Nice comparison, for me hm70r all the way. Excellent runtime and ease of use. High cri flood is the best mode. Working in the dark for many hours. This keeps me going.
@zaanea1 I never understood if this HM70R drops in brightness after a few minutes. The official graph of the manufacturer does not show details, it can only be seen that after about 20 or 30 minutes it drops from Turbo level to an intermediate point between High and Turbo. (but it is not clear if they are 600, 700 or 800 lumens) Also on the flood level we see a drop in the graph but it is not clear whether it drops to 200 or 300 lumens. Can you tell anything about this from your use of the headlamp? Thank you
I had HL60R and it was awesome. a bit heavy (cant expect less from aluminium cased, 18650 powered headlamp), but for its price, it was one of best headlamp for me.if HL60 is anywhere close to 60R, its a keeper in my opinion. if weight is problem, petzl produces amazing ultralight AAA/CORE hybrid headlamps.
I haven't had a headlamp with high cri light before, so for me , i would want to get the fenix headlamp just to experience a higher quality headlamp lighting situation , because i'm quite fussy about the temperature tint of the led light . I use headlamps every night for my job .
greetings from sunny Kyrgyzstan! You guys are the best and very attentive! thanks for the comparison, this is what I was looking for and waiting for! Great job! Thank you for noting my comment, it's very nice!!!
@@rsilvers129I think the OPcs point was that the reviewer said, or insinuated, that the weight is not very different, and it's actually very different.
You guys at Longhorn Tactical have almost convinced me to start buying Nitecore products again. Please keep up these entertaining and informative videos.
The most important thing is not about how bright it is! It is about how long the light lasts. A very bright light often last 20 minutes before the battery drains.
@@rsilvers129 indeed, some LedLenser are very good. I gave to my brother and to my uncle the MT10, for bycicle and fishing. But some LedLenser are very power hungry, with a low runtime, lower then stated by them, especially at higher levels.
Fenix are pretty accurate in my experience. HM70R specs give accurate run-times from what others are reporting. The claims for the HM65 though are way over the top.
@@randomescu Depends where you start. If you run high/turbo then the drop off is more dramatic and deeper than if you start at a lower light output. I work on the basis of using 50% of the max output most of the time, and at this point, the lights seem to deliver. I check the runtime and step-down for the mid/high settings and see what it does. HM70R seems better than HP25R V2 in that it gives 500 lm, not 400 lm, and no step-down. 65R-T gives half the run-time posted on the box vs. 65R, because they are exaggerated. I'm not sure why these lights are so far out. You can check the run-times mathematically. Assume 200 mAh per lumen and you can easily check how close the box figures are (200 mAh will result in conserative estimates but still close to real-world). The lights I have are all around 156 mAh/lm. Battery capacity / box run time / lumens = mAh per lm the figure is based on. It should be 150-200 if it is accurate.
angling the light is much better- more smaller steps- on Fenix. i owned a Nitecore headlamp and gave it away to my uncle, yesterday. and i ordered another Fenix, hp16r. i already own the hm65r-t. runtimes are awesome on both Nitecore and Fenix, ofc considering the power source. the flood light on Fenix is warmer, so a good thing. but the main incovenient of Nitecore is again the fact i could not oriened it where i wanted. always it was too high or too low!
Your sarcastic humor is very similar to mine. I bet a lot of people don't even catch some of it! lol Great video - very informative and I love that you don't skip any details! I subscribed and liked the video - thanks for the work you put into it! 🙂 Oh, and you get extra points for being the first person I've ever heard use the word superfluous other than myself! 😂
@@ApocGuy yep it's 3500 amh and well on the spot light on 400 lumens but goi g down to next setting it was finally in for 18 hours then 6 hours on spot lowest mode
Even if the quotes lumens were accurate, and there is no reason to think they are, we don’t know how quickly they drop down. You really can’t give points for what they call the lumens.
11:30 Actually diverting that sweat away from your forehead to sides is a godsend and not marketing gibberish. It keeps sweat away from your flowing into your eyes.
@@oO2Pro4UOo I don't know how high tech your eyebrows are, but for most people, when working up a real sweat for an extended period of time, the "builtin" sweat protectors just won't do. There's simply too much water to absorb.
Nitecore NEVER. I had over 200.00 worth of their lights fail, spectacularly. I will never buy Nitecore again. I own over 100 lights, the 2 nitecore are the ONLY ONES TO EVER FAIL. Don't buy Nitecore unless you have money to burn or think 2 years is the lifetime of a $100.00 light
Maybe your unlucky with nitecore ive owned a few nitecore lights and they have never let me down over the past 7yrs out in the fields & at work... sometimes we do get a batch of faulty item's in anything we buy some people are lucky never to obtain them and some do...
@@jamescline9973 yeah, I have a problem, 21 headlights alone. The skilhunt is my favorite with the TIR lens and 5K tint emitter. It's perfect for mechanic and close up work
I have the Acebeam H 40 high cri. I like the high cri, but I have come to really appreciate the convenience of usb c recharging. I just ordered the Fenix HM70R. The floodlight is said to be cri 90. I am sorry to disagree with you, but my 2 favorite headlamps are the Nitecore NU35 and the Nitecore HC68. The Fenix is similar to the HC68, but has high cri and a longer runtime. I have never had a problem with my Nitecores, and use them more than all the rest of my headlamps put together. If they fail anytime soon I will change my opinion.
The fenix withstands extreme low temperatures, the nitecore does not! We would have to buy a special battery separately that costs more than 35 dollars. Nope?
I believe nitecore sells a special cold weather battery that has higher output in extreme cold situations down to -40 compared to the degrading performance of any typical 18650 as the temperature drops. Fenix also made special cold weather batteries for the same purpose but it appears they discontinued them.
Runtime ,runtime runtime , for fuck sake , unless your in the field naked without a rucksack why not carry a spare battery? Its around 50 grams or 68 fir a 21700 .
Nice comparison, for me hm70r all the way. Excellent runtime and ease of use. High cri flood is the best mode. Working in the dark for many hours. This keeps me going.
Thoughts between this and the hm65r?
@zaanea1
I never understood if this HM70R drops in brightness after a few minutes.
The official graph of the manufacturer does not show details, it can only be seen that after about 20 or 30 minutes it drops from Turbo level to an intermediate point between High and Turbo. (but it is not clear if they are 600, 700 or 800 lumens)
Also on the flood level we see a drop in the graph but it is not clear whether it drops to 200 or 300 lumens.
Can you tell anything about this from your use of the headlamp?
Thank you
I had HL60R and it was awesome. a bit heavy (cant expect less from aluminium cased, 18650 powered headlamp), but for its price, it was one of best headlamp for me.if HL60 is anywhere close to 60R, its a keeper in my opinion. if weight is problem, petzl produces amazing ultralight AAA/CORE hybrid headlamps.
I haven't had a headlamp with high cri light before, so for me , i would want to get the fenix headlamp just to experience a higher quality headlamp lighting situation , because i'm quite fussy about the temperature tint of the led light . I use headlamps every night for my job .
greetings from sunny Kyrgyzstan! You guys are the best and very attentive! thanks for the comparison, this is what I was looking for and waiting for! Great job! Thank you for noting my comment, it's very nice!!!
The Nitecore weighs 4.18 ounces. The Fenix weighs 7.27 ounces.
People who buy the 70 specifically wanted the 5000 mAh battery.
@@rsilvers129I think the OPcs point was that the reviewer said, or insinuated, that the weight is not very different, and it's actually very different.
nice.. can you compare again with fenix hm65rt
thx u
You guys at Longhorn Tactical have almost convinced me to start buying Nitecore products again. Please keep up these entertaining and informative videos.
That's because their other UA-cam channel is called Nitecore store lol
@@M.L.Knotts is it actually? Lol cuz I came here for references on what I should buy
@@JaRa911 yep sure is go to that other channel you'll see the same dude doing reviews in the same place
@@M.L.Knotts confirmed
@@JaRa911 I'm not insinuating that there flashlights are bad or anything, they are decent, but they're advertisement practices are not
You should switch the headlamp position to match the score position..
😭 why I did not see this...
Thanks for being on. Great technical and humorous too!
The most important thing is not about how bright it is! It is about how long the light lasts. A very bright light often last 20 minutes before the battery drains.
both Nitecore and Fenix are pretty honest about their runtime. one who greately exagerate is LedLenser, but not on all their products.
@@randomescu and yet my 12 year old LED Lenser is still probably my favorite light. In the end, it’s beam quality that matters.
@@rsilvers129 indeed, some LedLenser are very good. I gave to my brother and to my uncle the MT10, for bycicle and fishing. But some LedLenser are very power hungry, with a low runtime, lower then stated by them, especially at higher levels.
Dude, Runtime, runtime. That is critical when you have work to do. Please consider in future reviews, as most manufacturers exaggerate the runtime
No, he is paid do not say that, see other videos from him
Fenix are pretty accurate in my experience. HM70R specs give accurate run-times from what others are reporting. The claims for the HM65 though are way over the top.
@@paradoxicalcat7173 someone said there are true but with a great loss of lumens. while the 65r-t is more regularised and last only half of 65r.
@@randomescu Depends where you start. If you run high/turbo then the drop off is more dramatic and deeper than if you start at a lower light output. I work on the basis of using 50% of the max output most of the time, and at this point, the lights seem to deliver.
I check the runtime and step-down for the mid/high settings and see what it does. HM70R seems better than HP25R V2 in that it gives 500 lm, not 400 lm, and no step-down.
65R-T gives half the run-time posted on the box vs. 65R, because they are exaggerated. I'm not sure why these lights are so far out.
You can check the run-times mathematically. Assume 200 mAh per lumen and you can easily check how close the box figures are (200 mAh will result in conserative estimates but still close to real-world). The lights I have are all around 156 mAh/lm.
Battery capacity / box run time / lumens = mAh per lm the figure is based on. It should be 150-200 if it is accurate.
Just buy a higher mah battery , or if you vape, stick a flattop inside with a magnet on the end of the battery
angling the light is much better- more smaller steps- on Fenix. i owned a Nitecore headlamp and gave it away to my uncle, yesterday. and i ordered another Fenix, hp16r. i already own the hm65r-t. runtimes are awesome on both Nitecore and Fenix, ofc considering the power source. the flood light on Fenix is warmer, so a good thing. but the main incovenient of Nitecore is again the fact i could not oriened it where i wanted. always it was too high or too low!
Battery life on both lights please when lights are in thanks
Your sarcastic humor is very similar to mine. I bet a lot of people don't even catch some of it! lol Great video - very informative and I love that you don't skip any details! I subscribed and liked the video - thanks for the work you put into it! 🙂 Oh, and you get extra points for being the first person I've ever heard use the word superfluous other than myself! 😂
Nice comparison.
We have a Nitecore fanboy here :D
Which company do you think has better quality and customer service? I’m trying to decide between these two
Hint- It's not Nitecore
@@richardr5013 👁️👄👁️
Have you tested the hm65r running tines my fenix on 400 lumens lasted 4 hours not 22 as stared on box
there is no way one could get 22 hours on 400 lumens from 18650...just physically impossible.
@@ApocGuy yep it's 3500 amh and well on the spot light on 400 lumens but goi g down to next setting it was finally in for 18 hours then 6 hours on spot lowest mode
Even if the quotes lumens were accurate, and there is no reason to think they are, we don’t know how quickly they drop down. You really can’t give points for what they call the lumens.
Thank you
Sr71 vrs the HC35 ....... Ill bet on Fenix but .....
11:30 Actually diverting that sweat away from your forehead to sides is a godsend and not marketing gibberish. It keeps sweat away from your flowing into your eyes.
God gave you two eyebrows and eyelashes for that :D No need to worry
@@oO2Pro4UOo I don't know how high tech your eyebrows are, but for most people, when working up a real sweat for an extended period of time, the "builtin" sweat protectors just won't do.
There's simply too much water to absorb.
Nitecore NEVER. I had over 200.00 worth of their lights fail, spectacularly. I will never buy Nitecore again. I own over 100 lights, the 2 nitecore are the ONLY ONES TO EVER FAIL.
Don't buy Nitecore unless you have money to burn or think 2 years is the lifetime of a $100.00 light
Thanks for the heads-up! I've been very impressed with Fenix so far. Think I'll get the HM70.
Maybe your unlucky with nitecore ive owned a few nitecore lights and they have never let me down over the past 7yrs out in the fields & at work... sometimes we do get a batch of faulty item's in anything we buy some people are lucky never to obtain them and some do...
Over 100 lights? I thought I was obsessive with 15!
@@jamescline9973 yeah, I have a problem, 21 headlights alone. The skilhunt is my favorite with the TIR lens and 5K tint emitter. It's perfect for mechanic and close up work
I have the Acebeam H 40 high cri. I like the high cri, but I have come to really appreciate the convenience of usb c recharging. I just ordered the Fenix HM70R. The floodlight is said to be cri 90. I am sorry to disagree with you, but my 2 favorite headlamps are the Nitecore NU35 and the Nitecore HC68. The Fenix is similar to the HC68, but has high cri and a longer runtime. I have never had a problem with my Nitecores, and use them more than all the rest of my headlamps put together. If they fail anytime soon I will change my opinion.
Biased review. Your other channel is a NITECORE store channel.
I want my fenix ❤ i want my fenix ❤❤
The fenix withstands extreme low temperatures, the nitecore does not! We would have to buy a special battery separately that costs more than 35 dollars. Nope?
I believe nitecore sells a special cold weather battery that has higher output in extreme cold situations down to -40 compared to the degrading performance of any typical 18650 as the temperature drops. Fenix also made special cold weather batteries for the same purpose but it appears they discontinued them.
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Runtime ,runtime runtime , for fuck sake , unless your in the field naked without a rucksack why not carry a spare battery?
Its around 50 grams or 68 fir a 21700 .
TOUGH!!