Willi Reschke, Mustang P-51, Focke Wulf 190, Me 109
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Part 1.
Willi Reschke tells of his experience as a pilot in JG 301/ JG 302. He compares the Focke Wulf 190 and Messerschmitt Bf 109 with the WW2-Fighter Mustang P-51. (sub title)
He was among 2000 of 20000 pilots who survived ww2. R.I.P
Incredible to see and listen to a man who survived so many battles, which during those years, day after day, took flight to fight against an insulting enemy numerical superiority and one with that emerge victorious! that's why they are the best pilots in history, my greatest respect to you Mr. Reschke, Rip!
And when the Germans were diving-bombing polish cities
That was ok
No they deserved to be shot out of the sky
I'm American and my favorite plane is the Dora. My God that fighter is a work of art. My second favorite is the aircobra.
Tank with the Dora had the chance to increase wing area Even a slight increase would have been an improvement in turning and help with high speed stalls But it was not undertaken
The best and the worst 😂
Love how he refers to it as a pity he never got to test his TA152 against a Mustang
danke für das Interview, ich habe das Buch von Hr. Reschke.
Es aht ein sehr gutes Gedächtniss, danke.
Man merkt deutlich wenn jemand in der DDR gelebt hat und bescheiden gebleiben ist. Interessant seine Aussage zu der schnellen scharfen lead turn der Mustang die dann je länger sie kurvte schnell an Energie und Geschwindigkeit verlor wegen dem Gewicht.
Wow!
Was für ein unglaublich interessantes Video!
Vielen lieben Dank dafür.
...Danke!
Makes sense, a quick first turn by the Mustang due to lighter stick forces, but once speed dropped the 109 turned significantly tighter, just as confirmed by pilots who've flown both. Even the 190 could turn better than the Mustang according most of the experienced 190 pilots, esp. at low altitudes.
I suspect we are seeing survivor bias. Reschke was exceptionally skilled and he lived because he was better than most German or Allied pilots and could get more out of an aircraft. A Fw 190D-9 with the high pressure water injection (not the low pressure version) at a narrow range of altitudes could probably match the Mustang. The Mustangs low wing loading and superb aerodynamics are hard to beat along with the two stage merlin. The Fw 190 D12/D13 with Jumo 213EB was expected to do 488 mph.
So, in modern terms, the P-51 was superior in the 1-turn, or angles fight; while the Bf.109 was superior in the 2-turn, or rate fight. The P-51 pilot would attempt to turn nose-to-nose, engaging in a scissors maneuver, until the 109 got kicked out in front. Keeping up speed would enhance his advantage, due to the high stick forces on the 109 at higher speeds. The 109 pilot would turn nose to tail to get into a pursuit curve, trying to get the P-51 to bleed off energy, which would give a further advantage to the 109, whose stall speed was lower, due to its leading edge slats. But to do this, the 109 pilot had to fly his plane right on the ragged edge of the envelope, and by 1944, there weren't many German pilots who could do that.
20 to 1 and germany didnt realise that would be how the war would develope
@@StuartKoehl Yes. Lag pursuit and higher rate of turn versus lead pursuit and smaller radius of turn. Depending on the comparative performance of the airplanes, it is often better to fly a larger radius at a higher speed to retain energy for a higher rate of turn then use that retained energy to pull lead only to gain a good firing position.
Adolph Galland: "I am sure he had the thoughts, this is better than letting suicide. The chance to be killed in the last missions, the last ten missions, was very high. But we didn't pay much attention for it. In this conditions and in this time, to be killed was nothing, for us." Macky Steinhoff: "We were going to fight to the very end, having the good feeling that we have done something, we died, being a leader within the framework of, well, our responsibility as soldiers."
R.I.P Willi Reschke, 5.07.2017, Thüringen
you uneducated fuck should not be allowed to use my language
@@davidluiz8036 Wasn't expecting that 😂
Thank you for translating this...
Gracias por subir el video, muy instructivo, el análisis de Reschke es muy profesional. Saludos desde Chile.
Many People might not know this but, German fighter Pilots after the War went back to civilian life,and because of the War the hardship endured by all Germans was severe, in fact civilians chastised the Pilots because they didn’t shoot down all the Bombers!, so, there was no hero warship, respect, all for something they had no control over, maybe some should read “ A higher call” by Adam Makos/ Larry Alexander, in there you’ll read all of what these brave guys went through after the War.
Peter Cavellini what you are stating is correct but the sad truth was that the Luftwaffe was simply overwhelmed by sheer allied superiority, lack of fuel and expert pilots but it is also because of wrong decisions like producing the He 177 until early 1944 eating enormous precious resources of precious alloys, labor instead of producing more fighters since early 1943 or even before to defend Germany and much needed oil refineries and of course factories and it's cities with it's population. Maybe revamping up the production of fighters by a big margin would only make the war last longer but surely it would have made things much more difficult for the allies...
I agree about no hero worship. I learned from my in-laws -- the hospitals, the camps, imprisonment in France and Russia, hiding from the Soviets, rape, loss of homeland, deaths of children due to no medicine, working with a grievous open wound and grateful for a job, scurrying for cigarette butts the the British soldiers tossed away. Everyone was hurt and everyone was the butt of world opinion. The people who now glamorize war......
Because the masses are idiot rabble, even in the white population. Those same people that attacked the pilots would now be attacking German nationalists for trying to stop Germany being colonised.
Many Luftwaffe pilots who survived WW2 combat flying were killed in car accidents in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
Any chance for more snippets or the full interview please?
And who was the Father of the Mustang ?....... Edgar Schmued born 1898 in Hornbach Germany .........Greatings from good old Germany !....:)
It wasnt the airframe it was the Rolls Royce Merlin that made it.
@@DannyBoy777777
Of course, the Merlin was a very powerful engine, due to using higher octane gas an multi stage super charger, however:
1. The finish in the production of the Mustang was unique
2. The use of the laminar profile of the wing
caused lower drag
3. The jet cooler at the bottom of the fuselage of the Mustang, it was a German patent
from the German Aircraft designer "Hugo Junkers" from the 1920 s
That all significantly reduced air resistance or drag, (Sorry for my bad English ! )
This led to high cruising speeds BUT only in straight flight !
With larger Ca- values, i.e. "Angles of attack" to the wing profile, this advantage of the laminar profile was lost again !
One also speaks of the so-called "Laminar dent"
in the Ca - Cw diagram.
By the way, the Me 109 K4 and K6 had much better flight performance than the Mustang at the end of the war, her climbing rate was unmatched by allied fighters.
It is an incredible engineering feat what potential the Me 109 still had.
However, also using nitrous oxide and MW 50 injection.
And a lst word, I have respect for all aircraft manufacturers all over the world, they all did great things in airplane construction.
Never forget an aircraft is ALWAYS a compromise, there is no ideal aircraft.
@@stubi1103 Wrong. The Hawker Tempest rate of climb was 6,400 ft/min (1,951 m/min) the Bf 109K6 barely 5,000. The Spitfire Mk VIIIs reached a climb of 5,000 ft per minute in January 1943, over a year before the Bf 109K flew.
@@DannyBoy777777 Well I have other numbers because you have to be careful whether the planes had full set-up weight or only half a tank filling.
Comparability is then difficult.
The Tempest with its 24 cylinder H engine was also very strong, but it was also heavy.
Then it depends on the performance weight.
But what is it, then I call the Ta 152 as a high-altitude fighter by Professor KurtTank.
Be happy and grateful for Edgar Schmued!
What is this kindergarten, read what I wrote at the end.
@@stubi1103 Yes I know. The British term it AUW (All up weight). I can give you my sources. Taken from German, British wartime reports and cross referenced with postwar tests.
I tried a translation. Don't judge too hard, It is a rather free translation to catch the meanings of his statements instead of presenting a meniculous translation of the phrases:
Q: How were the odds shooting down a Mustang (P51 D) with a TA or an 190?
WR: Well, how to say? I think every single (pilot) will have a different opinion on that.
But to be clear, the Mustang was good (capable). You must not underestimate her.
She was fast, agile, just good.
She had one big advantage against every single of our…
Well, I haven't had a dogfight against a Mustang with the TA anymore. A pity. In hindsight I regret not having a direct comparison. But with the 109 / 190 I had plenty of dogfights with the Mustang.
The Mustang was capable of making a very quick first turn, i.e. the initial turn.
It happened that (inaudible) she was already almost behind you. Many (German) pilots lost their nerves and dived away, which finished them right away anyway.
But if you kept on turning, you got her eventually.
Q: Then you got her eventually?
WR: Then you got her eventually. And if you knew that, and all the old hands knew that, they managed to…
Q: With the 109 (ME 109)?
WR: With the 109, and also with the 190. With the 190 it's been even easier, because the Messer… 109… well, if you haven't had the muscles, your arms got tired. She (the ME 109) had a kind of a steering resistance (Steuerdruck = steering pressure). Sometimes you had to pull with both hands. You've got tired.
Q: (inaudible)
WR: No, that worked fine with both / two.
I mean, she was good indeed (the Mustang). But… that doesn't mean you need to be inadvertily…
I'd say, the biggest threat was the overwhelming number. That's it.
A single one alone… you don't need to be frightened of a Mustang.
(WR appear to consider this might sound like boasting)
(with a calming tone) I'm just telling this out of my own experience.
But certainly… they were always like 10 or occasionally 20 of them, that was an overwhelming force. That was the dreadful.
If you seeked one of ours… there was no one… But Mustangs were always there. You had plenty of them around you.
Allied pilots were told not to get in too turning dogfights.
Quantity has a quality of its very own! ---Joseph Stalin
Basically it was a war of attrition that brought the defeat of the Luftwaffe.
@soaringtractor, the USA out-produced everyone, especially with the homeland safe from the theatres of war.
If the USA was in the same position as the German, I doubt they would be able to out-train or out-fly anyone!
The USA was just lucky.
Try comparing apples to apples.
Never over estimate one's own ability.
The Luftwaffe is spread out over Russia/Eastern front, Germany home defense, Western front, Italian front and their being bomb daily plus they dont rotate their pilots out to train younger ones, whose training became worse and worse. Spread thin versus mounting numbers and yes WW2 was definitely a war of attrition.
Easier to teach a man to shoot a rifle than how to fly a world standard fighter and perform aerial acrobatics and to shoot from it.
Interesting remarks re numbers. That's pretty much my experience from years and years of online MP flight-simming flying almost exclusively LW-planes. When you're seriously outnumbered, it doesn't really matter how good you are or how good your plane is. If you commit to the fight with anything but high speed dives/slashing attacks, you'll probably get shot down. Bleed off just a little too much E and one of these guys will latch onto you and kill you.
Also interesting to hear his thoughts on the P-51's turn rate and initial turn vs sustained turns. I've yet to find a sim where a 190 (especially A-series 190s) can out-turn a P-51. Perhaps DCS models them like this, but I don't own the A-8 and haven't flown my D-9 in that game all that often.
i think Reschke must be wrong .....i fly combat sims for over 25 years now and all i can say is the Dora is a flying brick and cant turn at all ..... :-) :-)
You dare compare yourself flying sims to a ww2 REAL German ace? Either you meant to tell a joke, or you are s complete idiot.. btw, What Sim did you play 25 years ago? Some Arcade shooter?
@@fouadhoblos3611 What he ment was that the Doras in Flight Sims are Flying Bricks compared to the Pilot Reports who flew them. He is not completely right of course. But I remember the FW in Combat Sims of earlyer Days and they really handled like flying Bricks sometimes, but to be honest also a P-47 or P-51 did not handle well in tight Turns or when low on speed. Only the early 109's and Spitfires did turn pretty well at lower speeds. He cannot compare the Turnate of a Dora to the Turnrate of a Spitfire. One is a Turner the other is a Zoomer!
thats something i struggle with as well, the 190 doesnt feel competitive at all, while ALL the pilots describe outturning allied fighters with ease
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