Why Electric Cars Companies Are Lying To You
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The electric future is here.
At least, that's what most people say. Governments basically said, "it's my way or the highway" before announcing dates when gasoline cars will be banned (2035), carmakers must get on board to avoid extinction.
This means there's the potential to invest and win big... At the same time, nations are battling to get the precious minerals that Tesla, Ford, Nissan, and others need… something that has its own set of shady conditions, conflicts, and corruption. I wanted to discuss my thoughts and research on the topic.
So are EVs "cleaner"? What's really going on behind the electric race? And, ultimately, who's going to win?
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In our world, it's all about the money. Not saving the environment, not progressing the technology of the human race... It just all seems to be about how to exploit, scam & manipulate to make massive wealth. I don't mean that to sound too negative or distraught, it just seems to be the reality of the world we live in. Great video as always Max!
It’s a forced opportunity.
👏👏👏agree
It’s about saving the planet too.
And control
@@ryanb8736 limited/nonexistent freedom of choice .
I only buy used cars because they have an incredible value loss over the first years. I've already scratched hybrids off the list because of added complexity and cost of repairs, electric vehicles fall right out because of the battery life, the high cost of replacing the battery and the complete inability to repair things on your own because of lack of information and parts, Tesla is notorious for not allowing anyone to even try to repair anything on their cars, that's spitting in the face of the right to repair.
Buying used cars is a smart investment!
@@MaxMaher buying car is not an investment.
@@ab-js2gw Speak for yourself lol. If you’re smart about it, it absolutely is
@@609filmz7 thanks for your advice I've just changed my mind
@@ab-js2gw it certainly is if used to make money. Have you seen the appreciation the past few years? Teslas cost more used than new.
they turn off bank accounts, they can turn off your ev's.
Where's the lie though!
Social credit scores are coming, so be a good citizen, you wouldn’t want your Dear Leader labeling you an enemy of the state, but that would never happen in a western democracy, now could it…
Funny how crypto peoples fall right in line with all the sunshine & rainbow bs…. You’d think they’d be more aware of the controls and corruption behind all of this, nope…
If your assuming that because it’s electric than they could just turn it off considering most modern ice cars have lots of electrical components that need to work for it to properly function does it mean the same thing?
Engine controllers arent on the internet, bro. Someone would have to physically mess with wires/ connections they cant just shut it down remotely. Its more of a microcontroller just handling inputs and outputs with lots of math models inbetween
Maybe one day. But that shouldn't concern anyone. You don't have to own an EV or any type of motor vehicle for whomever to disrupt your life. If you have a smart phone, just know that it's very easy to track you. If it's easy to track you, then it's just a matter of time before you'll be stopped, if that's in fact what they want to do.
Lets not forget the Blowtorch effect if those batteries overheat! So much for protecting the environment.
Those are ford and GM imports from China
A few complaints. Running costs aren't necessarily lower. A family friend priced charging her electric car versus gas and found them to be nearly the same. How will this change when that 1% goes up to 10 or 20% and power is in higher demand? How will that change if the gov succeeds at pushing us off fossil fuel power to more expensive wind/solar? And then there's the increase in the cost for already rare minerals. Lithium is already skyrocketing in value. And then there's all the updates the power grid will need to accommodate millions of new electric car chargers.
Important factors to consider. Thanks for your input!
97% of wealth is just digital while only 3 % is physical cash. If electricity were to die out or we run out of energy resources everything would go to shit and even the billionaires will start crying like babies
Curious to know your thoughts on hybrid cars?
EMPs let them drop .
I have never understood why those who extract natural resources get to keep all the profits. Whether it’s cobalt in the Congo, or petroleum in the U.S., that material belongs to the PEOPLE of those nations, and hence those people should be the ones getting the lion’s share of the benefit. The parasites extracting the material should get 5%, and if they don’t like that arrangement, the government can just extract the resources itself, like Norway.
It’s refreshing to see you speaking about something other than crypto. Keep venturing into other topics, it’ll grow your channel to the next level I’m sure. Your videos are really well structured and thought out, plus you’re pleasant to watch and listen to, unlike many of the other finance and crypto channels. But hopefully you won’t be just a finance and crypto channel anymore 😎
Your comment confirms that I have the best viewers! It can be difficult for content creators to venture into various niches but I'm glad to have your support :)
I prefer Max’s crypto content the most, but you’re right. I’ve learned so much just based off of his ventures into these other topics.
Plus, Max also shows how all these topics are intertwined anyway. Amazing content
@@MaxMaher batteries are out of date compared to refining fossil fuels, refining oil for gas hasnt been around as long as batteries which have been around 2000 years how many more thousands of years do you need? LOL batteries are a jack of all trades master at none, they will never be more energy dense and batteries arent purpose built for only one thing it will never compete people need to accept reality.
Def need more videos like these from your channel
@@MaxMaher I enjoyed your video, and I wouldn't have discovered you had you not ventured into this topic. Good on ya mate.
Lithium batteries.. Incredibly worse for “the environment” and child labor.
Largest lithium producer is Australia.
@@elmohead
Yes.. and?
@@quigley6643 we don't use child labour, and coal and oil are much, much worse for the environment
@@elmohead
You should look up how lithium is being mined (not in Australia), and what the “plans” for all those used batteries that will start piling up in 20+ years. Hahaha
“..muh muh coal..”
@@quigley6643 for sure. But don't blame the tech for the child labour. That's like blaming cotton farming techniques for slavery.
Great video but I do have one critique.
1 Ton of Lithium = Emissions of 15000lbs of Coal. Or 7.5 tons of Coals.
In the future, could you use the same units? Thanks
Bigger numbers add to the shock value 🤣
.. and Germany is going to burn coal from China
mining 1 ton not transporting just Mining.
The coal is burnt and therefore never returns, whereas the Lithium enters a battery, lives there until it is extracted and returns to live again in a new battery.
BTW, the newer the battery, the more efficient it is at using raw materials. That is the nature of progress as they learn to better “dope” the chemistry to getter better speed and storage efficiency.
While ignoring each car uses about 10kilogram or 0.01 tonne of lithium.
It's sad that many people dont know about this. EVs are extremely polluting..
It's all about the lifecycle emissions. EVs in their current state are not a long term solution as they still pollute a lot, but also a lot less than ICE vehicles. They are the first step in the right direction. Even states with strong coal mix of power generation, an EV produces less lifetime emissions in around 2 years. In more renewable heavy states, that time shrinks to as little as 6 months. I cringe when companies say "zero emission", but they are still cleaner in the long run. I think the biggest pending issue is conditions and morale issues of lithium mining.
@@jakeh8366 The problem with current EV's is that you are front-loading your pollution, Until we change our battery composition to a more renewable form EV's will be stuck in a strange place enviromentally. They're only Enviromentally friendly if you use them enough to offset the enviromental production cost. If you're driving only a few thousand Miles a year your batteries will be shot long before you start to "Save the enviroment".
@@bigblue4364 yes, that's true. I only mean to highlight that exact fact, it's up to the individual to look at their usage, and energy mix in their area to determine how long it will take to make a positive impact on their total emissions. For some that don't drive much, that payoff isnt there. For most that drive the average of 12,000, it is, but you raise a good point. It's not a one size fixes all problem.
much less polluting than fossil fuel cars. Which is why we have to stop burning stuff to travel.
@@jakeh8366 The whole "less than ICE vehicles" assumes the grid is actually clean. With the way things are going, we might run out of lithium before having a clean grid.
The biggest problem in the long run is the fight for right to repair here
Yep modern ICE vehicles are screwed. BEVs are soo much easier to repair and do major works with limited resources. It's much easier to totally remove and replace the entire motor or battery modules in a personal workshop. Then try to do an Engine Swap with a modern complicated highly electronic and rats nest of piping modern engine. Having less moving parts and modular repeating use of the same parts is what makes BEVs much better for Right to Repair.
Great video as usual! But it is a misconception about oil. The petrol will be burnt to move the car, but we forget what is behind the production of it.
Extraction (done with electricity), transport (boats or trucks), refinery, transport again to petrol station and sold to be burnt.... Here in Norway 90% of new sold cars are electric and you can smell the difference...
Thank you for sharing Cizzy!
The major difference is also in energy production methods. In Germany, your electric car would be mostly coal and lignite powered.
You must be sponsored by illuminated green lizard people 😂
@@Gornemant still better and more efficient than burning petrol. Even you take the petrol and burn it directly in an industrial generator it is still more efficient than using an ice car.
Norway has clean renewables therefore electric cars are cleaner. But most of the other Countries should first transition to clean renewables before changing over to electric cars. Then after you generate all clean renewable energy, 'then' you go ahead and transition to EVs. It just make more sense that way.
I do NOT want an EV......🤨 it’s all about choice and I have a feeling this mindset ,madness and mandates is going to go in the trash, it’s all about reality...😉
I agree so much! I have no interest in electric cars, and it is only getting worse as they’re forcing them down our throats. The fact I only recently got my drivers license, meaning I will suffer from these laws very early on in my experience of driving cars, makes me feel so bad. I have a genuine feeling of missing out on what makes me happy.
So don’t buy one. Keep paying five times more per mile.
You think when demand for electricity goes up, the price won't@@jerrypolverino6025
Instead of screwing around with an ancient technology with serious inherent flaws that will never be overcome we should be developing a better fuel to power internal combustion vehicles and developing something like Chrysler’s old turbine engine which would run on anything combustible.
As a guy from a business that makes those things, even we were moving away from that.
They toyed with Corn based Ethanol. But the moment we in the West are willing to pay more for fuel than Poor Countries can pay for food, millions starve. With Climate Change causing dramatic weather events, food production is already precarious. I just read recently China's major agricultural region is suffering a terrible drought, but, as with all things there, the CCP doesn't want anyone to know.
Why not focus on clean electricity such as nuclear fission and nuclear fusion to charge cars that last 500k-1,000k miles?
@@mylesgray3470 because the goverment doesnt want that.they want an excuse to take your money and rights with people accepting it. They have free green energy but surpress it because it keeps everyone enslaved. Think about the cost of production. With free energy, literally anything would be almost free, the excuse to enslave us gone, and we can even use existing cars with hydrogen from tap water with an electrolysis way more efficient than standard. The guy who invented it got killed shortly after he started talking about the government surpressing free energy. The solution already exists, but is not wanted. We could live in a utopian world where all this economy is not needed to sustain a paradise like world, but thats not what the people who want us to be miserable slaves want for us.
As an automotive engineer I can tell you what you are suggesting has been thought of, and unless you want to end up with extremely complicated and very expensive machine be careful what you wish for.
In California we can't get through the summer without blackouts. Not a chance pg&e will be able to make charging cheap. It's 90 cents per kwh so gas is not only easier but not more expensive. I'm never getting an ev, too expensive and not even a little convenient for me so I'm out
In respect to your idea, not everyone can afford to purchase an E car besides it's quite costly even to maintain it🤷how do the common man go about it?
It's the 21 century or more lol but men you should get yourself involved in the modern world, they're many opportunities out there that can actually bring good incomes for ya , that's how you escape the rat race.
Tesla's especially 😂it take a huge bag to get that baby, but I will get it or my son will, in due time 🤞
@ctolarson4002 Thanks so much for the info , yeah I got my eyes on some good options, probably sell some of property but got some funds in the bank, I hope I get things right anywhere.
@Larson How cab I do this please, sounds interesting 🤔.
The cost is a valid concern!
Bs. Here in the UK , the problem is 1. Price , these cars are around £4 - 5000.00 more expensive than petrol/diesel equivalent. 2. Charging. There are not enough charging points, those that exist are run by different companies , so you can't guarantee you charger will fit. Also some of these charge points don't work,
I know! Also, EV batteries do carry potential safety hazards which must be managed. These include electric shock, arc flash burn, heatwave/fire burns and explosion, which could include shrapnel and hot molten metal
@@MaxMaher of course, I use to drive a Honda crz hybrid, could only get serviced at a specialist garage cuz the damn battery could kill
I personally think hybrid is the true answer . Best of both. We’ve seen what hybrids can do in terms of reliability, performance , and emission’s. Use a little bit of both worlds
It is a good transition and works for those who cant access chargers overnight
@@Poepad yeah it's really stupid to use rare non-renewable resources at such a alarming rate
I'm gearnut. Loved modifying my jdm twin turbo cars. But once I got 2021 tesla MYP for my wife I had to get one for myself. Just took delivery of 2022 blue MYP. I did not buy teslas for environment. I bought them to skip smog checks, gas stations, and cost to run. It all comes down to cost. Also I have paid off solar panels at home so basically get free juice for the teslas
Sounds like you have a lot of money most people don’t have 200,000 to spend on 2 cars
Once again this is not for the common man. I too have solar panels on my house supplying all my own power to an off grid network, but I understand I am far from the majority financially and this isn’t a viable option for most
@@robbyturbo109 I understand. I was broke until 4 yrs ago. But housing, and crypto boom made it possible for me
Someone said 200,000 for 2 teslas… is this some foreign dollar worth about .50 usd?
120,000 or thereabouts . The model Y AWD, long range is ~58k, the performance (who the hell needs the performance when the AWD version does 0-60 in 4.8?) is ~62k. All US$.
@@davidlemieux615 I paid $69k for 2021 MYP and $77k for 2022 MYP that price includes tax and destination if you're curious.
The next President we have will come in and undo the executive order to end gas powered vehicles. The government shouldn’t force me to buy something I don’t want and I don’t care for or want a EV
I hear you! Not everyone also can't afford switching to EVs
@@MaxMaher I honestly think they should give EV’s more time for better research and development before becoming mainstream so we can be driving just as good vehicles with little difference vs gas/diesel.
There's a high probability for an EV to be totaled in a car accident involving two cars going just 20 mph. If the battery gets damaged, that's all she wrote.
What is the point of giving up comforts today to theoretically extend the life of a planet that even science itself says will cease to exist no matter what we do?
Who's giving up conforts.
Oh uou mean ice cars? I love what comes with that, pollution, cancer, alzhiemers. Do you mean those conforts. Or the trips to the petrol station.
Vs plugging in an ev, and helping reduce health inclinations. Oh and as its so cheap to run, my family and I go lots of places and enjoy ourself. What's even better is that its so easy too. That's comfort
@@paulevans7560 I would say ac is a comfort, for one, gas stoves also, reduced flow shower heads etc. Electric cars for certain, have you ever tried towing with an EV? It's absolutely impractical with todays tech. I have nothing against EV's, they serve a good purpose in many cases but I do have something against those that want to take away choice. I also am not convinced that EVs are any better for the environment with todays technology.
Evs are still too expensive and we don't have enough material to make enough batteries for all cars to be EVs right now. Not to mention the range and charge rate issues with EVs.
The push right now should be for PHEV cars. If you have a large enough battery to get 40-50 miles on a charge then that covers the daily driving of 90-95% of people. So for all intents you are driving an electric car most of the time. It also means you can charge your car at home overnight and there is no need for the massive infrastructure required for super charger networks. But you don't have any of the drawbacks of an EV for long distance driving.
The batteries for a PHEV only need to be about 20% of the size of a full EV which allows us to electrify more vehicles.
The push should then be to install level 2 chargers at as many locations where people spend 30 minutes or longer. Gyms, grocery stores, malls, workplaces etc.
I agree! PHEVs have larger battery than regular hybrids have, so they can be driven farther and more often on electric power
This would be so smart… literally would solve so much and still save people money! If they want to go further no worries because then you can use gas. That’s not even close to most people anyways either!
Battery materials are being ramped up very quickly. Mines are being expanded or opened at an unprecedented rate. Although mines , in general, ain’t as fast to start as a car plant.
Tesla went from a rice field to a new, large plant in just a year. In 2.5 years it went on to produce over 1 million BEVs.
Mines ain’t gonna be that fast… not even close.
That is why battery chemistries and battery structures are changing to use less materials and be more efficient per KG of material.
Incorrect on moat counts.
Many evs are in line with ice cars. Factoring in total coat of ownership and they work out cheaper. In fact teslas model 3 was recently found to be cheaper than the cheapest ice car in usa
As for not enough materials. Incorrect. We do and they're recycled. Unlike in ice cars
Phevs are fractionally better than ice cars and cost more to maintain. So yes you may get 5 or 10 miles extra mpg vs 1n mpg of 150 for an ev.
Phevs have a mileage of around 25 to 30 miles, higher fire risk, longer charge times, hugher maintenance.
Cost of a Ford focus of similar speed but lower spec to a tesla is 37 to 38k. A tesla is 38k.
Also many people lease which works out cheaper.
Yiu talk of infrastructure and then talk about charging phevs with tiny batteries rhat take 2 to 3 x the time an ev would to get that 30 miles. That's clogging up the network
As for journeys. 95% are less than 25 miles. Easy. Don't need a tiny engine and almost no ev benefits. When yiu can have all the benefits.
@@MaxMaherdo you know what has an even greater range.... evs. They're faster to charge, less fire risk, lower maintence costs. When vehicle to grid happens they can help the grid. What can a tiny hybrid do. Nothing. Hybrids are getting banned soon for a reason
Most think you have to spend massive money to buy an EV. I purchased a 2016 E-Golf in 2019 for $12k with 15k miles on it. It's a simple little beater commuter, but it has saved me thousands in gas and it's a fun little bugger to drive around. Now at 55k miles and it's never had a single issue. Even if the battery goes, it's almost paid for itself already in fuel saving, oil changes, air filters, brakes, etc. Plus if you think about environment impact, it's not as simple as emitting fumes, I have avoided at least 7 oil changes at 5 quarts a pop. That adds up after a while, don't for a minute think the used oil doesn't pollute or cause environmental issues along with used spark plugs, air filters, coolant, trans fluid, diff fluid, etc. from a regular gas/diesel vehicle. I've always been a gear head, corvettes, porsches, various JDM/Euro fun cars, etc. but it's all boring now. EVs are definitely the future.
They might be the future, but still can’t compete with ice engines on distance
@@wilhathaway1987 that's fine, it doesn't need to. In my case it's my third vehicle that I use to beat around and commute with. I have much nicer options for long hauls. I always laugh at that argument, nobody is telling you to buy EV over ice if it's your only car, not yet anyways. But it makes more than enough sense to have at least one in the family.
I mean just cause people like them don’t mean we all want them !!
Sorry the only I have to disageee qith is that a car is fun. It's not
It's the future the cause government is pretty much forcing us
FIRST!? Great video Max, keep up the quality good work. Thank you for the value and entertainment you share to us
Thanks! Will do!
California: “Hey everybody! Let’s all go buy electric vehicles! We can go for a drive for something to do during the rolling blackouts!” 😆
Not to mention the broken charging stations across the US 😆
In blackouts there's no petrol stations.
Also evs mean a more stable grid.
Sorry y9u don't realise how much electricity is needed to pump oil out the ground let alone during refining.
If everything went electric (cars, heating etc) it would use about 25% to 33% of the electricy. Ie using less energy which means less risk of blackouts.
Oin fact batteries would also help during blackouts.
@@paulevans7560 They are rolling blackouts genius. You can fill your car when the power is on. LOL
EV's only offer manufacturers a way of selling you a new car - a forced sale because you have no choice. Millions and millions of perfectly good, servicable ICE cars thrown on the scrap heap, so the thought of selling you a new car (because you have no choice) is literal gold mine. Ultimately, EV's won'tymake any differnece to the climiate - none whatsoever, not once you factor in the damage done during manufacture, and all the extra power stations that will be required. Once again, the consumer is being targeted as the problem, when it's big corporates, heavy industry, shipping etc that are the real poluters. We're easy targets who have to follow the rules. The earth will be raped of all the minerals needed until there's nothing left, and the environmental damage will be staggering, but rarely (if ever) mentioned just to ensure companies keep reaping the profits.
I’ll just wait for flying cars. Jetsons was more my style. In the 80’s, they said we would have them by 2020.
They exist , but they are useless , too expensive and hard to control
Wait until they start to charge you a road tax. Because of every single car being so much heavier and the road having to be repaired. Not from heavy goods vehicles, but cars.
Definitely something to think about! 🧐 Road taxes could change as electric cars become more common
Electric vehicles will always need fossil fuels in some form or another
You've got a point there! Electricity grids in most of the world are still powered by fossil fuels such as coal or oil, and EVs depend on that energy to get charged.
Electric car makers are already looking to eliminate cobalt from battery chemistry. Tesla (and maybe a few more) already have iron sulfate batteries which use more plentiful and sustainable materials. Eliminating tailpipe emissions in cities will have many health benefits which is a cost of ICE cars most people don’t consider.
The best explanation that I have seen so far for EV cars.Easy to understand and short.
EVs seem to be for people who have money, and want other people to know that they have more money than others.
I don't have money. I'm fact I couldn't afford a Ford focus. Ended up leasing an ev. Cheaper each month for lease. Then save 100 each month on fuel.
Hey Max, what do you think about the emergence of hydrogen powered cars? I know that concept has the backing of Toyota and of course Dodge are replacing the Hellcat with the Hydra. How will big car manufacturers make these new engines profitable while also not pissing off Big Oil? I'm glad the electric car has at least some competition and that it's being backed by some big names. I hope to God the hydrogen engine ends up being the blu-ray in this battle.
It will.
India n japan are going big on hydrogen. So i think its possible it will eat a lot of future EV marketshare
@@rohitkothari3890 Good because from what I'm hearing, it's much better for the environment than gas or electric.
From what I hear, hydrogen would be the ideal choice, but there's something about it that makes it an overall horrible choice. I got this info from a couple engineers and a scientist of some kind. They think electric cars and trucks are just impossible and dumb long term, they are working on solving the huge hydrogen issues.
From what i understand, hydrogen as a fuel source has been around in concept for almost a century, same with electric cars. The biggest hurdle is the logistical cost of storing hydrogen and the round trip efficiency of using it as fuel source compared to batteries in EVs. Technically speaking, it *is* better for the environment and has much higher energy density. But the complications and cost of getting the hydrogen to say a consumer car, just doesn't make economical sense at the present moment.
I can see it being used in aviation and long distance vehicles/ships, where performance is more important than the upfront cost involved.
Whatever happened to increasing the number of miles an ICE vehicle had to get per gallon? Some Toyota vehicles get upwards of 40 MPG.
The problem with other cars that don't have their own charging stations is that the other cars have to rely on third parties to maintenance those charging stations.
I saw a comparison between Ford and Tesla and the charging stations that Ford had were broken down a lot of the times.
I wouldn't really want to get an electric car from any other manufacturer that doesn't have their own charging stations. I don't trust third parties when it comes to maintaining something like that.
You can charge your ford at a Tesla site as musk has removed that barrier. So in the future, at least in the USA I foresee charging stations that supply all vehicles makes and models. The real problem then will be how do we maintain and support all these EVs which our shitty American made power grid that is on the brink of breaking down every day 😅
We need more one-stop-shop charging stations!
Most charge at home.
Need to do an update on this. Electric cars are starting to die. The states were fudged. China massive increase happened but its was government grants and now EVs sit rotting away not being used. UK car dealers have slowed down on as they can move the EVs from the court which is a knock on effect to manufacture. Two months ago my construction site which is the biggest in Europe has ban Ev / lithium battery base equipment on site. Other sites are no looking into this aswell. Also you be shocked who the client is. I got supply chains now changing their investment as they are worried of having EV equipment they can't hire out. Uk has also slowed down on car chargers installment.
Informative feedback! I'll consider these for an update!
Love this video Max, as a strong advocate for EVs, I believe the value is in the long term like you said. What a lot of people misunderstand about EVs is:
*They need less fuel to charge the car in order to go from A to B than it takes an ICE car to go from A-B (relatively). Which means, less fuel for cars, more fuel for available for energy and defense.
*EVs offset ICE carbon emissions starting at around 13000 miles of age.
*The battery doesn't disappear into the air like gas does, some will last as long as 10 years and can be recycled and reused.
*Battery technologies are developing so fast, that there are alternative abundant metals and materials being explored with promising potential.
*In 10 years, EVs accomplished more than what ICE have in over a 100 years.
*Tesla superchargers are run completely by renewable energy for example, and it was found that less energy was needed to charge all the Teslas in the US than it was produced by solar energy and storage, so that's another burden taken off of the gas need.
This is brilliant man! Thanks for the info
Right, just look at what Mullen Automotive are doing with super long range batteries! They’ve partner up with an Amazon Logistics for EV Cargo vans..
Who will be the winner in the Best Battery technology?
CATL
QUANTUAMSCAPE
TESLA
MULLEN
@@lj4001 I think Solid Power is closer to mass production than QuantumScape
You didn’t need to ban horses to get people to buy ICE cars, they were just better tech so people bought them. EVs are being forced upon people through big government BS. If it’s better tech at a reasonable price people will buy it, otherwise it will fail because everything the government touches fails…(and I disagree with a lot of your “facts”, you can spew anything online but that doesn’t make it real, but I don’t argue in YT comment sections… so whatever helps you sleep at night)
@@Mistro07 what a way to escape the argument by literally arguing your point then saying that you don't argue on YT comment. My facts were not spewed, they were tested and are being tested in the real world. I guess whatever helps you sleep better.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". We've been doing the same thing for over a 100 years with no different results other than few ponies, few milliseconds faster, fewer more MPGS and a whole lot of price tag with every "upgrade" on these ICE cars. 100 years of ICE numbers, completely destroyed by a technology that's been in real world development for just ~12 years. Wonder what the next 10 years will bring. OEMs have spent billions of dollars on ads trying to demonize and destroy EV makers for years, only now that they had to bend over ass up to REALITY and start making their own EVs because they were losing customers to EV makers.
We are letting elon musk and jeff bezos dictate our way of living. Just blindly following these guys. No more being able to fix your car by yourself, no more finding the mechanic that might be able to do it better and cheaper than the next guy, no more modding and making the car your own, no more reselling, no more keeping and maintaining a car for 20 years. And if elon musk wants to limit your car use or turn it off then o well.
But that is problem of corporativism not EV cars.
Nope. Currently you're letting yourself be dictated to by oil companies. For a bonus though, it's costing you financially as well as environmentally and your health too. Sorry to point out the obvious
You didn't mention the constant blackouts from everyone including Amazon charging all these EVs
And that includes broken charging stations across the US 😆
@@MaxMaher that's actually very true. Keep up the great work Max.
There is no blackout from charging cars, whene do you come up this BS.
@@Poepad hacker will make emp to black out your car dummies
300 miles a charge, I get 600 miles to the tank. You forgot that there range is worse when it's cold. And there towing capacity is crap.
Max is the best teacher I've ever had
Wait until criminals realize how much copper is in those charging cords, lol.
Better not to tell them lol
@@MaxMaher I was hoping natural selection would happen when criminals cut into electrical charging cords. 😜
Evs are harder to steal. Also wait until the crimials steal your catalytic converter, oh wait they already do.
My ev has cameras, harder to steal, pin to drive, and a tracker.
We need new, better battery technologies to make EVs work. Relying on recycling alone to sustain growing battery demand seems naive and exacerbates existing issues surrounding mining and distribution of these minerals if there are no alternatives. I hope something like graphene technology comes to the fore, and soon
I agree. It's also important to note that even if EV batteries are recyclable, the recycling industry for these products is not that well developed
Just ask China because they own all the elements to make these batteries. I’m sure they’ll be happy to help.
Actually, many businesses ALREADY exist to do the recycling simply because recycling minerals is way easier than digging holes, grabbing tons of stuff you don’t want or need, removing all that crap, then refining it, then moving it back and forth around the planet.
Much of this video is way out of date. Typical of people who think like someone pre-eighties. As an IT guy we have long seen this as they don’t understand the effects of time on progress.
There is new tech coming all the time, just takes a few years to put it in place. I would sell any stock you have in lithium, it will be phased out.
It takes 100 lbs of battery to hold the energy in 1 lb of petrol. Huge weight penalty... the reason we won't have electric aircraft.
Insightful. Thanks for sharing Max. Dude... i've been watching your videos from the beginning -- insane how much production quality improvement you've made and how fast you've grown. Well-done, keep it up!
It has not been an easy journey but I can't deny that it continues to be worth it!
@@MaxMaher nothing easy is worth it in the long run!
It wasn't insightful. It was factually incorrect ha
Buy a used car. You’re saving the planet by not investing in new carbon footprint, but rather one already made essentially starting at a carbon zero footprint.
Yes, used cars can indeed be a green choice!
All this to revive a technology originally created in the 1800s along side combustion engines. Petrol gained market adoption due to all of the shortcomings that still plague EVs. It offers no environment advantage with the massive strip mining required for batteries and other production materials. They weight nearly twice as much as the alternative meaning increased tire, road wear and hazards during a crash. Electric production still requires fossil fuels and the electrical grid cannot withstand the increased demand. In addition to that, battery longevity is very limited leaving the used EV market much like used Cellphones, spotty at best, meaning tons of materials to be disposed of.
I appreciate your insight! What's your take on hybrid cars?
@@MaxMaher I think hybrids are a better balance while still not ideal simply due to battery materials etc. They don't endure the heavy charge loads typical of fast charge station (ie damaging charge rates). They also benefit from alternating use meaning the battery is not depleted and recharged as heavily nor as frequently.
Additionally, they capture wasted energy in the way of braking and such.
In performance vehicles hybrid technology also assist in torque vectoring when applied to an AWD system while also providing torque fill at lower RPMs.
Ultimately, I think it is the better solution until a newer technology like hydrogen or something of that nature finds adoption.
@@MaxMaher I had an LS 600h once, the batteries don't last forever, the hybrid system adds complexity to the whole thing, there is a heavy lack of knowledgeable technicians for those systems, parts are insanely expensive. In hindsight, I would rather have gone with the non-hybrid version of the car any day, the benefits from the hybrid system are just not worth it in the long run if you plan on keeping the car for longer than the warranty. Remember, the biggest impact of a car is the production, so a long life reduces the impact of the car.
Either gas or fully electric, I would stay away from hybrid systems.
A car exec once said it best re Hybrids. It’s like a mermaid, when you want a woman, you get a fish and when you want a fish, you get a woman.
Please do not compare cell phone batteries to EV batteries, not even close. There are Hybrid batteries still on the road after a decade of use.
The only place EVs are going is in the junk yards. And whatever permanent damage they do to the environment won't be known for years.
This is an amazing point! Thank you for sharing this. More politicians need to understand this before slowly taking away practical transportation! Which is responsible for a large amount of our daily living.
ICE cars will be around for at least 30 years more.
Companies like redwood materials are game changers in this equation.. they extract 95% of the minerals from used batteries, will reduce the need for mining, and will be a big player in driving total cost to production down.
The move was not surprising considering that the founder is Tesla's former CTO! I will keep an eye on this, thank you.
No, EVs are MORE in the life cycle by 2x more than ICE cars when you make fuels from RE. The future is Renewable Energy fuel, NOT batteries. New engine tech will be par to an EV in plug to wheel efficiency... With RE fuels, a combustion engine can last 60 years and get 96% of the CO2 gone, whereas an EV can only reduce CO2 by 33 to 55% depending on assumptions. An EV CANNOT get to CO2 neutral, but a combustion car CAN. Game over for EVs if CO2 is the issue.
Lithium, Cobalt, and Nickel. All expensive and rare materials. When I worked at Allison Gas Turbine, we were advised to minimize use of Cobalt because it was classified as a strategic alloy. 40+ years later, it hasn't become any less strategic.
Not worried about it. People won't invest in EV if it costs too much. Nothing gets people more active than being told they need to pay $10k to replace control arms because they're not repair friendly.
As for range " anxiety " yeah friend bought recently a 2022 BMW EV and it giot 70 miles . 70 is NOWHERE . He found out to get the few hundred miles range he needed to fork up much more mulah . Close to 100 K
If our government hadn't wasted so much money at the rate it has over the last 60 years we would have flying cars and colonies in outer space by now.....
They could have fix infrastructure, education and health
@@jdel7525 P.S infrastructure, education and health programs ,money is given freely every year ,yet it goes to other pet projects ....
Flying cars! That would fix the traffic
In fact if oiil companies hadn't lied etc then we'd have had evs years ago. In fact Henry Ford contemplated evs. But some worker convinced him to go internal combustion. Shame
@@MaxMaherregarding flying cars ,20 years ago Dr Moller said we would be flying in cars by now 😂
Nice deep dive, but how do I invest? Would I have to invest in companies out of China controlling Cobalt and lithium? Or take a gamble in Rivian which might not last considering Tesla is looking like a monopoly. Or just continue to DCA Tesla stock
TESLA is the way to go, as they do more than sell cars. Virtual grid is the real money maker.
There are so many studies that show, and confirm each other, that yes, EVs are dirtier to build, but that they actually catch up and pay off between 5 months and three years in almost every case. The data is irrefutable and omnipresent for anyone who really wants to see it. Furthermore, EV technology is in it’s infancy. We will see massive improvements, not just in current battery chemistry, but in the entire non-fossil fuel based platform. Range anxiety is non-existent for anybody who has actually driven an EV on a few long trips. That argument just needs to go away, like many others, especially from the crowd that has never actually experienced an EV. The cost is coming down rapidly, and due to those chemical and technical improvements we will see, it will continue to fall. Cobalt, nickel etc. are already considered to be not optimal by Tesla. They have been working for years on alternatives. It will happen. As for producing the electricity with fossil fuels, yes, we still do in most cases. However, that too has been changing. There are cities in Australia running on battery power plants that get their energy from solar. Texas has agreements with Tesla to build even more battery/solar power plants to serve large populations. All of this is moving faster than the time it took to find weak and already refuted arguments most anti EVers use. At the turn of the 20th century, had we used the logic most anti EVers use, we would still be riding horses. Current EVs are entry models into the industry, and put us on the right path. If you aim to kill it because it isn’t perfect yet, then we won’t get anywhere. I sure hope you don’t use the same logic in other areas. I own three ICE cars and one Tesla Model Y. I wish they were cheaper now, but they will be soon. I wish the grid was fully ready. It will be soon. We need both technologies…until we don’t. We also need to stop speaking out on technologies that are not perfect, but certainly represent major steps in the right direction. Humanity can only get better if we work hard to improve and stop hanging on to the past so much.
So magic future tech will make EVs not be shitty as they are now but also there is no possible magic future tech that will make ICVs clean?
Nope ice cars won't ever be as clean.
PROTECT INTERNAL COMBUSTION.
There's definitely still a place for ICE cars! 🚗
The reality is you pay, say $40k to $60k for a new electric vehicle. You keep it for 5 or 6 years. You may be close to replacing the battery. You can't give it away and trade is worth nothing.
Great video! I wasn't aware that China was on the same deadline to switch to EVs as the USA and Europe. I just hit up the googles and it seems India is onboard as well. I'm hoping that the metals can be ethically sourced soon. Maybe we'll find a bunch of them on the moon or through asteroid mining. I know this sounds like science fiction. But I've been around for nearly six decades, I remember seeing man land on the moon for the first time. And the cheap phone in my purse operates pretty much like a star trek communicator. I've been seeing mind-blowing tech become commonplace for as long as I can remember.
Though I think it would still be cool if we could just pay people what their labor is worth rather than slave wages, and then charge people like me more for the end product.
You’re absolutely right! If the automobile industry interests you, Japan and India is also looking into hydrogen powder competing with EVs!
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@@CoFGillesdeRais Glad you liked that. I was sooo high when I wrote all of that.
Fun fact “maybe” I just saw a video saying that it’s highly possible that cutting carbon could actually cause the temperature to rise drastically.
Maybe our best bet is to just regulate it how it is now and don’t increase or decrease it.
That's a unique take, thanks for sharing 👍
Wait till graphene starts to take over and that might solve a lot of the issues we have today.
I have been waiting for 30 years 😪
@@globusine 30 years ago and even now EV were rejected and fought by OEMs to not see the day light. Within 10 years, EVs have achieved what ICE cars couldn't in over a 100 years
Doubt
I don’t see Graphene being usable in our lifetime. It’s fundamentally flawed by design
@@thezyreick4289 seems like the only hurdle is a mass production technique
@@leoboo EVs have a long way to go dude, still can’t complete with ice engines
Buying an electric car vs. gas cars. My thoughts on this, people are trading high gas prices for high car payments and full coverage insurance. I buy used cars 20 year old or older get PLPD insurance, money saved $$$$$.$$. Car repair much cheaper than a car payment. $$$$$.$$.
You've got a point-buying used cars can indeed save money in the short term. It's all about finding the right balance for your personal needs and preferences 👍
This is a solid take on the emissions side, but I would like to point out one thing. If the lithium mining and cell manufacturing facilities use clean energy, then almost all of the lifetime emissions can be offset. We should look to manufacturers to produce new cars using clean energy.
Thanks for sharing Dane! Members have been sharing their thoughts on clean energy including hydrogen fuel and nuclear energy
Have younseen the images of the valleys that are now dead white because of lithium mining.?
So which company sells the electric giant mining tractor so that they can use "clean energy" LOL. The cleanest energy is nuclear and no one is willing to use that.
@@rt3593 WTF No such images exist. Australia does Hard Rock lithium mining, the work area is NOT White when mined. It's still dirty rocks with impurities which need to be processed. Your lies defies geological facts.
I really hate that no one to talk about their lifespan you be batteries. They only half the lifespan of a ice cars. Poor people buy cheaper used cars and if the cars doesn't last as long. poor people are priced out of the market. If you really care about CO2 ev lasts about 12 years but ice last 25 years. Making new cars takes a lot of CO2 and by the time you breakeven your batteries is degraded.
Good points! The battery lifespan and environmental impact are definitely worth considering. Appreciate your input! 👍
Drove my first EV today. Little car sharing sh*tbox. Hard to judge EVs based on that. But don't forget about the great reset, we'll own nothing
Self driving taxi EVs
When you talk about the great reset you lost all credibility.
Insurance companies are now moving toward excluding EVs from their policies. Who will buy an EV that is uninsurable? States require vehicles to be insured!
Nice Vid Brother !!! Everything has a Cost. Electric Vehicles over the Next Couple of Decades will be the Preferred Option due to Less Moving Parts, Increasing Range, Reduced Charging Times, and Increasing Battery Life. Please Feel Free to do Vid about Solid State Batteries !!! This is when i think the Real Innovation will occur 😄
Also the government can control if we could drive them at all the electric system is synced to the company making them. So if Tyranny takes over completely they can shut down your car if you don't agree with the communist system they will shut you down. Look around they want to control everything you do. They now control how you set your thermostat in very hot areas in the world.
Funny, the tone and style is that of someone trying to win you over to some side by quick and confident rhetoric, but everything said is just totally balanced and reasonable.
aaaahahahahah your quest stand upon the edge of a knife..... stray but a little, and it will fail.
Max in India both company TATA and Mahindra are planning to build a vehicle ecosystem for both 2 wheeler & 4 wheeler around swapable battery stations across the whole country....... This system is already there in Japan for a 2 wheeler company.... The battery stations recharge the batteries that were replaced by a customer & is ready for the next customer to use..... I personally like this idea.... What are your thoughts on this MAX
I love this idea! Building strong ecosystem for EVs
India electrified its last village Leisang in 2019. its been only four years. in a country where coal has been the major source of electricity, it doesnt really makes sense if you are producing/selling BEVs. we have still not been able to define what a "zero emission vehicle" is. so if you consider only tank to wheel emission it doesn't add up. my two cents
Did you count the mining of oil, refining, production, storing and transporting of fuels? Everyone forgets to factor that cost in. Also the cost of making a ICE car. It isn’t much less than an electric car.
What about people that have solar roofs or charge at Tesla stations that are 100% sun generated.
People love to cherry pick their data to prove their points.
Unless opinions backed by nothing.
Remember when diesel was the future? I wonder if anyone will remember electric cars being the future when charging them will cost a fortune due to the energy crisis. Not to mention the stable alkaline elements that are put into the batteries of these cars. I wonder much it will cost to disassemble (maybe even reuse these) in the future. I hear mining cobalt and lithium is almost a big of a drama as blood diamonds, but we will see. There's no reason to dig a hole for electric cars just yet. I am not a fan though.
Fair points made Tibi!
Look at the Apetera, the most efficient car ever. It can solar charge 30-40 miles range per day just being parked outside. This is the direction I hope the future goes eventually and I’ll vote with my wallet by buying one, assuming they eventually go into full production. Until then I’ll keep driving my Prius which I plan to get at least 200k miles out of. Keeping what you own as long as possible is a step in the right direction and saves you lots of money, an added bonus.
Charging them is 1/4 cost vs filling up your ICE car.
Elec rates will not change due to car charging, as the elec utils have excess capacity at night. they had to idle windmills, not they can keep them moving. That will cause more windmills to be built. Tex can't build them fast enough.
Buy an electric car by all means but make sure it has a big enough boot to fit a compact powerful diesel generator so you are never stuck trying to charge the heap of crap!
I bought an Ev last year and must say its a far better driving experience over a gas powder car. Being able to charge fully at home changes your perception of what driving and fuel range is. I think Ev's are for sure the future for non-commercial use cases. Give it a few more generations of tech innovation and it will be a better system than gas for the home user, not just different. WHen that happens everyone will switch to EV because its cheaper and better.
They are also quieter and incredibly easier to drive! What kind of EV do you own?
@@MaxMaher Chevy Bolt EUV. Perfect size for getting around town and shorter road trips in the area. New models coming out in the next 1-2 years means we will replace our gas Subaru and be all EV. With 300-400 miles of range for newer EV's which are more like mid to full size SUV's it becomes possible to road trip with the family all over the west coast due to the prevalence of fast chargers here. 30-40 minutes is a good stop to eat lunch and gain a few hundred miles of range. In 5 years I think you will also see L2 and L3 chargers in almost every parking lot around. One thing I noticed now is a charging stop isn't just pulling in to get gas, it's more like plugging in and doing 30 minutes of shopping or eating at Whole Foods or Target. It's a pretty relaxing experience.
Key point… non commercial lol 😂. I like electric vehicle and I’m a truck owner and I need it for business and I’m not into the whole hype on electric trucks… at least not yet. Just because electric motors have excellent torque but if your hauling thousands of pounds of materials and equipment I wonder how much range I’ll be left with? I find the electric truck from Tesla to be gimmicky and fashionable. I’m sure it’s a great leisure vehicle but again, highly skeptical on how it will ultimately perform under commercial purposes. Sadly people are deluded into thinking that everyday consumers need to change their driving habits, but the reality is that industry and commercial vehicles and rigger semi trucks polute exponentially more than some random bloke with a Honda Civic.
@@ramintahouri270 I think trucks will be diesel powered for a good long time. Simply for the fact that diesel has such a higher energy density than any battery currently can. I don't see this as a bad thing either per se. In fact if you want to get extra green, there are ways to make diesel fuel in ways that the carbon emitted is basically net zero. In the residential space though an EV is actually really nice to have.
@@ramintahouri270 So you don't think the F150 lighting is real??
Long term, you're probably looking at BEVs with much smaller less powerful motors, still governed down to an arbitrary max kWh draw to conserve energy use. You also have power capacity issues today and no huge rush to build power plants of meaningful capacity for a transition to EVs for all transportation.. the top down planning that's giving us the new ICE vehicle ban isn't going to end well if it goes the way typical top down government planning goes.
Hydrogen is the way to go. EV's have too many drawbacks; slow charging is one, overloaded powersupply is two. Not to mention all the batteries that will soon be impossible or not fully recycled.
Hydrogen is not going to go ,ever. To produce hydrogen you need to use incredible amount of energy. Make and transport stations with the hydrogen it's hard . Electricity is already everywhere and cars we can change at home while we sleep, without worrying about explosive accidents 😉
Marco Van Gelder, One of the worst takes ever mate
Thermal runaway stistically across the fleet is a huge public health and safety problem that is ignored by the makers and liied about by our "honest" press.
Spending billion$ on EV charging when enough "ICE charging" (aka gas stations) already exist. Goverments sure know how to waste taxpayers' money . . . . and enforce control.
Pretty good vid, The whole " going ev will save the earth " is one the biggest lie ever. On the topic of evs are heavier than ice roads are pretty bad all over the place it either takes forever to get fixed or never now have vehicles that heavier meaning faster the roads are gonna be damage another thing many dont know
Your points about the weight of EVs and road damage are definitely worth considering. Thanks for sharing 👍
Not a lie. But good for totally missing the point t of this vid
As for weight. Many evs are lighter than bug American cars like trucks and suvs.
Jump forward to 2024 - EV suffer vertical depreciation, high insurance and the demand is dropping rapidly... Nobody wants a second hand EV, and most EV are leased by companies. Hertz and Sixt car rental companies just dumped their EV fleets of Tesla and Polestar - because of high repair costs, unreliability and what they kindly call 'low residual value' ( which means they lose money faster than a drunk in a Casino ).
The big problem is that we don't recycle ev batteries normally, imo.
I would better go for hydrogen cars tbh.
92% battery parts are recyclable, but the recycling industry is not ready to handle it yet. Hopefully we will have the technology soon!
@@MaxMaher They are being recycled as we speak, nobody is going to land fill them.
Companies such as Toyota are being very clever with all of this. Hydrogen fuel cells are proper the future, but infrastructure's not in place properly yet, especially in the British isles. Battery electric are just a stepping stone to better things to come. Again, that's very likely going to aggravate the fanboy / fangirls of plug in electric vehicles haha 👍😜👉
P.s. I didn't know EV's used Nickel. I thought only hybrids used that, Nickel Metal Hydride...
I do believe EVs and hydrogen powered cars are the future!
Blood Diamond ain’t got nothing on those kids mining for conflict minerals!
Haha yeah
None of the electrified networks are ready for these MILLIONS of vehicles.
Politicians might want to, but we can't, plain and simple.
bro who can afford all that hardware a electricity to begin with.
@@samankucher5117 Our politicians seem to think so.
In the UK they want to ban sales of new fossil fuel cars in just 7 years (2030) !!
And you cant trust the UK electorate to massively kick the established political parties up the *ss, they dont like change here, even though they say they do.
It will take 15-20 years to have all vehicles electric. Even then. better and more affordable technologies may come about, like hydrogen. It would be like an LPG car, but run on hydrogen.
One thing I don't hear about is people who have no alternative than to use public charging stations. You may be stuck there for about an hour and you're a sitting duck for criminals that have bad intentions. With ICE vehicles that's not much of an issue. You're usually in and out in about 5 minutes. Mass adoption will require much faster charging times.
A new battery costs probably $7,000 up to $30,000. Just a guess looking around. Good luck if you need a new battery
I could not agree more. It’s not better for the environment. I love Tesla, but he’s a smart guy…Why didn’t Musk think of using MAGNETIC BATTERIES!???? I thought Ford started out using magnetic batteries with gas only being a backup… but then someone ended up being murdered and that changed everything… look it up. Also, Stanley Meyer’s was murdered in 1998 when he was trying to get investors for his water powered engine. There are other options that we should develop however, our big companies and industries have too much to lose. Great topic. Thanks for getting this out there!!!
Always being controlled by some governing entity! It's wild
Speaking as a blue collar worker this is always a silly conversation. There are no charging units in my apartment or at work. Until there is some realistic infrastructure put in place it’s gas. Plus it’s hard to find a cheap used electric car to buy. Even though I would like to buy one at some point, it’s not feasible on so many levels. Ps. does the U.S. Government own and operate electric cars including the president’s motorcade?….
We are trying to solve the wrong problem. Trying to replace 1.4 billion vehicles with electric equivalents is insane. We should think about whether we really NEED 1.4 billion vehicles.
Repair costs need to be public and upfront, every now and then we see the news on how much battery repairs cost, 20k for a leaf, 60k for hyunday, 20k BYD and so on, people wont get an EV if they have no idea how much repairs will cost, car crashes are sure to happen, and you dont want to spend 60k on a car only to spend an extra 60k to repair something.
Nuclear energy is the ultimate power source! One processed uranium pellet the size of a tic tac can power a vehicle for a hundred years!!
It's clean and sustainable, most reliable energy source!
Try and insure one these days. I got quoted £6000/annum. I currently drive a V6 twin turbo and that is £350/annum.
Max, your comments about cobalt and nickel in Tesla's batteries need some clarification/de-fudding. Half of Tesla's cars already use lithium iron phosphate batteries, which are cobalt-free and nickel-free. This fraction is rapidly increasing. The plan is to get away from using cobalt entirely, and to use nickel only in high performance vehicles. Furthermore, Tesla sources most of the cobalt it uses directly from mines that do not use unethical practices such as child labor/exploitation. This information is easy to find, but I will gladly provide sources if you wish.
Hidden subsidies and/or higher prices make the car very dirty. If you take the smallest isolated town and subsidize or higher price 1 car the extra money can only come from additional polluting economic activity. The same principle gets carried over disastrously at scale. This excessive pollution is never in total EV calculations.
The only reason for EV’s holding their price recently is down to supply issues affecting the new car market. The big elephant in the room is battery longevity. Batteries don’t last forever. My phone is only a few years old and already holds less charge than new. As a car battery deteriorates the vale will plummet. The battery is the major cost in these vehicles and replacement will be prohibitively expensive. You would have to be insane to buy an older EV. They are essentially a chuck away item presenting a recycling nightmare. Car manufacturers are milking this inferior tech prior to launching the far more sustainable Hydrogen tech as tested successfully in California many years ago then shelved in order to profit from the questionable impractical Electric options prior to unleashing Hydrogen. (Think Cassette tapes vs CDs) Don’t be fooled buyer beware!
It'll be interesting to see how hydrogen tech develops alongside EVs. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🚗
Most of the cobalt produced today is used to refine petrol. It takes about 1 pound of cobalt to remove the sulfur from 80,000 gallons of petroleum products, like gasoline.