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WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN HAVING RADS HANGING OFF THE WALL and David seems to know whats needed to make a good job looking at how he renovated the housing unit so thumbs up to you and him and the repair company
I used to love working on these as an apprentice because early 00s it was the only old school warm air that didn't have asbestos in it. They're pretty bullet proof and provide fairly even room temp compared to using radiators. It's nice to see Dave keeping it running instead of having a BG contract and them trying to talk him into unnecessary work having rads everywhere.
I love the way Dave fixes things instead of throwing it away. We have become a society of throwing things away. A fantastic video. 👏🏼 I learnt something new about warm air systems.
What a lovely bloke Dave is, Loved his wee smile when he knew he had to have a wee play around with the motor. Salt of the earth fella we need more of. God bless ya Dave
Interesting one this Tiff as I am an engineer. What a good system, makes you think why we not running similar systems now. David is a really nice bloke and shows the work ethic of the older generation.
Hi Mark, wow, excellent what a brilliant job and well done to you and David, I’m sure you must have got massive job satisfaction out of this project. I remember my dad talking about installing these domestic warm air systems years ago, but I can’t remember ever working on them with him, he is long gone now so I can’t ask him. David is a great chap with some good contacts, he did a brilliant job of cleaning and painting the unit ready for reinstallation, well done David. Another fantastic film and very enjoyable/educational, I’m sure David is very happy, well done, have a great week and as always, take care, regards Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris….. yep David is one of those men that you just enjoy being around, he is such a good guy. As you can tell I really enjoyed this job and also making the video….. glad you enjoyed it
Great vid Mark, brought back a lot of memories when I worked for British gas as a engineer. Well done for having a go. The only thing I would have added is a fan thermostat to prevent the system blowing out cold air, but none the less a great interesting vid 👍👍
Thanks mate, was very interesting job that’s for sure…. Adding a stat is a good shout, however David has worked it for 60years as it is so knows it inside out
A company I used to install and service my warm air at my previous home were installing Worcester Bosch boilers feeding a heat exchanger for warm air circulation. Boiler was a Lennox from the states - superb and over engineered. But expensive by conventional boiler with spares costing. Miss my warm air!!!
My Uncle was cut from the same cloth as this fella. He was a young engineer in the merchant navy in the last few years of ww2. He ran a very large refrigeration plant for many years in my home town. He was great at this sort of stuff. When he had heating fitted in the eighties he fitted a heater matrix in the ground floor warm ducting air and fed it off the heating flow and return. These old guys are unfortunately few and far between nowadays , which is a shame as they were really clued up on anything engineering. I work at a film studios which in its previous life was an MOD research centre and the pipework and engineering stuff we have found in there is mind blowing. I very much doubt we have the skillset nowadays to replicate some of this stuff.
I love seeing this stuff still going strong and the crafts people that can still fix them. The warm air is a very efficient system, im sure it was taken from US or Canada originally. We had this in our tower block that was built in 68-70. Crackin job Mark👍🏼👊🏼
About the same date of original install of my previous house, it was fantastic. We moved 7 months ago and we have a conventional radiator/boiler system. We miss our warm air heating, found it cheaper to run, house warm up time was about 15 minutes typical in current weather. Obviously residual heat at switch off not as good. Great vid thanks
Thanks for that, Mark: fascinating stuff. Our street was all warm air heating when it was built but I think it was the Johnson Starley type and most of the houses binned it years ago. It’s impressive how that one heat exchanger can do the job of half a dozen radiators. With the push for heat pumps I can see ducted air making a bit of a comeback in the next few years.
Johnson & Starley were not innovative enough and too set in a rut, I changed my JS to a Lennox from the states and it was superb in operation and engineering.
Yeah, the yanks are really into their warm air heating. In fact most of the world is, but it hardly gets a look in over here. Maybe it’s because the old systems weren’t much cop and by the time anything better came along, most people had already put radiators in.
What a brilliant video, so interesting, never seen this type of heating before. We all live in a disposable world, but not in Davids house. 40K not far now 😊
Thoroughly fascinating video. I love the simplicity of the system. We had something similar in one of our houses in the nineties but it relied on a central storage heater which warmed over night on economy 7 electricity rather than a hot water system. Can't help thinking how much we tend to overcomplicate these days.. One tip top though, don't store rancid trainers in the same cupboard, or you'll get a lovely smell wafted about the house, that's from experience. Thanks for the vid.
Fantastic video, matey 👍 Good old fashioned simple system.... Worst can happen over the years.... zone valve fault. Thanks for the content can see you really enjoyed that job. Wishing you well 👍
Had this sort of system I'm a house I grew up in think the house was built 1970. Boiler was condemned in late 90s for chucking out alot of co (i was so ill it nearly finished me off tbh) and the whole system was replace with radiators. Very intresting job for you and the way the plumbing world seems to work you will probably get a call about another one soon and can say "yea, I can sort that"
I repaired a forced air heating system in a house of similar vintage a few years ago, my mate repairs oil boilers but he was stumped with that one and two other electricians hadn't a clue about the spiral stats, old cutler hammer contactors and mercury TS thermostats. What was apparent was that several people compounded the problem by disconnecting low voltage transformers and totally misunderstanding the controls that operated the fan and burner. I figured it all out, reconnected it and explained to the old man what i had found and what I did to repair it. All he said with a smile was, "You are a clever man". That confirmed what I knew and that was that I was only being told the bare minimum about how it got into that state.
Looks like it's all had a bit of a make over 👍👌. I think we all come across something we have not dealt with before ..Best thing have a look then you know what you are dealing with .👍👌 I used to look after a same sort of system. But used electric storage heating. Had the big fan installed as well .👍👍
Hi Mark, great informative video, reminds me of some of the work I did for a company I worked for a few years ago, limited information and a great deal of work I remember, thanks for sharing.
Great video mark nice to see you give that warm air heating a new lease of life where many others would have said it’s had its day. Like the bleed screws you put in was wondering where you going to fit them 😂😂😂 remember loads of these warm air heating systems made by Johnson starley that where put in houses in the 70’s and 80’s as they where the in thing only to be done away with blanked off and rads fitted. Top work
Thanks Mark. A throughly enjoyable watch.. I hate watching your videos ( same with Tom's channel) as I want to hang up my spanners but you guys keep reinvigorating my passion for plumbing...😂😂 Keep up the great work and thanks once again
I have done a similar job about 10 yrs ago but the unit was mounted in the loft of a bungalow, also oil fired and self built in the seventy's by the owner . You or David need to cut a couple of bits of close fitting tin plate around the 28mm primary's, as you will be loosing heat blowing out. HTH Nice to do something a bit different and I enjoy the jobs some others shy away from, today I swapped a back boiler in a 70yr old coal Rayburn, interesting but filthy.............
Great Video Mark, fantastic work as usual. David done a great job of painting it all up. So enjoyable to see 2 different generations tackling a job and who works for a living. Both should be proud of yourselves!!!👍🛠️👌 Also, what jointing compound do you use, is it jet blue or jet lube.
Amazing ! I’ve a customer with the very same thing ! Probably a similar vintage and runs off an old Ideal E-Type. The fan makes an unholy racket when it runs but the customer is deaf as a post so couldn’t care less 😂😂
Great video, only thing I'd mention to him is wouldn't advise blowing rockwool insulation fibres (assume that's what it is) through the ducting, won't be good for him breathing them in, maybe swap for standard wool or something similar 👌
My Nans Sister was the first person to move into a new council house end terrace in the 60/70's. 3 bed end terrace. Living room. Dining Kitchen. Front porch and downstairs loo and rear lobby plus family bathroom. Bought it for 7k. In the year 2000 I passed my NVQ Level 2 & 3 City and guilds plumbing and gas and I replaced the warm air heating with a Worcester Bosch 24I Combi boiler. 7 Danfoss TRV's, New gas supply. 8 radiators and all in 22 and 15mm copper pipework. Charged her £400 labour and took me 5 days to install. My relative never liked the warm air system and to justify the cost to her husband said that the warm air unit was condemned by British gas and parts no longer available, while he was in Hospital with a hip operation.
@ good watch that bet he’s a laugh to work with, thought the rad was expensive but when I thought for custom made by a company that actually knows what there doing and I bet good materials used is cheap
Saw something similar down in Hampshire Ideal Concord upstairs heating the warm air unit downstairs..also many years ago came across a free standing boiler with a mechanical time clock which was powered by gas with 2 little gas pipes to the clock I'm sure i wasn't dreaming 😁
By shear coincidence, "Tears " by Ken Dodd was number 1 in the UK pop charts .... The Beatles, Rolling Stones and The Beach Boys were all in ascendency so your heater is in good company !!
My dad bought a 60s bungalow in the late 80s that had a warm air system, the boiler was a tall, all in one unit in a cupboard and that's what I was expecting here. He was advised to get rid of it when it broke down due to parts obsolescence. It seemed a shame as it heated the house very quickly. The hot water was provided by a separate multi point gas boiler that gave a very poor flow rate.
Mark we still repair a lot of the fan units for warm air systems.We have a customer who solely does repairs on warm air systems as there are still lots out there.
I’ve never seen one of those on a domestic single dwelling before. When I was an apprentice we work on a housing estate in south London which had that type of system. Boiler house fed the estate and the individual flats had those heat exchangers and fans. And I believe it was the same manufacturer.
That's a great vlog. It just goes to show how old Skool is cheaper to run and repair than all this new rubbish that costs a fortune to run and comes with built in obsolescence for free.
Have friends who lived in Stafford back in the seventys in one of those houses built in the sixtys, same vintage as Dave's. The warm air heating was atrocious , with the fan cutting in and out on the room stat, one minute it was roasting next it was freezing. I can see Dave has a relatively new boiler, may be that set up would benefit from a modern control system. May be, hot water priority and weather compensation would smooth out the tempreture rise and fall. May be this is already fitted , I would like to know.
Tiffy, he's an engineer by trade that just happened to get into farming. That entire side of the family love to repair things and use them to within an inch of their life. I saw David today and I can assure you that the feelings you expressed about him in this video are mutual.
Hi Ya . I have watched quite a few of of your vids. Can i ask about your soldering ? Do you clean (wire wool or similar ) the inside the elbows and Tee's before soldering and the outside of the pipe going into the fitting ? At times it looks like:- pipe cut... open bag of fittings and flux up and solder. I've done quite a bit at home and have been fastidious about cleaning inside the fittings , much to my chagrin. mostly 15mm and 22mm . Love to hear back from you. Best regards , Don.
Well done Tiff, If you need some similar content (x4), give me a shout (just moved from CV8 to CV37), although your soldering is crap, would like a bit of input.
Love Dave!! Swear my parents had something like this but with vents in the floor not the walls, I used to hide my sisters toys in them because you know gotta F with ur sister!! Great vid Mark 👌
Hi Mark…. Tidy repair… just one comment it’s a wonder the heating coil worked. The pipe nearest the back wall you have created an air pocket that can trap air as the pipe drops down to the air trap. If you had raised the tee on the back wall it would have self aired to the highest point instead of dropping down. Hope it makes sense.
Mark… I am glad it is working but the way it’s piped it will still collect air and be very hard to get rid of. I have been in the trade for 43 years and even if it is a pressurised system or opened vent system if the pip work has air in it … trust me it won’t work
Steven…..It has a thumb vent on the top for exactly that reason mate…… I’ve been in the trade 31 years and know how to get rid of air from a system… trust me, this is working as you can see
New equipment nowadays will not last the length of time as that old unit has. Equipment in those days was built to last not a throwaway era as per nowadays.
@@Exgasman9072 the air is taken from inside the house so all it would do is recirculate the existing air, also it would only run when there is a call for heat
@ I understand that just wondered why you didn’t do the same as the one at the back with compression tee and thumb vent keep it all back and properly out of the way. Genuinely wondered you been doing this longer then me so wondered if there was a reason behind it other then easy to get to ? Maybe I missed a bit.
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WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN HAVING RADS HANGING OFF THE WALL and David seems to know whats needed to make a good job looking at how he renovated the housing unit so thumbs up to you and him and the repair company
Thanks mate👍🏼👍🏼
Dave is old school, probably never throws anything away & fixes everything. A great job done by you all.
He’s such a nice guy and your right, he has an Aladdin’s caves of stuff
@@MJTiffPlumbinglook's like a washing machine motor haha very interesting tho
sounds like me that lol always have a tin on handy to throw any fixing ect in it as you never know
My late dad was just like David reminded me so much of my dad that was a great video. Remind me of work with my dad fixing everything old school.
Glad you enjoyed it mate, David is a remarkable person and great to be around
He also reminds me of my dad, he was a mechanic and would make his own head gaskets and retrofit carburetors
I used to love working on these as an apprentice because early 00s it was the only old school warm air that didn't have asbestos in it. They're pretty bullet proof and provide fairly even room temp compared to using radiators. It's nice to see Dave keeping it running instead of having a BG contract and them trying to talk him into unnecessary work having rads everywhere.
👍🏼👍🏼
I love the way Dave fixes things instead of throwing it away. We have become a society of throwing things away. A fantastic video. 👏🏼 I learnt something new about warm air systems.
Totally agree mate
What a lovely bloke Dave is, Loved his wee smile when he knew he had to have a wee play around with the motor. Salt of the earth fella we need more of. God bless ya Dave
Yep…. Amazing man
@MJTiffPlumbing You've made a good friend with Dave. Both lovely top blokes 🤝
Interesting one this Tiff as I am an engineer. What a good system, makes you think why we not running similar systems now. David is a really nice bloke and shows the work ethic of the older generation.
Completely agree mate, he’s of a generation that was amazing and an amazing man
we are running similar systems. very commonly seen all over the commercial sector
Lovely when a street lines straight up, great work as ever
Thanks mate
Dave, what a legend! Hope he wasn't too cold and without hot water for 2 weeks while the new rad was being made???
He is a proper legend mate….. and nope he was fine, old school farmer so he’s never cold 🤣🤣
Dave is a legend, what a lovely chap
He certainly is
Hi Mark, wow, excellent what a brilliant job and well done to you and David, I’m sure you must have got massive job satisfaction out of this project.
I remember my dad talking about installing these domestic warm air systems years ago, but I can’t remember ever working on them with him, he is long gone now so I can’t ask him.
David is a great chap with some good contacts, he did a brilliant job of cleaning and painting the unit ready for reinstallation, well done David.
Another fantastic film and very enjoyable/educational, I’m sure David is very happy, well done, have a great week and as always, take care, regards Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris….. yep David is one of those men that you just enjoy being around, he is such a good guy.
As you can tell I really enjoyed this job and also making the video….. glad you enjoyed it
Great vid Mark, brought back a lot of memories when I worked for British gas as a engineer. Well done for having a go. The only thing I would have added is a fan thermostat to prevent the system blowing out cold air, but none the less a great interesting vid 👍👍
Thanks mate, was very interesting job that’s for sure….
Adding a stat is a good shout, however David has worked it for 60years as it is so knows it inside out
Worked on plenty of warm air units that are all the 1 unit, never seen 1 that runs off a boiler with that set up!!! Great video!
Yep this was something I’ve never seen before but it works so well…. And will do now for another 60years I hope
A company I used to install and service my warm air at my previous home were installing Worcester Bosch boilers feeding a heat exchanger for warm air circulation. Boiler was a Lennox from the states - superb and over engineered. But expensive by conventional boiler with spares costing. Miss my warm air!!!
My Uncle was cut from the same cloth as this fella. He was a young engineer in the merchant navy in the last few years of ww2. He ran a very large refrigeration plant for many years in my home town. He was great at this sort of stuff. When he had heating fitted in the eighties he fitted a heater matrix in the ground floor warm ducting air and fed it off the heating flow and return.
These old guys are unfortunately few and far between nowadays , which is a shame as they were really clued up on anything engineering.
I work at a film studios which in its previous life was an MOD research centre and the pipework and engineering stuff we have found in there is mind blowing. I very much doubt we have the skillset nowadays to replicate some of this stuff.
Paul you are 100% with your comment mate, David and your uncle were from an amazing generation……🙏🏼🙏🏼
I love seeing this stuff still going strong and the crafts people that can still fix them. The warm air is a very efficient system, im sure it was taken from US or Canada originally. We had this in our tower block that was built in 68-70. Crackin job Mark👍🏼👊🏼
Thanks mate..👍🏼👍🏼
Absolutely amazing mark...love to see something new and out of the blue.
Thanks mate, appriciate that……
Yer I really enjoyed doing this job
About the same date of original install of my previous house, it was fantastic. We moved 7 months ago and we have a conventional radiator/boiler system. We miss our warm air heating, found it cheaper to run, house warm up time was about 15 minutes typical in current weather. Obviously residual heat at switch off not as good. Great vid thanks
Yep this warmed David house soo well….. and was very cheap to run
Thanks for that, Mark: fascinating stuff. Our street was all warm air heating when it was built but I think it was the Johnson Starley type and most of the houses binned it years ago. It’s impressive how that one heat exchanger can do the job of half a dozen radiators. With the push for heat pumps I can see ducted air making a bit of a comeback in the next few years.
Yep I completely agree with you mate, this works perfectly
Johnson & Starley were not innovative enough and too set in a rut, I changed my JS to a Lennox from the states and it was superb in operation and engineering.
Yeah, the yanks are really into their warm air heating. In fact most of the world is, but it hardly gets a look in over here. Maybe it’s because the old systems weren’t much cop and by the time anything better came along, most people had already put radiators in.
Brilliant video as always Dave is a legend need him more
Glad you enjoyed it👍🏼👍🏼 Thankyou
Really nice customer. My Gran had the same system.
Yer David is brilliant to have as a customer and he’s now a very dear friend..
What a brilliant video, so interesting, never seen this type of heating before. We all live in a disposable world, but not in Davids house. 40K not far now 😊
Thanks Keith…. Yep first one I’ve ever done..
And yep, so close to the big 40k
Thoroughly fascinating video. I love the simplicity of the system. We had something similar in one of our houses in the nineties but it relied on a central storage heater which warmed over night on economy 7 electricity rather than a hot water system. Can't help thinking how much we tend to overcomplicate these days.. One tip top though, don't store rancid trainers in the same cupboard, or you'll get a lovely smell wafted about the house, that's from experience. Thanks for the vid.
Hahahah very true about the trainers 🤣👍🏼👍🏼
Fantastic video, matey 👍
Good old fashioned simple system....
Worst can happen over the years.... zone valve fault.
Thanks for the content can see you really enjoyed that job.
Wishing you well 👍
Thanks Kev…… yep so simple but so effective…. And works a treat
Lovely job Mark something different interesting video enjoyed it David is a lovely character
Thanks Glyn, yep David is an amazing guy and a very good customer….. really enjoyed doing this job
Fantastic content, wish there were more David’s around the place.
Completely agree…. He’s great
What a great gentleman, David is👍
He certainly is🙏🏼
Had this sort of system I'm a house I grew up in think the house was built 1970. Boiler was condemned in late 90s for chucking out alot of co (i was so ill it nearly finished me off tbh) and the whole system was replace with radiators. Very intresting job for you and the way the plumbing world seems to work you will probably get a call about another one soon and can say "yea, I can sort that"
Haha yep, warm air specialist now🤣🤣
I repaired a forced air heating system in a house of similar vintage a few years ago, my mate repairs oil boilers but he was stumped with that one and two other electricians hadn't a clue about the spiral stats, old cutler hammer contactors and mercury TS thermostats.
What was apparent was that several people compounded the problem by disconnecting low voltage transformers and totally misunderstanding the controls that operated the fan and burner. I figured it all out, reconnected it and explained to the old man what i had found and what I did to repair it.
All he said with a smile was, "You are a clever man". That confirmed what I knew and that was that I was only being told the bare minimum about how it got into that state.
What a fantastic gentleman and brilliant setup loved this as someone in there early 30’s this is absolutely brilliant thank you
Thanks Shaun…. Yer David is a true Gent
Brilliant video and that looks like it will run for another 65 years 👏👏
Thanks mate….. yep don’t see why it wouldn’t👍🏼👍🏼
Looks like it's all had a bit of a make over 👍👌.
I think we all come across something we have not dealt with before ..Best thing have a look then you know what you are dealing with .👍👌
I used to look after a same sort of system. But used electric storage heating. Had the big fan installed as well .👍👍
Yep David gave it a proper spruce up when I had it apart
great video this one Mark, nice to see the job all the way through, Dave is very impressive too.
Thanks mate…. Really enjoyed putting this together
Hi Mark, great informative video, reminds me of some of the work I did for a company I worked for a few years ago, limited information and a great deal of work I remember, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it mate…..
What a legend Dave is. A really interesting video. Great work!
Thanks mate, yep he’s an amazing person
Brilliant, thanks to you and David for a great video, well done Lads.....
Glad you enjoyed it Chris
Great video mark nice to see you give that warm air heating a new lease of life where many others would have said it’s had its day. Like the bleed screws you put in was wondering where you going to fit them 😂😂😂 remember loads of these warm air heating systems made by Johnson starley that where put in houses in the 70’s and 80’s as they where the in thing only to be done away with blanked off and rads fitted. Top work
Thanks mate, your I really enjoyed this one
Thanks Mark.
A throughly enjoyable watch..
I hate watching your videos ( same with Tom's channel) as I want to hang up my spanners but you guys keep reinvigorating my passion for plumbing...😂😂
Keep up the great work and thanks once again
Hahahaa your welcome mate, glad you enjoyed it
Really enjoyed this one, great to see something out of the ordinary. Great job again!
Glad you enjoyed it, I really enjoyed this job
Lever ball valves are best bet, I’ve fitted hundreds during my working life in engineering construction and rarely had problems with them.
Wait and see buddy😉
Great video love customers like this makes the job so worth while keep up the good work mate
Thanks Robert….. yep David’s is a great guy
Great video Mark. David is a legend!
Thanks mate…..
Yep he is such a great guy, been doing bits for him for years and he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet…
Good job, MJ Tiff
Thanks mate
Loved this video mate ❤👏🏻 really interesting to see a system from the 60s
Thanks mate
Cracking video Mark
It’s different I enjoyed watching that 😂
😎👍🤜
Thanks Tony, I really enjoyed doing this job for David… the guy is amazing…
Brilliant video Mark, really interesting. Great job done by yourself and David.
Thanks mate
Interesting and different but simple idea
Thanks mate
Don’t ya just love it when solder runs down the lasts fitting you sweat haha
Always happens don’t it🤣🤦🏻♂️
I have done a similar job about 10 yrs ago but the unit was mounted in the loft of a bungalow, also oil fired and self built in the seventy's by the owner .
You or David need to cut a couple of bits of close fitting tin plate around the 28mm primary's, as you will be loosing heat blowing out. HTH
Nice to do something a bit different and I enjoy the jobs some others shy away from, today I swapped a back boiler in a 70yr old coal Rayburn, interesting but filthy.............
Love doing stuff that is a little bit different
Great system that! Bet it’s really efficient as well
So simple and very effective
Great Video Mark, fantastic work as usual. David done a great job of painting it all up. So enjoyable to see 2 different generations tackling a job and who works for a living. Both should be proud of yourselves!!!👍🛠️👌
Also, what jointing compound do you use, is it jet blue or jet lube.
Thanks Ashley…. Yep David is a proper hands on guy…
Think that paste was Jet Blue
@@MJTiffPlumbing Thanks Mark👍
A lot of the 70s had them in or something very similar, and NO leaks 🙋♂️see you on the next one 👍👍👍
Great systems of the time👌🏼
Top work Mark! That was a really interesting video.
Glad you enjoyed it…. Thanks mate
Amazing ! I’ve a customer with the very same thing ! Probably a similar vintage and runs off an old Ideal E-Type. The fan makes an unholy racket when it runs but the customer is deaf as a post so couldn’t care less 😂😂
Hahahah love this
Great video, only thing I'd mention to him is wouldn't advise blowing rockwool insulation fibres (assume that's what it is) through the ducting, won't be good for him breathing them in, maybe swap for standard wool or something similar 👌
Yep good point that
Very interesting Mark & informative.
Thanks Derek
My Nans Sister was the first person to move into a new council house end terrace in the 60/70's. 3 bed end terrace. Living room. Dining Kitchen. Front porch and downstairs loo and rear lobby plus family bathroom. Bought it for 7k. In the year 2000 I passed my NVQ Level 2 & 3 City and guilds plumbing and gas and I replaced the warm air heating with a Worcester Bosch 24I Combi boiler. 7 Danfoss TRV's, New gas supply. 8 radiators and all in 22 and 15mm copper pipework. Charged her £400 labour and took me 5 days to install. My relative never liked the warm air system and to justify the cost to her husband said that the warm air unit was condemned by British gas and parts no longer available, while he was in Hospital with a hip operation.
Hahahah brilliant story, love that 👍🏼👍🏼
Wow, loved this vid
Thankyou mate 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Really enjoyed doing this job AND putting the video together
i would get on with him big time as he is a fixer, worked with people like that over the years when i was younger
He’s a top top guy
@ good watch that bet he’s a laugh to work with, thought the rad was expensive but when I thought for custom made by a company that actually knows what there doing and I bet good materials used is cheap
Saw something similar down in Hampshire Ideal Concord upstairs heating the warm air unit downstairs..also many years ago came across a free standing boiler with a mechanical time clock which was powered by gas with 2 little gas pipes to the clock I'm sure i wasn't dreaming 😁
We see some crazy stuff
By shear coincidence, "Tears " by Ken Dodd was number 1 in the UK pop charts .... The Beatles, Rolling Stones and The Beach Boys were all in ascendency so your heater is in good company !!
Hahahah love this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
My dad bought a 60s bungalow in the late 80s that had a warm air system, the boiler was a tall, all in one unit in a cupboard and that's what I was expecting here. He was advised to get rid of it when it broke down due to parts obsolescence. It seemed a shame as it heated the house very quickly. The hot water was provided by a separate multi point gas boiler that gave a very poor flow rate.
Yer I think over seen something like that before…..
Mark we still repair a lot of the fan units for warm air systems.We have a customer who solely does repairs on warm air systems as there are still lots out there.
I can see why, built to last
I’ve never seen one of those on a domestic single dwelling before. When I was an apprentice we work on a housing estate in south London which had that type of system. Boiler house fed the estate and the individual flats had those heat exchangers and fans. And I believe it was the same manufacturer.
First one for me aswell
That's a great vlog. It just goes to show how old Skool is cheaper to run and repair than all this new rubbish that costs a fortune to run and comes with built in obsolescence for free.
Glad you enjoyed it mate
Have friends who lived in Stafford back in the seventys in one of those houses built in the sixtys, same vintage as Dave's. The warm air heating was atrocious , with the fan cutting in and out on the room stat, one minute it was roasting next it was freezing. I can see Dave has a relatively new boiler, may be that set up would benefit from a modern control system. May be, hot water priority and weather compensation would smooth out the tempreture rise and fall. May be this is already fitted , I would like to know.
Tbh he knows how to work this system to suit him and turns it on and off as needed.
It could be modernised if he wanted to… maybe one day
Hi mate, great video,what does your tee shirt say , couldn't quite read it
Hahaha….. thanks mate….
As for the T-shirt….😉😉👌🏼
Tiffy, he's an engineer by trade that just happened to get into farming. That entire side of the family love to repair things and use them to within an inch of their life. I saw David today and I can assure you that the feelings you expressed about him in this video are mutual.
Hey Stu…. Im going to see him this week to show him the video….🙌🏼🙌🏼
And thanks mate, he’s an amazing man as you know
It just just looks like a car rad with one inlet and one out and slightly bigger tanks. I'd be tempted go to the local breakers yard for one, ha ha.
Hahaha…. A fair bit thicker than a car rad but yep, very similar
Oh mate the last time I worked on one of those it was all one unit! About the size of a Mini!! Seriously, it took up the space of a box room!!!
Yep this isn’t small at all….. but so basic and works a treat
@ 1965 basically speaks for itself 😂 not so many about now
100% mate
Was there a mesh filter that sits above the fan to prevent the fan drawing in lint and blocking heat exchanger?
There’s a cover on the outside of the cupboard… that’s it…..
Hi Ya . I have watched quite a few of of your vids. Can i ask about your soldering ? Do you clean (wire wool or similar ) the inside the elbows and Tee's before soldering and the outside of the pipe going into the fitting ?
At times it looks like:- pipe cut... open bag of fittings and flux up and solder. I've done quite a bit at home and have been fastidious about cleaning inside the fittings , much to my chagrin. mostly 15mm and 22mm . Love to hear back from you. Best regards , Don.
Hey Don….. yep, literally flux in fitting and on pipe… away you go.
If it’s old pipe then give it a clean with wire wool👍🏼👍🏼
Nice job somthing different
Thanks mate…. Yep really enjoyed this one
Will that pipe work be imperial sizes
No it was normal 22mm thankfully
We had Johnson and Starley Warm Air heaters in our house fitted in the 70's,but they got replaced due to the asbestos being in them.
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Well done Tiff, If you need some similar content (x4), give me a shout (just moved from CV8 to CV37), although your soldering is crap, would like a bit of input.
If you think that soldering is crap….. you’ve never seen crap soldering🤣🤣😉
I had warm air central heating in my house in 1977, it was a new build, I liked it, kept the house nice and warm
Yep David’s house is warm as toast now
Is that systen really efficient? Heating a whole house with just one radiator!
It works surprisingly well and warms that house very well
Love Dave!! Swear my parents had something like this but with vents in the floor not the walls, I used to hide my sisters toys in them because you know gotta F with ur sister!! Great vid Mark 👌
Hahahaah brilliant
Hi Mark…. Tidy repair… just one comment it’s a wonder the heating coil worked. The pipe nearest the back wall you have created an air pocket that can trap air as the pipe drops down to the air trap. If you had raised the tee on the back wall it would have self aired to the highest point instead of dropping down. Hope it makes sense.
Yer it does and I mentioned this in the video….. however it works a treat as it’s a pressurised system 👍🏼👍🏼
Mark… I am glad it is working but the way it’s piped it will still collect air and be very hard to get rid of. I have been in the trade for 43 years and even if it is a pressurised system or opened vent system if the pip work has air in it … trust me it won’t work
Steven…..It has a thumb vent on the top for exactly that reason mate…… I’ve been in the trade 31 years and know how to get rid of air from a system… trust me, this is working as you can see
Pump will push that air out no problem
No further comment 🙈
New equipment nowadays will not last the length of time as that old unit has. Equipment in those days was built to last not a throwaway era as per nowadays.
100% mate👍🏼👍🏼
I like Dave!!!
Top guy
surely it should a pipe stat to stop it blowing cold air
Was installed way before they were a thing…. But guess it could have one retro fitted. Not been an issue in 60+ years
@@Exgasman9072 the air is taken from inside the house so all it would do is recirculate the existing air, also it would only run when there is a call for heat
Why did you replace the original pipework? It's been ok for 50 odd years.
Wanted to get rid of the gate valves for one that work, also to get new vents in.
It had to come out to get the unit out….
Why add the thumb vent at the front and not at the back with the other one would have looked way better and less chance it gets caught and damaged
There is one at the back mate…. Did you watch the video..
And as said in the video the one at the front is not going to be in the way for David at all
@ I understand that just wondered why you didn’t do the same as the one at the back with compression tee and thumb vent keep it all back and properly out of the way. Genuinely wondered you been doing this longer then me so wondered if there was a reason behind it other then easy to get to ? Maybe I missed a bit.
oh yeah...inhibitor added....after you've pressurised it all up! hahha....
Still going to go round the system….🤣🙄…..
Just shows you made things to last back then
Completely mate
@MJTiffPlumbing clever system tho I never seen one before
I don’t know why you didn’t just fit some rads and sack that warm air stuff off to the tatman 😮
Because it would have cost about £10/12k……. This is just as good for this house and was sorted for a hell of a lot less
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Evening mate
@ Evening Buddy 🤘😎🤘
Nah rip it out and give them a system that works
This works a treat…… and they save £10k 👌🏼
@ booooo