"FERRARI" EARLY REVIEW! | Film Threat Reviews
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- Chris Gore and Alan Ng review “Ferrari,” coming to theaters December 24.
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I thought Rush was a much better movie that had the right combination of action, drama, and humor. The relationship between the two drivers was also compelling.
Rush is a fantastic movie. I rewatched recently and it is so much better than recent movies.
@@solarydays it really does
I recall Niki Lauda himself saying that the movie was pretty accurate. High praise indeed.
Except Rush had two unlikable characters as its subject.
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat They're both somewhat complex characters: James Hunt is an anti-authoritarian womaniser who has his wife leave him due to his self-destructive behaviour and ends up having to reluctantly sell out to sponsors in order to win the championship, and Niki Lauda is a cold, calculating workaholic who survives a horrific and life-changing accident and realises that his relationship with his wife is important enough for him to give up a chance at a championship. So they both have major flaws to their personalities, but that's what makes them interesting and vulnerable. I also love how blunt Niki is, and how playful James is. They play off of each other fantastically well, and having them start off disliking each other and then eventually gradually coming to respect and stand up for one another is compelling to watch.
Characters that never do anything challenging or unlikeable to the audience tend not to create much drama or tension; you always know what they're gonna do. In the case of Rush, if you made it truer to real-life and had James and Niki start off as both incredibly likeable guys who get along, then you'd have to find a completely different angle that's perhaps less organic to the real life story, because the conflict would have to come from elsewhere. (I.E. Ford V Ferrari, where the Ford execs and corporate culture are the main source of conflict for Ken Miles/Carroll Shelby; it's Leo Beebe who is portrayed as the antagonist; that fits the story better rather than having the main conflict be Miles and Shelby; even when they fight in the film it's an extension of the conflict with Ford.)
If you want a melodramatic film with great racing footage throughout, watch 1966's "Grand Prix". It's a soap opera but has a solid cast and racing footage that was filmed during actual grands prix.
The racing footage in that movie is some of the best put to film imo. It really conveys the speed and the danger really well and you can actually see how sloped the turns on. Not to mention you see up close and personal how those guys were riding around in metal tubes with steering wheels
%100. Grand Prix told a great story of the driver’s life.
FordvsFerrari and Gran Turismo are peak modern racing films
Come on, this is not a race movie it's a movie about a particular time of Enzo's life. Very easy to tell what kind of movie it's going to be from the trailers. Looking forward to some depth.
The trailer made no promises, but the premise did. Imagine a film about Elon Musk. What's to be expected? PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter? Now imagine that movie is actually about Elon's friendship with his accountant. That's it. Everything else is just noise in the background. It might be true, but that's not Elon's legend. That's not the film anyone cares to see. Mann betrayed the "promise of the premise" and disappointed his audience, of who many of us trusted on reputation alone.
No interest in this one. Saw Ford v Ferrari in 4DX tho and that was really fun. Racing or flying movies are good in that format.
One hour in and he is having an affair and he has lost his oldest son. But there is not enough racing, which he loved, and too much drama. Sorry it was too slow. Adam Driver played Gucci and Ferrari ! Michael Mann has a minimalist approach which is sometimes crisp other times it’s too dry.
The movie, like Driver, is extremely Olive Garden.
Agreed but I think you may be too kind. I really wanted to like it but was very disappointed.
Couldn't the same thing be said about Oppenheimer? Most people want a movie focused on the bomb, and meanwhile we got a melodrama about the man's life. Didn't mean it wasn't a good movie. I hope that I like it because I love Michael Mann's directing and storytelling style.
True, nolan dickriding is crazy…
Yeah, melodrama surrounding his psyche about building the bomb. I thought the writing and pacing in Ferrari was really poor. Oppenheimer on the other hand had me engaged the entire runtime.
@@123rockfan Correct. "Oppenheimer" gives us a window into the man's thinking and the influences that weighed on him. It contemplates on the morality and necessity of introducing such destructive power; the irony of "saving" the world by making it so much more fragile. A gripping character study, for certain. Mann's "Ferrari" is only incidentally a movie about Ferrari, which exploits the brand and its legend to sell us a domestic melodrama that's neither uncommon or unique.
Ah, now eventually you do plan to have dinosaurs on your dinosaur tour, right?
*Thank you!* 🤣
The accent thing is sort've damned if you and if you don't. I think that a Hunt for Red October style is best where it changes from the original language to another or do it like Valkyrie where they don't even mention it and do it in plain English.
The American dream for any country! Loving wife, quality mistress, and fast cars! 😂
This is deserve a discussion with Paul Chatoo since there's mechanical story potential
Sounds like another House of Gucci with Italian accents while speaking English.
I was thinking the same 15 minutes into the movie and couldn't shake it off. Really disappointed.
Captain Corelli's Mandolin Nic Cage accent.
I went to a soap opera and near the end a race broke out.
Exactly. Such a disjointed movie, both in focus and tonality. Hard to believe Micheal Mann had anything to do with it.
What was the last great Michael Mann movie? I didn't like Public Enemies, Miami Vice movie. Can't remember any others in the last twenty years.
My vote would be for Collateral, which JUST barely makes it within the last twenty years.
He made 3 movies barely only in last twenty years
The director’s cut of Miami Vice is spectacular.
Last 20 years? None. 70's to early 80's he had it going on.
So that really awkward shot in the trailer of the car flipping into the camera didn’t look any better? Damn. I still want to see it but I will temper my expectations. Thanks Chris!
This guys reviews is so off, slowish development but decent, he doesn't have 2 relationships.... I don't think he actually watched it
I hope it's better than the recent film about Ferruccio Lamborghini with Frank Grillo. I like Frank and I've had a 45 year love affair with Lambo, but man, that film was a bag of shite!
I don't understand why they don't do crashes with practical effects by making replicas
two reasons: cost, and safety. the latter is the more important of the two. cheers.
@themittonmethod1243 lol how many cars get crashed in other movies, lots of them
Why was my comment removed????? I said nothing that could be taken the wrong way even. It was totally benign.
Why do they gotta drag a dead man’s name, we don’t need to know his drama to make his life look cooler in a film. The man had plenty to go off without the bastard child story line
Opening description wrong just walked out
Lost his son in the war then had an affair had a child then was pretty much astranged from his wife and had a full life with young child and mistress.... did you really even watch it? I can literally tell by the way you are describing the film you didn't watch it 😂 or you might be mentally challenged
I loved it… when you realise that Ferrari was doing all of this for his young son… it wasn’t about thr cars it was about family
That flying Ferrari scene, tho 😱
Yeah I still can't wrap my head around the guy who made automatic gunfire LOUD in Heat because automatic gunfire is LOUD, also thinks that Gran Turismo 4's collision and takeoff physics were what to use.
I've watched racing for 36 years, seen many accidents, several deaths live & via TV and many take off accidents. Cars don't fly like that from hitting objects unless they are flat-bottomed and even then it's rare.
Cars don't bounce off much, they especially don't bounce off telephone poles....
The CG flying cars (and it happened twice!) were truly awful.
As was the editing. Particularly into the mountains where 6 cars running nose-to-tail becomes 2,with no other vehicle in sight. Appalling editing/continuity.
Made Le Mans 66 / Ford vs Ferrari look competent in comparison. At least the sound in this was much better than FvF/LM66 (racing cars are also loud, much too loud to have a chat between drivers in different cars, Mangold...) and the cars actually speed up towards the end, instead of looking like they're going about 80, max, which they do in the pre-Rome racing scenes.
Howard, McQueen & Frankenheimer have all done it so much better.
Chef Boyardi ( isn’t that an American microwave food brand)
The real Chef Boy-Ar-Dee was Ettore (later Hector) Boiardi (accent on the second syllable) and he was really Italian and that’s really he in the earlier television commercials. So sounding like Boiardi isn’t completely absurd.
To me, he doesn’t sound ridiculous in the commercials. I’m sure there are some real ones on UA-cam so I’ll watch them again (I haven’t in years). Maybe I’m forgetting and he does sound a bit hammy and self-parodying.
EDIT: there’s a 1953 commercial on UA-cam. The chef isn’t playing up his own accent as far as I can tell. Maybe in later years he slipped into self-parody, but at least in 1953 he just sounds like an Italian who’s picked up English over the years, a little nervous. Which of course wouldn’t completely work for portraying an Italian supposedly speaking Italian, either.
Michael Mann is great at action but not at the dramatic elements of his current films beginning with Public Enemies.
Yeah and it’s crazy how the 10 minute diner scene in Thief is way more interesting than anything in Ferrari. I think the writing and pacing is just really poor in this
Rush was a better racing movie starring Chris Hemsworth from 2014.
What the hell my comments keep getting taken down??? What is going on????
I almost went to this screening you describe, but the Michael Mann fan who I wanted to attend couldn't so I decided to skip this film. Michael Mann's last great directorial effort was Collateral and the trailer for this was underwhelming.
Why couldn't they attend? I've dropped so many other things, especially work, to attend special events. I invited someone to such an event, and they turned it down because they "had" to work. They were fired not long after and I never let them forget the experience they gave up for a few miserable dollars. The chance to meet my favorite film director face-to-face? C'mon.
Their vehicle couldn't drive due to a part and they lived way outside of town. Life happens.@@MisterMonsieur
Not a fan of Adam Driver at all, so I guess this is a big pass for me, even with Shailene Woodley in it.
True professionals
this reminds me of Lamborghini movie, which i found very disappointing
There were racing scenes in the movie. One of the two crashes was from a race.
Look if you wasn’t to know about the man…. Go see the film… if your expecting a car racing film) go see a doco
Review Animal bollywood movie its a great movie
want to see racing? go to a track.
I really don't care, I still want to see it. Even if the family drama is overdone, perhaps it had an impact on how he ran his company etc...
The bad crash you mentioned, was it the one with Nikki Lauda in 1976? That was shown in Rush.
It was 1957. The 1,000 mile Italian road race. 9 spectators were killed and Alfonso de Portago was behind the wheel.
That was the most graphic crash scene I’ve ever seen portrayed in a movie.
@@newmanboomin5291 OK, thanks
@@newmanboomin5291I suggest you need to watch Grand Prix (1966). It's fantastic.
I liked the acting but the story was not my cup of tea. Could have made a movie about someone's love of making cars. Instead they made me dislike the main character.
Correct. Mann betrayed the "promise of the premise" and disappointed his audience. Imagine a film about Elon Musk. Now imagine that movie is actually about Elon's friendship with his accountant. That's it. PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter? All that is just noise in the background. It might be true, but that's not Elon's legend. That's not the film anyone cares to see. That's the mistake Mann made.
Chris Given how much you liked RRR if possible go watch the bollywood movie animal if its playing nearby.
Its almost like Ferrari a prequel to Ford v Ferrari
Well that's the thing about real life....
It does directly lead into those events though, for sure.
One could watch this, then that, then Grand Prix, then Le Mans, then Rush and have much of the Ferrari racing story, from 1957-1977 within those films (excluding the comedy of 72-73 where they failed so badly they didn't even go to all the Grands Prix)
Hallmark movie? They are cheesy. This wasn’t cheesy.
I saw it opening day. I am very disappointed. I really love Michael Mann's films from the 70's to 90's. But with this, a swing and a miss. The acting was very mundane, one doesn't empathize with the characters. Even Penelope's portrayal isn't engaging. How did the story fall so flat? This is no "Ford v Ferrari" storytelling. And the CGI crash sequences are laughably bad, how did Mann approve of them is a mystery to me. I really, really wanted to like this movie. But I cannot recommend it.
It's sad that biopics today all teeter on parody. "Ford v Ferrari" stands exceptional among so many misfires as of late.
If Adam Driver is in it, it’s gunna suck. It’s a rule.
Hahahahah😂😂😂😂😂
Was so hoping it would be great. UNWATCHABLE. EMBARRASSING.
Adam is playing another Italian?? (Gucci was the other one). Can't they cast real Italians?
I don't think even Ferrari owners would enjoy this film. 👎
I really need to start reviewing movies so people dont get bs
You must not like this film because it has a strong female lead!!! Oh wait ….
"Where's the racing?"
Go watch Need for Speed or Redline then. You missed the point of the story if you wanted more focus on just the racing aspect.
Ha! Then explain how "Ford v Ferrari" was able to do both so exceptionally well? It humanized its characters, but it always brought it back to what people came to see. Just concede what so many already see themselves: Mann made a disjointed movie that neglects the promise of the trailer to serve up a rushed, disjointed drama. Focusing on the domestic drama -- which is neither unique nor uncommon -- makes this movie only incidentally about Ferrari. It forgot the "promise of the premise," which is always a mistake. Imagine a film about Elon Musk that's actually about his friendship with his accountant. It might be true, but that's not his legend, that's not the film anyone cares to see!
No thanks.
This guy js spoiled the movie
This movie was a great. I went into knowing nothing but the name and the car. But it was so cool to know nothing going in for once. It looks great the acting is great. Mann would have made a great looking Godfather movie.
This was an awful film
Lol this isn't a movie about racing,its about enzo Ferrari. Also,comparing this to hallmark poop is really stupid
It's very immature of you to say that he has a bastard son when close to 55% of all women giving birth are not married..... That term was popular 60 years ago and maybe 50 years ago but not nowadays....
Exactly! This is offensive and I stopped watching this review immediately after I had heard it twice..
Pfft. So we're supposed to sugar-coat it because 55% (allegedly) make the same mistake? Sounds like three scoops of cope. As a child born out of wedlock, the facts are the facts. Take the facts for what they are and move on. 🙄
Enough with the racing movies already
Enough with the racing movies already