I will be going back to my enclave job on Wednesday, June 21st I will be working on Wednesdays and Thursdays from. Noon to 3 p.m. I will be working a total of 12 hours per pay period. The minimum wage in Portland Oregon, where my job is located. Is $14.75 per hour. Starting July 1st, the minimum wage will increase to $15.45 per hour. I’m looking forward to working at my enclave job. I’m against sheltered workshops, due to the fact that people with disabilities are being segregated and paid little than 3 cents per hour. People who work in sheltered workshops can’t afford vacations, like I can. I’ve been on so many vacations. I live at Haven Center of Oregon, a privately owned and run group home. Haven Center has 14 homes. Oregon closed all of its sheltered workshops and has transitioned to competitive employment. People with disabilities are stuck at dead end sheltered workshops. 3 cents per hour is NOT THE ANSWER!! Minimum wage ($15.45 per hour) is the answer
I used to be at a sheltered workshop at Block Institute in the late 80s. 30 years later I am working as an administrative assistant after being outside of employment in three different jobs . We need more disabled people who are able to meet quotas as well as their lives on their own and can improve the occupation of their environment.
Hi, I also worked in a supported work environment back in 2013, and I can honestly say that it simply was not the right fit for me. Now, the place where I worked was not called a sheltered workshop, it was called an enclave. The tasks they were having me do there were not even close to being challenging enough for me, there was not enough variation my tasks there, and there were not enough opportunities for me to move around. I left the enclave after a few months, because I found out about an internship program for people with disabilities, and I thought that might be a better fit (which it was). Now that I am working in a mainstream setting, I am finding that the place where I am working now is a better fit for me.
@@darlenegoodwin6467 Hi, I will be clear that I am not advocating for subminimum wages or segregation of people with additional needs. What I am advocating for is RIGHTS. Everybody should have the right to be employed in a work environment that best suits their needs. I realize that some people might function better in a work environment where everybody can stick to the same tasks, but I obviously need more variation in my tasks. I understand that some people function better in an employment setting where everybody can stay in one place, but I also know that I function better in a setting where I can be moving around constantly. I know that some people prefer to do simpler tasks while they are at work, but I obviously need and want more physically or mentally challenging tasks.
@@leannestrong1000 I do understand. That goes for me too. When I was an administrative assistant I did move around too. We need to move around at our jobs to be more flexible and efficient.
@@darlenegoodwin6467 That is what I am saying. Everyone should be allowed to work in an environment that best meets their needs. While I do feel that sheltered workshops should have been allowed to stay open, they should have been reserved mostly for individuals who, despite receiving reasonable accommodations, find it too difficult to function in a mainstream employment setting, or even in a mixed employment setting. And if they did keep sheltered workshops open, they should have tailored the workday toward the needs of each individual employee. If I were running a special work setting, I would make it so that each employee could move around as much or as little as they needed or wanted. I would allow each employee to take on as many or as few tasks as they wanted or needed. If an employee prefers to stick to one or two repetitive tasks, I would allow that, but if an employee prefers to perform a variety of different tasks, I would allow for that as well. I would also make it so that the tasks assigned to each employee were as simple or as challenging as they needed or wanted. Another thing I might try is allowing some employees (especially those who have expressed an interest in working with people) to work with my customers, such as receiving deliveries for materials, answering phone calls from contracting companies, or distributing orders.
"What if they can't succeed in competitive employment?" First, I try to use the word, "can't," as little as possible. We should never place limits on what someone can or can't do, regardless of whether or not they have a disability, because we never know if they are going to exceed those limits. I prefer to use phrases such as, "very difficult," in place of, "can't," whenever possible. Second, you have a point about keeping these kinds of workshops open, because even people with disabilities need to be given a chance to prove that they too can be productive members of society. However, I would try to use sheltered workshops only as a last resort, and reserve them mainly for people who would have great difficulty functioning in a mainstream employment setting. I have a very mild form of Autism (it used to be called Asperger Syndrome), and several years back, I worked in a special workshop for a few months, before starting a special internship program at a local hospital. Not only did I not find the work I was doing at the workshop challenging enough, it was even mind numbing. However, there are some people with disabilities who would find a sheltered workshop challenging, but not overwhelming.
I get the need for these places for people with disabilities especially considering their needs for supported employment & peer support with other people with disabilities. But the problem I see is the Sub minimum wage paychecks that people with disabilities make. I understand that maybe due to some people with disabilities this ok. But for a highly functional disabled people that live out in the community who want to work, pay their own bills, have a family. Due to the disability stigmas that mainstream employment has towards people with disabilities in hiring & the difference in payscale that disabled employees get vs the non disabled workers. Often times too if a disabled person makes over a certain amount. Their SSI/SSDI gets cut as well. I'm glad these places help people with disabilities have a meaningful job. But it's appalling that a person with a disability. Gets substandard wages. Because of their proformance due to their disabilities. How would U feel making only $ 2.00 hr. How do U think U can pay 4 Ur basic needs : rent utilities food clothing transportation & what if U had a family how does making $ 2.00 an HR provide for their needs as well? How is having a job that only pays sub minimum wage giving U any type of self worth & self dignity? Yea there's some disabled people use these services as a support network to get out of their homes & group homes giving the family members & other care givers a much needed break. That's Kool. But as a non disabled person do U feel U can live on $2.00 per HR providing 4 Ur families knowing what everything costs & are constantly rising. I'm sure the rate of pay that they don't get is going for the company s profit margins as well as towards the other non disabled staff members that make far beyond what their disabled coworker s make at the same company. Yes it's also a tragedy that most traditional place s of employment. Only hire a very small percentage of employees with disabilities. But it's a far cry from not having a job being institutionalized in a group home or in families home. As it was said in this video. But. We still have a long way to go to become truly equal with our non disabled counterparts/ coworkers in our society s workforce etc
It’s not for the armed forces it is just for the disabled to gain employment that they are able to do they literally just clean stuff and put things away very simple tasks.
The lady's face at 2:09, as if to say, "um..... excuse me?! That's rude!"
Subminimum wages are very unfair
*sheltered workshops pay as low as 2 cents per hour!*
I will be going back to my enclave job on Wednesday, June 21st I will be working on Wednesdays and Thursdays from. Noon to 3 p.m. I will be working a total of 12 hours per pay period. The minimum wage in Portland Oregon, where my job is located. Is $14.75 per hour. Starting July 1st, the minimum wage will increase to $15.45 per hour. I’m looking forward to working at my enclave job. I’m against sheltered workshops, due to the fact that people with disabilities are being segregated and paid little than 3 cents per hour. People who work in sheltered workshops can’t afford vacations, like I can. I’ve been on so many vacations. I live at Haven Center of Oregon, a privately owned and run group home. Haven Center has 14 homes. Oregon closed all of its sheltered workshops and has transitioned to competitive employment. People with disabilities are stuck at dead end sheltered workshops. 3 cents per hour is NOT THE ANSWER!! Minimum wage ($15.45 per hour) is the answer
I used to be at a sheltered workshop at Block Institute in the late 80s. 30 years later I am working as an administrative assistant after being outside of employment in three different jobs . We need more disabled people who are able to meet quotas as well as their lives on their own and can improve the occupation of their environment.
Hi, I also worked in a supported work environment back in 2013, and I can honestly say that it simply was not the right fit for me.
Now, the place where I worked was not called a sheltered workshop, it was called an enclave. The tasks they were having me do there were not even close to being challenging enough for me, there was not enough variation my tasks there, and there were not enough opportunities for me to move around. I left the enclave after a few months, because I found out about an internship program for people with disabilities, and I thought that might be a better fit (which it was). Now that I am working in a mainstream setting, I am finding that the place where I am working now is a better fit for me.
@@leannestrong1000 good for you! Unfortunately not due to COVID I am no longer with Block Institute as an administrative assistant after two years.
@@darlenegoodwin6467 Hi, I will be clear that I am not advocating for subminimum wages or segregation of people with additional needs. What I am advocating for is RIGHTS. Everybody should have the right to be employed in a work environment that best suits their needs. I realize that some people might function better in a work environment where everybody can stick to the same tasks, but I obviously need more variation in my tasks. I understand that some people function better in an employment setting where everybody can stay in one place, but I also know that I function better in a setting where I can be moving around constantly. I know that some people prefer to do simpler tasks while they are at work, but I obviously need and want more physically or mentally challenging tasks.
@@leannestrong1000 I do understand. That goes for me too. When I was an administrative assistant I did move around too. We need to move around at our jobs to be more flexible and efficient.
@@darlenegoodwin6467 That is what I am saying. Everyone should be allowed to work in an environment that best meets their needs. While I do feel that sheltered workshops should have been allowed to stay open, they should have been reserved mostly for individuals who, despite receiving reasonable accommodations, find it too difficult to function in a mainstream employment setting, or even in a mixed employment setting. And if they did keep sheltered workshops open, they should have tailored the workday toward the needs of each individual employee. If I were running a special work setting, I would make it so that each employee could move around as much or as little as they needed or wanted. I would allow each employee to take on as many or as few tasks as they wanted or needed. If an employee prefers to stick to one or two repetitive tasks, I would allow that, but if an employee prefers to perform a variety of different tasks, I would allow for that as well. I would also make it so that the tasks assigned to each employee were as simple or as challenging as they needed or wanted. Another thing I might try is allowing some employees (especially those who have expressed an interest in working with people) to work with my customers, such as receiving deliveries for materials, answering phone calls from contracting companies, or distributing orders.
Outstanding, balanced look at the reality of options for those with disabilities!
IntegraEd a lot of people I work with who have disability are fighting to shut these places down
I would like to work with you guys in the workshops in the future I would like to do what matt is doing
"What if they can't succeed in competitive employment?" First, I try to use the word, "can't," as little as possible. We should never place limits on what someone can or can't do, regardless of whether or not they have a disability, because we never know if they are going to exceed those limits. I prefer to use phrases such as, "very difficult," in place of, "can't," whenever possible.
Second, you have a point about keeping these kinds of workshops open, because even people with disabilities need to be given a chance to prove that they too can be productive members of society. However, I would try to use sheltered workshops only as a last resort, and reserve them mainly for people who would have great difficulty functioning in a mainstream employment setting. I have a very mild form of Autism (it used to be called Asperger Syndrome), and several years back, I worked in a special workshop for a few months, before starting a special internship program at a local hospital. Not only did I not find the work I was doing at the workshop challenging enough, it was even mind numbing. However, there are some people with disabilities who would find a sheltered workshop challenging, but not overwhelming.
Same as was stuck at one for years and I also have aspergers. I am now working as a cashier at cub and it’s a lot better
The lady's face at 2:10-2:11!
I get the need for these places for people with disabilities especially considering their needs for supported employment & peer support with other people with disabilities. But the problem I see is the Sub minimum wage paychecks that people with disabilities make. I understand that maybe due to some people with disabilities this ok. But for a highly functional disabled people that live out in the community who want to work, pay their own bills, have a family. Due to the disability stigmas that mainstream employment has towards people with disabilities in hiring & the difference in payscale that disabled employees get vs the non disabled workers. Often times too if a disabled person makes over a certain amount. Their SSI/SSDI gets cut as well. I'm glad these places help people with disabilities have a meaningful job. But it's appalling that a person with a disability. Gets substandard wages. Because of their proformance due to their disabilities. How would U feel making only $ 2.00 hr. How do U think U can pay 4 Ur basic needs : rent utilities food clothing transportation & what if U had a family how does making $ 2.00 an HR provide for their needs as well? How is having a job that only pays sub minimum wage giving U any type of self worth & self dignity?
Yea there's some disabled people use these services as a support network to get out of their homes & group homes giving the family members & other care givers a much needed break. That's Kool. But as a non disabled person do U feel U can live on $2.00 per HR providing 4 Ur families knowing what everything costs & are constantly rising. I'm sure the rate of pay that they don't get is going for the company s profit margins as well as towards the other non disabled staff members that make far beyond what their disabled coworker s make at the same company. Yes it's also a tragedy that most traditional place s of employment. Only hire a very small percentage of employees with disabilities. But it's a far cry from not having a job being institutionalized in a group home or in families home. As it was said in this video. But. We still have a long way to go to become truly equal with our non disabled counterparts/ coworkers in our society s workforce etc
I am Hong Kong Chinese!!!!! I work in sheltered workshop and I have illusion and little bit autism!!!!!
I like people who are disabilities , little kid and animals because all of them are cute!!!!!
Actual slaves were paid better than this
It seems like these people are being exploited.
That’s ridiculous. .
people who are disabilities are cute in my opinion!!!!!!
Lol Brenda's face it's funny
All sheltered workshops should be burned down and outlawed as there are no disbaled people who should be put in the armed forces!!!!!
It’s not for the armed forces it is just for the disabled to gain employment that they are able to do they literally just clean stuff and put things away very simple tasks.