Forget spaceships, I just want my music

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  • @truenetgmx
    @truenetgmx Рік тому +4034

    "Piracy is service problem" as once wise man Gabe said.

    • @samuelt321
      @samuelt321 Рік тому +67

      Eh, so he isn't wise any more? 😛

    • @jovialcupid9687
      @jovialcupid9687 Рік тому

      so u own games u buy on steam?
      I know they are almost screaming that U PURCHASE THIS, to assure u about it but read their rules. U own shit there and this is not new. I just google it and u can find 2013 posts about steam stealing your stuff

    • @truenetgmx
      @truenetgmx Рік тому +41

      @@jimvonmoon yes, this is why most of my games are from gog.

    • @truenetgmx
      @truenetgmx Рік тому +63

      @@samuelt321 sorry, my inner yoda messed up word order :) my steamdeck is telling my he is still wise :P

    • @lbgstzockt8493
      @lbgstzockt8493 Рік тому +148

      That is true, however steam doesn't have a history of being as greedy and anti-consumer as possible, so there is a lot more trust with them. Sony has done a lot of very shitty things to keep them and other "rights holders" at the top of the food chain when it comes to DRM, so people are much more suspicious of anything they do.@@jimvonmoon

  • @lasbrujazz
    @lasbrujazz Рік тому +1399

    “And in the case of ‘Oppenheimer,’ we put a lot of care and attention into the Blu-ray version… and trying to translate the photography and the sound, putting that into the digital realm with a version you can buy and own at home and put on a shelf so *no evil streaming service can come steal it from you.”*
    - Christopher Nolan

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +103

      Nolan has been on that train for a while

    • @swlak516
      @swlak516 Рік тому +36

      LOVE Nolan.

    • @lasbrujazz
      @lasbrujazz Рік тому +79

      @@marcogenovesi8570 yep, just wanna reiterate that physical copy is still superior than digital copy, be it a movie or a music album.

    • @lostsauce0
      @lostsauce0 Рік тому +29

      This just made me an immediate Christopher Nolan fan. I'd literally buy a blu ray copy just for that statement alone.

    • @lyianx
      @lyianx Рік тому +8

      I havent seen that movie.. but if that is true, then this makes me want to go and buy that blu-ray version of it.

  • @eldibs
    @eldibs Рік тому +1546

    These big companies have forgotten they aren't competing with each other, they're competing with piracy, and piracy has gotten extremely convenient.

    • @Those2menoverthere
      @Those2menoverthere Рік тому +68

      They’re competing with themselves (meaning like Netflix is competing with itself) because they themselves cause piracy (more-so). If these offer proper services it would be hardly an issue. For example, Netflix no longer allows the user to choose what quality to stream in, instead you get forced to some shitty 1080p stream with a horrible looking bitrate if you’re on a non-4K proprietary piece of hardware. I’ll keep the comment short, so that’s just one gripe about the service…

    • @Lowmandavis
      @Lowmandavis Рік тому +27

      @@Those2menovertherehow is 1080p shitty?

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 Рік тому +6

      I feel like they know that they can't defeat piracy.
      A billion dollar campaign against piracy happens to be a good taxwrite off though.

    • @GarageDinner
      @GarageDinner Рік тому +19

      ​@@Lowmandavis ya, imagine living in an age where 1080p is considered shitty.

    • @GirlWhoCriedAardvark
      @GirlWhoCriedAardvark Рік тому +42

      @@Lowmandavis Probably not the resolution per-se but that the content has had the bits compressed out of it.

  • @leleobhz
    @leleobhz Рік тому +1065

    Piracy already is and will continue to be the best Digital Archaeology tool.
    This tell us a lot about how we conduct our society.

    • @zyansheep
      @zyansheep Рік тому +19

      Capitalism imirite

    • @o00nemesis00o
      @o00nemesis00o Рік тому +26

      @@zyansheep yeah the personal mp3 libraries of ordinary citizens were simply booming in feudalism, absolute monarchy, fascism and communism.

    • @transecho
      @transecho Рік тому +40

      ​@@o00nemesis00oi still remember playing "top X hits to play while dying from the bubonic plague" in 1348.

    • @Simon-xi7lb
      @Simon-xi7lb Рік тому +33

      ​@@o00nemesis00ocapitalism stans are so bizarre 🤦‍♀️

    • @onechessdude
      @onechessdude Рік тому +15

      @@o00nemesis00o Capitalism isn't a form of government, democracy is. Capitalism is an economic system. So you're comment is invalid.

  • @jasonscherer2631
    @jasonscherer2631 Рік тому +2667

    This is why Physical media is starting to come back for a lot of people. We all wanted a long time ago to get things a la carte, but this is not how we wanted it. It also why piracy becoming a bigger thing AGAIN.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +581

      I honestly thought back when Steve Jobs announced DRM-free MP3s were for sale on iTunes, the rest of the media world would start to turn over too...
      But once he died, it seems like that whole concept got buried.

    • @GoldenAdhesive
      @GoldenAdhesive Рік тому +120

      Digital is fine but you need to have full rights to download and use how you see fit

    • @edwardallenthree
      @edwardallenthree Рік тому +46

      One other aspect: when my dad passed, his record collection became especially poignant to me.

    • @dave7244
      @dave7244 Рік тому +69

      ​@@JeffGeerling These companies have no-incentive to offer anything DRM free, so they won't. The majority of people don't care about the issues of digital ownership, preservation or consumer rights etc and they are fully aware of that.

    • @skylark.kraken
      @skylark.kraken Рік тому

      I envy those who can use physical media. I am someone who this past year listened to 3'500 artist and many of which don't have physical media but if I were to buy an album from each I don't have over 35k spare. I listen to so many because every song has a limited number of listens (between 1 and 40, until I don't want to hear it again) so buying music just does not work for me no matter how much people who hate streaming services tell me to, my music experience is perfect for streaming. People who have Spotify just to listen to a few artists should just consider buying the music

  • @kevinbryer2425
    @kevinbryer2425 Рік тому +327

    I've always said that if "you don't hold it, you don't own it". But I'm going to have to add "If buying isn't owning, the piracy isn't stealing" into rotation.

    • @Valoric
      @Valoric Рік тому +13

      Yeah. That should be etched into a tablet.

    • @juanblanco7898
      @juanblanco7898 Рік тому +10

      Especially since it's more like "even if you hold it, you still don't own it" at this point.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому +3

      @@juanblanco7898 The MAGIC of DRM, it bumfucks us all

  • @aocuong9874
    @aocuong9874 Рік тому +333

    I often collect video games and I don’t like how digital ownership works for video games nowadays. I remember reading on reddit how some ubisoft users lost their games from their library for not logging in for a while. EA banned a player from all their games for saying one swear word on Apex Legend by mistake. And some games make you pay $60 and still need internet connection to play solo. If the server is down, you can’t play the game you bought.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +101

      Yeah, at least songs aren't programmed in a way that they can't be read out if Sony or WMG's server is offline! (Yet.)

    • @AntonioNoack
      @AntonioNoack Рік тому +5

      ​@@hillppari Please don't just post a link without any context.
      GOG is bad in regards to missing family sharing completely, Cyberpunk is good in regards to having no copy-protection (so my sister still could play it on her PC).

    • @jimster1111
      @jimster1111 Рік тому

      wait until they start using proprietary codecs where you have to maintain a subscription to playback that codec@@JeffGeerling

    • @whohan779
      @whohan779 Рік тому +19

      @@AntonioNoack Dafuq did I just read? Afaik Steam doesn't let you play multiple instances of the same game (especially on multiple machines) no matter what (unless at most one is online & no bypassing is happening at least). It literally boots you out from all but the last opened when it notices. GoG literally doesn't require a login other than to purchase, download or for some multiplayer or progression. Literally the entirety of humankind can play any game an account owns simultaneously w/o cracking or illegally distributing (unless they suspect unlawful conduct & temporarily prevent downloading that is).
      How would you imagine family sharing working on GoG?

    • @AntonioNoack
      @AntonioNoack Рік тому

      ​@@whohan779 "unless at most one is online"
      That's fine with me. Only one family member can play that game at a certain time.
      "How would you imagine family sharing working on GoG?" I'd imagine it works like it does on Steam.
      Each account has their own saves.

  • @Scriven42
    @Scriven42 Рік тому +56

    Hey, Hey, remember when Sony put a root kit onto their CDs to try and stop piracy...

  • @cheweh842
    @cheweh842 Рік тому +589

    it's easy to miss how many songs/movies/shows used to be available on the internet and have since disappeared if you *aren't* a datahoarder. if you have old stuff saved, or at least have references to older videos (especially Japanese ones), and try to find them again today, you'll quickly come to the depressing realization that "nothing is ever deleted off the internet" is dead. the best you can do is to put aside some disk space and seed.

    • @evilgremlin
      @evilgremlin Рік тому

      There are "archivist" groups on torrent trackers. There is a lot of stuff (shows, movies, books, press, music) that do not exist anywhere else at all. People digitize old records ot 16mm films and bunch of gazettes from 1880s they had layiing around. If some stuff gets "deleted from internet" - likely because it's not really worth keeping.

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn Рік тому +56

      "Where they burn books, they will also burn people."
      In modern times internet videos and music is what books were when this quote was made.
      The end in nigh.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 Рік тому +66

      Given various copyright strikes are still going against Internet Archive itself until now, it is become more important for everyone to unite and fight together in data preservation support, both locally and globally

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +37

      That "nothing is ever deleted off the internet" has naver been true. Sites die off all the time. Where is your Myspace with the emo cringe images and soundtrack? GONE

    • @evilgremlin
      @evilgremlin Рік тому +3

      ​@@marcogenovesi8570 cringe emo myspace is literally trash. But typical examples of such things are being documented and preserved.

  • @gpturismo
    @gpturismo Рік тому +76

    My wife and friends kept asking me for years why I still bought CD's/DVDs/Blu-Rays and even music off of Band Camp. Now while watching Studio Ghibli movies in the theater my wife had an Ah-ha moment and said we need to finish our blu-ray collection of Ghibli movies because she would hate for them to disappear off of Hbo Max or even Amazon where we own them digitally. More people are coming around. I find it funny as retail stores are removing physical media, which I feel is more of a move by studios to enforce digital renting of media versus buying physical. Some media I want was never released to physical media or for download. Time to build a bigger NAS and sail the seven seas.

    • @jimtekkit
      @jimtekkit 11 місяців тому +2

      Couldn't agree more, I still buy optical media copies if I find movies or music I like. There's a lot of sentiment out there that "optical media is old and should be dead already" with the assumption that any technology that isn't cutting-edge is somehow a curse on society. As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. If optical media dies then the ownership of media dies with it. And everyone will be thrown into the streaming service hellscape of paid subscriptions, internet bandwidth limitations, content blocking, server shutdowns, link rot.....everything that destroys long-term media enjoyment.

  • @espi742
    @espi742 Рік тому +656

    Content licensing is my kryptonite, I live in a third world country and streaming services are just laughably bad. There is so much content its literally impossible to consume legally, piracy is very literally my only option.

    • @edwardallenthree
      @edwardallenthree Рік тому +40

      Artist deserve to be paid, but not everyone should have to pay to enjoy the art. Michelangelo deserved to be paid, but I shouldn't have to pay to look at a photo of David.
      I believe in compensating artists, I do it to the best of my ability, but art is for everyone, it is timeless, and it belongs to the world.

    • @PanoptesDreams
      @PanoptesDreams Рік тому +7

      It used to be like that in my country because the US would give us their stuff YEARS later so the whole country felt like it was 10 years behind culturally/relevantly. It wasn't until high-speed internet became common-place that we started catching up and America realized they can't just keep giving us stuff 2+ years later because people were just pirating everything.

    • @Nebula-qq8sg
      @Nebula-qq8sg Рік тому +17

      @@TheRealNullcallerToothere’s a difference between legal and moral. There’s no “legally imo”. That said, I think the entire idea of copyright for over a hundred years, and after everyone who worked on something’s death is ridiculous. I also think pirating media that you didn’t have the funds to pay for/ weren’t gonna pay for in the first place is fine morally.

    • @k.chriscaldwell4141
      @k.chriscaldwell4141 Рік тому +1

      And the cost, too. Due to rigged x-rates, content can cost an arm and a leg in other countries.

    • @kendrakirai
      @kendrakirai Рік тому +4

      Hel, I live in CANADA, and the streaming landscape is a goddamn nightmare. We just straight up don’t have Hulu, for example. Never have, probably never will. HBO Max? Nope. The services we do have are hacked to bits library wise, and if the shows ARE available, they’re spread over three other services instead of just one. The list goes on.

  • @faeranne
    @faeranne Рік тому +168

    I get not being able to "officially" support piracy, but I get the impression that, "unofficially", you don't look down on people who do. And given your line of work, that's probably the best you can offer without getting squashed out of existence. As someone who has lost a *massive* amount of media over the years to companies shutting down, I work hard to preserve what I can, and do what I can to make sure creators get the value they are owed. Thanks for being awesome about this.

    • @LeePrzy
      @LeePrzy Рік тому +5

      The reason I got the elgato capture card was to rip my own content, it lasts forever 😮 for 1 price

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому +1

      I honestly do the same. I keep backups of games that my friends online like to play in case the DRM or storefront screws em over. OFC it is a bit pointless, like with EA titles like Spore, which require EA servers with creatures to actually be playable

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 Рік тому

      ​@@JamesTDGI did buy a game recently on dvd. Man was I angry when the installer said... Activate on steam. I do not buy much games an often on Steam or play older stuff

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Рік тому

      @@JamesTDG Spore is absolutely 100% playable offline. Won't get any synced creatures from other people or put your own in the cloud, but the game in all it's functionality works.

  • @UNgineering
    @UNgineering Рік тому +386

    Louis Rossmann covered this issue on his channel as well.
    If you already paid for the content, then torrenting it isn't stealing, you're literally obtaining a copy of what you paid for.
    This is the utopia we live in: "you will own nothing and be happy".

    • @rikwisselink-bijker
      @rikwisselink-bijker Рік тому +84

      There was a Dutch court case years ago that concluded this. Even obtaining a copy from an 'evidently illegal source' was deemed the legal equivalent of a DVD rip. As long as you own a legally obtained copy and only use it for personal/home use, it's all totally fine.
      That is such a strong alignment between legally and morally right. It makes me proud to be Dutch. Now I just need to hope this doesn't get overturned (if it isn't already).

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn Рік тому +13

      @@rikwisselink-bijker As far as I know that verdict is not specifically Dutch, but its part of international copyrights system.
      You can always make or obtain a copy of something that you own, regardless of the source (even if source is illegal)

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy Рік тому +4

      @@rikwisselink-bijker Since this is a very significant, far-reaching issue (and has really got people riled), I wonder if the EU government will get involved.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +15

      @@hubertnnn there is no such thing as "international copyright system"

    • @re4zoon
      @re4zoon Рік тому +3

      @@rikwisselink-bijker my question here: how do you obtain a legal ownership of a netflix show? Your subscription is just renting, the show is not available anywhere else, so...
      You either lose access to it forever (let it be music, shows, etc) OR you pirate it illegally and watch it.

  • @3v068
    @3v068 Рік тому +155

    This is why, in my opinion, once you buy something digitally, the company must give you the raw file without DRM. It's ridiculous how broken the digital ownership landscape is.

    • @xEqualsRandom
      @xEqualsRandom Рік тому +10

      Thankfully buying iTunes music does this (but sadly not iTunes movies)

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому +14

      The point of DRM was to prevent distribution, and yet it fails to do this job, only acting to end up harming the honest consumer every time now.

  • @wkdpaul
    @wkdpaul Рік тому +232

    Companies not understanding WHY people love streaming services is the most frustrating thing ever. I didn't get rid of my $100/month cable service to then get the equivalent with streaming services ... I got rid of a few services last year and started getting blurays and ripping them to put them on my jellyfin server. Best decision ever!

    • @Fractal_32
      @Fractal_32 Рік тому +9

      Remember to make backups!

    • @joshuapatton675
      @joshuapatton675 Рік тому

      Are you a WKDU DJ?

    • @proxythe1337
      @proxythe1337 Рік тому +11

      They know exactly why people like streaming services, they don't care. This-quarter profits are all that matters.

    • @spaceecks1793
      @spaceecks1793 Рік тому +2

      at first streaming services seemed like the future, but then big media got to them and ruined them completely

    • @ffc2632
      @ffc2632 Рік тому +1

      They do understand, its just that they want money

  • @dastardlyexperiments
    @dastardlyexperiments Рік тому +36

    100% correct on all fronts. Let's get this right, massive collections of 'Art' will disappear if we leave it to greedy, faceless corporations to manage for us.
    "If Buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" ❤

  • @M0NK-P2P
    @M0NK-P2P Рік тому +514

    I want both. I want access and control of the things I buy (digital or otherwise), and I want spaceships to mars and more asteroid samples collected. Both I say!

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +98

      Maybe spaceships will help us reach a planet where a couple media companies control like 99% of all media distribution! :D

    • @AC9DJ
      @AC9DJ Рік тому

      @@JeffGeerlingor better yet the government controls everything.

    • @LEGnewTube
      @LEGnewTube Рік тому +1

      Hear hear!!

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 Рік тому +4

      i sail the high seas. i have countless backups of my personal legal music library and nobody can take it away from me

    • @mishkamcivor409
      @mishkamcivor409 Рік тому +4

      @@JeffGeerling honestly that sounds like what we have now? There aren't that many companies and the problem isn't the number of companies but the fact that they are driven by greed to the point they will not license any of their "intelectual property" to other streaming companies because they can make more money if they do it themselves

  • @yukimoe
    @yukimoe Рік тому +34

    Yeah, that's the thing, an artist can remove their songs from Spotify and Apple Music for various reasons, yet the listings stay there as if it's possible to get them again eventually or you have to move in another country to listen to them again... There is no difference between being unavailable for copyright reasons and being straight up removed, and that's just bad UX here, thanks to the large music labels, I guess.

    • @Saand1338
      @Saand1338 Рік тому +5

      As a mild counterpoint, straight up removing the listing isn't good UX either. Soundcloud does that, and when you've got thousands of songs saved it can be hard to remember the song/artist as all trace is removed. I'll listen to a playlist and notice when a song is *not* there, but not remember enough details to be able to find the song again.
      I've had to write custom software to track and archive my playlists there for when things disappear. Just in the last year alone I've had 4% of my library vanish.

    • @audguy
      @audguy Рік тому

      Part of it is so you can call the record label and bitch them out.

    • @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6
      @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6 Рік тому +2

      I don't agree with this assessment. I think it's good UX that the listing stays in your collection-it's much better to communicate and show you what is missing than for you to get no notice something in your library is gone. It also lets you know why, so you can choose if you want to do something about it. If they just deleted it from your playlists, half the time people wouldn't even notice it missing at first, and then would have zero ways to figure out where it went when they do.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      I've kept to downloading the music I like off of soundcloud, uploading it to my network, and playing it via winamp. It still whips the llama's ass@@Saand1338

  • @KeithConley
    @KeithConley Рік тому +36

    I hit up thrift shops often for my physical media collection. 99¢ for a music album and $1.99 for a movie. It's cheaper than renting.
    Since I retain the physical copy after I rip it and put it in my Plex server, it gets me by any qualms about piracy.
    You just have to inspect each disk to make sure it's in playable condition.

    • @urbanknish
      @urbanknish Рік тому +6

      And make sure the disc is actually in the case! :)

    • @lhpl
      @lhpl Рік тому +7

      In Denmark we have municipal recycling yards, you can bring anything, it'll get recycled (sold for scrap) or reused. You can also leave stuff for "immediate reuse", and take stuff from there as well. I have - completely for *free* !!! - built a fairly decent DVD collection over just a couple of years, a nice mix of old classics, more recent block-busters and award winners, and even a few not too common French art movies. I am sure we'll see a big war beteeen consumers and the film and music industry soon. We won the first battle, when compact cassette and VHS made recording possible, and mostly lost the digital battles, but with a few important victories. With their "services" they have secretly invaded the homes of us all, but now is the time to fight again. RIP in peace!

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      @@lhpl Honestly, the day they start suing the consumers is fast approaching, and it will be the optimal time to strike hard.

  • @capability-snob
    @capability-snob Рік тому +29

    Thank you for bringing more attention to this. Cory also pointed out that §1201 of the DMCA is "felony contempt of business model", which is how companies get away with it.
    This is a loophole that companies use to prevent uses of their product that they don't like: it criminalises working around any restriction they put on what you own.
    Don't live in the US? Doesn't matter. WIPO means we all get this law, whether we asked for it or not.

  • @philosoaper
    @philosoaper Рік тому +241

    as a Norwegian I'm like "even if this isn't geo locking, I'm glad you're getting fucked too"
    I often find entire artists missing or individual tracks on albums etc just greyed out... and this isn't a new issue either.. even back in the 80s I remember the extreme discrimination on movies for example... often being years late. Sure it wasn't that impactful then since we didn't have the internet...but it was there. The selection on streaming services is vastly different.. not just for music but movies, tv series and books are affected too. Games less so as most consoles are not region locked anymore. It's not uncommon to find some tv series you want to buy, but I just find it in stores where "we don't ship to your region" pops up... and while over there you at least could see tv series in the iTunes.. tv series was never even available in mine for rent or purchase.
    So when I hear people in the "industry" complain about piracy, my only reaction is "fuck off"...

    • @jonragnarsson
      @jonragnarsson Рік тому +37

      Remember Region Locking? And DVD players that only allowed switching regions a few times... Media companies really like to shoot themselves in the foot.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +14

      @@jonragnarsson I 'member. They think they are geniuses by demanding more money for a "regional exclusive", classic suit move

    • @pship855
      @pship855 Рік тому +4

      Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 I feel your pain

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Рік тому +4

      Agreed... It's even worse for legacy Japanese media...
      Especially those anime soundtrack from the older animes in the 2000s... Many are grey out like the video showed...

    • @olnnn
      @olnnn Рік тому +4

      Yeah, as a fellow Norwegian, it was kinda frustrating to get 24/7 bombed in your face about how awesome this new tv series or movie is that just came out is, that of course you don't get to watch yet because you don't live in the US so you have to wait for however many months until its released where you live. (Unless you pirated it of course) Thankfully it's not as bad these days here as it used to be but you still have to deal with a lot of geoblocking and availability on streaming services that vary widely depending on country (and VPNs don't really help all that much despite what all these youtube ads claim). Hell we can't even buy the Steam deck from Valve yet, only from grey marked imports... And I'm sure it's way worse if one is from a smaller country not in Europe.

  • @ProjSHiNKiROU
    @ProjSHiNKiROU Рік тому +30

    Imagine carrying a physical CD across the border and the customs/airport security says you can't take them out of your country

    • @20thCY
      @20thCY 11 місяців тому +1

      "Oh sorry, your CD is region locked"

  • @TheTimmaeh
    @TheTimmaeh Рік тому +284

    Recently went through a similar thing with Final Space, one of my favorite shows. It was removed from my Amazon library (where I paid for the whole show) and from streaming services, because Warner Bros decided to turn it into a tax write-off. Without a physical copy I wouldnt ever be able to legally watch that show again...

    • @NFMorley
      @NFMorley Рік тому +29

      It's also getting yanked from international Netflix catalogues imminently (well UK + Europe at least I know of) for the same reasons... I appreciate they're not ownership in the same sense, but it's infinitely stupid that any tax system exists where it's more financially viable to simply destroy content than allow it to live on, even with a small level of continuing royalty payments.

    • @niosem
      @niosem Рік тому +13

      🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

    • @jovialcupid9687
      @jovialcupid9687 Рік тому +15

      what was written when u bought this? Rent or buy? If buy then - at least in europe - u have full law to make copy of that.
      so just download it, u paid for this already

    • @MXTuber3000
      @MXTuber3000 Рік тому +2

      Not to mention shows that have had individual episodes pulled such as Workaholics.

    • @Neuzahnstein
      @Neuzahnstein Рік тому +28

      If a production get into tax write-off. Copyright should be vanished, because the compony dont want the production anyways.

  • @cloudskat3r
    @cloudskat3r Рік тому +2

    I JUST got into a band who’s music is available to stream everywhere, but not to buy anywhere. I found FLACs on a digital store but they won’t sell them to me in Canada or North America as a whole, but they will to my friend in Ireland. I’m just gonna get her to buy them all for me and pay her back, region licensing be darned.
    I’m not much of an audiophile but I am a preservationist, so having all the music I like in lossless is important to me. I’ve never subscribed to a streaming service because I’d rather own what I love so it can’t be pulled away from me at any point. Screw streaming, let us own our music and movies and whatnot.

  • @piman13_71
    @piman13_71 Рік тому +62

    Before even watching I know what this is about and honestly why TF does region locking even exist anymore

    • @piman13_71
      @piman13_71 Рік тому +9

      Eh ok I was slightly wrong but I just stopped supporting these services either by not watching or using P2P “resources”

    • @touma-san91
      @touma-san91 Рік тому +3

      Your question does have to do with this too though as lot of piracy also happens due to that idiotic region locking. They claim it that it's due to licensing contracts, but they are the ones making the damn contracts anyway. Same with games like Forza Horizon 3 for example. Can't obtain it at all anymore because some of the licensing deals ended.

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Рік тому +6

      Region locking is still a thing because TV broadcasters buy licenses to broadcast certain franchises. If those franchises are already on Netflix everywhere on day one, those licences become worthless. So it's usually part of the agreement to not have a show available on a streaming service until it has been broadcasted at least once. And if a broadcaster in a region is the only one allowed to broadcast a certain show, but don't bother with broadcasting it, the show may never become available in that region.
      So basically, it's because media producers want to be paid over and over for the same product.

    • @piman13_71
      @piman13_71 Рік тому +1

      @@CheapBastard1988 Yay dipping times 8 or so what a great system we live in.... also I agree with that user name :) lol

  • @JorgeALXNDR
    @JorgeALXNDR Рік тому +15

    I've always pirated stuff I could never afford but these situations makes pirating such a more satisfying adventure

  • @ignaciodicecco4917
    @ignaciodicecco4917 Рік тому +102

    Thanks Jeff for addressing this issue. It has been getting worse in the last couple of years. That made me decide to go to Plex and start buying CDs again and ripping them so they are "always" available for me. Also, it makes me much more selective on what spend my money. This seems to be the only alternative in this new "you don't own nothing" world we are living today.

    • @marcd6897
      @marcd6897 Рік тому +5

      💯

    • @tetsuo3k
      @tetsuo3k Рік тому +6

      I hear that! When Google decided to shut down its near perfect Play Music service in favor of the astoundingly bad UA-cam Music, I saw that as a wake up call. Went right back to buying CDs and ripping them.

    • @samuelhoward
      @samuelhoward Рік тому +3

      I never really stopped caring about physical media personally. Some of the music I like simply cannot be streamed. That combined with streamable content being removed and it just makes sense to archive. To that end, I've got about 2TB of music alone in Plex plus associated content. This whole streaming deal just seems to wax worse in pursuit of profit.

  • @VahaahTheKrab
    @VahaahTheKrab Рік тому +9

    "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" goes hard

  • @johngeib
    @johngeib Рік тому +113

    As long as a show has a DVD that can be bought, you might want to check with your local library. Most libraries these days have DVDs you can check out. What you do with them once you get them home is up to you though ;)

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +52

      Well another thing I've done before is purchase bulk library extras-they offload the 2nd/3rd copies they buy after a few months/years (depending on the show's popularity), and you can get them for pennies on the dollar a lot of times!

    • @MrHack4never
      @MrHack4never Рік тому +14

      @@JeffGeerling
      And if the disc stops behaving well, you could jump on to a legally grey website and grab a copy
      If anyone gets angry, just say that you are checking your own backup against a known good backup

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn Рік тому +5

      @@MrHack4never You can legally download any copyrighted content or make any copy for your own use (even from pirate sources) as long as you own a legal copy.

    • @lance_374
      @lance_374 Рік тому +7

      You can possibly rip the content for a local backup, but you can’t download it legally, it must just be from your own copy. I’m no lawyer, that’s just what I heard about this. I’m also not against any of this necessarily, just correcting misinformation.

    • @lance_374
      @lance_374 Рік тому +2

      I should add that this is in the U.S. If you live in a country that cares about consumer rights it is probably legal there.

  • @alis.2368
    @alis.2368 Рік тому +23

    Hey Jeff, I really love the fact that you raised this issue. I’ve been working on a (legal) solution to this problem. However, I find it pretty difficult to point my focus on the whole digital media enterprise as there are so many legal nuances that pretty much make the whole “purchasing digital media” go against any consumer. Jellyfin is good and Navidrome (for music) is even better and since I want to put my focus on creating an actual open source license manager I’d really love to hear what you might think of my idea if you ever want to have a small conversation about this topic

  • @gavinchriss1513
    @gavinchriss1513 Рік тому +68

    the past couple of years I have been trying to get all my favourite shows on my plex server for this reason, I hate paying for multiple streaming services when they can remove my favourite show for whatever reason. I am glad you talked about this, and I want to see it get talked about more!

    • @fookingsog
      @fookingsog Рік тому

      Have you tried PlexAmp for music???🤔

    • @AndrewGriffinSD
      @AndrewGriffinSD Рік тому +5

      I had a movie taken away. Am I spending an excessive amount of money to keep all my stuff? Probably. But fuck relying on streaming services, especially with how convenient Plex and similar media services have gotten.

    • @OrangeRAZ
      @OrangeRAZ Рік тому

      same thing here, except i also try to download anything i may watch that has already ended production, so that in case it disappears i can still have the opportunity to watch it

    • @audas
      @audas Рік тому

      Stop using plex then. Jelly Fin.

    • @fookingsog
      @fookingsog Рік тому +1

      @audas huh? Read again what you just wrote. As far as I can tell, everyone in this immediate thread is FOR using PLEX Server. No mention of "for" or "against" "JellyFin" has been made in this immediate thread. Check the context!!!😬

  • @davecgriffith
    @davecgriffith Рік тому +15

    Another thing that's frustrating with streaming is gift giving.
    A friend was traveling and I wanted to get them some movies/shows that are set in the city they were traveling to.
    I ultimately gave up on the idea after much frustration, which sucked.
    I really miss physical media!

  • @lawrenceplays
    @lawrenceplays Рік тому +65

    I remember maybe a decade ago that the KLF discography wasn't available anywhere, so i had to go and buy a used CD of it all because the band decided they wanted to delete their WHOLE back catalog. God i hate streaming platforms.

    • @DJ-Daz
      @DJ-Daz Рік тому +8

      That was an "artistic" decision, like burning the £1,000,000

    • @shanent5793
      @shanent5793 Рік тому +4

      So much for "Kopyright Liberation"

    • @framegrace1
      @framegrace1 Рік тому +3

      Well. KLF, what did you expect...

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 Рік тому

      Alot of music would be lost media without piracy. Theres alot of punk, industrial and gothic that hasnt been repressed on cd or vinyl since more than 2 decades. None of it is on streaming either.

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 Рік тому

      OMG I just remembered I have the "Justified and Ancient" CD single in a desk drawer in my bedroom, and the cassette single in a box in my basement.
      "Mu Mu Land, Mu Mu Land, All bound for Mu Mu Land..."

  • @pship855
    @pship855 Рік тому +8

    Welcome to Australia Jeff 😊
    Lots of content isn’t even available on any service - then they call us “the biggest pirates in the world” when all we want to do is watch or listen to their stuff 🤷‍♂️

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Рік тому +25

    We all know Jeff's guilty pleasure is Baby Shark do doo dooo doo do

  • @alexlovett1991
    @alexlovett1991 Рік тому +13

    I used to work on DRM for a large tv streaming platform in the UK. It was infuriating the amount of ‘business requirements’ that just straight up made things worse for customers and made the system overall more complex than required.
    Funny thing is, these extra paywalled features ended up getting very little subscriptions. (Think cable companies charging for a second set top box in another room)

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      Lol, I remember my satelite provider forcing us to pay extra to record more things at once.

  • @GodmanchesterGoblin
    @GodmanchesterGoblin Рік тому +9

    And this is why I still buy CDs and Blu-rays and put the extracted content on my server. And it's not just streaming services pulling the content just because it suits them - sometimes the streamed version is not complete, or missing features, and for some artists there are no streaming options accessible to me (some SE Asian artists in my case).

  • @ampex189
    @ampex189 Рік тому +1

    Welcome to how things are outside of the US, those "Not available in your country" notices are really common, even up here in the great white north.

  • @C_M_R
    @C_M_R Рік тому +4

    I always tell my co-worker who only buys digital movies: you don't know those movies, you are just buying a license to view them.

  • @zero0ryn
    @zero0ryn Рік тому +2

    I'm totally with you there Jeff. Over here in the UK the main subscription TV provider is Sky TV in their store they usually have the option that if you buy a movie in their store for a couple of extra pounds they will send you a bluray copy. Its a no frills copy with just the move and no extras, but at least you get to keep the copy.

  • @DionMunk
    @DionMunk Рік тому +9

    Spot on! I would much prefer to pay monthly for access to all of my content and not have to host and manage a server and hardware, but nothing provides the content the way I want. So I, like you, host it myself on my NAS, and I couldn't be happier.

  • @beszt95
    @beszt95 Рік тому +1

    It even gives me this message with music I downloaded the MP3 of, not even on the iTunes store!! At least I rarely use my old iPhone SE for playing music, but even still it's really annoying.

  • @t3chninja_official
    @t3chninja_official Рік тому +6

    Honestly this is why I still love physical media plus purchasing MP3s to download. I have complete control over my music still to this day. I use Media Monkey on all my devices and pay for the sync part so I can have them on my phone. Best thing I ever did period for my music.

  • @BobTravellin
    @BobTravellin Рік тому +1

    Last month, I spent some time in hospital. I took my mobile phone with me, on which I had something like 125 albums, most of them ripped from CDs but with a handful of purchased downloads, stored on the SD Card. I also downloaded the Spotify app so I could get at some favourite playlists on my account that I listen to on my laptop. After the surgery, to cheer myself up, I opened the Music Library on my SD card (phone) to listen to something.......not a single piece of music there. The entire Library, a week's worth plus of music that I've been carrying around and listening to for a good 10 years, has disappeared. I Deleted the Spotify app (since its addition was the only change I had made to my phone) but the Library is still missing. I am absolutely furious about it, but I have no idea what has happened nor who to contact!

  • @AlexTheStampede
    @AlexTheStampede Рік тому +5

    A service I used announced it would shutdown, and it would suck as I bought things on it. Then I found out a possible way to… have a local, drm free copy of the original files. I’m sad a service giving access to otherwise not available content has gone away, but as it was the only way to get said content legally? Not bothered by my workaround.

  • @kennethdarlington
    @kennethdarlington Рік тому +1

    Every landlord's dream: "I'm renting. So it's not I have a right to anything" (c) Jeef Geerling

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 Рік тому +4

    Piracy is a human right.

  • @gtabro1337
    @gtabro1337 Рік тому +1

    Reasons I buy a lot of my favourite music and have mp3/WAVs on a hard drive:

  • @swlak516
    @swlak516 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for speaking out on this. Media preservation is so important. I have been buying more physical media than ever lately.

  • @DrDestructoBlade
    @DrDestructoBlade Рік тому +1

    Dude I think this is the first video that feels actually conversational. it feels relatable getting mad about shows not being available, songs being gone etc.

  • @zambonidriver42
    @zambonidriver42 Рік тому +102

    I wanted to expose my kids to music that my parents played when I was little.
    Johnny Cash, the Beatles, Elton John, Elvis, etc.
    And they loved it. I’d mix in their stuff too.
    When my kids and their friends would bicker in the back seat, I’d let it go for a bit, boys will be boys, but rather then yell at them to stop, I’d quietly change to Andrea Bocelli, singing opera arias. “Dad! What is this? It’s HORRIBLE! It makes our ears hurt!”
    So funny. I’d respond, “I’d rather listen to opera than bickering.”
    And then, one day, “Dad, play that Funicula song!”
    And that was the day I knew I’d accomplished something.
    Later, when they were older, Led Zeppelin, Boston, Pink Floyd. The Eagles - Seven Bridges Road. Everyone would sing.

    • @LewisDonofrio
      @LewisDonofrio Рік тому +8

      My 3 year old goes "ha, ha, ha, staying alive...."

    • @Gunstick
      @Gunstick Рік тому +2

      indeed, there has been enough music produced until now that we don't need the media-less music productions of today.

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 Рік тому

      ​@@Gunstick Everyone I listen to still has phsyical releases for new releases, both CD and Vinyl usually.
      Some of them even basically run a website like mailorders worked back in the 80s and 90s.
      Just now its more acessible and safer than back then, so you don't easily get restricted to top 40s music that major labels demand you listen to.
      Its just the major labels trying to turn the most corporate and stale stuff in existance (aka the top 40s) into a live service. I wouldnt even know the names of the artists, considering I intentionally avoided listening to the radio for more than a decade by now. No point in that when I can listen to actually interesting music I like that is relatable to me instead.

  • @antenna8836
    @antenna8836 Рік тому +2

    I moved to Bandcamp for most of my music purposes after I realized "Hey, I can buy a song from an artist, support them directly, and get a copy nobody can take from me."
    I'm glad that I have a place to do this, but it feels weird that the last part is a consideration. I get they make more on streaming services, but I don't like renting out something like that.

  • @8_Bit_Bear
    @8_Bit_Bear Рік тому +8

    I never switched to streaming services for my music. It sucks that I can't discover new songs as easily, but I'd rather have my library on demand rather than hope that I have a good signal and listen to my music.

    • @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6
      @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6 Рік тому

      For what it's worth, all streaming platforms have offline mode. You can download content to listen to without an internet connection.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      Heh, I honestly just rely upon recommendations, pull up the artist's page, and if it is outside the 18th century copyright terms, I'll pirate the music, if it is less than 15 years and I'll consider seeing if there are any physicals being sold by the artist that I can rip, but chances are I'll opt to just find an unofficial upload and just download that. I ain't giving Michael Jackson's family a dime if I wanna listen to thriller just once

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      EHHHHHH, that is iffy at best. Louis Rossmann covered it in one of his videos before, where even though he DOWNLOADED THE FILE, because he had no internet in the middle of nowhere, he could not listen to it. @@mkEK9mp7mGRpr6

  • @serhiirudenko6183
    @serhiirudenko6183 Рік тому +1

    This is why I have all my music physically on SD card in my phone.

  • @LordBouli
    @LordBouli Рік тому +6

    I fully support you on this Jef. The big companies stealing things you already paid for. They are the criminals here!

  • @TheChris69er
    @TheChris69er Рік тому +2

    That is first class rant for the first world. I hope you somehow get access to the ladybug tunes your kids love .We are definitely at the mercy of big cooperations when it comes to these sort of issues

  • @sickbozzer
    @sickbozzer Рік тому +3

    I had that exact same issue with the original Chris Moyles’ parody album, so I found my old iPod that had all the songs, used some iPod-music-ripping software called sharepod and manually added it to my library on Apple Music. I honestly give up with streaming services and am probably buy a new denon amp or turntable.

  • @nillieable
    @nillieable Рік тому

    So I went to the grocery shop and bought a packet of bread. The shopkeeper told me that he will keep the packet of bread for me and I can take one out of it when I need it.
    He is so considerate.

  • @AdamKirbyMusic
    @AdamKirbyMusic Рік тому +5

    It's interesting because i ripped my CD collection 15 years ago and have ALWAYS bought mp3 albums since then. I've completely ignored the music streaming trend even though this approach makes me a dinosaur. But even normies are discovering the downsides of a world where you don't have the content in your control.

    • @xeong5
      @xeong5 Рік тому +1

      This man said mp3. If it's not flac or another lossless medium than your wasting your money and time.

  • @LodanSD
    @LodanSD Рік тому +1

    When the creator of a show tells you to pirate his show, you know there's something wrong with the industry!
    RIP Infinity Train!

  • @drewswoods
    @drewswoods Рік тому +5

    With the exception of some game purchases, the only digital content that I pay for is music. DRM-free is the standard, and I feel reassured that my purchase can last in perpetuity so long as I take reasonable steps to maintain it. I'm living abroad now, and there are a ton of books and shows that I want to purchase, but the simple inability to easily transfer it out for back-ups or to use on other devices stops me. I've been screwed on digital purchases before. The exception for books is the occassional humblebundle that catches my eye.

    • @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6
      @mkEK9mp7mGRpr6 Рік тому

      It's not easy, but if you really want to own ebooks, a fair number of authors/publishers sell their ebooks without DRM. It will say so in the product description when you purchase. For example, a lot of TOR fantasy is sold without DRM, so your purchase gets you a .epub file that you can store wherever you like and can never be taken away from you. The product description will say something like, "At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied."

  • @titan90000
    @titan90000 Рік тому +3

    This is why I have 2043 CDs in my collection ATM. During the pandemic I realized that they way I was listening to music was terrible. Streaming Amazon Music through TV speakers is this what we have come to? We live in the day of Hi Def video but of low fi music with Bluetooth everything and low quality MP3s. I missed good sounding music. So I did research and I bought a good quality 2-Channel Amp, speakers, DAC, 5 disc CD changer and built a music streamer out of a Raspberry Pi 4 with a sperate hat and Volumio. I stream hi res music through Qobuz or flac files from my NAS(726GB worth) when I am feeling lazy. And break out the CDs in my 5 disc changer when I want to enjoy it more. I also have invested in a good portable headphone DAC and good in ear monitors to use with my phone when I am not home. Music and audio has now become a passion and hobby of mine. Be careful, it can become an expensive hobby very quickly.

  • @gingered
    @gingered Рік тому +3

    Very much appreciate this measured response to the way things have gone. I recall way back when Netflix and UA-cam were starting to gain popularity people would say they would pay for streaming rather than pirate because it was more conveniently offered, but things have gone the other way again and accessing the content you want has gotten harder. I've been backing up my movies for over a decade and as I got good deals on the content I enjoy I gradually dropped streaming services that dropped the content I watched, now I'm down to some "free with ads" stuff and Crunchyroll (because anime on Blu-ray is unreasonably priced for seasons and movies prices stay high for too long, if they ever come down).

  • @stevecruztube
    @stevecruztube Рік тому +5

    With my kids, it seems that the disapointments have taught them it's just not worth it. They don't listen to music and watch tv/movies like I did. And there's always another game to distract them. I don't listen or watch content like I use to. There's just too many hands trying to get into my pockets. I read alot and watch youtube (for now).

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth Рік тому +13

    I am definitely looking more into hosting TV shows and movies I like in a NAS server in my home. Jeff, can you please do some more videos on backup? You made an excellent one two years ago but I (and I'm sure many others) would appreciate some more tutorials and how-tos around home lab backup and restore procedures whenever your video schedule/workload allows. Thanks as always :)

  • @TerraMagnus
    @TerraMagnus Рік тому +7

    It’s also tough when you are paying for streaming services but struggle to find the content you want to watch. Some services like Netflix are notorious about NOT integrating fully with the set top box experience, so I can’t search for content that’s hosted by Netflix through my AppleTV search that covers literally all of my other apps.

    • @pauljefferies5837
      @pauljefferies5837 Рік тому

      I use an app called JustWatch for cross-platform search. Do Apple maybe charge a fee to be included in their search? JustWatch include them so I can't see how other services couldn't.

  • @allenellisdewitt
    @allenellisdewitt Рік тому +2

    "If I can't buy it, I can't steal it"

  • @topgamer7
    @topgamer7 Рік тому +4

    We need strong user rights for digital content purchases. I like the "if buying isn't ownership statement" a lot.

  • @selectionn
    @selectionn Рік тому +1

    shout out to the unspoken legends who upload pirated content
    Piracy is becoming more and more accepted by people, and I love to see it

  • @JanasV
    @JanasV Рік тому +4

    Recently encountered a similar thing with UA-cam Music, but this one's bizzare. When I'm on wifi - all my playlists play as intended, but when I'm on mobile data, on the same phone, in the same app - more than 50% of songs are greyed out and unavailable. This doesn't happen on UA-cam app directly. And I've seen forum posts of people having the same issue on random phone brands as far back as 5+ years ago. UA-cam support has not responded.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Рік тому +1

      It could be that the music you have is just video. The official music version is a lot more reliable as access goes... Many of the video on YT music have some sort restrictions due to copyright or just plain usage restrictions.

    • @JanasV
      @JanasV Рік тому

      Nope. Every song has a separate "song" and "video" option when on wifi, and most just aren't available at all on data. Also, all of the same songs played as expected, in all playlists, up until a certain point when they didn't anymore.@@PrograError

  • @in_ftw
    @in_ftw Рік тому +1

    Well said. A great video that's straight to the point. I can't stand a channel that stretches a concept like this into a 20 minute video.

  • @SomeoneBloodyRandom
    @SomeoneBloodyRandom Рік тому +8

    As for Ladybug music, it would be a shame if someone downloaded the 320meg APK file on to your computer, unzip'ed it (because the APK is just a zip file), and extracted all the MP3 files in the archive because they are not encrypted. Though that would only give access to Blue, Pink, Green, and Summer one collections (and some free songs too).
    It would also be a shame if someone decompiled the application and took a peek how it accesses the other collections.
    Don't to that, that would be very very naughty and santa wouldn't bring you any presents this year!

  • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
    @xXx_Regulus_xXx Рік тому +1

    as an uncle, the preamble about kids' music was genuinely helpful. my niece and nephew need some more variety in what they listen to, or at least I do when I'm watching them

  • @bobbiesterling574
    @bobbiesterling574 Рік тому +6

    im not a huge pirate; i do like to own physical copies of media and so far i havent run into all that much that i straight up cannot get physically, but like, if theres something i want, ima go get it. sometimes that means spending 30£ to import a 15 year old DVD from overseas, sometimes that means sailing those seven seas myself.

  • @Sythemn
    @Sythemn Рік тому +1

    This removing your access to stuff you paid for thing needs to be made retroactively illegal NOW....
    I haven't had it affect me yet, but it functionally theft by those corporations.
    And if I woke up to half my Steam library missing the end result would be me never paying for media again.... if you know what I mean.

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 Рік тому +20

    Yup, this is why I never "purchase" digital assets like movies and music. Unless they give you the raw file to keep. If you have to download their app to watch your purchased content. Then you don't own it. They can stop anytime and leave you hanging with no recourse. And likely says that in the TOS that they can stop providing you access at any time.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Рік тому

      They've done that to me before, and it shoved me down the path of piracy

  • @dingo23451
    @dingo23451 Рік тому +1

    And that's why you pirate everything. Without mercy. Every single time.

  • @ThePongles
    @ThePongles Рік тому +22

    I was here before the algorithm

  • @vectoralphaSec
    @vectoralphaSec Рік тому +1

    I 1000% fully accept and condone piracy/ stealing if that content is not available anywhere or if was previously paid for and then later removed.

  • @youruniquehandle2
    @youruniquehandle2 Рік тому +4

    I have my own home server hosting my ripped movie collection but it's getting harder to purchase physical media. Best buy announced they are going to stop selling blu-rays, and many shows I watch aren't available on physical media. I'm in my mid 30's and have NEVER pirated content but as streaming services multiply, the costs rise and the content gets removed from here and added there... the high seas are calling pretty loud.

    • @swlak516
      @swlak516 Рік тому

      (A friend of mine) Just stated pirating again for the first time in over 10 years… feels good!
      Get a VPN and join us!

  • @MrAdamo
    @MrAdamo Рік тому +1

    Its not “backwards thinking” execs. Its “profit motivated” execs. This is simply the best way to accrue money.

  • @TerryOlson
    @TerryOlson Рік тому +3

    I'm trying to transition back to buying physical media - the lack of ownership of something I pay money for is a huge concern.

  • @Daggenthal
    @Daggenthal Рік тому

    It's crazy that we read the same article "If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing" within the past few days; As you went on in the video, I was thinking about that exact article, and here you are talking about it!

  • @Dreamshadow1977
    @Dreamshadow1977 Рік тому +41

    I'd like to argue that some of the media disappearing is simply the end of contracts and business partnerships. The company has to remove it no matter what.
    But I do agree that it sucks that things are designed not to be owned but borrowed long term. I fear what will happen if Valve ever stops being a company and Steam ends service.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +81

      IMO they shouldn't be allowed to use the terms 'buy' or 'purchase' if they are loaning out content on the terms of a temporary contract. Instead you could either 'rent' or 'lease' content, maybe.

    • @Dreamshadow1977
      @Dreamshadow1977 Рік тому +21

      @@JeffGeerling Yes!!! The fact that they don't use those terms is a form of Marketing 'Art'. It's subtle and insidious.
      It's likely buried in that EULA or Purchase Terms we never read.

    • @mikefarrington7141
      @mikefarrington7141 Рік тому +18

      Such contracts should only restrict future sales, not content accessibility to those who have already purchased the content.

    • @megan_alnico
      @megan_alnico Рік тому

      I worry about that too since especially since Microsoft had a plan to buy Valve. Every time there's a sale I check out GOG to see if some game from my back library is super cheap. GOG purchases are DRM free.

    • @jonathanbuzzard1376
      @jonathanbuzzard1376 Рік тому +13

      If you are not going to be able to honor a paid for copy (rather than rented) then offering it is fraud.

  • @ElevatedCape255
    @ElevatedCape255 Рік тому

    I happened to purchase the guardians of the galaxy vol. 2 soundtrack on Apple Music a couple years back when I had a different phone. On this device all songs worked fine and could be used offline. When I upgraded to a newer phone, one of the songs, Mr. Blue Sky became unavailable, a song that I paid for, gone…

  • @RaquelFoster
    @RaquelFoster Рік тому +5

    Dealing with Warner and UMG is a lot of work for streaming services. Some smaller labels like The Orchard are even worse. The only way anybody gets access is by having an agreement which can be almost instantly revoked from any/all markets by the label. They just need to push updated DDEX metadata to the service’s private API for labels. People don’t notice and don’t care … until they do LOL. But music on no-name labels is the most precarious. They randomly freak out and remove everything. Or make their own weird app. And obviously they didn’t hire a team of developers, so it’s always a sketchy situation with no hope of any real longevity for the pseudo-platform.

  • @plica06
    @plica06 Рік тому +1

    That's why I never like the idea of Spotify and such streaming services... they work great but you never own the content; if you unsubscribe you loose everything. I'm always amazed at how ready people are to pay for these services but new generations are coming though understanding that this is how things work.

  • @i_Kruti
    @i_Kruti Рік тому +3

    Yeah..!!! This is a very serious problem...over worldwide....Here in INDIA also we encounter this notification saying "This song/content isn't available in your region/country....!!" Then why the heck you show the title...?? that seems like the song is available but when I try to play it ....the notification pops-up...🤷🏻‍♂

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I'd rather they don't tempt you by showing the song... then saying 'you can't actually listen to it, haha!'

  • @meatpopsicle6244
    @meatpopsicle6244 Рік тому +1

    Forget apple music, i had a couple songs I bought through itunes disappear with the same message.
    I used software to rip all the music out of my phone and put it on my plex server.

  • @braddofner
    @braddofner Рік тому +3

    It's sad when piracy gives you a better experience than when you pay for the service... Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

  • @PreybirdMKII
    @PreybirdMKII Рік тому +1

    And this is why I buy all my movies and music physically.
    Yes, I miss out on the last 3 seasons of Expanse, any Star Wars series and such... But short of someone coming in to my house and taking away the disks, I will always have access to it.

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr Рік тому +4

    I’ve been doing this but for film and TV series on Blu-Ray for a few months using MakeMKV + a Pioneer BDR-UD04 drive.
    One example is “The Martian” (2015) which I originally bought on iTunes but then it got removed. Plus the Blu-Ray releases often offer nice extras that streaming or digital purchase don’t.
    EDIT 0: Also some standup routines from Robin Williams etc. aren’t available anymore on Spotify. I wish they were.
    EDIT 1: At least some recent Star Trek shows do get Blu-Ray releases; like “Picard” and “Discovery”.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling  Рік тому +1

      True, if you love the BTS stuff, the physical media is still the easiest (and sometimes only) way to see all that footage!

    • @alexlandherr
      @alexlandherr Рік тому +1

      And some films like “Apollo 11” (2019) don’t have a nice 4K Blu-Ray so I had to go sail the seven seas of piracy and burned my own copy with the Pioneer BDR-UD04.

  • @bigz0725
    @bigz0725 Рік тому +7

    Every newly minted MBA should have a permanent shock collar attached. Whenever the rest of us hit some kind of en-ification like this, or forced arbitration, or price increases, or unskippable ads, or whatever, we could hit a button to deliver shocks to the responsible parties.

  • @alexclifford2485
    @alexclifford2485 Рік тому +2

    I set up a jelly fin media server on the back of your recommendations and videos Jeff. Very rewarding project. I've become quite the data hoarder too this year. Thanks for your expertise

  • @BattlestarCanada
    @BattlestarCanada Рік тому +5

    Love it. You need a new channel "Cranky Jeff". You and louis rossnann have it right.

  • @spaghettiupseti9990
    @spaghettiupseti9990 Рік тому +1

    this is why I always buy my music and movies, anything I cannot buy I pirate because I literally have no choice

  • @sandmanxo
    @sandmanxo Рік тому +4

    I'm at the point if the song, show or movie I want to see isn't available on physical media, I don't bother with it. Streaming used to be decent but with so many platforms and yet another subscription cost, forget it.

    • @dlewis9760
      @dlewis9760 Рік тому +1

      There's a lot of people that will subscribe to a service for one show. And another for just 1 show. And..... What some people do is take the C'mons (1 month FREE!!!!!) and binge watch and then cancel. That seems more like work as opposed to entertainment. "I have to watch 20 episodes of this in the next 30 days and then make sure they don't tap my CC by the 15th of next month".

    • @sandmanxo
      @sandmanxo Рік тому

      @dlewis9760 Agreed. If I have to work to game the system and binge watch why bother.

  • @teuluPaul
    @teuluPaul Рік тому +2

    The irony is of course that we had more choice when we could go to Blockbuster than we now have (even if we pay significant amounts for subscriptions). Personally, I refuse to pay for streaming services, and have taken the time to set my own Jellyfin server up, and will now be ripping all of my CDs (which I kept, thankfully). Thanks for the video Jeff!

  • @Mariuspersem
    @Mariuspersem Рік тому +10

    Louis Rossmann right again, piracy is completely justified

  • @hasanismail.
    @hasanismail. Рік тому +1

    everyone please watch louis rossmann's "piracy is justifyed" series it will rlly open ur eyes to how severe this is