not related to this video but im havin an issue with my ax24 20%od in front metal trans gears (injora) 050 50 turn injora purple and mb100 esc pinion angle is good driveshafts are slip joints runnin hot rc ct6a transmitter n reciever i have no n i mean no torque in reverse i know the mb100 is 50% reverse but this is way worse anybody have a clue? oh n i did shim diffs they spin well
It actually is the esc cutting power to 50% in reverse. Injora just came out with an updated version of the mb100. I was having the same issue with my mb100. I tried different motors, checked for bind in reverse and it all came down to the esc cutting power in reverse. Hope this helps.
@@dizturbednomad6253 no sir that was our 1st thought as well it literally wont back over my hand layin flat on table but were thinkin that esc maybe bad
@@dizturbednomad6253 its way less thsn 50% seeriously wont climb over my hand flat maybe i have 1 of my transmission gears in wrong ya think? imput the metal gears in it
Exactly. I am in australia and shipping costs $40+ for almost all brands such as lgrp since they are in the US. Cheaper products and no ridiculous shipping costs ends up being hundreds less. Can’t complain.
I love injora products, the haven't let me down yet and I am a bit baffled when some mainstream RC content creators look down on Injora for some reason.
The look of the rigg is just amazing. You're just killing the game with the mix of great performers with scaling looks/details. Best builder on yt at the moment!
I'm happy to find out that the Injora is on the same level. Furitek has had are hobby by the balls for years now. It's nice to see cheaper options....Finally 🤘🏼
Injora if you’re reading this… Please refine your esc, get rid of that big on/off switch and excess wiring.. These are 24scale crawlers not 1/10ths.. Thanks for the comparison vid 24 Yep
Just got the same motor and ESC from Injora. Couldn't pass it up for the price. Glad to hear you like it. It's going in the Redcat Ascent 18. My first brushless.
I think you were honest and accurate trey! I've had alot of trouble getting ahold of anyone with furitek so my micro komodos will be replaced with SMPs as they crap the bed. That'd be cool to get a video of the hardpark chassis. kinda frustrating they only offer cantilever with the chassis and idk if it helps or hurts before I grabbed one. Thanks!
In addition to not wanting to spend 50-100% of the initial cost of my mini on a brushless upgrade, the biggest obstacle is having to switch from my stock receiver/ESC to a receiver to pair with the new brushless ESC. I'd like to switch my mini over to my Spektrum radio, but don't know of any micro receivers for it. I know that most people don't care about interiors, but my build has a full interior and full-depth pickup bed. I don't see keeping that with any of the brushless setups.
I think it's doable with the right setup. My one WT Micro truck (small to begin with) has an interior with a MOFO RC brushless setup. I'm using a flysky gt5 remote with micro recievers. I understand about wanting to switch remotes, it took me months before I finally got one.
I've managed to include a fair bit of interior on a couple different builds using the Furitek Micro Komodo combo and a Turbo Racing receiver. If you play your cards right, you can fit it all under the hood.
@@CK4RC Thank you!! I'm too stupid to answer that so I asked my buddy WT Micro. He says "Yes it does, am32 architecture supports sine drive startup. It actually seems to work better than foc"
It may just be me but I feel like maybe the injora setup for sure needs a tune. The furitek was for sure smoother in my opinion and the injora was definitely cogging but didn't seem to be too bad.
@@d-rock4437 I think it looks worse after rewatching the video. In person it didnt seem bad but there was one little spot where it wanted to stutter (i think)
THIS is the motor I'm dropping in my Mazz Cheat Code V3, and here you make this video! Nice. Also, IMO purple sucks ass, and Red is awesome!... so there's that.
Hey man, thanks for the comparison! You can connect the injora ESC to your computer but you have to install some stuff to do that. Took me a couple tries but I got it working. You can decase both the ESC and the switch thingi to save some space and weight but be careful not to rip off the cables on the ESC. I might be wrong but I feel like the injora drains my battery pretty dam fast compared to my 2s furitek kit, but that might be because the furitek is a tiny tire light weight rig and the other one has brass wheels and the big black labels.. what do you think? Also, Injora recommended tuning the ESC for the motor before running running it but not sure if it's necessary.
Alright man, you got to give some info on that teaser F600 in the beginning. Looks sick. As far as the Fat Viper, any idea if you can getaway with a micro ESC? But they are definitely giving Furitek a run for the money. Maybe Furiteks prices will come down some.
If anything this will force the others to adjust their prices. The Injora ESC should be tunable with an external tuner, and laptop. This is not as easy as the Furitek stuff and I have not seen the Injora dashboard yet to compare it to the RockWolf software dashboard that runs on the same firmware as the Injora ESC. My rig with a RockWolf runs so much smoother and better with a 3s battery, I am wondering if the Injora setup would like more voltage as well, I did notice some low speed cogging a bit but it wasn't bad for box stock with no tuning. Sucks that it coms with that huge battery connector on it.
I would like to see more of HardPark products reviewed. So yes, definitely. Cantilever suspension is cool. The HP links... are they good?.. they have the clearance, does titanium stick?.. it's lighter and stronger, so that's good.. and it's titanium, so it just sounds cool. 😂😂😂 But yeah, video on it!
@@brandonupchurch5015 i haven't tested it yet, but just put together a V3 with HP Gladiator length high clearance links, they move very freely and they seem quite strong. The axles in hand are absolutely beautiful pieces of equipment, though again, haven't tested the rig yet and waiting on parts, they remind me of the Terminator robot, all metal built in a certain way, quite impressive.
👍👍 awesome i’m here watching Saturday, August 3 7:22 PM just got done watching you out on that huge rock out in the woods, that is a great rock👍👍 well I’m off to watch
Did you not reprogram the mbl32 injora ESC? It says you need to download the AM32 and tell it what KV and poles of the 2204, because default was setup for the regular Viper 1621. Im surprised it worked as well as it did, AM32 certainly has tons of adjustments via PC
I just got the Big Viper so Ive been reading the instructions, havent installed any motors or programs on the PC yet but ive messed with open drone ESC firmware before, AM32 is open source for drones and cars
Thanks for the review glad you didn’t wait I’m just about to order a Injora so I’m trying to get as much info as I can so it was very helpful to me. I thought maybe it was a Bigfoot you heard or Dogman.😂
I know this is about those motors but all I can do is watch that cantilever rear suspension work, so yeah I'm going to say I would like a video on that chassis.
its kinda strange, everyone has a great review of the 1621 Viper BUT Injora left a YT comment saying they took it off the market til they develop a better 1621 with better slow speed control. Its not sold out, a V2 is coming
I thought that little purple motor their new one would have more wheel speed than what it does but maybe if I'm able to switch it to a mod 5 spur an opinion it can pick up the wheel speed it is really smooth but it just ain't enough will speed for me I like to go to slow crawl and jump up something if I have to it is nice and little though
I would probably just go with the purple motor is a lot cheaper, appreciate the video. I’ll catch you on the next one and tell them peace and chicken grease😁😁👍👍👋👋😎
I am finding the Injora esc w/viper kit and the furitek 2s brushless starter kit to be pretty much a dead even wash. However I know the lizard pro will work great with my mofo motors and I have not yet tried any mofo brushless motors with the injora MBL32.
You can use the injora on the furitek. (And vice versa) but you don’t “tune the motor”. You tune the esc. So, hooking up the Injora motor to the furitek esc would not allow to “tune the motor” as there is no such thing.
@@mjspeedrunrc6220 Video seems to make it look a bit worse than it was. It has a slight stutter at a certain speed but it wasnt noticable when using it
I just plugged in my brand Furitek szk and the esc smoked. Customer service has been terrible. They want me to take a video of it..then send it in for testing before they refund
Esc let you down dude. Needs to be reprogrammed for better transition from slow to regular speed. The fat viper was choking a little. Do prefer the smaller diameter motors for lower center of gravity 👍🤠👍
Where you at bro cuz we have a lot of frogs like that around my house where are you from I mean I just sent you a friend request on Facebook also a lot of guys are into scale which I'm kind of the opposite I'm into more performance it's good to see your stuff I really like it then
not related to this video but im havin an issue with my ax24 20%od in front metal trans gears (injora) 050 50 turn injora purple and mb100 esc pinion angle is good driveshafts are slip joints runnin hot rc ct6a transmitter n reciever i have no n i mean no torque in reverse i know the mb100 is 50% reverse but this is way worse anybody have a clue? oh n i did shim diffs they spin well
Pinned the comment, someone smarter than me help this man.
It actually is the esc cutting power to 50% in reverse. Injora just came out with an updated version of the mb100. I was having the same issue with my mb100. I tried different motors, checked for bind in reverse and it all came down to the esc cutting power in reverse. Hope this helps.
@@dizturbednomad6253 no sir that was our 1st thought as well it literally wont back over my hand layin flat on table but were thinkin that esc maybe bad
@@dizturbednomad6253 its way less thsn 50% seeriously wont climb over my hand flat maybe i have 1 of my transmission gears in wrong ya think? imput the metal gears in it
@@dizturbednomad6253 oh n dont take me as rude i dont type well n brain goes too fast sometimes n i come off as rude when really im not
Injora is killing the game with making the Hobby affordable because these little crawlers can get deep into your pocket ✌🏽
Exactly. I am in australia and shipping costs $40+ for almost all brands such as lgrp since they are in the US. Cheaper products and no ridiculous shipping costs ends up being hundreds less. Can’t complain.
@@lachieauden4779 40 bucks?! thats wild
I love injora products, the haven't let me down yet and I am a bit baffled when some mainstream RC content creators look down on Injora for some reason.
The look of the rigg is just amazing. You're just killing the game with the mix of great performers with scaling looks/details. Best builder on yt at the moment!
@@JanSonnemann ty!!!
The viper motor/esc setup looks great but its hard to beat how quiet the Furiteks always are. Definitely hope Furtiek drops their price some though
I'm happy to find out that the Injora is on the same level. Furitek has had are hobby by the balls for years now. It's nice to see cheaper options....Finally 🤘🏼
injora should make an app for their new brushless motors as soon as possible.
been waiting for this review, i got this ordered and been anxious for it to arrive, going to be my first brushless too
Should be good!
@@24Yepp yea hopefully mine comes with the stock battery connector, since I purchased as a combo
So glad you said the name of that chassis. Was frantically screenshotting. YES, video
Hardpark RC HardGoblin 👍
Injora if you’re reading this… Please refine your esc, get rid of that big on/off switch and excess wiring.. These are 24scale crawlers not 1/10ths.. Thanks for the comparison vid 24 Yep
Just got the same motor and ESC from Injora. Couldn't pass it up for the price. Glad to hear you like it. It's going in the Redcat Ascent 18. My first brushless.
Did you try the Furitek Motor with the Injora ESC? and if so did it preform the same ? great comparrison video!!!
@@radioactivescalerc i havn't, I've been told it all works the same though 🤷🏼♂️
That Mercedes :) Love it.
UA-cam recently recommended one of your videos. Really enjoy the content. Just realized you are also from Pa.
@@michaelhite1433 Thank you!! South central area
Thanks for the comparison
I think you were honest and accurate trey! I've had alot of trouble getting ahold of anyone with furitek so my micro komodos will be replaced with SMPs as they crap the bed. That'd be cool to get a video of the hardpark chassis. kinda frustrating they only offer cantilever with the chassis and idk if it helps or hurts before I grabbed one. Thanks!
Just trying to show off that cantilever suspension setup when your taking the body off. Hahah
@@justinpritchard6403 😉
In addition to not wanting to spend 50-100% of the initial cost of my mini on a brushless upgrade, the biggest obstacle is having to switch from my stock receiver/ESC to a receiver to pair with the new brushless ESC. I'd like to switch my mini over to my Spektrum radio, but don't know of any micro receivers for it. I know that most people don't care about interiors, but my build has a full interior and full-depth pickup bed. I don't see keeping that with any of the brushless setups.
I think it's doable with the right setup. My one WT Micro truck (small to begin with) has an interior with a MOFO RC brushless setup. I'm using a flysky gt5 remote with micro recievers. I understand about wanting to switch remotes, it took me months before I finally got one.
I've managed to include a fair bit of interior on a couple different builds using the Furitek Micro Komodo combo and a Turbo Racing receiver. If you play your cards right, you can fit it all under the hood.
Okay, the gullwing doors on the Mercedes is freaking awesome. Does the Injora have FOC?
@@CK4RC Thank you!!
I'm too stupid to answer that so I asked my buddy WT Micro. He says
"Yes it does, am32 architecture supports sine drive startup. It actually seems to work better than foc"
@@24Yepp thanks dude!
It may just be me but I feel like maybe the injora setup for sure needs a tune. The furitek was for sure smoother in my opinion and the injora was definitely cogging but didn't seem to be too bad.
@@d-rock4437 I think it looks worse after rewatching the video. In person it didnt seem bad but there was one little spot where it wanted to stutter (i think)
Great video you really nailed the pros and cons very informative gives people something to think about thank you for your video 🤘✌️
@@shawnrichardson118 Thank you for watching! 🤘🏻
THIS is the motor I'm dropping in my Mazz Cheat Code V3, and here you make this video!
Nice.
Also, IMO purple sucks ass, and Red is awesome!... so there's that.
Hey man, thanks for the comparison!
You can connect the injora ESC to your computer but you have to install some stuff to do that. Took me a couple tries but I got it working. You can decase both the ESC and the switch thingi to save some space and weight but be careful not to rip off the cables on the ESC. I might be wrong but I feel like the injora drains my battery pretty dam fast compared to my 2s furitek kit, but that might be because the furitek is a tiny tire light weight rig and the other one has brass wheels and the big black labels.. what do you think?
Also, Injora recommended tuning the ESC for the motor before running running it but not sure if it's necessary.
Found your channel about 2 weeks ago. Watched some videos and I really like your style. Good information but also somehow funny. Subscribed today.
@@DarconizerRC Thank you!!!
The gull doors tho🤌🏽👌🏽
Awesome stuff dude as always! What do you have setup for the rear suspension? That looks really cool.
Its a cantilever suspension chassis from hardpark RC
@@24Yepp thanks bro you mention in the video i watched again 👌🏽👌🏽
Alright man, you got to give some info on that teaser F600 in the beginning. Looks sick.
As far as the Fat Viper, any idea if you can getaway with a micro ESC? But they are definitely giving Furitek a run for the money. Maybe Furiteks prices will come down some.
@@kevinl1791 I've already said too much...
I think it will work fine with any other micro brushless ESC, just wanted to try the full setup
@@24Yepp typical. Can’t no one tell you anything without you telling the world. lol.
@@kevinl1791 😁
Pretty smart of them to bump up to 5 Mod if you ask me
If anything this will force the others to adjust their prices. The Injora ESC should be tunable with an external tuner, and laptop. This is not as easy as the Furitek stuff and I have not seen the Injora dashboard yet to compare it to the RockWolf software dashboard that runs on the same firmware as the Injora ESC. My rig with a RockWolf runs so much smoother and better with a 3s battery, I am wondering if the Injora setup would like more voltage as well, I did notice some low speed cogging a bit but it wasn't bad for box stock with no tuning. Sucks that it coms with that huge battery connector on it.
The injora website highly recommends 3s for these
I would like to see more of HardPark products reviewed.
So yes, definitely.
Cantilever suspension is cool.
The HP links... are they good?.. they have the clearance, does titanium stick?.. it's lighter and stronger, so that's good.. and it's titanium, so it just sounds cool.
😂😂😂
But yeah, video on it!
I love my hardpark rigs and the links slid great and the no rod ends helps q lot
@@brandonupchurch5015 i haven't tested it yet, but just put together a V3 with HP Gladiator length high clearance links, they move very freely and they seem quite strong.
The axles in hand are absolutely beautiful pieces of equipment, though again, haven't tested the rig yet and waiting on parts, they remind me of the Terminator robot, all metal built in a certain way, quite impressive.
Mine will be in by the 14th. These shipping times are killing me. My purple viper was a fluke though.
Any chance the Injora would fit in an AX24, for example the Axial XC-1?
Still teasing the Mini. I see how it is.
lol
That's clearly what he's interested in.
Yo Yep! Where’s the Toyota from I’ve been looking for somthin like it for a long time
Its a 3d printed body, I think they used to be on etsy/ebay
Any noticable difference in weight between the two? For future product comparisons you should throw both options on the scale before installing
Gotcha, good idea I will. There isn't a noticeable difference
Looks good for the price. How easy would it be to get rid of the switch on the esc and make a bridge over it? And maybe de case it too.
The switch also has little dip switches to set the bec voltage so probably not trivial to remove.
Another awesome video trey, wish it was easier to get furitek in the UK unbelievably quite but injura making it affordable which wins it for me lol.
I've heard a lot of people complaining about trying to get parts outside of the US, sucks :(
👍👍 awesome i’m here watching Saturday, August 3 7:22 PM just got done watching you out on that huge rock out in the woods, that is a great rock👍👍 well I’m off to watch
Did you not reprogram the mbl32 injora ESC? It says you need to download the AM32 and tell it what KV and poles of the 2204, because default was setup for the regular Viper 1621. Im surprised it worked as well as it did, AM32 certainly has tons of adjustments via PC
I just got the Big Viper so Ive been reading the instructions, havent installed any motors or programs on the PC yet but ive messed with open drone ESC firmware before, AM32 is open source for drones and cars
@@ruuster83 I didn't even know that was a thing.. I just ripped it open and tossed in the truck
I wonder if that was the cause of the cogging the injora motor seemed to have in this video.
Awesome video 💪🤩🧟♂️
I ended up shortening all the wires on mine. They need a simpler power button like furitek uses.
We needs a video of the chassis i was thinking of doing this with 3d printed parts
Thanks for the review glad you didn’t wait I’m just about to order a Injora so I’m trying to get as much info as I can so it was very helpful to me. I thought maybe it was a Bigfoot you heard or Dogman.😂
🤣
I know this is about those motors but all I can do is watch that cantilever rear suspension work, so yeah I'm going to say I would like a video on that chassis.
Idk.. I think the Purple Viper is better than the Fat Viper tho. Same super slow crawl with more wheel speed when needed.
I hope they make some more, sold out.
Yeah I had good luck with the purple viper too, I'll use them both for sure
its kinda strange, everyone has a great review of the 1621 Viper BUT Injora left a YT comment saying they took it off the market til they develop a better 1621 with better slow speed control. Its not sold out, a V2 is coming
@@ruuster83 🤨
Yes please Trey do a video on that HardPark chassis
I thought that little purple motor their new one would have more wheel speed than what it does but maybe if I'm able to switch it to a mod 5 spur an opinion it can pick up the wheel speed it is really smooth but it just ain't enough will speed for me I like to go to slow crawl and jump up something if I have to it is nice and little though
That injora should have been called the Cicada with all that noise it makes.
Going to try the Venom with a new Redcat build this week.
Sounds like the transmission making the noise.
May have just been the video or the trans, in person its really quiet. Same with the furitek, they were both really quiet
I am glad ya did this vid it is a help. Thanks so much 24YEP
What's up with that hat?? ; )
You can definitely hear it loading up
I would probably just go with the purple motor is a lot cheaper, appreciate the video. I’ll catch you on the next one and tell them peace and chicken grease😁😁👍👍👋👋😎
Hey little froggy you’re famous. You’re on UA-cam. Ribbit rabbit. 😁
can u plug the injora motor into the furitek esc?
They are all sold!
Agreed, pretty darn close to being the same
I am finding the Injora esc w/viper kit and the furitek 2s brushless starter kit to be pretty much a dead even wash. However I know the lizard pro will work great with my mofo motors and I have not yet tried any mofo brushless motors with the injora MBL32.
Interesting.
Would the Injora ESC work on the Furitek motor?.
I think they are all interchangeable without issue, I'll try it to be sure though
@@24Yepp
Cheers mate 👍🏻
Injora is killing it! Just wish the deliveries didn't take so long!....first world problems
It's going to get worse with the long shoremans strike.
No Monster? Sipping on a Pipeline Punch. 👍
Can you connect the injora motor with furitek esc? Then you could tune it with the furitek app
You can use the injora on the furitek. (And vice versa) but you don’t “tune the motor”. You tune the esc. So, hooking up the Injora motor to the furitek esc would not allow to “tune the motor” as there is no such thing.
Injora motor looked like it would stutter. Komodo looked way smooth.
@@mjspeedrunrc6220 Video seems to make it look a bit worse than it was. It has a slight stutter at a certain speed but it wasnt noticable when using it
Are you from/ in Pennsylvania? I grew up there, on the east side.. Bucks County ;)
Yup! South central area
Where can I get that Mercedes? I found your channel because of it lol
@@Tiltymilk haha, I got mine on amazon. Its a "playmobil" brand toy
Is this the 2000kv or 2400kv fat viper?
Its the 2400
I just plugged in my brand Furitek szk and the esc smoked. Customer service has been terrible. They want me to take a video of it..then send it in for testing before they refund
Esc let you down dude. Needs to be reprogrammed for better transition from slow to regular speed. The fat viper was choking a little. Do prefer the smaller diameter motors for lower center of gravity 👍🤠👍
Bigfoot has been spotted in the woods of PA!!! Yep and he had an scx24!!
🤣
Yeah I saw the suspension and couldn’t listen to anything else!!!
It seems the Injora produces more noise than the Furitek. Video's effect ?
Oh ! A frog. It makes me hungry. Goodbye from France.😇
Possibly the video, in person they sound about the same and are both quiet
Where you at bro cuz we have a lot of frogs like that around my house where are you from I mean I just sent you a friend request on Facebook also a lot of guys are into scale which I'm kind of the opposite I'm into more performance it's good to see your stuff I really like it then
I thought it was the same exact motor
The fat viper is sweet😂
Just picked up the gladiator and that stock motor is a gutless turd!!
I thought I heard something too..
Hear me out injora has too much wires for the brushless
4th like
WINNER
i heard a difference lol
In person it wasn't noticeable, the bodies make them echo a bit differently and for whatever reason the camera distorts the sound a bit
I always hit furitek up on Facebook Messenger
Furitek esc's haven't let me down yet, knock on wood 🪵
@@DoubleADay must be nice!!