@Mr Jerry 1 or 2 people can drive the truck you can lock the rear axle and drive it like a regular truck trailer the rear steering is so you can maneuver in tight spaces and position the truck in industrial areas.
When I was a tillerman starting in the late 70s, we sat in the aerial, not behind it. The seat, windshield and steering wheel had to be cleared before you could stick the roof. When backing up I would turn to look over my right shoulder and steer with my left hand rarely switching hands. Better view in the aerial than the box. The box is nice because it keeps you dry and warm. Tillering is by far the most fun you can have driving apparatus.
I was a Captain on a tiller truck in the SF Bay Area. They are the best. I rode up front in the tractor as Captain but sometimes I’d ask my firefighter if I could trade spots and steer the rear end. Of course he/she would say yes. It is the best job in the fire department. Everyone is looking at you, kids and adults waving. You really can’t see much in the lane next to you on both sides and you follow the tractor so you don’t get a little sideways and smack into a car next to you. This big long truck will go in places we can barely get the standard engine company into. Being retired after 30 years I miss the hell out of it. Real fire departments have tiller truck companies! Seriously each department can use what they like but I’m a true supporter of tillers.
I used to think It was a fun cool job to be a Tillerman. But I was lucky enough to go to the fire academy, where they gave me the ends and out of it. There is NO room for error when they are going super fast to a fire !! This guy almost messed up at 15:24 . I wouldn't want this job. God bless the whole fire department and the brave men and women who do what they do ! 🤗 👏👏👏👏👏👏✌✌✌✌
@@EnjoyFirefighting Nope it won't . Your concept of auto steering ie: tillering is a very unreliable concept.I had done some looking into it and nothing you wrote on the so called virtues of it is valid.You seem to be the type that invested money or stock into some company that wants to sell the auto tillering and are on here trying to push it....sit down, recover your money and don't try to fix something that does not need fixing.
@@stevenkelly9731 I'm just a paramedic, so it's none of my business to try to sell automatic or, now getting populat, adaptive rear-wheel steering. It's around for so many years already, successfully. It doesn't need to be pushed, departments purchase it in great numbers ... tbh it's almost a standard on modern fire trucks. Down here in the south several departments purchased the identical rear-mount 105' Tower Ladder with all-wheel steering. Some departments also get Engines (to be correct: Rescue Engines) with all-wheel steering. And well automatic rear-wheel steering indeed is a standard on modern fire trucks with 3 or more axles. I know some few which don't have it, but that's really really rare here. Even the largest fire trucks here don't have a 2nd driver steering the rear. No matter if it's a gigantic Tanker or a massive Aerial I don't know if it's cost effective to pay several crew members 24-7 over years vs. purchasing a simple standard system once and maintaining it.
I've always wanted to try to drive a tiller truck. Been driving fire trucks for over 24 years and tractor trailer for 17 years I always thought to be cool to try out
WolfFace the fire brigade could order one but the shipping costs would be astronomical. A department I visited had a European telescoping ladder truck made custom for them. The price tag was $1.2 million (USD) and added costs of $3.4 million (USD) in shipping and insurance. There is only one ship at the time that could accommodate the shipping. They waited 2 and a half years form it to arrive from start to finish. Was in service for 4 years before they retired it due to maintenance costs. Broke an axle and it would be 6-8 months for large parts.
@@N2NDF not just shipping, but also maintenance with spare parts being on the other side of the pond; Even the fire and rescue services from the US Army in Germany has switched to European apparatus ... well concerning Aerials they've been using European ones for decades already, but they do the same with Engines and Tankers etc. In many places in Norway a Tiller wouldn't be relevant; Even in some of the large cities they went to more compact instead of even larger Aerials
yeah i know the standard firetrucks in Norway is scanias for the most part. and driving a Tiller in Norway would be a nightmare because of the tight streets and corners.
Yes just a test drive I replace the transmission no one showed me how to drive it just had to figure it out and for as much as that machine cost I was kind of nervous
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 did a pretty good job for having no training. You probably did better than most tiller men with 2 years on the job do. It just came natural to you I guess.
4:20 The POTS sign was a dead giveaway the video is reversed. How well can you see forward down each side? It seems tough to gauge the distances to the cars from there.
Although tillermen aren't supposed to have the door open during a response because of safety concerns, in most departments you will usually see the operator with the door open. The FDNY tillers most of the time do it because it gives more air flow and it gives the operator more arm room because the cab is pretty claustrophobic although there's 360° view windows.
Yes the yellow blinkers up in the control panel are turning indicators to let the tillermen know what way they are going to turn if the operator didn't hear the direction from the front cabin, the tillermen usually wear headsets so the two operators can constantly communicate with each other so the tillerman knows what they have to do minute by minute while driving.
Just a dumb question, and I'll bet you've answered this already. Did I see correctly that the wheel had to be turned opposite of what would be the normal direction? It would take me hella long to get used to it.
If you watch closely you will see he turns opposite briefly then turns the wheel like normal. It is so the vehicle does not cross lane dividers while turning reducing chance of an accident. Long vehicles like to cheat when it comes to the trailer.
Ever seen boeings special trucks where you are under the load in the back driving a mini truck with no engine no brakes and only 30 cm above the ground? That looks scary but also fun.
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Ok. Cheers.But I think E-One were the only manufactures who did the angled tiller cabs. They were first to introduce the concept. But others might have taken up the idea.
@@gordonkeane6298 I believe it is a CAL FIRE/Riverside County Fire Department Smeal Ladder Truck. This is one of 5 identical trucks. I believe they were built in 2008. They utilized the angled windows in the tiller cab for better visibility down the sides of the truck.
@@rickgriggs8987 Cheers for that info. I wasn't sure if others had adopted the angled design. Thus my question mark. It seems then, Smeal are the only other ones to do so.
Duties include once the driver set the PTO ( power take off) to change the power from engine to ladder power the tiller person helps puts the outriggers down, assist in ladder raising, getting tools ( saws and whatever roof tools needed for firefighting) gearing up ...ventilation of roofs ( smoke , gas and heat) cutoff power and gas ect...the list goes on.
Yes you have power steering. If the front, the tractor it’s called is turning right the tiller man turns his wheels left to keep the trailer wheels in the center of the lane then as the end gets right to the intersection you turn hard and fast right. The tractor driver( the front) can drive like he is in a sports car and that makes the tiller man have to work that steering wheel or the tractor driver can make more L shaped turns and the tiller man doesn’t have to do much work.
Good thing they didn't need to respond to an emergency while you were on board, all of the sudden their lights and sirens turn on and you are speeding down the road 😂😋
Driving the back of the tiller gives the saying backseat driver a whole new meaning. Sweet video and stay safe. Do you need a CDL to drive a tiller truck?
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Sorry, I'm still not understanding what the mirrored means. The video is going with the traffic, but on the wrong side of the road.
This one's a little older than the super tiller but I have drove in the squad Zilla out of LA County that one is big so you can fit two people in the tiller!
Tiller Ladders are awesome to look at for sure, but to be honest the steering with a 2nd driver seems outdated to me; There are automatic and adaptive rear-wheel steering available for both trailers and rigid trucks; No need to have a 2nd driver at the rear then
On Tillers they have two operators for one very important reason and it is SAFETY , those rigs move a very fast speed during a response so they need a rear wheel operator in order to steer through traffic without hitting anyone or anything. Having automatic mechanical steering on the tiller would be a really bad idea and extremely dangerous.
@@josephbennett3482 how is that an actual argument? I Mean it's not like our trucks would move slow through traffic. In heavy city traffic our full-size trucks respond at an average speed of 40 mph. "Having automatic mechanical steering on the tiller would be a really bad idea and extremely dangerous." ... that's what almost any Tower Ladder and other Aerial with more than 2 axles has here, and among the modern ones also many 2 axle trucks have adaptive rear-wheel steering. If it was such a bad idea and so extremly dangerous it wouldn't work safely for years. While we don't have any Tillers, many semi trucks have automatic rear-wheel steering on their trailers and it works as well, however they of course don't respond code 3. Maybe it would be time to go away from the Tiller Ladder layout? Whatfor actually? Maneuverability is a poor argument ... of course it's more maneuverable than a rigid 100' Tower Ladder in the USA, but when we compare one of our rigid trucks with a 105' rearmount Tower Ladder, then the turning radius is the same like on an American Tiller, but the American is still less maneuverable as the long structure wouldn't be able to turn into some tight streets
@@_bobjohnson1157 it's not really about replacing a job. It has never ever been a human job here. We have some of the largest Aerials here and none of them requires a 2nd driver at the rear. With the argument "keep it like it always was, it still works, why get something new/modern" you could as well go back to horses and their pump carts
SAFETY AND REALIBILTY...Remember those 2 keywords.This is a emergency response vehicle...not some FedEx truck SAFETY AND HUMAN INTERACTION that at times requires seconds in decision making. You mean you are going to rely on a micro chip to make that decision? No back up ? I hope not.
Does anyone notice that this video was copied from the original. Cause last I check signs weren’t spelled backwards and cars didn’t drive on the left side of the road in America.
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 so there's no speedometer back there? I would at least like to know how fast I would be going, I would have a phone mount back there for GPS speed at least if it were me.
Did anyone notice that all the traffic is driving on the left side of the road, instead of the right. When we passed a STOP sign, it was spelled backwards. Hence, the video was some how loaded reversed.
@@RandyCarpadus We see it working at the fire department in my country every day, actually, it works really well in the same way the trailers of trucks can have automatic rear-wheel steering that corresponds with what the driver of the vehicle does (and in trucks with a trailer that supports it, it usually is a set of wheels they can lower when entering a neighbourhood with smaller roads that would make taking a turn difficult, the wheels turn the "wrong" way as opposoed to the wheels of the truck).
@@RandyCarpadus The most common combination of trucks with trailer in my country (The Netherlands) are at the 61 feet mark, and some of the biggest autoladders in the biggest cities might be even slightly longer than that and they all have it and it's absolutely not a problem? (And the firefighting units I mentioned, just like the more common trucks+trailer combinations are not straight trucks, they are seperate.)
I believe these are mechanics road testing a new apparatus readying it for service and why is the danger decal backwards ? Print backwards on school bus . Upload oops ..
No need. Backing up is simply logical. It's retraining your senses. A little practice. Just remember, wherever the bottom of the steering wheel goes you go.
Is there any good explanation why they have someone in the back steering manually? I could never make sense out of it because. Hydraulic steering or no steering would also be possible. And way easier. No extra man required und the hydraulic steering could be controlled from the front if necessary.
It helps in cities with tight turns on to smaller streets. I would think it's not as stressful for the main driver to figure how to maneuver himself in those situations.
@@Ben942K that's what automatic or adaptive rear-wheel steering would be for as well. We don't have any Tillers in Europe and we have way tighter streets and turns in the historic city centers here; A Tiller wouldn't be able to reach my house for example
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@Mr Jerry 1% luck 99% skills!!!
@Mr Jerry It's like driving a forklift But you don't have a gas or a brake pedal🛑🚧🚦
@Mr Jerry Yes it is mirrored in selfie mode!🙃
@Mr Jerry 1 or 2 people can drive the truck you can lock the rear axle and drive it like a regular truck trailer the rear steering is so you can maneuver in tight spaces and position the truck in industrial areas.
@Mr Jerry It's like drifting and yes I was very nervous costs more than I make in a lifetime🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
When I was a tillerman starting in the late 70s, we sat in the aerial, not behind it. The seat, windshield and steering wheel had to be cleared before you could stick the roof. When backing up I would turn to look over my right shoulder and steer with my left hand rarely switching hands. Better view in the aerial than the box. The box is nice because it keeps you dry and warm. Tillering is by far the most fun you can have driving apparatus.
Whenever a tiller truck backs up *tiller drivers “I’m the captain now”
I was a Captain on a tiller truck in the SF Bay Area. They are the best. I rode up front in the tractor as Captain but sometimes I’d ask my firefighter if I could trade spots and steer the rear end. Of course he/she would say yes. It is the best job in the fire department. Everyone is looking at you, kids and adults waving. You really can’t see much in the lane next to you on both sides and you follow the tractor so you don’t get a little sideways and smack into a car next to you. This big long truck will go in places we can barely get the standard engine company into. Being retired after 30 years I miss the hell out of it. Real fire departments have tiller truck companies! Seriously each department can use what they like but I’m a true supporter of tillers.
Me too
Never gets old watching the guy in the back steer those
You did great. Opposite turn and start returning 1/2 way into the turn. Exactly how it's done.
I would say it needs the steering knob, way more mirrors, and a quiet replacement fan.
Great job!
It gives me OCD that the steering wheel isnt straight too ☠️
I wonder if the tillerman ever gets in his POV after a shift and steers the wrong way by accident
Yes
B Weid I never have
I switched to the front of the apparatus once on shift and just bout killed the garage door
@@justanotheraviator2357 whoops lol
Cool little gauge there showing the angle of the wheels for you
I used to think It was a fun cool job to be a Tillerman.
But I was lucky enough to go to the fire academy, where they gave me the ends and out of it.
There is NO room for error when they are going super fast to a fire !! This guy almost messed up at 15:24 .
I wouldn't want this job.
God bless the whole fire department and the brave men and women who do what they do !
🤗 👏👏👏👏👏👏✌✌✌✌
wouldn't it be time to replace a 2nd guy with automatic or adaptive rear-wheel steering? Would work on a rigid truck as well
@@EnjoyFirefighting Nope it won't . Your concept of auto steering ie: tillering is a very unreliable concept.I had done some looking into it and nothing you wrote on the so called virtues of it is valid.You seem to be the type that invested money or stock into some company that wants to sell the auto tillering and are on here trying to push it....sit down, recover your money and don't try to fix something that does not need fixing.
@@stevenkelly9731 I'm just a paramedic, so it's none of my business to try to sell automatic or, now getting populat, adaptive rear-wheel steering. It's around for so many years already, successfully. It doesn't need to be pushed, departments purchase it in great numbers ... tbh it's almost a standard on modern fire trucks. Down here in the south several departments purchased the identical rear-mount 105' Tower Ladder with all-wheel steering. Some departments also get Engines (to be correct: Rescue Engines) with all-wheel steering. And well automatic rear-wheel steering indeed is a standard on modern fire trucks with 3 or more axles. I know some few which don't have it, but that's really really rare here.
Even the largest fire trucks here don't have a 2nd driver steering the rear. No matter if it's a gigantic Tanker or a massive Aerial
I don't know if it's cost effective to pay several crew members 24-7 over years vs. purchasing a simple standard system once and maintaining it.
The steering wheel needs a turning knob on it would help alot
Yes it would but the liberals in California made it illegal!
That’s lame but cool video man keep it up!
Aaron's Adventures Why would they make it illegal?
Because the ball comes off sometimes and people lose control and you can't fix stupid
Aaron's Adventures Lol isn’t the ball there just for easier turning? How would someone loose control while turning 😂
This reminds me of when Kramer on Seinfeld was steering the back of one of these !
ITS OK CAP. KRAMER'S GOT THE CABOOSE
It's definitely American built! Rattles like a box of spanners down a staircase!
Hey now! We resemble that remark.
At least it goes down the road unlike vehicles of a different nationality.
Great job for no training. I wouldn't have the heart or money to drive that vehicle without proper training.
How do you know that there wasn't any training?
No training?? Are you kidding?
I've always wanted to try to drive a tiller truck. Been driving fire trucks for over 24 years and tractor trailer for 17 years I always thought to be cool to try out
It was fun it's kind of like drifting
Isn’t there actually supposed to be some form of communication between the driver and tillerman?
Yes but the communication system wasn't set up at the time we went for the test drive
Beeps button on the left side of the tiller cage...1 beep= stop, 2 beeps= forward,3 beeps= backup.
@@stevenkelly9731 Same as our old conductor & driver buses (UK)
Excellent job tillering..You do better than some FD veterans😄👍
wish we had these types of ladder trucks in Norway, they are so amazing to look at. By the way amazing video.
WolfFace the fire brigade could order one but the shipping costs would be astronomical. A department I visited had a European telescoping ladder truck made custom for them. The price tag was $1.2 million (USD) and added costs of $3.4 million (USD) in shipping and insurance. There is only one ship at the time that could accommodate the shipping. They waited 2 and a half years form it to arrive from start to finish. Was in service for 4 years before they retired it due to maintenance costs. Broke an axle and it would be 6-8 months for large parts.
@@N2NDF not just shipping, but also maintenance with spare parts being on the other side of the pond; Even the fire and rescue services from the US Army in Germany has switched to European apparatus ... well concerning Aerials they've been using European ones for decades already, but they do the same with Engines and Tankers etc.
In many places in Norway a Tiller wouldn't be relevant; Even in some of the large cities they went to more compact instead of even larger Aerials
yeah i know the standard firetrucks in Norway is scanias for the most part. and driving a Tiller in Norway would be a nightmare because of the tight streets and corners.
@@wolfface2526 tight comers and allyways are where tiller trucks come into play..
Too slow because of the tiller.
thank u4 the ride pops64 liberty ky
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That video is mirrored thats why it appears like he is in London!
Thanks! I was wondering that myself.
I was kinda confused by that lol
I could tell by the stop sign. Lol
Yea it took me a min to notice. Was messing with me
Why is it "mirrored"? How did it get that way?
Bet that squeaking was real fun to listen to!
Thanks for the road trip. That was fun.
Goes to use the horn at the end 😜 love it! Lol the commentary had me laughing.
We always used horn signals and had an intercom between drivers.
The intercom wasn't hooked up that day so we were just using the signals and a foot buzzer
Must be weird steering without a foot on the pedal or having breaks. I’d bring my little gaming pedals just for it.
Just a little!!
You not use headset for communication??? Still good job. Was it for mechanic checked up?
Yes just a test drive I replace the transmission no one showed me how to drive it just had to figure it out and for as much as that machine cost I was kind of nervous
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 did a pretty good job for having no training. You probably did better than most tiller men with 2 years on the job do. It just came natural to you I guess.
4:20 The POTS sign was a dead giveaway the video is reversed. How well can you see forward down each side? It seems tough to gauge the distances to the cars from there.
You cannot see very well but there are mirrors that help you Gauge where you are in the lane 😉
thanks for your video it was fun for us to from liberty ky robert
Wow man ty for sharing..never did see that before
NYC still has them, very impressive to see
Is that at Cummins in Ontario California???
No this is a Allison transmission shop!!!
No this is a Allison transmission shop!!!! Lol
You think those mirrors are there for decoration?
Oh no I was using those mirrors you have to constantly scan and correct that rear end It was a little bit of a rough ride! Lol
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Well, I meant while you were backing up, but that's ok.
Tillerman trucks are probably my favorite. How long have you been a tillerman for?
I am a transmission mechanic just doing a test drive
You would think for the price of these rigs they could put a better fan or maybe even a/c in the tiller compartment.
That's what I was thinking!😅
Although tillermen aren't supposed to have the door open during a response because of safety concerns, in most departments you will usually see the operator with the door open. The FDNY tillers most of the time do it because it gives more air flow and it gives the operator more arm room because the cab is pretty claustrophobic although there's 360° view windows.
Joseph Bennett Well explained. Thank you.
@@josephbennett3482 I kept my door open in hot weather.
Is that yellow blinking lamp just wired to the turn signal or is this some sort of other signal sent by the driver?
Yes the yellow blinkers up in the control panel are turning indicators to let the tillermen know what way they are going to turn if the operator didn't hear the direction from the front cabin, the tillermen usually wear headsets so the two operators can constantly communicate with each other so the tillerman knows what they have to do minute by minute while driving.
Can you lock the rear wheels straight on one of these & drive it like a normal tractor trailer? Or do you always have to have the second driver?
Yes you can lock out the trailer and drive normally.🤠👍
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Thanks. It does look like fun but probably not so much over a long distance. 👍
How hard is it to drive in the back of these?
Not hard at all 😊
Just a dumb question, and I'll bet you've answered this already. Did I see correctly that the wheel had to be turned opposite of what would be the normal direction? It would take me hella long to get used to it.
Yes
yea, they turn the opposite way so that they get a good turn and not take out a street light at a corner.. =D
If you watch closely you will see he turns opposite briefly then turns the wheel like normal. It is so the vehicle does not cross lane dividers while turning reducing chance of an accident. Long vehicles like to cheat when it comes to the trailer.
I'd be so nervous getting drug like that having to steer with no brakes
Ever seen boeings special trucks where you are under the load in the back driving a mini truck with no engine no brakes and only 30 cm above the ground? That looks scary but also fun.
They have brakes just like a conventional tractor trailer combination
Definitely in California (per various license plates shown in the video).
That's an E-One ladder truck with the angled tiller cab?
Not too sure about that
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Ok. Cheers.But I think E-One were the only manufactures who did the angled tiller cabs. They were first to introduce the concept. But others might have taken up the idea.
@@gordonkeane6298 I believe it is a CAL FIRE/Riverside County Fire Department Smeal Ladder Truck. This is one of 5 identical trucks. I believe they were built in 2008. They utilized the angled windows in the tiller cab for better visibility down the sides of the truck.
@@rickgriggs8987 Cheers for that info.
I wasn't sure if others had adopted the angled design. Thus my question mark.
It seems then, Smeal are the only other ones to do so.
How does the tillerman know where the cab driver intends to go?
We have an intercom system to communicate.
How do u drive from that angle
Skills
hes not driving, just steering the rear
What department?...
I also noticed an MTA bus and a LA fire engine as well
I believe it was Anaheim we do all of the Western States
Does it have power steering and you mostly turn the wheel the opposite side right?
Yes sir
Is there 2 people steering one at the frount and one at the back ?
Yes sir
Is that because it's to long of a vichacal ??
It is for faster maneuvering around corners and positioning and tight spaces
Yes Sir it so it can make quick turns and sharp ones that would normally cause you to flip Hong around quick and fast, tight spaces, positioning
No 20 people
What are the tillermans duties when on scene?
mcgherkinstudios Climb up my hook and ladder
I couldn't tell you cuz I'm not a Tillerman I'm a transmission mechanic?
I wear many hats around this place!
Duties include once the driver set the PTO ( power take off) to change the power from engine to ladder power the tiller person helps puts the outriggers down, assist in ladder raising, getting tools ( saws and whatever roof tools needed for firefighting) gearing up ...ventilation of roofs ( smoke , gas and heat) cutoff power and gas ect...the list goes on.
👍 Tiller next time!
See you on the back side!🤡
So you turn the back wheels in the opposite direction of the way you wanna turn? Do the back wheels turn when you steer? Does it have power steering?
Yes you turn the wheels the opposite way and it does have power steering👨🔧
Yes you have power steering. If the front, the tractor it’s called is turning right the tiller man turns his wheels left to keep the trailer wheels in the center of the lane then as the end gets right to the intersection you turn hard and fast right. The tractor driver( the front) can drive like he is in a sports car and that makes the tiller man have to work that steering wheel or the tractor driver can make more L shaped turns and the tiller man doesn’t have to do much work.
Couldn't of said it better myself!!!
Sometimes you need to steer in the same direction as the front to crab the whole unit in case you need to change lanes in a short space.
Good thing they didn't need to respond to an emergency while you were on board, all of the sudden their lights and sirens turn on and you are speeding down the road 😂😋
Hell sounds like a good time to me!
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 HEY! KRAMER!
Where was this?
Corona California USA
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 ahh my neighbors
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 is it a city/fleet maintenance yard?
No we are private contractors for Allison Transmissions
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 ahh
Driving the back of the tiller gives the saying backseat driver a whole new meaning. Sweet video and stay safe. Do you need a CDL to drive a tiller truck?
I would say... uhhh, YEAH!
It's a tractor-trailer!
You really need to know how to drive a semi to understand what you need to do!
@@GMan-yv8cb alright thanks for the information and also thanks for your service and stay safe and healthy.
Tillerman looks like he needs a good long bath and a visit to the barbershop.
Heli-Crew HGS he’s a mechanic
It's a dirty job working on the transmission I was a little more concerned about the machine working properly then my appearance!!!!
Aaron's Adventures That's a fair point.
What’s it like if the front of the truck breaks hard
It's like oh shit we're stopping!
How big are fire truck transmissions from a normal SUVs
Most SUVs have an automatic transmission or a 1K 2K these have a 3000 Transmission in it or an HD3560
Why is the truck driving on the left instead of the right
The video is mirrored I had the camera in selfie mode
Great job man
Are you driving on the opposite side of the road
No the camera is in selfie mode so it is mirroring everything🤓
Thank god for that fan
Is that LAFD?
We do service for all of the western states
Los Angeles fire department?
@@hischild6900 yeah
We do service on all fire apparatus
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 appears to be a Riverside County Fire Department Smeal Truck.
Where's this?
Corona California we fix it all at western states thanks for watching please like and subscribe 😀 👍
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 yeah sorry, caught me by surprised with the cars driving on left instead right hand side...
The video is mirrored in selfie mode that is why it is that way
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 that makes sense haha.
Los Angeles?
Riverside California
Are you driving on the left side of the road or is the video just mirrored
It's mirrored
Yes it mirrored
What does mirrored mean? I thought you were driving over sea's.
@@firetruckblack mirrored means when the image is backwards
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Sorry, I'm still not understanding what the mirrored means. The video is going with the traffic, but on the wrong side of the road.
Sometimes you have to turn left to go right
Gread job
That must have made you a little bit nervous
At first it did then it was just fun
Why did they use a chainsaw motor for the fan?
Isn't that just the most comforting sound!😖
我超好奇美國的大型雲梯消防車後面的駕駛室是用來做甚麼了是後車輪是給後面的人超做的嗎
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The purpose of the rear cab is for maneuverability around tight corners and positioning Thanks for watching!!!!🙃
is this the E-ONE super tiller?
It is E-ONE not sure if it is super tiller or not?
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 oh I'm just saying because those side windows for better view
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 ua-cam.com/video/m2gDNPpeyjs/v-deo.html
This one's a little older than the super tiller but I have drove in the squad Zilla out of LA County that one is big so you can fit two people in the tiller!
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 oh
Would a rear axel steer not be better instead if having sone one sitting there
What's the fun in that?
Good job man
Oh damn. It’s like a really really long forklift.
No
Aaron's Adventures .... do those back wheels turn? If so then yes lol.
I used to drive forklifts and it handles nothing like a forklift so no sorry to burst your bubble!lol
should have A/C
Tiller Ladders are awesome to look at for sure, but to be honest the steering with a 2nd driver seems outdated to me; There are automatic and adaptive rear-wheel steering available for both trailers and rigid trucks; No need to have a 2nd driver at the rear then
On Tillers they have two operators for one very important reason and it is SAFETY , those rigs move a very fast speed during a response so they need a rear wheel operator in order to steer through traffic without hitting anyone or anything. Having automatic mechanical steering on the tiller would be a really bad idea and extremely dangerous.
@@josephbennett3482 how is that an actual argument? I Mean it's not like our trucks would move slow through traffic. In heavy city traffic our full-size trucks respond at an average speed of 40 mph.
"Having automatic mechanical steering on the tiller would be a really bad idea and extremely dangerous." ... that's what almost any Tower Ladder and other Aerial with more than 2 axles has here, and among the modern ones also many 2 axle trucks have adaptive rear-wheel steering. If it was such a bad idea and so extremly dangerous it wouldn't work safely for years. While we don't have any Tillers, many semi trucks have automatic rear-wheel steering on their trailers and it works as well, however they of course don't respond code 3. Maybe it would be time to go away from the Tiller Ladder layout? Whatfor actually? Maneuverability is a poor argument ... of course it's more maneuverable than a rigid 100' Tower Ladder in the USA, but when we compare one of our rigid trucks with a 105' rearmount Tower Ladder, then the turning radius is the same like on an American Tiller, but the American is still less maneuverable as the long structure wouldn't be able to turn into some tight streets
What is the fascination with wanting to replace every single human job with a machine ? It drives me insane. Just. Let. It. Be Old school still works.
@@_bobjohnson1157 it's not really about replacing a job. It has never ever been a human job here. We have some of the largest Aerials here and none of them requires a 2nd driver at the rear.
With the argument "keep it like it always was, it still works, why get something new/modern" you could as well go back to horses and their pump carts
SAFETY AND REALIBILTY...Remember those 2 keywords.This is a emergency response vehicle...not some FedEx truck SAFETY AND HUMAN INTERACTION that at times requires seconds in decision making. You mean you are going to rely on a micro chip to make that decision? No back up ? I hope not.
Does anyone notice that this video was copied from the original. Cause last I check signs weren’t spelled backwards and cars didn’t drive on the left side of the road in America.
The video is mirrored had it in selfie mode
is that in England or why are they driving on the left side
The video is mirrored, look on the dashboard behind the steering wheel, "Danger" is also mirrored
It’s filmed in US
look at 4:14 the STOP sign or u see POTS on the left upper corner
It's mirrored I had it in selfie mode
No, it's mirrored, and plus us Brits have fire apparatus that's actually from the 21st century :-)
Is it left to go right and right to go left
Yes sir!
What country is this? They’re driving on the left side.
No it is mirrored lol it is the good old USA!!!!
I had it in selfie mode
I just read where this was your first time. Thank God because it showed.
Haters are going to hate! Lol
He handled that great, u jump into something that Large for ur first time, let see how you do, he even backed it nicely
14:28 when he tries to honk the horn 😂 but theres none
WHY IS IT MIRRORED?
It's in selfie mode So it flips the image
Wow really cool
Hey, KRAMERRRRRRRRR!!!
What's that gauge for
It's to tell what direction you're going and how far your wheels are turning
@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 so there's no speedometer back there? I would at least like to know how fast I would be going, I would have a phone mount back there for GPS speed at least if it were me.
Did anyone notice that all the traffic is driving on the left side of the road, instead of the right.
When we passed a STOP sign, it was spelled backwards.
Hence, the video was some how loaded reversed.
I had it in selfie mode the video is mirrored
Wtf i so happy to sed this vídeo i want be fire depatmen fire man 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wonder how a DUI ticket woodwork driving that thing
I think a DUI is a DUI no matter how you look at it it's not good!!!
Both the tractor driver and the tiller need to be sober to legally drive. Either one of them could get a DUI if drunk.
How do they see infront of the vehicle
It's be surprised how much you can see from up there you're only steering the rear so you really don't need to see in the front!
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Very Cool, good job....
Get this guy a steering ball !
Nice
not necessary if they had automatic rear-wheel steering... lol
DrNo0815 Backing up would probably be easier with a human instead
How do you see that working?
@@RandyCarpadus We see it working at the fire department in my country every day, actually, it works really well in the same way the trailers of trucks can have automatic rear-wheel steering that corresponds with what the driver of the vehicle does (and in trucks with a trailer that supports it, it usually is a set of wheels they can lower when entering a neighbourhood with smaller roads that would make taking a turn difficult, the wheels turn the "wrong" way as opposoed to the wheels of the truck).
@@Dutch3DMaster Rear steering of a straight truck is not anywhere close to rear steering a 40ft long tiller.
@@RandyCarpadus The most common combination of trucks with trailer in my country (The Netherlands) are at the 61 feet mark, and some of the biggest autoladders in the biggest cities might be even slightly longer than that and they all have it and it's absolutely not a problem? (And the firefighting units I mentioned, just like the more common trucks+trailer combinations are not straight trucks, they are seperate.)
Mobil apa ni pilat...
Yg jelas ooiiii buat video tu
I believe these are mechanics road testing a new apparatus readying it for service and why is the danger decal backwards ? Print backwards on school bus . Upload oops ..
Had the camera in selfie mode and it mirrored
You would think they could build the steering so it was like a normal truck, not turning backwards
No need. Backing up is simply logical. It's retraining your senses. A little practice. Just remember, wherever the bottom of the steering wheel goes you go.
Is there any good explanation why they have someone in the back steering manually? I could never make sense out of it because. Hydraulic steering or no steering would also be possible. And way easier. No extra man required und the hydraulic steering could be controlled from the front if necessary.
It helps in cities with tight turns on to smaller streets. I would think it's not as stressful for the main driver to figure how to maneuver himself in those situations.
@@Ben942K that's what automatic or adaptive rear-wheel steering would be for as well. We don't have any Tillers in Europe and we have way tighter streets and turns in the historic city centers here; A Tiller wouldn't be able to reach my house for example
@@EnjoyFirefighting why are you lieing?
A new skill for your resume 😂
I thought it was by a button on truck to lift it up 😂
Did anyone notice they are driving on the wrong side of the road
It's in selfie mode
R u guys going the wrong way
No the camera was in selfie mode so the video is mirrored