I don't need an LLM to help me understand the chain of events that has led me to commenting "I'm a grint-pilled gorm-maxxer", it was when I was doubled over with laughter, just now
Ed's explanation of Deepseek is super useful and fascinating. Can't believe US tech has essentially been using the naive approach this whole time (although the people who actually knew what they were doing probably had an inkling that this was a new approach they could and should be exploring, their managers just said no. I have a professor with a doctorate in natural language processing and his view of the AI industry is basically "look how they massacred my boy (using large language models to improve machine translation for personal use)"
It really goes to show the egos of the people in charge around it in America, thinking they GENUINELY are smarter than everyone else and that no one else can hold a candle to their genius. Turns out not only can they, but they can do so easily and with way fewer costs.
When I heard November say "Grinted" instead of "Vinted" I did wonder if it would just go over the plate and be forgotten. Silly me. My sides properly hurt now, well done everyone.
i was baking while watching this episode and, near the end, said to my phone "Set a timer for 20 minutes called Grinted. uh. Brownies" and now that's on my phone so thanks guys
"That's why these people think this shit is magical... it models a subordinate that's actually as stupid as they assume their subordinates are." (Heavily paraphrased) Man, reflecting on the people in my life who evangelise and embrace the tech who aren't tech bros convinced they're building God you all hit the nail on the head. Most normal people have reaction ranging from "neat" to "why?", but it's the type who's convinced their ability to delegate is more valuable than the labour that's delegated that seem convinced this shit will flawlessly replace 80% of the workforce by the summer.
The self-reflexive stupidity is stunning. Because the jobs you can replace with this type of crap are deeply weird and embedded in a fucked system anyway. So far from meeting actual human needs. I will never forget going to uni with a girl who dreamed of inventing sidewalks (UK: pavements) because then "people living close by would meet each other". And just the other week in IT someone was telling us to optimize the powerpoint clicker to make it more reliablr. Like, no, just use a keyboard to change slides.
Can we all assume China waited to make the Deepseek announcement until after Trump’s ‘putting 500 billion in a joint venture for AI server farms’ announcement?
Timeline doesn't add up. First DeepSeek releases were in November. Chatbot App got released on January 10th. Trump inaurguration was on the 20th, 500 billion $ announcement on the 21st. Announcement was not a reaction since the markets hadn't realized just how disruptive the LLM might be.
I disagree there was no plan for AI, the plan just didn't have much if anything to do with producing good, usable tech. The goals were: 1. Provide a heat sink for huge amounts of investor cash that were floating around SV and didn't really have anywhere else to go. 2. Take the opportunity to consolidate huge amounts of physical capital in the form of data centers, land to build data centers on, infrastructure to power and maintain data centers, etc. 3. Use AI as a pretense to push for deregulation and favorable court precedents which can be exploited in other ways. 4. Latch big tech even more irrevocably to the Military/Intelligence/Surveillance gravy train. DeepSeek may have jeopordized #1 and #2, we'll see. I would think #3 and #4 are still in play.
There's the headline I saw where Zuck is ordering his engineers to understand how DeepSeek was made, and how Meta didn't manage to do the same earlier. Seemingly masculine energy hasn't been a very successful idea for him.
Ed Zitron sounds a little like November doing a geezer impression. (literal shower-thought; I listen to podcasts in the shower because I have a problem).
I don't need an LLM to help me understand the chain of events that has led me to commenting "I'm a grint-pilled gorm-maxxer", it was when I was doubled over with laughter, just now
Ed's explanation of Deepseek is super useful and fascinating. Can't believe US tech has essentially been using the naive approach this whole time (although the people who actually knew what they were doing probably had an inkling that this was a new approach they could and should be exploring, their managers just said no. I have a professor with a doctorate in natural language processing and his view of the AI industry is basically "look how they massacred my boy (using large language models to improve machine translation for personal use)"
It really goes to show the egos of the people in charge around it in America, thinking they GENUINELY are smarter than everyone else and that no one else can hold a candle to their genius. Turns out not only can they, but they can do so easily and with way fewer costs.
When I heard November say "Grinted" instead of "Vinted" I did wonder if it would just go over the plate and be forgotten. Silly me. My sides properly hurt now, well done everyone.
I genuinely have a copy of Thunderpants on DVD in grint condition.
i was baking while watching this episode and, near the end, said to my phone "Set a timer for 20 minutes called Grinted. uh. Brownies" and now that's on my phone so thanks guys
What a grintastic episode.
You’re a mean one, Mister Grint
I guess sam altman is just going to have to grint and bear it.
Perfect guest for the moment. Ever since this all broke I’ve been wanting to hear from Ed about it.
wowee they’re right again, what a fantastic group of grintillectuals
This one’s a fine grintage
"That's why these people think this shit is magical... it models a subordinate that's actually as stupid as they assume their subordinates are." (Heavily paraphrased)
Man, reflecting on the people in my life who evangelise and embrace the tech who aren't tech bros convinced they're building God you all hit the nail on the head. Most normal people have reaction ranging from "neat" to "why?", but it's the type who's convinced their ability to delegate is more valuable than the labour that's delegated that seem convinced this shit will flawlessly replace 80% of the workforce by the summer.
The self-reflexive stupidity is stunning. Because the jobs you can replace with this type of crap are deeply weird and embedded in a fucked system anyway. So far from meeting actual human needs. I will never forget going to uni with a girl who dreamed of inventing sidewalks (UK: pavements) because then "people living close by would meet each other". And just the other week in IT someone was telling us to optimize the powerpoint clicker to make it more reliablr. Like, no, just use a keyboard to change slides.
Can we all assume China waited to make the Deepseek announcement until after Trump’s ‘putting 500 billion in a joint venture for AI server farms’ announcement?
Timeline doesn't add up. First DeepSeek releases were in November. Chatbot App got released on January 10th.
Trump inaurguration was on the 20th, 500 billion $ announcement on the 21st.
Announcement was not a reaction since the markets hadn't realized just how disruptive the LLM might be.
For sure. Like nobody had heard peep about this. They had been keeping the lid on until the USA's punching itself in the Richard Nixon was inevitable
longer episode than usual I see... i suppose it's more of a marathon than a grint
Grotos Grinted?
GRINT!
Nova should rupert them to HR
Arruda did the J-Roc airport luggage scam, including the "and I'm innocent, until my guilt is proven" at the end ☠☠
was the grint there?
I disagree there was no plan for AI, the plan just didn't have much if anything to do with producing good, usable tech.
The goals were:
1. Provide a heat sink for huge amounts of investor cash that were floating around SV and didn't really have anywhere else to go.
2. Take the opportunity to consolidate huge amounts of physical capital in the form of data centers, land to build data centers on, infrastructure to power and maintain data centers, etc.
3. Use AI as a pretense to push for deregulation and favorable court precedents which can be exploited in other ways.
4. Latch big tech even more irrevocably to the Military/Intelligence/Surveillance gravy train.
DeepSeek may have jeopordized #1 and #2, we'll see. I would think #3 and #4 are still in play.
There's the headline I saw where Zuck is ordering his engineers to understand how DeepSeek was made, and how Meta didn't manage to do the same earlier.
Seemingly masculine energy hasn't been a very successful idea for him.
Ed Zitron sounds a little like November doing a geezer impression. (literal shower-thought; I listen to podcasts in the shower because I have a problem).
it's the Grint one!
In different circumstances, we'd be extremely happy to not have to build 200 nuclear power plants for ask Jeeves queries.
But we're upset apparently.
The fact that they weren't building those was the key indicator that none of the AI grifters actually believe it's the future.
PORTUGAL MENTIONED!!!!!
Duolingo i might need you again
these australians really know how to podcast
Can't hear the New York Times say "Imagine" without immediately hearing "seven vajañas."
Is burrying my golden arm a good investment?
46:43 ooohhh that
is a slur
why is rick donald trump and morty micky mouse bro
I wonder if SamAlt is gonna end up yanno... deeply deboned by the people whose bag he's fumbled