Is a BOOSTED V6 Mustang a Modern Buick Grand National?
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2018
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The V6 Mustang sure does get a bad reputation. Don't get me wrong, years and years of it being overshadowed by the Mustang GT it's no wonder Ford finally made the cyclone V6 a much better engine before discontinuing the V6 Mustang altogether. However, this supercharged V6 mustang I can argue is a more modern feeling Buick Grand National. Now the Grand National will always have the better legacy for pioneering American six cylinder performance cars, but this car was no slouch. With over 400 wheel horsepower nothing feels weirder than having this car put you back in the seat. Thanks for watching!
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Huge thanks to my buddy George at GMG Automotive for putting on this pro charger kit!
I got a 2014 v6 mustang and i will upgrade it with a procharger or a supercharger ... And kill all V8 hahahaha
Hey buddy. Just purchased a 2013 Roush RS. Any suggestions to improve this ride or just leave it alone?
What type of pro charger is it
That you put on this car in the video
If S550s came from factory with the twin turbo ecoboost V6 i feel people would have a hard time choosing between those and the Coyote
2JZ UL8R that’s actually why they didn’t- I asked back then why they didn’t when I was at Ford nationals one year and that was the reason!
V6 boosted for handling v8 and or boosted for drag racing
If they go through with the mustang based sedan, they should make it the flagship Lincoln and give it the ecoboost from the raptor
@@mavrick351 The EcoBoost version of the Cyclone weighs about 50 lbs more than a Coyote.
ramon tubbs like that small amount of weight really makes a difference in the handling. Tires and suspension will make the real difference.
We love the 3.7 which is why we have one at the shop and tune so many of them! They are great!
I eish i could get my 3.7 tuned by you guys so i can get your AMR swag
Gonna be getting one of your rear mount turbo kit very shortly, buying a Mustang from my late cousin in law and she would have loved to have 400+ hp in it
I think the ATS V coupe is really the modern grand national
FZJ802 well said!
Since you know its a gm product and not a dookie ford lol
Oh yeah man i agree thats a bad ass car wish i could afford one
I would trade my 2013 550i msport on one and that's a V8 twin turbo
Damien Washington - how many people did government motors lay off ??
This thing was surprisingly fun!
What do you guys think?
I have this same motor in my 2012 cx9 you think of bolted one of these on will the fwd system last 😂
That sounds like an nice economic option.... Do you have to re tune the car when you buy and bolt on a super charger kit like that? Or could I just buy one and bolt it on?
ThatDudeinBlue love the sleeper status of it and I might do this
It does sound like a VQ. So weird but cool
David we gotta talk you are full on stealing ideas out of my head i literally spent most of the day at work yestday realizing thid same thing that the 2014 v6 mistang is the modern grand national and its amazing weird how close the specs are also i found the ford taurus sho a few days before you made the video keep up the awesome work dude #smilespergallon
Ecoboost and Cyclone stangs are lighter with better weight bias cheaper to buy cheaper to insure, but still full aftermarket support. Good daily drivers & sleepers.
Sleeper mustang?
Cyclones do not have full aftermarket support.
@@LeikkLeikk Yes, they do. Lmao.
I drove a FBO 3.7 for around 3 years. Please tell me more.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to think so. I like to preach about the cheaper insurance and overall cost of ownership with the V6's.
I saw a kid driving his 2005-09 S197 V6 Mustang (not sure what year exactly) and no joke he had GT500 lower side stripes, Shelby trunk lettering, Cobra emblems and to top it off the faux Bullitt center gas cap. No body kit or ground effects or anything and it still had a single exhaust pipe sticking out the back.
If he went to plano senior and it was blue with 2 white stripes down it I raced and beat him in my 2006 charger
What color was it? Be specific. I know a guy that did the same thing but it was a light blue.
nah no thnx the car I’m talking about was red. I’ve seen several base Mustangs with different badges and stickers on them like 5.0 badges or something. It’s hilarious.
@@nahnothnx4608 the one I'm talking about was light blue but not like sky or anything and it had a shelby sticker in the front windshield
@@bumhunt9590 oh I'm not in Plano so I didn't think it was that one lol
For all v6ers who want a better exhaust- do the full exhaust set up: Headers, x or h pipe, and any ford exhaust for ex. Roush
The best exhaust for a v6 is playing a v8 exhaust through the speakers
m1abrams 1776 not gonna act like I’ve never done that before🤷🏾♂️😂
@@RestrictedHades Sounds better than the 2.3..
An h pipe and some flow master outlaws sound pretty good also.
Borla
The V6 really grew on me with what its capable of. Even now that i can afford 5.0 payments i wouldnt trade in my little 6 for it
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The 3.7s can actually sound pretty good too. Kind of like a less raspy 350Z. I think it’s pretty sweet. Probably has a lot better weight distribution too.
If they would’ve put this v6 in a different body and called it something else AND made it an affordable car they would’ve had a a nice entry level sports car
I think the V6 always sells out the V8 though so that would be a huge hit to their sales. A lot of dads and "Chads" wanna buy these cars to look cool and dont care about the actual power so financially it wouldn't work for any of the muscle cars
Marcos Aruca it’s called a taurus sho
@@BaioWithMayo thats not really a sports car although i do like the sho...i also like naturally aspirated although this v6 in particular is very kool
These cars are very affordable once they drive off the lot easily attainable at 16-18k
Fusion sport ( not a sports car but twin turbo v6)
I have a 2015 Procharger V6 mustang as well and i absolutely love mine. It is an automatic but that gives me a big advantage when it comes to racing down in Mexico, also its fun to see the look on 5.0 owners after racing them because most people are truly shocked at what a boosted V6 is capable of.
I LOVE my 3.7, which some people don't understand because of the whole "coulda had a V8" mentality in the Mustang community. That's why I love your channel, you actually give things a fair shot and focus more on the strengths of the 3.7 than weaknesses. Keep up the good work man!
Garrett Lane you’re a pussy for buying a v6
Whitebeard my v6 walls 5.0s
Ya I had owned a 5.0 and a 3.7 and the 3.7 was honestly a fun car! People overlook it because of the V8 and the fact that a true muscle car should have a v8 but honestly if you can just overlook that one judgment then the V6 is actually a really fun car!
PappyOmar your procharged v6 walls stock 5.0s
Orange County who said I was procharged??
If you are ever in the Phoenix area I will throw you the keys to my 647whp 3.7 Mustang.
Mark Canchola whats your setup?
Bullshit ill still beat you with 580 wheel in my V8...
Im in L.A but i got a House in Laughlin over there in Arizona👀
You running low tens in that fancy v8? Thats the only way you'll stand a chance Saleen
Same horsepower number as the Ford GT. Nice one.
having driven a boosted 3.7 mustang and owning a 4.0 mustang i would say that it is a lot of fun in those cars because most people dont see it coming when you hit it. it is a lot of fun being different. at the same time i do wish i would have started with a GT being that i could be making a lot more power with the extra two cylinders. nice video david! hope to meet you one day.
I love when people do stuff like this ..
There’s this eco boost mustang that’s always outside of my school, literally this guy has every decal on it. It also has fake rtr grill lights or whatever. And guess what, glued on 5.0 badges. It’s pretty funny.
The biggest difference, and an important one, is that the grand national was a high performance version of a plain-jane car. Half of the legacy is that it was a sinister sleeper from the factory. Given that the v6 mustang ( and camaro, and challenger) are cars where a much higher performance version is available, they don’t have a sleeper effect. Its a platform built for more power, rather than a platform built for far less. Thats not to rag on boosted v6’s, but rather to say the comparison doesn’t work for me.
The true modern grand national is the 3800 w-body. Same base engine thats modernized and some come factory supercharged so the engine can handle a turbo well. Some people build them and theyre great sleepers.
Hey david loved this one! Your review are lit as always but i noticed that views are going down and i remember that in an another video you mentioned that views are going very down and as your fan i want to suggest you to do more pov stuff with smurff and more action in general. I mean this trend is going on on every channel that it's not "commercial" in a sense and as a 2 years viewer i feel like your channel is one of the realest out here and you and alejandra are a very nice guys. Just wanted to share this thought with you man!! Sending love from italy!! Have a nice day every one😎😎
The point you made about not spinning is one reason why I’ve won so many races in the two v6 mustangs I’ve had. I’ve beaten 4.6 and 5.0s in my 4.0 and 3.7 cause they always spin and the v6 always gets 100% of its power down every time
I’m scared of the comments that’s about to flood in lol
This has easily become wanna of my favorite review you’ve done in a while. Title is fitting
This edit is the same as your older ones! I love it!
I remember when these newer V6s came out. I was very impressed how quick for a stock V6. These put Mustang v6 ownership in a whole new level of performance. So did the coyote.. :)
okay now review my Grand National for comparison 😁
Great video. You can tell you enjoyed and actually had fun in this car.
Yeah, the whole "Muh v8" mentality is really cancerous in the Mustang community. People always sleep on the 3.7 and 2.3 and underestimate their potential.
Adam Cooper only something a v6 owner would say…
@@holmieg3435 Yeah you either cheap out honestly and go for 2.3 or take the V8. V6 is that annoying middle child
Are you a man or not who the fuck buys a v6 if not for a family car.
Not cancerous but more so a stupid mentality. I personally would have no problem with a V6, especially in manual. People just want power, as if they are really going to drag race it...
If you have the cash to buy any of them, which do you pick? Nothing cancerous about preferring the v8.
400HP is pretty damn respectable, regardless of displacement or number of cylinders. Very cool car! And I love the 3.7 emblem. Let them know that they were beat by a V6! LOL.
The v6 with pro charger is pretty dang dope.
Thanks for the fun day David, video turned out great! Funny as hell to see my car on the UA-cams
Dillon Jett how much boost and whp are you pushing?
Been waiting for this
The 3.7 was a great V6. The problem is that by the time Ford got around to making it, it was too little too late. The V6 was already shadowed and stigmatized by the bad reputation of the 3.8 and 4.0 motors.
As an owner of a procharged 3.8 Id love to try the 3.7 boosted. The Ford 3.8, though a shit motor, was a better copy of the Buick design.
nitrous36 do a video about your procharged 3.8
@@FerRod2113 I would like and have thought about. As well as videoing one of my other cars. But I dont have a camera and would want to film something better than low quality cell phone video.
First! star power to defend against blue shells
I was so excited when I saw David drag race that V6 at l'Autodrome St-Eustache at the beginning of the vid
I just put a ProCharger in my 2016 cyclone. With sport springs, full exhaust, and a dyno tune, it's truly a speedy little beast. I love driving it!
Someone in the Usa Needs to Experience a 4.0L Barra from the Xr6 Turbo in Australia in a Mustang ;)
Now that my '18 GT is in the garage until Spring, I'm enjoying my new 400hp MKZ which is freakishly fast! I would love to own a V6 SC/Turbo Mustang.
KlipschHead281 don’t be one of those people that puts a daily driver away for winter smh
@@ethanpapa3585 - Don't be one of those people?!? Dude, I'll be whatever I wish, I have no wish to drive my summer toy in the winter, I have a daily driver for winter use. During the winter if there is a nice day and no salt on the road, the Mustang goes out to stretch her legs, the way I like it. Don't be one of those people that tells others what they should do with their cars.
KlipschHead281 I’m just saying a mustang is not anything special to keep away. My opinion tho you do you man.
@@ethanpapa3585 - The Mustang isn't that special?? Why isn't it? It's special to me and millions of other people who don't daily them. I can't think of another car that I would prefer to take up garage space except the GT500 or a Super Snake.
KlipschHead281 I mean it’s the price of a normal every day car🤷♂️ it might have sentimental value but it’s not a very special car
I have a 2011 GT (2 cats, no mufflers). Really love the sound of that, but the boosted V6 in this video is really nice! It sounds almost exotic. The 3.7 has a governor that stops the fun at 115mph due to the driveshaft. With ~500 hp on tap, I would suggest a installing stronger driveshaft.
You can tell you were having a blast. I am still thinking TT mine. They are both good options. I would love to drive this car too see what it feels like
I own a 2012 Mustang V6 and would love to boost it
You think you can find somebody that has an early 80s Ford Mustang GT Turbo I've always wanted to see you review one just to get your perspective
Foxbodies are always cool no matter what model thats why i own two lol
@@carsandquads7253 you have a factory turbo model?
@@maxxas5067 No such thing as a factory GT with a turbo. You're thinking of an SVO.
@@Sheehy223 yea that car. I couldn't remember exactly what it was called.
There were some turbo 2.3 Mustang Cob ras in the very early 80's before the SVO, but yeah not GT's. I recall some Mustang magazines putting underhood Paxton blowers on 82-84 GT's to get near 300 hp. Thought it couldn't get any better.
Awesome video!!!
Was pleasantly surprised how good that thing sounds! Def RAD!
Love my 3.7 stang as long as we smoking them Honda’s and keeping the mustang rep good then it’s all good 🤷🏽♂️ mustang is a mustang
S197_MAX 🙌🙌🙌🙌 preach it
Good to see another boosted 3.7. At some point need to drive mine to you to do a review. Maybe in the summer when theres actually traction. Lol
Awesome video cant wait to see Johnathan harders coyote swap mustang review
I actually have a '12 model 3.7 Stang and I was planning on putting on a procharger like the one you were driving. I just have to replace the driveshaft because I hear they do weird things at the 120+ mph zone.
they fuckin explode. please please get a one piece alum. You will not regret it if you plan on taking the gov off at any point
Do they make a eco boost v6 twin turbo for the mustang like the SHO Taurus? If they don't then they should. If they did they would have a problem with ppl buying them and just tuning them to walk the 5.0. I would buy it bc you could make decent power and it would be alot less on your wallet.
Love the creative content
I drive a bolt on tuned 2017 GT and my previous car was a 2011 v6 mustang with a procharger pushing about 430 to the wheel. The power delivery is very very similar but the biggest difference is v6 mustangs feel extremely light compared to the V8. You could really fling the v6 around especially because I had a full suspension.
I could only afford the v6 and I'm planning on saving 4 a supeecharger
I've seen a '15 3.7 that sounds exactly like a 370z. So dope
I follow a guy who has a 10 second v6 mustang turbo set up. Sick.
I love the being different and doing something from the norm.
Update on the 240 drift car please!!!
Before you said supercharger I thought it was turboed
Theres some crazy v6 builds out here pushing BIG numbers
I love my 3.7. They are underrated
The Mustang is nice.
Hi David
The 6th gen v6 pony cars are hidden gems man. The cyclone mustang, and the lgx v6 Camaro are both fun cars.
Great work David!!! Really enjoy the affordable builds or maybe I am just envious? I got a 2015 Roush RS with the 3.7. Been wanting to do the turbo or Procharger. But, it’s hard to justify spending all that cash for the boost on a car that has depreciated so much. If they would lower the kit cost and there will be more out there on the road.
Keep up the excellent reviews!
Okay but if you know anything about these cars, you have a buy an 800$ one piece driveshaft. If you don’t do that do not go over 115
been 160+ on on my factory two piece just fine multiple times
in my GT, assuming it has the same driveshaft as the V6
@@QuickF90 The v6 driveshaft is considered an economy driveshaft. They actually can't withstand the same speeds of a GT driveshaft. I've heard of a couple instances where a v6 shaft detonated when the driver went over 120-125, before that they said they heard a very loud vibration too.
Alex James why are you trying to go over 115 anyway, I wouldn’t trust any car in the same price range stock to push over 110
@@blackairforceones9075
Because it can?
Well my dad owns an 86 Buick grand national and a 91 gmc syclone, I own an 87 Buick Regal Turbo t 👍🏽nice mustang though.
A buddy of mine back in the day outran 2 IROC State cops in his Syclone. That truck was fucking nuts.
I talked to you once in the comment section of your mustang week 2014 video asking for more content like it, but you told me that people don't want to see those kinds of videos. But look now.
You have skills in videography. Show them off. If you feel stuck inside perhaps you should focus on what you did best in the first place.
It All comes down to anything that can go fast . . . What interest , and what are you willing to have Fun .
It almost sounds like a GTR on the inside when you floor it.
Don’t ever disrespect a Grand National like that again.
True
Facts
He has a point tho
But the cyclone is such a good engine
Grand nationals are the equivalent of a 57 year old trailer park queen with a 3 pack a day habit and a solid lady mustache
It was great meeting you in Richmond a month ago!
I had purchased an 05 4L after rolling an 89 5.0 hatch. I purchased it because I was young and my parents were scared of me having the GT after rolling my last car. (Little back story; I rolled the car after pulling it out of storage and the next day it was freezing rain) back to the point I still have that car and had alot of fun with it when it was new. I've never had to do anything major mechanically and believe it or not it was faster then my my fox 5.0 and some of the stock fox 5.0s on the street due to mostly their power loss in age. I am fixing up that car and preping it for a shelby power train swap but that 4L treated me good even though I still beat the shit out of it.
V6 life
i wonder if ford will ever make an fwd inline 4 mustang
That's called the probe
I hope not LOL
Pony cars are not FWD lmao.. that’s why they make the focus
@@jakethesnake121394 did make the focus. Not anymore
Unknown reaper yeah not many people want a FWD 4 cylinder car from a company that is famous for muscle cars
I like!! Awesome build
I know this thread is old already, but I just came across it. So @ThatDudeinBlue I just wanted to say thanks for this. I have a '12 Cyclone and have long debated what to do with it. Unfortunately I can nowhere near afford a Procharger, but that's my goal. AM has some good stuff and when I'm able to drop about 8 large I'm going all in. Again thanks.
Hell no, you cant even put Mustang and Grand National in the same class. Never disrespect a Grand National like that 🤣🤣
Badguyred Well mustangs are still around.. So which car is better?
I bet you didnt even watch the video before saying that
@@seangreenz420 so are Buick regals which the Grand National was a package of, so what's your point
@@prestonsaunders8056 I sure did. That has nothing to do with my opinion on the title of this video though
Badguyred 😂
I'm not even watching the video. GN is in a league of its own. When somebody builds a common family car into something that is quicker than every American car and almost every car in the world at the time, then we'll talk.
Robert Hull the disrespect is real😂
Your effort to comment will never be forgotten
Challenger Hellcat??? Ok next
Challenger Hellcat, Charger Hellcat, 2011-201? Chevy SS, Taurus sho.
It's a common formula for manufacturers to play around with, there's nothing special about the GN besides GM somehow building a not-shit car in the 80's.
@@Daniel-lv8ze you forgot that the GNX was the first to champion that notion to make cars that are faster than just about anything out of a family car.. Not Dodge (even though that's my company), Not Chevy, Not even Ford.. *_Buick did this and without a V8 either.._*
This mustang slapps, it sounds wonderful
I like the weird engines on normal tuner scene cars.thanks David
The 3.7L deserves more respect!!!! If you like anything 3V 4.6L V8's and before, you should like the 3.7L.
No you shouldn't. Because it sounds like trash and it's not a V8.
@@rhull3939 The old "It's not a V8, it sounds bad" saying. It's comical. The 3.7 hurts a lot of feelings lol.
Usually sayings get old because they're correct.
@@GOPACKERSJT I mean it's kinda true. The 3.7 sounds like complete ass and lacks low powerband torque like the 3 valve.
But a 3.7 will pull to a higher redline very nicely. Still down on tq but does better uptop.
No it’s a boosted v6 mustang.
What
^ lol exactly
Josue Aguilar He’s answering the title of the video dipshit
invinciblejets that vert fc, you might be a heavy girl but your ass nice 😍😍🤤
In my city here in Alberta Canada there’s a boosted 2005 V6 mustang and he can spin in third gear. It actually sounds nice too
Good video, those V6’s are good. It’ll be interesting to see your review of John’s car, no heat lol.
No, next question
Bro I've been watching you for about 5 years, and I hate to say this but you need to reinvent your channel. I feel bad seeing you not getting the views vs the ratio to the amount of subscribers you have. Tommyfyeah gets comparable views to you with about 800,000 less subscribers. I'm just merely suggesting you do something different, maybe like a daily vlog, working on new builds in those vlogs, just something different. Love yah man just wanna see you get the views I know that are there.
I would love to see him go back to daily vlog
I like the description. Modern day Grand National.
Great video & review TDiB!
I can see where it would be a blast to own and drive.
How much power can the stock 3.7 engine handle?
Just get a V8
What people don't realize is that the V6's value is going to tank worse than the V8. Doesn't matter whether you boost it or not you're wasting money and depreciation/appreciation will never be good on a V6 Mustang.
Leonardo’s Videos why, ppl are pushing over 600whp on turbos with stock internals, everyone hates on the 3.7 till they get walked by one
@@blackairforceones9075 im not saying they are bad cars bro. But not everyone has the money to boost a v6. People who buy v6 and boost em do it for the Giggles cause they got a v8 or have something faster than a Coyote. Im just saying if you want to go fast and are in a budget get a v8
I mean that's fair. I had a tti turbo 98 z28. Sold it in preparation for a move. Had the 3.7 as a daily I had done a few mods to. Then decided why not let's boost the v6 mustang lol.
@@leonardo179_ not always do people have money for a V8 either tho.. I don't think most people take that into consideration.. Either that or the V8 is just a lil too much for them so they get the next best thing which happens to be better for them because it's better for everyday use with gas mileage, and such of the latter
*watched from inside my Coyote
Mmm'nope, still not a V8
I have a modded GT 2017 right now but had a 2011 v6 with a procharger and I honestly think my old v6 would beat my new car. I definitely beat plenty of coyotes back when I had it.
V8s just give that satisfaction that v6 can’t supply
@@holmieg3435 yeah I thought that. But boost and a dumped wastegate changed my mind. And that's coming from someone who owned a turbo ls1 car.
You’re so cool, so so cool
Love the commentary as per usual and always dig the car content... but please don’t disrespect the grand national 🙏🏼
Nice review
A V6 IS NOT A
MUSCLE CAR
You're right, doesn't stop it from being awesome.
Nothing is muscle car these days you dork.
yeah, but its a rly cool sleeper tho
@@witchityman7148 pretty sure the Challenger is a muscle car.
*_pony car_*
"Or do you want to be unique and beat the v8?" How about if you want to do that get an ACTUAL V6 like a Genesis (350 hp stock) or any v6 other than a MUSCLE CAR... V6's are NOT Muscle cars!!👎🌈🌈
But then you're not different. Everyone expects 6 cylinders to be in European or Japanese vehicles. People want to be different, unexpected, and proven. That's why lots of people are making sleeper 6 Mustangs now.
A genesis won’t beat a coyote though
@@JOE5oo5 well obviously.. Why are u comparing the V6 Geni to the 5.0?? Compare it to the V6 mustang..of course the GT is faster than a V6..😑😑
Saleen Mustang and if you’re going to be a v6 sports car buy a Z
The genesis is a piece of trash. Get a 350z(hr, if you know you know 😘), do full bolt on's, acquire driver mod, gap stock coyotes.
I dont mind the 4.0, I really like it because of its sound and the look of the older mustangs...and thats it
I like how hes giving v6s a chance. Im getting a v6 for a few reasons mostly because im only 19 and insurance would hang me out to dry for owning a v6, i plan on driving this car daily, and i am a little worried about having gas money on hand for a v8 but not a v6. I mean someday i do plan on upgrading to a v8 maybe in my late 20s but for now a v6 will be more than good enough especially with aftermarket items
Sounds great for someone new to performance cars who wants to have fun without killing themselves
I had one just like this except it was a Premium and it was absolutely fantastic. Just enough power to hoon and the engine sounds great when you rev it out. Cheap to buy and cheap to mod too. I did Air raid intake, MBR Exhaust, MPT Tune, and Steeda springs all for like $1500. The problem isn't that the cyclone cars are bad, it's that the GT is just better in every way. And these days an S197 GT is really not that much more than a 3.7. If I had some extra cash I'd pick up an early S550 3.7 to hoon on backroads and a '19 GT to actually build.
One thing is for certain though, no one should buy an Ecoboost Mustang under any circumstances.
I have a lot of fun with my stock 13 3.7, but would love to boost it just to surprise people even more than I already do.
I drive a 87 Grand National with some bolt ons and a chip. Maybe I’ll let you drive it once I install a new trans. Your opinion may or may not change. You’ll love the old school boosted automatic V6. Never loses boost between gear changes lol.
I have always found different varieties of Mustangs interesting, and my dad has actually thought of buying a V6 with a track pack, manual and the upgraded interior, and then have forced induction in it like the one in thos video, and just go have fun with it...