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It's Westbrook or Harden. There's no debate for LeBron or Durant. They have significantly better teammates. Harden alone is responsible for over 50% of Houston's points a game, he is their offense. Westbrook is putting up 30-11-11 a game. Whoever wins more games between those two will likely get it.
no lebron and kd are in the mix look at their numbers and they will have wins look at bird he won 3x times in a row with 3 other hof . But i say harden has the best chance to win
Yea true but the problem is we all know if Lerbon gets injured rockets and okc become better than the cavs because Kyrie is not a traditional point guard so somebody would still need to run the offense or the Cavs probably miss the playoffs or barely make it
Commandosoap777 westbrook had the best chance to win. 1 hes putting up historical numbers that alone gets him attention 2 his season series with harden is tied 1-1 but hes clearly outplayed harden in those matchups avg 28-8-10-2 to hardens 18-7-12
joe draw their team HAS to be 1st or 2nd seed. At best 3rd. No chance for harden or Westbrook
I think SAS has a good point when he said Lebron is averaging his numbers while other players are averaging high numbers as well not to mention Lebron is dishing out most of the assist and averaging a high number of rebounds even with TT and Love.
Shannon Sharpe might as well get on his knees !
facts he be slurping lebron
get that man some kneepads
How many games have the cavs win when he sits down? Kyrie and love are great, but all they do is score with love rebounding, they would get their numbers and they do without Lebron but they don't win because the cavs don't have any other player who make other better and play making. Look how bad the cavs are when Lebron sits, all you have is one on one scoring and team plays much worse. Lebron isn't far off, still Harden is the MVP but you're an idiot if you think Lebron doesn't belong in the conversation
evolution71 he should be in the conversation, but Shannon is bugging if he'd put LeBron #1
+evolution71 just cuz when you sit down the team doesn't win doesn't make you MVP
Westbrook is a 2K MyCareer player
yup, he putting up videogame numbers
Chris Smoove
WhoIsJaimeDoyle except your fg% and topg would be waaaay better
Video game turnover too. Man's a beast but efficiency is trash. He gets 55 wins and triple double then ya sure give it. I mean if Lebron wanted to he could play more minutes and average 1 more assist and 2 more rebounds (or just go for them instead of running the fast break) and he would average a easy triple double shooting like 50-55% with insane efficiency (very few turnovers). As of right now I say its all about the wins, if Cleveland hits 60 = give it to lebron (he is the best player on the planet and the most valuable player the league has ever seen). If they dont hit 60 and houston gets 55-57 maybe harden, okc hits around 55 with a triple double (+5 t.o a game) then you give it to westbrook just for the media/fans.
He's the definition of delusional LeBron fans
SSJGOKU612 !! word
Who loves LeBron more...Shannon or Cowherd?
Draxlura I think Shannon...I can see LeBron wave at him and Shannon jumping and screaming like a girl seeing her favorite boy band
Max
Lol dude you're reaching...lol we are having fun with the comment...Shannon said him self that he loves LeBron and he was a bandwagon fan of his...so calm down...acting so sensitive for nothing...were did jordan come from (assuming isn't good)
Draxlura Colin hates lebron lol
Wait what? Colin would thank LeBron if he burnt down his house haha
Skip wouldn't give LeBron an MVP even if he averaged
40-15-15
The Flash 2024 I know. He'd probably point out that he had a bad finals performance against the Mavs and that's why he doesn't deserve it. But I do think Westbrook and Harden are ahead of him this year
The Flash 2024 he's probably point out of Lebron didn't get his 3P percentage above 55 %. Biggest hater in the world.
Shannon would give LeBron MVP even if he averaged 15-4-4
becuse if he did it like westbrook, he wouln't deserve it for stat padding
I'm a big LeBron fan but Shannon is trippin
chris named the supporting cast on okc and rockets, and they are levels ahead of what lebron had in 03-10. and he won 60 games when the east was better. these boys arent even in the same breath
Exactly!
man foh they are up there with LeBron this is why I cant stand LeBron fans they overrate him to much Harden putting up 28, 11, and 7 LeBron aint never do that in his career and he never averaged 31, 11, 11 in a season either. Put some respect on both Westbrook and Harden name, and Harden led his team to 56 wins with a injured roster in 2014-2015 LeBron aint never do that either.
Semion Johnson So your saying RW and JH are better than Lebron? Lebron James won 4 NBA MVps' made to 6 straight finals 3 rings 3 finals MVps, Everything I just named is way better than a great STATISTICAL Season. Lebron wins when it counts most. Rings over Stats #Facts
RJPointer Man LeBron got his rings because he formed a super team in Miami their is no denying that if he would have stayed with the Cavs and been loyal he probably would only have won ring right now also going to 6 straight finals with a super team isn't as impressive as most people think not to mention he is in the eastern conference which has been trash for years now, Westbrook and Harden are still young at the end of their careers their resumes might just be better than LeBron's unlike Lebron their not leaving their team to chase rings then come back to that team to win another ring with kyrie and Kevin love two already proven all stars.
W. I couldn't of said it better LBJ was 1st team all defense from 2006-10 too, Imagine Harden on an All Defensive teams? No comparison. Westbrick or Harden never making an All Defensive there is no comparing
Skip annihilated Shannon rip Shannon
LeBron is great but he will not win MVP, and nor does he care to. LeBron could be voted MVP every year if he really wanted to because he is just the valuable to his team, but the MVP has become more about who puts up the most impressive numbers rather than who is truly the most valuable. Westbrook will more than likely win it just due to his numbers alone.
Delish no you're wrong, the numbers have to come with wins, all the guys who have won MVP have seen their teams end up with one of the top 2 records in their conference. OKC won't end up top 3
Disgree. It's Most Valuable Player. Not Best Player. Lebron might be the best in the league, he's not automatically the Most Valuable. The Cavs would make the playoffs in the East without him given their current roster. I'm not convinced he's more valuable to his team than Russell is to the Thunder.
"The Cavs would make the playoffs in the East without him given their current roster. I'm not convinced he's more valuable to his team than Russell is to the Thunder."
No. They are 4-17 without LeBron in the last three years. That's Philadephia 76ers level bad. Kyrie Irving never led the Cavs to 35 wins while LeBron was in Miami. That said, I tend to agree with you the Thunder would be much worse without Westbrook.
Rex Smith they are 4-17without lebron
Emmanuel Enyinwa the thunder would be much better than the cavs if u remove lebron
Love lebron but Shannon lost all credibility with this argument
dude.... the last time someone won an MVP outside the top 2 in their respective conference was 1989.... Guess who won it, Michael Jordan....
DINKY nobody has averaged a triple double during that time either
Oscar Robertson did.... And he didnt win MVP that year, they gave it to Bill russel who wasnt doing that well but there team won the ring.....
DINKY you sound ridiculous.. either Westbrook or harden is MVP right now hands down
Prince Akeem how???? U just know I am right and ran out of credible arguments
Leonard, Butler, and Giannis need more recognition, stats are great, but if you don't play defense, how can you be most valuable
Matthew Romano they are not as flashy as the others and people are attracted to flashy things
Matthew Romano I have kawhi or harden don't see russ winning because harden has just been better at leading his team, and people are sleeping on the spurs they almost beat the record for most road wins without a lose and kawhi has been putting up his his best numbers
Matthew Romano Giannis is too young right now, but in a few years he will surely be in the race.
+Andrew Ortiz his best numbers are 24 2 6? That's more like a role player than an mvp
Gamelover you do know kawhi averages those number while shutting down entire offenses. not players. offenses. literally too. teams would rather take whoever he is guarding and put him asfar as possible from the offense and go 4v4 then have kawhi intervene. give me him over westbrook anyday but harden getting this mvp
Shannon rides LBJ soo hard.
DrWeeWe l
I really wish people would stop saying Westbrook is by himself... Adams, Kanter, Oladipo are good players.
victor gentry
lol compared to kyrie,thompson,love,smith,shumpert,frye,jefferson in the east=🎂🎂🚶🏼🚶🏼🚶🏼
Derek Delgado I never even said anything about Lebron? Try Anderson Varejo, Delonte West, and Jamario moon. Westbrook has help around him my dude. I honestly thought KD would come back to OKC after they got oladipo. What were Shumpert, Jefferson, Frye, and Smith all doing before Lebron took them under his wing??
Its not that there bad its just they don't have another ball handler besides Dipo and Russ
westbrook has the help he just refuses to use it by shooting 26 times and controlling the ball 100% of the time.
I laughed so hard when Shannon said at 2:58: "They've beaten tomato cans" 😂😂😂
With Shannon Sharpe's logic, Durant is leading the Warriors to the best record in the NBA while getting arguably the greatest PER in NBA history on historical level effiencies. And he gets his stats with Curry and Klay on his team.
shanon's homerism is actually hilarious :D
Lebron is the most VALUABLE player every year.
LeBron James is the MVP of the league . But it's Westbrook , who will win it
westbrook wont win with out wins
I dont think he will have enough wins... Needs to be top 2 in the conference..
Watch LeBron James win the MVP with 65 wins, and everyone hate on him for denying Westbrook and Harden. In my opinion, LeBron James simply deserves it because no matter how great Westbrook and Harden are, they are also stat padders, Westbrook is my second favourite player but i routinely watch his games and i routinely see him leave his man to grab rebounds for his stats. Harden has a case, but he is also a turnover machine. If any of these three players win im good, just dont give it to steph curry lmao, that convo last year killed me.
Harden is not only the nba reign all time TO machine, but also has No Defence. Double whammy smh
99 I'm not even going to pay you no mind you are delusional keep hating while Harden wins MVP and lead his team deep in the playoffs, Harden is already a top 5 shooting guard of all time behind MJ, Kobe, D wade, and AI nothing you say and or think will change that ask anybody who actually knows basketball how good Harden is I guarantee you that will all say he is on another level but unintelligent people like yourself can't comprehend it.
+Semion Johnson stating the facts doesn't make you a hater. You have to follow the rockets to understand how frustrating we have such a selfish player like harden, who just thinks and talks about himself being delusional about the best player and mvp when the fact is that he is not and not even close. We would rather have a player like KD, Curry, lebron, kawhi and even Westbrook who focus on team success and championship first than his individual inflated stats and imaginative mvp.
Harden has been delusional and over his head since losing out the mvp to Curry two years ago. During playoff, he again performed so poorly became the TO machine because all he thought about himself rather than the success. Luckily, the coach benched him, and of course, clippers was self destruction to help the rockets to WCF. But again, thanks to harden's selfishness and losing out.
Next season (meaning last season) he not only didn't come to prepare the season after what all he did was whining about being mvp and best player, but he also singlehandedly destroyed the whole team chemistry due to selfishness to hog ball to inflate his stats after all the years rockets spent to build deep championship run.
This year, not surprising again, harden switches to pg before the season to take advantage of D'antonio system to inflate his stats. Yes, rockets has a winning season. Thanks to D'antonio system which it has already proven to win a good number of wins in season. But without D (particular to harden), do you actually think they will win championship?
That is what all the ppl who know basketball (including professional analysts, hof players and the league) seem to under appreciate harden, but the truth is the inflated numbers don't fool us who knows basketball, unlike casual fans, who just read stat sheet rather than watching the game.
BBQ Chicken should westbrook stay on his man instead of getting the rebound? if he's predicting the shot will be a miss and he is able to get a rebound (which he clearly does a lot), and gets his big guys down the court faster, what's the problem?
riedstep yes but it becomes a problem when he predicts it down the stretch of an important game and his man makes big plays for their team (shot, pass) know what i mean?
Lebron
3-4
Zeke Khaseli thats three championships that puts him above hundreds of other nba players who are retired not to mention all the ones playing today
Zeke Khaseli 3-1. 4 Mvps. 3 Fmvps
Yo Zeke, guess who also has 4 Finals losses?
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Funny, because I often hear those 3 in the Top 5 greatest of all time. Sounds like LeBron is on the right track with his 3-4.
Poor Anthony Davis probably having the best season of anybody in the NBA this year but he's not in the MVP discussion
TrueSmithCraft yup
TrueSmithCraft Cause NBA has rules that MVP could be only a Player whose team Wins at least 50 games out of 82 in regular season. Consequently he is not even in discussion cause Pelicans not going to make 50 wins in Regular Season.
bostonskiy1 That's not a rule. It's just a trend.
Lebron Harden and Westbrook are playing amazing right now. All three of these guys are either averaging a triple double or they are flirting with a triple double.
Brando Williams
True. Its also impressive that Lebron at 32 is competing at the highest level with guys 5 years younger than him lol
The big difference is harden is benefiting from D'antonio system which the system is making him looking better than he really is. If ppl are going to be fooled by his inflated number, D'antonio deserves the coach of the year more than harden for the mvp. It is not even debatable.
By Shannon Sharpe's logic, Durant should be the runaway MVP
Brian Cheng exactly!!
I'm from Houston I love LeBron,,, he's the best ever, objectively James Harden is the front runner right now...
Edward Franklin if LeBron wanted to win it he could.
Kameron Koch I don't doubt that he could I don't think he cares about it anymore...
I live in Cleveland. I was born and raised in Cleveland. I love the Cavs, Indians and browns. I love LeBron James. I honestly feel that lebron is the best player in the league and the greatest player since Jordan. But I am not blind. I see what Westbrook is doing this year and it's amazing. Russel is the mvp of the league this year.
doug bouffard Preach
James Harden better not get robbed again.
njb 007 I think wedtbrook has to get less than 50 wins for it to happen
njb 007 he didn't get robbed the first time...it was debutable between curry and harden...right now harden is but season is early
Like I said it is debutable...it wasnt as clear cut as last year...where we knew steph was mvp
look up James Harden defense on youtube he's so bad on defense it is hilarious
Harden being robbed? Mvp of shaqtin a fool? Hmmm. His D and TO may help him for 2nd repeat
Aint the Cavs 4-16 without LeBron? There you go!
Clive Clivington harden is more valuable to his team
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy Rockets are 0-25 without Harden
Harden > Lebum Jamz
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy not buying it, them cavs is lost without the king guiding them.
Trolls !!!!!!!!!!
This season?
i dont think lebron will MVP
but people need to give him more credit
they take the man for credit, because of his past accomplishments
3-4
Sahil Kurup how much credit does he need we realize he is top 5 in nba history we just like to acknowledge other players
but people take for granted his numbers
i guess credit was the wrong word to use
all im saying is that a lot of the time, people compare lebron to his past self when looking at his numbers, and i dont think thats fair
Sahil Kurup I agree with that
Sahil Kurup I've never seen a 4time mvp and 3 time champion, more disrespected . It's like all the Jordan fan girls can't get over the fact that Jordan isn't number one anymore
Big bron fan...But cmon Shannon
Shannon is smoked in this debate
I'm still picking James harden. Shannon would say lebron will win mvp smh
Cavs fan since 2005, but you can't win MVP if your going to play with minutes restrictions.
Ah...you're one of those non-sense advanced statistics goofs. Tell me, how many games do the Cavs win without LBJ? How does his FG% and to% compare to Westbrick and Haren(no D)?
It's non-sense because you can't comprehend it, which is rather ironic that the rest of your statement is ALL statistics.
EWA (Estimated Wins Added): Westbrook 9.1, Harden 8.9, James 6.7
RPM Wins: Westbrook is responsible for 5.66 of Thunder's 16 wins (35%); Harden at 6.94 of Rockets' 21 wins (33%) and James at 5.12 of Cavs' 19 wins (27%). To simplify, Westbrook and Harden each account for more wins (this season).
TS% (True Shooting): Westbrook 53.8%, Harden 60.7%, James, 59.5%
TO% (Turnover Ratio): Westbrook 12.3, Harden 13.9, James 11.7
There should be no doubt that James is the best player of this generation, but merely top 5 in this season's MVP conversation is already generous.
the east is like jolly farm from family guy. and the West is like ww2 lebron always gets the easiest ride to the finals
I agree with Shannon.
In the reg. season, LeBron is not the best player on his team.
In the postseason, LeBron is the best player on the planet
zachwhitlow4 LeBron is the best on his team at all times
Keefe Keefe
If you have been paying attention to the last few yrs, he has purposely let Kyrie and the crew take over in the regular season so he can be rested for when it mastters most. He could care less about Reg Season MVP awards because much like the Warriors 73 wins last year, it does not equate to championships. LeBron wants titles which is why he will win the MVP but is also why the Cavs may take the chip again
Is that why he averaged 17 PPG in the finals in 2011, one of the biggest drop offs ever by a HOFer?
MOE Jizle What happened when they met in the Finals? My point exactly
zachwhitlow4 the crazy thing is LeBron is literally coasting during regular season and is in the MVP talks. If he dialed it up, he would prolly win it every year
People need to stop with this east being trash thing and acting like the Cavs actually play PHI every night. The stats? How the schedule goes?
Houston 9 Games against the East- (6-3); 16 against the West (12-4)
OKC : 12 Games against the East (8-4); 12 games against the West (7-5)
Cavs: 18 games against the East (14-4); 4 games against the West (3-1)
So…the Rockets, Thunder, and Cavs have played comparable games against their own conference. If the East is so weak…then the Rockets and Thunders should be 15-1 and 12-0, respectively, against the East. But they aren’t.
Think about it like this: The West looks like trash compared to SAS and GSW, right? Why is that? Because they are that GOOD of teams.
The East looks like trash, not against a team, but against LEBRON. Why is that? Because HE, SINGULAR, IS THAT GOOD.
Put Lebron on any team in the West and they’d have 6, going on 7, conference finals appearances too.
Man, that bothers me.
Will Deonne if u put lebron on a team in the west except for the past champions in the west theres no way lebron going to finals 6 straight times
treyvone scott man that's what I try to explain to people too... it changes everything then because he has to play THE BEST TEAMS round after round of the playoffs... the west has had all 8 teams in playoffs win 50+ games a couple times in the last 10 years or so, the east hasn't even came close to that
Only one good team in the east.
The east is a cake walk for Lebron's superteams.
Asterisk. Period. Forever.
Will Deonne True. Last year, other than the top 4, East was deeper. The wizards in tenth place would have made the playoffs in the west last year.
EXACTLY. People act like if they switch to a 16 top record teams for the playoffs itll be all west. No. Last year, for example?
2016 16 BEST TEAMS PLAYOFF:
1. GSW-W
2. SAS-W
3. CAVS-E
4. RAPS-E
5. OKC-W
6. LAC-W
7. MIA-E
8. ATL-E
9. CHAR-E
10. BOSTON-E
11. INDY-E
12. DET-E
13. POR-W
14. CHI-E
15. MEM-W-
16. WASH-E
That's 10 of the top 16 coming from the East. this is all i'm saying. Yeah, but the east is "weak". Where the rest of the West at?
And lets go back 6 years in the finals.
West were repsented by Dallas, OKC, SA, SA, GSW, GSW. You mean to tell me that you don't believe that if Lebron was on a team in that conference that he couldnt beat them to make the Conference finals? LOL.
1. Harden
1a) Westbrook
3. Durant
LeBitch not even in the convo this year
Andrew Blackop hasn't been in it for like 3 years.
Roberto Carlos That's very true. But the media will try to include him somehow.
Andrew Blackop
thats a fact espn especially they brainwash people with lebron more then nbc do liberals and fox do conservatives lol
Andrew Blackop You guys are idiots and that's facts.
ThatKidReem #16xChamps #Kobe You butthurt or nah
I think whoever has the better record at the end of the season should win
symbiote91 they consider that heavily if that's the case it's Durant warriors will win at least 64 games
Chris is the type of dude that is real about lebron and not dickriding like shannon is, and then he goes on the set and says he is #2 all time greatest player...
They both have good points. It could go eather way.
Harden should win if top 4 and the West...
Harden should have won the first year that Steph did.
Cam Benjamin yea he led them to the 2nd seed
they have to be 3rd atlasest and i agree harden should of won 14-15
Riley Freeman, yup and without Dwight for a large part of that season.
Yup. Even though Harden lead his inferior team without Dwight for half the season and put up greater stats than Curry all around, Curry easily ran away with the MVP because the media said that Curry's team had the best record in the NBA. The media was saying that it doesn't matter what amazing stat lines Harden was putting up, or that he managed to take a much less talented team to the 2nd seed, he would not win the MVP because his team is not the top seed in the West.
But this season, its about who's putting up better stats. Its ridiculous that they would choose Westbrook because of his triple doubles. Harden's stats compared to Westbrook is not that far apart. Westbrook averages 3 more rebounds per game, and scores 2 more points than Harden despite shooting a lot more per game.
LeBron has so many physical advantages to all the other guys in the league, he shouldn't even be in the discussion of MVP with his statline. It should be easy for him to average a triple double in the regular season in the East.
dumbest comment i've ever seen. That's like saying Kareem or Wilt shouldn't be given any credit because they're 7 foot
Ahmad Akbari I'm just saying LeBron doesn't have to rip his heart out like Westbrook or Harden to put up these numbers. they're playing at a different effort level than him because they have to and he doesn't. I'll take him over either of those two every day no question. But I think overall, even if you look at all-time ranking, I think there are a lot of players who are way more skillful than LeBron. They might not necessarily be better or let's say more impactful but just from a pure basketball skill level they were or are better but nobody EVER had a body and power and athleticism like him. Russell is the only one maybe but not as big.
they've beaten tomato cans 😂
Wtf is Shannon sharpe arguing with here
Russell Westbrook is averaging 31.1 points, 11 assists, and 10.9 rebounds to Lebrons 25 points, 9.1 assists, and 7.7. Not to mention Lebron has a top 3 pg beside him while Westbrook has no superstar playing with him. The top two candidates to me are Russell Westbrook and James Harden. Those two are winning a lot of games with no stars around them. They know what they have to do and right now these two are the best candidates for the MVP.
Halellujah
R Hunt my top 2 kawhi and harden
highest usage rate, most shots, most bricks, most turnovers
It's Lebron syndrome. Sort of like liberal politics. "I don't care about your facts, this is how I feel".
R Hunt the argument is he's doing what Westbrook is doing (more efficiently I might add) with guys that are already filling up assists and rebounds. If Westbrook wasn't by himself these stats wouldn't be happening. Nor would be on Lebron's level.
My top 5
Westbrook
Durant
Leonard
Harden
Butler or derozen
Tony V Based on scoring???
Tony V Atleast you realize that Kawhi excist cause hes maybe the best defender in the league hes one of the most efficient players and he is an all around player and he's reaally good at offense to shooting 90 percent from the free throw line and he shoots over 40 percent.Like bruuuhhhhhh
I died when Skip trolled philly 😂😂
Rockets will win more than 55 games
i say 53 or less
About 50
In the first 25 games of the season they have won 18, times that by three is 54 out of 75. They are going to win closer to 55 than 50, likely more than 55. So I agree with Maurice here.
Nicholas Lu you cant really use that because 1 not all teams are the same and that doesnt show back to back which alot of teams usally lose
In the case of the Rockets I'd say you can because they had one tough schedule to begin the season. They are in a relatively easier stretch right now, but overall their schedule is not as difficult as the beginning of the season. Did you know they have not lost 2 in a row yet on the season? For any other team I would agree with you the arithmetic probably wouldn't work.
Shannon should be ashamed of himself
Lol he said they play philly at home every other night lol. that east is too weak. finally skip makes a point
Westbrook has the highest usage rate in NBA history smh, he's basically a 5 year old playing NBA my career who won't stop calling for the ball.
They'd be 10th in the west if he didn't
Shannon must be LeBron daddy.
suntansuperman26 💀💀💀
It's going to be a duel: Russ & Harden even though KD should be in the convo
Tireur isolé He really shouldn't, without him that team is winning 60 games regardless so hes not a valuable player like james or russ is to their teams
Capital Steez you made a good valid point, hard to argue that honestly and time will tell when playoffs come around. But, if they had him instead of Harrison Barnes last post season they would've win that's how Valuable he gets
Tireur isolé based on valuability kd isnt that valuable to the team, he is being extremely efficient but hes not valuable, take him off and i would still bet gsw in conference finals
treyvone scott but, have him on then you'll probably have them in the NBA finals or even win the whole thing. Right?
treyvone scott are we forgetting that curry Klay and draymond are all having off years in terms of offense ? Are we forgetting that KD is a defensive prescience, and if they were to take him out it would be even worse ? KD is valuable to this warrior team bro. This isn't the same Warriors as last year. They lost a lot of important bench players and defensive players. Not only that but their core is not playing well. You can't blame KD for curry shooting lackluster in comparison to last year. KD is extremely valuable. This warrior team without KD would not be able to make the finals *
James Harden has got to be the MVP. The Rockets are tied for the 3rd seed in the West and they only have one All Star!
Daniel Pagan Like harden but his defense is what makes me lean more tawards westbrook.
westbrook defense is bad too so
Harden's defense last year was bad because he did not put any effort into it but its ridiculous that so many people, mostly the media still uses that against him this season despite improvements this year. The major issue with Harden last season was effort defensively. There's a major assumption with many people that Westbrook is a great defensive player. But when you dig deep into it, their defense is not that far apart.
Jo Ace I agree with you but both westbrook and harden are playing pretty good this season. The only part of their game that would put westbrook above harden for the MVP is defense. Harden has improved but nt on the level of westbrook.
you saying harden is worse than westbrook on defense leads me to believe youre either biased or isnt watching both players. harden this season is playing defense. not calling him a great or even good defender but he is decent. westbrook has poor decisionmaking in both ends of the floor and goes for steals when there isnt any good opportunity to do so, leaving his man with a clear lane to the basket. him also going for every rebound leaves his defensive assignment wide open. theyre about the same on the defensive end, but on the offensive end harden is a better player, mostly due to him being a lot smarter and makes the right decisions.
Honestly, I think LeBron needs the NFL MVP too, he deserves it. Shannon would agree
Chris Broussard OWNED this segment.
by shannon logic kd is the mvp . his team is 20-4 and is averaging 26,8,4.5 and is leading in fg for wins and the league in per for wings . even though he is up there if the playoffs started today him and lebron wont win it .
bron and kd have a chance though dont act like it hasnt been done before
difference is, take KD out of the Warriors and they still a contender... Take Lebron out of the Cavs, it's a 4-17 team.
baldpnoy410 last season for sure this season no.Watch games kd is the life line of the warriors most times
kinda right, they dont have the storyline as the media puts it. they wont get due credit for what they really worth
Josef Rey Villanueva the kia mvp ladder ( the media ) put kd at 3rd so i disagree if the warriors keep winning and reach 67 ish he cant win it . same with Lebron 62 ish easily he can do it
omg can the camera focus o. joy Taylor please
Can we take a timeout to realise 3 of the top 4 MVP candidates used to play on the same team ? Jesus Christ, how did they not win a title ...
They play Philly at home every other night looool that had me dying not gonna lie
I'd love to take Joy on a date. Unfortunately im not a lucky man.
lol skip"lebron playing in the east its a cake walk they play philly ever other night"
that whoa whoa whoa by shannon was so good lol
Stats wise Westbrook and Harden have the edge. Value wise Westbrook and Harden still have the edge. The Cavs would make it arguably to the finals without LBj
it's kawhi or James harden
Andrew Ortiz yes
Harden is due after being robbed of the 2014-2015 MVP.
OKC was so lucky with their players, even their former no. 2 and bench player are now the two front-runners for MVP
Lebron MVP. He's the MVP of the whole NBA if you put it in perspective.
3-4
Zeke Khaseli Westbrook and Harden 0-1... and they were on the same team with Durant.... yeesh
+Zeke Khaseli Lol roasted and instant L
Oh the baby Thunders. Cute argument .
Brossuard hating
Maurice Haye nah I actually agree with him on this
Lol that's your excuse? Harden is doing amazing and doesn't make as many mistakes, and is more under control going to the rim, better shot selection, etc.
you got smoked Shannon take thaaat
Im the biggest LeBron fan, but you cannot look past Westbrook for MVP currently.
Sharpe is pretty convincing.
broussard left ESPN also?
lebron is the mvp every year until he's no longer the best player in the world, so until that, it's gonna have to be stat chasing ball hogs I guess
It's too early for MVP talk
JOY TAYLOR!!!
Shannon sound crazy af
think about it Harden and Westbrook are the Main superstars in their teams so they have the ball in their hands alot more while LeBron has like 2 other stars but still puts up great numbers
MaLJaY Worldstar bruh I get what you saying but in the case KD should have a case as well
KE TV MVP stands for Most Valuable Player and the Warriors without KD still won a Ring and got the all time team record.
KE TV Do you think the Cavs will make the finals if LeBron decided to Retire right now?
MaLJaY Worldstar they would still have a strong chance but once again take Westbrook off okc they would be 15th in west same with harden but whatever I don't care you got your opinion I got mine :D
Release Lebrons nuts
Imagine if OKC management actually knew what they were doing, their line up would be crazy. Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka and Adams......
lord have mercy Joy is looking beautiful today
TheAztecWarrior100 yeah bruh hahahahaha wats her full name again
Who will win the NBA MVP this season?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Joy already won
Marc Gasol, hands down
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Russell Westbrook
it's amazing Chris Paul just gets swept under the rug consistently on these daily debates.
I don't even like the Clippers and I'd give it to him right now
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 1. Westbrook
2. King James
3. Harden
4. Durant
5. AD
I think we can all agree on one thing: No one can predict the future, these are only speculations.
That said, this is and will be a very enjoyable seasons where MANY players shine!
what was the classic line?
"Lebron James is the MVP of the league, but who are we gonna give this award too"
Ill give it to Westbrook or Harden this year, but i dont actually doubt LBJ as the MvP. Just like MJ with 5 MvPs when we all know he should actually have 9.
I agree with Skip
Especially with the Lou williams deal that just happened, the Rockets bench is gonna absolutely destroy everyone else's bench from here on
No one is saying Chris Paul. He's been the best defender in the league and his offensive production is better than all of maybe five players.
IMO harden should win it , the dude is freaking amazing
If you know basketball, harden is being benefit from D'antonio system, which it is why it is another of his selfish act to switch to pg so he can inflate his numbers rather than focusing on his no D effort.... If ppl are going to be fooled by inflated number, D'ANTONIO deserves the coach of the year than mvp for harden, who is D'antonio's system made product ... Who deserves for the mvp is Westbrook, KD (without emotional attachment for his decision), kawhi and Chris paul (but lately, the clippers haven't looked so good)
Joy Taylor, I'm going to make something of myself and then marry you Borat style.
Westbrook!!!....Hands Down
Harden never gets enough credit
Beastbrook and The Beard should win MVP with all those triple-doubles
UNDISPUTED > FIRST TAKE
Broussard has to mention that Harden is averaging nearly 6 turnovers per game while Nash averaged a bit above 3 in his MVP season. Nash is a classic player who's value stemmed from way more than his numbers. Phoenix before he arrived literally turned from basement dwellers to contenders because of his arrival. In 2006 Stoudemire was injured essentially the entire season and they were second seed in the west and won 54 games. Harden has way better raw numbers, but because Nash's numbers for an MVP were relatively low, I think people look back and diminish what he did with those teams. There was a reason why he won MVP at the time. What he did with those Suns was amazing, but people just look back at his per game stats and say well he shouldn't have won with those numbers.
I had Kawhi winning the MVP before the season started but Russ and James Harden have been INCREDIBLE to start the season and it'll be between them Kawhi and Lebron for the MVP but Harden and Russ are the Top 2 right now
skip never has an argument so he constantly brings up free throw %, like it matters AT ALL
He's right about Lebron.
People just want to discount Lebron at every chase. He should have won it last year too.
Will Deonne lmao Curry had the best individual season last year, not to mention he lead his team to 73 wins and broke his own 3 point shots record and got to the NBA finals, nonsense.
lmao look at this guy ... even when westbrook is averaging a triple double these retards defend lebron, yeah bro we know lebron is the best in the league, but not in the regular season because he probably doesnt care, he wants to win titles , also he plays with a top3 pg aka kyrie and klove , he can afford to take it easy unlike westbrook
i also think he shouldve won it last year , like westbrook deserved it 2 seasons ago when they didnt make the playoffs so they didnt give it to him
if westbrook ends up averaging a triple double and okc makes the playoffs it should be impossible not to give it to him
xiami you're right..BUT...it depends on what Harden does.Westbrook can still average a triple double, but if Houston is sniffing a 3-4 seed with Harden averaging like 12 assists? and OKC is a 7-8? that's harden, all day. Unfortunately
The Cavs have Irving and Love and Smith and whoever you wanna bring up, but without Lebron, they would barely be a playoff team
you said BARELY. Even though thats not true because the bottom 2 in the east will be either .500 or below that still making a playoff spot. Take Harden off Hou they are a lottery team and take Westbrook off OKC and they are a lottery team. They are everything to their teams, Lebron is the most important piece for Championship aspirations
Rockets only have two more Ls lmaoo 😂
my MVP list
harden
Durant
Westbrook
lebron