@Ryan Farris the fake hair was obvious and the dude was onto it from the start! I got a fzr600 for my first bike I probs should've got a more upright but it is what it is!
Sadly not all dealers and bikers tho. I once got berated by staff because I wanted to buy a motorcycle jacket with high-viz stripes (those reflective stripes ... im not a native speaker) to ride home from work in the evenings. Guy told me to buy a black jacket because it looks better and i'd look "retarded". ... I drove 5min further and bought a similiar jacket from a different store because I'd rather look retarded than get rolled over.
Should have gone in with a hidden cam and act as a shy dummy with money, saying stuff like i want to impress the girls or i want to show them fast cars who's boss.
The wig’s so obvious, can’t tell those salesmen recognized you or not, but at least we know they’re not just selling bikes, they’re really helping you. God bless.
Yeah, I was reading the furled eyebrows like smoke signals off that first guy's face. He's thinking "If this ain't Sean, it's some eyewitness news expose'. He knows every model number I throw at him, I GOTTA find some way to send him home empty handed."
Dude, I think your costume was too obvious, I'd think "it is a trap" the instant you come in with a camera. : S Hire a young guy who just got his licence and send him in maybe?
One of the best things the Big 4 ever did, both for themselves and for the motorcycling community, was to start making lower powered bikes which still resembled supersports. I think too many beginners shied away from better beginner bikes because they looked dorky. Once 250-350cc bikes that looked like a 600cc sportbike became available, more people were successfully introduced to the sport without breaking the bank for the bike and insurance, without scaring themselves to death, and without needlessly dying. There will be tons of people who say they started on a liter bike or a full dresser and they were fine, but if we’re being honest, no one in their right mind would recommend those bikes to a new rider. Thankfully, better options are available, and they’re even fashionable enough for beginners to opt for them.
Yea in 89-95 a 600cc sport bike was a decent choice but not much after that the average 600cc sport bike was no longer a decent beginner bike. One of the issues is that they are so well handling and easy to ride new rider's get a false sense of confidence on them, in my opinion of course for what that is worth.
Indeed. We 3rd world countries appreciated that india and indo making low cc backbone bikes so we can afford to looks edgy riding manual in a underbone scooter region.
the second salesman almost sold the bike to you. If you were really a first time buyer you probably wouldn't pick up on the hints. The first guy was great.
I have actually known a salesman who tried for an hour to talk someone out of one of these superbikes, eventually the manager gave in. Guy died within a week.
S S the thing is he would have just bought it anyway from another dealer, you have to remember people are adults and you advise as much as possible but at the end of the day they make their own choice
no but he was pretty skeptical about it. You could tell he wasnt really comfortable with a beginner getting that bike. But you also dont want to be rude to the customer so he was probably trying to find a nice way to tell him he probably doesnt need that bike.
When I was stationed in Arizona in the day a salesman sold the brand new ZX11 to a private who had never rode a bike. Convinced them to put pipes, rims and a aftermarket windshield on it. They had to show he could ride a bike for him to pick it up from dealer. He rode a circle around the parking lot on my KZ900. The bike ZX11 was totaled leaving the parking lot. He twisted the throttle turning out did a wheelie jumped off, the bike hit the curb on the other side of street flipped and self destructed. Good times.
If the dealership you're taking about was in Sierra Vista I know which one you're talking about, and also saw a similar situation. That was probably 10 years ago.
People don't seem to get that a bike with 150-200 HP is practically equivalent to a car with 800-1000 HP. Go easy on the throttle and feather that clutch until you get a feel for it.
I was stationed in El Paso (mid 80s...I know, I'm old) and talking with the Kawasaki dealer there he showed me the pile of new bikes (crashed) by inexperienced riders. They'd sell a sportbike to anyone that wanted one in those days.
When I was 21, my friend and I went into a Kawasaki shop to look at bikes. There was a young guy in there wearing shorts, entire leg was a huge scab from ankle to hip. He said he was on a 600 Ninja,flying up an on-ramp and there was a semi in the nearest lane, so he ended up laying it down on the shoulder at 80 mph. We asked him why he was in the shop. "To get a Ninja 1000!" he answered. I wanted to get some life insurance on that dude SO bad. My buddy and I still talk about that guy and that was 30 years ago.
Went to buy my first bike at a local dealership roughly 30 min away. I seen this really nice bike "after I picked mine out". A victory Judge, but the sides were all scratched up. I asked the dealer happend to the bike ?. The dealer said the woman who bought the 1200cc bike "don't remeber exact size" laid it down within a weak of owning it. After she did so; she came back and bought an even bigger 1800cc full dressed motorcycle and took shots with her buddys in the parking lot before taking off again.
I remember when I was 20 years old and being pissed because a couple of salesman at a couple of dealerships outright refusing to sell me too much motorcycle. I'm glad they did that now, because if they had I wouldn't have seen 45.
Europe is doing fine with A2 license, if i'm right, it's restricted with maximum 47.5hp bikes for first two years, no matter how old or how wealthy you are!
@@jean-francoisauger9912 it is48hp of you are below 24 years old. you can get a bigger bike with original 96hp, if it is decreased to 48hp by a mechanic.
It really did my heart good, when showed that you sent those guys something for their time. I am in sales, and way too often everyone makes car salesmen out to be such crooks and awful people, and not only enjoy but brag about wasting someone's time. Living off commission, every sale you miss may have been your chance to pay the rent. Most UA-camrs would have just made the video and said "alright thanks" . I always see the scripture in the videos, but I can tell more by your actions that you truly are a man of God. Sorry for long post. Thank you and God bless you!
I started on a 2015 cbr300r. I moved up to a 2017 zx6r and then just recently moved up to a 2019 hayabusa. In a time span of 5 years. I’m glad I did. It was a learning curve. It made me respect the bigger bikes more. I definitely recommend starting out smaller and working your way up!
The 2nd store is 5 minutes from my dads house, I've test drove the zx10r. And Tyler is super chill to talk to and every employee is extremely helpful for any questions and anything else. I ride a 2015 m109r and its my 2nd bike. I love her and she's amazing sounding.
I got excited about riding after seeing a review on a Hyabusa, so I had a dealer try hard to sell me one before I even took the MSF. I decided not to buy anything until after the MSF and getting my motorcycle endorsement. After MSF, I had another dealer try to sell me an R6, but by then I've watched a bunch of UA-cam vids on the subject. I ended up with a Versys 650 and had it for a year, before trading it for an FJ09 that I still have. Videos like this could potential save lives, so thank you for doing what you do.
My 1st road bike was my R1 and in spent many of weeks going strait up my street and back down. Steep learning curve but we had a beautiful 11 year relationship.. side note longer than my marriage. Was sad to see another man ride her away. The bike not the wife 🤣🤣
That's probably what they get a lot of. I've known of people who had never ridden a bike ever in their lives and walk into a place asking about R1's and Hayabusa's. Unfortunately, some of the dealers just saw $$$. One of those guys bought a Busa. He's fine, don't know if he ever crashed it, but I don't really think that he enjoyed it all that much because it was just stupid fast and twitchy.
@Travis : Maybe, but it doesn't mean he would be an experienced rider if he was knowledgeable about Bikes. I was really knowledgeable about bikes, especially off road bikes before I got a YZ 125, because I inhaled bike magazines (had subscriptions) since I was a kid many years before the first bike.
This is awesome, I worked at a dealership we had a guy come in told our sales team that he has been riding for long time he bought the bike road it about 200 hundred yards and wrecked it .what your are doing is great love your UA-cam channel 👍👍👍👍
When I went looking for my first bike I asked about the Honda rebel 500 and ninja 400 that was used....the guy literally walked me over to the Ninja H2. No joke at all, crazy. The only thing I knew was that I couldn’t afford it but I had no idea he was trying to sell me on one of the fastest bikes in the world.
The fact your video had over 800 dislikes 👎 is exactly why you should keep up your great videos and your great advice you deserve all the success in the world proper company and a genuine guy 🏍💨👍
Tip, don’t wear a party wig next time. I suspect that the three salesmen were onto you as a bogus buyer the minute they were blinded by the shine on the plastic hair.
When I was looking at bikes I had no experience, the only place that was dishonest was the local car dealership that decided to open a bike sales shop. I was looking for a z650. They tried selling me a z900 with aftermarket parts. Salesman claimed that it's all throttle control you'll be fine. While some of that's true, you can't expect a new rider to know how to control the throttle smoothly when he/she has never done it. New riders are prone to panic grabs and making mistakes. Big bikes are not forgiving in that aspect. Also there is something to be said about starting on a lighter bike. Ended up buying a z400 from a different dealer. I was laughing internally when they suggested the z900 after had been doing research and sitting on multiple bikes I knew it was about the sale not the customer. Still wish I got the z650 as the 400 has served it's purpose but maybe I'll be ready to move up to the 900 now I have my riding skills down and experience. So new riders do yourself a favor. Get a smaller bike first and and ride for a few years. That way you're not spending a lot of money on something you don't know you'll like, you have time to develop skills needed to operate a bigger bike and when you do drop the bike it doesn't cost so much to repair. Also you're less like to get killed if you're going slower. Ride within your limits/skill.
This was a great “feel good” video. I really believe our motorcycle community has some great people out there and this kinda proves that. Not saying there’ aren’t some bad apples out there, but for the most part, well you know what I mean. We’ve all heard the stories, even I have quite a few. Honesty of the rider or new motorcyclist is a big one here. You were more honest than the, sorry but going to say this, the typical beginner motorcyclist. Like being a beginner is something less than adequate or something, man gotta get over that. Everybody starts some time, and I think we all want everyone to have success and the same joy we have when riding. So to all those new riders or riders riding for a long time but with little experience, just be honest with yourself and other motorcyclists. After renting motorcycles and being a tour guide for several years I can’t tell you how many people signed up for rentals or even tours and embellished or flat out lied about their experience levels. I know you’ve heard this too (daily). Most of them you can weed out, but some do slip through the cracks and end up on a bike (or ride) they shouldn’t be on. BTW - It never ends well. MSF, HD and several other safety and skill advancement classes are out there and all of them share the same goal. To make you a better rider and to help you bring the maximum enjoyment to your riding. Think of it this way, if your going to try skydiving........ Be honest. Great vid, stay well and ride safe. 🤙🏼
Everybody knows it's Undercover Boss when the camera comes out! Plus, give your kids back their witches Halloween hair. Bro, you need to fix your undercover game for real!
I’m an old grey beard that started riding on a 305 Honda Dream when I was 15. A year or so later I walked into a HD dealership inquiring about a new XLCH Sportster. The owner of the shop laughed at me and told me when I wear out the 305 come back and see him and maybe then he’ll talk to me about buying a bike from him. That guy no doubt saved me life. I ended up going back to him two years later and bought a brand new XLCH from him. But that was way before the HD dealership’s became boutiques and were run by real bike riders. Take me back to those good old days.
You have to take into consideration the fact that they knew you were filming... a lot of people won't do something like that if they realize lots and lots of people will find out
I was at a dealership once and asked if they had ever sold anyone a Hyabusa as the guys first bike. He said it had happened twice. One dumped it leaving the parking lot, and the other got onto the straight, got to the first 90 degree corner and promptly totaled it because he was going way too fast, dumped it and sent it sideways into a telephone pole.
msf class doesnt give it justice,you barely ride there. If you decide to try,get something cheap incase you dont like it and want to get rid of it.It took me a year and a diffetent motorcycle to even start enjoying riding
In 1985 the shop I was working at sold a lady a V65 Magna-not for her,but for her mentally handicapped son!My boss and me both tried to talk her out of it,but that was the bike she wanted.I delivered it to her and did the delivery on it.Never saw the bike again,Hope the poor kid did'nt kill himself.
Absolute top marks for that first bike shop. More honest and genuine than I ever expected, him I'd be happy to recommend even to one of my kids for advice on which bike would suit them at whatever experience level they were at. Second shop sounded a little sus at first but soon showed they weren't that irresponsible either. Great stuff, so sad there still are ones who aren't as responsible as these guys.
I walked into a harley dealer as a 21 year old first time rider. I wanted an electra glide. The guy didn't even blink. He walked me over to the cheapest ultra they had and sold me it. I dropped it the first time I got on it. The guys at the dealer ran over helped me pick it up. Then they said it's a great bike and good luck. The first road trip I went on the chain tensioner went out 3 states away from home. I wished they talked me into dyna or a sportster. That was an expensive mistake I'm still paying for 5 years later. Don't go to pike's peak harley davidson.
This is a well-conceived video. For my first bike (and first salesman) I bought a 1994 Honda CB750 nighthawk, right out of the box. I went in looking for power and speed, and had money to burn. The salesman sat me down before even looking at bikes, and we had a conversation about my lack of experience, my intentions for the bike (I was going to purchase then set out for San Diego from Chicago), and (oddly) my assessment of my sense of restraint. I wanted a fast sportbike. He flat out told me I didn't understand anything. He talked about the realities of a cross-country trip, the importance of ergonomics, and how I planned to use the bike once I got out west. He refused to sell me anything faster and more powerfull than the Nighthawk. Best salesman I have ever encountered.
This is exactly what happened to me when I purchased my first bike from South Bay Motor Sports. It was a show room, 2005 Kawasaki ZX10-R. I always wanted the best of whatever I bought, not knowing the trouble I was headed for. First of all, I'm 5'6". I was on my tip toes to keep the bike balanced. I was scared, but to proud to show it, so I had them load it up unto the back of my pick up. I eventually ended up crashing twice in my garage, dropped it a few times and ran into the back of a van which sent me to the hospital for stitches. I continue to ride and am now in the market for bike. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your labor and concern for the beginner riders while keeping these motorcycle dealers honest. May God bless and keep you safe sir. Thanks
I did this once with full intention of riding a bike home. I went in told him what I wanted nothing crazy just what I simply wanted, next thing I know he's showing me newer or expensive bikes. He kept saying they don't have what I wanted. They had one in the store and multiple on their website. Never buy from someone who won't be honest with you
Mad respect to salesmen encouraging against something powerful and not to mention. Not a lot of people would pass up the chance to get commission on an expensive bike like that
I want to thank you for promoting videos that expose the greedy scumbags. I was impressed that 3 out of 3 did it properly. I am rather surprised that none of them attempted to push the expensive overpowered bikes on you. I've been writing for 50 years and never cease to be amazed at the morons are riding high powered street bikes and make bike riders look like irresponsible idiots. I think we need a bike that exposes those fools is well. Again thank you so very much!
20 years ago I walked into a HD dealership and asked what I should get. I was 21 and have never been on a bike and I made that clear. The salesman walked me right to a Fatboy and said it would be a great starter bike for me. Not cool, not cool at all. Thankfully, with the help of a few friends I started off on a Shadow 600.
I was 30 when I bought my first bike, which I got from my older brothers cycle shop. He wouldn't let me buy anything until I at least went to a 2 day riding course. I ended up buying a Suzuki Volusia 800. I was happy with it and kept it about 1 year before trading up to a Kawasaki 1500.
I did this once. Went to a dealership and asked what would be a good dirtbike for me. At the time i was 120lb and the salesman insisted that i purchase a 2016 yz450f race bike which clearly would have been too much bike for me... Idiot just wanted to sell me the most expensive bike possible. Needless to say i just left and will never go back .
I don't often talk about this, but your video hit home for me. In 2001 I had finished my first tour with the Army. During that enlistment I had purchased a Suzuki Marauder. It was an 800cc bike and I absolutely loved it once I got used to the larger engine. Up to this point, I had only ever ridden way smaller in the 350-600cc range. So there I was, on terminal leave and thinking about what my 9 to 5 should be while I was in the National Guard. I was always hanging out at the shop where I purchased my bike and knew everyone, so I put in an application to be a sales rep. At the end of my first month, I got into an altercation with our sales manager. The boke shop was just off the base, and there were a lot of young soldiers that found themselves with a lot of extra money (you can laugh, but for many of us those regular paychecks left us with money to spend). So these young kids would come in and they would instantly eyeball the TLR 1000 or the Hayabusa or the Honda R1, and NO RIDING EXPERIANCE. They took the riders safety course and wanted to jump right in there with the big boys. I would talk them down to bellow a 650, but 9 times out of 10, I wouldn't make a sale. My sales manager was chewing me out one morning before we opened and told me, "I don't care about what happens to them when they take the bike out the door. If they ask for a bike, that is the bike you sell them. These {expletive deleted) are fodder as far as I am concerned." I stood up, walked around his desk and punched him out of his chair. I took my shirt off and turned it in and told the office I would have the rest of my shirts back to them by the end of the day. When the owner started digging into what happened (in an effort to see about pressing charges against me) the other sales reps told him what was said. As a veteran, he took offense to this and fired the sales manager and called to offer me my job back. I didn't accept, but he and I had a long conversation about how the sales practices would change. Riding is an experience that should be enjoyed. You want return customers. You want them to recommend your shop to their friends and get them ridding. You customer base is not an expendable commodity or simply a paycheck. I say expose the bad ones. I fully support what you have done. Maybe more of these shady shops would straighten up if they knew they were being policed by a knowledgeable customer base. And now I miss my Hayabusa. Stupid hurricanes.
I went in looking for my first bike a few years ago, just talking with him asking what he thinks I should get, and he was telling me how he try’s to talk first time riders out of buying 600cc plus bikes, and if they’re dead set on getting one he has another salesman sell it to them. Great guy and I ended up starting on a sv650 :)
Absolutely, and if you are riding with friends or older people, always remember to ride your own ride, if the old farts drive out into traffic, dont follow. Use your head, ride like everyone's out to kill you, and stay calm.
If this wasn’t staged, that salesman did a really good job of acting like someone who was acting like they’re not acting like they know what’s going on.
Awesome vid! Same thing happened to me. Went to a Yamaha dealership looking for a MT 07 and the guy tried talking me into a MT-09 told me just to keep it in B mode till I get comfortable. I left went to the KTM dealership and bought a Duke 390 and fell in love with it. Rode it for a while, figured out I needed more power for the highway and traded it for a Triumph Street Triple RS and absolutely love this bike! It... is... awesome! So easy to handle, to fun to ride.
The third dealer you went to in this video is my closest local dealer. They don’t have the best reputation around here, and I’m not surprised they didn’t allow you to film. Thanks for the video brother!
yeah they wouldnt let me finance a 7k bike with them but Troncalli Dodge had no problems approving me for a 50k car... the bikes excuse was i didnt have enough time on my credit... makes no sense... i think they just didnt want to sell to me for some reason really weird
!!SEAN READ THIS COMMENT!! You know what I think would be an AWESOME business idea... Recommend the MSF course for new riders and tell them that if they bring in their receipt/completion card within 3 months of taking the course that you will deduct the cost of the course from their total purchase of a bike. Great way to incentivise safety, and get them excited to come back and buy a bike at a discount. Plus any time they have a buddy or are talking to other riders they are going to mention "Dude there's this place that discounts your bike if you take the MSF course, you have to go there!" What I would do if I owned a dealership would be if anybody came in who had never ridden before or didn't have their motorcycle license I would say "We strongly recommend taking an MSF safety course. It's a great way to get some experience on a bike. You qualify for insurance discounts, get to skip your road test at the DMV, and you'll get to see how much fun a smaller bike is, and why you don't need a 1000cc bike to begin with. So, we can still sell you a bike if that's what you want. BUT if you take the course and come back within a few months with your paperwork we will take the cost of your class off the price of any bike you want" A shop near me offered 10% off gear if you brought them your completed course card... and actually gave me 10% off a helmet because it's required for the course. I went back and bought two gloves, 3 jackets (Leather for spring/fall, A cold weather gear for late season riding, and a mesh for summer) and a pair of riding pants, and another visor for my helmet. I got a better price than I could find anywhere else, and they got a return customer with a big purchase, as well as I mention them to everybody who asks me about getting in to riding.
@@nulla6602 if you think covid is a sham, by the american government no less, YOU are delusional. Also I do apologize that I lost my job in a global pandemic, il be sure to flog myself in jesus name.
Learning on a small bike the proper way to handle it and different situations really gets you ready to ride much bigger bikes with confidence. Take your motorcycle safety courses. They are worth their weight in gold so to speak. Doesnt matter if you are new or an experienced rider!
I witnessed this in person. I went to buy a little benelli tnt135 , while i was waiting for my insurance to send me proof to show the guy, the sales person was helping another customer. It was her 1st time buying a bike and her boyfriend was going to teach her she just had to buy it. She was trying to buy a zx10r. Fully convinced she wanted it. Didnt care about the power or price. She was committed to buy it. The salesman was trying the whole time to convince her in not buying it, at one point he said, “as much as i want to sell you that bike, i really don’t recommend it” she didn’t care she said she buying it. It was basically the salesman trying the whole time to convince her out of it. He even got his manager after he failed to convince her. I ended up leaving but i hope she didn’t buy it.
When I first learnt to ride I researched everything that I needed to know and a large variety of bikes to find out what I wanted and I had never even put my leg over a motorcycle before.
@@seancorrigan3531 for sure, my main point is that it felt inconsistent that someone who thinks a V8 truck is comparable to to a motorcycle could also rattle off the names of a dozen bikes as if he had said those names a thousand times before.
Back in 02, a kid at my job died this way. He had zero experience and despite all of our protests the parents/ salesman let him go home with a GSXR1000. He crashed and died in less than a month. His parents helped him get it as a birthday present. Imagine the guilt they felt.
That is what I was thinking. He was a good salesman IMO. I used to sell cars and I learned really quick that if your customer has some idea of what they want... you had better sell them what they want. Nothing immoral about that at all.
@@jamesbarrick3403 a car is a car. A bike is something dangerous and putting so much power to a hand and a throttle with someone has no experience with is an easy death sentence. People on Craigslist have more integrity on selling such dangerous machines.
@@MattPerry First off, I was talking about cars. Big difference. But regardless no it is not immoral at all. If any person wants to buy something you may think is not in their best interest... well either you are going to sell it to them or they will go elsewhere. Not my job to be anybody's nanny. BTW I bought my first cycle when I was 17 years old... I bought a 1982 Honda CB500 Custom v-twin. Not crazy by today's standard but it was not a beginner bike in 1983. I had never rode even a dirt bike before. I drove that thing home and taught myself to ride. 35 years later and many cycles later I still have never laid any bike down. Some people can handle it.
Salesman that see you filming probably are already trying to make sure they fit you in the right bike, since in their mind they know that if they get you in the wrong bike you now have evidence that you could probably use against them. Next time you go undercover: 1. Don't draw attention to the fact that you're filming. 2. If it was me trying to sell you one of those bikes, I'd already have a hunch something fishy is going on by just looking at your wig -- the wig looked absolutely like a costume wig, and not a wig someone would wear day to day. discreet filming and a better wig -- Those two things cost money that maybe you're really not willing to spend, for improvements, but if you want to catch them in the act, you need to draw less attention to yourself. Those things aside, at least we know the salesmen you talked to know their stuff and tried to get you in something more safe. Good job!
That 2nd guy man. He was on to you. Did you see the way he was looking at the camera? He knew what you were doing. He knew you wanted to see if he would sell a " beginner" an experienced rider bike. Hands down.
I’m 18 years old and and I’ve been riding for 6-7 months almost daily and I gotta just say my first bike was a 2001 Suzuki bandit 1200S and I’ve loved it and it’s amazing, any bike can be a beginner bike when taught correctly and safely at ur own pace
I went on the back of a Ninja 1000cc when I was a kid and a few of my parents friends had Ninjas. So I always wanted one. I got my licence then bought a Suzuki TS125 X which was a fun bike to get experience on. A few years later I hit the dealer and took a test ride on a Ninja 650, I hated it. At 6’3” I was too tall for it 😭 I bought a Yamaha Fazer 600 instead and loved it for years.
Really happy to hear that there are NOT too many people who are changing money to human lifes. Good choice,Moto brothers. Wish u all the best! Bag me a pardon for my English and HI from cold Russia. Drive safe (not slow but safe)))
Ok, just FYI, smart dealers will always try to sell you a smaller bike... because they know you will outgrow it fairly quickly and come back for the bigger bike that you should have gotten in the first place. It’s just a sales tactic
Mt03 was great choice! The mt07 was my second bike and it was still a handful even though I had a small amount of experience prior. The 07 is way to snappy For beginners imo the mt 10 is an insane bike for even an intermediate rider!!!
@@hankhill432 My first bike was the 07 and I'm really happy with it. We do have extensive training before getting a licence in Norway though, so I was already starting to feel good on 700cc bikes.
@@forkboy3309 alot of men "motorcycle" as in, they get a bike, wash their bike, slightly learn the basics of riding, go on one weekend trip with no real technique and for the next 30 years try to school everyone else on "how its done" Real riders do just that..ride, ride everyday if you have the opportunity, learn techniques, can fix their own motorcycle, and understand safety and speed can co-exist...thats what i mean bud
My first bike was a Yamaha XJ6F (FZ6R in the USA). The best option for me with it's linear power delivery and enough power for my long rides. 3 years later I was already riding an FJR1300 which I still have and love.
I wanted to buy an FZ-07 as my first bike, the salesman tried to sell me an FZ-09. I laughed at him, told him no way in hell, and went to another dealership. Got an FZ-07 the same day. Thank god for motorcycle reviewers, they helped me make an informed choice before I went to the dealer.
If he dyed his hair he’d be more unrecognizable. That disguise didn’t fool anyone. Those new pod rear fenders hurt my eyes. Look like snail eyes on a broom handle.
Still blown away by people that say “ eh I’m just gonna start out on a little r6 or something like that” make no mistake about it 600cc sport bikes are still crazy fast. At the same time they will all go slow. It’s tough for people starting out, they don’t want to buy a smaller bike that doesn’t hold value and they don’t realize how much potential even the smaller sport bikes have, especially in the twisties.
First Street bike was rebel 250. I learned about the gravel that builds up in turning lanes. The painted lines can be slippery especially when wet. And grass. Also at red lights the oil and other fluids build up so when you stop you don't want to put yourself in a position to put your foot down in the fluid build up because your foot will slide out and you will drop your bike. They should teach all this at the omv. Great video. Thanks for sharing
That was the worst "undercover" ever - dude was onto you from the get go.
@Ryan Farris the fake hair was obvious and the dude was onto it from the start! I got a fzr600 for my first bike I probs should've got a more upright but it is what it is!
I got a new undercover video coming out where we made a lot of changes. Your going to love it
@@BikesandBeards can't wait, I loved the last one
@Brett Thatcher I'd try it but I don't have friends
Agree some of those questions, a new rider wouldn't even know to ask
Glad to see that bikers are still honest with each other even when money is involved. Completely different mind set to car dealers!
Sadly not all dealers and bikers tho. I once got berated by staff because I wanted to buy a motorcycle jacket with high-viz stripes (those reflective stripes ... im not a native speaker) to ride home from work in the evenings.
Guy told me to buy a black jacket because it looks better and i'd look "retarded".
... I drove 5min further and bought a similiar jacket from a different store because I'd rather look retarded than get rolled over.
@@uNiandstrize He had a good point tho
Not everyday tho
Good salesmen. Stayed professional all the way to the end.
They are honest, until you turn the camera off.
When people got a camera on them, they tend to be more cautious about what they say or recommend.
I was about to say this.
Thats why this test is bs imo it doesnt show what its really like
Should have gone in with a hidden cam and act as a shy dummy with money, saying stuff like i want to impress the girls or i want to show them fast cars who's boss.
The salesman I dealt with recommended a 300-600 cc bike also. He was really helpful. They aren't all bad just trying to sell the most expensive
mram3610 Imma start on a 600 lol
He knew it was fake right when he said “are you wearing a wig?”
Recommending the motorcycle safety class was a good idea.
Duh
im sure they saw the fake hair from a mile away
Yeah.. that's pretty damn shiny there. LOL
That wig is truly terrible.
I’m wearing this wig in case someone recognizes me. Ain’t no one going to recognize this dude
It’s just really greasy 😂
Maybe hes got a medical issue,,,lmaof
The wig’s so obvious, can’t tell those salesmen recognized you or not, but at least we know they’re not just selling bikes, they’re really helping you. God bless.
yea right ? they even help weirdos who film themselves and wear wigs..
Yeah, I was reading the furled eyebrows like smoke signals off that first guy's face. He's thinking "If this ain't Sean, it's some eyewitness news expose'. He knows every model number I throw at him, I GOTTA find some way to send him home empty handed."
Dude, I think your costume was too obvious, I'd think "it is a trap" the instant you come in with a camera. : S
Hire a young guy who just got his licence and send him in maybe?
yep and use a hidden mini camera
If you really are trying to catch someone, this is the only way. Unknown person and hidden camera.
hey SRK, just got my permit, and a used ninja 250 maybe we can see who will sell me an H2?
I agree. I would have known exactly what you were up to, so would the pushy salesman wanting to make a big commission.
Yeah that shiny wig even looked fake on camera lol.
One of the best things the Big 4 ever did, both for themselves and for the motorcycling community, was to start making lower powered bikes which still resembled supersports. I think too many beginners shied away from better beginner bikes because they looked dorky. Once 250-350cc bikes that looked like a 600cc sportbike became available, more people were successfully introduced to the sport without breaking the bank for the bike and insurance, without scaring themselves to death, and without needlessly dying.
There will be tons of people who say they started on a liter bike or a full dresser and they were fine, but if we’re being honest, no one in their right mind would recommend those bikes to a new rider. Thankfully, better options are available, and they’re even fashionable enough for beginners to opt for them.
Amen to that! I learned to ride on a CBR125R. Only real difference that model year between a 300 and the 125 was the skinny ass tires 😂
Yea in 89-95 a 600cc sport bike was a decent choice but not much after that the average 600cc sport bike was no longer a decent beginner bike. One of the issues is that they are so well handling and easy to ride new rider's get a false sense of confidence on them, in my opinion of course for what that is worth.
Indeed. We 3rd world countries appreciated that india and indo making low cc backbone bikes so we can afford to looks edgy riding manual in a underbone scooter region.
Could’ve worn a mask. Had the best bloody excuse due to corona and instead he get grabs the cheapest wig he could find
I guess sane salesmen know that they can't get repeat business from a customer who folded themselves around a tree.
Well said... you beat me to it!
Sell a beginner the right bike, the right way and he'll be back to buy 2 more as he upgrades over the years.
Makes a lot of sense
Fermitu Poupon yeah all jacked up talking about chasing adrenaline highs skydiving and speeding down the highway on the way there. 🤣
There is also the rule of nine: One dissatisfied custumer takes nine other with him. Not accurate, but people tend to talk about their experience.
That's if you got alot of money to throw away buying new
the second salesman almost sold the bike to you. If you were really a first time buyer you probably wouldn't pick up on the hints. The first guy was great.
I have actually known a salesman who tried for an hour to talk someone out of one of these superbikes, eventually the manager gave in. Guy died within a week.
This so Sad, at least salesman tired and he's conscious is clean.
That’s sad. Wish they had just said sorry we won’t sell you this bike. If they lost a customer due to not selling it then so be it.
S S the thing is he would have just bought it anyway from another dealer, you have to remember people are adults and you advise as much as possible but at the end of the day they make their own choice
@@josejimenez-gw5yl I'm also not sure of the legality of it, if he has the money and the proper license can you say no?
Sadly tho the guy may have still died even if he bought a 400. I knew a guy killed on a small "starter" bike because he lost it in gravel.
Next time get a better wig or don’t even go in with a wig at all
right..shit pisses me off..take it seriously
Who has the wig the dealer or the guy?
@@adriancadillo3081 seriously who has the wig did you watch the video obviously the guy trying to buy the motorcycle
inemm no no if you look carefully you can see the dealers hair shine very irregularly and very reminiscent of a wig if you ask me
I like the second guy didn’t try and talk him out of the bike he wanted but recommended some easier bikes to start when prompted.
no but he was pretty skeptical about it. You could tell he wasnt really comfortable with a beginner getting that bike. But you also dont want to be rude to the customer so he was probably trying to find a nice way to tell him he probably doesnt need that bike.
When I was stationed in Arizona in the day a salesman sold the brand new ZX11 to a private who had never rode a bike. Convinced them to put pipes, rims and a aftermarket windshield on it. They had to show he could ride a bike for him to pick it up from dealer. He rode a circle around the parking lot on my KZ900. The bike ZX11 was totaled leaving the parking lot. He twisted the throttle turning out did a wheelie jumped off, the bike hit the curb on the other side of street flipped and self destructed. Good times.
If the dealership you're taking about was in Sierra Vista I know which one you're talking about, and also saw a similar situation. That was probably 10 years ago.
People don't seem to get that a bike with 150-200 HP is practically equivalent to a car with 800-1000 HP. Go easy on the throttle and feather that clutch until you get a feel for it.
Iamlukie !
Sounds like good times indeed
Sounds like Ride Later, they have a well deserved reputation
I was stationed in El Paso (mid 80s...I know, I'm old) and talking with the Kawasaki dealer there he showed me the pile of new bikes (crashed) by inexperienced riders. They'd sell a sportbike to anyone that wanted one in those days.
When I was 21, my friend and I went into a Kawasaki shop to look at bikes. There was a young guy in there wearing shorts, entire leg was a huge scab from ankle to hip. He said he was on a 600 Ninja,flying up an on-ramp and there was a semi in the nearest lane, so he ended up laying it down on the shoulder at 80 mph. We asked him why he was in the shop. "To get a Ninja 1000!" he answered. I wanted to get some life insurance on that dude SO bad. My buddy and I still talk about that guy and that was 30 years ago.
Yikes.
Some people luv riding
Went to buy my first bike at a local dealership roughly 30 min away. I seen this really nice bike "after I picked mine out". A victory Judge, but the sides were all scratched up. I asked the dealer happend to the bike ?. The dealer said the woman who bought the 1200cc bike "don't remeber exact size" laid it down within a weak of owning it. After she did so; she came back and bought an even bigger 1800cc full dressed motorcycle and took shots with her buddys in the parking lot before taking off again.
Well I'm 22 and been riding motorcycles for 10 years just bought R1(not m). Yeah I started at when I was 12 years old.
You never shot a handgun before? Here, take this S&W 500, good luck!
make sure your first shot is 1 handed so u get a good feel for it. lol
earing protection? what for ? huh? what i cant hear you?
@@votpavel you mean face protection, because a massive 500 s&w revolver will slam on your face due to recoil, probably breaking your nose :D
@@Tonyx.yt. only if you are a weak little pansy!
I just bought a s&w mp shield 2.0 I did some research and its a great gun I cant get into any shooting ranges right now they're packed full atm
The second didn't give a shit. Only reason he started saying stuff about the other bikes is because you prompted him multiple times
That's because he was either coming in or going out. Dude had a backpack slung over his shoulder. He was not in his sales mode.
@@BoogerEaterBare yeah but he shoulda just said nope and got him a salesman lmao. Dude didnt really care
I remember when I was 20 years old and being pissed because a couple of salesman at a couple of dealerships outright refusing to sell me too much motorcycle. I'm glad they did that now, because if they had I wouldn't have seen 45.
Europe is doing fine with A2 license, if i'm right, it's restricted with maximum 47.5hp bikes for first two years, no matter how old or how wealthy you are!
@@jean-francoisauger9912 actually after you finish 29 you can go for the full A and get whatever you like.
@@jean-francoisauger9912 it is48hp of you are below 24 years old. you can get a bigger bike with original 96hp, if it is decreased to 48hp by a mechanic.
@@geor992 That's still good for young beginners!
@@jean-francoisauger9912 what is that in cc size. like 125cc?
It really did my heart good, when showed that you sent those guys something for their time. I am in sales, and way too often everyone makes car salesmen out to be such crooks and awful people, and not only enjoy but brag about wasting someone's time. Living off commission, every sale you miss may have been your chance to pay the rent. Most UA-camrs would have just made the video and said "alright thanks" . I always see the scripture in the videos, but I can tell more by your actions that you truly are a man of God. Sorry for long post.
Thank you and God bless you!
Great stuff, in 1970 I was eyeballing a Honda cb 750 at the dealership that sponsored me in motocross, I was 17, the dealer said "no way",
I started on a 2015 cbr300r. I moved up to a 2017 zx6r and then just recently moved up to a 2019 hayabusa. In a time span of 5 years. I’m glad I did. It was a learning curve. It made me respect the bigger bikes more. I definitely recommend starting out smaller and working your way up!
Can we take a moment and appreciate how awesome that warning label is? Finally, a company that just comes out and says it.
The 2nd store is 5 minutes from my dads house, I've test drove the zx10r. And Tyler is super chill to talk to and every employee is extremely helpful for any questions and anything else. I ride a 2015 m109r and its my 2nd bike. I love her and she's amazing sounding.
I got excited about riding after seeing a review on a Hyabusa, so I had a dealer try hard to sell me one before I even took the MSF. I decided not to buy anything until after the MSF and getting my motorcycle endorsement. After MSF, I had another dealer try to sell me an R6, but by then I've watched a bunch of UA-cam vids on the subject. I ended up with a Versys 650 and had it for a year, before trading it for an FJ09 that I still have. Videos like this could potential save lives, so thank you for doing what you do.
My 1st road bike was my R1 and in spent many of weeks going strait up my street and back down. Steep learning curve but we had a beautiful 11 year relationship.. side note longer than my marriage. Was sad to see another man ride her away. The bike not the wife 🤣🤣
🤣😂
😅😅😅🤘🤘
Hahaha yesss! Legend
at least she will still be beautiful after 20 plus years
@@votpavel 😅😅
I feel like because those dudes were on camera, they gave better advice than purely looking at their commission.
On their best behavior
Guy #2 was for sure gonna sell him a zx14 no shit
Ah the observer effect
He’s naming all the bikes before the employee does , I’d be sus considering he says he has “no experience”
That's probably what they get a lot of. I've known of people who had never ridden a bike ever in their lives and walk into a place asking about R1's and Hayabusa's. Unfortunately, some of the dealers just saw $$$. One of those guys bought a Busa. He's fine, don't know if he ever crashed it, but I don't really think that he enjoyed it all that much because it was just stupid fast and twitchy.
@Travis : Maybe, but it doesn't mean he would be an experienced rider if he was knowledgeable about Bikes. I was really knowledgeable about bikes, especially off road bikes before I got a YZ 125, because I inhaled bike magazines (had subscriptions) since I was a kid many years before the first bike.
This is awesome, I worked at a dealership we had a guy come in told our sales team that he has been riding for long time he bought the bike road it about 200 hundred yards and wrecked it .what your are doing is great love your UA-cam channel 👍👍👍👍
When I went looking for my first bike I asked about the Honda rebel 500 and ninja 400 that was used....the guy literally walked me over to the Ninja H2. No joke at all, crazy. The only thing I knew was that I couldn’t afford it but I had no idea he was trying to sell me on one of the fastest bikes in the world.
wow thats insane !!!!!
3 dealers, i visited for my first bike: I had to say to the salesman he was crazy suggesting me a FZ09. I was clearly more advised than him.
Salesman probably just did a line
This was too funny man. I got a V8. You should have pulled out the damn vegetable drink
Haven't seen that drink for years
Great idea
The fact your video had over 800 dislikes 👎 is exactly why you should keep up your great videos and your great advice you deserve all the success in the world proper company and a genuine guy 🏍💨👍
Tip, don’t wear a party wig next time. I suspect that the three salesmen were onto you as a bogus buyer the minute they were blinded by the shine on the plastic hair.
When I was looking at bikes I had no experience, the only place that was dishonest was the local car dealership that decided to open a bike sales shop. I was looking for a z650. They tried selling me a z900 with aftermarket parts. Salesman claimed that it's all throttle control you'll be fine. While some of that's true, you can't expect a new rider to know how to control the throttle smoothly when he/she has never done it. New riders are prone to panic grabs and making mistakes. Big bikes are not forgiving in that aspect. Also there is something to be said about starting on a lighter bike. Ended up buying a z400 from a different dealer. I was laughing internally when they suggested the z900 after had been doing research and sitting on multiple bikes I knew it was about the sale not the customer. Still wish I got the z650 as the 400 has served it's purpose but maybe I'll be ready to move up to the 900 now I have my riding skills down and experience.
So new riders do yourself a favor. Get a smaller bike first and and ride for a few years. That way you're not spending a lot of money on something you don't know you'll like, you have time to develop skills needed to operate a bigger bike and when you do drop the bike it doesn't cost so much to repair. Also you're less like to get killed if you're going slower. Ride within your limits/skill.
This was a great “feel good” video. I really believe our motorcycle community has some great people out there and this kinda proves that. Not saying there’ aren’t some bad apples out there, but for the most part, well you know what I mean. We’ve all heard the stories, even I have quite a few. Honesty of the rider or new motorcyclist is a big one here. You were more honest than the, sorry but going to say this, the typical beginner motorcyclist. Like being a beginner is something less than adequate or something, man gotta get over that. Everybody starts some time, and I think we all want everyone to have success and the same joy we have when riding. So to all those new riders or riders riding for a long time but with little experience, just be honest with yourself and other motorcyclists. After renting motorcycles and being a tour guide for several years I can’t tell you how many people signed up for rentals or even tours and embellished or flat out lied about their experience levels. I know you’ve heard this too (daily). Most of them you can weed out, but some do slip through the cracks and end up on a bike (or ride) they shouldn’t be on. BTW - It never ends well. MSF, HD and several other safety and skill advancement classes are out there and all of them share the same goal. To make you a better rider and to help you bring the maximum enjoyment to your riding. Think of it this way, if your going to try skydiving........ Be honest.
Great vid, stay well and ride safe. 🤙🏼
Everybody knows it's Undercover Boss when the camera comes out! Plus, give your kids back their witches Halloween hair. Bro, you need to fix your undercover game for real!
I’m an old grey beard that started riding on a 305 Honda Dream when I was 15. A year or so later I walked into a HD dealership inquiring about a new XLCH Sportster. The owner of the shop laughed at me and told me when I wear out the 305 come back and see him and maybe then he’ll talk to me about buying a bike from him. That guy no doubt saved me life. I ended up going back to him two years later and bought a brand new XLCH from him. But that was way before the HD dealership’s became boutiques and were run by real bike riders. Take me back to those good old days.
You have to take into consideration the fact that they knew you were filming... a lot of people won't do something like that if they realize lots and lots of people will find out
When Sean said, "So you're thinking like a Ducati?" I cried.
I was at a dealership once and asked if they had ever sold anyone a Hyabusa as the guys first bike. He said it had happened twice. One dumped it leaving the parking lot, and the other got onto the straight, got to the first 90 degree corner and promptly totaled it because he was going way too fast, dumped it and sent it sideways into a telephone pole.
I've never even ridden a motorcycle and I love this channel. So many good vids.
msf class doesnt give it justice,you barely ride there.
If you decide to try,get something cheap incase you dont like it and want to get rid of it.It took me a year and a diffetent motorcycle to even start enjoying riding
RE-L Mayer lol
In 1985 the shop I was working at sold a lady a V65 Magna-not for her,but for her mentally handicapped son!My boss and me both tried to talk her out of it,but that was the bike she wanted.I delivered it to her and did the delivery on it.Never saw the bike again,Hope the poor kid did'nt kill himself.
Absolute top marks for that first bike shop. More honest and genuine than I ever expected, him I'd be happy to recommend even to one of my kids for advice on which bike would suit them at whatever experience level they were at.
Second shop sounded a little sus at first but soon showed they weren't that irresponsible either. Great stuff, so sad there still are ones who aren't as responsible as these guys.
guy, nobody would recognize you - that "disguise" is taking more of a chance
He's disguised as X-pac from WWE.
ua-cam.com/video/x43Nu-lBGcM/v-deo.html
@@NeutralTea he looks more like syxx from wcw to me.
@@awesomeatronik lmao same guy.
I walked into a harley dealer as a 21 year old first time rider. I wanted an electra glide. The guy didn't even blink. He walked me over to the cheapest ultra they had and sold me it. I dropped it the first time I got on it. The guys at the dealer ran over helped me pick it up. Then they said it's a great bike and good luck. The first road trip I went on the chain tensioner went out 3 states away from home. I wished they talked me into dyna or a sportster. That was an expensive mistake I'm still paying for 5 years later. Don't go to pike's peak harley davidson.
“I’ve ridden 10 speeds... like 10 speed bicycles” 😂😂I’m dead
Mr. Murica “ I have a V8”
Yeah, that makes you look REALLY dumb.
This is a well-conceived video. For my first bike (and first salesman) I bought a 1994 Honda CB750 nighthawk, right out of the box. I went in looking for power and speed, and had money to burn. The salesman sat me down before even looking at bikes, and we had a conversation about my lack of experience, my intentions for the bike (I was going to purchase then set out for San Diego from Chicago), and (oddly) my assessment of my sense of restraint. I wanted a fast sportbike. He flat out told me I didn't understand anything. He talked about the realities of a cross-country trip, the importance of ergonomics, and how I planned to use the bike once I got out west. He refused to sell me anything faster and more powerfull than the Nighthawk. Best salesman I have ever encountered.
This is exactly what happened to me when I purchased my first bike from South Bay Motor Sports. It was a show room, 2005 Kawasaki ZX10-R. I always wanted the best of whatever I bought, not knowing the trouble I was headed for. First of all, I'm 5'6". I was on my tip toes to keep the bike balanced. I was scared, but to proud to show it, so I had them load it up unto the back of my pick up. I eventually ended up crashing twice in my garage, dropped it a few times and ran into the back of a van which sent me to the hospital for stitches. I continue to ride and am now in the market for bike. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your labor and concern for the beginner riders while keeping these motorcycle dealers honest. May God bless and keep you safe sir. Thanks
You should go in there still dressed as a beginner, actually buy one of the 1000cc, and then get their reaction when you drive it off.
I did this once with full intention of riding a bike home. I went in told him what I wanted nothing crazy just what I simply wanted, next thing I know he's showing me newer or expensive bikes. He kept saying they don't have what I wanted. They had one in the store and multiple on their website. Never buy from someone who won't be honest with you
That second dealer didn’t really talk him out of it he had to talk the dealer into talking himself out of it 😂😂😂
Mad respect to salesmen encouraging against something powerful and not to mention. Not a lot of people would pass up the chance to get commission on an expensive bike like that
I want to thank you for promoting videos that expose the greedy scumbags. I was impressed that 3 out of 3 did it properly. I am rather surprised that none of them attempted to push the expensive overpowered bikes on you. I've been writing for 50 years and never cease to be amazed at the morons are riding high powered street bikes and make bike riders look like irresponsible idiots. I think we need a bike that exposes those fools is well. Again thank you so very much!
That wig looks amazing don’t let anyone tell you any different.
You should do one with a hidden cam...I feel like they wouldn’t want to “fool” you if they know they aren’t being filmed
20 years ago I walked into a HD dealership and asked what I should get. I was 21 and have never been on a bike and I made that clear. The salesman walked me right to a Fatboy and said it would be a great starter bike for me. Not cool, not cool at all. Thankfully, with the help of a few friends I started off on a Shadow 600.
To each his own...
I love your channel guys. Awesome stuff.
From a chick in Australia.
I was 30 when I bought my first bike, which I got from my older brothers cycle shop. He wouldn't let me buy anything until I at least went to a 2 day riding course. I ended up buying a Suzuki Volusia 800. I was happy with it and kept it about 1 year before trading up to a Kawasaki 1500.
Hehe. I've purchased a Harley at Cycle World in Athens, GA.
I did this once. Went to a dealership and asked what would be a good dirtbike for me. At the time i was 120lb and the salesman insisted that i purchase a 2016 yz450f race bike which clearly would have been too much bike for me... Idiot just wanted to sell me the most expensive bike possible. Needless to say i just left and will never go back .
I don't often talk about this, but your video hit home for me. In 2001 I had finished my first tour with the Army. During that enlistment I had purchased a Suzuki Marauder. It was an 800cc bike and I absolutely loved it once I got used to the larger engine. Up to this point, I had only ever ridden way smaller in the 350-600cc range. So there I was, on terminal leave and thinking about what my 9 to 5 should be while I was in the National Guard. I was always hanging out at the shop where I purchased my bike and knew everyone, so I put in an application to be a sales rep. At the end of my first month, I got into an altercation with our sales manager. The boke shop was just off the base, and there were a lot of young soldiers that found themselves with a lot of extra money (you can laugh, but for many of us those regular paychecks left us with money to spend). So these young kids would come in and they would instantly eyeball the TLR 1000 or the Hayabusa or the Honda R1, and NO RIDING EXPERIANCE. They took the riders safety course and wanted to jump right in there with the big boys. I would talk them down to bellow a 650, but 9 times out of 10, I wouldn't make a sale. My sales manager was chewing me out one morning before we opened and told me, "I don't care about what happens to them when they take the bike out the door. If they ask for a bike, that is the bike you sell them. These {expletive deleted) are fodder as far as I am concerned." I stood up, walked around his desk and punched him out of his chair. I took my shirt off and turned it in and told the office I would have the rest of my shirts back to them by the end of the day. When the owner started digging into what happened (in an effort to see about pressing charges against me) the other sales reps told him what was said. As a veteran, he took offense to this and fired the sales manager and called to offer me my job back. I didn't accept, but he and I had a long conversation about how the sales practices would change. Riding is an experience that should be enjoyed. You want return customers. You want them to recommend your shop to their friends and get them ridding. You customer base is not an expendable commodity or simply a paycheck. I say expose the bad ones. I fully support what you have done. Maybe more of these shady shops would straighten up if they knew they were being policed by a knowledgeable customer base. And now I miss my Hayabusa. Stupid hurricanes.
I went in looking for my first bike a few years ago, just talking with him asking what he thinks I should get, and he was telling me how he try’s to talk first time riders out of buying 600cc plus bikes, and if they’re dead set on getting one he has another salesman sell it to them. Great guy and I ended up starting on a sv650 :)
love the verse of the week please keep those🙌🏻
Here is piece of safe advise for new and advance riders: Always ride like everyone around is trying to kill you! Thank you should be safe !
Sounds kinda stressful ...
Leave yourself a way out, figure that car doesn't see you and is going to aim for you. Keep safe
Absolutely, and if you are riding with friends or older people, always remember to ride your own ride, if the old farts drive out into traffic, dont follow. Use your head, ride like everyone's out to kill you, and stay calm.
If this wasn’t staged, that salesman did a really good job of acting like someone who was acting like they’re not acting like they know what’s going on.
They were honest because they had a camera in their face. I'd love to see the results either a hidden camera.
Awesome vid! Same thing happened to me. Went to a Yamaha dealership looking for a MT 07 and the guy tried talking me into a MT-09 told me just to keep it in B mode till I get comfortable. I left went to the KTM dealership and bought a Duke 390 and fell in love with it. Rode it for a while, figured out I needed more power for the highway and traded it for a Triumph Street Triple RS and absolutely love this bike! It... is... awesome! So easy to handle, to fun to ride.
The third dealer you went to in this video is my closest local dealer. They don’t have the best reputation around here, and I’m not surprised they didn’t allow you to film. Thanks for the video brother!
yeah they wouldnt let me finance a 7k bike with them but Troncalli Dodge had no problems approving me for a 50k car... the bikes excuse was i didnt have enough time on my credit... makes no sense... i think they just didnt want to sell to me for some reason really weird
!!SEAN READ THIS COMMENT!! You know what I think would be an AWESOME business idea... Recommend the MSF course for new riders and tell them that if they bring in their receipt/completion card within 3 months of taking the course that you will deduct the cost of the course from their total purchase of a bike. Great way to incentivise safety, and get them excited to come back and buy a bike at a discount. Plus any time they have a buddy or are talking to other riders they are going to mention "Dude there's this place that discounts your bike if you take the MSF course, you have to go there!"
What I would do if I owned a dealership would be if anybody came in who had never ridden before or didn't have their motorcycle license I would say "We strongly recommend taking an MSF safety course. It's a great way to get some experience on a bike. You qualify for insurance discounts, get to skip your road test at the DMV, and you'll get to see how much fun a smaller bike is, and why you don't need a 1000cc bike to begin with. So, we can still sell you a bike if that's what you want. BUT if you take the course and come back within a few months with your paperwork we will take the cost of your class off the price of any bike you want"
A shop near me offered 10% off gear if you brought them your completed course card... and actually gave me 10% off a helmet because it's required for the course. I went back and bought two gloves, 3 jackets (Leather for spring/fall, A cold weather gear for late season riding, and a mesh for summer) and a pair of riding pants, and another visor for my helmet. I got a better price than I could find anywhere else, and they got a return customer with a big purchase, as well as I mention them to everybody who asks me about getting in to riding.
"if I have to, I'll wear a mask". So not even when you need to mask your identity, will you wear a mask lol
jackiejtheg Both of them not wearing a mask is so gross man
Rotchild masks are as useless as our governor’s, COVID is a sham
@@nulla6602 you need to get out more
Greg Dawe I’m out everyday 😂 some of us work for a living. If you think that mask is gonna save you from getting COVID your delusional.
@@nulla6602 if you think covid is a sham, by the american government no less, YOU are delusional. Also I do apologize that I lost my job in a global pandemic, il be sure to flog myself in jesus name.
this guy’s hair is so shiny. I wonder what he puts on.
Learning on a small bike the proper way to handle it and different situations really gets you ready to ride much bigger bikes with confidence. Take your motorcycle safety courses. They are worth their weight in gold so to speak. Doesnt matter if you are new or an experienced rider!
I witnessed this in person. I went to buy a little benelli tnt135 , while i was waiting for my insurance to send me proof to show the guy, the sales person was helping another customer. It was her 1st time buying a bike and her boyfriend was going to teach her she just had to buy it. She was trying to buy a zx10r. Fully convinced she wanted it. Didnt care about the power or price. She was committed to buy it. The salesman was trying the whole time to convince her in not buying it, at one point he said, “as much as i want to sell you that bike, i really don’t recommend it” she didn’t care she said she buying it. It was basically the salesman trying the whole time to convince her out of it. He even got his manager after he failed to convince her. I ended up leaving but i hope she didn’t buy it.
jajaja, "are you wearing a wig, man??" jaja i can tell cause is too shiny , very nice video!!
Tip to sound like a beginner, don't say the names of bikes so quickly
When I first learnt to ride I researched everything that I needed to know and a large variety of bikes to find out what I wanted and I had never even put my leg over a motorcycle before.
@@seancorrigan3531 for sure, my main point is that it felt inconsistent that someone who thinks a V8 truck is comparable to to a motorcycle could also rattle off the names of a dozen bikes as if he had said those names a thousand times before.
@@JoelCreates Same thoughts. Too smart!
Whaha funny vid. You got me back into pitbikes agian. Bought 5 pitbikes and doing build serie on them😃
Back in 02, a kid at my job died this way. He had zero experience and despite all of our protests the parents/ salesman let him go home with a GSXR1000. He crashed and died in less than a month. His parents helped him get it as a birthday present. Imagine the guilt they felt.
Damn
Got my drz-400 from the first shop with the same guy he is an extremely honest man and really laid back
The second guy didnt talked you out of buying a fast bike. YOU did, he wouldve sold you that bike knowing you had no experience.
That is what I was thinking. He was a good salesman IMO. I used to sell cars and I learned really quick that if your customer has some idea of what they want... you had better sell them what they want. Nothing immoral about that at all.
@@jamesbarrick3403 a car is a car. A bike is something dangerous and putting so much power to a hand and a throttle with someone has no experience with is an easy death sentence. People on Craigslist have more integrity on selling such dangerous machines.
@@jamesbarrick3403 Yes, it´s immoral, you gonna profit for their suicide.
@@MattPerry First off, I was talking about cars. Big difference. But regardless no it is not immoral at all. If any person wants to buy something you may think is not in their best interest... well either you are going to sell it to them or they will go elsewhere. Not my job to be anybody's nanny. BTW I bought my first cycle when I was 17 years old... I bought a 1982 Honda CB500 Custom v-twin. Not crazy by today's standard but it was not a beginner bike in 1983. I had never rode even a dirt bike before. I drove that thing home and taught myself to ride. 35 years later and many cycles later I still have never laid any bike down. Some people can handle it.
@@jamesbarrick3403 It is immoral, a child would see that one...
This dude was trying to convince me how an r1 could be a first bike
Could be your first and last lol
The last bike you'll ever need!
Salesman that see you filming probably are already trying to make sure they fit you in the right bike, since in their mind they know that if they get you in the wrong bike you now have evidence that you could probably use against them.
Next time you go undercover:
1. Don't draw attention to the fact that you're filming.
2. If it was me trying to sell you one of those bikes, I'd already have a hunch something fishy is going on by just looking at your wig -- the wig looked absolutely like a costume wig, and not a wig someone would wear day to day.
discreet filming and a better wig -- Those two things cost money that maybe you're really not willing to spend, for improvements, but if you want to catch them in the act, you need to draw less attention to yourself.
Those things aside, at least we know the salesmen you talked to know their stuff and tried to get you in something more safe. Good job!
That 2nd guy man. He was on to you. Did you see the way he was looking at the camera? He knew what you were doing. He knew you wanted to see if he would sell a " beginner" an experienced rider bike. Hands down.
I’m 18 years old and and I’ve been riding for 6-7 months almost daily and I gotta just say my first bike was a 2001 Suzuki bandit 1200S and I’ve loved it and it’s amazing, any bike can be a beginner bike when taught correctly and safely at ur own pace
I went on the back of a Ninja 1000cc when I was a kid and a few of my parents friends had Ninjas. So I always wanted one. I got my licence then bought a Suzuki TS125 X which was a fun bike to get experience on. A few years later I hit the dealer and took a test ride on a Ninja 650, I hated it. At 6’3” I was too tall for it 😭 I bought a Yamaha Fazer 600 instead and loved it for years.
“IVE GOT A V8” 😂😂😂😂
This long haired dude spotted the wig though
Try the same trick but without a camera in the salesmen's faces and see how it goes. Don't keep your hopes up
Really happy to hear that there are NOT too many people who are changing money to human lifes. Good choice,Moto brothers. Wish u all the best! Bag me a pardon for my English and HI from cold Russia. Drive safe (not slow but safe)))
Ok, just FYI, smart dealers will always try to sell you a smaller bike... because they know you will outgrow it fairly quickly and come back for the bigger bike that you should have gotten in the first place. It’s just a sales tactic
My friend talked me down to a mt03 as my first bike. Went to look at a mt07 and Yamaha advised a mt10. Definitely glad I only went for the 03 now
There's not a chance in hell Yamaha would recommend an MT10 as a first bike, don't talk wet...
Well I can tell you that they did and sorry I don't talk chav
Mt03 was great choice! The mt07 was my second bike and it was still a handful even though I had a small amount of experience prior. The 07 is way to snappy For beginners imo the mt 10 is an insane bike for even an intermediate rider!!!
@@hankhill432 My first bike was the 07 and I'm really happy with it. We do have extensive training before getting a licence in Norway though, so I was already starting to feel good on 700cc bikes.
TheAerowix Same counts in Belgium
No need to “pretend” you have no experience.....
Ouch! Someone pass the ice to soothe that burn!
I actually have to agree, ive never seen this guy actually ride. Alot of men motorcycle, only some ride.
Trent Cantu what do you mean?
@@forkboy3309 alot of men "motorcycle" as in, they get a bike, wash their bike, slightly learn the basics of riding, go on one weekend trip with no real technique and for the next 30 years try to school everyone else on "how its done"
Real riders do just that..ride, ride everyday if you have the opportunity, learn techniques, can fix their own motorcycle, and understand safety and speed can co-exist...thats what i mean bud
"I got a V8" car? "Suburban" bwahahaha!
My first bike was a Yamaha XJ6F (FZ6R in the USA). The best option for me with it's linear power delivery and enough power for my long rides. 3 years later I was already riding an FJR1300 which I still have and love.
I wanted to buy an FZ-07 as my first bike, the salesman tried to sell me an FZ-09. I laughed at him, told him no way in hell, and went to another dealership. Got an FZ-07 the same day. Thank god for motorcycle reviewers, they helped me make an informed choice before I went to the dealer.
If he dyed his hair he’d be more unrecognizable. That disguise didn’t fool anyone.
Those new pod rear fenders hurt my eyes. Look like snail eyes on a broom handle.
Dyed - color change
Died - dead as a door nail!
Salesmen after watching this: GUYS THE STORM IS COMING WE HAVE TO BRACE FOR IMPACT WE MIGHT GET HIT BY THUNDER!!!!!!!!
I love the blatantly fake hair - I'm sure the dealers were thinking "Is this guy bald and in denial or something?"
Still blown away by people that say “ eh I’m just gonna start out on a little r6 or something like that” make no mistake about it 600cc sport bikes are still crazy fast. At the same time they will all go slow. It’s tough for people starting out, they don’t want to buy a smaller bike that doesn’t hold value and they don’t realize how much potential even the smaller sport bikes have, especially in the twisties.
First Street bike was rebel 250. I learned about the gravel that builds up in turning lanes. The painted lines can be slippery especially when wet. And grass. Also at red lights the oil and other fluids build up so when you stop you don't want to put yourself in a position to put your foot down in the fluid build up because your foot will slide out and you will drop your bike. They should teach all this at the omv. Great video. Thanks for sharing