Console Wars - Super Turrican vs Mega Turrican - SNES vs SEGA

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  • Опубліковано 16 лип 2020
  • In this episode the rivals take on Super Turrican and Mega Turrican. Both were based on the same property, but there were many differences. Which one was better? Super Turrican for Super Nintendo or Mega Turrican for Sega Genesis? Find out in this episode of Console Wars!
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  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +355

    This episode was a lot of fun to make. Hope you guys enjoyed it!

    • @Liar587
      @Liar587 4 роки тому +6

      Thx, I've waited for this episode from the begging of the channel but I will watch it tomorrow cuz the premiere will be at 3 am :/

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 4 роки тому +3

      1:36 looked like something out of The Exorcist.
      But yeah, a great episode.

    • @LuisMendez-up5te
      @LuisMendez-up5te 4 роки тому +4

      Fantastic review! You guys did your homework & it shows.

    • @ChileanSpartanUSA
      @ChileanSpartanUSA 4 роки тому

      Thanks!

    • @JJB11
      @JJB11 4 роки тому +1

      I think Batman Forever is next.

  • @ym2612girl
    @ym2612girl 3 роки тому +79

    The Genesis music is some of the best I've heard on the system.

  • @storageanddisposal
    @storageanddisposal 4 роки тому +242

    This has one of the best uses of that Genesis synth sound. Amazing sound track.

    • @ChileanSpartanUSA
      @ChileanSpartanUSA 4 роки тому +24

      I agree. Sounds awesome in the genesis.

    • @sguinn91
      @sguinn91 3 роки тому +7

      Agreed. Best sampled drums I've heard out of the Sega Genesis and the FM synthesis sounds really nice and clear without being too twangy.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому +4

      It does have some amazing tracks. The underwater boss theme, the post apocalyptic looking world, and that amazing drum heavy track.

    • @CaptainGinyu
      @CaptainGinyu 3 роки тому

      one of my all time favorite osts

    • @ym2612girl
      @ym2612girl 3 роки тому +1

      I can back you on this!

  • @MyRetroLife
    @MyRetroLife 4 роки тому +24

    Mega Turrican is one of my favorite games of all time. Rented the SNES version but owned the Genesis ver as a kid. So happy to see it victorious

  • @camaristico
    @camaristico 4 роки тому +72

    That bit that you did with the Data East voice clip was genius. It shows how much you've progressed writing jokes and dialogs. Awesome job!!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +14

      Yeah, a surprisingly cleaver joke. Don't have too many of those.

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke2759 4 роки тому +69

    "Personally, i think the air humping really captures your rage" Dude that's the funniest thing ever!

    • @gregoryjohnson3487
      @gregoryjohnson3487 4 роки тому +4

      True

    • @JMFSpike
      @JMFSpike 4 роки тому +2

      Next time you feel really down and need some cheering up, try some air humping with your friends. I hear it has a 99% success rate!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +17

      Inspired by one of my friends who used to do that. lol

    • @jamesburke2759
      @jamesburke2759 3 роки тому

      @@ConsoleWars haha yeah i think we all get to that stage when you get 99% through something and you fall or something stupid kills you.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому +3

      When Dan turns to look at him in that slow motion infested with rage look was also pretty hilarious.

  • @bashcrash9148
    @bashcrash9148 4 роки тому +70

    I still freakin’ love that sweet sweet Sega sound.

  • @jwill7998
    @jwill7998 4 роки тому +131

    You guys need a Turbografx fan that you tell to leave.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +47

      I like that!

    • @HWJASURY
      @HWJASURY 4 роки тому +7

      Too bad you already did Doom. You could have done the same with a Jaguar fan and had the future guy take that instead.

    • @Cory_
      @Cory_ 4 роки тому +8

      But the TG-16 version of Street Fighter 2 is the best home port.

    • @jwill7998
      @jwill7998 4 роки тому +2

      @@ConsoleWars
      Bomberman maybe?

    • @yoman8027
      @yoman8027 4 роки тому +9

      Just imagine:
      "I'm Nintendo"
      "And I'm Sega"
      And suddenly, a third guy appears from behind the couch
      "And I'm Turbo"
      Both Pat and Dan gaze at him in surprise, look again towards the camera, visibly confused and then, after a couple of seconds all three shout:
      "THIS IS CONSOLE WARS!"

  • @L0L247
    @L0L247 4 роки тому +44

    Keep making these guys. This is one of my fave UA-cam shows.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +14

      You keep coming back, we'll keep making them.

  • @claytonbeeney
    @claytonbeeney 4 роки тому +27

    Is it just me or do these episodes get better every time?

  • @jtomally9681
    @jtomally9681 4 роки тому +42

    Overall, Sega nailed it with this one.

  • @M3troid.
    @M3troid. 4 роки тому +37

    Dan should have said "get over here" to grab the beer.

    • @hteekay
      @hteekay 4 роки тому

      It turned out to be "coming over there" in the end tho

  • @dad7275
    @dad7275 3 роки тому +16

    It was really impressive how great the music sounded on the Genesis. Just wow.

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 3 роки тому +3

      it sounds even better without that strange compression effect on it.

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul 4 роки тому +20

    "You need to be careful though, because you can easily run out of time."
    One of my biggest gripes about arcade style games; Why the hell do home games have level timers? "Here' s a big level with lot of secrets, ripe for exploring, but we're not going to allow to spend much time doing that."
    The level timer is the reason that I never bothered to put in the effort to try and beat the first or second Turrican games without cheating. "Well, you got to the exit, but you took one second too long, so you lose a life."
    Level timers are bullshit.

    • @obsoleteworlds
      @obsoleteworlds 3 роки тому +5

      a lot of these things are archaic throwbacks to cheap coin-guzzling arcade tactics. It took until way past the 90's for developers to realise that there was literally no advantage to having these in home games.

    • @Urmrgay955
      @Urmrgay955 3 роки тому

      The exact same thing happens in Sonic games, the levels are huge and i kinda understand why there is a time limit cuz, you know, gotta go fast, but is till annoying.

    • @lurkerrekrul
      @lurkerrekrul 3 роки тому +2

      @@Urmrgay955 It's like racing games with checkpoint timers. The game keeps track of what position I'm in, so why not let me finish the race? Or at least keep racing until X number of cars cross the finish line and I lose.
      On an arcade machine, a timer sort of makes sense because they don't want someone taking an hour to play the game, but on home games, timers are pointless. They only serve to artificially increase the difficulty.
      Sometimes I imagine being able to follow the developers around and impose arbitrary time limits on everything they do. "You have 60 seconds to use the bathroom. You have 7 seconds to go up these stairs. You have 3 seconds to dial that phone number. You have 3 minutes to eat lunch."

    • @iwanttocomplain
      @iwanttocomplain 14 днів тому

      A timer is a really good way to force you to improve at the controls of the game.

  • @Ac0ustics0ul
    @Ac0ustics0ul 4 роки тому +33

    The Sega box art is badass af, let's be real

    • @auralunaprettycure
      @auralunaprettycure 3 роки тому +3

      It’s so beautiful, just as amazing as the soundtrack. Also speaking of the soundtrack, 5-1 is one of the most world shattering songs I’ve ever heard

    • @shenglongisback4688
      @shenglongisback4688 15 днів тому

      I wanted the sprite too look like that

  • @ravagingwolverine
    @ravagingwolverine 4 роки тому +26

    That was fun. Nice to see the clean sweep. I wasn't sure about presentation, but I like the conclusions you reached here. I think Mega Turrican is quite a bit better than Super Turrican. I enjoyed it much more when I played them. It's one game where the increased resolution on the Genesis felt so much better in how it affected the game's design. Not that Super Turrican is bad. It may even be more appealing to those who grew up with the earlier Turrican games. But Mega Turrican is way more my style. Plus it has some actual rotation effects, which must be magic. And I love that plasma rope. Anyway, fun video to watch.

  • @NashTheBlade
    @NashTheBlade 4 роки тому +13

    Next episode...Is gonna be one of MY donations...It's gonna be Batman Forever....Oh god...This is DEFINITELY gonna be a "Which one is worse" episode...I mean my god, the control layout is just frigging MUTILATED in those games...A fighting game control scheme in a 2.5D platformer...That doesn't sound like it would work...AT ALL...It also made me wonder why Midway/Netherrealm would think it would work for their Sub-Zero games?

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому

      Thank you again sir! You continue to give us fuel.

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 3 роки тому

      You do us all a great favor. Keep the games flowing!

  • @chrisdakers3688
    @chrisdakers3688 4 роки тому +21

    Got 'Gamer Rage' stuck in my head now!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +6

      As you should!

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 4 роки тому +8

      That sounds like something that could be fixed;
      If only you had some scented oil sticks.
      *Super Sticks©*

    • @DanielAyy
      @DanielAyy 4 роки тому +2

      Dan is darn good at writing music.

  • @DenOndeBoss
    @DenOndeBoss 4 роки тому +47

    As a huge Turrican fan, I'm looking forward to this! Turrican II for Amiga, has one of the best game soundtracks ever.

    • @AMIGABLUEBIRD
      @AMIGABLUEBIRD 4 роки тому

      All Console Versions are Linear as Hell, no Fun to Play ...

    • @tonk82
      @tonk82 4 роки тому +4

      @@AMIGABLUEBIRD The best of the console versions is Mega Turrican. Yeah, its more linear, but its a solid game. It was later ported to the amiga as Turrican 3. The NES super turrican is decent too, it was made by the original creator and has levels like que first 2 games.

    • @sloppynyuszi
      @sloppynyuszi 4 роки тому

      Static Substance depends. From the reviews I’ve seen on UA-cam the games look that smidgen worse, and you have to push up on the joystick to jump, right?

    • @FromWitchSide
      @FromWitchSide 3 роки тому +2

      @@sloppynyuszi
      Well, they look different, because they are earlier games, however I would say that Turrican 2 visual quality is good enough that it becomes more about crisp Turrican 2 style vs rich Mega Turrican style choice than quality itself. Many Amiga games in general often have 2 issues when compared to console games - wonky controls or animation, but Turrican is actually ok here. Jumping with joystick up is perfectly fine, it depends more on a game's implementation and gameplay design if that input method is ok or not, and in case of Turrican it works quite well. In general jump button is more accurate while joystick up is quicker. However there is a different issue with Turricans on Amiga and that is how those 2 games handle collisions. Turrican 1 and 2 use home computer style of not having any visual cues of taking damage, you walk into enemy and you simply hear buzzing sound while your health bar decreases. Its a design that's been in use since earliest 8bit home computer games and probably has a lot to do with how "homegrown" developers were or hardware limitations. By all means this is inferior way of handling collisions, something no one liked even when they were used to it. To this day I think it is the only thing holding down Turrican II from becoming the ultimate shooting platformer. Yes it is just that good and big open levels to explore are big part of it. Mega Turrican is very good, it has some advantages, someone may even like it more, but in the end it is a different game that has what people see as "Turrican parts" toned down to allow for more "arcade" style. This actually makes comparison hard so I always say "just play both".

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 3 роки тому

      @@sloppynyuszi You just can't play Turrican 1 maps with a button to jump, you will fail all the time. Of course you need a proper joystick instead of a d-pad.

  • @DGFTardin
    @DGFTardin 4 роки тому +20

    Based on your Facebook post, I thought this was supposed to be a close call, but Genesis just dominated!
    Great episode as usual!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +6

      Glad we kept you guessing til the end.

  • @MANOFBLADE
    @MANOFBLADE 4 роки тому +17

    I have never heard of this game but I would like to that it's a true hidden gem. The Sega's one is much better, however, the SNES version isn't bad either.

    • @zero-0159
      @zero-0159 3 роки тому +3

      I would say Snes OST sounds better (like the boss theme and stage 1-3) and some sfx I liked (The laser that the jumping robot shoots) but yeah Sega nailed in many aspects of gameplay, more levels and stuff.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Рік тому

      @@zero-0159 You're just saying that because you have nostalgia for the SNES sound. Mega Turrican has a much better sounding OST.

  • @TheSocialGamer
    @TheSocialGamer 4 роки тому +36

    The Genesis soundtrack sounded much more rockin to me, and the SNES sounded muffled.

    • @123doomdoom
      @123doomdoom 4 роки тому +10

      Agreed !

    • @danwarb1
      @danwarb1 4 роки тому +6

      Yes. The clean electronic sound has aged much better.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому +3

      I noticed that. Sometimes the SNES version sounded kinda "light" or "fuzzy" where as the Sega sounds were pretty unorthodox they were super clear and we'll balanced. A perfect example is compare the soundtrack of earthworm jim on Sega and Snes. The Snes version sounds very blah and less pronounced than the Segas soundtrack.

    • @gaba665
      @gaba665 3 роки тому +1

      But snes sounding muffled is no surprise, it was its own trade mark lol.. MD version sounds excellent!..

    • @reginaldeberhart8521
      @reginaldeberhart8521 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed

  • @Siosal01
    @Siosal01 4 роки тому +4

    Man, I grew up in this era so this is my nostalgia fix. Love you guys.

  • @Alex_DC413
    @Alex_DC413 4 роки тому +7

    I may need to check out the Genesis version now. I remember having some of those frustrations with the SNES version - especially the jumping

  • @ryzmaker11
    @ryzmaker11 4 роки тому +51

    Actually this game shows how "goofy" and compromised Mode 7 can be. The effects in Super Turrican mostly look worse than the ones in Mega Turrican and when Mode 7 occurs, backgrounds are reduced to minimal because Mode 7 can't apply to sprites but only to background!

    • @GodzillasaurusJr
      @GodzillasaurusJr 4 роки тому +10

      Yeah, the graphics aren't even close - should be a clear and decisive win for SEGA.

    • @PlumbDrumb
      @PlumbDrumb 4 роки тому +5

      They even managed to get some transparency effects in there. The rotation and scaling effects are quite smooth too, in Mega Turrican.
      I think the developers were quite familiar with Sega's hardware, or had experience with similar architecture (Amiga)

    • @turrican3839
      @turrican3839 4 роки тому +4

      That's a limitation for mode 7 as it can only do so with background elements, while the Genesis version used software rotation, not hardware rotation, the ones in mega look very pixelated when doing so, and really it's only applied to very minor things other than the title screen, even then with mode 7 bosses you could implement foreground elements to look like background elements, after all Super was rushed.

    • @reginaldeberhart8521
      @reginaldeberhart8521 4 роки тому +5

      I agree the mode 7 actually takes away from the overall experience.

    • @turrican3839
      @turrican3839 4 роки тому +2

      How, literally it's only applied to the title screen, and 2 bosses and they look fine although it's missing backgrounds but it can be covered up.

  • @AhmedGhazwan
    @AhmedGhazwan 3 роки тому +3

    Just wanted to say that I'm really glad I discovered this series. Fun, cheesy and genuine. Keep up the great work!

  • @EnygmaRecords
    @EnygmaRecords 3 місяці тому

    I love how this was written - the bit at the end ("That really is convenient") was particularly great!

  • @EonFigure
    @EonFigure 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for introducing me to this game, i had never heard of it as a kid. I would of loved to have played it. And yes, those sega tunes are pretty amazing!
    It has a [sonic2] and [streets of rage 2] quality to it.

  • @LuisMendez-up5te
    @LuisMendez-up5te 4 роки тому +32

    I'm predicting Sega wins this. Graphics, sounds/music & presentation.

    • @Rodzilla97
      @Rodzilla97 4 роки тому +11

      for sure genesis will win. i think they should have went with super turrican 2 vs mega turrican. much closer fight there

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому +2

      @@Rodzilla97 Super Turrican would have won graphics forsure. I think they picked the right match up though Mega Turrican and Super Turrican were in development around the same time and share some of the same assets.

    • @Rodzilla97
      @Rodzilla97 4 роки тому +2

      @@supersexysega i dunno, i don't think it was a fair fight. 15 bosses vs 4. super turrican 2 has 14 bosses i think and is the best turrican game on the snes, it would have made for a much closer battle. this one was a pointless blowout

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому

      @@Rodzilla97 I agree Super Turrican 2 is awesome. If we are going for a closer match up it definitely made more sense.

    • @WeskerSega
      @WeskerSega 3 роки тому

      @@Rodzilla97 See my answer to "elHorstio" about comparing Super Turrican 2 with Mega Turrican. Pretty nonsensical to do that when the aking games which were developed simultaneously are definitely Mega Turrican and Super Turrican.

  • @thevoivod
    @thevoivod 4 роки тому +10

    Loved Super Turrican *2* back when I was younger; I was obsessed with it as I grew up with the Turrican series on my Commodore 64 (and on a friend's Amiga. Turrican 2 for the Amiga is probably the best of the lot).

    • @judgegroovyman
      @judgegroovyman 4 роки тому +3

      Awesome! Were you able to beat it back in the day?

    • @thevoivod
      @thevoivod 4 роки тому

      @@judgegroovyman I could beat Turrican on the C64, but not Turrican 2 without cheating! I could beat Super Turrican 2 as I played it to DEATH. The soundtrack rocked on that (another Chris Huelsbeck masterpiece).
      I remember back that ST2 got 'okay' reviews, but I loved it. So many cool, varied stages and graphics.

    • @rootykazooty351
      @rootykazooty351 3 роки тому

      @@thevoivod I also love Super Turrican 2 on the SNES. I got addicted to the series with Turrican II on the C64. For anyone who doesn't know, the Genesis/Mega Drive game Universal Soldier is really Turrican II but with the flying part removed and replaced by original on foot part, and they modified the character sprite. The game was developed as Turrican II then got a very late change to cash in on the movie. Great game.

  • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
    @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому +7

    This episode was MEGA awesome! Always loved this game on Sega. The SNES one is cool though the Sega has such a unique soundtrack with so many more detailed graphics and levels. The Sega version is also the smoothest out of the 3..... Yea I said 3 I haven't forgetten about the Amiga version. Great episode and looking forward to more!

  • @DarkReturns1
    @DarkReturns1 4 роки тому +11

    Funniest intro by far! The gaming rage had me dying lol 😂

  • @saratov99
    @saratov99 4 роки тому +3

    Great job as usual! Like a warm blanket from childhood!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +1

      That's the best review for our channel!

  • @lewislast1603
    @lewislast1603 4 роки тому +8

    Had to do some laundry late night and this premieres. Thank you guys

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +4

      Glad we could keep you entertained.

    • @baalfgames5318
      @baalfgames5318 4 роки тому

      I watched this when doing laundry, too. XD

  • @eyehazcooki5032
    @eyehazcooki5032 4 роки тому +1

    So glad you guys did this one, as I've never heard of the series before but WOW is that soundtrack amazing on both systems. Going to have to give the series a try.
    Also, the air humping was way funnier than it should have been, great opening sketch guys!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +1

      But when is air humping not funny?

  • @Balefactor
    @Balefactor 4 роки тому +2

    Glad to see you making these again. The new intro also sounds great :)

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks. The intro was fan Mande by RGM_Burai. You can find a link to more of his songs in the video description.

  • @datboitmic
    @datboitmic 4 роки тому +3

    This is gonna be fun to binge watch in 5 years when you guys finish all the games.

  • @richt961
    @richt961 4 роки тому +3

    Great video! "Presented by Data East" was my favorite part.

  • @archimagirussancti7956
    @archimagirussancti7956 4 роки тому +2

    Man I love y'all's show. With all the crazy stuff going on I'm gonna take a break from the news and binge watch CW all the way back tonight haha

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +2

      Good luck! You have my support.

  • @bigdumbjosh
    @bigdumbjosh 4 роки тому +1

    Ecstatic to see a new video from you guys! Hope you are all doing well much love.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +2

      We are doing Super! Or should I say Mega? One of those.

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan 4 роки тому +7

    Let's hope his uncle Danos never snapped.

  • @ronsilk6212
    @ronsilk6212 2 роки тому +5

    The genesis version came out a year after the snes ver.
    It was refined and tuned to be a better playing experience.
    Plus it has a lot of extra content in it.

    • @alubaldini
      @alubaldini 7 місяців тому

      Bye the way mega turrican is turrican 3 ported yo sega génesis from amiga

    • @alubaldini
      @alubaldini 7 місяців тому

      1 or two but they don’t mentioned that mega turrican is turrican 3 from amiga ported to sega génesis

  • @omiglio
    @omiglio 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video, thanks again guys!

  • @keithfta789
    @keithfta789 4 роки тому +1

    Happy to see a new episode! Keep ‘em coming! Also, how about Blaster Master 1 vs 2? One of the few cases 8-bit might beat 16-bit!

  • @whatifguy9675
    @whatifguy9675 Рік тому +4

    Mega Turri-can what Super Turri-can't.

  • @GMMXX80
    @GMMXX80 4 роки тому +3

    Great video. I was worried the "clarity" on Sound was going to give SNES the win, but when that gritty punchy sound is used right, it can destroy Sony's sound chip and this does. The fart sound, true, is annoying though, but with a soundtrack that cool sounding best sound is on SEGA. Good video guys. Happy to see you're still getting them out there.

  • @ShootoFighter79
    @ShootoFighter79 3 роки тому +1

    Great episode! I’ve loved the Turrican series since playing it on the Commodore Amiga. You guys mentioned that Super Turrican felt incomplete; Well, it actually is in some way. At the time of release, Factor 5 didn’t have the money to spend on a bigger rom cart. So they needed to fit the game on a 4Mbit cart only. Thus several omissions were made to fit the game such as levels, certain details and sounds. Interestingly, there is a directors cut version that was available on the Analogue Super Nt (FPGA Super Nintendo console) that adds all the missing elements. Mega Turrican was actually first being developed for the Amiga as Turrican 3. However, the Amiga was beginning to decline in sales and was quickly redesigned for the Genesis/Mega Drive and released there. Shortly after that, they then took the Sega version and ported it back to the Amiga. So Turrican 3 on the Amiga is a slightly cut back version of the Sega game.

  • @sguinn91
    @sguinn91 4 роки тому

    You guys had a blast making this episode? Well, I had a blast watching this episode! Well done, guys! Stay safe!

  • @dougiehits1938
    @dougiehits1938 4 роки тому +15

    Probably one of the best Games on the Sega Genesis 🙌

    • @thehumbleone1983
      @thehumbleone1983 3 роки тому +3

      Definitely 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 3 роки тому

      Why did you type games with a capital G...?

    • @dougiehits1938
      @dougiehits1938 3 роки тому +1

      @@RWL2012 tried to make an impact or a typo 🧐

  • @oscarzxn4067
    @oscarzxn4067 4 роки тому +27

    Batman Forever will be an interesting one because while I think it looks and sounds way worse on the Genesis, I have heard it plays much worse on the SNES, so could be the first complete turnabout of the show.

    • @zanegandini5350
      @zanegandini5350 4 роки тому +16

      It's probably going to be a battle to see which one is worse, that's usually what they do with shitty games. And man, are they both shit.

    • @oscarzxn4067
      @oscarzxn4067 4 роки тому +1

      @@zanegandini5350 Yeah, I was thinking the same.

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому +4

      Pretty much sums it up. The SNES version will end up as the worst one for the loading times everytime you go into a different room which happens alot and for the gameplay being worse then the Genesis version.

    • @travisbrown6598
      @travisbrown6598 4 роки тому +1

      AVGN did talk about Batman Forever on SNES and it was horrible due to the Mortal Kombat combo controls and wish I kept mine. Sega Genesis version is really horrible if you have a three button controller

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому +3

      @@travisbrown6598 If anyone is playing a Genesis in 2020 without access to a 6-Button controller. They have far worse concerns in their life.

  • @bravo1oh1
    @bravo1oh1 4 роки тому +2

    Great editing. Very entertaining.

  • @amerikanish07
    @amerikanish07 3 роки тому

    Damn, what a great episode guys!

  • @elHorstio
    @elHorstio 4 роки тому +5

    Nice Episode as always, but Super Turrican 2 would be the better competitor for Mega Turrican. In an interview back then the devs where talking of the troubles they had with the SNES Hardware. So they made Super Turrican a simple yet solid platformer that would fit a 4 MB cartridge. With Super Turrican 2 you have all your effects stuff and gameplay variety which is missing in Super Turrican.

    • @WeskerSega
      @WeskerSega 4 роки тому +3

      No way. Mega Turrican and Super Turrican are the akin games and in fact, both of them were developed at the same time. Super Turrican 2 was developed much later than either of these two. The problem is, Mega Drive doesn't have an akin game to Super Turrican 2 (ie, a Mega Turrican 2) unfortunately. I guess this was because of all of the publishing problems Factor 5 always had with their Mega Drive games, including Mega Turrican which was delayed one year of release because Konami was going to release and then it pulled it off. Data East had to publish it in the end. Heck, even the Amiga conversion of Mega Turrican (ie, Turrican 3) came first because of this fact. And Factor 5 also couldn't release their Mega Drive version of Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures because of publishing issues with US Gold and it's still unreleased up to this day (though it appears that it may receive and after-market release sometime in the future). Yeah, I think the sum of all this is the reason why there never was a Mega Turrican 2 on the Mega Drive to compete with Super Turrican 2.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 роки тому

      Mega Turrican is better to me.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Рік тому +2

      But the soundtrack absolutely sucks for Super Turrican 2.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 10 місяців тому

      Super Turrican 2 looks really cool, but it always felt a little off to me.

  • @WhitePointerGaming
    @WhitePointerGaming 4 роки тому +8

    Probably worth mentioning that the SNES version featured surround sound, one of the earliest console games to do so (SNES Jurassic Park came first). Mega Drive still had the better soundtrack though.

    • @gaba665
      @gaba665 3 роки тому +2

      What point does it make if almost EVERY tv set at the time was mostly stereo?.. it would be a nice detail if surround sound were a thing like ever... it never reched a place on popular consumer space till dvd came out and maybe bluray.. but even today the standard is stereo still.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 3 роки тому +2

      Gabriel Martinez They weren’t even stereo, the vast majority of them were mono at the time.

    • @gaba665
      @gaba665 3 роки тому

      @@justanotheryoutubechannel Yeah, totally bro.. that is 100% true.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 3 роки тому +1

      Gabriel Martinez I’m sorry if I’m misunderstanding but it really is true, most TVs only had 1 speaker. A lot of people had better audio setups with multiple speakers but usually the TV itself could only produce mono, hence why the Model 1 Mega Drive only supports mono output over its usual cables. *EDIT:* nvm I was given false info, I did some more research and by the early 1990’s a lot of TVs had stereo. Still though, a lot of people would’ve still had mono TVs. Surround was pretty overkill regardless of stereo or mono in the 90’s, but it’s cool that it supported it.

    • @gaba665
      @gaba665 3 роки тому +2

      @@justanotheryoutubechannel Megadrive had stereo output too. Do some research. From the front There's an output stereo jack. In model 1, and in model 2 you got it from the back. 🤷🏼‍♂️ yeah, in 90's people had mono and stereo tv sets. There's not a single 5.1 surround tv set I know of. Sorry.

  • @Kurukan
    @Kurukan 4 роки тому +1

    I usually just yell obscenities at things when I get angry, but I suppose air humping works too.
    Great video as always!

  • @pacbilly
    @pacbilly 4 роки тому +1

    The payoff of the Siri thing is my very favorite joke in the entirety of the Console Wars canon.

  • @diegog1853
    @diegog1853 4 роки тому +9

    Yeah a lot of times using mode seven could have big disadvantage compared to using regular sprites, since it acts on your background layer. Thats why you always see these flat colors and gradiants when you have mode 7 bosses. Kind of looks cheap and its always for some lame rotation or scaling. And since they are backround and not sprites, a lot of times they kind of interact weirdly with the characters, with vaeguely defined hit boxes. Mode 7 for anything else than bground i think has aged the worst in super nintendo games, impressive back then, but sega managed to do some impressive and more timeless bosses and gimmicks with clever use of sprites, like the multijointed bosses in things like gunstar heroes or castlevania bloodlines.

    • @turrican3839
      @turrican3839 4 роки тому

      Honestly the bosses in Mega Turrican aren't that great, and go down as easily as any other Turrican boss that isn't from T1 and ST2, rebound breaks the game's difficulty and makes the bosses feel like filler.

    • @diegog1853
      @diegog1853 4 роки тому +2

      @@turrican3839 I've personally only played mega turrican, and i enjoyed the bosses fine enough. Its true that they are on the easy side, but since you have to beat the game in one sitting and since there are so many of them i didn't mind. Still took me some tries to beat the game my first time. Overall I enjoyed them, they have cool designs with big detail sprites and they add variety constantly to the experience

  • @willeysingleton3057
    @willeysingleton3057 4 роки тому +7

    Wow this is actually the first time I've gone into a video campaigning for one side bit by the end of the video , wanted to slap my self and say What were you thinking.
    This was an excellent video and great example of me being totally wrong......
    Still though Sega's Shadow run is by far the more superior game and I think it deserves a re count.
    But on this one land slide proven Seeeega genisis is superior.

    • @rootykazooty351
      @rootykazooty351 3 роки тому +1

      Agree 100% they got Shadowrun wrong. Was very surprised they chose the SNES version - although it is very good.

  • @mangs856
    @mangs856 3 роки тому +1

    You have earned my like for the "air-humping captures your rage" comment. Well done. Carry on.

  • @jerricabenton842
    @jerricabenton842 3 роки тому +2

    i loved it when games were different on different consoles... it made it worth...you know... having both consoles...

  • @DavidCarlosOvalle
    @DavidCarlosOvalle 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome work as always, fellas :3
    (looks at the next episode hint)
    ...ohh boy. Good luck with that one, guys. That one is really bad on both. Though I’m curious to know which one’s worse soon

  • @donkeystyle3200
    @donkeystyle3200 Рік тому +4

    The SNES version is more like TurriCAN’T.

  • @sumerianliger
    @sumerianliger Рік тому

    "I think the air humping really captures your rage" LOL

  • @pauln5042
    @pauln5042 4 роки тому +1

    Great video guys!!!!!! So proud!!!!!!

  • @oioikanone
    @oioikanone 3 роки тому +4

    Nothing beats FM synthesis.

  • @davidneighbour
    @davidneighbour 4 роки тому +10

    Counting all the winners from all episodes of Console Wars so far...
    Sega has 37 wins and Nintendo has 36 wins! Very close.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +4

      Wow. Thanks for keeping count!

    • @drgribb
      @drgribb 4 роки тому +2

      I demand a recount! How is it so close??

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому +3

      Isn't crazy how 90% of the time the Super Nintendo had the better version of cross platform games? Must be one of those false narratives based on the 37-36 numbers.

    • @dangreen3186
      @dangreen3186 4 роки тому +2

      Doing God’s work good sir!

    • @davidneighbour
      @davidneighbour 4 роки тому +3

      Sega wins:
      Aladdin
      Mortal Kombat
      Castlevania Bloodlines
      Contra Hard Corps
      Jurassic Park
      Streets Of Rage
      Ren & Stimpy: Stimpy’s Invention
      Earthworm Jim
      Mighty Morphin Power Rangers The Movie
      Robocop Vs Terminator
      Streets Of Rage 2
      Streets Of Rage 3
      Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine
      Toy Story
      Scooby Doo
      Home Alone
      WWF Wrestlemania The Arcade Game
      Captain America & The Avengers
      Tiny Toons: Buster’s Hidden Treasure
      NBA Jam
      Mickey Mania
      Bram Stoker’s Dracula
      Revolution X
      Beauty & The Beast
      Taz-Mania
      Home Alone 2
      Cool Spot
      Boogerman
      Sparkster
      Joe & Mac
      Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
      The Simpsons: Bart’s Nightmare
      Paperboy 2
      Demolition Man
      The Lost Vikings
      Doom
      Mega Turrican
      Nintendo Wins:
      Turtles In Time
      X-Men Mutant Apocalypse
      Street Fighter 2 Turbo: Hyper Fighting
      Animaniacs
      Alien 3
      Mickey Mouse Magical Quest
      Final Fantasy 2
      Beavis & Butthead
      The Adventures Of Batman & Robin
      Zombies Ate My Neighbours
      Bubsy
      Super Ghouls N’ Ghosts
      Tom & Jerry
      Shadowrun
      Lion King
      Mario Paint
      Sunset Riders
      Mortal Kombat 2
      Run Saber
      Samurai Shodown
      Batman Returns
      Primal Rage
      Power Rangers: Fighting Edition
      Wayne’s World
      Maximum Carnage
      Super Smash TV
      Battletoads
      Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
      Justice League Task Force
      Prince Of Persia
      Ninja Gaiden
      Chester Cheetah
      Earthworm Jim 2
      Daze Before Christmas
      Super Scope
      TMNT Tournament Fighters
      Draws:
      Ys lll: Wanderers From Ys
      Battletoads & Double Dragon

  • @ssjup81
    @ssjup81 3 роки тому

    This was great, as always! Love the Breakfast Club references. lol

  • @LegatoSkyheart
    @LegatoSkyheart 4 роки тому +1

    You guys reminded me that I own both of these games on the Wii Virtual Console. And yeah the differences were so jarring to me I thought they were two completely separate games with no relation to the plot.

  • @AVPboy6754
    @AVPboy6754 4 роки тому +21

    As a *Super Nintendo fan,* i've got to admit, this episode was one sided, but in a fair and square way, i totally agreed with Dan.

    • @mattkennedy6115
      @mattkennedy6115 4 роки тому +4

      As a Sega fan I’m biased but in most of these reviews I’m biting my nails and rooting for the Sega Genesis whilst also acknowledging the Super Nintendos superior graphics, controller and sound. I grew up with both of these consoles and I love them both :P

    • @turrican3839
      @turrican3839 4 роки тому

      This video was too 1 sided, how did Mega Turrican seriously win in *every* department, graphics should've been a tie, so is sound, gameplay to ST since it has better level design, weapons, and enemy placements, yet again nobody ever reads my reasons and proceed to only listen to Mega throbbers.

    • @quasimojo345
      @quasimojo345 4 роки тому +3

      At least you guys have Super Turrican 2.

    • @AVPboy6754
      @AVPboy6754 4 роки тому +2

      @@mattkennedy6115 Hey! That's actually pretty good, i am on the same channel as you, excepting having both consoles, i had to rely on emulation over the years.

    • @AVPboy6754
      @AVPboy6754 4 роки тому +2

      @@quasimojo345 That is also true, the second game has everything the *Mega Turrican* game had plus Super Nintendo's quality, so... Yeah.

  • @ReigningSemtex
    @ReigningSemtex 4 роки тому +21

    I think Turrican was the best.... on the Amiga! We doing this!?

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +6

      That's what I hear. I gotta check it out.

    • @Geth7777
      @Geth7777 4 роки тому +1

      @@ConsoleWars Dew It! Remember...... Shoot or Die!

    • @xxnoxx-xp5bl
      @xxnoxx-xp5bl 3 роки тому +1

      Totally. I used I envy my friends who had consoles while I had the Amiga. Then I saw how games like Turrican, Chaos Engine and Desert Strike compared across the systems and I never looked back.

    • @Cyril86
      @Cyril86 3 роки тому

      Yeah, it's not really even a contest.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому +1

      Sega mauls that version too. It's got some interesting elements too it still the Sega version is smoother and more refined in game play and like the SNES it's missing like half its backgrounds. Also the music sounds so choppy on the Amiga, this could also be because the Amiga version is kind of makeshift port of the Sega version.

  • @sxechaos
    @sxechaos Рік тому

    Solid video guys!

  • @musicaldude9429
    @musicaldude9429 4 роки тому +1

    Best version of the console wars theme and great back ground music

  • @soramirez5473
    @soramirez5473 4 роки тому +5

    Shinobi 3 vs Hagane..

    • @retrosoul8770
      @retrosoul8770 4 роки тому +1

      Both are in my Top 5 for both systems. That is hard as hell but I nod to Shinobi 3

    • @supersexysega
      @supersexysega 4 роки тому

      Shinobi 3 will win it's a perfect game. Hagane is a very good game and definitely took inspiration from Shinobi 3 and makes the best sense as a comparison video.

  • @Arkdstuff-tv9lf
    @Arkdstuff-tv9lf 4 роки тому +7

    Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends for next Console Wars episode SNES vs Genesis!

    • @codysmom2680
      @codysmom2680 4 роки тому +5

      Well someone's gonna have to donate those 2 games

    • @Arkdstuff-tv9lf
      @Arkdstuff-tv9lf 4 роки тому +1

      +Leopold Rosales I know. I was just suggesting the possibility.

    • @princeali8412
      @princeali8412 4 роки тому +2

      No it's Batman Forever

    • @Arkdstuff-tv9lf
      @Arkdstuff-tv9lf 4 роки тому

      +Julian Williams I wasn’t referring to the hint at the end of the video.

  • @iamLI3
    @iamLI3 3 роки тому

    i can't understand how this gaming channel has managed to capture the magic that made the onion funny and kept it going for....holy luna has it really been 6 years already??.....
    the commitment to adding something original to every video really help make this so good , leaving in that extra second of ban's rage clip where you can see him smile at the end is what got me too much this time X"D
    how come there's such a loud static sound in the room mic now though?...
    wow another genesis title that beats the snes in every category O: that soundtrack style does actually sound better on genesis
    so how long till i can order from mega sticks which im expecting will also come with a free dvd of your amazing promotional video :D ???....

  • @cheappyv5156
    @cheappyv5156 3 роки тому

    _really_ appreciate your attention to detail, Dan

  • @mayzilla1174
    @mayzilla1174 4 роки тому +3

    Looks like the Sega version literally destroyed the Snes version.....Great Video can't wait 4 more

  • @predaking2wings
    @predaking2wings 4 роки тому +5

    No wonder i had more fun playing the genesis version more stages and more bosses, and better weapons!!

  • @NESFriend
    @NESFriend 3 роки тому

    The songs you write for these are always so catchy. This is up there with Boogerman! We need a ConsoleWars vinyl!

  • @Saxdude26
    @Saxdude26 3 роки тому

    Damn that new intro theme freaking slaps! And that commercial skit was pure gold.

  • @MrZilla
    @MrZilla 4 роки тому +8

    You guys should do Thomas the Tank Engine.

  • @RetroGameNova
    @RetroGameNova 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome to see Sega absolutely destroy SNES on an awesome game. It’s to bad Mega Turrican costs a fortune now. Great video guys!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @RetroGameNova
      @RetroGameNova 4 роки тому

      Console Wars my pleasure dude!

    • @Tarquin23
      @Tarquin23 2 роки тому

      It’s been released again by Limited Games and is currently on sale!

  • @Mr_Wheez
    @Mr_Wheez 4 роки тому

    Awesome episode of Console Wars! Both versions are amazing and definitive must haves in addition to the original C64 and Amiga releases. Keep an eye out since this year marks the 30th anniversary of the series and we might get another entry or a special.🤞 Die Musik ist heute noch überragend und Chris Hülsbeck ist King!

  • @desiv1170
    @desiv1170 3 роки тому

    Love the Breakfast Club nod too. ;-) Great vid!!

  • @zsiles
    @zsiles 4 роки тому +4

    Mega Turrican

  • @drgribb
    @drgribb 4 роки тому +5

    Aww snap. Wasn't expecting to see a new episode today! As a musician, I know I can count on Dan to comment on the awesome music. Don't know about the snes version, but the Genesis version, and the series in general, just has amazing music. Excited to watch this when it drops!

    • @drgribb
      @drgribb 4 роки тому +2

      Oh wow, Genesis version trounced the SNES version. Knew Dan would show the music some love!
      Great episode guys. Always fun when the puppets show up too. :)

  • @chuckobscure
    @chuckobscure 4 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to it fellas!

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the donations!

  • @tawdryhepburn4686
    @tawdryhepburn4686 3 роки тому

    Too funny. I JUST discover this game’s existence and now I discover a new console wars based on the same title.

  • @G22865
    @G22865 4 роки тому +3

    It's gotta be the 1 game where Sega dominates in every aspect

  • @Mr_x_19922
    @Mr_x_19922 4 роки тому +3

    I played both but love the Genesis/Megadrive version more
    Look at that! (6:51) Sega version looks much better

  • @joshygoboom3470
    @joshygoboom3470 4 роки тому +1

    You guys never disappoint 😂 wish I had a delivery service for controllers when I was a kid

  • @TheMiuToo
    @TheMiuToo Рік тому +1

    8:11 I died laughing at the discourse of the ugly cutscenes, especially the large chin.

  • @NeoGeoNinja81
    @NeoGeoNinja81 4 роки тому +2

    I knew it'd be Mega Turrican. I was a SNES guy 'growing up' (nearly 40 now, ouch!) but it was games like this, Contra and Castlevania that made me turn around and notice the MD as an equal to the SNES and that they both possess stronger and weaker iterations of similar or the same games. As it happens, I'm actually now a full on MD > SNES guy nowadays and that didn't come easy. I still adore the SNES, but the MD has more of the sort of stuff I wanna play as of 2020 ❤️👍

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому +1

      Hey, we're both creeping up on 40 too. Nothing wrong with that.

    • @NeoGeoNinja81
      @NeoGeoNinja81 4 роки тому

      @@ConsoleWars
      I guess we're in it together, hey fellas? You know, I was just thinking... how does Mega Turrican stack up against Super Turrican: Directors Cut? 🤭 I'm just kidding, but never had the pleasure, personally. All the best guys 👍

    • @WeskerSega
      @WeskerSega 3 роки тому +2

      @@NeoGeoNinja81 The Director's Cut is a massive disappointment after so many years of Factor 5 hyping that. It's just a new section/sub-level in the snow area of levels. Mega Turrican is still much better than that.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Рік тому +1

      @@WeskerSega It was just another Nintendo fanboy coping mechanism.

    • @LarryLopez91
      @LarryLopez91 Рік тому

      @@Bubba__Sawyer
      What's there to "cope" about anymore? The console wars have been over for like 25 years now. Both systems can easily be emulated and we have the ability to pick and choose games that came out on both. No need to be loyal to the console you were stuck with during childhood.
      Want to play the better Turrican game? Download the Genesis version. Want to play the better version of Earthworm Jim 2? Download the SNES version. Want to play the better version of Mortal Kombat Or Sunset Riders? Well, just download the arcade versions lol.
      Sticking to one side is pointless and unnecessary.

  • @KannX
    @KannX 4 роки тому +3

    Yaaay new episode :) Damn, Genesis totally crushed SNES version!

  • @PhantomBoi-ru9ci
    @PhantomBoi-ru9ci 4 роки тому

    Nice video, as always... I wouldn't have guessed turrican, but I learned something today. Keep it up!

  • @horricule451
    @horricule451 3 роки тому +1

    I've never heard of these games before but they look amazing. Whoever composed these games soundtracks is a genius

    • @DeskoDev
      @DeskoDev 3 роки тому +2

      That'd be Chris Huelsbeck. He's a mad lad.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Рік тому

      @@DeskoDev Pity they couldn't get him back for Super Turrican 2 because the OST for that game absolutely sucks!

  • @Teh_Zig
    @Teh_Zig 4 роки тому +5

    Sorry lads, you're both wrong, Amiga Turrican has 'em beat.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 роки тому

      Amiga turrican is just a choppy version of Mega Turrican. Also it's soundtrack overall sounds kinda lame compared with particularly the Sega version.

  • @rael_gc
    @rael_gc 4 роки тому +10

    SNES colors usage and soundtracks on this game appears coming from a Disney game. Doesn't fit for the action of the game.

  • @ningsong591
    @ningsong591 4 роки тому +2

    Very good episode!

  • @Stormrider881
    @Stormrider881 4 роки тому +2

    Great episode as always. Also anything with a breakfast club reference is always a win in my book.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  4 роки тому

      That was a last minute addition. Glad you liked it!