Osaseph were violently expelled from Egypt (Avaris), most Jews merge the 2 exodus into one, that analysis is incorrect, the two events is about 200 years, to make your timing accurately, understudy the annular eclipse of Joshua, it occurred in 1270 BC, that was the 'Sun standing still and the moon standing still, it's in the book of Joshua, substrate about 50 years from that time (40 years of wandering in the wilderness), it will place the second exodus to the long reign of Ramses II, it coincide with the detailed and concise analysis of Manetho, (Manetho was a bit biased but his analysis is correct). Thank you. NB A bulk of the tragedies of the 10 plagues was caused by the seismic activities, Mount Athena erupted around this time, that eruption affected the Nile, the affected Nile, affected the food chain, it led to all those catastrophe, red Nile, frogs left the water due to contamination, Livestock drank the contamination water and died, the dead Livestock brought flies, the smoke (CO, NO, SO), was toxic, it led to the death of the first borne, yes God doesn't like oppression, yes God intervened to free the oppressed Hebrews but it followed a natural process obeying the physical laws of nature. Thank you
Read genisis once egypt used to cultivate crops it just google it once in ancient civilization they used to grow crops along the river nile so what happened now are they growing crops are they cultivating no why what happened nile river didn't dried up but they cant grow crops why just think it logically also because soil lost its fertile why did it lost its fertile there is a huge river but it lost its fertile why just think it and google it does ancient Egyptians did cultivate crops you will get answer and if you want the answer deeply why did it happened like that then read bible from genisis not only exodus because there is a king in Egypt named joseph next to pharo there is a time of 7 years this world got in to deadly drought for 7 years and eygpt is the only place they supplied food to everyone read genisis 41: 57 every country during that time they came to eygpt to buy food so what happened now to eygpt then read exodus you will understand what happened just dont read bible or quran or bhagavadgita or any religious books blindly just research them we have google now so do some research you if you are a religious person if you have faith also just do some reserach because you will stand firmly on what you are believing
oh look, this magazine mentions superman and manhatten in the same article, that must mean superman exists... so what if a group of traveling idiots was seen by anyone else, that only means a single instance of part of an interpretation of an "exodus" was seen. it does not, in any way, validatr anything biblical. it's as much fantasy as superman, and less positively inspirational.
Just because only a single instance of an Exodus was seen by anyone else doesn't make the entire story a fantasy. I really don't understand the regurgitation of the superman line. Superman was a comic. It never presented itself as history. It wasn't recording history. The Egyptians were trying to record true things, as they saw it, in there texts and on their walls. Therefore, when we are looking at the text of Exodus and trying to validate it independently for its historical character, we look at other sources that verify or connect with individual elements of the story. The more we have of those things the more vetted it becomes and we can trust it
The Exodus, out of Egypt (winter) begins at the winter solstice and is completed at the spring equinox with entry into Damascus (new beginnings) aka the new sacred year.
“ Prove “ I hate that word. It has non place outside of mathematics. The Ipywr papyrus is “ evidence “ and evidence that I dearly love. But it is not Proof. In fact Jesus said blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen. Just about every argument and position people take in scripture whether theocratic, theological, or archeological has “ evidence “ for it. Why hasn’t God stepped in strongly to clarify these variable positions? Because the positions themselves separate the nature of people into those who love God for who and what He actually is and those who just make God in their own image . The many simply do not know the difference.
You must wait until the next spring equinox to go to Heaven (spring equinox - autumn equinox). Meanwhile, you'll have serve your time in the underworld (autumn equinox - spring equinox).
Your right. God doesn't need a helper but God is what God is and if that means Hes a tri-personal being then so be it. The understanding of a tri-personal God is taken from both Old and New Testaments. Its not just invented.
More lies and BS! Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil. There is no evidence at all that the early Israelites were in captivity in Egypt. There is also no evidence that around 2 million people spent 40 years is a desert you can walk across in two weeks! NO archeological evidence at all! They should be in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's tidiest campers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Miranda, you are the only one that lies because you have been corrected before, yet you keep saying the same stuff. If your going to call someone a liar then you should actually produce lies. Even in your explanation about the ipuwer evidence, you say "majority of scholars" which tells us all that there are other scholars that disagree with the majority opinion. That makes it an academic controversy, not a consensus which also means that this person isn't telling lies, they are just taking a minority view. If you're going to call someone a liar have the common decency to demonstrate that they know the truth but say otherwise. Now I actually agree with you about the Ipuwer evidence. I don't think it supports the Exodus but I admit that I'm not an expert on this piece. That being said the rest of what you wrote is being regurgitated by you when you've been corrected on it in the past. Ill write it again, in hopes that you will show some intellectual honesty and stop saying the same things over and over again. The 2 million figure comes from the verse that talks about 600 thousand fighting men in the Exodus. The word for "thousand" is notoriously hard to translate because the ancient language was consonantal. One word could have multiple meanings that was usually known by the context. In this case there are actually 4 possible translations for the word but the context doesn't help because all of the possibilities work in the context. Only one of the 4 options extrapolates to 2 million people. The next closest only extrapolates to 100,000 and the smallest extrapolation only gives us 25,000 people. We don't have evidence of the Hebrews because the Hebrews were just a group of tribes in a larger Semitic group that we DO have evidence of captivity for. In fact the only time in Egypt's history that the Egyptians took slaves from within their own border was from the time they kicked the Semitic Hyksos out of Egypt. The Hyksos capital remained a Semitic city after the Hyksos expulsion all the way up into the middle of Rameses II's reign when it, all of a sudden, becomes a ghost town. How do we know? Because it started to be used as a graveyard and all the graves so far have been Egyptian graves. As for walking across the Sinai in 2 weeks, you are purposely ignoring the text which tells us that God led the Hebrews through the wilderness for 40ish years because that generation had sinned. They acted as a nomadic people living in the wilderness for all that time and didn't try and reach Canaan. If you read the story you will see that they actually reached the border of the land quite quickly but was turned away from it by the direction of God. As for evidence, you wouldn't expect to find evidence of a nomadic group in an area 24000 square miles that has undergone quite a bit of erosion. Archeology is extremely expensive and they don't dig on a whim. They dig where they have evidence of significant occupation which is around cities. Even so, many cities have hardly been touched because they aren't deemed important enough to spend money on. So lets see if your rational or if you will keep saying the same stuff over and over. You don't have to believe in the Exodus or its metaphysical aspects, but at least be honest about the situation, evidence, and lack of it, when you write about it.
@@mirandahotspring4019 See, your not a rational thinker. Instead of adapting or countering my arguments you just act like another denialist. Why is it so hard to actually discuss the historical science and the conditions of the day without being triggered to attack a belief in God? You are proving the statement: "The average person doesn't believe because of evidence, but because of desire." You're proving this statement because you are showing your true colors. You don't take the position you hold about the Exodus because of evidence but because of your rejection of God Himself. Someone desires something they see a positive in. So what positive do you see in the rejection of God? Do you want to just follow your own passions and lusts? Did something bad happen to you or to a family member that turned you against God? What is the positive you see in rejecting God's existence? You accused a man of being a liar. You've been presented with the evidence against your position. If you keep using the same lines on people without at least moderating them, then you will be the one that is lying, and I will be sure to call it out.
May your eyes open to truth. May God forgive you. Maybe you should try to respect God and His Word and other people. Shame on you@@mirandahotspring4019
Completely false, while the papyrus itself dates to the perhaps the 13th Century BC, it's actually a copy of an earlier text which dates back to the 18th or 19th Century BC. So this video is like proclaiming the Codex Sinaiticus, which dates to the 4th Century AD means the entire Bible was only written in the 4th Century AD.
The Oppression and Exodus Story as told by the Sinai Inscriptions: a. Starting in 1905 AD, sixteen ancient Hebrew inscriptions from Egypt were discovered by Hilda & William Matthew Flinders Petrie at four sites: Serabit el-Khadim, Wadi Nasb, Wadi el-Hol and Lahun and, 1905 AD. b. The Petrie’s knew it was a script but were unable to decode it so they lay collecting dust for 100 years until they were translated for the first time in 2015 by Dr. Doug Petrovich. (First inscription found 1905). Labelled Sinai 357, 353, 360. Given date (c) 1480 BC. "He (Moses) sought occasion to cut away to barrenness our great number, our swelling without measure, but the quiver of our brothers was thoroughly despised, so he performed terror (10 plagues) against their quiver (meaning sons) and brought about a cry of wailing (death of the first born/the wipe out of the Egyptian Army, 600,000 chariots plus footmen). TRANSLATION OF SINAI 349 tablet. And another. "Our bound servitude had lingered. MOSES then provoked astonishment. It is a year of astonishment because of the Lady." Hilda & William Matthew, Flinders Petrie, Serabit el-Khadim, Egypt, 1905 dig. This inscription was thought to have been made by miners in the Desert of Sin. The 'Lady' is Baalat. Better known as the Golden Cow Israel worshipped. And, in this case - unlike the other artefacts, was written by Hebrews about Moses, and the plagues, written on stone tablets, part of a large collection. The stele, inscriptions on stone, and archaeological evidence is not in the naysayers' court. And the most recent transcriptions of Egyptian was published in 2016 confirms it. All outside the Bible. They're out of touch, out of date, and, most importantly, wrong. Add The Beni Hasan Tomb (a painting in the tomb of Rekhmire showing slaves making mudbricks), in Egypt, and Papyrus Anastasi 5, and the Instruction of Merikare (cf Nahum Sarna article entitled: “Israel in Egypt,” published in a volume edited by H. Shanks and entitled 'Ancient Israel (2nd ed. 1999) are important pieces of evidence regarding the fact that there was some sort of an Exodus. Happy now?
So you’ve gone from PROVE to seemingly offer archeological evidence literally within the first 2 minutes 🙈 typical bible basher. So there is no papyrus that’s been discovered that proves the exodus? No. I thought not
@Taniel-x9m No, there is no archeological evidence! How did they spend 40 years in a desert you can walk across in less than two weeks without leaving a single piece of archeological evidence? They should be in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's tidiest campers!
Lol no it doesn't. This is hilarious. We mapped the human genome and know for a fact the biblical telling is a myth not only that but we have records of how they became the Israelites. Also have plenty of archeological evidence that tells a different story. The bible was written in the iron ages lol
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff. There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality. Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh. The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth. Promoting genocide. Promoting slavery. Belittling women. Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff. There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality. Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh. The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth. Promoting genocide. Promoting slavery. Belittling women. Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff. There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality. Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh. The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth. Promoting genocide. Promoting slavery. Belittling women. Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff. There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality. Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh. The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth. Promoting genocide. Promoting slavery. Belittling women. Hows that for starters?
Egyptians weren't black. They didn't even depict themselves as black. They had specific ways of presenting different people groups and themselves. Blacks were depicted differently then Egyptians which were given a reddish color. Blacks, or "Nubians" were given the color you would expect. There was a time when the Nubians took control of Egypt and there are probably some depictions somewhere in Egypt from that time. I imagine that is where this wrong idea came from. You can be proud of yourself without trying to "blackwash" all of history. Don't do the thing you criticize white people for doing.
but his name was not Moses, and they were not slaves , the bible has put a twist to the exodus story , all stories from the bible are stolen from older texts , from Egypt , sumarian and Persian all put into one do your research
Great! More verifiable historical proof! I love presenting this to my husband and sons.
Biblical Israel is described in Isaiah 9.14-15, as the four signs of Leo (noble/royal head) thru the lying tail (Scorpio). The signs are always changing positions every 30 degrees/days.
Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil.
All will be revealed by almighty God the dirty secrets of the Devil and his agents
VICTORY belongs to our LORD JESUS CHRIST as the battle is the Lord’s.
Amen in Jesus name
Defending Judaism & Christianity is easy when you can find prophets & cherubin in your Yellow Pages.
@@Stupidityindex What does that even mean? Your name would seem to fit you.
Velikovsky found the proof in the Ipuwer papyrus about 100 years ago. Read "Ages in Chaos".
@Taniel-x9m est date of exodus?
@Taniel-x9mBecause the Egyptian texts predate the earliest fragments of biblical texts.
1513 bc
Atheist will reject it. It is not about the evidence, but it is a matter of the heart. For me, it doesn't matter if it is real, I already have faith in the scriptures.
No... Christians are frustrated to give scientific theories, which they cannot quite remember. About the rivers turning red. I think there was something about the death of the fish, of the frogs, causing the flies... anyhoo, don't look at the scribes of man and their love of power, gold, land and control. Pray to the heavens, where we can all agree God exists.
Maybe this is why the Bishops and Popes and their torturers and ungodly followers teach that ancient astrology is wicked. Well, they would, wouldn't they. Criminals, paedophiles, abusers. God have mercy on my soul. ❤ (cheers! 😂)
I’m the same. I don’t care if there is proof that Santa clause is real. I believe in the Christmas cards. I’ve seen his face! It’s right there on the front of the advent calendar and that’s all the proof that I need cz I have faith!
@Devils-advocate78 that seems like a disingenuous take. Santa Claus is a fictionalized version of a real person, but nobody actually believes the modern commercialized Santa flying around and bringing gifts. It's a mutual tradition that adults do for their kids. Billions of people actually believe in the biblical scriptures because there are various pieces of evidence, including archeological, historical references and eye witnesses, personal spiritual experiences, corroborating ancient tales (great flood), relics (shroud of Turin), etc., all which provide evidence (NOT definitive proof) of these events and people.
To compare scripture to Santa Claus is such a low effort comparison that lacks any sort of education on the historicity of scripture.
@@Devils-advocate78
Not EVEN the same. Just shows your maturity. 😮
Defending Judaism & Christianity is easy when you can find prophets & cherubin in your Yellow Pages.
Thank you. Non believers will only oppose such information.
How very typical! Eurocentric writers always desperate to align ancient Egypt with Semitic culture and mythology. Ancient Egypt was African in origin, culture and tradition until the various invasions. The biblical story of the exodus is a myth borrowed from Ancient Egyptian culture/ mythology just like the Jews borrowed several stories including the Great Flood from Babylonian mythology etc.
unfortunately yes
The Bible is reliable.
@@jimchasten9514 unbelievers will do their utmost to stop the truth to be known.
@@jimchasten9514 Nope! We cannot rely on the bible. The bible is a collection of myths and half truths! Definitely not reliable!
That’s the issue, which is actually biblical…there’s evidence of Him but the people’s hearts are harden and don’t want to believe. And there’s a spirit roaming, the prince of Persia that has blinded the minds of the world
Hardened hearts = No free will.
@@jeffburton1326you misunderstand brother. If you analyze properly people just go through combinations of biological and psychological imbalances causing them to have a odd way of life. This repeated hardens their heart. Their own decisions cause this.
@@himgonzaga2856 That's not what the bible claims. Stick with the program. "God hardened Pharaoh's heart". Or do you not believe the bible either?
@@jeffburton1326 does that apply to everyone….No…. is that the Old Testament before the coming of Jesus… yes…. Do we follow the law of Moses no.. Do we follow Jesus. Yes… Did you give context….. no…. Him saying he hardened his heart is not contradictory because pharaoh had already done enough to where God had reason to do that so he can pay for his actions. Imagine a killer being given so much of his life to change. (This doesn’t apply in all cases don’t generalize this trying to create a counter argument) If he is just forgiven the next day he wouldn’t have ever paid for his actions. Pharaoh was given time and due to his actions that was done. Furthermore his heart was already hardened that verse just seems to be a way of expressing it again and making it clearer. This argument wasn’t thought out well but that’s fine everyone can learn. And God hardened his heart due to his idol worship, he hardened his heart to show he other Gods they worshiped were not powerful. He hardened his heart for the Israelite slaves he had. He hardened his heart to demonstrate his strength. You can’t really again use one verse and no context to create a whole argument. No disrespect but this just shows your not really finding a “inconsistency” but wish to find one for your own confirmation bias. You have sufficient hints to do research in if you want and fact check if you wish I am not dishonest.
@@jeffburton1326 God doesn't harden all Hearts. They will harden on their own, in due time. Revelations is fairly illustrative of this.
Thank you for bringing this papyrus to me. The Egyptians mostly recorded the Great things they did, but the bad things that happened to them, they hid. The Bible will always be truth whether anyone believes it or not, it's OUR decision.
😎THE ORDER OF THE PLAGUES OF EGYPT WILL BE THE SAME TODAY AS OF OLD. THE FAITHFUL MUST SET ASIDE PURE WATER AND PROVISIONS AND SHELTER ACCORDING TO GODS ORDER IN EGYPT! MY PRAYERS AND BLESSINGS, OUR KING COMES!!!😎
Why are you yelling?
@@Nashvillain10SE why shouldn't I troll with no media
@@TomiLoveless There we go. That's better.
The Merneptah Stele, also known as the Israel Stele or the Victory Stele of Merneptah was discovered by Flinders Petrie in 1896.
Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four signs of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio.
Summer is followed by winter aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. See Rev. 9.4, where Scorpio is the leader of these four signs/months.
'The Exodus' took place in 1461 B.C. during the reign of 'Thutmosis III of the Eighteenth Dynasty in Egypt.' The Hebrews were in bondage to the Egyptians for 210 years out of the 430 solar calendar years they sojourned in both Egypt and Canaan.
Where did you get that year? 1446 is what I've got.
The Destroyer was in their skies then ... bout 1615 - 1613 BC, during the eruption of the Greek Island of THERA/SANTORINA
Yes, and there are scientists who have explained how that eruption could have led to the 10 plagues of Egypt, one actually causing the next, like a chain reaction, ending with the deaths of many Egyptians at that time.
And about 40 years later came the fall of Jericho.
The Bible confirms the papyrus. The Papyrus does not confirm the Bible. The Bible is the true authoritative document which confirms all the ancient documents
Greek myth became Jewish history.
Wishful thinking....
Nah, it's just BS.
@@mirandahotspring4019
Myth perverted to justify thievery and murder as in Palestine.
What ever comes “second” confirms whatever came “first”… so the papyrus confirms the biblical account.
I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you!
Thank you Sir.
Praise the Lord Halleluyah.
May the Eyes of the so called Mythical scholars, archeologists, Egyptologists, and Biblical chronologists open.
The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.
Those who are deliberatlely confusing the Truth of the Exodus as the Holy Bible states, will Face the WRATH of Yehovah on Judgement day.
They won't believe the Bible but they will believe this? ?
Thank, for telling truth.
Not a single mention of the Israelites, just a description of the cyclical problems caused by the vagaries of the Nile almost to this day.
Wow, pretty convincing!! Thanks!
Not a single mention of the Israelites, just a description of the cyclical problems caused by the vagaries of the Nile almost to this day.
Astounding. Great history that lead up to one of the biggest events in mankind history of God's law being given to man.
Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil.
Not proof of Exodus at all.
These ladies are far more valuable to society raising children at home to become moral, stable, happy citizens than they are making widgets at the widget factory. This is not necessarily a bad thing.
The text of the impure, validates the exodus in the year 1447 bce,we agree.
The exodus, out of Egypt (winter) is an annual event. We celebrate this every Easter.
BC, not bce.
@@ryaku5 the old testament is bce.
Thanks, Scriptures.
This exactly aligns with my Y-DNA paternal line migratory path provided by Familytree DNA Its crazy to imagine that these were my ancestors. The dates of the Ipuwer papuyrus and the dates for the migration of my forefathers through Egypt and into Canaan.
Not a single mention of the Israelites, just a description of the cyclical problems caused by the vagaries of the Nile almost to this day.
@@markaxworthy2508 it’s true it was a mixed multitude as is to this day. With Y-DNA we can specifically see who… as my paternal line goes into Canaan 1200 BC, and remains in the area until this day. Sephardic Iberia and eventually to America by 1619 to add.
@@silverdrowelf The same is true of Palestinians, except that their Canaanite ancestors stayed in situ while yours were on their extended world tour!
If one is Ashkenazi, one's mitochondrial DNA is probably over 80% "ancient European", according to an article in "Nature".
@@markaxworthy2508haha world tour is right lol there are Ashkenazi 8-10% they say, plus according to a study my Ydna was placed in on FTDNA I match some chromosomes with Ashkenazi living in Europe currently. Likewise Probably the same or less for African Americans 8% with middle eastern ancestry. One early branch of E-M2 arrived as early as 2500bc in Canaan according to the haplotree.
@@silverdrowelf Very interesting. According to the Torah/Old Testament, the exodus occurred about 310 BCE - 1476 BCE. If it was correct, you shouldn't have any Canaanite DNA. It seems that, in fact, the Jews were actually originally Canaanites who gradually adopted monotheism on site in Canaan and who (at least according to the Torah/Old Testament) set out to kill the other, polytheistic, Canaanites. The Palestinians today also have Canaanite DNA, which implies that either (1) the ancient Jews failed to wipe the Canaanites out or (2) are descended from Jews who converted to Christianity and/or Islam during the Roman period. Either way, neither today's Jews nor today's Palestinians can today claim priority in Palestine.
The Pharaoh that ordered the killing of the babies and that Moses ran from was Pepi II , he is the one that can actually match the Biblical Pharaoh, this also matches the Jewish texts. So the Exodus Pharaoh who experienced the 10 plagues and let the Israelites go would have been Netjerkare Siptah. This also matches up with the timeline where Egypt would have been founded by Mizraim, any other Pharaoh after them it would mean Egypt would have existed pre-flood
Moses is a personification of Aquarius and the rainy month of January.
@@harveywabbit9541 nope Moses was a real person.
@@KelssNition
Moses was Ganymede before he became Moses.
@@harveywabbit9541 i don't know what you are talking about, Moses was a man - a prophet, who freed the Israelites as instructed by God.
@@KelssNition
Moses is "the man" in Aquarius. He holds the water pitcher. Look up Aquarius constellation and you will see him.
Thank you!! 💘👍🙏👀
Keep looking you never know what you will find
Tutmose 3rd was the first Pharoah and Amenhotep 2nd was the Pharoah of the Exodus
It needs no proof, the Bible tells us it is true so it happened. By faith we are saved!
Not tithing?
@@johnwayne3085 Not sure how your comment is relevant ?
@@johnwayne3085 No. Tithing is a work. As Ephesians 2 : 8-9 states "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"
9: "Not of works, lest any man should boast".
Yet various verses in James 2 tells us that “Faith without works is dead”. This doesn’t mean that we need works after all but rather that genuine faith leads to good works and is proof that our faith in Jesus is a living faith.
If we believe and have faith that Jesus is the Son of God and that he died and was risen again by His Father, that we might be saved, then by God’s grace we are saved.
The simplest way of understanding that we are only saved by God’s grace, is that whatever we offer to God, it is inadequate in comparison to His utter perfection, so our salvation is unmerited and is an undeserved gift from God.
Unfortunately, even those who witnessed it still wandered away from the faithfulness to God. How sad.
No, by words you are deceived.
Exodus 21: 20 - 21
Amen
@12:54 the deciphering dude's left hand has an extra finger! Did I miss something?
The imagery is AI generated.
Thanks.
I believe the exodus took place similar to the story in the text.
However this text could as easily been inspiration for the exodus story as easily as as inspired by the exodus story
This is a wild leap of reasoning. While there can be evidence in Egyptian records including the Ipuwa papyrus, to insist that this us a proof is not proven. If anything, Egyptian records, unless specific such as the bill of lading for the white limestone for the Great Pyramid casing. Must be considered as a specific view. While it can support some events, it is from the perspective and sensibility of the Egyptian writer. There is writing in tombs that relay an episode of starvation in upper Egypt and that Egypt had split into the Two lands including a civil war between regional governors so mentions of the “Plagues” in a poetic type of work can be used to support an artifact such as the Stele of Pharaoh Ahmose 1550 BCE. Where the scribe included a couple of events that can also support a migration if some sort if not as large as some theologically minded would claim. And since the papyrus is being claimed as having been inscribed during the 19th Dynasty, Ramses I, Seti I, Ramses II Merneptah, Ramses III Etc. While the Merneptah stele is the first Egyptian inscription of Israel. Since Egyptian history can be followed through the various dynasties and events credited to each pharaoh, then the papyrus can inly be some type of copy or a later transcription from older source material. The Hebrew narrative can only partially confirm as it was not inscribed until Circa 535 BCE, around a thousand years after the event. And Exodus seems to be from an orally transmitted epic poem. Again from only the perspective of the Hebrews. There are other aspects that can be explored, however, when an independent assessment is given can indicate that the theological aspect is inapplicable to the tale of the migration. The events can be explained as processes that we now have a greater understanding of that did ancient cultures and religions were an attempt to fulfill the human desire understand and control simultaneously.
Amenhotep II (Amenophis) was likely the pharao who stood against Moses until😮 and during the time of the Exodus.
The Conventional Chronology... and its ordering of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs' reigns... has been seriously challenged by many scholars in recent decades. The dating techniques used to support the conventional chronology are also subject to renewed scrutiny. One should be very cautious when throwing around statements like ''We know that'' and ''Claim X can't be true because everyone knows that...''
Thank you! Anyone else notice that at 12:53, the man in the painting has an extra finger on one hand?
at minute 12:53 the picture has a man with 5 fingers and one thumb. 6 in all. Why is the picture like that?
If you pay attention, most AI generated images...just can't get the fingers or hands right
Apparently there were a people with 6 fingers and an open handed greeting was used identify them
Apparently there were a people with 6 fingers and an open handed greeting was used identify them
Weird at 12:56 the image has 6 fingers like Nephilim had... Was this planned?
Nephilim are the winter clouds which produce rain (tears) and flying serpents (lightning).
@@harveywabbit9541 Where did you hear or read that? What is your source? You don't believe they are the disembodied spirits of the children (aka giants) of the fallen angels that mated with the human women? Gen 6:4
@@saraglasgow271
Look up the story of Nephele.
What does Egypt look like in this generation 2024 ? We seen and heard the generations of those who passed away
Rameses is the two words of Ra (Sun) and meses (son of). Kings were always "suns".
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was killed while he prosecuted the poeple of israel, when the waters came over him and his army. Therefore, this pharaoh's mummy you will never find; and the name of this pharaoh was probably deleted by the very same egyptians or the next dynasty who destroyed that pharaoh's family.
correct
Amazing thank u
Manetho himself wrote of the very sudden and bloodless takeover of Egypt by the Hyksos people. Could this not be a result of the destruction of their entire military in the Red Sea as scripture reports? Pharaoh took ALL of the chariots of Egypt, his horseman (cavalry) and the rest of his army, and pursued the Hebrews to their death. Exodus chapter 14
It predates the Exodus event by quite some time. The Hyksos took over because Semites had migrated down and built the city of Avaris. It was arguably the largest city in the ancient world with at least 100,000 living in it. The Hyksos took over because a dynasty had ended and there wasn't a strong ruler to begin a new dynasty, so the Hyksos just took charge.
@@blusheep2 Well according to S. Douglas Woodward, author of "Rebooting the Bible", the Exodus took place during the 17th century BC. That's much earlier than most believe. But his timeline is very compelling, and that is a fascinating story in itself.
@@francisbusa1074 I don't find his timeline compelling at all. Many of these guys that put the Exodus much earlier have seemingly insurmountable problems that they have to overcome. The only theory that I have seen, so far, that has no problems with the archaeological record is the late date during Rameses II. The only problem it has is with a literal chronology of the Bible but the literal chronology in the Bible also comes with a number of problems.
To each their own though. I just want people to be honest about the data.
When men don't believe, God makes the rocks cry out.
Welcome to archeology.
At minute 12:55, why 6 fingers?
Because egyptologists have incorrectly dated the exodus using the outdated and flawed regnal system....they will most certainly dismiss this document regardless of its matching of the biblical account. Regardless of its authenticity.
The Exodus transpired in the year 2447 BC. I kings 6:1 should read ,1480 years between the Exodus and the 4th year of the reign of Solomon
Just a papyrus? On what monument is it commemorated?
More interesting old testament stuff.
The Egyptians themselves have the mummy of the Pharaoh of the Exodus in the museum in Cairo. They say his name was Merneptah. He reigned for only 10 years, and was drowned in the Red Sea chasing the Hebrew slaves whom he had released days earlier. His mummy is the only mummy that is white in color, the rest being black in color. The Egyptians say this is because he was found in the water of the Red Sea and taken back for burial.
Merneptah was the only Pharaoh to have created a stele in which he tells of Israel being laid waste, or words to that effect. This stele was created while he lived and Israel were still slaves.
Well Mereneptah himself records that he defeated the people group called Israel after his war with the Libyans. I think you have some information wrong.
New interpretation ..look this debate was born out of the creation of catholicism...we can do more working together than we can work apart from each other.,.
Obviously "clutching at papyrus" here...
And not one of the many civilizations around who were in constant communication with each other noticed a thing
Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four signs of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio.
Summer is followed by winter aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. See Rev. 9.4, where Scorpio is the leader of these four signs/months.
Did you know every plague that God sent to Egypt was also a god? The god of frogs, etc
Equivocó, concluyen tres periodos y solo por el nombre y monoteismo verás Moisés --tutmoses IV
There was no "interpretation" of timelines. The Bible doesn't say who the Pharoh is. So it must be calculated. Which is about 3400-3500 years ago.
How did 3 million people with cattle and carts cross wet mud , it would take weeks
How about forty days of Lent?
Why should it be wed mud and not dry land? God is supernatural and being the Creator has the might to change the laws governing the third dimension. How about this phenomena in the Book of Joshua, Joshua 10: 12-14:
12 Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel:
“Sun, stand still over Gibeon;
And Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”
13 So the sun stood still,
And the moon stopped,
Till the people had revenge
Upon their enemies.
Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about A WHOLE DAY.
14 And there has been NO day like that, BEFORE it or AFTER it, that the Lord heeded the voice of a man;
What God did He did them for His purposes. God is not benefited or lose anything by the belief or unbelief of human. It is human that is either losing or blessed by unbelief and belief, right? One person said it well, human unbelief is IRRELEVANT for it has no power to validate or invalidate God and His actions past, present, and future. Many blessing.
@@10000Rays do you beleive in talking serpents aswell
@@harveywabbit9541 stop being daft , even if they had a months head start they would be caught within a week
@@Vinimarshall450I do, else God would not have spoken to it. You will also find in the Book of Numbers, Numbers 22:28 - 31:
28 Then the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?”
29 And Balaam said to the donkey, “Because you have [a]abused me. I wish there were a sword in my hand, for now I would kill you!”
30 So the donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day? Was I ever [b]disposed to do this to you?”
And he said, “No.”
31 Then the Lord opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the Angel of the Lord standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand; and he bowed his head and fell flat on his face.
I read either in the Book of Jasher or Jubilee that the animals lost the speech after the fall of Adam and Eve. Please feel free to check them out. While they are not canonized, they are supplemental to a point as they were mentioned by a few Apostles. Many blessing.
Six fingers 12:55
Hmmm that guy reading the papyrus had six fingers on his left hand around the 13:10 mark
And IPUWER called them KEWBREWS.
Nope. Not a single mention of the Israelites, just a description of the cyclical problems caused by the vagaries of the Nile almost to this day.
The Exodus occurred in 1446 BC.
The early date is absolutely NOT widely accepted and doesn’t fit the chronology remotely. The 480 yrs mentioned in 2 Kings just means 12 generations. By the way, that number is 440 yrs in the Septuagint.. Egypt had a stranglehold on Canaan in the early14th century whereas they lost control over Canaan during the bronze age collapse. The first mention of Israel outside the Bible is roughly 1207 BC.
The red sea was found with golden chariot wheel at the bottom.
The real mount Sinai was found, with a burnt top.
The place of the gold calf was found, at the foot of Mount Sinai.
Moses alter was found.
The Rock Moses split was found.
The pillars Solomon erected to commemorate the red sea crossing was found with Moses song on it (on the Sadia Arabia side).
The twelve wells Moses took the children of Israel to was found.
The walls of Jericho were found.
But the scoffers say SHOW ME PROOF.
Even the new agers deny the bible, they say it was written by demons or the Vatican.
As if anything good can come from demons or the Vatican.
They will always ignore the evidence of their own eyes for their own interpretations.
They will pick apart and dissect verses but they will never read the bible as a whole.
They will forsake Jesus and his death for the lies from Satan believing they are god, connected to "God source".
They would rather make Jesus a pagan pantheon god and call him an ascended master than to actually listen and do what he said.
They scream and wail about "Changes in the bible" but never read the bible to know what those are.
For this, all the evidence will be a testimony against them, they will have no excuse on the day they face Jesus.
The information you provided comes from a guy named Ron Wyatt who is a know charlatan. He feeds on the gullible.
Let me give an example that will be simple for you to verify. In your list you mention that Mt. Sinai was found with a "burnt top." This comes from Ron Wyatt's video on the crossing site. In the video he talks about some ruins he found and looks up and shows you a black topped mountain and identifies it as the only mountain around that has a black top like that and it is the location of Mt. Sinai.
Now you should be skeptical because he never went to the top of that mountain and got any samples of that black rock and that would have been nice in the 80s when he was there, but now we have modern tools.
Go to Google Earth, and zoom into this "Mt. Sinai" then zoom out so that you can see the entire peninsula. What do you think you will see? You will see that the entire peninsula is covered with the same black topped mountains. These mountains are all over the place but Wyatt, the charlatan, told his viewers that it was the only one. He lied. He just showed you an angle from one direction that made it look like it was true. The "Mt. Sinai" in that range is on its edge so its not hard to take a picture making it look like the only one.
Actually I would love references to all the things supposedly found. And I have read the bible many times. It’s exactly what made me become spiritual instead of Christian.
@@blondefro Don't bother. This information all comes from a Charlatan named Ron Wyatt.
Except for the walls of Jericho. That was found and published about in a paper about 2 years ago. I don't have the reference but it shouldn't be to hard to find. They found a mud brick wall that dated to the 13th century(late date of the Exodus theoryl). It was actually mentioned in Kathleen Kennedy's original report but I guess she hadn't done much excavation of it to identify it.
I would say that there is quite a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting the Exodus and a very strong linguistic case. The conquest has verifiable evidences. The Mereneptah Stele speaks about the Israelites as a people group dated to the time of the beginning stages of the conquest. We got the wall at Jericho dating to it. We have a destruction layer at Hazor that dates to it. We found the Mt. Ebal altar. The Bible says that Joshua built it and the structure is Hebrew and an altar. We also have 300 Hebrew settlements that spring up "overnight" in Israel at that time as well.
Hello Sir, The dynasty of the ipwar papyrus is not compatible with the times of the Exodus, secondly there were 2 exodus, the first during the reign of Thitmos III, the Hyskos (They left Egypt peacefully) they moved to Jerusalem, the second exodus was during the reign of Ramses II, the rebellious Egyptians led by Osaseph were violently expelled from Egypt (Avaris), most Jews merge the 2 exodus into one, that analysis is incorrect, the two events is about 200 years, to make your timing accurately, understudy the annular eclipse of Joshua, it occurred in 1270 BC, that was the 'Sun standing still and the moon standing still, it's in the book of Joshua, substrate about 50 years from that time (40 years of wandering in the wilderness), it will place the second exodus to the long reign of Ramses II, it coincide with the detailed and concise analysis of Manetho, (Manetho was a bit biased but his analysis is correct).
Thank you.
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A bulk of the tragedies of the 10 plagues was caused by the seismic activities, Mount Athena erupted around this time, that eruption affected the Nile, the affected Nile, affected the food chain, it led to all those catastrophe, red Nile, frogs left the water due to contamination, Livestock drank the contamination water and died, the dead Livestock brought flies, the smoke (CO, NO, SO), was toxic, it led to the death of the first borne, yes God doesn't like oppression, yes God intervened to free the oppressed Hebrews but it followed a natural process obeying the physical laws of nature.
Thank you
Livestock that ate grass consumed volcanic ash from the eruption of Thera. Imagine eating microscopic ground glass.
Read genisis once egypt used to cultivate crops it just google it once in ancient civilization they used to grow crops along the river nile so what happened now are they growing crops are they cultivating no why what happened nile river didn't dried up but they cant grow crops why just think it logically also because soil lost its fertile why did it lost its fertile there is a huge river but it lost its fertile why just think it and google it does ancient Egyptians did cultivate crops you will get answer and if you want the answer deeply why did it happened like that then read bible from genisis not only exodus because there is a king in Egypt named joseph next to pharo there is a time of 7 years this world got in to deadly drought for 7 years and eygpt is the only place they supplied food to everyone read genisis 41: 57 every country during that time they came to eygpt to buy food so what happened now to eygpt then read exodus you will understand what happened just dont read bible or quran or bhagavadgita or any religious books blindly just research them we have google now so do some research you if you are a religious person if you have faith also just do some reserach because you will stand firmly on what you are believing
It is entirely possible that Ipuwer and biblical accounts refer to the same natural events - no god needed.
oh look, this magazine mentions superman and manhatten in the same article, that must mean superman exists...
so what if a group of traveling idiots was seen by anyone else, that only means a single instance of part of an interpretation of an "exodus" was seen. it does not, in any way, validatr anything biblical. it's as much fantasy as superman, and less positively inspirational.
Just because only a single instance of an Exodus was seen by anyone else doesn't make the entire story a fantasy.
I really don't understand the regurgitation of the superman line. Superman was a comic. It never presented itself as history. It wasn't recording history. The Egyptians were trying to record true things, as they saw it, in there texts and on their walls. Therefore, when we are looking at the text of Exodus and trying to validate it independently for its historical character, we look at other sources that verify or connect with individual elements of the story. The more we have of those things the more vetted it becomes and we can trust it
Similarities and guesses, not proof 🤔🤔🤔
The Exodus, out of Egypt (winter) begins at the winter solstice and is completed at the spring equinox with entry into Damascus (new beginnings) aka the new sacred year.
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Prove “ I hate that word. It has non place outside of mathematics. The Ipywr papyrus is “ evidence “ and evidence that I dearly love. But it is not Proof. In fact Jesus said blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen. Just about every argument and position people take in scripture whether theocratic, theological, or archeological has “ evidence “ for it. Why hasn’t God stepped in strongly to clarify these variable positions? Because the positions themselves separate the nature of people into those who love God for who and what He actually is and those who just make God in their own image . The many simply do not know the difference.
HOPING FOR RAPTURE/EXODUS TO HEAVEN
THIS YEAR AMEN
You must wait until the next spring equinox to go to Heaven (spring equinox - autumn equinox). Meanwhile, you'll have serve your time in the underworld (autumn equinox - spring equinox).
We’re talking about the only word of HaShem. Not the book about the Jesus guy. G*D doesn’t red a helper.
Your right. God doesn't need a helper but God is what God is and if that means Hes a tri-personal being then so be it. The understanding of a tri-personal God is taken from both Old and New Testaments. Its not just invented.
Ridiculously loud background music. Very irritating.
I am Christian but why don't you use your real voice and were can we see a repliaca or the real thing displayed today!!?
More lies and BS!
Ipuwer has often been put forward in popular literature as confirmation of the biblical account of the Exodus, most notably because of its statement that "the river is blood" and its frequent references to servants running away. This assertion has not gained acceptance among the majority of scholars. There are disparities between Ipuwer and the narrative in the Book of Exodus, such as that the papyrus describes the Asiatics as arriving in Egypt rather than leaving. The papyrus' statement that the "river is blood" phrase may refer to the red sediment colouring the Nile during disastrous floods, or simply be a poetic image of turmoil.
There is no evidence at all that the early Israelites were in captivity in Egypt.
There is also no evidence that around 2 million people spent 40 years is a desert you can walk across in two weeks! NO archeological evidence at all!
They should be in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's tidiest campers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Miranda, you are the only one that lies because you have been corrected before, yet you keep saying the same stuff.
If your going to call someone a liar then you should actually produce lies. Even in your explanation about the ipuwer evidence, you say "majority of scholars" which tells us all that there are other scholars that disagree with the majority opinion. That makes it an academic controversy, not a consensus which also means that this person isn't telling lies, they are just taking a minority view. If you're going to call someone a liar have the common decency to demonstrate that they know the truth but say otherwise.
Now I actually agree with you about the Ipuwer evidence. I don't think it supports the Exodus but I admit that I'm not an expert on this piece. That being said the rest of what you wrote is being regurgitated by you when you've been corrected on it in the past. Ill write it again, in hopes that you will show some intellectual honesty and stop saying the same things over and over again.
The 2 million figure comes from the verse that talks about 600 thousand fighting men in the Exodus. The word for "thousand" is notoriously hard to translate because the ancient language was consonantal. One word could have multiple meanings that was usually known by the context. In this case there are actually 4 possible translations for the word but the context doesn't help because all of the possibilities work in the context. Only one of the 4 options extrapolates to 2 million people. The next closest only extrapolates to 100,000 and the smallest extrapolation only gives us 25,000 people.
We don't have evidence of the Hebrews because the Hebrews were just a group of tribes in a larger Semitic group that we DO have evidence of captivity for. In fact the only time in Egypt's history that the Egyptians took slaves from within their own border was from the time they kicked the Semitic Hyksos out of Egypt. The Hyksos capital remained a Semitic city after the Hyksos expulsion all the way up into the middle of Rameses II's reign when it, all of a sudden, becomes a ghost town. How do we know? Because it started to be used as a graveyard and all the graves so far have been Egyptian graves.
As for walking across the Sinai in 2 weeks, you are purposely ignoring the text which tells us that God led the Hebrews through the wilderness for 40ish years because that generation had sinned. They acted as a nomadic people living in the wilderness for all that time and didn't try and reach Canaan. If you read the story you will see that they actually reached the border of the land quite quickly but was turned away from it by the direction of God. As for evidence, you wouldn't expect to find evidence of a nomadic group in an area 24000 square miles that has undergone quite a bit of erosion. Archeology is extremely expensive and they don't dig on a whim. They dig where they have evidence of significant occupation which is around cities. Even so, many cities have hardly been touched because they aren't deemed important enough to spend money on.
So lets see if your rational or if you will keep saying the same stuff over and over. You don't have to believe in the Exodus or its metaphysical aspects, but at least be honest about the situation, evidence, and lack of it, when you write about it.
@@blusheep2 Cope harder! There was no Egyptian captivity! No mythical god hardened any Pharoah's heart. Just the usual nonsense of the bible!
@@mirandahotspring4019 See, your not a rational thinker. Instead of adapting or countering my arguments you just act like another denialist. Why is it so hard to actually discuss the historical science and the conditions of the day without being triggered to attack a belief in God?
You are proving the statement: "The average person doesn't believe because of evidence, but because of desire." You're proving this statement because you are showing your true colors. You don't take the position you hold about the Exodus because of evidence but because of your rejection of God Himself.
Someone desires something they see a positive in. So what positive do you see in the rejection of God? Do you want to just follow your own passions and lusts? Did something bad happen to you or to a family member that turned you against God? What is the positive you see in rejecting God's existence?
You accused a man of being a liar. You've been presented with the evidence against your position. If you keep using the same lines on people without at least moderating them, then you will be the one that is lying, and I will be sure to call it out.
May your eyes open to truth. May God forgive you. Maybe you should try to respect God and His Word and other people. Shame on you@@mirandahotspring4019
No river turned into blood,lol. The Nile affects more than just Egypt.
Was Egypt's punishment, not others.
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Hebrews, they are called Hebrews! Semites are Lydians Arameans Assyrians Elamites Arabs and Jews.
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They are ALL descendants of SHEM ( hence Semites) one of the three sons of Noah!
The Minoan Eruption on Thera is a likely cause of the Catastrophe!
Completely false, while the papyrus itself dates to the perhaps the 13th Century BC, it's actually a copy of an earlier text which dates back to the 18th or 19th Century BC.
So this video is like proclaiming the Codex Sinaiticus, which dates to the 4th Century AD means the entire Bible was only written in the 4th Century AD.
Amen , hallelujah in Jesus name
Nope. Not a single mention of the Israelites, just a description of the cyclical problems caused by the vagaries of the Nile almost to this day. Next?
The Oppression and Exodus Story as told by the Sinai Inscriptions:
a. Starting in 1905 AD, sixteen ancient Hebrew inscriptions from Egypt were discovered by Hilda & William Matthew Flinders Petrie at four sites: Serabit el-Khadim, Wadi Nasb, Wadi el-Hol and Lahun and, 1905 AD.
b. The Petrie’s knew it was a script but were unable to decode it so they lay collecting dust for 100 years until they were translated for the first time in 2015 by Dr. Doug Petrovich. (First inscription found 1905). Labelled Sinai 357, 353, 360. Given date (c) 1480 BC. "He (Moses) sought occasion to cut away to barrenness our great number, our swelling without measure, but the quiver of our brothers was thoroughly despised, so he performed terror (10 plagues) against their quiver (meaning sons) and brought about a cry of wailing (death of the first born/the wipe out of the Egyptian Army, 600,000 chariots plus footmen). TRANSLATION OF SINAI 349 tablet.
And another. "Our bound servitude had lingered. MOSES then provoked astonishment. It is a year of astonishment because of the Lady." Hilda & William Matthew, Flinders Petrie, Serabit el-Khadim, Egypt, 1905 dig. This inscription was thought to have been made by miners in the Desert of Sin. The 'Lady' is Baalat. Better known as the Golden Cow Israel worshipped. And, in this case - unlike the other artefacts, was written by Hebrews about Moses, and the plagues, written on stone tablets, part of a large collection.
The stele, inscriptions on stone, and archaeological evidence is not in the naysayers' court. And the most recent transcriptions of Egyptian was published in 2016 confirms it. All outside the Bible. They're out of touch, out of date, and, most importantly, wrong.
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The Beni Hasan Tomb (a painting in the tomb of Rekhmire showing slaves making mudbricks), in Egypt, and
Papyrus Anastasi 5, and the Instruction of Merikare (cf Nahum Sarna article entitled: “Israel in Egypt,” published in a volume edited by H. Shanks and entitled 'Ancient Israel (2nd ed. 1999) are important pieces of evidence regarding the fact that there was some sort of an Exodus.
Happy now?
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Israel is a compound word of Isra/Ysra/Asra aka PHALLUs and El
So you’ve gone from PROVE to seemingly offer archeological evidence literally within the first 2 minutes 🙈 typical bible basher. So there is no papyrus that’s been discovered that proves the exodus? No. I thought not
@Taniel-x9m No, there is no archeological evidence!
How did they spend 40 years in a desert you can walk across in less than two weeks without leaving a single piece of archeological evidence?
They should be in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's tidiest campers!
@@mirandahotspring4019 The Bible explains it...the Israelites were led in circles for 40 years as a punishment.
@@verenatuna9010 And managed to leave absolutely no archeological evidence! No, it didn't happen. Just one more BS story in a book full of them!
@@mirandahotspring4019 Not true. There's some evidence
@@verenatuna9010 There's some Ron Wyatt and his friends made up, that's about all.
Lol no it doesn't. This is hilarious. We mapped the human genome and know for a fact the biblical telling is a myth not only that but we have records of how they became the Israelites. Also have plenty of archeological evidence that tells a different story. The bible was written in the iron ages lol
Isaiah 9.14-15, describes Israel (summer) as the four signs of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio.
The bible is full of a lot of crap
Which part exactly do you think is crap and why? And how much of it do you think is crap and how much do you think its true?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff.
There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality.
Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh.
The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth.
Promoting genocide.
Promoting slavery.
Belittling women.
Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff.
There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality.
Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh.
The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth.
Promoting genocide.
Promoting slavery.
Belittling women.
Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff.
There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality.
Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh.
The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth.
Promoting genocide.
Promoting slavery.
Belittling women.
Hows that for starters?
@@blusheep2 there is some true stuff mixed with made of stuff.
There's two creation tales and not only do they contradict each other but they don't match reality.
Then theres the tale of Noah which, besides over a dozen reasons which make it impossible, was plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh.
The book of Joshua infers the sun revolves around the earth.
Promoting genocide.
Promoting slavery.
Belittling women.
Hows that for starters?
Why do you show white people as Egyptians and they were black tell the truth
Egyptians weren't black. They didn't even depict themselves as black. They had specific ways of presenting different people groups and themselves. Blacks were depicted differently then Egyptians which were given a reddish color. Blacks, or "Nubians" were given the color you would expect.
There was a time when the Nubians took control of Egypt and there are probably some depictions somewhere in Egypt from that time. I imagine that is where this wrong idea came from. You can be proud of yourself without trying to "blackwash" all of history. Don't do the thing you criticize white people for doing.
@@blusheep2 the sons of Mizraim are a black type of people.
It confirms the Bible. Watch Patterns of Evidence.
Wow! Overpowering background music ruined this video.
but his name was not Moses, and they were not slaves , the bible has put a twist to the exodus story , all stories from the bible are stolen from older texts , from Egypt , sumarian and Persian all put into one do your research
prove it... show us using examples..
You are clueless
@@mickhealy572 Start with the Epic of Gilgamesh.
I would like to see the evidence that you are baseing this claim on
@@WBFNBS8809 Start with the Epic of Gilgamesh.