What is 'dopamine fasting' and is it good for you? - BBC REEL
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- In recent years, 'dopamine fasting' has become increasingly popular among the tech workers of Silicon Valley. But what is 'dopamine fasting' and is it actually good for you?
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"All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone" -Blaise Pascal (in the 1600s!)
Yeah coz our brain was not built to sit idle
Men sure have problems, eh?
If thats your reasoning will be using stone and aticks until now
Dumb quote
Love it !
Irony is we are watching this also on a addictive platform.
Not really, you get the idea here and from there decide if and when you will apply it. And it’s a cycle, you enter fasting period, you go out of it, so on
@@joonotfins Well it's the beginning then it goes on......
Well, actually, I'm also watching "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", at the same time. It's a beautiful day outside but much too hot.
Addiction to learn new stuff
So true
i am 17 years old. I was addicted to anime, reels, UA-cam, nonstop music and other internet related things like shopping and games. I quit all of these at the same time because I was aiming to score high in my exams. After a few days I experienced sudden stress and anxiety and was confused about what was going on with me. I had gotten anhedonia because of sudden drop of dopamine and was very very scared about my future. It's been 1 month and I'm still having a few symptoms.
I get a lot of mood swings, I don't enjoy anything as much as I used to before, I get scared of many things, I get suicidal thoughts even though I would never do such a thing. These suicidal thoughts make me overthink and give so much distress that I disconnect from the world and just keep thinking about why all this is happening to me.
There have been a few positive changes since the past month. It's very difficult for me to handle this. I'm glad I have such wonderful parents and friends and that is why I get panicked and scared about getting suicidal thoughts. Please tell me what I can do to have a speedy recovery so I can enjoy life again. I really really hope this is temporary.
This happened to me. For few weeks it's overwhelming. I just kept thinking about future and took inspiration to be a realistic anime char. Well, my diet, exercise and some time fasting made me mindful in my work.
Sometimes this happens due to low T hormone.
I had a similar situation, I took up on a hobby playing acoustic drum, chopping vegetables, cleaning utensils, dancing alone listening to music, while doing these things I make my brain remember that being bored is natural and perfectly ok, I feel much better after I do these things, it's kind of meditative. Also I used to procrastinate things While I was addicted, so I started making a TODO list and assign priority to them, I execute and tick them one by one, this helps me... Please try this I hope a speedy recovery to you.
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I've been doing it once every 3 months for 2 weeks. Dopamine fasting is more about cutting down or stopping things what you love the most for certain period of time ,just be by yourself and detach from things you love or are dependent on or enjoy the most .what I can tell you is it refreshes you quite a bit and gives lot of perspective ..
You, not Me. Balance is my choice and, I'm anti-religious delusions. ✌
Try having a job, not really something that is doable.
@@flemming1286 it's doable if you find a way to work around it, we've got people who go to the gym, school, then work. You can do it
@Flemming dopamine fasting is not shutting yourself from all activities. You're just supposed to take a break from activities that trigger dopamine like social media, video games, any pleasure seeking activities, watching movies or shows, junk food.
By doing this over a period of time you'll find things like working out or doing better at your work or school and any healthy activity will seem interesting.
I don't think detaching from things you love will help. I think it's detaching from things that causes an unhealthy amount of dopamine release in the reward pathway that puts you in pain later. People may love things that add value to their lives and the world which also releases dopamine. It's staying away from the behaviours or activities that overstimulate your brain and can ruin you.
5:18 >>> These words have become an "earworm" for me.
"There is value biochemically, physiologically, evolutionarily in being bored and being alone with your thoughts"
Salam Alikum Muhammad, did you try these tips to fast from Dopamine? And how was it. It’s Ramadan and I want to start dopamine fasting
@@Wand_mdin ramadhan we don’t eat during the day and this is a form of dopamine fasting i guess, cause we are forcing ourselves to not eat since dopamine can be released by food
There is a HUGE difference between pleasure and happiness.
Pleasure is temporary, easy.
Happiness lingers, and can be permanent, yet is created slowly, increnentally.
I recommend a book, The Hacking of the American Mind, by Robert H. Lustig, who also wrote a book on sugar addiction, Fat Chance.
Probably Humans haven't much time remaining before the electricity goes out, so not to worry. Climate Change will fix everything. 😜
im just trying to get rich, happiness can wait for now.
thanks for the recommendations
i did an outward bound course before high school in 2019 and thinking back it was a major dopamine fast. For 10 days: no electronics devices, social interaction was just 14 people i never met before, hiked/canoed for majority of the day, slept outdoors, food was limited and no sweets, and to top it off 20 hour self isolation period at the end. I came back a new person.
What was a fictional thing?
This is incredible! Thank you!
Best way to dopamine fast is to go to a place where there is no internet and also only cook and prepare your food, and hang out with family and friends. For me this place is deep in Oaxaca, Mexico in a village where my grandparents live. Everytime I come back from a vacation there my brain feels completely refreshed and motivated.
Or just go outside without your phone and wallet.
@@kanister21 I heard the advice to stare at a wall long enough until work becomes your dopamine
Dopamine fasting is fictional.
@@kanister21dopamine fasting is fictional.
@@jichaelmorgan3796something lied about as advice?
I seriously feel like despite all the abundance, this era is truly the worst time for anyone to be growing up.
i agree, i think its also because this era's quite new with technology and modern addictions, i wish i was born much later as well
Nop. It’s the best time because there is far less poverty.
@@sandeshbhandare7238 speak for yourself. I live in the global south and eventhough extreme poverty has decreased substantially, extreme inequality is also on the rise. People are trapped in the middle income trap on their day to day jobs void of any life changing opportunities while the rich gets richer from corruption.
Interesting. Many religions (including my own) recommend periods of fasting. In my own faith it’s for many reasons, but a big one is by fasting from something that is good (that is, there is nothing wrong with it in itself), you are better able to have self control to say no to things that are destructive. It’s practice in self control. It’s recommended for limited periods, not all the time.
I think we actually need a balance in everything. Don't over indulge in social devices, keep a balance with offline activities and u r good.
Social devices are fictional. Humans cant be social with human slaves, human who aren’t enslaved when human slaves still live.
Dopamine detox is a real game changer, once you get the hang of it.
Everyone who is trying: Keep going, you got this 💪🏻
Yes sir
Dopamine detox is fictional.
I like the idea, but I think there is also some responsibility among creators of addictive apps and devices, to acknowledge this. And to build product with that in mind.
Yea, and their responsibility is towards the investors. Thats capitalism
The whole thing is fuelled for market. Aimed for the attention of highest possible consumers. It is upon the user to see that, what we use does not end up using us. We should be wary of what terms and conditions we accept for the service we get .
One solution though. Pay for the services we use and then as part of payment agreement, a clause which do not allow to show advertisements or share userdata with any external entity. If some sort of such generic license model is proposed and adopted (somewhat philosophically similar to open source SW licences), then it might go away. Like if youtube says there is adv free mode based on "blahblah" license model and comes at blablah price per month. That could kill the root cause (companies need money, users dont pay, so companies choose to sell the users to others who will pay)
@@NishanthSalahudeen ikr they're just doing the job they get paid for
Yeah but it’s not their responsibility for us to control our psychology. Think of it like another obstacle to get over, not easily put it on someone else to do the hard work for us!
My performance has degraded since I was in my final year at school. Thanks to internet and digital devices, I have still been experiencing the issues regarding focused attention 😓
Edit: I have read Dopamine Detox by Thibaut Meurisse and applied the 48-hour rule. Accordingly, it worked well for me. I am thinking of following the rules in the book
Same
what's the 48 hour rule?
@@SanusiAdewale Research on internet
The slaves version of performance?
@@SanusiAdewale Refraining from excitements for 48 long hours
thank you! so helpful
At the end, when she said, it’s better to get the dopamine directly and paying for it upfront… Is that basically saying it’s best to get your dopamine organically like exercising being outside or reading a book? 📕 as opposed to social media scrolling video games and binge watching TV. I feel those things are like the junk food of entertainment.
Superb info.... much needed in today's day n age
I ❤ the pay for it up front analogy/strategy. Never heard it put that way before💪🏾...
Well it seems that all those long boring Sundays I spent as a kid and teenager through the seventies in the uk probably did me some good after all. Not much in the way of a dopamine rush on a February Sunday afternoon for a 13 year old on a Yorkshire council estate in 1975. Character building I think they would call it.
Oh god, the SHEER BOREDOM of being a child in the last century were astounding. Luckily i grew up in the nineties so it wasn't so bad for me, but whenever I visited my grandmothers place it was like being thrown back in time thirty years and the boredom was absolutely crippling. I've seen adults talk about the boredome of the 70s (or even before) and it sounds basically traumatic.
Thanks for sharing 🙏
It's not dopamine fasting. It's normalizing our dopamine receptor.
It'a simple, just get less contact with any device for starter. If it's hard, force it, bit by bit. Don't too much. The relapse is a pain in the ass.
It is dopamine fasting, everyone here is trying to revert their brains to a state before technology and modern society.. (Not beneficial for technology or modern society)
Yeah bro its just that nothing really gets me excited and i am going to do nofap, hope it works and also i'll be reducing my phone usage down to twice a week for 10 minutes only
“Dopamine receptor” and not dopamine receptor.
Did you ever check if a human slave has the body parts required to speak?
Dopamine fasting is great, but I also recommend pursuing worthwhile pain. The classical example is of course exercise, but there are many others.
What are the other ones?
Ice baths
I moved house and have not connected the net yet, been reading more and less screens 🙌
Could we get more resources and literature on this topic?
Facintating stuff! Thanks.
Very informative video 👍
I think this helped me arrive closer to the answer to my question. “What is this “pain”?And I am now seeing this pain is just a biological mechanism. Where I keep thinking this inability to just sit still is bc I don’t want to face myself, my traumas/problems, insecurities and I’m seeking endless distraction from that. I’m the one attaching this meaning to the pain. But this pain just is
Just what I was looking for to find an answer to the Question “ why am I feeling weightless sometimes like I stare at stuff and my mind gets blank. Couldn’t find the actual answer until I came up with this video and it says that the more you have fun the more consequences will it have as a pain. 😢
Halfway through the vid, and I haven't turned it off yet. Useful points. My start of day routine is good, but I see I need to add some things.
I like this video. I think I need something like this right now.
Very interesting. Thank you.
Wonderful! Now I got a hip excuse for my self-induced coma on social media.
I find pleasure in silence, meditation, immersion in nature, and withdrawal from society. I don't know about others, but I suspect I'm not "dopamine fasting" when I do these things. I feel high at those times, maybe it's not dopamine? IDK. Then again, I'm not a social media doom scroll kind of guy. I find little pleasure there.
edit: My weekly day of silence was often my best day of the week. It's sad I don't do it anymore.
#2 I get it now, my dopamine fast is my daily life at work.
/satire
👀👀👀
"There is also some evidence that the brain releases more dopamine when we meditate. The change in consciousness that occurs during meditation may trigger its release."
I became a hermit in 2010. My only connection with real Humans is minimal and I take a break from digital Media every night. Sometimes, every day, too. ✌❤🎶 Also, I don't eat pharmaceuticals like so many Americans do. They tend to rot the brain.
So, it requires going deep. Dopamine is a good thing. The problem is a "dopamine spike". So, the "high amount of pleasure in short amount of time" is the problem. Because after this, the body balances out and makes dopamine's baseline level lower and that's what we feel as a "hangover".
So, better call it "dopamine management" in order to keep it maximized all the time evenly. And what you do is a very efective way to do that.
@@acharich 😂
Maybe I should take up some of this stuff and so get some
dopamine induced joy in life
Thank you 🥲
Good vid that explains stuff to help me think about it
Great Information
I'm doing this right now.. hopefully it will do me good..
thank you
it sounds great i will do it every saturday from now on along with my fast
The last part of the video where she explains to pay for dopamine gave me goosebumps thinking about the magic and complexity and fairness in our creation.
She explains..? You check that that slave has the body parts required to speak?
Thanks
At one point in the video it says a dopamine fast of 24 hours will balance you, then later we are told it takes 30 days for the "gremlins" to get off the balance when you are avoiding behaviours that causes you problems. So which is it, balance after 24 hours or 30 days?
A dopamine fast sounds like my life. I'm retired, have no family, do not leave home more than 3 or 4 times a month, have few friends (well, only one actually) , a poor appetite, and the majority of my time is spent reading (I use the internet for a short time each day, and use no social media). I also write in my journal every day. My dopamine levels must be very low, but as dopamine is a natural part of the human condition, surely you can suffer from low levels as much as high.
I also feel that what you do during a dopamine fast would not have an effect for many people, being outside in nature, writing, and even meditation can be so pleasurable that surely you are still being stimulated to produce the dopamine.
30 days is what ONE particular person recommends and they focused the fast on ONE dopamine source eg a certain drug or activity.
The 24 hour on the other hand is fasting from all electronic stimulation.
You've demonstrated a potential RACING MIND, one that moves fast but struggles to concentrate on details and therefore misses KEY TAKEAWAYS. The 24 hour or just a few hours ELECTRONICS FAST may be good to try for better focus.
You seem to be a very mentally strong person. These “new” theories such as these are perhaps just flavour of the month topic. There will be another new theory in a few years.
In 30 days it become harmonal balance. Whe u go for 24 hour away for walk etc that means stay with self and nature. Dopamine release when u r imagining thungs. When u r totally present in momen u r not produce high dose of dopamine
Its fiction.
It takes a lot of Discipline to follow through with one of these.
it's called shabbat, six days do your work but rest on the seventh day (whether it's Saturday or Sunday for ye)
Rather than seeing the dopamine as a villain, try to use it as a tool to gain good habits.
Sometimes the lack of dophamine causes their one problems
Lack of fiction causes what problem?
I spend about 6 weeks on retreat with no electronics and lots of nature and meditation.
Thank you Anna Lembke.. dopamine is necessary to move period.. so a full fast is known as "catatonic state" lolll... the reward system and dopamine are a different story almost...
I was going to say, what about exercise? Glad it’s even better than the fast.
informative
So the tech executives that got us hooked on this stuff are now getting off it themselves. Good job, bros.
Good, This was one of my random research to heal that time . The after effect from narsistic abuse.
6:35 OK, but exercising also gives you dopamine, as the act itself is rewarding. Like Runner's high
Great stuff! I take a break from cocaine 3 days outta the week just to reset. Ill try 4 days next month.
Are you a slave?
And yet this video is visually very much stimulating 😂
The ironic thing is that watching youtube videos also release short term dopamine. This is why you got easily addicted to youtube, instagram, or any social media that reward anyone with short time investment. Why go to the Gym or Working on a project if you can get the same reward with 5 minute investment ?
I cook and bake. I'm especially good with sauces and devil's food cake with chocolate icing. 😊
Ok but what if you get dopamine from basically everything even without phones or socializing 😂
Sounds like she's suggesting you should train yourself to enjoy pain , so to forget about pleasure .
Furthermore , refraining for 30 days for an addict , will only excel irate their destructive behavior , once they return to active addiction .
SHE SHOULD KNOW THAT !
A slave in the video has the body parts required to speak?
I wish people would heed this when they enter cinemas, by turning off their phones, instead of flashing around their bright screens while the rest of us are trying to watch a movie.
Can you blame us, we have to sit through half an hour worth of boring adverts before we even get to the film
TY.
Techbro discovers the value of disconnecting and going outside
We(most of us) are social creatures.
so People people people. Find the right types of people for you to socialise/ hangout with. It’s simple as that.
Irony that all this is communicated on social media via mobiles.
I think this all the time on these type of videos
Social media and mobile devices are fictional things…
What if exercising gives me dopamine release? Should i stop exercising? When i am bored, i exercise and i can go on for about 2 hours easily.
After every release of dopamine (peak), the dopamine level falls below the baseline (depletion phase), which makes you search for the next release of dopamine. The higher the peak, the lower the fall, the more urgent the need for the next dopamine source. If unbalanced, this leads to addictions and later to depression or burn-outs.
"Good" sources of dopamine are: music, physical exercise, exposure to cold (ice bath), meeting friends, reading (?), ... because they slowly release dopamine and you have to earn it.
"Bad" sources are: processed food (sugary, fatty), pornography, drugs (alcohol), screen time (UA-cam), ... because they create fast and high peaks and you don't earn them (--> thus you don't deserve them!).
The level of stimulating graphics in this video is interesting
There's a video? I probably won't watch it. I'm already wearing headphones with Music playing from my playlists. I mostly just mess around on UA-cam. I like reading what others think the best.
I have anhedonia. My entire life has been one big dopamine fast.
Dopamine fasting sounds like life in the 1980s
that is why they had so many kids
Plenty of addictive video game consoles and arcades in the 80s. Heck, TV was was much better then too. Flashy Neon lighting was popular. Music and vinyl was in full swing. I'd say, you'd need to go a few decades further for better dopamine regulation.
I bet this applies to buying using credit versus saving then paying cash. (Having the pain first)
Slaves dont buy things. Did someone told you slaves buy/sell?
Read Thoreau's Walden (again) 😀
I wonder how this would work for people with dopamine dysregulation issues, such as those with ADHD.
Pay up front. I like that
What you are doing now, I have been practicing this fasting for more than 4 years. Best of luck.
The video editing kind of proves the point...
Meditate, journal, drink, walk, and think
this video is so stimulating lol
Just for a bit of perspective on how electronics effect people, i am in the middle between 2 groups of people.
1. The typical, college age student in modern society. Uses their phone a lot.
2. A friend group which is primarily religious, uses their phones far less often times not at all in any social situations.
I have noticed the second group is consistently happier, and more outgoing specifically because they rarely have that kind of stimulation.
We could all benifit from a significant reduction or compete elimination of idle dopamine.
Dopamine is meant to make us strive for more of whatever is releasing it. Why should we do an activity that only continues to release more dopamine, but only wastes time and gets you nowhere?
i am dopamine STARVING !!!
Nice! I have a lot of healthy habits, but do like to use my phone and laptop a bit too much. I'm not sure I can reduce that much more though, because these are also my tools of acquiring new information and following my interests. I do exercise a lot, trying to eat healthy (and less food recently), go for long walks by myself and with friends... I gave up on pornography recently, after many many years of consuming it every day. It was somewhat easy, I just stopped it at once, like of done with other things before. I'm somehow able to not get too addicted to anything so far and I've tried many drugs out of curiosity. Guess I'm not the average case though...
Try to learn Vipassana meditation🧘♀️
Is the a 'dopamine fasting' supplement?
We used to call this unplugging. Silicon Valley doing its rebranding of things we've been doing forever.
I guess I don't have this problem. I don't have a "hangover" effect as I don't take drugs and avoid excess sugar.
Its fiction not a problem.
“All I’m allowed to do…”
ADHD here. I need more dopamine
Wow just about to post to same thing lol
His dopamine fasting sounds like the instruction for observing the Sabbath...
Delay reward by instilling a healthy habit instead of a short term fix.
Wow. A *lot* of unsubstantiated claims in this video.
Can I listen to music/ podcasts while fasting ?
Yes. I recommend Jackson Browne singing, "Doctor My Eyes". It's been my personal ear glue since about 3 weeks ago. I especially love the rhythm and the guitars and the drums. Oh, and, the lyrics, of course, about the evil and the good. 🙂
actually no, you are letting your brain rest, be devoid of stimulating things so it has time to rewire itself
If you want to do that, no, you can't. That's the point
I think life is very stressful and dangerous still, we don’t die without watering hole, but driving in traffic everyday is pretty bad, is it why we still need dopamine boost?
What is a “quarter” mentioned in this video?…….3 months??
Dopamine Nation Sarasvati the Godess of knowledge bless this book.Om Sai Ram.
You see this with people that constantly chase after new sexual partners and encounters. They seem to live more miserable and chaotic lives compared to monogamous people comfortable with just one partner for most of their lives.
Simple way do this ' Vipashyana ' one week program
その後何するかが大事。
半永久的に幸福にしてくれること
I ws once misdiagnosed with schizophrenia
In our line of work we call it a "Digital Detox". And yes, it works wonders! :)
If you actually want to benefit from this, you need to change your lifestyle. A temporary fast won't do anything unless you remove or significantly decrease your use of highly dopaminergic things (like social media, video games, drugs, etc) from your life in the long term.
That sounds a lot like prison
again I am from Madhuka Software Developments , a nonfrofit organization In sri lanka .
I talked about Our COVID 19 recovery plan in my earlier speaches as well and It was a wake up call for all of us to rethink . Now that world community has realized this that science based policy is the corner stone of progress and sustainable development , we have to do something with the collaboration of international community in this regard , me thinks . When It comes to biodiversity and eco-system or climate change or climate risks , How is litigation being used to pressure countris and cooperations into action ?
Today we are living in a war like situation , the world is oscillating in between science and nescience , so let us get together , united .