Atheist Reacts To 'Focus On The Family' and All Their Harmful Rubbish

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  • @RachelOates
    @RachelOates  2 роки тому +133

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    • @alisaurus4224
      @alisaurus4224 2 роки тому +1

      But Rachel, how will you get a godly man to marry you & give you babies if you brazenly flaunt your cleavage on the internet? Mend your ways immediately, hussy! (Heavy /s)

    • @ximenamichell
      @ximenamichell 2 роки тому

      Thank u for sharing queen

    • @edvh88
      @edvh88 Рік тому +2

      It looks beautiful on you!

    • @justsomebloke6784
      @justsomebloke6784 Рік тому +1

      Great to hear a genuinely decent human being making their case.

    • @Palestinian_holocaust
      @Palestinian_holocaust Рік тому

      ATHEISM AND FEMINISM IS DEEPLY ROOTED IN COMMUNISM. So far your VIDEOS SHOW THAT TOURE A VICTIM OF CULTURAL MARXISM INDOCTRINATION

  • @RoastedSaltedPeanut
    @RoastedSaltedPeanut 2 роки тому +211

    the funny thing is that if you didn't brainwash your kids, they wouldn't ask why 2 men are holding hands. they would just see it and accept it as something people do and go about their day.

    • @ImaginaryAlchemist
      @ImaginaryAlchemist 2 роки тому +4

      They're only drawing attention to it and making their child think about it more. Just not saying anything and moving on would be the best.
      It's odd that homophobes spend so much time thinking about gay people. They probably think about gay sex and relationships more than actual gay people

    • @MrMali22
      @MrMali22 Рік тому +1

      Yep, but as soon as you point it out they'll just deny it and say they question it because it's not natural. I've seen it. They willfully brainwash their own children instead of teaching them how to think for themselves.

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +12

      yup, it's not that hard to just say "some daddies like doing that" and go on.

    • @dustinbigheart3667
      @dustinbigheart3667 Рік тому

      If they can't understand that too men can't conceive a child maybe it's best to brainwash them with religion lol

    • @MidoriTaka
      @MidoriTaka Рік тому

      You know, this is normal in some countries. Timeframe and culture. It’s not hard to figure out why people are for or against certain things. You just want where ever you are to be aligned with what you know to be right or good.

  • @IT_217
    @IT_217 2 роки тому +331

    Regarding the rise in numbers of LGBT people that they are so scared of, same thing happened with left-handed people after schools stopped caning kids for using their left hand when writing. People weren't suddenly being born left-handed in larger numbers, they just weren't being beaten into forcing themselves to use their right hand any more.

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup Рік тому +27

      This! The same thing happened with autism in the 70s-80s; there weren't suddenly more people being born autistic, we just got better at noticing the signs and diagnosing the condition!

    • @DaveLH
      @DaveLH Рік тому +11

      Speaking of caning, I'm looking forward to when Rachel does a video on James Dobbs' / Focus On the Family's views on "disciplining" children.

    • @Raptor810Blue
      @Raptor810Blue Рік тому

      It’s easy to prove you are left handed. It’s not easy to prove you are ‘trans’.
      We should also acknowledge that it is now popular and quirky to identify as trans, so therefore more kids will choose that identity even if they don’t have a clue what it means.

    • @deronawuah2136
      @deronawuah2136 Рік тому +9

      It's not quirky or popular lol. I know like 2 openly trans ppl cuz it's such a small community. Even when you look at all celebrities a very small minority of them are trans.
      I think the reason that you think kids only do popular things is bc previous generations literally had no personality and just wanted to fit the status quo. Nowadays kids just do whatever they want and pretty much just do what they find interesting or aesthetically pleasing.

    • @Raptor810Blue
      @Raptor810Blue Рік тому

      @@deronawuah2136 It literally is. Have you seen the teens on TikTok who made pride flag and gender compilations? Literally thousands of kids are now identifying as trans simply because of a social contagion.
      You wanna talk about ‘no personality’? What’s more showing of a lack of personality? A kid who goes outside with friends, or a kid who identifies as made-up genders and slits their wrists? Riddle me that…

  • @Dither87
    @Dither87 2 роки тому +145

    One thing I'm thankful my mom did was explain gay relationships. She told me about her gay brother when I was a young teen. She handled it in the way parents SHOULD do it. "They love each other like mom and dad, but they're the same sex." It's literally that easy.

    • @JM-ot8ux
      @JM-ot8ux 2 роки тому +10

      Huh. My mom figured if she never talked about her brother we'd never know he was gay. Took naive me a while to figure it out.

    • @bmoe4609
      @bmoe4609 2 роки тому +8

      They love each other like we do there is no difference. Except they may have to use a different method to have kids

    • @ImaginaryAlchemist
      @ImaginaryAlchemist 2 роки тому +15

      My mom did a similar thing before I met my cousin and his husband. She just casually told me he was married to a man and they lived together. It wasn't a big deal at all.
      She's pretty open-minded about things, though I did have to explain bisexuality a bit more when I came out.

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup Рік тому +3

      I had a pair of gay uncles and all I understood was they love each other like my parents do (actually better, considering my parents divorced over a decade ago and the gay uncles are still happily married in their 70s), they had mean, yappy little idiot papillons, and they played the coolest RTS games.

    • @Rinniantoinette
      @Rinniantoinette Рік тому +1

      @@bmoe4609 agree, I was so disappointed when a kid told me that trans woman could get pregnant. And I had to explain, that no they can never get pregnant because of their biology. Education is important, one thing is being kind and another thing is to confused the children

  • @rebeccawiens4224
    @rebeccawiens4224 2 роки тому +89

    Unfortunately I'm very familiar with this. When I was outed to my parents, they used all of FOTF's talking points. They sent me back to my Christian counsellor who was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" and said words that saved my life "I have no problems with your sexuality." She was much more concerned with the massive betrayal of trust that led to me being outed.

    • @everest5718
      @everest5718 Рік тому +7

      That’s so great your counsellor was able to support you like that, no one deserves to be outed at all :(

    • @carmensavu5122
      @carmensavu5122 Рік тому +8

      Your counsellor was more like a sheep in wolf's clothing.

  • @popppy113
    @popppy113 2 роки тому +209

    I've been watching your content for a couple of years now. when i first started watching i was such a horrible bigot, i was really struggling. you have played such a big part in me becoming accepting of others and myself. now i have realised that im queer, i still live in a non-accepting household, but im on my way out, and you remind me that there are people out there who will have no issues accepting me. thank you ❤🌈

    • @irishalchemy
      @irishalchemy 2 роки тому +24

      Congratulations on discovering a new part of yourself! Your found family are out there somewhere, and I hope you find them soon. You deserve all the love and happiness.

    • @popppy113
      @popppy113 2 роки тому +11

      @@irishalchemy thank you ❤❤🌈

    • @edvh88
      @edvh88 Рік тому +14

      You’re very brave to be open to changing, and being open to who you really are and accepting that identity and person. I wish you many more years of growth, and a happy and safe and accepting place in the world. 💜

    • @popppy113
      @popppy113 Рік тому +9

      @@edvh88 thank you so much! i wish you a well too. i love when people take the time out of their day to just be nice. it really is sweet ❤🌈

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup Рік тому +2

      That's wonderful news!
      We 👏 stan 👏 growth 👏

  • @CoreenMontagna
    @CoreenMontagna 2 роки тому +303

    A former employee wrote a memoir called “Refocusing My Family: Coming Out, Being Cast Out, and Discovering the True Love of God” which was really good

    • @not_you_i_dont_even_know_you
      @not_you_i_dont_even_know_you 2 роки тому +37

      Ooo that's a good recommendation. I grew up in a family that loooved Focus on the Family. Lots of unpacking and trashing bad ideology to do...

    • @shanenanigans27
      @shanenanigans27 2 роки тому +55

      The author was also the CEO of Focus on The Family's daughter. She was gay. God I can't imagine growing up like that I feel so bad for her.

    • @not_you_i_dont_even_know_you
      @not_you_i_dont_even_know_you 2 роки тому +41

      @@shanenanigans27 well as a queer kid who grew up evangelical, lemme tell ya it's no picnic.

    • @jasonworks1454
      @jasonworks1454 Рік тому

      @@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you I saw focus on the family and Mike Pince, Dr Phil, Dr Oz, Dr Dobson, and Dr Huxtable necrophiliac orgy nightmares started.

    • @jasonworks1454
      @jasonworks1454 Рік тому +5

      @@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you Kenneth Copeland, Matt Gaetz, Matt Powell, Kent hovind, Jim Baker, and Pat Robertson all have the same effect on me. Same kinda trafficking. They have slightly different fetishes, mostly age, race, not breathing...

  • @isaacbenrubi9613
    @isaacbenrubi9613 2 роки тому +197

    As a Greek person, I find it simultaneously hilarious, sad, and infuriating that some people seem to think that "the world" or "sin" is "making" people gay. As if being gay was some sort of modern thing.
    Have you seen my people's art? Have you read the stories of the gods? Gay people have existed for a VERY long time. Hell, the term "lesbian" is derived from the Greek island Lesbos; and "sapphic" comes from the poet Sappho of Lesbos, who... you may not believe this... was a lesbian. (Or at least it's heavily implied. Greek history is hard sometimes.)
    TLDR: LGBTQIA+ people exist. They existed in the past. They'll exist in the future. Get over it and keep out of other people's business.

    • @knuckles543
      @knuckles543 Рік тому +23

      also the greek myth of Tiresias (man cursed to live as a woman for a year), Loki in norse mythology is arguably; if not definitively, non-binary or Gender Non-conforming (the bugger can shapeshift).
      hell i was taught that every human is created as a female, then the chromosomes kick in and then your body generates the physical characteristics of whatever it gives you (intersex peeps be like ''fuck thy binary'').
      ahh sappho, the ''she has MANY female friends'', if that isn't a euphemism for lesbians i dunno what is

    • @liranpiade4499
      @liranpiade4499 Рік тому +2

      ​@knuckles543 also, medical transitioning changes your sex characteristics, your place on the sexual spectrum is mutable

    • @miaomiaochan
      @miaomiaochan Рік тому

      The anti-LGBT crowd needed to create a convincing narrative to keep the donations coming in from the ignorant and gullible. If LGBT rights weren't made out to be a sinful, corrupting force and a grave threat to "traditional values", how would the grifters line their pockets with hate money?

    • @JordanS-ww4eu
      @JordanS-ww4eu 3 місяці тому

      Amen

    • @OopsIDidItAgainUh
      @OopsIDidItAgainUh Місяць тому

      Well said! To add to your points, in Kamasutra there are tips for homosexual couples to have healthy intercourse and sex lives as well. It's a very ancient text, so if homosexuality is a "new thing" how did it get mentioned in Kamasutra? Because it is not.
      There are architecture and paintings from both ancient and olden times that shows sexual and romantic acts between people of same gender and people in costumes, so even this "crossdressing for sexual gratification" isn't a new thing. There are real people recorded in texts, as well as characters in the legends and mythologies from India, who identify as both men and women, are gender fluid or are whom we call today drag queens/kings.
      In conclusion, queer people have been here, are here and will be here!

  • @lindseystein9676
    @lindseystein9676 2 роки тому +287

    They really seem to think kids are stupid. Letting kids know some people are gay/bi/trans/etc isn’t some earth shattering thing for them and it’s not hard for them to understand. I was watching a show with my son a few years ago when he was 4 or 5 and the show had a lesbian couple as one of the character’s parents. My son asked about it, so I said something like “sometimes kids have 2 moms or 2 dads.” & he just said “oh ok.” It wasn’t a big deal. These focus on the family types make it a big deal, unnecessarily. It’s kind of funny (and sad at the same time) that these groups are so anti lgbt because of a very likely mistranslation in the bible.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +21

      I didn't even see this mentioned on TV until I was around 12 or 13 and watching sit coms at peak viewing times. I asked my mother what a homosexual was and she said it was a man who didn't like women. I thought she meant a man who avoided women altogether or was a wife beater. But that didn't make sense to me because if he didn't like women what was he doing at a party where there were both men and women.

    • @GeneralBolas
      @GeneralBolas 2 роки тому +43

      "They really seem to think kids are stupid."
      No, it's quite the opposite. They know it's easy for children to understand homosexual relationships. *That's what they're afraid of!*
      After all, if their parents tell them "gays are bad", but society tells them "gays are good", those children might believe society instead of their parents. And then they might grow up to question what *other* things their parents said.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +16

      @@GeneralBolas When I was a teen though homosexuality wasn't talked about much and when it was it was in hushed whispers. This was before the AIDS crisis of the 80's which brought it all out in the open with the Don't Day of Ignorance campaign started by the UK Government when heterosexuals were dying from AIDS as well as gay and bisexual men. The film Pride released in 2014 and the TV drama It's A Sin in 2021 brought back memories of that period.

    • @Aziara86
      @Aziara86 2 роки тому +38

      It's not some huge thing.
      My daughter saw a picture of a lesbian wedding at 5 or so. She just looked at me and asked "Ladies can marry other ladies instead of boys??" When I told her yes, she said maybe she'd marry her best friend because "boys are stupid".
      She's 7 now, and she says she's going to marry a boy in her class.
      Neither of us made a big fuss, and she wasn't shocked or had her world rocked.

    • @ImaginaryAlchemist
      @ImaginaryAlchemist 2 роки тому +13

      Exactly! When I was young I met my openly gay cousin and his husband. I just saw a happily married couple and didn't think anything of it. It's really not as deep as they think.

  • @august1837
    @august1837 2 роки тому +54

    10:51 “it becomes more about seeking pleasure, or self fulfillment,” literally made me laugh outloud. Oh no something that will be pleasurable and fulfilling what has our society become

    • @hermithefrog629
      @hermithefrog629 2 роки тому +6

      It sounds absurd to you because those things are minor parts of life for you. For them, human life is quite literally meant to bring "greater glory to god" despite god already being the "greatest being."
      So anything that makes people turn away from God (and the church by extension) and focus inwards is bad. That's why dancing and music and art all tend to get banned at some time or another. Another aspect is that Yeshua was shamed for his low birth, and very likely internalized that shame. That's where his (or perhaps Paul shoved the words in his mouth) teaching about how "if you look upon a woman and desire her, then you have sinned with her in your heart."
      He made even thinking sexually a thought crime to be on par with the actual thing. It's where a huge amount of dissonance comes, because as we are sexually reproducing we can never fully escape such thoughts.

    • @ImaginaryAlchemist
      @ImaginaryAlchemist 2 роки тому +11

      @@hermithefrog629 If that's how they want to live their lives then cool, literally no one is stopping them. People who *don't* want to live that way shouldn't be forced to. That's the main issue here.

  • @LunaMoth_Love
    @LunaMoth_Love 2 роки тому +33

    I was raised on Focus on the Family. Seriously. It was all around us. I am now 30 and no longer Christian and I had forgotten about them until I saw someone bring it up a couple months ago. Let me tell you, the religious trauma, oh my god.

  • @august1837
    @august1837 2 роки тому +62

    I’m closetted bisexual nonbinary in a muslim family. My parents never brought up lgbtq people ever, cause we live in a country where it’s illegal to be gay and therefore there isn’t really an lgbtq presence so there hasn’t been any reason to bring it up. I had no idea what my parent’s views on lgbtq people were but assumed they were not positive because of the religion, and my assumption was proven correct.
    One day my mom suddenly was like, me and my friend were talking about those gay people the other day and whether we should “accept” them or not. Like on one side we should accept each other’s differences and on the other hand they go against humanity and are pushing it on everyone. What do you think?
    My closetted self did not want to pretend to be homophobic but also I didn’t want to give myself away so I was like, if they’re not harming anyone then what’s the problem.
    And my mom hesitated for a second and I was sure the logic of that statement hit her for a moment. But then she was like but they against nature and god’s plan so we can’t accept them.
    It was clear that she was grasping at anything to justify her homophobia cause logically she knows it doesn’t make sense, but there surely must be a reason why this is wrong because god said it is.
    I genuinely feel bad for those people. If you remove god out of the equation they would be able to see how nonsensicle their arguments are, but they’re blinded with this god is always right mentality that it even forces them to go against their own morals

    • @thecelticdruid7707
      @thecelticdruid7707 2 роки тому +10

      As I said before, it's much safer to stay in the closet. Homosexuality is still illegal in about 72 countries, some is punishable by death. LGBT football fans have been strongly advised not to go to a match in Qatar because of threats. It's ok to be in the closet. It's nobody's business, value your privacy.

    • @sadfaery
      @sadfaery 2 роки тому +9

      I'm sorry it's such an unsafe situation for you. I hope you will have a chance to live in a place where you can be yourself at some point in your lifetime.

  • @PidgeyHowler
    @PidgeyHowler 2 роки тому +657

    So sick of people using religion as a way to hate on others. I'm a trans man dating a cis man and while I am in no way religious, my partner absolutely is, and at no point in his life did he ever think the God he believes in would condemn our relationship. In fact, he believes that very being would want us to be happy as ourselves. There are plenty of religious people out there who don't use religion to be a tool, plenty who condemn the very concept.

    • @Itri_Vega
      @Itri_Vega 2 роки тому +69

      The thing for me is, if, by christian ideals, we are all supposed to follow the design of their god, and trans people exist, doesn't that mean that trans people are within the margins of said design, meaning he would love us (I'm trans too, hence us) as much as cis people? Hate makes no sense.

    • @popppy113
      @popppy113 2 роки тому +29

      exactly my experience! as a religious queer person i think God loves ALL love.

    • @Lirin
      @Lirin 2 роки тому +2

      So you’re a woman dating a man.

    • @PidgeyHowler
      @PidgeyHowler 2 роки тому +24

      @@Lirin Thanks for transphobic response. No, I'm not a woman. Have not been and never will be.

    • @mathewhill5556
      @mathewhill5556 2 роки тому +2

      @@Itri_Vega To play devil's advocate. You could argue that God's plan is not immutable. You have been given free will as an image barer of God and thus can decide to follow your own will, or the will of others, and not the will of the creator.
      Mythological thought would speak to of the Angel Lucifer, who questioned God's decision to give humanity free will.
      Lucifer means the bringer of light, he was the most beautiful angel, and right hand of God himself. Until he argued that free will was too great a tragedy. He believes Humanity, like the angels should not be able to turn away from God's will, as the suffering would be too great to bare. He is stripped of his titles and rank of Archangel, and given a new title, that of Opposer, or what is commonly known as The Satan.
      The fall of The Satan and his 33% of angels rend the world in two. The subsequent fall of Man is was separates us from divinity, and causes us to live in a world of suffering, that we create. Precisely because we have our own will, so people can choose to do horrible things, and some do, and what's more even if you don't manifest your will in a way that directly harms others and makes the world worse for everyone, including you, you are probably not living up to what you _could_ be.
      Most evil is banal. It's the book that wasn't written, the art not made, the love not cultivated. Most "good" people don't fully manifest their potential, leaving the world bereft of their greatness. The love, life, and beauty that _could_ have been.
      This is all just a story, but I believe that makes it more powerful not less.

  • @theprofessionalfence-sitter
    @theprofessionalfence-sitter 2 роки тому +84

    What baffles me is how those people seem to think that someone who is up to no good would rather go through all the trouble of transitioning than just ignore the law and walking into the wrong lavatory.

    • @amberinthemist7912
      @amberinthemist7912 2 роки тому +29

      Yep. Like there's a psycho out there totally willing to cross so many boundaries of basic human decency in order to SA someone but ignoring the signs on the bathroom door is a bridge too far. But I guess if you spend decades surpressing your critical thinking with fundamental religion it ruins your ability to follow basic logic.

    • @ImaginaryAlchemist
      @ImaginaryAlchemist 2 роки тому +18

      Exactly. Someone who just wanted to be a predatory creep wouldn't go through the process of medically and/or socially transitioning, legally changing their name, legally changing their gender markers on IDs, etc. It can be a very long and involved process, and people who just want to be creeps probably wouldn't go through that effort. It makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds, which is apparently too much to ask of these bigots.

    • @variansloth
      @variansloth Рік тому +16

      too much of an ask to consider how difficult trans people have it, especially when they frame transitioning as something "easy" to do. too many stories are like "we can't let kids think they're trans, bc then they will just walk into the doctor's office and get surgery!" like..... my man, what 😭even if that was the case, all the money and time involved like please think for a moment. if someone wanted to walk into a bathroom to commit a crime, they will just do it. they're breaking a law, maybe several, what do they seriously care for any other laws?

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 Рік тому +1

      Yes, it is the magical stick figure on the door that magnetically repels someone who doesn't identify as that gender from entering for nefarious purposes! 🤣
      Seriously, it is beyond my powers of comprehension how transphobes actually think they things they do (and I hope I never do comprehend it).

    • @beccangavin
      @beccangavin Рік тому +5

      Yeah. I tried to look up how many actual instances of this sort of crime we had on record from a source that was fully invested in protecting young women from predators. They were able to scrounge up 7 instances over a ten year period across all of North America. The predators were not actually trans women, they were men using it as a defense after they had already been caught for trying to enter female spaces. I would say with confidence that this is a weak argument as other statistics show that forcing trans women to use male spaces DOES actually put them at higher risk of assault.

  • @LePurpleAndGrey
    @LePurpleAndGrey 2 роки тому +62

    My parents subscribed to the Focus on the Family’s magazine when I was a kid. My first exposure to the concept of being gay was a picture in one of their magazines of a wedding cake with two grooms. I’m sure I read many negative articles about homosexuality just because I was very curious about the topic. And would you look at that, now I’m a lesbian 😅

    • @madimiss
      @madimiss 2 роки тому +6

      How educational! Haha, I love how they blame actual lesbians of indoctrinating children in schools while they do it in newspapers.

  • @popppy113
    @popppy113 2 роки тому +265

    im a closeted lesbian, when i was trying to subtly test the waters to see if i could come out to my parents, i told them that i think lgbtq people deserve respect and that christians need to stop treating them like shite, my dad told me to read these articles by focus on the family to "learn the truth"

    • @ilikecookies9796
      @ilikecookies9796 2 роки тому +32

      Ouch........

    • @schabernack.
      @schabernack. 2 роки тому +43

      I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope you will find an accepting community which treats you kindly, and as long as you can't change where you are find other ways to connect with people that respect you. 💫 some stardust for a brighter future

    • @popppy113
      @popppy113 2 роки тому +13

      @@schabernack. tysm for the love ❤

    • @thecelticdruid7707
      @thecelticdruid7707 2 роки тому +28

      It's much safer to stay in the closet, there is still a very high level of homophobia. It may be the 21st century but from what I have seen the LGBT community are just tolerated and not accepted. There is homophobia in the police, the army and in sports. Only the law has changed, not attitudes, there is still a lot from the 60's generation. Section 28 was not that long ago. I took my son to pride and I met a Christian and he wouldn't shake my hand because he thought I was gay. There is still a lot of hate not fear, it more disgust than anything, you only have to look at UA-cam comments on pride videos to see the statistics. Please be cautious, please be careful.

    • @popppy113
      @popppy113 2 роки тому +28

      @@thecelticdruid7707 for sure. im gonna wait until its much safer to tell my parents (if i tell them at all) and im also moving to a much safer country soon. 🌈❤

  • @hexonyou
    @hexonyou 2 роки тому +54

    i know that if people like this viewed my family they would probably be horrified at the boogeymen they would make up about us. I'm non binary trans masc, on T, pansexual. My partner is NB and asexual. We've talked to our kiddo about bodily autonomy and responsibility for his actions, compassion for and appreciation of the differences of others, growing up + sexual urges (as well as a clinical understanding of what sex means/is). We haven't balked from the hard conversations about what our son faces in life, or what we ourselves have faced in our childhood. According to people like this, I'm sure there would be pearl clutching and dogwhistle shouts of "abuse/grooming" because we prepared our son for being a compassionate, competent, confident and self-aware person; someone who makes choices that benefit his growth as a person, while showing love and respect to others. As someone who grew up catholic and went to a private catholic school k-8 (my partner went to catholic school k-12th), I am not sad that my son missed out on the literal indoctrination for... being informed about the actual world (and people) around him.

    • @hexonyou
      @hexonyou 2 роки тому +17

      also: this section about how to approach your child when they say "I'm gay" I'm just like... god, this is how so many kids come out and think their parents are supportive only to then get constant manipulation from their "well meaning/loving" parents and feeling confused by the whole process. I've seen so many trans kids post about their parents telling them this exactly, then badgering their kid back into the closet by gaslighting and undermining their identity after the fact.

  • @margarine4error46
    @margarine4error46 2 роки тому +27

    Growing up, I was a mega fan of a FotF radio drama called Adventures in Odyssey. Looking back as diagnosed with ADHD and suspecting autism, I finally understand why I was so obsessed with this kids' show even into my teens. It was my comfort zone. They mostly emphasized Christian values I agreed with, such as honesty, kindness, etc. When they finally aired the episode explaining their views regarding LGBTQ+ people and God, I was heartbroken. I knew they never had any character diversity regarding gender, sexual, or romantic minorities, but I never thought this comfort fantasy-land would preach that LGBTQ+ people need us to pray for them to change their minds or to not associate with them. After almost a decade of devoted tuning in and merch collecting, I decided this was the last episode I would ever listen to. It felt like I was breaking up with my fictional friends, but I couldn't accept that a loving God could condone bullying anyone.
    And by the way, years on years of listening to Christian radio does not work for keeping the gay away, since I've realized I'm bisexual!

    • @EternalDensity
      @EternalDensity Рік тому +6

      Me in my teens: Jessie on Adventures and Odyssey is really cool
      Me in my thirties: oh I'm a trans girl :o

  • @MusikGirl23
    @MusikGirl23 2 роки тому +20

    Focus on the family’s James Dobson was/is truly scary. My dad had the book ‘the strong willed child’ which clearly advocates child abuse. And although I experienced much more abuse at the hands of my mother (physical and emotional neglect, medical neglect), it took a while as an adult for my dad and I to reach an understanding…that he had not known better but knows better now. Children.are.Not.for.hitting. Any other member of society and it’s abuse and punishable but most countries still allow it against some of the most indefensible members of society. It just makes me so mad.

  • @FeministCatLadySpinster
    @FeministCatLadySpinster 2 роки тому +42

    I used to live in Colorado Springs (FotF HQ) and it was wild. Bench signs warning about how the end is nigh... and fundie families visiting the Garden of the Gods. I always wondered how they explained that to their kids.

    • @hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095
      @hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095 2 роки тому +1

      Is it me or does this give off People‘s Temple vibes?

    • @mattwong5403
      @mattwong5403 2 роки тому +5

      The one thing I know about Colorado Springs is that Focus On The Family is known for turning the US Air Force Academy into a breeding ground for Fundamentalist Christians.

    • @someonerandom256
      @someonerandom256 2 роки тому +6

      My aunt and uncle lived there and my aunt worked for FOTF as an editor for years. They sent their kids to an expensive private Christian school and all three came out as either atheist or agnostic🤣

  • @AurorasAura4417
    @AurorasAura4417 2 роки тому +65

    "being gay often becomes part of a person's whole identity"
    Hell yeah it does, and I will never change >:)

    • @morgianasartre6709
      @morgianasartre6709 2 роки тому +3

      That's really sad though

    • @sadfaery
      @sadfaery 2 роки тому +8

      I mean, if we didn't have to actively constantly fight for the right to live and love without fear of violence and discrimination and live with the threat of losing family, homes, and/or jobs if you come out to the wrong person in the face of massive attacks against us by organized religion and entire political parties, maybe it wouldn't be necessary to make it such a prominent part of our identities, but since this IS the world we live in, it kinda has to be if we're going to be able to live in this world.

    • @morgianasartre6709
      @morgianasartre6709 2 роки тому

      @@sadfaery Yeahhh, but that's only the case if you do not live in the western world.

    • @sadfaery
      @sadfaery 2 роки тому +10

      @@morgianasartre6709 I live in Florida, in a very religiously conservative part of the state. Have you not seen the news about the attacks over the past 2 years against the LGBTQ+ community in Florida by our extremist far-right Republican governor Ron DeSantis, our extremely far-right Republican-dominated state legislature, far right-leaning school board members throughout the state, our state Board of Medicine and Board of Osteopathic Medicine, groups like the Proud Boys who make their home in Florida, and a certain former U.S. president who rose to prominence on a platform of bigotry and hate? Those attacks include attacks on schools, libraries, universities, public AND private businesses that train their staff on diversity, access to medical care, businesses that host Drag Queen Story Hours or Drag brunches, and more. And that's just 2021 and 2022. The 2023 legislative session won't start for a few more weeks, but I'm sure we'll be seeing even more extreme anti-LGBTQ+ legislation coming our way within the next few weeks now that our state legislature, thanks to extreme gerrymandering, has an even larger Republican majority than it did before after the November 8th mid-term elections. Given the kinds of bills the Texas legislature has already proposed this year, I'm expecting much of the same to happen in Florida this year, since Ron DeSantis and TX governor Greg Abbott seem to be playing a game of far-right homophobic and transphobic legislation leapfrog, each trying to outdo the other with every move in terms of how much more homophobic and transphobic their policies can be (I specialize in public policy professionally and I've been following policymaking in Florida for more than 20 years, so I'm pretty confident of my projections for what we can expect in the coming legislative session). These bills are extreme. And they are very, very dangerous for members of the LGBTQ+ community, especially people who are transgender. So yeah, we have to constantly keep fighting for our rights because our government is actively working to take away rights we already have and prevent us from access to rights afforded to us by federal legislation and recent Supreme Court decisions like Bostock vs. Clayton County, GA. After all, I can't afford to just quit my job, break my apartment lease, and move across the country to a state that isn't actively attacking my community without a new job and a new home already waiting for me, nor can most LGBTQ+ people in Florida. So instead, I stay and fight to maintain the rights we currently have and to try to prevent losing any more rights than we're already losing. I stay to protect my community from the attacks of the far-right extremists governing our state. The only two options are to fight or to lose everything. I've already lost too much. So I will fight alongside my LGBTQ+ friends, family members, and neighbors to protect the rights we've spent the last several decades working towards. Because we are under constant and escalating attack by our state government.
      Or is Florida no longer considered part of the western world?

    • @jbattin3034
      @jbattin3034 Рік тому +4

      Yeah the troll is going to ignore the prejudice just because we got gay marriage or something.

  • @kew8036
    @kew8036 2 роки тому +47

    Hey Rachel, I’ve been a fan of your content for about 3 years now. I just wanted to say thank you for making such insightful work. It really helped me when developing my own opinions! You are a fantastic role model for young women everywhere ❤️

  • @JaneDoe_123
    @JaneDoe_123 2 роки тому +33

    It's a huge pet peeve of mine, when someone says "culture is against my religious beliefs". Love, you just don't know what culture means. Every religious sect has its own culture, what you have issues with, is that the culture you like clashes with the culture you don't.

    • @8114梦见
      @8114梦见 2 роки тому +5

      It’s like how my mom constantly claims that she doesn’t have a religion like others, she has a ✨relationship✨with god

  • @mattfrank85
    @mattfrank85 2 роки тому +129

    “Harmful Rubbish” is such a razor-sharp indictment of right-wing propaganda said in the most polite accent possible and I need it on a shirt.

  • @a.s.1484
    @a.s.1484 2 роки тому +28

    I love how bubbly and expressive you are in this one! Your sass is *chef's kiss *

  • @kaylasteines9007
    @kaylasteines9007 2 роки тому +26

    Some of these people are worried that ciz men will put on a dress and wig and walk into the women's bathroom and rape women. That's one of the reasons why they're so afraid of allowing trans people to use the bathrooms they want to. It's honestly one of the dumbest things because a man could walk into the women's bathroom regardless of how they're dressed. It's not like every time you go to the public restroom there's a bouncer that checks to make sure you're going to the proper bathroom. It's honestly so fucking stupid that I don't have the right words to describe how ridiculous it is.

    • @PurpleHeart99
      @PurpleHeart99 2 роки тому

      A man is more likely able to get into a women's restroom if he's dressed the part. If a masculine man is trying to waltz in, there would most likely be people upset and a lot of stores have staff all around. There is a high school that allows "trans girls" in the female bathrooms and a boy put on a skirt and claimed they could go in and they ultimately ended up r@ping a female student. The school didn't try to help her or change policy. They blocked out the victim. That girl has trauma forever. As a survivor myself of SA when I was a kid, I can tell you that the pain does not cease completely. It's increasing the risk of SA. Also, having it so boys and girls are sharing a locker room is also dangerous and again increases risk. Why should the girls have to change in front of guys? Anyone that truly has gender dysphoria needs to be cared about and helped but compromising other people's security is not the way to do it. In a lot of schools and other places they do have a singular restroom so if someone doesn't feel comfortable using their genders then they can go change privately. That's one way to approach it. Embracing delusion and making it so we as a society might actually have a r@pe culture develop is illogical.

    • @CraftyVegan
      @CraftyVegan 2 роки тому +4

      By their own logic, they should ban priests.

  • @mollyoconnor9365
    @mollyoconnor9365 2 роки тому +83

    It's true, I, as a bisexual woman cannot be friends with anyone. I don't have friends, only girlfriends and boyfriends. I make a new female friend? Oops, we're dating now. New male friend? Dating. No one is safe.

    • @AnimeShhiinBlender69
      @AnimeShhiinBlender69 2 роки тому +6

      this is gold lol haha

    • @-alovelygaycat-
      @-alovelygaycat- Рік тому +13

      Me, a pansexual: **breathes heavily**

    • @dogearflopper7011
      @dogearflopper7011 Рік тому +13

      ALL 👏 BIS 👏 ARE 👏 VELOCIRAPTORS

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +3

      same.........but on the bright side i got a harem army.

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup Рік тому +1

      Also bi, can confirm. I can't avoid sleeping with friends. Even getting a BF didn't help; he's also bi, now we share dates. Send help.

  • @Hannahleighhamay
    @Hannahleighhamay 2 роки тому +34

    “Do you have a gift receipt, because I’d like to return it please” …this sent me 😂

  • @B.H.56
    @B.H.56 2 роки тому +24

    I like the bumper sticker I saw, "Focus on your own damn family."

  • @isabel7798
    @isabel7798 2 роки тому +17

    I was SO surrounded by focus on the family content growing up, it was a major part of my childhood. Now it's wild looking back on it critically. Their messaging is honestly so gross.

  • @SwanofWar
    @SwanofWar 2 роки тому +17

    I grew up listening to Family Life Radio - Focus on the Family's radio program growing up in my fundie household. I'm so disgusted as an adult to learn all the horrible things they've said and done that I had no idea about growing up.

  • @someonerandom256
    @someonerandom256 2 роки тому +42

    I grew up with Focus on the Family, and my aunt worked there for many, many years. I even subscribed to their magazine when my kids were little and exposed my kids to some Adventures and Odyssey stuff, which I remembered fondly from my childhood. Fortunately the really hardcore indoctrination stuff never sat right with me, and I just couldn't bring myself to force some of the most harmful ideology on them, mostly just fictional stories. So they grew up with Adventures in Odyssey, some Veggie Tales, a little CS Lewis, a few Bible storybooks, and sporadic attendance at some more mainstream churches. I'm an atheist now, and was deconstructing for nearly a decade before that, so most of the indoctrination stopped when they were still in elementary school. I feel horrible about all of it, but at the same time I was a product of my environment and when I learned better, I did better. I try not to let the guilt keep me up at night. I did not ever raise my children to be homophobic, because my favorite brother is gay, and I just love him to bits. I was never able to reconcile how anyone, especially a Christian, could hate someone for such a stupid reason. What I feel worst about as a parent is not letting my kids be themselves as much as they should have. I'm so glad to have my blinders off, but I'd give anything to have never had them on in the first place. My mother was the type to crush your spirit and bring you to heel in every aspect of life, and she thoroughly believed in the validity of the Satanic Panic. I try to tell myself that I could have been SO much worse, but the guilt is still there.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +6

      Veggie Tales wasn't too bad as it was reviewed on the Fundie Fridays channel and she said they were quite moderate. We grew up with The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and other books in the series as an easy introduction to The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. But give me His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman any day. Unfortunately the latter wasn't written until the 90's. I got into the books as I had just been to Oxford for the day and it was set in Oxford. I had lost one of my pet cockatiels early that year and the surviving one was very clingy for two weeks so the daemons reminded me of her then.

    • @sunnyandthechlo
      @sunnyandthechlo 2 роки тому +6

      Everyone makes some mistakes in parenting, it's inevitable. Luckily kids always grow and develop their own ideas and usually even challenge things they were taught at some point. I think you did the right thing, it isn't bad to grow up having a religion, especially with a parent who understands that not all religious people have your best interests in mind. As long as you love them and try your best I think they'll see that and understand.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +1

      @@sunnyandthechlo That would depend on how sheltered the children were. I grew up in a non religious home but went to schools where religion was shoved down our throats and they weren't even faith schools. Some non religious parents are sending their children to faith schools, in the public or private sector, just so their children get a 'better' education as exam results are good or because they think there is less violence in them as in the film Ladybird. Some children grow up in religious homes but attended public shools in the USA where worship and religious education was banned. But it's a double whammy when a child grows up in an evangelical Christian home and is home schooled or attends a faith school.
      Fortunately the commercialisation of Christianity was yet to come about when I was a child so there were few openly Christian singers or bands and novels. No specialist TV channels or radio stations.

    • @someonerandom256
      @someonerandom256 2 роки тому +1

      @@lemsip207 My kids went to public school until they were all in middle school, and then I started homeschooling them, because the school system and some of their peers were eroding their self-esteem. I was deconstructed enough by that point that we had decided to teach our children to question everything they were told, even by us. We taught them how to do their own research and to draw their own conclusions. Yes, we occasionally prayed at meal times, and read a few family devotionals early on, but that was about it. Doing our best to raise skeptics who can think for themselves in the time we have left.

    • @sunnyandthechlo
      @sunnyandthechlo 2 роки тому

      @@lemsip207 I was talking about OP mostly, sorry should’ve tagged them. I meant that judging by the way they sounded, they didn’t do a bad job and shouldn’t feel guilty.

  • @Grace.steele
    @Grace.steele 2 роки тому +62

    Its hard to emphasize just how much focus on the family specifically was around for me growing up, my mom was a very hardcore christian and I was raised in a megachurch (shadow mountain community church in california) and so whenever we werent listening to christian music radio it was focus on the family radio, every day for like 30 min a day at least in the car etc, and its wild to look at them now and what they’re saying and doing vs what i thought of them as a child and im constantly wondering how much of that i still carry around without even knowing it, especially as a lesbian

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +2

      The same with No Greater Joy run by the Pearls. If I saw books written by Dobson or the Pearls on the bookshelves of a cell group leader I would get very suspicious of them. Incidentally church cell group leaders would host, 'facilitate' or rather indoctrinate and provide refreshment whereas in the secular world and Buddhist groups those roles are shared. The organiser rarely facilitates as it's too exhausting to do both. People bring food to share. But when roles are shared it prevents the do-gooder from doing it all.

    • @LunaMoth_Love
      @LunaMoth_Love 2 роки тому +8

      We listened to the radio show every single day before school. I remember really really enjoying it as a child and now I look back at it and cringe really hard. I'm 30 and bisexual now.

    • @Grace.steele
      @Grace.steele 2 роки тому +6

      @@LunaMoth_Love the focus on the family radio listeners to lgbt+ pipeline is real lmao

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 2 роки тому +2

      Fortunately for me I grew up with the BBC Light and Home stations on the radio during the day in the school holidays which later became Radios 1, 2 and 4. There weren't the commercial radio stations back then other than illegal pirate stations. Later the BBC started regional stations such as Radio Wales and commercial regional ones started such as Capital, Red Dragon and Plymouth Sound started. Only with digital radio we got stations such as Absolute, Magic, Smooth and Kiss. No Christian broadcasting at all.

    • @bmoe4609
      @bmoe4609 2 роки тому +1

      Yup we didnt go to a mega but i went to a baptist one (i actually like the pastor). But it was klove 24/7. I mean they songs are bops still (i just dont believe in it) and better than the worship black music. Im black but we all kw the extra singing and reapeated verses. Their literally a song that repeats grateful 24000 times lol

  • @saintbastien69
    @saintbastien69 2 роки тому +17

    These kind of sick resources are exactly why I have trust issues! My parents, when I came out were saying the "good" things like they loved me. even eventually saying they supported me. Things that made me feel accepted. But eventually it became clear they were saying stuff with the hopes that I would change or that they could influence me away from homosexuality. The whole church community was "praying" for me and looking down on me and being passive aggressive, it was a horrible cult isolating time in my life. No hate like Christian love!

    • @OdinsSage
      @OdinsSage Рік тому

      This is why I won't come out to my parents. I'm less afraid of direct hate and more worried they'll play sweet and kind but be slipping in microagressions to "convert" me. I would rather face the direct bigotry.

    • @thatwolfensteinguy8954
      @thatwolfensteinguy8954 Рік тому

      What a horrible way to view Jesus, Jesus loves us sinners, the sin of homosexuality is no bigger then the other sins, you obviously should not be singled out for it, because im sure the ones who did are 100 percent just as sinful.

  • @AidenFeltkamp
    @AidenFeltkamp 2 роки тому +30

    Thank you for tackling this! Their beliefs overshadowed my childhood and they’re just awful

  • @RexxyRobin
    @RexxyRobin 2 роки тому +14

    10:49 "in this non-biblical human-centered view"
    I actually love that they phrased it like that.
    One of my major issues with most cultures and most ideologies (not just conservative ones) is how they never really center humans as people.
    Human needs and feelings are deemed unimportant, we are often taught to disregard our own ideas and emotions etc.
    Instead most cultures are to some degree caught up in the pursuit of higher meanings/ higher goals than supercede human wellbeing.
    Suffering is 100% acceptable if you are doing what god or nature or the cosmos intended.
    I have come to the conclusion that the true definition of fascism is when people value culture over people and these bigots comfirming that they find it to be sinful to center humans in your values and politics just shows how ghoulish they really are.

  • @SteampunkTigerlily18
    @SteampunkTigerlily18 2 роки тому +9

    Ooh yes, PLEASE do a FotF series. I grew up hearing it on the radio as a kid, every day and my entire childhood. So glad it's getting called out now

  • @jessilovely
    @jessilovely Рік тому +9

    When I was still in the church I was told by a lot of people (including cis men I considered friends) that male and female can’t be friends because they might have sex LOL! And here I was sitting, a raging bisexual/pansexual thinking “well I guess I just can’t have any friends because we might fuck“. Also, I never saw what was so horrifying having sex with friends but I guess that just makes me a pervert 🤷🏽‍♀
    I grew up with Focus on the Family and by GAWD I’m still recovering a decade+ later

  • @Itsatragedeigh
    @Itsatragedeigh Рік тому +7

    My whole “sex and puberty” talk was a focus on the family tape. My dad was soo into FOTF that he let an old white dude on a tape tell his daughter how sex and puberty worked. My mom and I were supposed to listen to it on a roadtrip to a hotel/spa (girls trip to learn about bodies and what not). Luckily, we got like 15 mins into the tape and my mom turned it off and was like this is bs and just straight up told me about all that good stuff and we had a lovely weekend. But FOTF is wild.

  • @florianopolis6299
    @florianopolis6299 2 роки тому +15

    Hey Rachel..I kinda just love the snoring you have sometimes in the background of many videos now. I have to admit I'm sometimes looking forward to that. Makes me smile every time.

  • @Havanah-ov4yt
    @Havanah-ov4yt 2 роки тому +9

    This is wild. My parents always took every word from this company so seriously, that I was barely allowed to watch or read anything fun growing up, even scooby doo and wizards or waverly place, just cause FotF told them it was bad. I constantly got in trouble for doing normal things like watching power rangers or drawing cutesy innocent anime characters

  • @matthewgracey1894
    @matthewgracey1894 Рік тому +4

    Great comments here. Congratulations to all the folks who have shaken off family expectations and societal norms, finding yourselves in the process. Rachel, in short, you ROCK!!!

  • @madimiss
    @madimiss 2 роки тому +9

    Fun fact: the Focus on the Family founder interviewed Ted Bundy on the dangers of pornography. Guess what he inevitably blamed his psychopathy on?
    Yeah, I’m never stepping foot near that building ever again.

    • @-alovelygaycat-
      @-alovelygaycat- Рік тому

      Dear fucking lord

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +3

      ted bundy: holy sh1t he's actually buying it, this was a good way to spend my last days.
      james dobson: golly gee p0rn is so bad i see no reason the mysoginistic s3r1@l k1ll3r who murd3r3d innocent women for enjoyment would lie to me.

  • @michiganscythian2445
    @michiganscythian2445 2 роки тому +9

    “Homosexuality might confuse boys!”
    So, I guess they aren’t allowed to read about David and Jonathan in the Book of Kings?
    “Mom, Dad, what’s a bosom and why is David resting his head on Jonathan’s?”
    “Um …they’re just good friends.”

  • @jonathanstern5537
    @jonathanstern5537 Рік тому +5

    Here are my three fixes for the bathroom problem as I see it.
    1. make stalls where there are no gaps between the door and the frame and have the door and walls reach the floor.
    2. have a small fine for people who piss and shit on the toilet seat.
    3. make washing hands mandatory for all.
    I'm sorry, I want three things from my bathrooms, functioning plumbing, cleanliness, and privacy.

    • @RachelOates
      @RachelOates  Рік тому +2

      I find it so so so bizarre that number 1 is even a problem in America. In the uk we just don’t have that issue at all.

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому

      yup.

  • @joshuaciresoli2927
    @joshuaciresoli2927 Рік тому +3

    What's worse is that Focus on the Family's leader (James Dobson) got started in political rhetoric with the Supreme Court case Bob Jones University v. Internal Revenue Service in the early 1970's. He advocated the position that Bob Jones Uni (a private fundamentalist Christian college) was persecuted when the IRS revoked their tax exempt status over segregation on campus and discriminatory admissions practices (trying to maintain "whites only" policy). The origin story is despicable and so it is today.

  • @abc-bo9sc
    @abc-bo9sc 2 роки тому +5

    The sad truth is: actual sex offenders, who would not hesitate to brutally violate their victims boundaries, would not care which public bathroom they are allowed to enter anyway...

  • @janetkizer5956
    @janetkizer5956 Рік тому +3

    You are so much braver than I am. I have visited the website of Focus on the Family several times ans have been unable to actually read anything there, for fear of the rage that I figured would overcome me. But having you read those articles and critique them is a big help. We need to know our enemy and understand him.

  • @tallgrrl1
    @tallgrrl1 Рік тому +3

    Focus on the Family has been around for many decades (my Catholic mother was reading/using their materials 40+ years ago) and it was no less toxic.

  • @seaportsthename
    @seaportsthename Рік тому +3

    for my first birthday after coming out and moving states, my grandma sent me a dvd of a sermon called “what the Bible says about homosexuality” and since then (going on 8 years) she has only sent me religious items for my birthdays.
    but they wonder why i refuse to “come home”. i told my mom i’m quite literally the exact same person i’ve always been, the only difference being who i date now but somehow i’m going to hell for that? how could i ever believe that??

  • @while.coyote
    @while.coyote 2 роки тому +11

    If it's so easy to turn kids gay just by showing gay people holding hands, then you just turn them straight again by showing them straight people holding hands. Heck show them twice as many straight people holding hands so they get a double dose. Surely that's how it works.

  • @zedamyann12
    @zedamyann12 2 роки тому +7

    This kind of rhetoric caused me so much sadness in life. Not realizing that I was gay and non-binary early on caused me so much trouble.
    It’s so dangerous to be teaching this to kids but they’re too busy projecting to see it 🤢😭

  • @Pa5an1
    @Pa5an1 2 роки тому +10

    That reminds me of that time when I pushed the evil gay agenda on two innocent 5-year-old girls.
    It happened at our sports club, they were giggling and telling each other “you’re gay!” - “no, YOU’RE gay!” back and forth. This happened in Germany, they used a word that’s only used for homosexual men. So I casually asked them if they know what gay means. More giggling, then they told me it means that you’re in love. I told them that’s correct, but it’s specifically when a boy is in love with another boy. Their eyes grew wide and they stared at me for a moment, then more giggling, some “oh, I see” and that’s it.
    I bet they’re still traumatized and also gay now. Or boys.

  • @irishalchemy
    @irishalchemy 2 роки тому +27

    This is wild. I can't imagine parenting in a way where my end goal is for my child to choose to repress who they are and live a life of godly misery... These people are awful.

  • @bearowl4101
    @bearowl4101 2 роки тому +5

    When lefthandedness stopped being seen as sinful, there was an increase in the reported number of lefthanded people. Does that mean more people turned lefthanded? No, more people simply felt more comfortable admitting they were lefthanded.

  • @duanewilkinson9739
    @duanewilkinson9739 2 роки тому +3

    Rachel I just love the sarcasm and spice in this video…. Your on brilliant form xx

  • @rosaliajane8562
    @rosaliajane8562 2 роки тому +7

    The sass is educational comedy gold! Keep being awesome! 😊

  • @aster1749
    @aster1749 2 роки тому +3

    The biggest thing about my uni’s inclusive bathrooms (we are all mostly commuters in my country) is visitors being visibly confused. We have a good laugh about it

  • @applebygfriend
    @applebygfriend 2 роки тому +11

    Have you ever heard of the UA-camr Reads With Rachel? She's a fellow Rachel making videos on books & also fundamentalist Christianity on here, and she was raised fundie and learned from FOTF and has made a couple of videos on it! I think you guys might really like each other and she's also just made a lot of nice videos if you wanted to learn more about FOTF or more specifically it's founder, James Dobson

  • @high_ryze666
    @high_ryze666 Рік тому +2

    My parents live by focus on the family, they forced me to watch the truth project like 3 times while I was growing up, they are so into this bs. So of course when I saw you covering them I was all "ooooh this is gonna be gooood"
    I was not disappointed. Great video

  • @MoviesMoveMe
    @MoviesMoveMe 2 роки тому +6

    Growing up, my family listened to Focus on the Family and James Dobson all the time. 😑

  • @caseymckenna7111
    @caseymckenna7111 2 роки тому +11

    Man.. they’re still sweating the bathroom stuff, huh?

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +1

      the ONLY people who should be banned from public restrooms are conservatives and t3rfs.......i mean they constantly want to check on g3n1t@l1@ and obsess over the bodies of everyone (including children) in that restroom....it's not safe for us with them in it......or near it.......or in the restroom of another building.

  • @jasonaltig985
    @jasonaltig985 Рік тому +3

    I’m 49 and remember my fundamentalist parents listening to that focus on the family stuff with us. They’ve been F’ing people up for a long time. I was absolutely terrified and hated myself growing up when I figured out I was bi. Screw those bigots.

  • @johnmalinsnz2090
    @johnmalinsnz2090 2 роки тому +6

    Thanks for another great video, Rachel, you keep giving me new and interesting ways of looking at things, like the fact that there are more LGBTQ+ people because it's safer to come out. It seems obvious to me now, like why didn't I think of that, but it makes total sense.

  • @fionafox420
    @fionafox420 2 роки тому +2

    I just started watching this video, and the title alone gave me childhood trauma flashbacks 😬
    My parents were REALLY into Focus on the Family.

  • @Furball891
    @Furball891 2 роки тому +32

    Every time I run into this kind of stuff, I count myself very lucky to have grown in a non-religious, non-judgemental household. I grew up as a cis woman, and still identify as that, but realized somewhere in my late twenties that I was asexual, and also that the desire to have children of my own would never come. I was in a long term relationship with a man at the time, and he wasn't asexual and wanted to be a father some day. Because of my realizations we broke it off as friends, because I didn't want to rob those chances from him, but also couldn't provide them. Had my upbringing been more strict and judgemental, I see it as a high possibility that I would at this point, years later, be a wife and a mother who resents my husband for wanting sex, child(ren) for existing, and myself for feeling that way. I would be extremely miserable.

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup Рік тому +1

      Same, mostly, though I learned where the line of acceptance was for my father when I came out as bi. Turns out he was one of those "Yeah, I don't have an issue with queer people - but no child of mine will be one!"
      Welp, too bad dad; I eat d/ck *and* box, _and am actually a daughter with extra steps._ How's that old saying go? Oh yeah, "Man makes plans and God laughs."

    • @beccangavin
      @beccangavin Рік тому +1

      When I turned 40, I had a celebration. A personal one. I was too old for people to automatically expect me to want to get married and have more children. I felt like I had reached the finish line. I did grow up in a very religious household so I knew what was expected of me but I also thought it was normal for women to not feel attracted to men and do intimacy anyway. Even as an atheist, I felt the social pressure to do the normal things. Now I feel bad for all of the men that I dated in the past because I just wasn’t capable of providing the romantic connections that they wanted. I was really just going through the motions because that’s what was expected of me.
      I found out later that being asexual/aromantic was an option…and then my sister confessed to me without me saying anything that she was bi-romantic but asexual and then my mom later told me that she was super relieved when she didn’t have to do stuff with her husband anymore. (Not that I asked.) Apparently, this runs in my family.

    • @Furball891
      @Furball891 Рік тому +1

      @@beccangavin I could totally throw a party when I reach the age of being a "(childless, single, old) crazy cat lady" lol. Also you saying that it runs in your family is interesting, because my big sister identifies as ace too (my little sister definetly doesn't though). I have sometimes thought that many ace women in the past must have just gone through the motions of marrying and having children, thinking to themselves that that's just how it is for women, because so much of our society focuses on men "always thinking of/wanting sex". So I could see ace women just accepting that men are sexual and they are not, and women are just supposed to endure it. Never realizing that it's a difference in their personal sexuality. Sad when you think about it.

    • @beccangavin
      @beccangavin Рік тому +1

      @@Furball891 I can totally see ace women throughout history filling the woman’s role in society for largely economic reasons rather than any feelings of romantic attraction and simply not questioning it or morphing it into something mean and ugly like purity culture. Thank goodness for all of the feminists that made it possible for me to support myself without relying on a man to earn my bread for me. I threw a party for all history’s feminists too.
      Joining a convent would have been a great option for the historic ace also.

    • @Furball891
      @Furball891 Рік тому +1

      @@beccangavin good points! I have actually thought that had I lived in another time, I would have gladly gone to be a nun, even though I'm atheist, because I have always found scriptures and theology still fascinating. And living without a pressure to reproduce or marry would have been nice. But definitely all the kudos to all the great feminists before us, who made it possible for me to live comfortably without a husband's money.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 Рік тому +3

    I'm a big proponent of moving towards genderless bathrooms with stalls with better privacy that go from floor to ceiling. I experienced that way back when I visited Italy in 2005. It seemed strange to me at the time, but it makes more and more sense to me now.

  • @squidproductions2923
    @squidproductions2923 Рік тому +2

    When I was little I had anxiety attacks that were debilitating. Sorry for the trauma dumping but it’s important to the story. I don’t remember a whole lot about them but I know they scared my parents and the lock on my door had to be reversed. After calming down from one of these episodes my mom put on an Adventures in Odyssey episode and said this was something she wanted to try out. I could play an episode whenever I was feeling stressed. To this day I remember that the episode was one involving donuts that’s how impactful it was. I would listen about Whit and Conney I shipped Catrina and Eugene so hard. I loved this show so much that I went to Focus on the Family Head Quarters when I was 11 and went down the slide and everything. At that point my iPad had stopped working and I couldn’t listen to the show anymore. A couple years later I found out I was queer. It’s been so heartbreaking to find out what a hateful organization they are. I am glad to say my family accepts me but losing the acceptance of the characters that helped me through the hardest thing in my childhood has cut deep. I don’t know it’s so hard to process my feelings around it.

  • @marissa7085
    @marissa7085 2 роки тому +5

    This is so funny because I just imagine my future kids asking "mom why is that man kissing that woman"

  • @eriskalliste
    @eriskalliste Рік тому +2

    Former (very goth) resident of Colorado Springs
    Unfortunately I missed my chance to flip off Brother Dobson before emigrating to Honolulu

  • @annaallington3603
    @annaallington3603 Рік тому +2

    I’m so glad I finally say this video and laughed out loud at the “gay affirming therapist” part. I am a licensed therapist and work at a building that was formerly a ministry and unfortunately our organization entered into an agreement where they said they would not change the name for 7 years. As a result, parents sometimes being their LGBT+ kids to us thinking we are going to spiritually counsel them and we have to be incredibly clear that our job as therapists is to support their mental health which includes affirming their identity (and treating religious trauma!). I’m not religious and I am LGBT+, so the joke is sort of on the parents, but it still makes me so sad that there are non-affirming therapists out there unethically weaponizing their faith.

  • @TheAdarkerglow
    @TheAdarkerglow Рік тому +2

    You know who has hands?! THE DEVIL! AND HE USES 'EM FOR HOLDIN'!!

  • @Michaelalovespandas
    @Michaelalovespandas 2 роки тому +1

    I would definitely recommend scrolling through Plugged In, which is for all their movie, book, and music reviews. Their handmaid’s tale review had such a lack of self awareness

  • @amberinthemist7912
    @amberinthemist7912 2 роки тому +3

    Fun fact: Dobson was the one willing to specifically tell people that if your child doesn't cry when you beat them it's because they weren't sorry enough so you should always beat your kid until they cried and begged you to stop (of course you were supposed to not be angry while doing this because apparently Christian parenting requires you to be a sociopath). As a child who was naturally stoic and disassociated quite easily this advice quite literally ruined my childhood. Personally I'd love to see the whole organization burn to the ground.

  • @thothmesx1
    @thothmesx1 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video! Early on, you said you had no words (to a specific comment made by the "loving" Christians at FotF), but I think you ALWAYS seem to have plenty of words, words of both rationality AND empathy (with some humor, too). Words that convey how WRONG fundamentalism often is. And I look forward to future videos on Focus on the Family. And although you seem to know the
    cut of their jib, let me confirm; it won't get better..

  • @lynmcgrow9246
    @lynmcgrow9246 Рік тому

    Rachael I've followed you for ages now and over this time you have just bloomed And it's been wonderful and a privilege to watch. You seemed very anxious when I started watching but now your confidence is stunning and how you articulate your content is easy to understand, well thought out and well researched. And you look stunning as well!!!
    To change the subject this content will be interesting looking forward to more. Thanks

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 Рік тому +1

    At University of Oregon they had a dorm hall for upperclassmen and LGBT students. I roomed there my sophomore year with my neighbor from my freshman hall.
    Made some great friends across the hall, some I still hold dear. Was great too because it encouraged a cultural exchange. I considered myself conservative then, but I didn't buy the hating on the lgbt members of society. This was great, encouraging open discussion between incredibly different people in a setting based on mutual respect and consideration. This was what colleges once were like, before safe spaces.

  • @rightsarentpolitical
    @rightsarentpolitical 2 роки тому +3

    These people apparently have never had to pee at a concert, a march where a group peel off at a restroom and line up at both available bathrooms and everyone is helping each other get to a toilet as quickly as possible especially those with young children, or a bus stop / fast food restaurant / etc where you use whatever toilet is available and works. JUST. LET. PEOPLE. PEE.

  • @coconutl0vrr
    @coconutl0vrr Рік тому

    I love Rachel 😊 she’s so nice and informative. One of my favorite feminist athiest UA-camrs !!

  • @Rockieswoobie
    @Rockieswoobie 2 роки тому +3

    I used to live in Colorado Springs and well… most of us have never been impressed. Not letting women in the board room. Making statements about cartoon characters being gay. 94.3 Kilo did a protest by sending people dressed in costumes to the front door offices on the family. They had I believe a SpongeBob and Barney. It was hilarious. Oh and I heard that their bank account might have 666 in it. A video series on this organization would be great. 😊

    • @margarine4error46
      @margarine4error46 2 роки тому +1

      "Colorado Springs, Colorado, eight zero nine nine five" has been burned into my brain

    • @Rockieswoobie
      @Rockieswoobie 2 роки тому

      @@margarine4error46 80911

  • @soapythecleaningclown5055
    @soapythecleaningclown5055 Рік тому +6

    Unfortunately, there was an incident where a trans man used the woman’s bathroom and got beat up by a bunch of dudes. There was another incident where a woman, who I believe was gender nonconforming, used the woman’s bathroom and was harassed by a woman who thought she was a “trans child”. And these are the people who say we are threat, yet they stalk people into the bathroom and assault them even if they are using the bathroom corresponding with their assigned sex at birth.

  • @ferninthehouse
    @ferninthehouse 2 роки тому +9

    trans women get assaulted all the time for just existing without even impeding in men's spaces, so i cant imagine what would happen if a trans woman walked in a men's bathroom. hate to bring up blaire white but im pretty sure she actually did a video of her trying to use a men's restroom and it shows men literally trying to drag her out (i dont support blaire but this was years ago like 3 or 4 and i used to watch her videos sometimes)

  • @graceleathers5970
    @graceleathers5970 2 роки тому +1

    Yes please keep doing this series!

  • @Sentientcrabpee
    @Sentientcrabpee 2 роки тому +3

    Called them The Compound when I lived in CO bc they're just so culty lol I got a bunch of their booklets as a teen for a Christmas present. I immediately knew their booklets were BS bc I had a Wiccan aunt and the FoF book on Wiccan beliefs was so incredibly incorrect it was actually kinda laughable

  • @peskycritter79
    @peskycritter79 2 роки тому +5

    Established religion is responsible for so much hatred in the world. Doesn't make any sense to me but also, as an atheist, a lot about religion doesn't make sense to me. Morality, kindness, compassion, empathy...they don't require a god.

    • @thecelticdruid7707
      @thecelticdruid7707 2 роки тому

      For many Christians being just a "Good person" is simply not enough in God's eyes, we can't do it in our own strength and it doesn't get us into Heaven. The world did not begin from absolute nothing and the big bang is just a theory. If we came from Apes why are apes not extinct ?. Jesus is the focus of Christianity and we can't see the kingdom without Jesus. I don't claim to be an expert on the bible but I believe God made woman for man, but in the same token God loves everyone where as the LGBT community think God hates them, foolish thinking, It is said " Love the sinner, not the sin.

  • @katarina1291
    @katarina1291 Рік тому +1

    My great grandmother gave me a focus on the family subscription as a kid. I got their kids magazine like every month and I remember really enjoying it cause it would have fun games (spot the differences, word finds, etc) and stuff about nature and crafts and whatnot. I was raised Christian and went to a Christian school so it was stuff I already knew. Being ADHD and having a memory deficiency on top of that I barely remember anything from my childhood. Thankfully I don't remember anything specifically from those magazines other than what I mentioned. I never dwelled very much on the biblical stuff cause I learned it all in school and church, I just enjoyed the games and stuff lol. It freaks me out to think what I might've read as a kid but thankfully I don't remember any of it except the fun parts lol.
    Anywho now that I've grown up and I'm deconstructing my faith, I got super into fundie snark circles and the extreme sects of Christianity that are somehow so much worse than what I was told at church and school but also not much different. One day I see something about focus on the family and I'm like huh that sounds familiar. I go into my box of childhood books, bam stacks of fotf magazines. It's so jarring that something I remember fondly was actually produced by terrible bigoted people and had awful "teachings" and ideas.
    My parents were always quite progressive so anything bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, etc wasn't taught and curiosity and different ideas about the world were encouraged. That's probably why I didn't listen to the bad parts or just ignored the articles about beliefs and stuff. Though I don't know if the kids magazines had much actual teachings and beliefs other than the typical bible stories. It still scares me to think of what it could've done to me and my identity and beliefs

  • @yoda5129
    @yoda5129 Рік тому +4

    Sadly I was raised on this crap and it was a part of my religious trauma, they haven't changed since the 90s...not that they ever would.
    Edit; I vividly remember my parents making disgusted noises when lgbtq+ couples would hold hands in public. Kids LEARN homophobia. Thank fuck I learned better.

  • @danniealexander4131
    @danniealexander4131 Рік тому +3

    Sometimes I wonder if certain religious people are just evil. Their religion makes them suffer so they have an attitude of "I'm suffering so you have to suffer too" so they try to make everyone, even non members to their religion, suffer under their religion. People can't just exist and be happy around them.

  • @sanityhasleftme
    @sanityhasleftme Рік тому +2

    My 80 year old gram once told me she checks girls out. She's 100% bisexual but grew up in the wrong era. She closed off those thoughts and pursued the housewife role. I often wonder how different her life would be if she grew up nowadays.

  • @deeanna8448
    @deeanna8448 Рік тому +1

    A therapist who is not gay affirming should not be a therapist. I had a young gay coworker whose parents took him to a therapist as a teenager because they wanted the therapist to "fix" him. Fortunately, the first thing the therapist said to him was "we can talk about your sexuality if you'd like, but I can't change it, and I don't need to because there is nothing wrong with it. If you don't want to talk about it, we can talk about anything you'd like." They ended up talking about school and family stress

  • @blockblock376
    @blockblock376 2 роки тому +3

    I've said it before and i'll say it again: I do not care who's shitting next to me. You can be a purple bison in a space suit I DO NOT CARE just wash your hands when you're done

  • @schabernack.
    @schabernack. 2 роки тому +4

    if the bad hypersexual world is destroying us OF COURSE we have to talk to our toddlers about... homosexuality and how our toddlers have to help healing those sinners?!?! yeah, right. 🤮

  • @prisciladelfino9498
    @prisciladelfino9498 Рік тому

    Thank you Rachel, you help me think about and understand this important issues ❤️

  • @fuhgetabatit1051
    @fuhgetabatit1051 Рік тому +4

    I love the sarcasm while your reading the part of the pride celebration. 😂

  • @SB-ez3dw
    @SB-ez3dw 2 роки тому +2

    I wish my government would stop fkng around with regulating WHO uses WHICH bathroom, and start regulating bathroom construction. American public bathrooms need private stalls.

    • @MusikGirl23
      @MusikGirl23 2 роки тому +1

      I was recently surprised to be at a relatively new restaurant that had only one set of washrooms…so no men vs women. Just stalls that had doors that went totally to the top and bottom. It was a little weird but…it was also very open, well lit, and the privacy of the stalls was refreshing. I hope more can start having concepts such as this. Now, if we could just ensure folks wash their hands properly…

  • @cadencelight7490
    @cadencelight7490 Рік тому +1

    I have a lot of bathroom anxiety because I know/feel I'm not welcome or safe in any public bathroom with multiple stalls as a trans person. This is why I don't drink or eat anything before I go somewhere. The only time I'll use a public bathroom is if it's a single stall bathroom. Because of this, I memorize which places have single stall bathrooms and which ones don't. If I were to try to go, my brain will not let me physically go, no matter how badly I have to use the bathroom.

  • @hajrette
    @hajrette Рік тому

    Listening to this as I'm working on my first big cross stitch project, which is of a photo from my and my wife's wedding. 💜
    Didn't know it would be so fitting to the team of the video xD

    • @RachelOates
      @RachelOates  Рік тому

      Ooh good luck with the cross stitch project! That sounds amazing and I hope you’re enjoying it :)

  • @sunnyandthechlo
    @sunnyandthechlo 2 роки тому +5

    If the 'women' sign above a bathroom would stop a man going in there to assault people, we should all remind them that assault is illegal too. Tips: stop peeing!

  • @rodeogirl135473
    @rodeogirl135473 2 роки тому +9

    I’m HERE for the sheer amount of sass in this video 😂 💪

  • @codeartha
    @codeartha 2 роки тому +8

    In my university, there was only one toilet room. Every student would go to the same room regardless of their sex. And that was completely OK. Why should we need separate rooms when we're going to lock ourselves in a cubicle anyway. The only moment you'd see someone is when washing your hands.