Great to see the side-by-side; I thought mine looked better, but the comparison drives it home. It’s too bad this wasn’t the initial release software, because that first wave of impressions and reviews would have been quite different. On the other hand, this probably gets them another bump in interest as the algorithm resurfaces the device in people’s feeds with praise for the improvements.
Yeah I was really impressed with it too. I finally have a remarkable I'm probably not going to give away anytime soon. Of course, the really funny irony is that if I'd hung onto my initial remarkable I would still have these features😂
Thank you for this video. I'm really excited about this update. Thank you for going in return and for living my dream of having four remarkables lol. Subbed.
I just got the official 3.16 update and I noticed the color difference in magazines right away. Your color chart makes it more clear and proves it without any doubts. Most of the pages I just leave it "adaptive" instead of turning it off to see the photos in the right colors. It is definitely less yellow, so blue and red colors stands our a lot more.
Just noticed that with the contrast filter set to "adaptive" the page transitions in ebooks are much less distracting and more look other e-ink devices (still without ghosting) - interesting!
I am one of those light writers. I was so frustrated by my new RPP because it missed most of my letters (l the sides of e’s and o’s). They exchanged the pen and then the device to try and fix it (helped a little), but this new version has made the device as reliable is my RM2 for writing.
I am impressed that such a small update (0.01 difference) made such dramatic difference in the color rendering. What good is 20,000 hues when you can't see some of them? The Paper Pro needs the shapes update and it becomes a much better contender. The reMarkable Paper Pro is still something of a work in progress but getting better all the time.
Nice, I don't know if the real image is the same as on the video, but on the video the leopard looks sharper too. They now made what I gave as a suggestion to improve things: to autodetect parts of a page as text or graphic, and apply the filter selectively. I thought it would not be possible, but they already did it, wow! The colour gradations look a lot better as well.
Thank you for this very exciting update, I would nevertheless recommend to wait for your own device to update from 3.15 to 3.16 to conclude about the causal effect of wrong calibration on the yellowishness of the screen : I remember seing side by side RMPP - same release - demonstrating differences in white/yellowish background aspect of the screen. Maybe is it a deeper and production issue rather than software issue. Let's see what will happen with the final 3.16 release. Testimonies from this community will be interesting for potential future customers
I am curious about the serial nrs on your devices! I have seen some posts/videos about a screen brightness difference between older serial nrs and newer ones!
thanks for the update! since the system wide Tagging-System is a huge benefit of the reMarkable system I do miss some comments about the changes to the Tagging system - but I‘ll find it out as soon as the update has arrived here :-)
Could You check if the more white background is indeed caused by a software update? For example, could You check a specific page on a specific document on both devices. Then, when You update the left/darker tablet to the 3.16 software, You could check if there are still differences between those two. Because this may be caused either by the update or by some differences in the screen itself.
Absolutely, when the other device receives the update, I intend to check that. However, software updates most definitely can improve this kind of a thing on this panel, as they have the complete control over how they drive the panel. Also, to dispute the rumor-mill at the core as well, both devices are of the same age, so the first batch of units, both were received on the same exact day. It will be interesting to see if there are differences in hardware between different units of the same "age".
@MyDeepGuide I wonder how much brighter can the screen get? There must be some limit, but I wonder how much the darkness of the screen is caused by it's hardware properties/components and how much by the way the particles are controlled. Nevertheless, thank You very much for the great content, as usual. Can't wait to see further discoveries. 😉
@@MyDeepGuide Please Voya, when you come back from vacation, don't forget to check if the update is the cause of the whitening of the background. It would be great if that were the case!
@@MyDeepGuide were you ever able to confirm this was fixed by the update? it would be very helpful for me as I am currently on the fence about purchasing due to the yellow whites. Thanks!
Great review. Please publicly encourage the company to move the type folio functions toward a true word processor. I have spent quite a bit of money on the new RM Pro and type folio and that functioning remains rudimentary. Oh, yes, please also encourage them to improve the brightness of the front light, which I believe they can do through a software update. There is a general consensus that it needs to be brighter. Thank you.
Thank you. I got the paper pro last month but will be returning even though I am on the beta. The dim light on the color screen is unusable for me in the daytime and the low contrast compared to other eink devices. I thought my eyesight gor worse and even made an appointment to update my prescription. You also mentioned it here when comparing remarkable 2 and the boox go 10.3. I am using it as a student for pdf annotating and the text not being contrast enough is so distracting when I got this for reading and writing. The writing is great though and I like the software even though it is limited. I thought even the bw remarkable 2 which has better contrast due to being bw than paper pro would be enough and I see now I can't use anything less thanb300 dpi for black for dedicated pdf reading. The pups on paper pro are good but its not adequate for pdf reading for me especially invombination with the dim light for an color screen. Ill be getting the note max for school and should of just waited even though I needed something.
I wonder how many RMPPs were returned because of the poor pdf colour and contrast rendering which has been improved with this update so soon after release.
I did recognize the great improvements when it comes to colour with the update 3.16. Even with the readability of text inside coloured books. But not with a brighter background. Your one looks so great that i'm asking myself if something is wrong with mine. Is this possible?
I was reading various discussions that early devices simply have a yellower screen and the newer ones are whiter hinting at a hardware issue. Voja, when both devices are off, how do they compare? I'm wondering if the yellow tint can really be remedied with software or if it is indeed a hardware issue? Thank you as always for such detailed analysis!
Yellow tint can definitely be remedied by a software update as this is something that software calibration can tell the display driver basically "how hard to push it". However, once my RMPP gets the update 3.16 I will check it and report back if there are differences between both devices, when they are running the same update. Also, both devices are the first batch, sent out and received on the same exact day, so there is no difference in "age".
I think the quality of updates was hindered due to a software implementation of rMPP. So now they have it and can focus on improving through updates. I am curious about what things will be add and made better.
Don't forget about important company management changes as well. I think that what you said, in combination with internal changes also is something that might give Remarkable an opportunity to gradually change certain things, to the better. Or I hope at least 😁
With the latest software update 3.17.0.62, you can no longer sync files larger than 100MB via the desktop app. I was told that this is due to stability issues. I don't understand what this company's idea is of making the use of their device more and more laborious.
Nope, both units were sent out on the same exact day and received the same exact day. You shouldn't believe everything you hear, only the things that provide some kind of facts or evidence behind it to back the claims, if they are of significant importance.
I feel the battery life seems shorter with the new update. I hope Voja will do another battery test when 3.17 comes out. I already updated to the 3.17 beta, it feels it is a little better than 3.16. 3.17 is a big update as well and definitely needs another review.
Everyone in this community hello and hope you’re having a good day. I need advice please. I’ve been watching tons of videos over the last seven days and I feel like this device really could be something to help me. I’m a 51-year-with ADHD and I become forgetful, but I have high pace sales job and I need to be able to keep up with that and life at the same time and minimize how much paper and clutter I have, would this be a good device to go with? I just wanna make the investment once for the long haul hopefully, I don’t wanna buy a device for this and then a device that does this, I just want the one. And I already have an Amazon for books. I’m an avid notetaker and I highlight and use different inks when I take notes is why I’m looking at the pro. Thanks so much for any help.
I wish Remarkable would release a software update that eliminated the post-stroke flickering that happens when writing in color. A dealbreaker to me. 😕
The "yellowness" of the left RM is there from the beginning. It's even in the UI. Watch your video, maybe it's more pronounced than in real life. As if the screen degraded into yellow with time? I presume the left one got much more use from you. Visible at 3:27. I wouldn't say that's the calibration of the white. The yellowness is not uniform. It's actually visible throughout the whole RMPro section. When you view your guide PDF, I know, it's still a PDF, but the background is white, there shouldn't be much difference cause of the filters. On the video it's tremendous. The left one is so much more yellow than the right one.
Yes this is a specialized ePaper focused review channel, and an opportunity to offer a real back to back look at what the update brings to the platform for the viewers. What's the point of the comment, I'm curious, so can you please clarify it to me so that I don't make a wrong assumption?
This is day and night difference on ReMarkable Paper Pro. Amazing to see it side by side, thank you!
Thanks Voya, always great to see your updates!
This is VERY exciting. Now I can't wait until my Paper Pro gets the update!
Great to see the side-by-side; I thought mine looked better, but the comparison drives it home. It’s too bad this wasn’t the initial release software, because that first wave of impressions and reviews would have been quite different.
On the other hand, this probably gets them another bump in interest as the algorithm resurfaces the device in people’s feeds with praise for the improvements.
Excellent summary and explanation of these improvements! Really helpful!
Yeah I was really impressed with it too. I finally have a remarkable I'm probably not going to give away anytime soon.
Of course, the really funny irony is that if I'd hung onto my initial remarkable I would still have these features😂
Thank you for this video. I'm really excited about this update. Thank you for going in return and for living my dream of having four remarkables lol. Subbed.
Thanks for the great and helpful comparison! Keep up your excellent work!
I just got the official 3.16 update and I noticed the color difference in magazines right away. Your color chart makes it more clear and proves it without any doubts. Most of the pages I just leave it "adaptive" instead of turning it off to see the photos in the right colors. It is definitely less yellow, so blue and red colors stands our a lot more.
3.17 is a game changer for this device 😊
Thank you for your insights on the RMPP.
Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for covering the update! Wish there were something to be done about the refresh flashing. That's a hard no for me
Definitely, these are good news. Its time to change my old boox 7.8 inches. Very useful video.
Just noticed that with the contrast filter set to "adaptive" the page transitions in ebooks are much less distracting and more look other e-ink devices (still without ghosting) - interesting!
I am one of those light writers. I was so frustrated by my new RPP because it missed most of my letters (l the sides of e’s and o’s). They exchanged the pen and then the device to try and fix it (helped a little), but this new version has made the device as reliable is my RM2 for writing.
I am impressed that such a small update (0.01 difference) made such dramatic difference in the color rendering.
What good is 20,000 hues when you can't see some of them? The Paper Pro needs the shapes update and it becomes a much better contender. The reMarkable Paper Pro is still something of a work in progress but getting better all the time.
Nice, I don't know if the real image is the same as on the video, but on the video the leopard looks sharper too.
They now made what I gave as a suggestion to improve things: to autodetect parts of a page as text or graphic, and apply the filter selectively.
I thought it would not be possible, but they already did it, wow!
The colour gradations look a lot better as well.
The difference in the white background is very noticeable.
Thank you for this very exciting update, I would nevertheless recommend to wait for your own device to update from 3.15 to 3.16 to conclude about the causal effect of wrong calibration on the yellowishness of the screen : I remember seing side by side RMPP - same release - demonstrating differences in white/yellowish background aspect of the screen. Maybe is it a deeper and production issue rather than software issue. Let's see what will happen with the final 3.16 release. Testimonies from this community will be interesting for potential future customers
@FredericTourand Indeed ! The difference in the blue is so huge ! Hard to believe that that is just software calibration
I am curious about the serial nrs on your devices! I have seen some posts/videos about a screen brightness difference between older serial nrs and newer ones!
thanks for the update! since the system wide Tagging-System is a huge benefit of the reMarkable system I do miss some comments about the changes to the Tagging system - but I‘ll find it out as soon as the update has arrived here :-)
Quite a nice update. More layout options will seem a minor improvment compared to the color. It is quite nice though. Thanks for the video.
Could You check if the more white background is indeed caused by a software update? For example, could You check a specific page on a specific document on both devices. Then, when You update the left/darker tablet to the 3.16 software, You could check if there are still differences between those two.
Because this may be caused either by the update or by some differences in the screen itself.
Absolutely, when the other device receives the update, I intend to check that. However, software updates most definitely can improve this kind of a thing on this panel, as they have the complete control over how they drive the panel.
Also, to dispute the rumor-mill at the core as well, both devices are of the same age, so the first batch of units, both were received on the same exact day.
It will be interesting to see if there are differences in hardware between different units of the same "age".
@MyDeepGuide I wonder how much brighter can the screen get? There must be some limit, but I wonder how much the darkness of the screen is caused by it's hardware properties/components and how much by the way the particles are controlled.
Nevertheless, thank You very much for the great content, as usual. Can't wait to see further discoveries. 😉
@@MyDeepGuide Please Voya, when you come back from vacation, don't forget to check if the update is the cause of the whitening of the background. It would be great if that were the case!
@@MyDeepGuide were you ever able to confirm this was fixed by the update? it would be very helpful for me as I am currently on the fence about purchasing due to the yellow whites. Thanks!
Wow, pages look way whiter. Is this really just the update or a settings thing?
Same document, same everything, except the update. It's quite a difference.
@@MyDeepGuideBut how much of the difference is due to the possible difference between the two RMPPs?
They were identical when I compared them before the update.
Great review. Please publicly encourage the company to move the type folio functions toward a true word processor. I have spent quite a bit of money on the new RM Pro and type folio and that functioning remains rudimentary. Oh, yes, please also encourage them to improve the brightness of the front light, which I believe they can do through a software update. There is a general consensus that it needs to be brighter. Thank you.
Would you share that color PDF you're using please?
Thank you. I got the paper pro last month but will be returning even though I am on the beta. The dim light on the color screen is unusable for me in the daytime and the low contrast compared to other eink devices. I thought my eyesight gor worse and even made an appointment to update my prescription. You also mentioned it here when comparing remarkable 2 and the boox go 10.3. I am using it as a student for pdf annotating and the text not being contrast enough is so distracting when I got this for reading and writing. The writing is great though and I like the software even though it is limited. I thought even the bw remarkable 2 which has better contrast due to being bw than paper pro would be enough and I see now I can't use anything less thanb300 dpi for black for dedicated pdf reading. The pups on paper pro are good but its not adequate for pdf reading for me especially invombination with the dim light for an color screen. Ill be getting the note max for school and should of just waited even though I needed something.
I wonder how many RMPPs were returned because of the poor pdf colour and contrast rendering which has been improved with this update so soon after release.
I did recognize the great improvements when it comes to colour with the update 3.16. Even with the readability of text inside coloured books. But not with a brighter background. Your one looks so great that i'm asking myself if something is wrong with mine. Is this possible?
Thank you for the very detailed video. Will this work with and synch with the MS Office 365 version of OneNote? Cheers.
Can you, pls, provide link to download the color pallete sheet? Thank you Voya! I have version 3.16.0.63
@@konstantinkonstantinov3117 I am interested as well!
You have waaaay too many ReMarkables lying around 😅
Surprised to see how much they've improved the yellow screen!
I was reading various discussions that early devices simply have a yellower screen and the newer ones are whiter hinting at a hardware issue. Voja, when both devices are off, how do they compare? I'm wondering if the yellow tint can really be remedied with software or if it is indeed a hardware issue? Thank you as always for such detailed analysis!
Yellow tint can definitely be remedied by a software update as this is something that software calibration can tell the display driver basically "how hard to push it". However, once my RMPP gets the update 3.16 I will check it and report back if there are differences between both devices, when they are running the same update.
Also, both devices are the first batch, sent out and received on the same exact day, so there is no difference in "age".
I think the quality of updates was hindered due to a software implementation of rMPP. So now they have it and can focus on improving through updates. I am curious about what things will be add and made better.
Don't forget about important company management changes as well. I think that what you said, in combination with internal changes also is something that might give Remarkable an opportunity to gradually change certain things, to the better. Or I hope at least 😁
I have the 3.16 but not the new contrast effects? I am in developper mode for boosting the light
My release notes show black not blue on my Pro. Interesting.
It would be nice if they would update the typing with more formatting features.
i hope they fixed in 3.17..
With the latest software update 3.17.0.62, you can no longer sync files larger than 100MB via the desktop app. I was told that this is due to stability issues. I don't understand what this company's idea is of making the use of their device more and more laborious.
I'm a bit confused: did the screen get more white in general or only when reading PDFs?
Any idea how long we typically wait between beta and final release?
Hey MDG, is the 3.16 RMPP newer? I heard the new panels are whiter than the first batch?
Nope, both units were sent out on the same exact day and received the same exact day.
You shouldn't believe everything you hear, only the things that provide some kind of facts or evidence behind it to back the claims, if they are of significant importance.
Two videos within an hour? Is it a scheduling error?
Yupps, but I noticed it too late, and I'm just letting it be. Remarkable update video was supposed to come out this Friday
I feel the battery life seems shorter with the new update. I hope Voja will do another battery test when 3.17 comes out. I already updated to the 3.17 beta, it feels it is a little better than 3.16. 3.17 is a big update as well and definitely needs another review.
You may have missed it, but the update 3.17 has already been covered.
Was 3.17 covered in this video or another one? I do not see it.
Ah, my bad, I read wrong. I'll cover the 3.17 once it's at its final beta version or much more likely, when it's officially released.
Funny… my RM PP is still on Version 3.15.4.2
Is the screen whiter even when the device is off?
is beta?
Everyone in this community hello and hope you’re having a good day. I need advice please. I’ve been watching tons of videos over the last seven days and I feel like this device really could be something to help me. I’m a 51-year-with ADHD and I become forgetful, but I have high pace sales job and I need to be able to keep up with that and life at the same time and minimize how much paper and clutter I have, would this be a good device to go with? I just wanna make the investment once for the long haul hopefully, I don’t wanna buy a device for this and then a device that does this, I just want the one. And I already have an Amazon for books. I’m an avid notetaker and I highlight and use different inks when I take notes is why I’m looking at the pro. Thanks so much for any help.
I wish Remarkable would release a software update that eliminated the post-stroke flickering that happens when writing in color. A dealbreaker to me. 😕
The "yellowness" of the left RM is there from the beginning. It's even in the UI. Watch your video, maybe it's more pronounced than in real life. As if the screen degraded into yellow with time? I presume the left one got much more use from you. Visible at 3:27. I wouldn't say that's the calibration of the white. The yellowness is not uniform.
It's actually visible throughout the whole RMPro section. When you view your guide PDF, I know, it's still a PDF, but the background is white, there shouldn't be much difference cause of the filters. On the video it's tremendous. The left one is so much more yellow than the right one.
This guy... 4 remarkables
Yes this is a specialized ePaper focused review channel, and an opportunity to offer a real back to back look at what the update brings to the platform for the viewers. What's the point of the comment, I'm curious, so can you please clarify it to me so that I don't make a wrong assumption?
@@MyDeepGuide He's a troll. Keep doing you ✊
@@MyDeepGuide its too much give me one pls
This guy is one of the best when it comes to objective and unbiased reviews about e papaer / e paper like devices .
Definitely 👍
too bad, the flickering is very terrible...