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  • Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
  • Sony just mandated PSN account linking for Helldivers 2 the other day, and since then the community has been in an uproar. We went over an article from Paul Tassi covering the breaking news and also gave our thoughts.
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  • @juggalo_kronikturdzgaming7075
    @juggalo_kronikturdzgaming7075 Місяць тому +720

    Cross: "I believe we are still part of the helldivers community".
    Me: still waiting on the next installment of "This Week In Democracy"

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 Місяць тому +6

      Fr.

    • @marty_mcfly_jr
      @marty_mcfly_jr Місяць тому +16

      right. it's because it's a flash in the pan game because he was bored and needed content because destiny didn't.

    • @loopygordo
      @loopygordo Місяць тому +28

      ​@@marty_mcfly_jr helldives maintains an incredible player count. Its not a flash in the pan game lmao.

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 Місяць тому +7

      @@loopygordo unfortunately, that could change soon with this news

    • @Jonononon
      @Jonononon Місяць тому +4

      @@marty_mcfly_jr it has more players than destiny. Double the count even sometimes

  • @tannerhighley5782
    @tannerhighley5782 Місяць тому +488

    Sony watched BattleState Games (creators of Tarkov) piss off their entire community within a day and said “bet we can do it faster.”

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому +12

      Not even remotely similar. Paywalling exclusive features behind hundreds of dollars compared with asking people to sign up to something as part of a $40 dollar game. One is annoying the other is egregious greed.

    • @kogden8110
      @kogden8110 Місяць тому +26

      @@robfit’s not just “annoying” for the people who can’t create PSN accounts in their country and thus can’t play the game they payed for. At least the Tarkov expansion is optional.
      Edit: and it is about greed. Sony wants this because it lets them take a higher percentage of revenue from purchases on steam, and they can sell the data from those making an account for a profit.

    • @Terrince_Tate
      @Terrince_Tate Місяць тому +3

      The problem is that players are being FORCED to create an account to play a game that isn't on Sony's platform. No other PS game has this requirement.
      This tactic doesn't benefit PC players in any way whatsoever. F! Sony!

    • @123TheCloop
      @123TheCloop Місяць тому

      @@robf they have been caught changing there own ToS after the fact because they got corrected on twitter with proof (webarchive dont lie) they rug pulled and F'd over like 60 countries because they ILLEGALLY sold a product they knew they couldnt support with PSN being a non option in those countries oh and Sony breaching GDPR rules by forcing us to link a PSN account with steam to access an online service that was already granted so by there own admission of waivering the requirement for 3 months they open themselves up to the EU on a GDPR fine which isnt cheap and EU take that VERY seriously.
      Sony can shove it on this move if they think im linking my PSN to steam they can F off

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому

      @@kogden8110 You are misinformed. Irrespective of your location you can create a PSN account. There is nothing stopping anyone from playing the game they paid for. The issue was for some regions you'd have to select a country that didn't match your location and could technically be in violation of TnCs. Sure harvesting email address on a forty buck game is the same as trying to charge $250 for exclusive PvE content. 👍

  • @andrewphillips1152
    @andrewphillips1152 Місяць тому +345

    Hit Sony with that ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

  • @samvimes9510
    @samvimes9510 Місяць тому +256

    PSN is unavailable in 118 countries, including the Baltic states...who just so happen to be members of the EU. The only alternative is to use a VPN to create fake credentials, which is a direct violation of Sony's terms of service. America has horrible digital consumer rights, but the EU takes it VERY seriously. This could legitimately be grounds for legal action.
    EDIT: Steam has now delisted Helldivers in over 100 countries and is approving refunds regardless of playtime. This is directly impacting Sony's wallet now.

    • @beltfedfanatic
      @beltfedfanatic Місяць тому +9

      the main reason i changed my review to negative.
      that sony has data breaches so often that you can practically set your watch to it is another one entirely.
      if not for those 2 reasons. this would not be so bad but here we are.

    • @bigt4135
      @bigt4135 Місяць тому +1

      Don’t live there.

    • @Legion-495
      @Legion-495 Місяць тому +2

      They now removed purchase options in such countries... uff

    • @prestoncreighton
      @prestoncreighton Місяць тому +1

      F*** it I might refund it even though I play on ps

    • @scumbag6175
      @scumbag6175 Місяць тому

      can I refund it on PS Store? I’m not gonna be in U.S for couple months

  • @n3cr0he11
    @n3cr0he11 Місяць тому +408

    Helldivers 2 devs tell the community to review bomb the game ... One of their strategies to pressure Sony

    • @FcoEnriquePerez
      @FcoEnriquePerez Місяць тому +44

      Not a Dev, a community manager, who's not so great at his job anyway. Could even cost him his job.

    • @SealFormulaMaster
      @SealFormulaMaster Місяць тому +52

      @@FcoEnriquePerez I'm pretty sure the CEO is okay with that strat. As for costing him his job... I think his job will likely be safe at Arrowhead, at least until his contract is up. Then he'll likely have a harder time finding a new position.

    • @endborg90
      @endborg90 Місяць тому +16

      "To ban players"
      "This decision would help us ban players"
      2 of the community moderators that have both been employed by arrowhead since the first helldivers said this. Can people please stop cutting companies slack and just blaming higher ups all the time

    • @AnotherAyushRaj
      @AnotherAyushRaj Місяць тому

      Yea even the CEO doesnt seem okay with this decision of account linkling

    • @Eckythump
      @Eckythump Місяць тому +3

      He also said stop playing it. If players really want change they should heed that. looking at Steam DB, there has only been a dip of 5k players at peak since the announcement. Given the downward trend happening even prior to the account linking debaucle, that 5k drop could just be natural attrition and not due to the backlash. Players love to complain, but can't seem to put the game down. Mixed messaging.

  • @GhostoftheTenthEye
    @GhostoftheTenthEye Місяць тому +605

    if they end up requireing me to have a psn account for destiny thatll be the nail in the coffin for me. im not gonna be apart of their next yearly data breach

    • @deathshop2172
      @deathshop2172 Місяць тому +48

      I know right?
      If it's the "data breach of the century" why the hell does it happen every other week?

    • @bacon_208
      @bacon_208 Місяць тому +36

      destiny 2 unlike helldivers 2 is on xbox, there's probably something in place to prevent that from happening

    • @Daemonic6
      @Daemonic6 Місяць тому +3

      You know if they will take over cheaters, ximmers on a daily basis, i'll be fine)

    • @SonAmyFan1012
      @SonAmyFan1012 Місяць тому

      @@bacon_208 My guy, Sea of thieves on PS recquires a microsoft account.

    • @echoesofmalachor3700
      @echoesofmalachor3700 Місяць тому

      Not just credential data breaches anymore either. Sony is pushing one of the most insanely intrusive anti cheats in all of gaming. So the future data breaches could compromise a metric ton of user data for each individual account. Sony is downright dangerous for its customers and their data.

  • @prettysoIdier
    @prettysoIdier Місяць тому +154

    I miss offline mode games.

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 Місяць тому +1

      FACTS

    • @KodexKat
      @KodexKat Місяць тому +12

      They still exist. You just don’t play them by choice

    • @flymasterkyle1277
      @flymasterkyle1277 Місяць тому +6

      @@KodexKatyou should be able to play this without PSPlus by just playing offline

    • @muovikallo
      @muovikallo Місяць тому +3

      then play them bro

    • @KodexKat
      @KodexKat Місяць тому

      @@flymasterkyle1277 it’s not a free game. Only free games don’t require ps plus for online.

  • @SealFormulaMaster
    @SealFormulaMaster Місяць тому +53

    Hell has come for the Divers. We now fight a war on three fronts. Automatons, Terminids, and Sony. To my fellow Divers to the East, fighting those dirt crawlers relentlessly, please head South. To my fellow Divers to the West, fighting those loveless bots in the name of Malevelon Creek, please head South. We must now dive not just for Democracy, but for Survival. Pick up your TD-15 Reviewer, head over to the game page, and leave a negative review, or change your review to negative. This new foe is powerful, but with the combined power of Brasch Tactics and Pilestedt Benevolence, we have a chance. We may fall, Democracy taken away, but we may stand victorious. It all depends on how this newest Major Order goes.

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 Місяць тому +3

      PC brainrot

    • @pawlus2786
      @pawlus2786 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@bognareff7991 womp womp

    • @trinityprentice8221
      @trinityprentice8221 Місяць тому +6

      Its not pc brain its called standing up for yourself and telling an awful Corporation to go to hell

    • @trinityprentice8221
      @trinityprentice8221 Місяць тому

      Your just a pushover that won't survive in the real world

    • @SealFormulaMaster
      @SealFormulaMaster Місяць тому

      @@bognareff7991 Keep brown nosing soyboy. Because unlike you, I'm standing for something.
      Also, aren't you a little young to be playing Helldivers? Who the hell says "brainrot" other than 13 year olds? Pretty sure you need to be at least 17. So, go back to watching sky kiddie toilet or whatever it's called.

  • @GloverGaming3
    @GloverGaming3 Місяць тому +63

    And then Sony will come and blame Arrowhead that Helldivers population numbers tanked, and take 0% of the blame for their actions causing it

    • @gentlemanbronco3246
      @gentlemanbronco3246 Місяць тому +3

      I can definitely see this happening. Bethesda did it to Obsidian with Fallout New Vegas.

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 Місяць тому +2

      lmfao watching y'all be this upset is hilarious to me. the game is mid. the devs are shitheads. this was inevitable.

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 Місяць тому +1

      @sonnyankau9239 so, why did you click on the video if you hate the game so much? I haven't even played the game. I'm just talking about how Capitalism works. The people at the top come up with bad ideas, and it's the people at the bottom who take the fall for them

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 Місяць тому +1

      @@GloverGaming3 so i could revel in the suffering of people who love it

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 Місяць тому

      @@sonnyankau9239 Sorry, you're not going to get a lot of revelry from me. I do like the game, and I've thought about trying it, but as a dad to young kids, I don't get a lot of gaming time, and I have enough to do just playing Destiny

  • @doc6162
    @doc6162 Місяць тому +197

    sony being sony, forcing devs to take the brunt of their greedy decisions

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 Місяць тому +7

      Real this is why spider mam 2 sucked ass

    • @MyNameisVyke
      @MyNameisVyke Місяць тому +11

      ​@@thiagoarxalmeida606Spiderman 2 was good wtf are you talking about 😭

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 Місяць тому +2

      @@MyNameisVyke bugs every where rushed game development no option to switch time of day 💀

    • @cl4-tpgaming
      @cl4-tpgaming Місяць тому

      @@thiagoarxalmeida606your crazy, it ran great at launch and if your end all be all is the ability to change the time of day… I don’t know how to converse with someone so braindead

    • @okipullup..
      @okipullup.. Місяць тому +1

      Nobody is forcing anything 💀 the average consumer just doesn’t know that this was a top down choice

  • @TsuriaDragon
    @TsuriaDragon Місяць тому +129

    Cross say he’s part of Democracy but gave up the fight months ago 😭😭😭😭

    • @coinisinorbit
      @coinisinorbit Місяць тому +11

      He's on a mandatory vacation, super earth mandate

    • @punchykarma6685
      @punchykarma6685 Місяць тому +13

      He'll be back. He's currently fighting a different intergalactic war of light vs dark.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Місяць тому +1

      No content

    • @TellThemTheManInBlackSentU
      @TellThemTheManInBlackSentU Місяць тому

      ^ what they said

    • @KineticKitty31
      @KineticKitty31 Місяць тому +5

      @@chillhour6155 Evidently incorrect - there's been new enemies, new missions, new warbonds and new lore pretty much every other week.
      Objectively more content than Destiny, subjectively better/more exciting content than Destiny

  • @brainlesscactus3184
    @brainlesscactus3184 Місяць тому +19

    People saying its not a big issue because they are from a country that isn't concerned by the change :
    1. You are still required to put your personal information in a service that is known to be unreliable and frequently hacked, which has had massive banking data leaks in the past
    2. The concept of Helldivers 2 is literally hurt by the game not being widely accessible. Yes you will still be able to play it if you live in the US or in most european countries, but every single defense campaign and conquest of new automaton and terminid systems is gonna be harder because we will miss DOZENS OF THOUSANDS of players that cannot play the game

    • @FatherRacc
      @FatherRacc Місяць тому

      Yeah, honestly the saddest part about all of this is all the divers we’re gonna lose because of this bullshit.

  • @inoob26
    @inoob26 Місяць тому +66

    and people have the balls to tell me "always online" wont have any issues down the line

  • @rabbadoodles4522
    @rabbadoodles4522 Місяць тому +63

    Sony trying not to ruin gaming: level impossible

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 Місяць тому +2

      PC brainrot

    • @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories
      @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories Місяць тому +2

      And we’ve only reached Tier 1 level of impossible! They still have three other tiers to go through.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@bognareff7991doesn't Pay attention to Spiderman 2, calls the kettle black

    • @Lorentz_Driver
      @Lorentz_Driver Місяць тому +1

      lmao they are one of the lesser scandalous ones

  • @deathshop2172
    @deathshop2172 Місяць тому +76

    The more worrying thing is that this could be a prelude to them trying to enforce PS+ on PC gamers.

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin Місяць тому +19

      Exactly! It's Sony. They totally would!

    • @cl4-tpgaming
      @cl4-tpgaming Місяць тому +5

      @@kurtisdeakinya, because Microsoft isn’t greedy either😂 you do realize ALL these companies are the same right, not a single one of them cares more about you than the other. I guess at least Sony still makes good games😂

    • @Deltadog55
      @Deltadog55 Місяць тому +11

      Biggest mistake was putting basic multi-player behind a Paywall. That is singlehandedly one of the stupidest decisions I have ever seen both Sony and Microsoft make. Glad Steam hasn't followed suit.

    • @TheIndulgers
      @TheIndulgers Місяць тому +35

      @@cl4-tpgaming He didn’t mention Microsoft. Obviously MS is bad. They tried the same thing over a decade ago.
      But trying to defend Sony by shifting blame to MS, your fanboyism is showing.

    • @KillaManReaper2
      @KillaManReaper2 Місяць тому +7

      ​@cl4-tpgaming This isn't even about Microsoft or any other video game companies. This is about Sony. Take your Adderall and stay on track buddy.

  • @preacher8213
    @preacher8213 Місяць тому +29

    Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Disrespect the playerbase, they will disrespect you.

  • @meVladowski
    @meVladowski Місяць тому +9

    Literally last year on May 1st War Thunder was review bombed the hell out of. This action forced War Thunder devs to actually make good changes to the game.

    • @prafullathakur8973
      @prafullathakur8973 Місяць тому +2

      Upvote the shit outta this. If it worked for gajin to fix the state of warthunder then we gotta do the same here.

  • @Woeden
    @Woeden Місяць тому +10

    It was all so perfect, then Sony kicked Arrowhead in the balls

  • @thiagoarxalmeida606
    @thiagoarxalmeida606 Місяць тому +28

    It’s always the damn higher ups

    • @gargathulothhastur4981
      @gargathulothhastur4981 Місяць тому

      Not always. Bungo is proof.

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 Місяць тому

      @@gargathulothhastur4981 bingo is proof that their higher ups sucks be fr did u think the devs wanted to fire them selves

    • @that1ragingbat_603
      @that1ragingbat_603 Місяць тому

      @@gargathulothhastur4981 You mean the higher ups in Bungie? The ones who made all the decisions that have caused issues for the company?

  • @GodofWarChuka
    @GodofWarChuka Місяць тому +22

    Other then Destiny 2 and Outriders I think I’m done investing my time and money on the online with servers type games. I’m mainly sticking with single player type games where you’ll never lose your stuff and everything is saved on hard drive. Like the Borderlands games. It sucked watching Destiny 1 die.

    • @andy.jehoshaphat
      @andy.jehoshaphat Місяць тому +7

      Destiny 1 didn't die. There are still people who play.

    • @GodofWarChuka
      @GodofWarChuka Місяць тому +6

      @@andy.jehoshaphat I logged into Destiny 1 not to long ago. I couldn’t get into a PvP game. I did some strikes with matchmaking. It was extremely weird with no FOV and 30 FPS. It’s not dead, but it’s painful to play after being used to D2.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Місяць тому +1

      Epic Games lost my 70 hour's Remnant account I mostly played solo, these launchers are a curse either way

    • @thatoneguy2136
      @thatoneguy2136 Місяць тому +1

      Destiny is the only Live Service game that I play, I’ve never been interested in playing another cuz of how time consuming they are. Always been a single player, player since ps1 and will stay like that for ever. Single player (offline) games’ where it’s at

  • @arshdeepsandhu
    @arshdeepsandhu Місяць тому +6

    Sony removed the game on steam from countries that can't make a PSN account. Well now we know they won't be backtracking this.

  • @aganaom1712
    @aganaom1712 Місяць тому +41

    The tldr is that a corporation (most likely sony) is forcing players to link a psn account to their helldivers profile. This change also occured when sony made changes to their EULA regarding their games on steam. This means that players in regions that cant make a psn account at all due to restrictions there will effectively be banned from playing the game they already paid money for without ever being able to do the things they need to be allowed to keep playing the game
    This is considered fraud in multiple countries and additionally can also be considered a customer rights, tos and breach of contract violation by sony at the international level.
    Meaning there is currently grounds for Sony to be sued by over 200,000 individuals at a minimum across 30+ countries for a rough estimate of hundreds of billions of dollars and lawyers from across the world have already begun preparing to file suits

    • @allison4350
      @allison4350 Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for explaining, I was having trouble understanding why it’s such a big deal, I know lots of games ask you to make an account on login

    • @mattf8779
      @mattf8779 Місяць тому +6

      The change didn't occur when Sony made the EULA change because there was no change. From the moment preorders where announced it was made clear that you would need a PSN account to play the game. If you bought it on Steam day 1 you needed to make one. The issue was that the launch of Helldivers was awful and one of the problems was trying to link your PSN account crashed the game. So they disabled the requirement while stating that it was a temporary disable. Players just either ignored it or missed it but that isn't on Sony or Arrowhead that is on gamers not actually paying attention.
      The only legit thing to call Sony/Arrowhead out on is selling the game to areas that wouldn't be able to play it, that is scummy. But there was no changing of the requirements.

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому

      @@mattf8779 I assume in territories without legal access to a PSN account it will just allow you skip registration. In fairness they ought to have foreseen trying to implement it at a later date would upset some section of the player base. They should have offered some crazy weapon as a sign up incentive, ppl still would have been mad because it's the internet but less mad I guess. If there are any benefits to requiring registration for banning players they should have set up an 'international' sign up for everyone not in an existing territory prior to launch, poor implementation and communication on this front.

  • @torvasdh
    @torvasdh Місяць тому +49

    HD2 devs are great, but their CM are literally reddit mods. (like, actually. Used to be reddit mods in HD1)
    The people making the game genuinely care, but the people acting as the face are just crazy.

    • @ShaoShaoMienshao
      @ShaoShaoMienshao Місяць тому +1

      I mean... Spitz is out of line, but he's right.

    • @ASpaceOstrich
      @ASpaceOstrich Місяць тому

      @@ShaoShaoMienshao Mm. Spitz has done nothing wrong. The helldivers community are fucking awful people. The man had to destroy the community discord server he'd made into one of the best servers on the planet because Gamers tm were spamming gore and CP in it. If the helldivers community weren't such terrible people they wouldn't keep getting treated like it.

    • @Resonosity
      @Resonosity Місяць тому +3

      Cozmo used to be a reddit mod for Destiny. I don't really think it's fair to make blatant assumptions about people based on a type of class they fall under. V prejudicial

  • @BewareTheMonster218
    @BewareTheMonster218 Місяць тому +2

    I remember coming home, popping in a disc and being able to chill and play games with zero downloading/copying every other day.

  • @littleman7386
    @littleman7386 Місяць тому +3

    Most I’ve been able to do is make my review negative as my refund request has been denied due to the whole more than 2 weeks and 2 hours policy. Feels bad man

    • @Airtroops83
      @Airtroops83 Місяць тому +1

      keep sending them until you get it, every request is one more match on the fire. Valve will get further involved soon, bet on it.

  • @AtomicPuma9
    @AtomicPuma9 Місяць тому +2

    It’s crazy that the whole Escape From Tarkov fiasco is happening and then this happens. What has happened to these upper management at BSG and Sony… both are burning bridges.

  • @Pants207
    @Pants207 Місяць тому +2

    Sony just put out a tweet that they changed their mind on the account linking.

  • @SB35702
    @SB35702 Місяць тому +2

    They dont realize it but theyve been training a group of internet entities to all focus on a singular goal. Everyone forgot the billion bugs we killed in 24 hours, thats a million reviews in less time.

  • @zakrunooingorah4221
    @zakrunooingorah4221 Місяць тому +10

    Average Sony L

  • @lumina6123
    @lumina6123 Місяць тому +17

    I may have gotten bored and tired of Helldivers, but Arrowhead stays taking massive Ws. Sony on the other hand.. Classic Sony, ruining a great game and tarnishing a game studio’s reputation. Good to see Arrowhead fighting back.

  • @AnotherAyushRaj
    @AnotherAyushRaj Місяць тому

    Mr. Editor please tell me what was the music in the outro. Sounds very fimiliar

  • @chewbaccagamer9201
    @chewbaccagamer9201 Місяць тому +2

    From PlayStation official X account
    Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.
    We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans.

    • @jeremywildrick-cole8373
      @jeremywildrick-cole8373 Місяць тому

      “We’re still learning what’s best for PC” translated = we stepped in shit trying while trying how squeeze the most corporate benefit from you playing this game.

  • @mr_ekshun
    @mr_ekshun Місяць тому +4

    I hate that it's always the people who made a fantastic game who are going to get hurt the most, not the brickheads making the decisions (and taking the $$$)

  • @ivan_domangaming9359
    @ivan_domangaming9359 Місяць тому +14

    Looks like there's new information about this controversy, just the countries were PSN is available will need their account to play, the ones that don't have access won't need it
    Edit: the game is no longer available to purchase in countries that don't have psn

    • @terrynichols4509
      @terrynichols4509 Місяць тому +3

      If this is true then the only complaint I had about this account link is gone

  • @JamesCartermusic
    @JamesCartermusic Місяць тому

    I'm part of the my countries military too Cross. I just don't show up to any drill trainings and my arm or leg is conveniently fractured around any deployment period.

  • @thebtm
    @thebtm Місяць тому +2

    A quote from another video I watched "You don't mess with a player base that killed 2 billion bugs in 12 hours". And I feel it explains it all. I'm a Destiny 2 player much sure I've switched games to HD2 but now I'm unsure.

  • @sirrickardjameses
    @sirrickardjameses Місяць тому +12

    The devs told the to review bomb it so they had more ammo when they talked to sony

  • @linopontes
    @linopontes Місяць тому +7

    That Spitz CM changed his tune didn't he?! 1st had a go at the community which only made the situation worse. The backlash changed his tune, to blame SONY.

    • @urazz7739
      @urazz7739 Місяць тому +3

      Which is the truth I imagine because the game was running fine without this until now.

  • @Smurf5738
    @Smurf5738 Місяць тому

    Isn't changing the words in a user agreement after it was already signed a form of fraud? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @stormwolve1685
    @stormwolve1685 Місяць тому

    that shit is on electronic arts like level the only thing that could help more would be if devs put a message in the game so even the players who still buy games blindly and don't have social media accounts know what's going on

  • @thelittlecube1256
    @thelittlecube1256 Місяць тому +27

    If you live in a place where PSN is not supported I cannot stress this enough as Aztecross didn't mention it.
    DO NOT CHANGE THE LOCATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT!
    That is a clear violation of Sony's EULA which terminates your account. This also will lock down the steam account that you linked to Sony.

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому +1

      And it's not necessary.

  • @pimpshiza
    @pimpshiza Місяць тому +7

    Sony is well known for old-world samurai business tactics and idiotic fuckery like this.
    I highly doubt they'll walk this back.

  • @7472wayne
    @7472wayne Місяць тому

    Based on that will they be required to play PS+?

  • @Chippy569
    @Chippy569 Місяць тому +2

    Arrowhead: hey let's make a game where the whole community has to work together to achieve major orders
    Gaming media: how did all these HD2 players come together to bomb the reviews?!

  • @GalenLeRaaz
    @GalenLeRaaz Місяць тому +5

    Apparently, Steam begun to roll out refunds, even with many hours on the account.

    • @N7ZaeedMassani
      @N7ZaeedMassani Місяць тому +3

      Denied my request twice, this seems false, only have 26hrs in the game too since launch

    • @MrInsiipid
      @MrInsiipid Місяць тому

      Highly doubt this. It's been advertised that this was a requirement from the very start, both in-game and on the store page. Steam won't be refunding for that reason.

    • @123TheCloop
      @123TheCloop Місяць тому +2

      @@N7ZaeedMassani you need to get a human support to look at it. automated ones generally dont do jack

    • @Serace.
      @Serace. Місяць тому

      @@N7ZaeedMassaniI think you have to contact support for it, if you use the normal feature it’s automatically denied if you have more than 2 hours iirc

  • @powermix24
    @powermix24 Місяць тому +36

    I have a PS account for 17 Years, I have a PS5 and I WILL NOT LINK my Helldivers 2 account to my PS5 or any Playstation exclusive PC Game.

    • @mommycakes5418
      @mommycakes5418 Місяць тому +11

      Womp womp

    • @KermitOfWar
      @KermitOfWar Місяць тому +7

      🎻

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому +1

      Sure you're not going too.

    • @powermix24
      @powermix24 Місяць тому

      @@robfI'm not, Sony just trying to use a great game to pull some numbers for share holders. Good luck with that.

    • @nope9096
      @nope9096 Місяць тому +3

      Cool?

  • @iaimfortheeyes
    @iaimfortheeyes Місяць тому

    I’m just curious what the conversation with spits looks like right now lol.

  • @Corndog-
    @Corndog- Місяць тому

    Spitz was talking to the D2 communtiy, not the Helldivers community when he said that steam reviews make a difference.

  • @lordshadowz58
    @lordshadowz58 Місяць тому +11

    all video games that are big have this. minecraft, sea of thieves, fortnite, apex legends, overwatch…
    AND DESTINY 2

  • @prettysoIdier
    @prettysoIdier Місяць тому +8

    It’s not the developers. It’s the publisher.

    • @FcoEnriquePerez
      @FcoEnriquePerez Місяць тому +1

      They definitely are the one pushing it, but Arrowhead is the one bending and letting this shit f their game.

    • @andredayton1424
      @andredayton1424 Місяць тому

      The devs actually deleted a bunch of discord messages that prove that they were approving the change

    • @EMO1tachi
      @EMO1tachi Місяць тому

      ​@@andredayton1424says you?

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 Місяць тому

      @@FcoEnriquePerez PC brainrot

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 Місяць тому

      @@andredayton1424 PC brainrot

  • @LegendaryGamer12345
    @LegendaryGamer12345 Місяць тому

    This is very similar to what happened with Google classrooms due to the Genshin 1st anniversary problem but this is actually on the initial game

  • @randomonlinename2941
    @randomonlinename2941 Місяць тому

    The biggest issue is the change of the terms of sale after the sale took place.
    For no reason

  • @mepevy
    @mepevy Місяць тому +3

    Maybe it’s due to Microsoft wanting to try and get it onto Xbox and this will absolutely rule that out if you need a psn account. 🤷‍♂️

    • @GustavoOliveira-yi7pj
      @GustavoOliveira-yi7pj Місяць тому +1

      Even if they do that, they wont take away the game from xbox platforms, only makr it worse for everyone playing + the more than 90 countries that dont have psn

  • @baneintherain
    @baneintherain Місяць тому +3

    Reviews might've tanked, but the game is still fantastically fun to play. This will all blow over soon enough.

  • @jonas_gustafsson
    @jonas_gustafsson Місяць тому +1

    And now they have moved back on the PSN requirement. 🎉

  • @Nvidia8706
    @Nvidia8706 Місяць тому

    Didn’t sony put a pause at the beginning to allow steam players to join because the linking was causing server delays, so they allowed pc players to bypass it. That doesn’t mean that it was gonna stay like that forever the psn linking was gonna happen one way or another

  • @bigchomp6892
    @bigchomp6892 Місяць тому +3

    And this is why Destiny will never die

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin Місяць тому +1

      Lmao yeah, right. Watch the point fly right over your head.

  • @DarkPyroZero
    @DarkPyroZero Місяць тому +4

    People really being crybabies over making a psn when people gotta make a Microsoft account to play Sea of Thieves on PS5 which no one bats an eye to

    • @TitusAndromadon
      @TitusAndromadon Місяць тому +1

      Sea of thieves isn't comparable at all in numbers to helldivers 2. It was also clearly communicated up front that you needed to do that. I have been gaming long enough to remember the psn network being down for months. I have had e credit cards have to be replaced due to data breaches of psn. That has never happened with my ms account nor ea.

    • @EclipseHighroller
      @EclipseHighroller Місяць тому

      @@TitusAndromadonexcept the psn requirement was there before launch. Not Sony, steam or arrowheads fault people can’t read. Dont buy a game if you can’t meet the requirements.

    • @danawr45
      @danawr45 Місяць тому

      Did Microsoft force you to link your PSN account to the Microsoft account?
      But not this shit sony literally force you to link your PSN account to your steam account just to play the game
      Log in just to play the game is okay but forcing people to link account is a whole different matter

  • @onebexey
    @onebexey Місяць тому +2

    Does it mean that they might enforce this on Bungie as well?

    • @camkingrea7773
      @camkingrea7773 Місяць тому

      They might honestly, but after this fiasco, hopefully Sony learns their lesson.

  • @mrfrenchfry6519
    @mrfrenchfry6519 Місяць тому +2

    Make a video on the other side of this now it’s being walked back. Doesn’t have to be a gush on Sony but even a hey sometimes they listen

  • @nazzradan7154
    @nazzradan7154 Місяць тому +3

    You need to play more helldivers, Cross!

  • @FcoEnriquePerez
    @FcoEnriquePerez Місяць тому +7

    Uninstall, change review and ask for refund! IM DOING MY PART.
    If we get it denied, I'm waiting to sing up that class action.
    And to whoever mfkr who thinks we should bend it, just because other's do it too, nah, f them too.

    • @MasterRyuuji
      @MasterRyuuji Місяць тому

      It’s too late for the refund tho

  • @Koookiez
    @Koookiez Місяць тому

    Cross will you try the BO3 Zombie mode Destiny map?

  • @tw1n5nak39
    @tw1n5nak39 Місяць тому

    I like that twist of events you described.
    Definitely would be fine with a Bungie like pivot that lets arrowhead put helldivers on a Xbox

  • @i_am_dementia9926
    @i_am_dementia9926 Місяць тому +3

    Moral of the story, PS games should remain exclusive lol we wouldn't have any issues of it was. MS forced us to make a MS account for minecraft (I lost my account so WOMP WOMP online), but no one batted an eye to it.

  • @theneoreaper6753
    @theneoreaper6753 Місяць тому +4

    Microsoft has been doing this exact samething for years now & yet nobody says anything. It's just PC karens being mad.

  • @catarznosa862
    @catarznosa862 Місяць тому

    When we will see you playing new Remnant 2 dlc?

  • @nilsmuller2314
    @nilsmuller2314 Місяць тому +1

    Maybe if Sony wouldn’t gatekeep most of there games that hadn’t been an issue because then the account had a use other than to pump up there statistics

  • @pyramidhead0420
    @pyramidhead0420 Місяць тому +3

    Lol. imgine using any site or app on the web and thinking Sony is somehow the one that breaks you data security.
    If your online and they want your info, they're getting it Sony account or not. People are so dumb for throwing temper tantrums

  • @danteinpuro319
    @danteinpuro319 Місяць тому +8

    People are just taking this shit way out of proportion

    • @cathef117
      @cathef117 Місяць тому

      Fr

    • @yourlocalhuman3526
      @yourlocalhuman3526 Місяць тому

      bro you need to do more research and less ignorance maxxing
      List of countries where people cant make PSN accounts:
      Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo (Congo-Kinshasa), Republic of the Congo (Congo-Brazzaville),Djibouti Dominica, Dominican Republic East Timor (Timor-Leste), Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Eswatini(Swaziland), Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nigeria, North Macedonia (formerly Macedonia), Palau, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Saint Kitts, Nevis Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent, Grenadines Samoa, San Marino, Sao, Tome, Principe Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Suriname

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin Місяць тому +1

      Oh! You're one of THOSE people.

  • @chrismcdougall8550
    @chrismcdougall8550 Місяць тому +2

    As of now countries where psn isn’t available are straight up blocked from even playing/buying the game. Even people who already own the game can’t launch it.

    • @robf
      @robf Місяць тому +1

      Nonsense.

  • @muhammadhaziqmohdsaiful9993
    @muhammadhaziqmohdsaiful9993 Місяць тому

    Dood, I'm not worried the "it's just an account" Problem, I'm worried that this is a starters for 1 day those multi billion company, would charge you subscription not matters what platform you play as long as it's their games 😅

  • @Blaquegold
    @Blaquegold Місяць тому

    To be fair so many other companies require what Sony is asking. This is nothing new. It sucks though but again this not new. The lack of transparency is inexcusable 100% for not letting people know from the beginning.

  • @swiggity97
    @swiggity97 Місяць тому

    Anyone ever notice how nice cross' eyebrows are? XD

  • @MrToasty569
    @MrToasty569 Місяць тому

    I don’t really know how that psn account works I don’t really use my ps5 a lot but I mean can’t you just make an account online you don’t have to have a ps5 right?

    • @Joseph-xg9sm
      @Joseph-xg9sm Місяць тому

      The issue is that they are going to require you to have a psn account to play, but in a lot of countries you can’t create a psn account. They knowingly sold the game in those countries even though they knew they would be unable to play at some point

  • @WarauTR
    @WarauTR Місяць тому

    Players have said Sony is known to have information leaks, also a reason why people don't want to link their STEAM account.

  • @Rynobii
    @Rynobii Місяць тому

    Sorry guys, Destiny2 will need you to link your psn account when the final shape releases

  • @nokturn882
    @nokturn882 Місяць тому

    Well this was always the case, linking the steam account to the psn. In addition, look at the real reasons why Sony is requiring this. They need to be able to protect players. Even arrowhead said it themselves.

  • @_SimpleJack_
    @_SimpleJack_ Місяць тому

    I hear Hungaria is lovely this time of year...

  • @ljlysong001
    @ljlysong001 Місяць тому

    Sony.. this could’ve been done so easily you could’ve have your cake and eat it too…
    Keep the game optional for PSN, but add bonus cosmetics and exp booster if/when you add your PSN account by a certain date. You could get your earning numbers and also make the playerbase happy.

  • @joeythomas5925
    @joeythomas5925 Місяць тому

    They already denied access to the countries already 2 hours ago on steam

  • @robf
    @robf Місяць тому +2

    It's ok now, crisis averted. Everyone's data on the internet is safe now.

  • @pvtcmyers87
    @pvtcmyers87 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the information I've added my 2 cents for managed democracy. :)

  • @vyrv6719
    @vyrv6719 Місяць тому +1

    I’m going to play the FUCK out of hd2. Right up until the psn requirement. Then we are all gonna let them watch their player base disappear until they fix it

  • @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch
    @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch Місяць тому

    i suppose if steam has say 2mil hd2 players, half of them sign up, it be an easy migration of 1mil onto the ps pc launcher, hypothetically.

  • @andrewlutes2048
    @andrewlutes2048 Місяць тому

    Terms of Service are absolutely disgusting agreements.

  • @penado8443
    @penado8443 Місяць тому

    Money this is why this is happening. Its always about sweet precious lewt when it comes to big companies/corporations. Its unfortunate and i hope AH can recover from this drama.

  • @SpartanVengeance
    @SpartanVengeance Місяць тому

    Some regions you have to buy a PlayStation console to create an account.

  • @akidajasper6545
    @akidajasper6545 Місяць тому

    I don’t get what people expected to happen.

  • @woundedhealer8575
    @woundedhealer8575 Місяць тому

    So basically AH just said “Hellbomb armed, clear the area”

  • @D4rk_R34lm
    @D4rk_R34lm Місяць тому

    The problem is this. I bought the game and have been able to play since. NOW Im being told I wont be allowed to play the game I bought and have been playing fine since, unless I make a 3rd party account

  • @florre5326
    @florre5326 Місяць тому

    The earnings call might be correct but how i see it they will use that look how well we have done lets do more psn exclusives so pc players dont get games but are forced to buy a ps4/5

  • @captduncan5936
    @captduncan5936 Місяць тому

    I live in Jamaica but technically i created my psn account with a usa address and it works fine but i have to buy psn money with us dollar eventhough we don't use USD , it's annoying but it works

  • @ciscy1786
    @ciscy1786 Місяць тому

    I mean I’ve had to make Microsoft accounts and other accounts just to play plenty of games. I don’t see why it’s an issue NOW. This been going on for years.

  • @interceptor4049
    @interceptor4049 Місяць тому

    It’s not crazy that we can come together for one bigger goal, that’s what we did in the game for hours all the time.

  • @Syrock1
    @Syrock1 Місяць тому

    This is what i was telling my mates last night.. 😂
    Its literally a numbers game and it looks great for sony when thier numbers are growing.

  • @KLGChaos
    @KLGChaos Місяць тому

    The issue isn't having to sign up. We do that a lot for other games up front. The issue is that it we paid for something, was told it was optional, and then a few months later get told we have to sign up or we lose access to the game. Worse for those in countries who don't have even have access to the game anymore. It feels like their money was stolen in a bait and switch.
    People are tired of not owning the games they pay for and, more importantly, hate feeling like they've been deceived.

  • @MR-zt1hh
    @MR-zt1hh Місяць тому +1

    They actually walked it back, and arent moving forward with it

  • @LuniNightwind
    @LuniNightwind Місяць тому

    What i have yet to see people ask is why was the game being sold to countries that can't make a PSN account?

  • @nilesrodriguez4343
    @nilesrodriguez4343 Місяць тому

    Last time I seen this was Cyberpunk, and look what happened to that game.