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You’re awesome. That was absolutely the right thing to do. Most of the time a company does this, their intention is to let that person go and the PIP is a way of covering their asses.
In the NHS they call it a "supported improvement plan" and say it is not disciplinary action. It does appear in their disciplinary policy (NHSGG&C) though as actions that can be taken against staff alongside verbal and written warnings. My experience came as a result of false allegations, that I could disprove but management were determined to take this forward as they didn't know I had recorded them - when they found out they dropped the "plan" but pushed me out the door by refusing to provide "reasonable adjustments". I will have the last laugh when this is publicised, recordings and all!
I had a manager that didn't like me no matter what I did. The process of being fired was slow and painful, and the PIP was little more than a show trial with constantly moving goalposts. The rejection hurt but I came to realise that despite my flaws, I could have been perfect and it still wouldn't have been enough.
I am in this situation now I was placed on PIP and now I am leaving I would rather keep my career and integrity in tack than let them obfuscate it or paint a bias narrative.
@@Jupiterxice Sorry to hear it, take care and try not to let it bother you. If I am honest I am still a bit upset about my situation, it really damaged my confidence and made me feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with me, to the point that I feel any employer will now treat me the same.
@@willyeckerslike9437 do not let that affect your self esteem or confidence. You know your worth and value never let anyone or company dictate that. Think of yourself as your own business.
I quite understand, as I had a good for nothing boss in Tennessee who did nothing at all but condemn me and constantly stuck me on the crapp list then started playing head games. There were may other things such as minor silly infractions that weren't the end of the world, however to him, it was, and he was a heavy cocaine addict and abuser so, you can see just exactly what I had to deal with with that idiot. He won, I lost, and just decided to resign than allow him to screw me around and mess up my future any more than it was after I got done working for that jerk.
You don't have to always leave!!! Continue to work by executing your duties. Most of the time when this happens is because your manager sees you as a threat! So what- you have bills to pay, screw their emotions. When you keep showing up, it's making them more eager to fire you but can't cause you're giving them no real reason to. God has us going through circumstances like the work place for the season for a reason. Colossians 3: 23-25 This is for somebody; Don't Quit!!!
I did that with one of my first employers. My idiot supervisor who NEVER liked me had the audacity to try and sway my decision to leave after a year of employment. He said and I quote "you know you don't look happy here, have you every thought about finding other opportunities?". The arrogance on this a$$hole was nothing I had ever experienced before. I was going to quit that day but then I realized I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction so I ended up staying for almost another year. He had no reason to fire me until one day I showed up 5 minutes late because of a traffic accident on my way way to work. This was reason enough for him to let me go. Still want to punch this guy in the mouth to this day.
I don't judge but companies gave me the double of my last wage each time I have been fired. The worst, I am super afraid to lose my job each time. I was not a good job seeker so I did entrepreneur experience instead of working in a business. Some businessmen consider if you are good enough to do 6 million in 4 months, you deserve better than 30,000$ par years and much more responsibilities. This is often a problem related to the power trip from my manager or other employers who refused to work with me.
Worked at a datacenter where i was doing the workload of 6 people. Saw all the signs that i would be let go. Right before leaving they asked for me to write up documentation on how i do my job. I outright refused, and this became the point they fired me. About a week later they were calling me in a panic at midnight because no one on site knew how to run month end processing, or tasks like regulating the tempature of the facility, leading to causing overheating, outages, and penalties .Never, ever, write a manual for your replacement. If you can be replaced so easily, they can afford the costly mistakes of figuring it out together with your "cheaper" replacement.
The same goes for interviews, they are allowed to know everything about you even your credit profile... but trying to find out what their employee turnover is and whether they are profitable is almost impossible unless they are public company and asking these questions in the interview guarantees you wont get the job. In fact you are encouraged to ask questions in interviews as long as they are superficial so the person doing the interview can give you some gibberish corporate speak answer that doesnt mean anything.
This happened to me. I was once an individual contributor. What's ridiculous was that they were discussing to me about PIP like they have an actual program, but they were still drafting it. Another thing that was disgusting was that they didn't even have performance metrics in place. All they had was verbal feedback, which was subjective in nature. It was indeed unfair in many levels. I never signed up for the PIP. I left. Blessing in disguise, the endeavor I had after them is that I am now an IT operations senior supervisor of one of the best companies here in our city. The best come back ever.
I have heard of other employees being fired and they end their life. The company never talks about it even though it was in the local news. That is super stressful to have that happen here in America.
These experiences are always traumatic and sometimes tragic. Which is why we can never give a job so much power over our emotional health. Being an efficient and professional employee has nothing to do with being completely obsessed with work.
Ending my life over getting fired? No thanks. If they didn't like me, fuck em...I'll find somewhere else to work. Yeah it might suck to get fired but I would never end it over a job. That's just ridiculous.
@@TigerPaint92 You are 1000% correct, I would NEVER kill myself over some junk ass job nor would I go to prison killing some supervisor (who is a damm employee like me anyways). Its all in the mind. Think of it as a contractor. If I am a home re modeler or electrician and the customer does not like your work and fires you, do you think the contractor would go home and hang himself? Why would it be any different if your an electrician working for someone? I pray people have some type of job skill they can bring elsewhere. Its all about confidence.
I had the hint when our new manager came in. I was over loaded with work. Finishing at 10pm and sometimes 11pm for an entry role. I was forced to stay and finish. I was overworked it took a hit on my mental health. Other work colleagues even noticed that I am not fairly treated. He did not care. He once said he’s dog is better than humans.. mind you I was the only coloured lad in the office. I had to apologise to things I did not do. I remained positive throughout and left on good note. As I was loosing it mentally. I decided to leave without even having a job in line. Best decision I ever made.
It's incredibly painful to be singled out and treated so unfairly. Which is why it's such a relief to be able to break free! You were clearly overworked and micromanaged, so good on you for quitting. Hope you get a great new job within a healthy and productive environment.
I was at my job for 17yrs when by boss passed. me and my help took over.it was ok until they brought in a another boss that did no work just sold work he started to change stuff move people around basically he brought in his son &nephew they could not read blueprints or do anything. every thing changed these kids sucked we buttedheads he took my truck give it back told me I was the best and learned from the best.so let do my thing with my helper and will take care of it .well he told me he never has fired or paid out on unemployment .so at that moment forward I set out to get fired. you quit no unemployment .I came in and left early come in late finally he fired me so I drawed unemployment i told him the man that was the best .told me you always learn from other people don't be a know it all because someone might show you a better way
@@rossc2439 The new boss bringing his son and nephew was already a sign of a forthcoming bad environment. At least things had worked out how you expected them to and you can leave this place behind!
@@myemmotion yea, sometime you ha ve to stay a step ahead, to protect you & your family from people like that.thanks for your comment. And yes it worked out like I wanted. I had time to catch my breath and go to another company.
Sometimes you have to do things that aren't right when your stressed and it affects you and your family.good luck to everyone who has a toxic environment at work .
Most firings have more to do with simple fact the boss not liking you rather than poor performance. If they call you into their office for a write up or a negative performance review, just leave. The Titanic has struck the iceberg and it's time to abandon ship.
That is so true. In my 1st job I invested a lot in productivity and avoided socializing at the office to not waste time, I was terminated and replaced by someone else. I had another collegue in my team with a family that only worked 4h/day at most but he invested a lot in his relationship with the manager. In my new job, I am trying to cultivate more a meaningful relation with my manager and avoiding being too goal oriented. I am much more liked at my new company then I was at my last and even if my performance got worse my manager is more empathetic and gives me better reviews than my older manager.
The unions here in the UK will advise you not to quit your job but will not offer any tangible support either. They seem to look at as, so we lost a member, hey ho, the next employee will probably join. A lot of NHS managers were once reps themselves so they know that the union (Unison) are total crap and they have nothing to fear! Jeez Unison even turn on supportive reps and force them out the door. My advice, don't work for the NHS and if you do don't join Unison! Check trustpilot first!
what astonishes me is that we are raised to tell the truth, be kind et and when you get to the corporate world it is anything but. It is snide, hidden, unfair, mind games and if you're super sensitive like I am I feel it all. I had to leave a huge corporate job due to a jealous colleague, who was, ostensibly better at the job that me but she enjoyed her underhand tactics and humiliating me, that was what hurt that she got away with being conniving. I luckily have a teaching certificate and took a year out to get over it.
I had this happen to me with one job. I was constantly being yelled at and was walking on eggshells every day. They also liked to gaslight me as well. After a month and half I left as I knew this was a toxic environment and I deserve better.
Glad you did manage to get out safely and yes you deserve better. I have pity for those employers since they couldn't behave professionally and handle things like adults. I was an artist at a game studio and one fine beautiful day, the new boss came and decided to fuck up an already good line up of a team, we've been there for years and he fired more than half of them and hire the freshly graduate sprouts. I was among those who stayed but he made a very toxic environment, especially the play favorite game, gaslighting, blaming game and shit like that. I knew I have to leave and during the meeting, he accused me of having bad attitude and all of issues in the world, including his failing management and such just because i was not one of those butt kissing and he couldn't manipulate me. I physically punch him in the face and we got to the police nearby but definitely worth it. That studio appeared to be very professional to everyone but not so much i guess since people don't know much what actually happened behind the door.
It’s great that you’ve found the strength to do so. So many people can’t and end up developing important health issues. Did you manage to give them feedback before you left?
@@tuanang7889 Such companies end up having a huge turnover. Only employees who’s been there for years stay, anyone with a common sense would be looking for an exit!
I was fired once by a Zoom call. Worse, I asked to return my diabetic medication that was left in my drawer, but no one responded. So my attorney contacted them and they sudden reply they couldn't find it. My manager had it thrown away knowing very well that I had type 2. How lower can you sink as a person?
It doesn’t have to be your boss. You can be outsourced and taken by surprise. It happens in many fields. If you’re being pushed out. Change departments or companies. Who needs to feel like killing oneself or being depressed. You may see your job on a job site. Some bosses are so sneaky that you won’t know what hit you.
Almost every single point you mention reflect what I have been through and, surpsigly, I intuitively developed some coping strategies to deal with toxic work environment and boss. Micromnangent, exclusion/avoidance, removal of big tasks I used to do, and blaming were the major signs. I managed by hard work, acomplishig my tasks and meeting the deadlines as well as documentation of my achievements. Howeve, the mistakes I committed were confrontation, challenging my boss and complaining to coworkers - all turned against me. I experienced all the pain of stress, desperation and depression but, luckily, I survived mainly because the whole issue was from my direct boss and not part of the whole institution and my assignment was temporary after which I had to move to another location within the same institution with new boss and work environment. I will add your advice to my repertoire. Thank you so much for your valuable channel and for the great guidance you provide. Big like and subscription
Many years ago. I was asked to train someone to do the work I do. Nobody knew how to do the job, and I pretty mutch learned how on my own. Then they put me on a performance improvement plan for something someone else did. I refused to sign, handed over my badge, and walked out. They were left high and dry. Then they really started to loose money big time, and it was really hitting them on their profit, and loss statement.
Years ago, I remember hearing in the news about fired post office workers, coming back on the job & going postal. 🔫😂 But its not worth it. Just apply for unemployment benefits, while looking for another job. And if you happen to figure out that you are about to be let go; Just quietly, start looking for another job. Because you just might found another job before you are let go. Most of the time you usually get something better anyway. 💪✊ Here is a secret: Your job experience, usually helps you to get a better job, often with better pay somewhere else.💡👌💪🌟
all this sign happened to me and I was put in PIP..PIP is really hell..I hope I didn't experience that again..at the end I was forced to resign..I have worked really well with previous manager..but the new manager didn't like me and she want to take employee that she trust..and the blame game is real..everything blame it to me..even small matter..
Thank you for helping me heal from the many experiences where I have been psychologically abused, gaslit and had damage done to me in the form of depression, anxiety, fear and outright abuse as a hard working , courteous,helpful and thoughtful person with a disability. Even though the disability is not one that affects the work I do as it is manual labour. I always feel I am started off on a lower playing ground of value. Even though I work non stop even doing more than I'm asked to try to make everyone's life better.
I just started my work in a school 2 weeks ago and the leader of the team I am in has already shown her dislike towards me. In the first 3 days of me working, she told everyone (including the school coordinator) that I cannot do anything. She would critize me about everything in everytime. She also avoids my presentation when I'm around her and limits any kind of interaction & conversation with me. Tbh I really REALLY DO HOPE to get fired asap rather than to stay and work together with toxic leader. I cannot resign yet since I am working under contract until mid 2025.
You are very welcome! Hope things are not that bad and even if they are, at least you can be prepared for it in a certain way. Thanks for your kind feedback and keep me updated on how it goes!
Excellent video and information to say the least. I’ve been through all the crap he listed expect the PIP. I did 11 years for a huge DOD company and made them money through my efforts on proposals only to be fodder in the end. Sorry to be “jaded” but if you’re loyal to a company you’re a fool. I got a good severance package but the stress wasn’t worth it. His video is really good as it hit 90% of the “slow death” techniques my old company used.
You just nailed it, "slow death techniques", that's a perfect description of the whole process. I am not saying that the employee is always right, but even if one wants to learn, improve and get better, they can still easily get rid of you and make your life a living hell. At least you are now out of that place, step by step and you'll be feeling better. The damaged self-esteem, which these situation produce, is soon going to be fully repaired. Thanks for stopping by and for sharing your story. Best of luck and if you have any related questions, I'll be more than happy to help!
A company that I worked for a few years ago had an HR director and she was my boss. When she came into the office and I said Good Morning, she avoided me. She would go to a lady sitting near me and loudly greet her with happiness. I was laid off, not fired because there were other people laid off during Covid but, I remembered she told me when I first started working there that she laid off some people because she didn't like them. I must have been a person she decided to lay off. I was so happy because I don't want a boss like that.
😢😢😢😢😢apologies ,dude . Highly demotivated and disenfranchised seeing your story ... This cruel lady needed someone to put her in her place , apparently she looks like she is emotionally verry weak and can't tolerate anyone critiquing her .maybe she was a sexist feminist ! Maybe , she was a highly susceptible to the looks theory : You might be am average Joe. 😂😂😂😂
I experience some of this and my boss was very rude to be until late December on a Friday night, it was about my hours being cut 😑 that’s when she was being nice to me again but I still ended up leaving because of how petty that was
It's like she psychologically punished and manipulated you, so you wouldn't oppose/react strongly to your hours getting cut. You must have experienced more drama at that place, it's good that you left!
My boss ignored me, never listened to me when I tried informing her about not being trained properly with correct information, tried telling her how coworkers were isolating me and not trying to give me correct info because they’d all say I was her favorite, workplace mobbing…. The list goes on 😂 She was finally happy when she took me to another department saying I’d be trained to take over someone’s position because they were about to go on vacation and no one wanted to learn his machine since it was one of the most difficult in the building. An hour into being trained, I get informed I’m permanently staying in that department by someone else 😂 I’m staying a few more weeks just so the guy can take his vacation because he’s so sweet and actually trying to help me learn what he knows but afterwards I’m out
What about when your hours are constantly being cut? What about when Human Resources are giving you dirty looks or directly laughing at you every time they see you? I had this one part-time job where I kept on asking for more hours, but my hours kept on getting reduced. One time, I said to my supervisor, "You could have put me in that slot there." His reply was, "Just leave the schedule the way it is." Next week, it was the same position and we had the same conversation. About one month later, the supervisor walks up to me and said, "George is retiring from the company and we are doing a collection for a retirement gift. Do you want to contribute?' My reply was, "You keep on cutting my hours and now you are asking me for money? Here is what I am going to do. All those hours that you took away from me, that's my contribution to this guy's retirement gift." His reply was. "Okay, forget it."
My manager's manager was mentoring me. She found a better position at another heath care organization, and left. My manager proceeded to fire me and the other two employees who had been hired originally by her boss. Everything at the organization was done on the cheap.(Two of the three positions had required professional licenses. This manager demoted the jobs to avoid having to pay a fully qualified professional. When serious legal complications ensued fourteen months later, the manager was fired without notice.) My question: how/why is there zero professional oversight in some of these places? Their very existence is brought into jeopardy by managers who attempt "cost saving" measures that ultimately ruin the organization. Then, remaining management refuse to take responsibility for past chaos that almost destroyed their own careers. I don't think the American work force is in good shape at all. I write this in August, 2022, during a period of enormous inflation and recession. Even though they're already short-staffed, many organizations continue to hemorrhage employees. The American economy is in free fall and there doesn't seem to be a bottom. I am very glad that I no longer have to work.
Sue them!! You have grounds!! And sue the manager who terminated you!!! Take them to the cleaners!! And this BULLSHIT is going to continue in this BIDEN GLOBALIST ECONOMY! All these layoffs and firings,and in June,they hire college graduates for a dollar a hour above minimum wage!! This DIRTY game has happened several times in the last twenty to thirty years and this is how companies cut costs,but end up getting KARMA at one point when they go bankrupt because no one has a clue what is going on!!!! Or know how to do WORK!!!
Really? I am about to quit this horrid place but worried about getting paid every week. I have been thinking about that feeling of being relieved after I quit or if it will be an opposite feeling lol
@@dirtymig0pp772 It's better to get yourself fired. Just make sure it's nothing that would be your fault. Getting fired just doesn't hold the stigma that it used to.
@@dirtymig0pp772 Put in the bare minimum. Say no to anything outside your job description. Document everything so that you can say you did your job and only that. Just don't do or say anything criminal. However, the biggest no-no on a job is to give your honest opinion about something without regard to offending someone. That's how I got fired the second time around.
@@rrahh8789 your telling me that if I do manage to get fired, I will be able to collect unemployment while I look for another job ? Because I hate this place I work at so much
I like the way he frames it as you being a human and this not defining your existence. Being fired is emotionally disturbing. Its social rejection. There was a person studying the KKK as infiltrated it and was socially rejected by it or something like that. Even though the person hated the organization in the first place, they still documented it hurt to get rejected.
I was fired 2 weeks after my promotion to supervisor. Had been there for 1 year, and had 3 raises total. My last raise, I was moved into salary. Then they canned me. Wow.
That's ridiculous. They must have been happy with your job, giving you raises and promoting you. Did anything happen during these 2 weeks at the new role?
@@mrtwister9002 Post-employment background checks can't be used as a reason to fire someone, especially after previous background checks/raise, etc. There must have been someone else going on, either way that is extremely unprofessional from their side. They could have at least given you a certain reason/explanation.
@@myemmotion Thank you for responding. Your comment is encouraging. I plan to file with the EEOC and am currently applying for UI. This whole experience has been heart breaking for me. On a side note, they NEVER offered me a chance to explain, they said, "We spoke to HR and there is nothing we can do." The report was a state wide search, they fired me for a conviction that wasn't even on the copy of the report, as the conviction was in a different State.
@@mrtwister9002 You are very welcome, I definitely know what you mean. It's an emotionally draining experience which affects your health and peace of mind. File that complaint, they had all the background search done while hiring you, nothing had changed a year after. Best of luck and keep me posted!
I have recently realized why I get panic attacks at jobs is because of past job abuses that took places and though I keep getting back up bc nobody else will pay for my bills, I have become traumatized/have work-related ptsd .... The symptoms are a real struggle and they are real.... How do I get past this trauma bc I don't want it to come ntrol my life
Jr IT Support at a publicly traded company. I have solved 99% of tickets on the same day; always professional and polite to everyone; took multiple initiatives; helped company save money on new security camera systems; started a comprehensive IT asset database; resolved issues they used to deal with by reinstalling Windows...many more to list. 3 months later my manager said to my face "I can grab a high schooler off the street and they can do your job". I have resolved many issues that he failed to. I also caught an IP belonging to a hidden device somewhere that was seeding torrents & mining cryptos, to which he said was not that big of a deal. Gave me the ultimatum today - accept 2 months of extended probation and behave, or walk.
Do you think it’s rather toxic, when a recruiter phones you up and says your too overqualified for the job, but they might interview you because they can’t find anyone else?
It does sound very "off". Did they evaluate you for the job on the phone? Was this their "next steps" after finishing the phone interview? Or did you just receive a call for them to say only that?
No one person can fire anyone in my company. It takes a process (1 warning) (2. Formal warning accompanied by a trade union rep) (3. No improvement - a team looks at the issues, and you may be fired) But this may also mean being placed on performance management. However, this may end up in a tribunal case, which is free for an employee to file. If you're being excluded from info that would enhance your productivity, it's definitely a case for tribunal case for unfair dismissal, and as long as it can be proved, there could be a hefty payout.
Thanks for your video. I have those signs now. I used to get along well with my manager until she knew i am an honor person who dont cover her ass. Now she is retaliating me.
One good sign in my experience is if the boss is selling the company/or getting new management and they literally tell you, "Don't worry about a thing. You're fine. You're not getting fired. Nobody is losing their job. We're just making new changes to the schedule but everything is fine. Just come in your usual time and we'll talk about it later when we get things settled." If you hear that, "RUN!!" But another way to know if you hear hints from your coworkers.
The problem with HR Pros is their qualifications don't cover Group Dynamics or any Management knowledge whatsoever. As a former victim of bullying and a holder of a Diploma in Management, I can tell you that Micro Management isn't necessarily a sign of bullying and can be mistaken for insecurity by misuse of Leadership Style eg: Exploitive Authoritative - a common mistake made by even experienced Managers, and should not be taken alone as a pre-cursor to Termination. Managers make the mistake because they aren't actually qualified eg: they don't hold a Management Diploma at all, as their main credential is in another subject. Most are nothing more than a semi-decent admin type, and business admin is not difficult to grasp - but Managers they most certainly are not, hence the reason for bullying in the first place, which is - inadequacy...... Most are incompetent, the very thing they will almost certainly try to get you on. So you suggest applying for jobs, which means resignation time - actually that's the last thing you should do - as once you leave, you cannot gather evidence and it's more difficult to take action under the umbrella of 'constructive dismissal'. You must gather evidence and take them to an employment tribunal.
Wow, this sounds so familiar. Last year I was laid off on 4/1 due to loss of business from COVID. The manager who recruited me to the company (a friend) had left a few months earlier after only being there around 8 months. That was bad sign #1. I was pushing 50 and the average age at the company was around 25-26. Bad sign #2. I had a conflict with the director above me. Bad sign #3. I'd just come off of a bad employee review (many items I could tell came directly from this director I hated). Bad sign #4. Then, one day I came into work with 4 or so new team members out of the blue! They'd been transferred in from other projects that had been cancelled. I was asked to onboard another person with my title, but lower salary and half my age. A couple of days later I got the layoff notice. Strange deja-vu based on what you're saying.
That's how it works, just as one of the comments pointed out, it's a slow death and they do it step by step. There is hardly anything you could have done to be successful in such situation. The worst part is the stress, because it's a huge psychological pressure.
And it's incredible how they've also asked you to onboard these people, that's like sticking to the manual 100%, without even trying to hide it. In most cases, such managers/companies want to intimidate you first, so you'd leave your job by yourself, which for some people is completely out of question. I hope you are in a much better place right now, you have so much to offer, any company would be lucky to get you onboard!
@@myemmotion Thanks. My layoff was really just accelerating the inevitable. Pushing 50 at a company where the median age was mid-20s just felt awkward. I found a much better job!
Happened to me, my boss brought in someone else, asked me to train him on one ofmy accounts, saying that he wanted the new guy to help me woth the work. My boss thought I was dump, but i had the information earlier enough... I trained the guy with full dedication, and in 2 mos, we had become great buddies with the new guy and learnt we had studied in the same foreign country. My boss yelled at the new guy once and he got a taste of his own medicine. 3 mos, he decided he didnt need this guy. He called me to a meeting and revealed his hidden agenda. I asked him to continue with his plan, stating the guy was a great fit for the replacement, esp with my cauching. The guy was transferred to another dept. We remained great buddies though which pissed my boss. 1 yr later, the new guy left the company for better.
You are the best adviser on You Tube I have found about this topic. I can't thenk you enough for the exsistance of your chanel!!!! Every sigle word of yours hits the home!!!! 🙏🙌❤️
I hope you make a video about HR. My impression on how things work with HR seems to be wrong, I trusted them with my case and they let me down. How can I talk to them right? Thank you for your help and for always valuable content!!!
It depends on each situation, but when it comes to your manager involving HR isn't a good idea. Especially if you don't have concrete and proven evidence against that person.
These are very good points. I would add that if the company has you doing menial task outside of the scope of your JD, (for instance, having you come in in Jeans and a T-shirt to move things around) it shows they don't respect you. That is a good sign that you're about to go. A new manger, _or new ownership,_ can mean bad news. They may keep key people in place for a year or so in case they need them, and then sayonara. Best to just leave. Also, if the company says that they will retrain you on a new system that's replacing an old one, they're most likely lying. Plan to be told goodbye when they're confident the new system is running smoothly. Just leave. If they ask you to write a job description, say goodbye. If they ask you to train a new employee, tell them your training fee is $300/hr. (I'm not kidding). A PIP is not only a bad sign, but they will make it unfair, and try to trip you up if they can. Also, if they're giving you a PIP, it's only a matter of time. Bye! Don't be afraid of your managers, or even the owner(s). If you can defend your situation/performance, do it before you leave. Let them know what was unfair about their treatment of you. if they're treating other associates better than you for the same thing, point that out too. Have a GTH (go to hell) fund, or have a side hustle to fall back on so you can leave immediately, and on your own terms. Don't give them time to react, and don't give them a 2-week notice. If they are replacing a whole department of, say, 5 to 10 people, being the first one out the door will do you well, as it means you're not competing with your co-workers for available positions at other companies. Corporations don't give a flying four-iron about you, and will throw you under the bus to save their own skin; no remorse, and no regret. Who do you think pushed for the _at will state_ laws? They don't worry about you; don't worry about them. If you think your company is phasing out a department, and you find work at a place where there are multiple openings, call your former coworkers and tell them you found a place that's hiring pulling them away from your former job before that company is ready. Never, ever, take a counter offer. If you do though, get it in writing, ask for double you salary, a minimum time frame for them, make it one sided (your side), and have an attorney review it. Make them pay for the attorney.
A workaholic "overperformer" and a kiss-a** employee can shift your manager's perception of what is considered acceptable performance for that position. A coworker might seem busy all the time and it might seem that they are answering more emails than you but what the manager does not notice is the amount of mistakes they make that go unnoticed or the time they waste fixing those mistakes.
My current situation. I'm federal, dealing with workman compensation, knowingly false accusations, harassment, discrimination, etc. My post is trying to accomplish 3 things with me. Death, fired, quit They've violated my rights in many ways. People say im a punk for not getting into a physical/verbal altercation with me. (No matter how right you're. DO NOT do this. Get them on paperwork, file a lawsuit, etc.) I remain professional and mostly non-verbal. Document everything. What sucks too is that the entire post, Director, Zone Mgm, etc are all in cahoots with everyone. Bad behavior is promoted. I know I have a strong case of EEO, Workman's compensation, and a piss-poor union. Sadly, they will never be held accountable. You will be fired. People have to worry about their families and paying bills.
I was the victim of illegal discrimination by the SSA in Jax Florida. I let it go and did not file any type of formal complaint as it was an entry level position which was nearly all black females and being a white man I just wouldn't fit in no matter what.
Things are very toxic between my boss and I and all I want to do is my job. I was returning the toxicity, but it is really beneath me to return tit for tat. Thanks for your great advice and tips for us to maintain our peace as best as we can. Have a good weekend!
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How long did you work at the company for? It’s an unnecessary emotional weight which you need to get rid of! Believe me, no one would care about it, if you stop caring about it yourself. I think speaking about it and letting what’s on your mind go would be helpful.
Can you tell that you are being manipulated at work so your boss can have a reason to fire you? he CCed those who have nothing to do with my job,so weird Thank you for the tips Im lookin forward to what to do when fired video
I was terminated from a job just over 2 years ago but was still considered a good employee by my former manager. It led to severe mental health issues but am now back to working part time.
It’s always a traumatic experience and it takes some time to process and heal. How long have you been working at this part time job for? Is it also helping to regain confidence and self-esteem?
Officially since Jan 2020 but had to have a break for a few months because of my MH issues. I'm on the autistic spectrum so it hit me even harder than it would most. Since July 2020 I've been back there continuously and yes it's helped with my self confidence. I'm also doing a part time counselling course alongside and I'm hoping that will improve my communication skills.
@@MRBAIN1231 And you are doing all the right steps. It's also positive that your manager considered you a valuable employee, which isn't common for someone who's been fired. Our mental and physical health is always a priority at any job, so it's important not to get too involved with the drama of the toxic workplace. And once we are out of there, we need to focus on our recovery to feel happy and satisfied both at work and in our personal lives!
*when you're passed around like a bad penny or put on more and more impossible or boring assignments. *when you section has been systematically eliminated.
@@myemmotion BTW I would recommend if you need more time before being let go to do something controversial that gets you noticed. Like disagree with the diversity and inclusion stuff or make a stink about inappropriate affirmative action actions the company does. Then they'll think twice. They will get rid of you but not all at once. I made a stink about them mandating 1/3rd of the board has to be women pointing out the equal pay act of 1964 and I think that delayed me getting let go.
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Also the manager changes is resonating with me so much
Thanks for the playlist.
@@emmsummer7811 That's very frequent.
@@amysimmons805 You are welcome!
@@myemmotion Do you do consultations?
Sometimes it is a blessing in disguises. When one door closes, a new door opens.
I'm telling myself 😢this but I'm starting to feel hopeless
AMEN 🙏
I refused to sign a “performance improvement plan.” Got up and walked out.
You’re awesome. That was absolutely the right thing to do. Most of the time a company does this, their intention is to let that person go and the PIP is a way of covering their asses.
@@yankeekill ♥️
You made it easy for them
@@mutantos6778 Nope. Won a lawsuit baby. 😎
In the NHS they call it a "supported improvement plan" and say it is not disciplinary action. It does appear in their disciplinary policy (NHSGG&C) though as actions that can be taken against staff alongside verbal and written warnings. My experience came as a result of false allegations, that I could disprove but management were determined to take this forward as they didn't know I had recorded them - when they found out they dropped the "plan" but pushed me out the door by refusing to provide "reasonable adjustments". I will have the last laugh when this is publicised, recordings and all!
I had a manager that didn't like me no matter what I did. The process of being fired was slow and painful, and the PIP was little more than a show trial with constantly moving goalposts. The rejection hurt but I came to realise that despite my flaws, I could have been perfect and it still wouldn't have been enough.
I am in this situation now I was placed on PIP and now I am leaving I would rather keep my career and integrity in tack than let them obfuscate it or paint a bias narrative.
@@Jupiterxice Sorry to hear it, take care and try not to let it bother you. If I am honest I am still a bit upset about my situation, it really damaged my confidence and made me feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with me, to the point that I feel any employer will now treat me the same.
@@willyeckerslike9437 do not let that affect your self esteem or confidence. You know your worth and value never let anyone or company dictate that. Think of yourself as your own business.
I quite understand, as I had a good for nothing boss in Tennessee who did nothing at all but condemn me and constantly stuck me on the crapp list then started playing head games. There were may other things such as minor silly infractions that weren't the end of the world, however to him, it was, and he was a heavy cocaine addict and abuser so, you can see just exactly what I had to deal with with that idiot. He won, I lost, and just decided to resign than allow him to screw me around and mess up my future any more than it was after I got done working for that jerk.
Usually bosses behave like that when they envy your abilities or feel threatened by you. Don't let it get to you, is their issue not theirs.
You don't have to always leave!!! Continue to work by executing your duties. Most of the time when this happens is because your manager sees you as a threat! So what- you have bills to pay, screw their emotions. When you keep showing up, it's making them more eager to fire you but can't cause you're giving them no real reason to. God has us going through circumstances like the work place for the season for a reason. Colossians 3: 23-25 This is for somebody; Don't Quit!!!
I did that with one of my first employers. My idiot supervisor who NEVER liked me had the audacity to try and sway my decision to leave after a year of employment. He said and I quote "you know you don't look happy here, have you every thought about finding other opportunities?". The arrogance on this a$$hole was nothing I had ever experienced before. I was going to quit that day but then I realized I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction so I ended up staying for almost another year. He had no reason to fire me until one day I showed up 5 minutes late because of a traffic accident on my way way to work. This was reason enough for him to let me go. Still want to punch this guy in the mouth to this day.
Amen
You're right in a previous video to: Not tell colleagues anything, not reveal plans, don't become friends, don't express strong opinions.etc
Yes especially in a toxic work environment
Being fired is always emotionally difficult and sometimes very hard to digest
I know, it definitely is.
Omg so true 😔
I don't judge but companies gave me the double of my last wage each time I have been fired. The worst, I am super afraid to lose my job each time. I was not a good job seeker so I did entrepreneur experience instead of working in a business. Some businessmen consider if you are good enough to do 6 million in 4 months, you deserve better than 30,000$ par years and much more responsibilities. This is often a problem related to the power trip from my manager or other employers who refused to work with me.
What about if I’m in a work union
Worked at a datacenter where i was doing the workload of 6 people. Saw all the signs that i would be let go. Right before leaving they asked for me to write up documentation on how i do my job. I outright refused, and this became the point they fired me. About a week later they were calling me in a panic at midnight because no one on site knew how to run month end processing, or tasks like regulating the tempature of the facility, leading to causing overheating, outages, and penalties .Never, ever, write a manual for your replacement. If you can be replaced so easily, they can afford the costly mistakes of figuring it out together with your "cheaper" replacement.
Exactly! I’m glad you were smart and did not write anything for them nor did anything for them. You should’ve said my rate is $500,000.
It’s so true about being fired having stigma written all over it but only for an employee and never for a manager or company. You made a point there
It's a shame that it still works this way, the good thing is that it is slowly changing.
This is so wrong to think that the company/manager is doing no wrong. In reality it is just the opposite.
The same goes for interviews, they are allowed to know everything about you even your credit profile... but trying to find out what their employee turnover is and whether they are profitable is almost impossible unless they are public company and asking these questions in the interview guarantees you wont get the job.
In fact you are encouraged to ask questions in interviews as long as they are superficial so the person doing the interview can give you some gibberish corporate speak answer that doesnt mean anything.
Being placed on PIP is the worst. It's like they tell you we'll fire you.
They will if your manager decides so.
yes, this happened to me. I left
@@terryg.9870 same like me..I was put on PIP and after that I was asked to resign..
This happened to me. I was once an individual contributor. What's ridiculous was that they were discussing to me about PIP like they have an actual program, but they were still drafting it. Another thing that was disgusting was that they didn't even have performance metrics in place. All they had was verbal feedback, which was subjective in nature. It was indeed unfair in many levels.
I never signed up for the PIP. I left. Blessing in disguise, the endeavor I had after them is that I am now an IT operations senior supervisor of one of the best companies here in our city. The best come back ever.
What is PIP?
Remember you can replace a job like they can replace an employee.
I have heard of other employees being fired and they end their life. The company never talks about it even though it was in the local news. That is super stressful to have that happen here in America.
These experiences are always traumatic and sometimes tragic. Which is why we can never give a job so much power over our emotional health. Being an efficient and professional employee has nothing to do with being completely obsessed with work.
I’d probably end the lives of the toxic people who fired me before I’d end my own 🤷♂️
Ending my life over getting fired? No thanks. If they didn't like me, fuck em...I'll find somewhere else to work. Yeah it might suck to get fired but I would never end it over a job. That's just ridiculous.
@@TigerPaint92 You are 1000% correct, I would NEVER kill myself over some junk ass job nor would I go to prison killing some supervisor (who is a damm employee like me anyways). Its all in the mind. Think of it as a contractor. If I am a home re modeler or electrician and the customer does not like your work and fires you, do you think the contractor would go home and hang himself? Why would it be any different if your an electrician working for someone? I pray people have some type of job skill they can bring elsewhere. Its all about confidence.
I just lost my job yesterday for something extremely unfair.. I have no support and the only I want to do is take my life..
What really sucks is when you have been with a company for years and a new manager is brought in to upset the apple cart.
Micromanaging and looking for reasons to put your work down, even though you over preform and get all work done.
I had the hint when our new manager came in. I was over loaded with work. Finishing at 10pm and sometimes 11pm for an entry role. I was forced to stay and finish. I was overworked it took a hit on my mental health. Other work colleagues even noticed that I am not fairly treated. He did not care. He once said he’s dog is better than humans.. mind you I was the only coloured lad in the office. I had to apologise to things I did not do.
I remained positive throughout and left on good note. As I was loosing it mentally.
I decided to leave without even having a job in line. Best decision I ever made.
It's incredibly painful to be singled out and treated so unfairly. Which is why it's such a relief to be able to break free! You were clearly overworked and micromanaged, so good on you for quitting.
Hope you get a great new job within a healthy and productive environment.
I was at my job for 17yrs when by boss passed. me and my help took over.it was ok until they brought in a another boss that did no work just sold work he started to change stuff move people around basically he brought in his son &nephew they could not read blueprints or do anything. every thing changed these kids sucked we buttedheads he took my truck give it back told me I was the best and learned from the best.so let do my thing with my helper and will take care of it .well he told me he never has fired or paid out on unemployment .so at that moment forward I set out to get fired. you quit no unemployment .I came in and left early come in late finally he fired me so I drawed unemployment i told him the man that was the best .told me you always learn from other people don't be a know it all because someone might show you a better way
@@rossc2439 The new boss bringing his son and nephew was already a sign of a forthcoming bad environment. At least things had worked out how you expected them to and you can leave this place behind!
@@myemmotion yea, sometime you ha ve to stay a step ahead, to protect you & your family from people like that.thanks for your comment. And yes it worked out like I wanted. I had time to catch my breath and go to another company.
Sometimes you have to do things that aren't right when your stressed and it affects you and your family.good luck to everyone who has a toxic environment at work .
Sounds very familiar, nonstop blame game until you get fired or leave by yourself
Usually that what happens.
im in this situation.pray for me
Most firings have more to do with simple fact the boss not liking you rather than poor performance.
If they call you into their office for a write up or a negative performance review, just leave. The Titanic has struck the iceberg and it's time to abandon ship.
That is so true. In my 1st job I invested a lot in productivity and avoided socializing at the office to not waste time, I was terminated and replaced by someone else. I had another collegue in my team with a family that only worked 4h/day at most but he invested a lot in his relationship with the manager. In my new job, I am trying to cultivate more a meaningful relation with my manager and avoiding being too goal oriented. I am much more liked at my new company then I was at my last and even if my performance got worse my manager is more empathetic and gives me better reviews than my older manager.
Man, I hate this ass kissing pony show. Gotta think of a business idea 🧙
The unions here in the UK will advise you not to quit your job but will not offer any tangible support either. They seem to look at as, so we lost a member, hey ho, the next employee will probably join. A lot of NHS managers were once reps themselves so they know that the union (Unison) are total crap and they have nothing to fear! Jeez Unison even turn on supportive reps and force them out the door. My advice, don't work for the NHS and if you do don't join Unison! Check trustpilot first!
what astonishes me is that we are raised to tell the truth, be kind et and when you get to the corporate world it is anything but. It is snide, hidden, unfair, mind games and if you're super sensitive like I am I feel it all. I had to leave a huge corporate job due to a jealous colleague, who was, ostensibly better at the job that me but she enjoyed her underhand tactics and humiliating me, that was what hurt that she got away with being conniving. I luckily have a teaching certificate and took a year out to get over it.
I had this happen to me with one job. I was constantly being yelled at and was walking on eggshells every day. They also liked to gaslight me as well. After a month and half I left as I knew this was a toxic environment and I deserve better.
Glad you did manage to get out safely and yes you deserve better. I have pity for those employers since they couldn't behave professionally and handle things like adults. I was an artist at a game studio and one fine beautiful day, the new boss came and decided to fuck up an already good line up of a team, we've been there for years and he fired more than half of them and hire the freshly graduate sprouts. I was among those who stayed but he made a very toxic environment, especially the play favorite game, gaslighting, blaming game and shit like that. I knew I have to leave and during the meeting, he accused me of having bad attitude and all of issues in the world, including his failing management and such just because i was not one of those butt kissing and he couldn't manipulate me. I physically punch him in the face and we got to the police nearby but definitely worth it. That studio appeared to be very professional to everyone but not so much i guess since people don't know much what actually happened behind the door.
It’s great that you’ve found the strength to do so. So many people can’t and end up developing important health issues. Did you manage to give them feedback before you left?
@@tuanang7889 Such companies end up having a huge turnover. Only employees who’s been there for years stay, anyone with a common sense would be looking for an exit!
I was fired once by a Zoom call. Worse, I asked to return my diabetic medication that was left in my drawer, but no one responded. So my attorney contacted them and they sudden reply they couldn't find it. My manager had it thrown away knowing very well that I had type 2. How lower can you sink as a person?
It doesn’t have to be your boss. You can be outsourced and taken by surprise. It happens in many fields.
If you’re being pushed out. Change departments or companies. Who needs to feel like killing oneself or being depressed. You may see your job on a job site. Some bosses are so sneaky that you won’t know what hit you.
🤣 With the boss I have it’s like the daily challenge to see how you get to keep your job.
The question is how long would you still like to keep it for!
@@myemmotion Right! Well I have 2 interviews on Monday for a new job… I would have quit yesterday if I could have.
Almost every single point you mention reflect what I have been through and, surpsigly, I intuitively developed some coping strategies to deal with toxic work environment and boss. Micromnangent, exclusion/avoidance, removal of big tasks I used to do, and blaming were the major signs. I managed by hard work, acomplishig my tasks and meeting the deadlines as well as documentation of my achievements. Howeve, the mistakes I committed were confrontation, challenging my boss and complaining to coworkers - all turned against me.
I experienced all the pain of stress, desperation and depression but, luckily, I survived mainly because the whole issue was from my direct boss and not part of the whole institution and my assignment was temporary after which I had to move to another location within the same institution with new boss and work environment. I will add your advice to my repertoire.
Thank you so much for your valuable channel and for the great guidance you provide. Big like and subscription
with pensions gone and healthcare in retirement gone no reason to stay with any company nowadays .
And if the environment is not helping, then there is no point in staying indeed!
Many years ago. I was asked to train someone to do the work I do. Nobody knew how to do the job, and I pretty mutch learned how on my own. Then they put me on a performance improvement plan for something someone else did. I refused to sign, handed over my badge, and walked out. They were left high and dry. Then they really started to loose money big time, and it was really hitting them on their profit, and loss statement.
Years ago, I remember hearing in the news about fired post office workers, coming back on the job & going postal. 🔫😂
But its not worth it. Just apply for unemployment benefits, while looking for another job.
And if you happen to figure out that you are about to be let go; Just quietly, start looking for another job.
Because you just might found another job before you are let go.
Most of the time you usually get something better anyway. 💪✊
Here is a secret: Your job experience, usually helps you to get a better job, often with better pay somewhere else.💡👌💪🌟
All of the mentioned signs, especially 3,4 and 5 are a spot on
Thanks a lot!
all this sign happened to me and I was put in PIP..PIP is really hell..I hope I didn't experience that again..at the end I was forced to resign..I have worked really well with previous manager..but the new manager didn't like me and she want to take employee that she trust..and the blame game is real..everything blame it to me..even small matter..
Thank you for helping me heal from the many experiences where I have been psychologically abused, gaslit and had damage done to me in the form of depression, anxiety, fear and outright abuse as a hard working , courteous,helpful and thoughtful person with a disability.
Even though the disability is not one that affects the work I do as it is manual labour. I always feel I am started off on a lower playing ground of value. Even though I work non stop even doing more than I'm asked to try to make everyone's life better.
I just started my work in a school 2 weeks ago and the leader of the team I am in has already shown her dislike towards me. In the first 3 days of me working, she told everyone (including the school coordinator) that I cannot do anything. She would critize me about everything in everytime. She also avoids my presentation when I'm around her and limits any kind of interaction & conversation with me. Tbh I really REALLY DO HOPE to get fired asap rather than to stay and work together with toxic leader. I cannot resign yet since I am working under contract until mid 2025.
Thanks for posting this! I wish i would've realized sooner. Thanks for helping me reflect on this. Have a great day!
You are very welcome! Hope things are not that bad and even if they are, at least you can be prepared for it in a certain way. Thanks for your kind feedback and keep me updated on how it goes!
Excellent video and information to say the least. I’ve been through all the crap he listed expect the PIP. I did 11 years for a huge DOD company and made them money through my efforts on proposals only to be fodder in the end. Sorry to be “jaded” but if you’re loyal to a company you’re a fool. I got a good severance package but the stress wasn’t worth it.
His video is really good as it hit 90% of the “slow death” techniques my old company used.
You just nailed it, "slow death techniques", that's a perfect description of the whole process. I am not saying that the employee is always right, but even if one wants to learn, improve and get better, they can still easily get rid of you and make your life a living hell.
At least you are now out of that place, step by step and you'll be feeling better. The damaged self-esteem, which these situation produce, is soon going to be fully repaired. Thanks for stopping by and for sharing your story. Best of luck and if you have any related questions, I'll be more than happy to help!
Same for me, DOD, going through it right now, so I am working on my resume.
I was given in PIP back in March, I tried to get better in my job, unfortunately I still lost the job in April. I'm still on the job hunt right now.
This is a very good and informative video. Everything he says is spot-on and most are what I saw in my old job, hence I resigned and got a better one.
A company that I worked for a few years ago had an HR director and she was my boss. When she came into the office and I said Good Morning, she avoided me. She would go to a lady sitting near me and loudly greet her with happiness. I was laid off, not fired because there were other people laid off during Covid but, I remembered she told me when I first started working there that she laid off some people because she didn't like them. I must have been a person she decided to lay off. I was so happy because I don't want a boss like that.
😢😢😢😢😢apologies ,dude .
Highly demotivated and disenfranchised seeing your story ...
This cruel lady needed someone to put her in her place , apparently she looks like she is emotionally verry weak and can't tolerate anyone critiquing her .maybe she was a sexist feminist !
Maybe , she was a highly susceptible to the looks theory : You might be am average Joe. 😂😂😂😂
You are right about the stigma on being fired. Not cool at all, all the interviews become harder to pass because of it
Yes, but we can choose how we'd like to view this.
My boss actually told a colleague not to CC me on emails so I wouldn't know whatever our client really wanted
How did you find that out?
I experience some of this and my boss was very rude to be until late December on a Friday night, it was about my hours being cut 😑 that’s when she was being nice to me again but I still ended up leaving because of how petty that was
It's like she psychologically punished and manipulated you, so you wouldn't oppose/react strongly to your hours getting cut.
You must have experienced more drama at that place, it's good that you left!
My boss ignored me, never listened to me when I tried informing her about not being trained properly with correct information, tried telling her how coworkers were isolating me and not trying to give me correct info because they’d all say I was her favorite, workplace mobbing…. The list goes on 😂
She was finally happy when she took me to another department saying I’d be trained to take over someone’s position because they were about to go on vacation and no one wanted to learn his machine since it was one of the most difficult in the building.
An hour into being trained, I get informed I’m permanently staying in that department by someone else 😂
I’m staying a few more weeks just so the guy can take his vacation because he’s so sweet and actually trying to help me learn what he knows but afterwards I’m out
What about when your hours are constantly being cut? What about when Human Resources are giving you dirty looks or directly laughing at you every time they see you? I had this one part-time job where I kept on asking for more hours, but my hours kept on getting reduced. One time, I said to my supervisor, "You could have put me in that slot there." His reply was, "Just leave the schedule the way it is." Next week, it was the same position and we had the same conversation. About one month later, the supervisor walks up to me and said, "George is retiring from the company and we are doing a collection for a retirement gift. Do you want to contribute?' My reply was, "You keep on cutting my hours and now you are asking me for money? Here is what I am going to do. All those hours that you took away from me, that's my contribution to this guy's retirement gift." His reply was. "Okay, forget it."
It's sign 5 for me. They hired this girl that soon replaced me
That's very typical.
This happened to me too.
your videos about company politics and internal agenda are really the best out there
Thank you so much!
My manager's manager was mentoring me. She found a better position at another heath care organization, and left. My manager proceeded to fire me and the other two employees who had been hired originally by her boss. Everything at the organization was done on the cheap.(Two of the three positions had required professional licenses. This manager demoted the jobs to avoid having to pay a fully qualified professional. When serious legal complications ensued fourteen months later, the manager was fired without notice.) My question: how/why is there zero professional oversight in some of these places? Their very existence is brought into jeopardy by managers who attempt "cost saving" measures that ultimately ruin the organization. Then, remaining management refuse to take responsibility for past chaos that almost destroyed their own careers.
I don't think the American work force is in good shape at all. I write this in August, 2022, during a period of enormous inflation and recession. Even though they're already short-staffed, many organizations continue to hemorrhage employees. The American economy is in free fall and there doesn't seem to be a bottom. I am very glad that I no longer have to work.
Sue them!! You have grounds!! And sue the manager who terminated you!!! Take them to the cleaners!! And this BULLSHIT is going to continue in this BIDEN GLOBALIST ECONOMY! All these layoffs and firings,and in June,they hire college graduates for a dollar a hour above minimum wage!! This DIRTY game has happened several times in the last twenty to thirty years and this is how companies cut costs,but end up getting KARMA at one point when they go bankrupt because no one has a clue what is going on!!!! Or know how to do WORK!!!
Office environment is very stressful it’s very bad for your health. Many go through a big burn out.
I dunno. The two times I've been fired, I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.
Really? I am about to quit this horrid place but worried about getting paid every week. I have been thinking about that feeling of being relieved after I quit or if it will be an opposite feeling lol
@@dirtymig0pp772 It's better to get yourself fired. Just make sure it's nothing that would be your fault. Getting fired just doesn't hold the stigma that it used to.
@@rrahh8789 how do I get my self fired ?
@@dirtymig0pp772 Put in the bare minimum. Say no to anything outside your job description. Document everything so that you can say you did your job and only that. Just don't do or say anything criminal. However, the biggest no-no on a job is to give your honest opinion about something without regard to offending someone. That's how I got fired the second time around.
@@rrahh8789 your telling me that if I do manage to get fired, I will be able to collect unemployment while I look for another job ? Because I hate this place I work at so much
I like the way he frames it as you being a human and this not defining your existence. Being fired is emotionally disturbing. Its social rejection. There was a person studying the KKK as infiltrated it and was socially rejected by it or something like that. Even though the person hated the organization in the first place, they still documented it hurt to get rejected.
I was fired 2 weeks after my promotion to supervisor. Had been there for 1 year, and had 3 raises total. My last raise, I was moved into salary. Then they canned me. Wow.
That's ridiculous. They must have been happy with your job, giving you raises and promoting you. Did anything happen during these 2 weeks at the new role?
@@myemmotion Nope.
My first background check, they were fine with it. Up for the promotion, second background check. They let me go.
@@mrtwister9002 Post-employment background checks can't be used as a reason to fire someone, especially after previous background checks/raise, etc. There must have been someone else going on, either way that is extremely unprofessional from their side. They could have at least given you a certain reason/explanation.
@@myemmotion
Thank you for responding. Your comment is encouraging. I plan to file with the EEOC and am currently applying for UI. This whole experience has been heart breaking for me. On a side note, they NEVER offered me a chance to explain, they said, "We spoke to HR and there is nothing we can do." The report was a state wide search, they fired me for a conviction that wasn't even on the copy of the report, as the conviction was in a different State.
@@mrtwister9002 You are very welcome, I definitely know what you mean. It's an emotionally draining experience which affects your health and peace of mind. File that complaint, they had all the background search done while hiring you, nothing had changed a year after.
Best of luck and keep me posted!
You rock Marat! 🌸🙏
Thanks a lot my friend. So do you! :)
I’ve been let go for no reason. At least they wouldn’t tell me. It was three years ago and I still get pissed thinking about it.
I have recently realized why I get panic attacks at jobs is because of past job abuses that took places and though I keep getting back up bc nobody else will pay for my bills, I have become traumatized/have work-related ptsd .... The symptoms are a real struggle and they are real.... How do I get past this trauma bc I don't want it to come ntrol my life
I thought I saw all ur videos but I haven't. Signs of getting fired is very relevant for me right now
Really? Do you feel you might get fired?
Jr IT Support at a publicly traded company. I have solved 99% of tickets on the same day; always professional and polite to everyone; took multiple initiatives; helped company save money on new security camera systems; started a comprehensive IT asset database; resolved issues they used to deal with by reinstalling Windows...many more to list.
3 months later my manager said to my face "I can grab a high schooler off the street and they can do your job". I have resolved many issues that he failed to. I also caught an IP belonging to a hidden device somewhere that was seeding torrents & mining cryptos, to which he said was not that big of a deal. Gave me the ultimatum today - accept 2 months of extended probation and behave, or walk.
The sooner you get out of there, the better. With a manager like that things can only get worse.
Do you think it’s rather toxic, when a recruiter phones you up and says your too overqualified for the job, but they might interview you because they can’t find anyone else?
It does sound very "off". Did they evaluate you for the job on the phone? Was this their "next steps" after finishing the phone interview? Or did you just receive a call for them to say only that?
The PIP is one of the despicable methods to fire employees
Yes That's what Happened with me too, excluded in alot of meetings and projects and then put everytwo weeks performance reviews
portrayal, add-ons, process ... outstanding!!
Thank you!
Add ons
Eye rolling & head shaking watch for them signs.
I'm gonna be anticipating this to make it my goal for 2021
Haha, getting fired?
Lmao I don’t blame you 😂😂
@@shutit4024 That's like putting it on the New Year's motivation list, haha.
lol
This video is giving me so much anxiety!! 😰
projects get slow due to external factors, manager gets defensive and tries to allocate as much blame as possible onto one subordinate
No one person can fire anyone in my company. It takes a process (1 warning) (2. Formal warning accompanied by a trade union rep) (3. No improvement - a team looks at the issues, and you may be fired) But this may also mean being placed on performance management. However, this may end up in a tribunal case, which is free for an employee to file. If you're being excluded from info that would enhance your productivity, it's definitely a case for tribunal case for unfair dismissal, and as long as it can be proved, there could be a hefty payout.
Your company sounds awesome.
helpful thankyou, just the talk speed is a bit slow - I think it should be X 1.25 speed
Tbh I hope they let me go one thing I’m not gona do is stress
I’d say getting left out of key info is bad at my job, but it literally happens to everyone. They just suck.
Thanks for your video. I have those signs now. I used to get along well with my manager until she knew i am an honor person who dont cover her ass. Now she is retaliating me.
One good sign in my experience is if the boss is selling the company/or getting new management and they literally tell you, "Don't worry about a thing. You're fine. You're not getting fired. Nobody is losing their job. We're just making new changes to the schedule but everything is fine. Just come in your usual time and we'll talk about it later when we get things settled."
If you hear that, "RUN!!" But another way to know if you hear hints from your coworkers.
The problem with HR Pros is their qualifications don't cover Group Dynamics or any Management knowledge whatsoever. As a former victim of bullying and a holder of a Diploma in Management, I can tell you that Micro Management isn't necessarily a sign of bullying and can be mistaken for insecurity by misuse of Leadership Style eg: Exploitive Authoritative - a common mistake made by even experienced Managers, and should not be taken alone as a pre-cursor to Termination.
Managers make the mistake because they aren't actually qualified eg: they don't hold a Management Diploma at all, as their main credential is in another subject. Most are nothing more than a semi-decent admin type, and business admin is not difficult to grasp - but Managers they most certainly are not, hence the reason for bullying in the first place, which is - inadequacy......
Most are incompetent, the very thing they will almost certainly try to get you on. So you suggest applying for jobs, which means resignation time - actually that's the last thing you should do - as once you leave, you cannot gather evidence and it's more difficult to take action under the umbrella of 'constructive dismissal'.
You must gather evidence and take them to an employment tribunal.
Wow, this sounds so familiar. Last year I was laid off on 4/1 due to loss of business from COVID. The manager who recruited me to the company (a friend) had left a few months earlier after only being there around 8 months. That was bad sign #1. I was pushing 50 and the average age at the company was around 25-26. Bad sign #2. I had a conflict with the director above me. Bad sign #3. I'd just come off of a bad employee review (many items I could tell came directly from this director I hated). Bad sign #4. Then, one day I came into work with 4 or so new team members out of the blue! They'd been transferred in from other projects that had been cancelled. I was asked to onboard another person with my title, but lower salary and half my age. A couple of days later I got the layoff notice. Strange deja-vu based on what you're saying.
That's how it works, just as one of the comments pointed out, it's a slow death and they do it step by step. There is hardly anything you could have done to be successful in such situation. The worst part is the stress, because it's a huge psychological pressure.
And it's incredible how they've also asked you to onboard these people, that's like sticking to the manual 100%, without even trying to hide it. In most cases, such managers/companies want to intimidate you first, so you'd leave your job by yourself, which for some people is completely out of question.
I hope you are in a much better place right now, you have so much to offer, any company would be lucky to get you onboard!
@@myemmotion Thanks. My layoff was really just accelerating the inevitable. Pushing 50 at a company where the median age was mid-20s just felt awkward. I found a much better job!
@@wulfbak I am so glad to hear that! Best of luck!
Useful and on point how company’s firing people
Thank you very much!
These are terrific signs. Thank you.
Spot on, I've experienced 5 out of 7 and was fired
I hope you are in a much better place now!
@@myemmotion not sure if I am lol
@@markstone7219 It can't be as bad as before :)
Greatest advice I’ve heard
sometimes it is a blessing
Happened to me, my boss brought in someone else, asked me to train him on one ofmy accounts, saying that he wanted the new guy to help me woth the work. My boss thought I was dump, but i had the information earlier enough... I trained the guy with full dedication, and in 2 mos, we had become great buddies with the new guy and learnt we had studied in the same foreign country.
My boss yelled at the new guy once and he got a taste of his own medicine. 3 mos, he decided he didnt need this guy. He called me to a meeting and revealed his hidden agenda. I asked him to continue with his plan, stating the guy was a great fit for the replacement, esp with my cauching.
The guy was transferred to another dept. We remained great buddies though which pissed my boss.
1 yr later, the new guy left the company for better.
...dont forget, You Can also Fire your Company!
like in an job, the danger foreseen is half avoided...
Absolutely.
Thank you for all your videos!!!!
this is on point and motivating at once
Thank you!
Alot of this happens in consultancies every 3 years
You are the best adviser on You Tube I have found about this topic.
I can't thenk you enough for the exsistance of your chanel!!!!
Every sigle word of yours hits the home!!!! 🙏🙌❤️
You 100% on point. Am experiencing it now. T. U!
I hope you make a video about HR. My impression on how things work with HR seems to be wrong, I trusted them with my case and they let me down. How can I talk to them right?
Thank you for your help and for always valuable content!!!
Unfortunately, it’s best not to discuss anything with HR. They are not the school counselor.
HR is not gonna help
It depends on each situation, but when it comes to your manager involving HR isn't a good idea. Especially if you don't have concrete and proven evidence against that person.
@@clint120 You are right. I'd definitely suggest being careful with what is discussed.
@@stepinside Sometimes they might be really helpful, just not when it comes to the discussed issue.
These are very good points. I would add that if the company has you doing menial task outside of the scope of your JD, (for instance, having you come in in Jeans and a T-shirt to move things around) it shows they don't respect you. That is a good sign that you're about to go.
A new manger, _or new ownership,_ can mean bad news. They may keep key people in place for a year or so in case they need them, and then sayonara. Best to just leave.
Also, if the company says that they will retrain you on a new system that's replacing an old one, they're most likely lying. Plan to be told goodbye when they're confident the new system is running smoothly. Just leave.
If they ask you to write a job description, say goodbye. If they ask you to train a new employee, tell them your training fee is $300/hr. (I'm not kidding).
A PIP is not only a bad sign, but they will make it unfair, and try to trip you up if they can. Also, if they're giving you a PIP, it's only a matter of time. Bye!
Don't be afraid of your managers, or even the owner(s). If you can defend your situation/performance, do it before you leave. Let them know what was unfair about their treatment of you. if they're treating other associates better than you for the same thing, point that out too.
Have a GTH (go to hell) fund, or have a side hustle to fall back on so you can leave immediately, and on your own terms. Don't give them time to react, and don't give them a 2-week notice. If they are replacing a whole department of, say, 5 to 10 people, being the first one out the door will do you well, as it means you're not competing with your co-workers for available positions at other companies. Corporations don't give a flying four-iron about you, and will throw you under the bus to save their own skin; no remorse, and no regret. Who do you think pushed for the _at will state_ laws? They don't worry about you; don't worry about them.
If you think your company is phasing out a department, and you find work at a place where there are multiple openings, call your former coworkers and tell them you found a place that's hiring pulling them away from your former job before that company is ready.
Never, ever, take a counter offer. If you do though, get it in writing, ask for double you salary, a minimum time frame for them, make it one sided (your side), and have an attorney review it. Make them pay for the attorney.
A workaholic "overperformer" and a kiss-a** employee can shift your manager's perception of what is considered acceptable performance for that position. A coworker might seem busy all the time and it might seem that they are answering more emails than you but what the manager does not notice is the amount of mistakes they make that go unnoticed or the time they waste fixing those mistakes.
Yes but then trying to find a new job while still on yoru current one is the trick. Finding work and getting noticed and hired can be a big problem.
Thank you ❤
My current situation. I'm federal, dealing with workman compensation, knowingly false accusations, harassment, discrimination, etc.
My post is trying to accomplish 3 things with me. Death, fired, quit
They've violated my rights in many ways. People say im a punk for not getting into a physical/verbal altercation with me.
(No matter how right you're. DO NOT do this. Get them on paperwork, file a lawsuit, etc.)
I remain professional and mostly non-verbal. Document everything. What sucks too is that the entire post, Director, Zone Mgm, etc are all in cahoots with everyone. Bad behavior is promoted.
I know I have a strong case of EEO, Workman's compensation, and a piss-poor union. Sadly, they will never be held accountable. You will be fired. People have to worry about their families and paying bills.
I was the victim of illegal discrimination by the SSA in Jax Florida. I let it go and did not file any type of formal complaint as it was an entry level position which was nearly all black females and being a white man I just wouldn't fit in no matter what.
Things are very toxic between my boss and I and all I want to do is my job. I was returning the toxicity, but it is really beneath me to return tit for tat. Thanks for your great advice and tips for us to maintain our peace as best as we can. Have a good weekend!
Love it
Thank you so much!
I wish I had this advice 6 years ago.
How about keeping your employer on their toes until you are ready? I remind them that I plan on being there for another 10 years.
Marat the content is very useful thanks...but the background sound is quite disturbing.
You are very welcome Arjun! A while ago I ran a poll and seems like a lot of subscribers prefer a background music, I understand that some can be distracting. Thank you for your feedback!
Great Tips ☺️
Thank you so much!
Marat's inspiring videos enabled me to carry on with my job! 👆
Thank you so much!
How long did you work at the company for? It’s an unnecessary emotional weight which you need to get rid of! Believe me, no one would care about it, if you stop caring about it yourself. I think speaking about it and letting what’s on your mind go would be helpful.
Not sure if the comment got deleted by the OP or by the YT.
Can you tell that you are being manipulated at work so your boss can have a reason to fire you? he CCed those who have nothing to do with my job,so weird
Thank you for the tips Im lookin forward to what to do when fired video
It depends what you mean. Do you mean that your boss is trying to set you up for a failure?
Great content! TY!!!!
Unfortunately if your employer wants to fire you, not much you can do
I was terminated from a job just over 2 years ago but was still considered a good employee by my former manager.
It led to severe mental health issues but am now back to working part time.
It’s always a traumatic experience and it takes some time to process and heal. How long have you been working at this part time job for? Is it also helping to regain confidence and self-esteem?
Officially since Jan 2020 but had to have a break for a few months because of my MH issues. I'm on the autistic spectrum so it hit me even harder than it would most. Since July 2020 I've been back there continuously and yes it's helped with my self confidence.
I'm also doing a part time counselling course alongside and I'm hoping that will improve my communication skills.
@@MRBAIN1231 And you are doing all the right steps. It's also positive that your manager considered you a valuable employee, which isn't common for someone who's been fired.
Our mental and physical health is always a priority at any job, so it's important not to get too involved with the drama of the toxic workplace. And once we are out of there, we need to focus on our recovery to feel happy and satisfied both at work and in our personal lives!
Sign number 8: youtube just suggested this video
*when you're passed around like a bad penny or put on more and more impossible or boring assignments.
*when you section has been systematically eliminated.
Those can be added to the list.
@@myemmotion BTW I would recommend if you need more time before being let go to do something controversial that gets you noticed. Like disagree with the diversity and inclusion stuff or make a stink about inappropriate affirmative action actions the company does. Then they'll think twice. They will get rid of you but not all at once. I made a stink about them mandating 1/3rd of the board has to be women pointing out the equal pay act of 1964 and I think that delayed me getting let go.