Doctor Reacts to South Park "Timmy 2000" (ADHD or Just Bad Behaviour?)

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    This Doctor Reacts video is looking at another South Park episode called "Timmy 2000". This is the introduction of Timmy who has a learning disability and now given a diagnosis of ADHD. That leads to everyone getting diagnosed with ADHD and being put on Ritalin. On this video we analyze whether it really is ADHD and whether this diagnosis is overused, and how to separate it from just bad behaviour. Lots to talk about on this one.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 246

  • @griffalo1013
    @griffalo1013 4 місяці тому +163

    Love that South Park never has Timmy or Jimmy's disabilities be the punchline of a joke, but they're often used as a mirror of how society treats people like them.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 місяці тому +19

      I absolutely love the episode where they join the Crips.

    • @SliceOfDog
      @SliceOfDog 3 місяці тому +21

      Definitely agree with this, except with a slight reframing. Sometimes their disability is part of a punchline, but it's never punching down at Jimmy or Timmy themselves. There are a few times that Jimmy's stutter is a punchline, for example, but we're not laughing AT Jimmy, we're laughing at the scenario or the outcome of his stutter, like when he tells Wendy "Stan says you're a cunt- a cunt- you're a cunt- a... a continual source of inspiration to him."
      Like in Stan's little speech at the end of this episode, I think the great thing about how South Park has used Timmy and Jimmy is that they don't shy away from ever making jokes around their disabilities, but it's never to belittle the character themselves. It strikes me as very similar to how Avatar The Last Airbender is able to successfully make blindness jokes about Toph, but it never comes across as cruel or as making Toph less of an independent human being. It's just a part of her, like Jimmy's stutter and use of crutches.

    • @DoubleDoubleWithOnions
      @DoubleDoubleWithOnions Місяць тому +1

      TIMMY.....

  • @21Kyzix12
    @21Kyzix12 4 місяці тому +59

    I feel like in future South Park episodes they show more of how Timmy might not have an intellectual disability at all. He tends to show quite a bit of intelligence and insight, but his physical disabilities often prevent him from communicating.

    • @_Fuscous
      @_Fuscous Годину тому

      Yeah, also Timmy's superhero character Doctor Timothy (not talking about Iron Maiden) is very smart, and in order for him to play as that character he'd have to actually be smart.

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 4 місяці тому +87

    The shows creators talked about in a commentary that comedy central gave a lot of push back on Timmy being in the show and sent a list of what they can and cant do with him. They said the way CC treated Timmy was worse than any joke they could make

    • @iRazenrak
      @iRazenrak 3 місяці тому +3

      Imagine if they made an episode where the class had to make their own play and the principal put those restrictions on Timmy to parody Comedy Central.

  • @ebbidibebbidiboo2640
    @ebbidibebbidiboo2640 4 місяці тому +43

    As someone with adhd who has been burnt out since I was in primary school, hearing that doing homework until 2am is a scenario where the harm obviously outweighs the benefit is so validating

    • @_Fuscous
      @_Fuscous Годину тому

      Well, only if you actually start the homework at a normal time. If you start at midnight and finish at 2am then it's not the teacher's fault for assigning too much homework.

  • @flightsnotfeelings5867
    @flightsnotfeelings5867 4 місяці тому +18

    I remember when I first started a stimulant for my ADHD, I remember I was able to get so many things done, I cried so hard because I finally felt normal for the first time in my life.

  • @ktgrnhig
    @ktgrnhig 4 місяці тому +29

    To be fair, we don’t really “know” that Timmy is intellectually disabled. In the MCU parody episodes/games, he’s portrayed as able to telepathically communicate eloquently, and he actually does have quite a bit of awareness of the situations he finds himself in. His speech issues probably have more to do with his physical disability.

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +2

      Just the whole framing Jimmy thing was clearly something that showed intelligence.

  • @Jinxx9081
    @Jinxx9081 4 місяці тому +22

    Here’s a summary of the Great Gatsby for you:
    Gatsby: “Daisy, I made all this money for you because I love you.”
    Daisy: “I cannot reciprocate, because I represent the American dream.”
    Gatsby: “Now I must die, because I also represent the American dream.”
    (Gatsby dies)
    Nick: “I hate New Yorkers.”

  • @penguintaco9038
    @penguintaco9038 4 місяці тому +75

    Timmy is actually fully cognitive, he just can't vocalize his words beyond his name.

    • @Merrsharr
      @Merrsharr 3 місяці тому +11

      Plus his pet turkey's name and the name of his band in this very episode

    • @spliffspiegel834
      @spliffspiegel834 2 місяці тому +2

      Gobbles!

    • @theotakux5959
      @theotakux5959 2 місяці тому +4

      Uh, he can say "Living a lie".

    • @DoroNijimaru
      @DoroNijimaru 2 місяці тому +4

      he said something along the lines of 'please help me' in the season 4 episode Fourth Grade

    • @WillieDangerously
      @WillieDangerously 4 дні тому +1

      And Jimmy's name too. As phonetically similar as it is we barely hear him derriviate his speech, so I think that's quite notable beyond the similarities.

  • @benjovi356
    @benjovi356 4 місяці тому +19

    I was born with Cerebral Palsy. I am currently in my 30s. When I was Timmy's age, my teachers tried making a case that I was retarded primarily because I was slow with my writing due to my limited motor skills. I was able to prove enough competency with my school's psychologist and they let me stay with my class. When I was a senior in high school, the education board came to my school and made a similar case that because of my lacking performance in a couple subjects, I could not attend University. I took the SAT and applied and got into my college of choice. I went on to obtain my 4-year degree in broadcasting. Over time, it branched out to an IT career. I started as a database writer/administrator and I currently work in cyber security. I still struggle with Cerebral Palsy, but my circumstances are far better.
    I did not watch South Park too often but this was always one of my favorite episodes.

    • @Floyd13778
      @Floyd13778 5 днів тому +1

      Kudos to you for overcoming all these obstacles! Your story is actually pretty inspiring. Thanks for sharing it!

  • @clearashazy431
    @clearashazy431 4 місяці тому +10

    Timmy is shown to be pretty sharp and cognizant in "Up the Down Steroid" despite still only being able to say his name.

  • @Weds.Addams
    @Weds.Addams 4 місяці тому +24

    I am also in my 30's and have a degree and a career but still have nightmares that I forgot to go to math class for a whole semester and will not get my high school diploma.

    • @nuclearcatbaby1131
      @nuclearcatbaby1131 3 місяці тому +1

      I have nightmares like that but often for a whole semester of community college classes.

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 Місяць тому +3

    19:01 this really does make me think about when I feel discomfort when I see someone with a disability because I don’t know how to communicate effectively. This is exactly what the message of this episode was about. People didn’t want to protect Timmy, they just didn’t want to deal with their own discomfort.

  • @DSTYYT
    @DSTYYT 4 місяці тому +5

    The comedic timing on every different thing Timmy says is really good

  • @MakotoKamui
    @MakotoKamui 4 місяці тому +8

    Oof, I'm in my mid-40s, and I STILL have those "didn't finish my homework" dreams. Brains, especially in dreams, are weird.

  • @tahraethestoryteller6079
    @tahraethestoryteller6079 4 місяці тому +16

    By the way, it was Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Declaration of Independence

    • @bisousethiboux
      @bisousethiboux 3 місяці тому

      Tommy!!! (see, he was only one letter off...!!)

  • @melissaroszkowski8911
    @melissaroszkowski8911 4 місяці тому +8

    The Christina Aguilera monsters are hilarious.

  • @MrBeastPhilantropy
    @MrBeastPhilantropy 3 місяці тому +6

    i HAD my diagnosis but still got written off as a bad student because the NZ education system is horrible.

    • @FaulddrLaerynn
      @FaulddrLaerynn 3 місяці тому +2

      me too, and i got gas lighted so much and the adults when i was a kid always tried to get me upset and then boom, i was the problem, and well i had to actualy fight some adults back, pyscially, as i was assaulted by them, and sadly, i am the way that i am now, but i know i can make changes, and that i am not what they think that i am, ,

  • @jstraight1667
    @jstraight1667 4 місяці тому +8

    I'm surprised they didn't go with Adderall and Subtracterall

    • @JRSiebz
      @JRSiebz 4 місяці тому +3

      They must have been divided about it

  • @Miss_Lexisaurus
    @Miss_Lexisaurus 4 місяці тому +9

    How very dare you with the Phil Collins judgement!!! lol!

  • @katiebaker5662
    @katiebaker5662 3 місяці тому +3

    Hands up! People pleaser who was inattentive at school. Really wanted to do well but was "troubled" at school. No wonder myself and my ADHD brother did most of our sibling bonding in detention. We became very good at covering for each other, so we got in less trouble overall. We were both diagnosed with ADHD in adulthood.

  • @cultivatinggrace
    @cultivatinggrace 3 місяці тому +3

    As a woman who wasn’t diagnosed with adhd or autism until my late 30s because I was also very smart and able to mask in childhood, I appreciate your commentary about how both things are very underdiagnosed in women. My life changed when I started taking Adderall-the trajectory of my life would have been a lot different if I had been medicated as a teen instead of in my late 30s.

  • @JJ-xs9me
    @JJ-xs9me 4 місяці тому +16

    The Great Gatsby is from the perspective of a white man meeting another new money white man pining for an old money white girl he met when he was a poor soldier. It does not go well for Gatsby.

    • @Tconlon251_2
      @Tconlon251_2 4 місяці тому +5

      Mostly because he happened to be standing next to a particular car at a particular time

    • @JJ-xs9me
      @JJ-xs9me 4 місяці тому +2

      I wouldn’t call this story an example of the American dream, but a story of weird coincidences and bad planning.

    • @eamonreidy9534
      @eamonreidy9534 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JJ-xs9medefinitely the american dream

  • @jaywinner328
    @jaywinner328 4 місяці тому +7

    I can't blame the medical community when their terms get used as slurs by the general public.

  • @almightyk11
    @almightyk11 4 місяці тому +1

    Something I love about this episode is that at no point was the joke on people with actual issues

  • @hogarth1
    @hogarth1 3 місяці тому +4

    I think the issue with reasonable adjustments is that some people don't know what "reasonable" means. Why are some disabled people refused even the most basic rights non disabled people have? Why are disabled people often talked over and discussions are with the person next to them? Why are consent laws and mental capacity act laws not applicable to some disabled people? Are discussions about what someone wants to do to your body with complete strangers on the ward (without your consent) ever okay? Do I need to hear about other patients medical issues (i would never ask) and judgement about them from medical staff? How many times does someone have to say no? Is staff signing you consented without your or witnesses knowledge or your consent okay as long you are disabled? Is ignoring you until you become inoperable or an emergency ever okay? There are far more and worse things too. Before implementing reasonable adjustments it would be good to start with legal and human rights. Then maybe dignity and common decency. What is left should then be called reasonable adjustments. Every time I see a zero tolerance poster I am acutely aware staff are more likely to abuse me (from repeated experiences). I am a pacifist but I am treated like a dangerous animal sometimes. I'm autistic but I know these things happen to people with other disabilities.

  • @maya993
    @maya993 25 днів тому

    The treatment of Timmy's band in this episode really hit close to home. There's a sports team here that has a fella with an intellectual disability working with them (idk which disability it is), and he's sort of become their second mascot/hype man. He leads people in the national anthem and little songs cheering on the team, greets people at the entrance before games start, etc.
    Most people genuinely think he's really cool. Even people who aren't that into sports know him as a beloved local icon, but there's a minority that feels like he's being exploited and that everyone is just pretending to like him as some kind of bit.

  • @mariamerigold
    @mariamerigold 4 місяці тому +4

    I LOVE the fact that you make videos on South Park 🤣🤣🤣❤

  • @XhodanXeus
    @XhodanXeus 3 місяці тому +3

    if we go by that test i have major ADHD lol haha , because my whole life if i dont like something, i just wont care or listen or just day dream, however if i do like something i am really invested in it.

  • @DramaLlamaTheatrics
    @DramaLlamaTheatrics 3 місяці тому +3

    So I’ve been recommended your channel before but this is the first time ever actually watching one of your videos before. Hearing you say how ADHD and autism were under diagnosed in girls hit really hard. I was thankfully diagnosed in second grade, but that didn’t stop someone from trying to say I didn’t. The psychiatrist I had when I was around 11 made me take a test to see if I had adhd and it turned out that yes I did. I apparently had one of the most severe cases he’d ever seen according to the test I took.
    Is there a specific reason that ADHD and autism tends to be overlooked or just flat out written off in girls? Is it just the stigma and culture behind mental health?

  • @KatherineXIX
    @KatherineXIX 2 місяці тому +1

    Wait a minute, I just noticed Tweek’s parents put him on Ritalin (and stole it themselves) too, but in his first episode “Gnomes” they revealed he was already diagnosed with ADD and they were just treating it with coffee (later revealed to be laced with meth)…

  • @lizewilcox9898
    @lizewilcox9898 4 місяці тому +2

    The Great Gatsby is one of my favorite novels, the writing is spectacular. Highly recommend

  • @Ottawajames
    @Ottawajames 3 місяці тому +2

    I think there's a discussion to be had as to whether or not Timmy's actually intellectually impaired because there are several episodes where he demonstrates that he is cognitively aware of what's going on and demonstrates that he has an understanding of everything that's happening around him, he just has a mobility issue that's caused by a physical impairment, and the inability to say anything other than his name.

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +1

      He vry clearly plans out framing Jimmy to get him kiced out of scouts and he does so by using photoshop believably in the early 00's.

  • @mmmm-lg2mj
    @mmmm-lg2mj 4 місяці тому +3

    Doc, have you ever heard of a book/movie called "the boy, the mole the fox and the horse" it's a brilliant story that helped me deal with s lot of stuff that happened in my childhood. If you have the time I highly recommend watching it, would also be interesting to hear your take on it

  • @wardenm
    @wardenm 4 місяці тому +4

    For all the crap the show has gotten over the years, It still has somehow wound up with a more inclusive cast than most shows out there. I really do appreciate its representation of disabled people. Their handicap itself is never punched down at, nor is it the whole of the character. All too often, when you have a major disability, it tends to override any significant personality traits in people's minds and become all you're known for. Jimmy is an overly nice stand up comedian. Timmy is an earnest kid with a jealousy streak. The way they handled the kids with special Olympics, or when Cartman faked torrets syndrome, etc etc. Just nice to see handicapped people existing without being a punchline, or for them to be there JUST because they're disabled like a token pandering attempt you might see elsewhere.

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X 4 місяці тому +4

    3:25 Me, 100% Written off as being a bad student cause I was a fast learner and stopped paying attention and never wanted to do homework after I learned something. Took until High school when I had good Teachers who noticed I was acing every test and not cheating for my GPA to improve... Went from 2.5 all middle school to a 3.5 in 8th grade through junior year and a 4.0 Senior year... cause I picked all electives. Dont think I did homework once through all Highschool, half the teachers had it extra credit, the other half only 10-20% of the grade... so I took the B or B-

  • @JacobG093
    @JacobG093 4 місяці тому +1

    I lived the first 29 years of my life with undiagnosed ADHD and Bipolar. Now that i am being treated for both, i can't begin to explain the night and day difference. To be honest, I'm lucky to still be alive with how depressed I've been throughout my adult life. Now, I finally feel like I can accomplish things that others can. Now, at aged 30, I'm finally able to function at full capacity.

  • @matthewgallaway3675
    @matthewgallaway3675 4 місяці тому +3

    Really hate when they say adhd medication does shit like this
    I avoided medication for years because this is the only stuff I’ve seen that medicine do

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому

      It does when you get th wrong one and it's over medicated, which in the 90's was what happened all the time. I had several friends who spent 5-8 years basically numb to everything because of it.

  • @jameshumphreys9715
    @jameshumphreys9715 3 місяці тому +3

    I would test his vocabulary skills, get a picture and have three options.
    Next a math have test, have a sum and 3 options.
    Then see if he can recognise people.
    Then read a short story and have answers on cards.

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +2

      He was able to use photoshop to frame Jimmy to get him kicked out of scouts. He's clearly capable.

    • @jameshumphreys9715
      @jameshumphreys9715 3 місяці тому

      @@kyleellis1825 Toddler these days know how to use mobile phones

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +2

      @@jameshumphreys9715 Yeah, today. When this episode aired though, it was very different. Most houses didn't even have a computer yet.

  • @hk_802
    @hk_802 3 місяці тому

    I think this episode was their take on when ADD was first really being paid attention to in the main stream and was felt to be over diagnosed, putting a bunch of kids on ritalin that didn't need it. I was one of them in the 90's. Where my teacher had a psychologist come and observe me, cause I never paid attention in class. Luckily for me, the psychologist said that I was fine. I just did my work rather quickly, then goofed off because I was bored.

  • @anime_cyko
    @anime_cyko 4 місяці тому +2

    I don’t if it’s just me. But I was really annoyed when they kept saying they’re laughing at him. Uhhh no clearly they were just excited to see him on the stage rocking out.

  • @charlesisdumb395
    @charlesisdumb395 3 місяці тому

    2:39 this actually goes really far back, I've found a census from a workhouse that used to be near me in the 1800s, and you see under the diagnosis it's just labeled "idiot"

  • @Wellnseddich
    @Wellnseddich 4 місяці тому +3

    I'm autistic and to this day still wondering if I have ADD or ADHD as well. I was tested for it during my autism assessment, but the result just said "conspicuous" (I don't know if that's the right word, I'm not a native speaker). But they didn't diagnose me with it formally, it was just never mentioned.

    • @noctisocculta4820
      @noctisocculta4820 3 місяці тому

      Executive dysfunction and hyperfocus are defining traits of both ADHD and autism. Since autism isn't treated, if you're struggling with executive dysfunction you might as well look into ADHD treatment. ADD is called ADHD now, btw, they've been rolled into one.
      I have an ADHD diagnosis simply because there's no treatment for Asperger's(autism) and depression/anxiety treatments have done nothing but severely ruin my life. ADHD treatment helps a lot, it's not perfect but at least it's better than dismissed as "mentally ill with incurable depression." With ADHD medication I don't have severe panic attacks every day (sensory overwhelm from autism) and I'm not covered in bruises from constantly walking into things. Learning that I'm not alone, and not a piece of trash like my doctors would have me believe, has done wonders for me even without medication.

  • @MinimiMax
    @MinimiMax 3 місяці тому

    I actually have first hand experience of ADHD medicine making a child pretty much "a zombie". I work in early childhood education and there was this ADHD case that was so severe, there was pretty much nonother option but to put him on medication way earlier than you'd usually do it, bedore he had even tuened 5. The most worrying side effect of it was that after the medicine started doing its thing, all he did was sit around with tbis empty stare and lack of joy. It took a long time to find the right balance for it and those first couple of months were really unsettling and understandably he was very much against taking the medicine too.

  • @WatashiMachineFullCycle
    @WatashiMachineFullCycle 4 місяці тому +1

    Inattentive ADHD here! I was... lucky? To get a diagnosis when I was 11? Being afab it was pretty remarkable that I was correctly assessed in the early 00s, but because of the stigma around medication I wasn't medicated during school nor was I given any information about ADHD or any additional help. Just, "yup that's adhd all right, okay off you go". And despite having the DX I struggled all throughout school and was written off as lazy or like I didn't care about learning, no matter how much I really wanted to do well. Eventually I just gave up, and graduated late with a really poor GPA. Didn't go to college. Now I am medicated and educated and have developed a system that works for me and surprise surprise I LOVE learning things and I love keeping busy and working on stuff.
    Sidenote I'm strongly against homework in general. Kids already spend tons of time at school as it is.

  • @shipperina2213
    @shipperina2213 2 місяці тому +1

    I recommend watching 'Cartman finds love' or 'Cupid ye' these two are good episodes where Cartman displays symptoms of psychosis

  • @sanchisan6997
    @sanchisan6997 2 місяці тому

    I was diagnosed with ADHD, OCD, depression and anxiety when I was in my late 20s. I really struggled in school, and my parents refused to get me evaluated and just insisted that I was lazy/not trying hard enough. I think they believed that if there was something "wrong" with me that it would make them look bad. 🙄

  • @erina9018
    @erina9018 3 місяці тому +4

    In the US many of us have to read The Great Gastby in high school and it’s sooooooo boring this was over 20 years for me and I still just remember it was a snooze fest but I probably have ADHD so 🤷‍♀️

  • @ZacThaBarber
    @ZacThaBarber 3 місяці тому +1

    Idk why but I really love how you react to this and help inform the viewers

  • @alt7244
    @alt7244 3 місяці тому +3

    I dont believe timmy has an intellectual disability. I believe its completely physical. He is pretty well adjusted for someone in his condition. In the special olympics eposode really shows this

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +1

      He might have a little bit of mental impairment, but he was very clearly able to frame Jimmy.

  • @hockeyhacker97
    @hockeyhacker97 4 місяці тому +2

    I have been diagnosed with autism a few times (once as a kid but my parents never told me, then again as an adult by 2.5 different medical professionals (a bmed doctor who highly suspected it but then my therapist and my psychiatrist came to the same conclusion the exact same week). While not diagnosed with ADHD officially I suspect I have ADHD as well, while in Bmed again recently they started me on Modafinil because in addition to why I was there again I was also having issues where I would go from wide awake to feeling unsafe to drive levels of fatigue in an instant while driving, when I started on that I noticed not just the fatigue being much better but also it was kind of like when I had accidentally put on the right prescription glasses for the first time of that feeling of not knowing just how bad my sight was to "oh this is how things are suppose to look?", but with my ability to focus on things... sure it doesn't help with focusing on the right things but it still is a great improvement over my focus being either on 50,000 things all at once or hyper focused on a single thing to the point where it is detrimental and unproductive. It isn't some magic fix all, but it is a great tool where between the medication and between the therapy I am learning how to have more normal levels of focus on things (that isn't what the therapy is focused on, it is focused on my DV situation and the autism, but in learning certain skills it helps me learn how to not hyperfocus on what is overstimulating me).
    So in my experience meds are not some magic fix all but are an extremely useful tool in addition to other things, in a way it is like the medication is say the hammer while the therapy is learning and gaining the strength to lift and drop that hammer in order to make it function, where the hammer is a needed tool but is useless without knowing how to use the hammer and the strength to use it. And sure you can hammer in that nail without a hammer and use purely the motion from the therapy but the hammer just makes it a lot quicker and less harmful in the process. I am all for a mixture of medicines with therapy and other tools to allow the medication to be a tool, because at the end of the day a tool can only do so much if you don't have the knowledge or strength to use it.

    • @larsvegas1505
      @larsvegas1505 4 місяці тому

      I have a friend who was diagnosed with autism.. after he went to be a ot more unresonable.. u cant have a argument with him ..(better avoid).I felt like the diagnose had given him a free pass to just act like a asshole.. like he is a autist now.. before he would atleast think twice about acting up about somthing.. on that level i dont like people being diagnosed so easy.. and them being like this is how I am deal with it, in result he now has much less friends then before.. people dont like hanging around him so they stay away.
      Taking medicine can also have very different effects on different people.. if somthing works for u thats great.. but never forget to also compare to ur normal state.. being on meds all the time can alter ur normal state..or just stop working after a while.

    • @hockeyhacker97
      @hockeyhacker97 4 місяці тому +3

      @@larsvegas1505 Where as I would argue that autism goes way too undiagnosed. As to your (ex?)friend acting in a way you no longer like you have no clue how hard of a struggle it is to mask 24/7, maybe their change in attitude was to greatly improve their health by no longer forcing themself to mask, you have no clue what was going on behind closed doors when they got back to private areas when they would be able to stop masking and have a breakdown or meltdown or shutdown. You have no clue if they "got worse" or if it actually improved but you just were not seeing the meltdowns because they were able to hide in public but then meltdown when they were with people they felt safe with.
      As to comparing to my "normal state" as you like to say if I tried to live in my authentic "normal state" I would probably not be alive today, I masked for 35 years and it dang near killed me pretending to be someone I am not just in order to be able to hold a job by pretending to be "normal", you highly underestimate just how much of a struggle it can be. But while you are not wrong that some people build up drug tolerances that hardly relates to anything mentioned specially seeing as autism doesn't really get treated with medication, and the difference ADHD medication is the difference being able to function and hold a job and being unable to function and unable to afford food let alone housing, and between the choice of being on medications integrated with therapy or being unable to survive, yeah the answer is clear which one is better, also drug tolerance is more common in the old school ADHD meds like Ritalin and Adderall and is far less common in the newer medications because they function in a different way.

    • @larsvegas1505
      @larsvegas1505 4 місяці тому

      @@hockeyhacker97 In my age ritalin was the normal drug kids would get.. In my opinion way to many boys that were a bit to rowdy in school..
      I do still think that most people are pretending to be normal just to keep a job though its not just u having a hard time.. Most people struggle in life.. I mostly use coffee to get me trough the day.. used to smoke but it was too unhealthy so i quit.
      On the other story i do think its sad that my friend now lost so many social contacts after a doctor told him he was a autist.. people wouldnve cared if he acted a bit more socially.. but i guess thats just who he is now. I do visit from time to time but it takes a lot of energy out of me. Because i have to really think before i say something.. i dont want to upset him every time.

  • @Shannonbarnesdr1
    @Shannonbarnesdr1 3 місяці тому +2

    hey, good music is timeless, im 43 but i listen to everything from Nat king Cole, frank Sinatra, yes, Phil Collins, genesis, Beatles, rolling stones, beach boys, aretha Franklin, Gladys knight, Marvin gaye, temptations, led zeppelin , aerosmith, jimi Hendrix, black sabbath, bob Marley Dennis brown, Errol dunkley, bunny wailer, journey, Jackie Wilson, Wilson Pickett; i can go on forever, i was exposed to and had access to all music from the time i was literally a baby on up through childhood adolescence, teen years etc.

  • @CEOofNano
    @CEOofNano Місяць тому

    I was diagnosed with ADHD back in primary school. Though I was having adverse effects to any and all stimulants I was given. Ive been dealing with it without meds since highschool. The kicker is that nowadays Im not really sure if I had ADHD at all.

  • @nene_xoxo
    @nene_xoxo 4 місяці тому +2

    Your videos are so informative!

  • @williammoore5081
    @williammoore5081 3 місяці тому

    Add was really over diagnosed and medicated in the late 90's. It was a pretty serious issue in the states.

  • @NeuroPandas
    @NeuroPandas 4 місяці тому +1

    Sir! phil collins is not before our time, that soundtrack to Tarzan was amazing hahaha

  • @Kno_Buddy
    @Kno_Buddy 3 місяці тому

    I can’t tell you how many times here in America from 7th grade through the end of college I’ve had homework that kept me up until 2 or 3 in the morning, if not all night. It was really bad in college being in culinary school and staying up doing homework all night just to go into lab at 8 AM and be expected to cut something up using a knife so sharp I would cut clean through my finger before I’d even noticed it got me. I went through school with ADHD, Autism, and PTSD without an official diagnosis until I was 26.

  • @Grigsy
    @Grigsy 4 місяці тому +1

    The US got rid of the Asylum system and the goal was to move everything into the outpatient and community services. The federal government provided plenty of grants. It was the worst mistake the US ever made. Keep healthcare centralized. No, it's not empathetic. No, it's not treating people like equals. But it's the best way to protect everyone, reduce costs, and stop a situation where the mentally ill can only get treatment at jails or the ER.

  • @tie-dyeshyguy3237
    @tie-dyeshyguy3237 28 днів тому

    i think a point that could have been made by south park is addressing the sugar intake between generations affecting the children. i almost expected the doctor prescribing corporal punishment to say , watch how effective my method is after these children have woke up and had there breakfast. underpinning it with a super sugary kid cereal that just amped up there perceived hyperactivity sitting in the background as a normal breakfast.

  • @qienna6677
    @qienna6677 4 місяці тому +1

    Reckon Isaac Hayes being a Scientologist played into why Chef was anti-Ritalin?

  • @Shannonbarnesdr1
    @Shannonbarnesdr1 3 місяці тому +4

    hell, intellectual disability is far more insulting than saying retardation; because saying someone is intellectual disabled, if you really break that word down you are saying that the person is not able to be intellectual, or have intellect. you are saying they are stupid. while retardation simply means slow, or delayed, it does not mean the person is stupid or not able to be intelligent.

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому +1

      yeah, Special needs was my preffered descriptor. But now I'm a monster if I call myself that.

  • @Trux2010
    @Trux2010 4 місяці тому

    In medicines defence, retardation as a word comes from the french "retarde", which means late or slowed.
    So mental retardation makes complete sense

  • @nickbrown2764
    @nickbrown2764 14 днів тому

    Until I was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder at 12 I was just considered bad. This almost resonates.

  • @bisousethiboux
    @bisousethiboux 3 місяці тому

    did anybody ever find out what "applying oneself" actually is? I was told constantly throughout my school years that it was something I needed to do, but I still have no idea what it means beyond having some random bit of waxy paper on my back I could peel off and then self-adhere to a nearby surface for whatever reason. hey, maybe I should've got my friends to help me duct-tape myself to the classroom wall so I could prove I was willing to "apply myself in class"...
    aside from that I remember trying to explain to my mum something about how my brain refused to work right (probably about 15 years before my ADHD diagnosis) and as part of this I unironically quoted the Bart Simpson line "I can't promise I'll try; but I'll try to try" and she got super fucking offended lmao??? like okay guess I can't basically beg for your help without you taking offense Mother, never mind eh...it's not funny, but it's funny, you know?

  • @sorenkazaren4659
    @sorenkazaren4659 3 місяці тому

    I think it speaks to the level of anxiety that schools and testing cause that fully grown adults have actual nightmares about having tests and homework.

  • @MilesPrower69420
    @MilesPrower69420 3 місяці тому

    i took all those add meds as a kid, i was 4 feet tall until 5th grade im 37 now, 100 lbs soaking wet and have chronic pain in my stomach and intestines, my entire adult life was ruined because i was bored at school... ugh

  • @TheLibermania
    @TheLibermania 4 місяці тому

    1:40 a little dream i had several times.
    I work at a call center and woke up several times before, thinking that i'm in a call with a customer. Suddenly my body wakes up and can't hear the customer anymore. I think for seconds how to explain this to my supervisor (i had her image in my head). It takes several seconds more until i realize that my headset isn't plugged in. Then that i don't wear a headset and finally that i'm in my bed.

  • @PlatypusVomit
    @PlatypusVomit 2 місяці тому

    It's a good thing you're entertaining, because that's all you've got going for you.

  • @kingofnonation5843
    @kingofnonation5843 4 місяці тому +1

    Phil Collins killed the Tarzan soundtrack.

  • @justinw7323
    @justinw7323 3 місяці тому

    Timmy and the lord of the underworlds.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 4 місяці тому +6

    A good number of times parents (and kids) use ADD as an excuse to not have to behave in an appropriate manner. I work with such kids on an every day basis and it is important to provide them strong structure and stiff consequences for bad behavior (this applies to all kids).

    • @skloak
      @skloak 4 місяці тому +2

      I was helping a customer one time, and her son (about 4) was running willy-nilly all around the store, pulling things off shelves, smacking into displays, pinching his little sister who was sitting in their basket (she was sobbing and upset about it, he was leaving marks), reaching for things in other people’s carts, squealing and shrieking and just generally being an unholy terror. I paused to ask mom if she needed to go get him, and she just waved dismissively and said “he’s autistic”. Lady, I don’t care if he’s a war veteran, he’s going to get himself hurt, you need to do something, and autism is not an excuse to ignore your child.
      I got his attention, gave him a crayon and some paper, drew one of those “draw this shape without picking up your pencil” things, and asked him to try. He sat right down on the floor and was busy with that crayon and paper for an *hour*. Never managed to draw the shape right, but he was happy, and so was everybody else in the store. Kid was just bored and ignored. I still wonder what ever happened with him (and his poor little sis) sometimes.

  • @stonerguitarist4690
    @stonerguitarist4690 3 місяці тому

    Hey doc any advice for someone with impulse control issues

  • @justjacksmusic2106
    @justjacksmusic2106 4 місяці тому

    I have a question is it valid for Timmy to get diagnosed with ADHD given his ID?

  • @Joseph-xt3el
    @Joseph-xt3el 4 місяці тому

    Honestly, what psychologically makes us have vivid dreams that we are back in school and we totatlly dont even question it. I have them quite a bit and i wake up feeling old and also dumb for believing it. Just curious

  • @baixiaolang
    @baixiaolang 4 місяці тому

    Phil Collins did the music for Tarzan so he was definitely not before your time, or many of the people who were watching South Park at the time lol

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 місяці тому

      Tarzan won the Oscar for best music over South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut so thats why there are so many jabs at Collins in season 4.

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 3 місяці тому

      Lets be honest, sure it was a banger. But that was basically a final lap swing. He wasn't relevent for about a decade before it (which is why he did it so cheap) and hasn't been since.

  • @sylviagreybe672
    @sylviagreybe672 4 місяці тому +2

    Hey, I like Phil Collins!

  • @kathrinekaste
    @kathrinekaste 4 місяці тому +1

    I have dreams about school, but I’m a teacher. Without any study data, just my own biased viewpoint as a SPED teacher, I agree too many boys and not enough girls. Also don’t hit kids.

  • @wastingjam4133
    @wastingjam4133 2 місяці тому

    I am female. Diagnosed with ADHD when I was 3years old. I was medicated briefly but my mother stopped it because she didn't like the drastic change in how I behaved. I stayed unmedicated until I was about 25. At 25 I was represcribed ritalin because the ADHD was causing issues at work. I'm not saying that ADHD didn't cause me problems all those other 20 whatever years because it 100% did. But at this point I was just done trying to deal with everything myself and it was causing issues not just to me but to people around me as well. I got tired of all the comments and remarks from in-laws, employers, coworkers, my own family.. like being constantly told to stop moving around so much, or being asked what was wrong with me. Why was I so squirrelly or twitchy or oh my god can you please sit still or why are you talkinh so fast? can you slow down? Stop doing (insert random thing I did to Keeps my hands busy so I could focus) and pay attention. I was getting in trouble at work because I couldn't just sit at my desk while I worked I had to stand up I had to move, walk, dance, pace all around my little cubicle area which was fine for me but it distracted everybody around me and if I couldn't do that I was taking breaks hourly. Sometimes just to walk to the bathroom and back etc. so I explained all this to my primary doctor. She gave me a prescription for Ritalin. She prescribed me A quick release and slow release in the same dosage. I was to take the quick release when I woke up to start the day. Slow release a bit later so that it took over when the morning dose wore off. She also gave me lower dose quick release for times when I was feeling kinda spastic. Pharmacist told me not to take any of the meds past lunch time because I wouldnt be able to sleep later. Cuz stimulants... Unfortunately for me ritalin didn't have the needed effect. It didn't have a stimulant effect either. Quite the opposite actually. I would be at work (telephone customer service for about 15 companies) and I would be so drowsy. Like falling asleep in public, slurring my words kinda zonked. I would be on hold with a call And not be able to remember if I put the customer on hold, if they put me on hold or even what company they were calling for or if I'd even answered the phone. So again my work is being interfered with. So we tried adjusting dosages, switching when I took which pill, lowering dosages etc until I got so fed up up I just stopped taking it. Talked to my doctor who was going to have an adult ADHD specialist call me about trying other meds etc but my doc mostly useless and the ADHD doc never called. So here I am. 40 years old and once again Im so tired of trying to handle this on my own. As I get older the ADHD finds new and worse ways to fuck with me. And the more I try to explain it the more crazy I sound. Maybe that's what it wants.. maybe I'm just crazy now. Before For anyone says anything about maybe I don't have ADHD, there is no doubt in the minds of anyone who's ever met me that I have severe ADHD. I may have collected some depression and anxiety along the way. Oh well. Too late now

  • @ParsonNathaniel
    @ParsonNathaniel 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm hurt! At 56, I enjoy watching your videos and learning since I work in education... but Phil Collins definitely isn't before my time. Heck! Genesis (the band) isn't before my time! Just kidding. Not hurt. Just thought it funny you thought only younger people watch your channel 😂

    • @catsmom129
      @catsmom129 4 місяці тому

      I’m 51, and yeah, it’s a trip! 😂

  • @drooface1121
    @drooface1121 4 місяці тому +1

    Do the new Ozempic special!

  • @MilesMilesCrocodiles
    @MilesMilesCrocodiles 4 місяці тому

    Don’t you use algebra for medication dosing?

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 3 місяці тому

    Wait. Why is it 2% in adults and 5% in children. Shouldn’t it be a similar percentage. Or are less adults being tested or choosing to not take test for it

  • @thrashinuva
    @thrashinuva 4 місяці тому

    Just saying I hope "Intellectual Disorder" or whatever you called it is the last term we can use. While people are going to use it as an offensive label, it also makes it harder as terms keep changing for the population to adapt and establish better ways to include people into society recognizing differences and why and how they exist.

  • @AndyHoward
    @AndyHoward 4 місяці тому

    "blag" to decieve or trick
    Yup The Great Gatsby -- 208 pages

  • @carpetlayenful
    @carpetlayenful 4 місяці тому

    *Comment is Long*
    What about imbalances that might be caused by sudden injuries. (i.e. shock, trauma, rise/drop in temperatures, non-emergent exposures or biological traits)
    Do seizures or epilepsy end up resulting or causing things like Autism, Development or pathway issues.
    Long term effects are always going to be present as a trade off. Even if it is not noticed right away or at all. Introduction of substances or treatments not originally present. Would require the body adjustments...
    We have only gotten through one generation or so on most of this. No near enough time to match what we have claimed.
    In my opinion, similarities of brain functioning between people and animals. Make theoretic models any more of a solid stand in for live and long living studies.
    I have been thinking these and "Imbalance" Diagnosises. medications prescribed that decrease energy resulting in general disassociation and the ones stabilize energy induced disinterest.

  • @scotth8828
    @scotth8828 4 місяці тому

    HEY! Don't dump on Phil Collins, he was great playing In the Air Tonight...and....that other song...joking, he was okay.

  • @DeReAntiqua
    @DeReAntiqua 4 місяці тому

    The Great Gatsby is one of these novels that gets pushed as being such a great influence on culture but are the most boring slog-fests imaginable. If anyone claims to have been inspired by The Great Gatsby to do literally anything more intellectually taxing than taking a fat one, I call him a liar and a scoundrel.

  • @Nuggetmonk
    @Nuggetmonk 3 місяці тому

    this may be a random and weird question to ask here but it is weird to discover you have adhd with 39?
    im recently told i should do a test, which turned out positive for adhd but i always thought you know that way earlier.
    you have to be a fidgedy kid to have adhd.
    the more i read about it and learn the more i think "this could be me".

    • @noctisocculta4820
      @noctisocculta4820 3 місяці тому +1

      No one outgrows ADHD if it's a legitimate diagnosis. You can still be a perfectly functional adult and have ADHD, it's only a disorder if you're suffering. People tend to "outgrow" it because as adults they're not suffering abuse in school and are able to do things they're passionate about which play to their ADHD strengths. Everyone in F1 is either ADHD or on the spectrum and they're extremely functional. If you're concerned, you should book a psychiatrist who specialises in adult diagnoses.

  • @kurtrobertson495
    @kurtrobertson495 3 місяці тому +1

    Timmy

  • @himarei
    @himarei 3 місяці тому

    Is it possible that because our societies are becoming more and more black and white, more centralized, with more regularisation, the people that aren't as easily indoctrinated during school are seen a being bad people (all kind of labels), instead of society using their differences in a constructive ways.

  • @Aiveq
    @Aiveq 3 місяці тому

    i have hard time taking ADHD seriously when all of it filled with maybe, probably, nuance and all the bs. i can tell a cripple without maybe, i can tell eye color without maybe. there no maybe cat, maybe dog. all this new mental jargon filled with uncertainty yet over-medicated

  • @thatmessy132
    @thatmessy132 4 місяці тому

    Is that a copy of "Yellowface" on your shelf?

  • @The_Charlatan
    @The_Charlatan 3 місяці тому

    Could you react to season 15 Episode 12 1%?

  • @alecrechtiene558
    @alecrechtiene558 4 місяці тому

    The use of the r word was very prevalent in early South Park. Probably good that they’ve scaled that back to close to 0.

  • @canuckcriticism2226
    @canuckcriticism2226 4 місяці тому

    You should react to homelander in the boys universe. Like his childhood, personality and emotions.

  • @wesleythomas7125
    @wesleythomas7125 8 днів тому

    Timmy's pretty based.

  • @alt7244
    @alt7244 3 місяці тому

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................ after this, i might have adhd. I didnt understand a word of the narrative

  • @pinkiepiereincarnate2291
    @pinkiepiereincarnate2291 4 місяці тому

    I'm very sure that I probably have Adhd so I wish that adhd was over diagnosed where I'm at but maybe it is and I'm just unlucky that I'm not white or a man😩

  • @nydcat
    @nydcat 4 місяці тому

    I personally find that South Park can be damaging when they pass their personal moral judgement as humor; great use your status to increase social stigma... Kids with adhd need an intervention plan, not raw punishment. Trying to punish a kid that won't focus because they can't focus? sorry not gonna work

  • @Oysters176
    @Oysters176 3 місяці тому

    I love the 'r word', I hate the modern words.

  • @Marshy50
    @Marshy50 4 місяці тому +1

    make mental asylums great again