Path of Exile: Timeless Jewels Explained
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2019
- Really min-maxing these things is gonna be a pain.
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The Spiritual Aid notable isn't too far to capitalize on that 160% damage increase.
Proud of you video making man.
As always stellar content. I only wish you would do more youtube videos :). You explain complex stuff really fluently.
I haven't watched your videos for so long that I forgot how soothing your voice is. You make ASMR videos without even trying.
That is 160% possible generic damage, this is insane.
HoA Jugg would fucking love that jewel
That's almost more total minion damage than a necromancer spec'd full into minions gets from their entire tree inc ascendancy
@@asmosisyup2557 It gives almost as much damage as rathpith globe gives to specters.
Rather than using divines I have been sniping the Vaal version for 12c at a loss just for science, first league I've felt I could do that without feeling bad about my wealth. Good that, good jewels, good video let's hope others but and experiment more.
Only like 600 people will get that far... it's okay isn't it?
Thanks for the video, while I haven't had any drop for me I have been rather curious to how they work. Ironically that jewel you rolled would be perfect for my current build haha.
the outro is so beautiful I shed a tear
thanks man, that cleared things up quite a bit :D
One divine orb "Oh look, I just crafted something really neat"
This is so much better than synthesis
no, this is not better than synthesis at all, are you kidding?
this is PUREST rng, and even if you get something good you will have SO much trouble selling it, if you're not a public figure
@@iSammax Maybe you could use it yourself.
@@tamarap13 maybe, maybe not, who knows? all I'm saying is - synthesis crafting sucked a little bit, but the end result was clearly defined and transparent, you could trade crafted items and build around items you don't have yet
@@iSammax It's pure rng for the elegant hubris jewels sure as it completely transforms notables, however for the other jewels (bar one) it's not as rng as it only adds extra stats to passives you already have. Still rng ofc however with every divine you use to reroll you will get at least something useful from your gem.
I play endurance Jugg HOA build. I MUST have this jewel!
I'll give u everything I own and don't, including the wife, kids and the cat!
Sorry, your cat already made a deal trading you and your family for the jewel.
@@asmosisyup2557 Yea sorry for that. Greetings, your cat.
in the world of cats, you are its pet.
You hit the double minion node and I gasped lol. Solid jewel there.
This was really helpful, thanks!
Thank you for the explanation :3
Good stuff! Thank you.
Thanks! This was much more clear than your short little bit on Baeclast, but I understand you didn't want to get too in depth without having the visuals to show everyone.
GG, GGG random uniques with no way of telling if they are good or not is a great idea(especially since they have potential to be gamebreakingly powerful)!
Really helpful thank you
I still dont know what's going on
Nice video, I hope we figure out how the seeds work eventually.
These jewels are a lot.
Thanks for the info sir
If you are looking for a Minion damage Elegant Hubris just check the 122700 commisioned to Victario. It gives 320 percent increased minion damage in the jewel spot on top of the Witch location
This explains alot thanks
You stole my heart with this video. Reported. But seriously, I'm so glad I found your chan. Very informative and calm.
More price check videos would be amazing! Even one a league
tl;dw It's cheaper and easier to build a character around a Timeless Legion Jewel from the start (2nd chard), than it is to find one (Divine One) for your lvl 95 character.
Can you make a video describing what all 5 jewels do so to speak, similar to how you went into depth into the 2 you did today.
Thanks ontavian0
Jesus. GGG's motto seems to revolve around RNG and spreadsheet fuckery every league.
I think its more meant to be, grab shit have fun with it. go nuts. but yall took that last part a little too seriously. haha
*Video starts*
"Good evening, it's good to see you everyone, my name is Octavian"
Me: Damn, he's got such a sexy voice
Guess I'm gay now, huh?
Yes sir
Thank you
omg i want these jewels again
love you
let´s play path of excell spredsheet mining database.
Mine offers 320% inc melee damage (if you take the spiritual aid node) on top of that it offers 15% chance to gain power charge on hit and 10% more damage frenzy + endurance charges and 50% inc damage with bleed was fun to mess around with and I was melting a lot of bosses problem was I lost like 2.5k life.
I have a question, that I couldn't find an answer to it. I got Militant Faith
with Dominus as a High Templar, it gives 3% to spell damage per power charge, so the question is can I get 6% per power charge for two keystones? or timeless jewels restricts having keystones to one only? that when I got two keystones on my tree my damage didn't change.
I was like "WTF, this gear complexity is getting out of hand" when they introduced Shaper and Elder bases.
Now I'm fucking speechless:D
Thanks
Well ggg really went crazy this time around xD i like it
what base and what name do i need if i want es or life regen or es regen?
holy shit theres so many outcomes
this entire mechanic is a way to raise the value of divine orbs
I have been playing bladestorm berserker since leaguestart and only have 50 splinters of karui as my highest
Then the problem is your way of playing:))
im looking to get some specific eternal notables. but i have no way how to go about it.
also, the notables i get with my timeless jewel dont get changed. they just get something added. same with the travel nodes :O
damn with this u can customize shit like crazy
might need to start a new toon
They are so unpredictable so they nearly force people to experimentate with their own builds. Neat.
Everyone's league ender is going to be some odd ass scion.
GGG is just crazy...
brutal restraint jewels are now 90 c can you do another video about them as well
I'm playing a 88 Slayer Cyclone. Would you say it's worth using 10c to try and buy 1? (Im kinda new, been playing almost 3 weeks.) Also, can't find upgrades still at my gear from long time ago. :(
Damm that crazy
Ive been holding on to mine like a crazy person..instead of selling. The fact that most people dont know how they work tends to inflate the economy as they are dumped out for currency. The interesting part though is even those who knows how they work can only check the areas where they have slots available, unless they either burn regrets for science, or have a scion character that just ggoes around grabbing every socket for the sake of checking jewels.
My point is, even if it is total garbage for the sockets you have available, it may be a stupid strong jewel somewhere else. So why sell them for pocket change you can farm in 1-2 maps, instead of stashing them to try on another character that will be somewhere else on the tree. At the same time, if you find a GG setup, good luck selling it at a higher price for it, since no one will know it is a GG setup, or where it is on the tree, until they buy it.
I wonder what is treshold of counting. 1000 range? 100 ? 500?
The same conclusions I came with.
Karui can be divined for different effects?
That minion chitus: make a dw poets pen necromancer. The pet to player damage scaling is neat.
Or just use the scourge claw and get that minion damage working for yourself
@@ManaMastery you don't need the claw, it's in the tree now. Far left minion major node.
Note: the Karui jewel adds +2str to every travel node and +4str to *every other minor node,* so socketing one in any densely-packed area of your build will get you a bunch of life & increased melee phys as well as whatever notable bonuses the seed gives you.
Yes, but you could, you know, put an actual good jewel in there and probably gain a bunch more. It has to hit multiple good things in notables to be worth it, IMO.
And here I thought it couldnt get more obscured and spreadsheety than Synthesis...
So the only thing you can do is buy one with the faction corresponding to the keystone you want and then throw divines at it until it turns into something good.
nope. because the name also gets rerolled when divining. It's basically chaos spamming an elder item, but for your passive tree.
@@asmosisyup2557 That's what I mean. You buy the jewel that can roll the keystone you want, then continue to divine until you get it with a good notable roll.
is there still no way of determining what the notables are before trading?
I almost thought that octavian is also engineering eternity.
what skill is bound to his right click???
hmm you cant build specifics now ... that's actually great i love it
hello, i want to know, 96000 coins & 96999 are different ?
Great video but could really have used covering the remaining 2 jewels besides karui, empire and maraketh
That minion damage jewel with Scourge claws is 160% melee dmg
You dont need the claw any more. That effect is on the passive tree close to the Templar start
Do this jewels drop in 2 way battles? Or only in 4-way or 5?
More likely the more bosses you kill.
where you can get them??
the minion damage is good but it sucks the keystone would be wasted on a pet build bc it wouldnt affect your pets? or would it?
Depends on the build, my pet build wouldn't care about losing the one keystone but could really benefit from an additional 160% extra minion damage. And as many bosses die in about 30 secs as it is, they might as well not even exist with the 160% damage boost. Which with my build means roughly 400% minimum extra damage with attacks every second, which means absolutely absurd dps. And that is before the instant army that is Vaal Summon Skeletons (Just add water)
i only want A jewel what gives ES, or Regeneration or ES regeneration. any like that in the game? i dont care for damage
Thanks I have the one and now I WON'T divine it till I get another one with the same name!
where do you get them?
What's the difference between melee damage and global physical damage? Which one would benefit a cyclone build more?
There are skills that are physical and not melee.
@@ozymandias8523 but melee do physical damage or dont they?
I was here
i just had same one with 2 80 mele physcal damge and 40 crit multi
can some one price it
OmG are you Bill Nye the science guy?
So “higher number” doesn’t mean it’s a better jewel?
nope
Number is just random modifier.
@@GrimMeowning what about the name chitus cadiro and victario
@@rainbownaja did you try watching the video?
@@rainbownaja That's just for Keystones. Chitus will turn a Keystone into Supreme Ego, Victario for Supreme Grandstanding and Cadiro for Supreme Decadence.
thanks I still dont graps everything of it but makes a bit sense, it has for sure one of the most useless modifier description.
I've been searching like mad, but cant seem to even find info on how one would get any of these jewels..
The wiki just says you get one by corrupting 5 and vendoring them - but how does one even get the first five o.O
That bit of info on the wiki, is insanely far from helpful.
Anyone care to shed some light on this?
Is it just random drops from the timeless encounter (the map/emblem) ?
As mentioned briefly on the POE website under the Legion info and in more depths in ZiggyD's introduction video as well as the BaeCast followups, these jewels are random dropped by the Legion generals. Normal Legion encounters drop splinters which can be crafted into a "breachstone" with 100 splinters. You put these stones in the map receptacle for encounters that have only Legion mobs. These encounters also guaranteed encounter with generals. You can encounter generals in normal Legion encounters too and they can drop the jewels as well, but apparently at a much lower rate.
@@kevinleugan6037 Thanks for the info in regards to the jewels.
I was aware of how to get splinters/emblems, as I've run a fair bit of those emblem fights already (10-15 3/4/5-way fights, mixed), at the time of writing my initial comment) - must just have been really unlucky and not gotten any jewel drop.
I assume you cant copy the jewel and paste it into pob and see what it would do?
I was thinking the same but I'm not sure if pob received an update for every jewel's effect..
does Pob work with this things?
Not at the moment, sadly
funny, the now "easy" to work with jewel is the most expensive
You can tell what the jewel does if you know the jewels seed in advance.
This seems like the most hyper-specific randomized mechanic in POE that makes me almost vomit just thinking about it
Another thing they added of which I have no chance of ever getting.
I believe the notables are boolean. You either have it or not, so the double +80% minion damage is not possible. It will only count as +80%, not +160%. Please check this information. I remember reading something around those lines from Mark a little while ago on reddit.
Swapped a jewel with only a single 80% node in for the one with 2 on a tree with spritual aid, and tooltip damage was affected by the loss of 80% minion damage. Seems to work fine.
Keystones are the ones that interact that way.
You confuse notables and keystones. We already have a lot of simillar notables like +30 dexterity/strength/intelligence and they stack of course.
@@steezy3294 well, the +30 dex/str/int notables are all named differently. i.E. Might and Alacrity both give + 30 Strength. but yes the only thing that is unstackable are keystones
Any Yorkshire tea?
160% minion damage!?
have you tried getting 2 jewels overlapping each other?
Limited to one ...
@@shymigrain9338 ahh makes sense
Your video is so good except the time your cursor stay on the note is too short. Please let your cursor stay just 1 second longer that will be much easier for us to pause and have a look. Many ppl haven’t seen this stuff and need to pause.
They should make a new character class that has the entire passive skill tree always corrupted in a random seed.
that would make people create characters over and over again until they hit something f*cking broken. Way to much RNG in this. But could be fun for some Private (void) or temp (void) league.
Maybe the whole tree transforms every week with (some) random nods. Some weeks you can play, other weeks you can't?
These are designed to keep the players in the league after they clear out the game content in the first 2 weeks
Your jewel affects 2 Keystones. Do you get 2 different transformed Keystones from that?
f g no
that would depend on the seed number and and name on your jewel
yea i get it now - Keystone depends on the Person-Modifier - so only 1 keystone
The thing is, how do you sell the jewel? you'd have to post screenshots in the trade forums (do they even exist still?) with a link to your item on the trade site. That's the most straightforward "not-relying-on-trust" system i can see for selling these jewels.
i would @#$% love that jewel on my minion build. It also raises a point that if your going to use timeless jewels, you should probably have a scion that has all jewel slots unlocked just to see what they do, incase your about to roll over an absolutely godly jewel (on the other side of the tree).
At first they need to fix auction at all :D
But ye, valid points.
Actually screenshots wont work, since you can't capture the jewel ## and the notables in the same screenshot (hence scamming). You would literally need to post a youtube clip *like this* to prove that ## applies those notables.
I don't think they expect you to trade them. You're supposed to see something incredible and make a build around that yourself. To trade you pretty much have to use a reliable middle man and holy shit, do I not envy you if you find yourself in that position.
so the number is like a seed for the RNG? that is insane. It's like a RNG for an RNG for and RNG.
The result Random.
I still don't get it. I'm looking for the 80% physical damage for my character. But I just don't understand these jewels.
These seem cool, but what in the fuck were they thinking with the rolls on these?!
There is simply no way this is random...let's hack POE's code and let's get on with it :))...Random is never random
let me get that jewel im necro ;)
I just rolled one with 160% minion damage and 37% chaos resist. I'm es necro using top center slot. Seems pretty good. ;)
Easy money as a streamer with reputation. Since there is no way to trade those without beeing scammed, you need middlemans that does the trades for a 5% cut