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As someone who's grown up with digimon adventure. I personally liked seeing the growth that digimon has taken. It made me feel like it was growing with me. I love everything about the franchise from the good, the bad, and the ugly. So I look forward to the next movies. And hopefully, I can have them in the town I live in.
To me the bond breaking was a subtle hint from the producers to the fans to move on from their childhood when they grow up n that it’s just a part of life to leave behind childish things. But we as fans don’t want that message we want to be digidestine for the rest of our lives we don’t want to drop it just bc we aren’t suppose to like “cartoons/anime” anymore or that we need to focus on work or being an adult. Like being an adult doesn’t mean we have to give up our hobbies or likes and just be a mindless working slave were we wake up eat go to work sleep and repeat. Only getting two days out of the week (if even) to “relax”
Im not so sure what movie did You watch, but for sure the only thing they wanted to Tell us is that You Dont have to control someone as your puppet 😅. All anime are kindda childish...so your logic is not logic If You know what i mean 😅.
@@gabrielvalentinserban2987 If you think about the similarities between what Last Evolution was about, and the disappearance of the Digivices in this movie, then a theory about the producers wanting their older fans to perhaps move on, is really not illogical, nor is it particularly farfetched. Or they're just telling their older fans they're wanting to move on from the first 2 series to make something new? Certainly possible, and I mean, they must think about newer fans if they want to keep the Digimon franchise alive, no matter how much it hurts to perhaps see the og, topnotch series fade into the past.
I think u meant "abused by his mother" not "molested". Very different meanings lol. I liked how everyone in my theater audibly gasped when Lui picked up a bat for some violence.
The biggest mistake this movie made was focusing on a new character the majority of the audience had no connection to, like what Digimon Adventure Tri did. Most viewers wanted a movie about the digidestined they grew up with.
the movie was good. I like character driven stories in digimon. The lesson about good communication being important to a functional relationship was really beautiful.
i think the whole "Lui is first chosen kid" Problematic when you have Oikawa and the original 5 chosen kids (Maki and Daigo) both obviously Predate him. But again it could be Lui is actually just unaware that he is not first human to interact with Digimon and assumed Ukkomon was directly responsible for bond/Digivices.
The thing is that the film doesn't interrogate this claim. Oikawa and the first Chosen Children are never discussed despite being a flagrant continuity error with Lui's claim. The Digivices disappearing with Ukkomon is an implicit confirmation that it was Ukkomon who created them, despite the original Adventure series very explicitly stating otherwise. All of this could've been solved by making Lui older and placing his meeting with Ukkomon earlier in the timeline, which wouldn't have negatively impacted the modern-day half of the story in any meaningful way. There's no real reason why Lui has to be a similar age to the 02 kids. He could've been in his 60s or 70s and found Ukkomon at the birth of computing, or something.
@@the_echoYT I agree completely. I had the same issue with Kizuna stating that Digimon choose children for their potential, and as adults apparently don't have potential, their bonds will inevitably break. Like this one, Kizuna does not challenge that claim in any way, despite this conflicting with several elements from the original series. Regardless of how people feel about the epilogue, I wish the creators would respect it and the original vision of the show rather than throwing around all these retcons and contradictions. I'd like the epilogue to make more sense, not less. Even if you have later media saying 'Oh, Lui and Menoa were mistaken all along!' it's still extremely messy story telling to be essentially telling the audience lies about the lore. I want to consider these movies canon, but it does really make the story a jumbled mess. Hurricane Touchdown is a bit notorious for having weird plot holes within the context of the show, but at least it didn't massively change the fundamentals of the world by destroying the digivices. I really like the 02 cast so I was really really trying to like this movie, but I can't help but feel disappointed with it. I don't think the 02 kids were really even neccessary for this film, I think it could have just been its own thing with Lui as the main character and maybe another new character who could teach him about the power of friendship.
The film does indeed have dark moments but I think that's what it do interesting. Also, I like the fact that the movie emphasizes the importance of communication and relationships.
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My gripes while watching it was that it completely ignored the stuff from Tri gegarding the 02 kids being 'gone'. Like here they are, minding their own business, not really helping during Tri (not sure how long before this Tri took place). Also it felt like they didn't really plan their runtime very well. Which lead to a lot of exposition regarding Lui, people taking his claim of being the first digidestined at face value (wouldn't the special agents from Tri have digimon even earlier?) only to result in a very anticlimactic barebones final action scene. I went in expecting a story about the 02 kids and found a by the book digimon story that could have included any digimon cast but opted for the 02 kids purely for visual dressing.
Right it would of did a lot better hopefully we get another movie with the 02 team because this sounds like They were side characters and not really the focus of the movie no power up no new forms
this is 1 hell of a dark movie, something i would not expect from Digimon, it was a story driven movie and i did not mind the lack of evolution or new ones, the story was great.
Digimon actually had a lot of dark moments, Tamers with Jeri, the Dark Ocean episode, most episodes fo Ghost Game, Digimon can be also dark and horror.
For people who mejor complain is how Lui retcons everything, I don't think that's exactly true. In obscure old interviews the director for adventure and 02 Kakudo has mentioned the fact that the number of chosen children double each year, that means the first one had to exist in 1995 which doesn't contradict anything up to this point, and Lui can be the explanation for the number of chosen children increasing for no reason in the adventure universe But his wish isn't the case for the adventure cast and their partnership with their digimon, they were chosen for a specific mission by two other superior entities, in 1995 by homeostasis and 2002 by qinglongmon, but of course Lui have no idea of this and assume every chosen child in the world exist due to his wish, I personally don't think Lui's wish retcons the reason why the adventure cast (to had to restore the lost balance in the digital world due to the darkness and the dark masters) or the 02 cast were chosen (given ancient digimon who were able to armor evolve to stop the digimon kaiser), but just gives an explanation for the chosen children around the world while introducing a new problematic to resolve. This is how I see the number of chosen children doubling each year according to the timeline 1996: 1 (Lui meets ukkomon) 1997: 2 1998: 4 (these kids with the ones from 1997 could have been first group, remember that time passed way faster in the digital world ultil the end of Adventure. it makes sense their story is a legend in the digital world since thousands of years passed for the digimon's perspective, this was also the year when the 4 Holy beasts were created and were later sealed by the dark masters) 1999: 8 (the adventure cast) And so on
That doesn’t make sense because you are forgetting about Oikawa who was a digidestined in the 1970’s and Daigo, Maki and the rest of their group was earlier than 1995 I think based on my calculations more like 1985. I could be wrong though.
@@RedDuel oikawa was never a chosen child, he had s dream of going to the digital world for a long time. About daigo and the rest there isn't a single date pointing out the year they went to the digital world. Not to mention tri by itself if full of inconsistencies and plot holes, not a single person of the original stuff was involved in that project unlike the future movies like kizuna and the beginning
You're forgetting that in tri we see how the 4 holi digimon we're created. They were originally the partners of 5 kids and 2 out of those were shown as adults in tri (obviously the others were adults(at least 8-10 years older than taichi etc) at this point but not shown). So this new guy is at best as old as taichi etc but most likely is as old as 02 kids which makes it obvious that this loser wasn't the first chosen child and was far from it. Oh and I'm pretty sure those adults (4 holi digimon's partner childern also had digivices) which makes the end scene of the movie even more stupid cz in 02's ending they all had digivices and even if the consider the time travel part it still doesn't make sense since the new kid got his digimon after the holi digimon kids who had digivices even before this kid was born lol.
I'm so glad you mentioned that it tells a story that at a first glance feels like a retelling of Tri and Kizuna combined and even the Contact comparison! When they discussed it, I literally yelled "That's from Contact!" :D About the movie, trained by Doctor Who, I no longer worry too much about continuity and canon. I enjoy this for what it is. I didn't expect them to completely ignore Tri and Kizuna or almost directly contradict it as they did, but I also didn't expect the story to continue from there. And even though I would probably prefer a story that is somehow tied to the original 02 run (like the Dark Ocean etc), I really enjoyed this movie. And boy, was it strong. That red scene when Lui loses his eye almost made me sick, but I was gripped.
You explaining the bond idea how how the 02 kids always had their Digimon versus Tai and Matt not having Agumon or Gabumon with them is a solid idea on why the events happened in Last Evolution. When I was watching this movie I was getting a bit confused in terms of what was told on that movie and what is being shown in this one. If there is a new movie to come soon with 01 and 02 kids I hope they find a way to explain this plot point. Maybe even find a way to bring back Agumon and Gabumon.
A major qualm I had with the movie were the battle scenes. SPOILER WARNING AHEAD!!! I felt like it could have been staged a bit differently. Specifically Angewomon fighting a little more (using her special attack) before reverting to Tailmon (i.e. getting slammed by a giant tentacle and de-evolving) and then jogress evolving with Aquilamon. In fact I wished we saw the adult level/champion level forms of the zero two digimon could have fought more or seen more of their special attacks before jogress. For the case of immediately evolving into imperialdramon I understand for the plan and to be ready to fight if Rui was not able to properly converse with Ukkomon
I am all for more moments/scenes with the zero two cast. How in ways they had changed as adults and how they are still retain their key traits. Minor spoilers ahead Like Daisuke being straightforward (and when he acts on impulse and the rest of the crew "sighs" and are exasperated) but also having an introspective side, Miyako being gung ho when it comes time for them to come up with a plan, etc. I also like the exchanges between Ken and Miyako alluding to them being a couple in the epilogue. They feel nuanced and meaningful like you can sense there is chemistry and they still relate to the movie's plot/message.
And the plot thickens that's all they did in this movie created plot to who really is the first digidestine, which I previously thought was Genie the old guy it needed more battles the lack of fights that's my only complaint the animation flawless And the dark water stuff and daemon was never resolved
As many have mentioned the movie felt like a stand alone film, since the plot had little to do with the 02 cast. However, I enjoyed the movie as I liked the story's mature theme, especially towards the end when Lui goes back in time to somewhat reconcile with his mother which brought about a positive change in his childhood relationship with her. I also liked the dialogue between Lui and Ukkamon near the ending. It seems when they made this movie, it was intended for the older audience, since the written story seemed abit too mature for the typical 10 year old. I was initially hoping we would get introduced to the 02 cast's digimon's natural evolution forms , such as ultimate and mega levels without the need of fusion. Hopefully, we get to see that in a future movie. I think Lui's assessment of being the first digidestined is accurate, since he altered the destiny of many children by wishing for more digimon partners, which essentially made them a digidestined. The first children that were selected to go to the digital world were not digidestined, but just a selection of humans that were pulled into the digital world. Fate (Lui's wish) was not the cause of them being chosen to be partnered with a digimon.
I liked the lui story but tbh I find it pretty strange that the cast got sidelined in their movie. The abuse solution of talking to the mother was also so strange. And I hate the fact, that they have to redcon a lot of stuff of the beginning. And Lui feels so much like a fanfic OC tbh. Tragic backstory, grey hair, skinny, dark clothes, a dark secret, the first DigiDestined, has a digimon eye. Edit: Great end of your video really enjoyed the positive outlook
I watch this movie in the english dub and to my surprise they keep the ost from JP Dub they also keep Lui abuse but as what i think about this movie i didn't hate it it was okay i wish there was more battles but that just me i do enjoy the animation for the evolution for the digimon but ultimately i would give this movie a 6 out of 10
US fans claim every Digimon movie isn't canon or that Wallace, Ryo, or Young Hunters aren't canon... I'm pretty sick of it. They're not just making fan fic movies. If anything, the Japanese only CD dramas are fan fic and unimportant.
This literally has them ho back in time to hang out with the new oc character who totally existed tye whole time and apparently caused the problems in other movies. When there was no implication of taht happening ever
@@tayuyamajik6525I read that the Tamers CD dramas contradict Runaway Locomon and Young Hunters, which are main continuity. They get their Digimon back right after the ending of Tamers. But in the CD drama, apparently they don't.
I wasn't able to see this in theaters due to work and my brother didn't finished Tri and Last Kizuna. When a dub version was drop on 9anime . I stop what i was doing ans what the movie . And yes these are some flaws with this . But i actually did like this movie . And there been stuff say we are getting a tamers movie . And i hope that comes pretty soon.
The first part was intriguing, the horror part very experimental for Digimon and very cool. I liked how Lui looked exactly like what I suppose me and others did when we were children and drew our first anime/manga OCs, just a generic kid with spiky hair covering their face because it looked edgy and was easier to draw. It really makes for a cool audience POV character that is weirdly nostalgic. I really hated the second half of the movie... I was so disappointed by everyone involved, it felt like all the 02 Cast wanted the higher moral ground, the amount of gazlighting in this movie is unreal Lui was abused all throughout his childhood, first by his parents, then by Ukkomon. Im not looking to appoligize for his mom's actions, she was a child abuser, but no one deserves their consciousness to be overtaken. Lui made a wish and a mad, child god answered, this was borderline cosmic horror, the entity that is Ukkomon had unfathomable powers to rewrite reality as it wished, but it was an AI with no concept of right or wrong, that was TERRIFYING. You don;t reason with Skynet, even if it does what it did THINKING it was doing what was right for you, it. What Ukkomon did was fucked up, and yet the 02 cast is like "but, try to see things from his point of view".... are you kidding me?
It's a 7 out of 10 for me. A great message about communication was told but everything felt underwhelming. The fights, the stakes, their motive. The movie would have been better if we had seen the effects of every single person getting a Digimon. We all know there are evil people in the world so seeing them abuse the newly born Digimon would have been a great way to see the danger of ukkomon. They could have balanced that by showing bad people becoming better thanks to Digimon or vice versa people going bad cause of them. This could have worked so that lots of the digi-chosen could battle throughout the world like in the original 02, a nice throwback to that event Also the 02 cast feel somewhat useless like, they were there just for the sake of it. After seeing The last evolution I was expecting something great but this movie felt short
This movie should have either been a standalone movie or an 02 movie. The two sides of the movie don’t mix well at all. I wouldn’t mind the lore implications if they actually challenged them instead of it not really mattering in the story. This could have been something great, but what we got was a mess.
I'm sorry for the criticism, as I understand it may simply be due to a language barrier. However, I gasped in disbelief when you mentioned "molested by his mother". I believe you meant "abused". The former has an explicitly sexual meaning, while the latter is more general in nature, and typically refers to verbal, mental, or physical (harm) abuse. In any event, great video and review, I will be checking this film out.
I'm sorry for who lover this film I tried liking it but holy cow i felt nothing for it aside from pity for Louie. They need to leave adventure alone and actually think of previous stories that could work left unfinished
No, it was a shitty movie and I'll die on that hill. Maybe I would have felt less strongly if I hadn't paid for it in theaters, but no one asked for this. This is not what we were waiting for. It was beyond disappointing
it's really not a good movie, not trash, just...badly executed. I only got aggravated by hearing another "victimized" protagonist, being voiced by Shiniji Ikari's VA hahaha, it's just expected....animations was (new jogress were a plus)....mid, fights could've been longer, in itself, it was just a introduction to Loui, including the 02 Protragonists by accident, which c'mon guys, we KNOW; WE FANS KNOW, THEY ARE seriously underdeveloped, and fans have long awaited chances to see them flourish, to see more than just being de DA 02 run, to deepen all the "chosen childs" the DA 01 lore formed, and gave them continuation with the DA 02! just to be like in the series finale "oh, look, NOW, we will never use them again, until some rushed weird movie".
Always doing 02 cast dirty. The movie had very interesting concepts but it was too much for such a short time. It, at the very least, needed one follow up movie. I don't even think it is bad, it goes way too fast and you don't get any answer for all the things that happen. It just feel incomplete and rushed
This movie was nothing special and it made kizuna even worse then it already was as it pretty much goes against what kizuna was trying to shove down your troat about growing up and letting go of the past this one is no no you can keep your bonds While growing up, so does that mean that taichi yamato and sora have their digimon back? Or is that stupid timer rule still in effect that matterd to nobody else? If they do another movie after this one it needs an insane amount of work to tie everything up and make the 02 ending work
I believe the whole Point of this Movie was to Counteract the Problems they caused with Last Evolution - almost No-One liked the Age Limit Idea the movie tried to enforce, so this was meant to allow Humans to Grow Up with their Digimon again. How they went about this was horredous though, suggesting that Digivices and Chosen Children were all Facilitated through One Digimon's Wish-Granting Powers, and destroying it all through the Shark-Jumping Trope of Time Travel... As for whether this BS could result in the Return of the older Adventure Cast's Digimon, that's up for Debate - I personally don't think the interactions inside BigUkkomon's Egg affected anything but the people inside and the Digivices that had been created by Ukkomon's Powers, thus any Digimon already gone by that point Wouldn't be brought back with the Erasure of the Digivices. This is obviously the Least Desirable of all the Outcomes, and is just what I'd expect from Bandai at this Point, screwing over Everyone when their Message of "Grow Up, Babies!" was met with Backlash... They've clearly Hated 02 ever since it first Aired, and refuse to do anything that would Repair the problems they Regretted - preferring to force Everyone Else to hate it as much as They do. This Movie's Sole Purpose is to Kill the Adventure Continuity completely so they don't have to make another 02 Film to Fix this! And I'd rather they Don't make another Film, or they're going to drag all the Other Digimon Franchises into the Toilet with it...
I think the analogy here is that we just like the original digi destined would have to put up leaving our digimon (memories of digimon) behind, just like in Kizuna. The ones who are complaining are obviously hurt but just like the main message of the franchise, you all need to move on and grow up. There will be new protagonists born from this, and you guys are stopping this development from progressing. This is not pokemon where ash after 50 years is still technically below 18 yrs old for some reason. The old cast has grown and moved on. Time for the new heroes to step in, let there be new protagonists and new main cast digimons. Also i hope in the next series, they play with the idea of X Antibody digimons and also feature the Seadramon line as a protagonist which is my fave.
The problem is that in the epilogue we are shown the characters still with their partners. It almost makes ending of Last Kizuna moot. I have to say seeing Taichi and Yamato spending the remainder of their time saving the world to be heartwarming.
@@melissamurray8307 OP briefly mentioned the difference between original and 02 digi destined, the orignal pretty much lost everything, while the second generation ones stil have their partners. Their part was over and as adults, they needed to leave the digimon world behind. Its something like peter pan, only children can enter the world of peter pan and since the original were grown up already , the end was inevitable. also taichi and yamato pretty much left behind their digimon to attend university. this confirms that either agumon and gabumon die or get sent back to the digital world, severing their connection.
@@messiahad Except for TK and Kari, but then again those two were always super special. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but do they DNA digivolve in the film?
Just watched it last night. It was an awfull movie. Too much retconing that doesn't makes sense and just shits all over that was built before. Also they focused way too much on the new guy and I still ended up not liking him.
Its a very pretentious movie that we really didnt need and retcons so much just to tell a story literaly bo one asked for. Also its needlessly grotesque
@nad0b0lS ghost game being mid, and this movie bein gass do not mean we don't need any other show. The point I was asking is that this movie doesn't help the adventure verse. Retcons many things to tell its story. Thematically makes lok completely pointless and over all is just a cash grab again. At least ghost game is its own series that affects nothing else
@@tayuyamajik6525 My point is that if we keep saying that we didn’t need tri, ghost game, reboot, or this movie, the next thing we’re gonna get is nothing.
@nad0b0lS then maybe we should get nothing if the things we get are mid at best lik ggost game or just flat out dog shit trash like lok and Tri and especially 2020
@nad0b0lS then maybe we don't deserve any if the crap were gonna be getting his mid at best like ghost game or dog shit crap like lok try especially 2020 and this new one
Je ne comprenais pas l intérêt de ce film avant de comprendre que la fin annulait le lien factice via le digivice et du coup annule la mort des digimons comme prédit dans kizuna… et c est encore pire et ça n a aucun sens
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That concept idea still part of show but never said what! Maybe those hyper dimensional beings cause it what
As someone who's grown up with digimon adventure. I personally liked seeing the growth that digimon has taken. It made me feel like it was growing with me. I love everything about the franchise from the good, the bad, and the ugly. So I look forward to the next movies. And hopefully, I can have them in the town I live in.
Same here. I just wish other seasons like Tamers and Frontier were shown some more love though.
@@melissamurray8307 same here
@@melissamurray8307 The problem is they're not popular enough (in Japan atleast) for Bandai/Toei to consider milking like with Adventure.
To me the bond breaking was a subtle hint from the producers to the fans to move on from their childhood when they grow up n that it’s just a part of life to leave behind childish things.
But we as fans don’t want that message we want to be digidestine for the rest of our lives we don’t want to drop it just bc we aren’t suppose to like “cartoons/anime” anymore or that we need to focus on work or being an adult.
Like being an adult doesn’t mean we have to give up our hobbies or likes and just be a mindless working slave were we wake up eat go to work sleep and repeat. Only getting two days out of the week (if even) to “relax”
Im not so sure what movie did You watch, but for sure the only thing they wanted to Tell us is that You Dont have to control someone as your puppet 😅. All anime are kindda childish...so your logic is not logic If You know what i mean 😅.
@@gabrielvalentinserban2987 probably Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna is the one they watched that they're referring to here.
@@NekomonYT is it possible.
@@gabrielvalentinserban2987 If you think about the similarities between what Last Evolution was about, and the disappearance of the Digivices in this movie, then a theory about the producers wanting their older fans to perhaps move on, is really not illogical, nor is it particularly farfetched.
Or they're just telling their older fans they're wanting to move on from the first 2 series to make something new? Certainly possible, and I mean, they must think about newer fans if they want to keep the Digimon franchise alive, no matter how much it hurts to perhaps see the og, topnotch series fade into the past.
I think u meant "abused by his mother" not "molested". Very different meanings lol. I liked how everyone in my theater audibly gasped when Lui picked up a bat for some violence.
I was confused when he said that too
The biggest mistake this movie made was focusing on a new character the majority of the audience had no connection to, like what Digimon Adventure Tri did. Most viewers wanted a movie about the digidestined they grew up with.
Yes, Lui was basically Mei again. AND the ending was basically Kizuna again.
the movie was good. I like character driven stories in digimon. The lesson about good communication being important to a functional relationship was really beautiful.
i think the whole "Lui is first chosen kid" Problematic when you have Oikawa and the original 5 chosen kids (Maki and Daigo) both obviously Predate him.
But again it could be Lui is actually just unaware that he is not first human to interact with Digimon and assumed Ukkomon was directly responsible for bond/Digivices.
But the digivice literally disappeared at the end tho after they defeated Ukkomon
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oh yeah but keep in mind Ukkomon references that he is connected to a greater being Presumably to be homeostasis.
The thing is that the film doesn't interrogate this claim. Oikawa and the first Chosen Children are never discussed despite being a flagrant continuity error with Lui's claim.
The Digivices disappearing with Ukkomon is an implicit confirmation that it was Ukkomon who created them, despite the original Adventure series very explicitly stating otherwise.
All of this could've been solved by making Lui older and placing his meeting with Ukkomon earlier in the timeline, which wouldn't have negatively impacted the modern-day half of the story in any meaningful way. There's no real reason why Lui has to be a similar age to the 02 kids. He could've been in his 60s or 70s and found Ukkomon at the birth of computing, or something.
@@the_echoYT I agree completely. I had the same issue with Kizuna stating that Digimon choose children for their potential, and as adults apparently don't have potential, their bonds will inevitably break. Like this one, Kizuna does not challenge that claim in any way, despite this conflicting with several elements from the original series. Regardless of how people feel about the epilogue, I wish the creators would respect it and the original vision of the show rather than throwing around all these retcons and contradictions. I'd like the epilogue to make more sense, not less. Even if you have later media saying 'Oh, Lui and Menoa were mistaken all along!' it's still extremely messy story telling to be essentially telling the audience lies about the lore. I want to consider these movies canon, but it does really make the story a jumbled mess. Hurricane Touchdown is a bit notorious for having weird plot holes within the context of the show, but at least it didn't massively change the fundamentals of the world by destroying the digivices. I really like the 02 cast so I was really really trying to like this movie, but I can't help but feel disappointed with it. I don't think the 02 kids were really even neccessary for this film, I think it could have just been its own thing with Lui as the main character and maybe another new character who could teach him about the power of friendship.
@@FullMetalFeline 100%. Please Toei, stop with continuity errors...
The film does indeed have dark moments but I think that's what it do interesting.
Also, I like the fact that the movie emphasizes the importance of communication and relationships.
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The best review of The Beginning.
My gripes while watching it was that it completely ignored the stuff from Tri gegarding the 02 kids being 'gone'.
Like here they are, minding their own business, not really helping during Tri (not sure how long before this Tri took place).
Also it felt like they didn't really plan their runtime very well. Which lead to a lot of exposition regarding Lui, people taking his claim of being the first digidestined at face value (wouldn't the special agents from Tri have digimon even earlier?) only to result in a very anticlimactic barebones final action scene.
I went in expecting a story about the 02 kids and found a by the book digimon story that could have included any digimon cast but opted for the 02 kids purely for visual dressing.
Honestly, if the movie was a stand-alone. The dark tone could have worked.
Right it would of did a lot better hopefully we get another movie with the 02 team because this sounds like
They were side characters and not really the focus of the movie no power up no new forms
this is 1 hell of a dark movie, something i would not expect from Digimon, it was a story driven movie and i did not mind the lack of evolution or new ones, the story was great.
Digimon actually had a lot of dark moments, Tamers with Jeri, the Dark Ocean episode, most episodes fo Ghost Game, Digimon can be also dark and horror.
I likes the movie. It was bold and It was cool to see how the first digidistined grew. The dark scenes were gold.
i saw it and i liked it and ending was so much better then previous one
For people who mejor complain is how Lui retcons everything, I don't think that's exactly true. In obscure old interviews the director for adventure and 02 Kakudo has mentioned the fact that the number of chosen children double each year, that means the first one had to exist in 1995 which doesn't contradict anything up to this point, and Lui can be the explanation for the number of chosen children increasing for no reason in the adventure universe
But his wish isn't the case for the adventure cast and their partnership with their digimon, they were chosen for a specific mission by two other superior entities, in 1995 by homeostasis and 2002 by qinglongmon, but of course Lui have no idea of this and assume every chosen child in the world exist due to his wish, I personally don't think Lui's wish retcons the reason why the adventure cast (to had to restore the lost balance in the digital world due to the darkness and the dark masters) or the 02 cast were chosen (given ancient digimon who were able to armor evolve to stop the digimon kaiser), but just gives an explanation for the chosen children around the world while introducing a new problematic to resolve.
This is how I see the number of chosen children doubling each year according to the timeline
1996: 1 (Lui meets ukkomon)
1997: 2
1998: 4 (these kids with the ones from 1997 could have been first group, remember that time passed way faster in the digital world ultil the end of Adventure. it makes sense their story is a legend in the digital world since thousands of years passed for the digimon's perspective, this was also the year when the 4 Holy beasts were created and were later sealed by the dark masters)
1999: 8 (the adventure cast)
And so on
That doesn’t make sense because you are forgetting about Oikawa who was a digidestined in the 1970’s and Daigo, Maki and the rest of their group was earlier than 1995 I think based on my calculations more like 1985. I could be wrong though.
@@RedDuel oikawa was never a chosen child, he had s dream of going to the digital world for a long time.
About daigo and the rest there isn't a single date pointing out the year they went to the digital world. Not to mention tri by itself if full of inconsistencies and plot holes, not a single person of the original stuff was involved in that project unlike the future movies like kizuna and the beginning
You're forgetting that in tri we see how the 4 holi digimon we're created. They were originally the partners of 5 kids and 2 out of those were shown as adults in tri (obviously the others were adults(at least 8-10 years older than taichi etc) at this point but not shown). So this new guy is at best as old as taichi etc but most likely is as old as 02 kids which makes it obvious that this loser wasn't the first chosen child and was far from it. Oh and I'm pretty sure those adults (4 holi digimon's partner childern also had digivices) which makes the end scene of the movie even more stupid cz in 02's ending they all had digivices and even if the consider the time travel part it still doesn't make sense since the new kid got his digimon after the holi digimon kids who had digivices even before this kid was born lol.
I honestly loved this movie. Especially now when we don’t have any ongoing series, it felt so good to go back to Digimon anime.
I'm so glad you mentioned that it tells a story that at a first glance feels like a retelling of Tri and Kizuna combined and even the Contact comparison! When they discussed it, I literally yelled "That's from Contact!" :D
About the movie, trained by Doctor Who, I no longer worry too much about continuity and canon. I enjoy this for what it is. I didn't expect them to completely ignore Tri and Kizuna or almost directly contradict it as they did, but I also didn't expect the story to continue from there. And even though I would probably prefer a story that is somehow tied to the original 02 run (like the Dark Ocean etc), I really enjoyed this movie. And boy, was it strong. That red scene when Lui loses his eye almost made me sick, but I was gripped.
Really cool editing in the intro sequence!
Thank you. :)
You explaining the bond idea how how the 02 kids always had their Digimon versus Tai and Matt not having Agumon or Gabumon with them is a solid idea on why the events happened in Last Evolution. When I was watching this movie I was getting a bit confused in terms of what was told on that movie and what is being shown in this one. If there is a new movie to come soon with 01 and 02 kids I hope they find a way to explain this plot point. Maybe even find a way to bring back Agumon and Gabumon.
A major qualm I had with the movie were the battle scenes.
SPOILER WARNING AHEAD!!!
I felt like it could have been staged a bit differently. Specifically Angewomon fighting a little more (using her special attack) before reverting to Tailmon (i.e. getting slammed by a giant tentacle and de-evolving) and then jogress evolving with Aquilamon. In fact I wished we saw the adult level/champion level forms of the zero two digimon could have fought more or seen more of their special attacks before jogress. For the case of immediately evolving into imperialdramon I understand for the plan and to be ready to fight if Rui was not able to properly converse with Ukkomon
I am all for more moments/scenes with the zero two cast. How in ways they had changed as adults and how they are still retain their key traits.
Minor spoilers ahead
Like Daisuke being straightforward (and when he acts on impulse and the rest of the crew "sighs" and are exasperated) but also having an introspective side, Miyako being gung ho when it comes time for them to come up with a plan, etc.
I also like the exchanges between Ken and Miyako alluding to them being a couple in the epilogue. They feel nuanced and meaningful like you can sense there is chemistry and they still relate to the movie's plot/message.
If Digimon Adventure 02 Reboot were to start at the beginning of October, and a sequel to Digimon Adventure 2020 Reboot.
Ok, I will watch it
And the plot thickens that's all they did in this movie created plot to who really is the first digidestine, which I previously thought was Genie the old guy it needed more battles the lack of fights that's my only complaint the animation flawless And the dark water stuff and daemon was never resolved
Just seeing modernized Jogress animations and that castle got blown up is already satisfying
It was quite cool for me! 10/10 and 9/10!
Also love the inclusion of Herissmon and Kamemon in 2012, that means Kudamon 2006 still for me!
:)
As many have mentioned the movie felt like a stand alone film, since the plot had little to do with the 02 cast.
However, I enjoyed the movie as I liked the story's mature theme, especially towards the end when Lui goes back in time to somewhat reconcile with his mother which brought about a positive change in his childhood relationship with her. I also liked the dialogue between Lui and Ukkamon near the ending.
It seems when they made this movie, it was intended for the older audience, since the written story seemed abit too mature for the typical 10 year old.
I was initially hoping we would get introduced to the 02 cast's digimon's natural evolution forms , such as ultimate and mega levels without the need of fusion. Hopefully, we get to see that in a future movie.
I think Lui's assessment of being the first digidestined is accurate, since he altered the destiny of many children by wishing for more digimon partners, which essentially made them a digidestined.
The first children that were selected to go to the digital world were not digidestined, but just a selection of humans that were pulled into the digital world. Fate (Lui's wish) was not the cause of them being chosen to be partnered with a digimon.
I like it felt like ghost games
I liked the lui story but tbh I find it pretty strange that the cast got sidelined in their movie. The abuse solution of talking to the mother was also so strange. And I hate the fact, that they have to redcon a lot of stuff of the beginning. And Lui feels so much like a fanfic OC tbh. Tragic backstory, grey hair, skinny, dark clothes, a dark secret, the first DigiDestined, has a digimon eye.
Edit: Great end of your video really enjoyed the positive outlook
I watch this movie in the english dub and to my surprise they keep the ost from JP Dub they also keep Lui abuse but as what i think about this movie i didn't hate it it was okay i wish there was more battles but that just me i do enjoy the animation for the evolution for the digimon but ultimately i would give this movie a 6 out of 10
Tellement d accord avec ta métaphore ❤
2:38 What's name on this Digimon? First time i see
Ukkomon The first Digimon is owned by a chosen child who is Lui
When did this movie come out
US fans claim every Digimon movie isn't canon or that Wallace, Ryo, or Young Hunters aren't canon... I'm pretty sick of it. They're not just making fan fic movies. If anything, the Japanese only CD dramas are fan fic and unimportant.
This literally has them ho back in time to hang out with the new oc character who totally existed tye whole time and apparently caused the problems in other movies. When there was no implication of taht happening ever
@@tayuyamajik6525And it's canon whether you like it or not.
@@Gundam79 so are the drama cds lol
@@tayuyamajik6525I read that the Tamers CD dramas contradict Runaway Locomon and Young Hunters, which are main continuity. They get their Digimon back right after the ending of Tamers. But in the CD drama, apparently they don't.
You said it yourself "wether you like it or not its canon". The movies are canon
So is the movie out
I wasn't able to see this in theaters due to work and my brother didn't finished Tri and Last Kizuna. When a dub version was drop on 9anime . I stop what i was doing ans what the movie . And yes these are some flaws with this . But i actually did like this movie . And there been stuff say we are getting a tamers movie . And i hope that comes pretty soon.
The first part was intriguing, the horror part very experimental for Digimon and very cool. I liked how Lui looked exactly like what I suppose me and others did when we were children and drew our first anime/manga OCs, just a generic kid with spiky hair covering their face because it looked edgy and was easier to draw. It really makes for a cool audience POV character that is weirdly nostalgic.
I really hated the second half of the movie... I was so disappointed by everyone involved, it felt like all the 02 Cast wanted the higher moral ground, the amount of gazlighting in this movie is unreal
Lui was abused all throughout his childhood, first by his parents, then by Ukkomon. Im not looking to appoligize for his mom's actions, she was a child abuser, but no one deserves their consciousness to be overtaken. Lui made a wish and a mad, child god answered, this was borderline cosmic horror, the entity that is Ukkomon had unfathomable powers to rewrite reality as it wished, but it was an AI with no concept of right or wrong, that was TERRIFYING. You don;t reason with Skynet, even if it does what it did THINKING it was doing what was right for you, it. What Ukkomon did was fucked up, and yet the 02 cast is like "but, try to see things from his point of view".... are you kidding me?
It's a 7 out of 10 for me. A great message about communication was told but everything felt underwhelming. The fights, the stakes, their motive.
The movie would have been better if we had seen the effects of every single person getting a Digimon. We all know there are evil people in the world so seeing them abuse the newly born Digimon would have been a great way to see the danger of ukkomon. They could have balanced that by showing bad people becoming better thanks to Digimon or vice versa people going bad cause of them.
This could have worked so that lots of the digi-chosen could battle throughout the world like in the original 02, a nice throwback to that event
Also the 02 cast feel somewhat useless like, they were there just for the sake of it.
After seeing The last evolution I was expecting something great but this movie felt short
This movie should have either been a standalone movie or an 02 movie. The two sides of the movie don’t mix well at all. I wouldn’t mind the lore implications if they actually challenged them instead of it not really mattering in the story. This could have been something great, but what we got was a mess.
I still have my digimon
I'm sorry for the criticism, as I understand it may simply be due to a language barrier. However, I gasped in disbelief when you mentioned "molested by his mother". I believe you meant "abused". The former has an explicitly sexual meaning, while the latter is more general in nature, and typically refers to verbal, mental, or physical (harm) abuse. In any event, great video and review, I will be checking this film out.
Still screwed if you are UK resident
I'm sorry for who lover this film I tried liking it but holy cow i felt nothing for it aside from pity for Louie. They need to leave adventure alone and actually think of previous stories that could work left unfinished
Will there be the reboot of the original Digimon Adventure 02 Anime Series?
I would love that especially to see blackwargreymon again he was such a conflicted character
How would that work? Given several 02 Digimon already appeared in 2020.
Wait a new movie dropped
Ok i m gonna watch this later but thanks for the news of the release
No, it was a shitty movie and I'll die on that hill.
Maybe I would have felt less strongly if I hadn't paid for it in theaters, but no one asked for this. This is not what we were waiting for. It was beyond disappointing
Based. Preach
it's really not a good movie, not trash, just...badly executed.
I only got aggravated by hearing another "victimized" protagonist, being voiced by Shiniji Ikari's VA hahaha, it's just expected....animations was (new jogress were a plus)....mid, fights could've been longer, in itself, it was just a introduction to Loui, including the 02 Protragonists by accident, which c'mon guys, we KNOW; WE FANS KNOW, THEY ARE seriously underdeveloped, and fans have long awaited chances to see them flourish, to see more than just being de DA 02 run, to deepen all the "chosen childs" the DA 01 lore formed, and gave them continuation with the DA 02! just to be like in the series finale "oh, look, NOW, we will never use them again, until some rushed weird movie".
Always doing 02 cast dirty. The movie had very interesting concepts but it was too much for such a short time. It, at the very least, needed one follow up movie. I don't even think it is bad, it goes way too fast and you don't get any answer for all the things that happen. It just feel incomplete and rushed
This movie was nothing special and it made kizuna even worse then it already was as it pretty much goes against what kizuna was trying to shove down your troat about growing up and letting go of the past this one is no no you can keep your bonds While growing up, so does that mean that taichi yamato and sora have their digimon back? Or is that stupid timer rule still in effect that matterd to nobody else?
If they do another movie after this one it needs an insane amount of work to tie everything up and make the 02 ending work
I believe the whole Point of this Movie was to Counteract the Problems they caused with Last Evolution - almost No-One liked the Age Limit Idea the movie tried to enforce, so this was meant to allow Humans to Grow Up with their Digimon again. How they went about this was horredous though, suggesting that Digivices and Chosen Children were all Facilitated through One Digimon's Wish-Granting Powers, and destroying it all through the Shark-Jumping Trope of Time Travel...
As for whether this BS could result in the Return of the older Adventure Cast's Digimon, that's up for Debate - I personally don't think the interactions inside BigUkkomon's Egg affected anything but the people inside and the Digivices that had been created by Ukkomon's Powers, thus any Digimon already gone by that point Wouldn't be brought back with the Erasure of the Digivices. This is obviously the Least Desirable of all the Outcomes, and is just what I'd expect from Bandai at this Point, screwing over Everyone when their Message of "Grow Up, Babies!" was met with Backlash...
They've clearly Hated 02 ever since it first Aired, and refuse to do anything that would Repair the problems they Regretted - preferring to force Everyone Else to hate it as much as They do. This Movie's Sole Purpose is to Kill the Adventure Continuity completely so they don't have to make another 02 Film to Fix this! And I'd rather they Don't make another Film, or they're going to drag all the Other Digimon Franchises into the Toilet with it...
I think the analogy here is that we just like the original digi destined would have to put up leaving our digimon (memories of digimon) behind, just like in Kizuna. The ones who are complaining are obviously hurt but just like the main message of the franchise, you all need to move on and grow up. There will be new protagonists born from this, and you guys are stopping this development from progressing.
This is not pokemon where ash after 50 years is still technically below 18 yrs old for some reason. The old cast has grown and moved on. Time for the new heroes to step in, let there be new protagonists and new main cast digimons. Also i hope in the next series, they play with the idea of X Antibody digimons and also feature the Seadramon line as a protagonist which is my fave.
The problem is that in the epilogue we are shown the characters still with their partners. It almost makes ending of Last Kizuna moot. I have to say seeing Taichi and Yamato spending the remainder of their time saving the world to be heartwarming.
@@melissamurray8307 OP briefly mentioned the difference between original and 02 digi destined, the orignal pretty much lost everything, while the second generation ones stil have their partners. Their part was over and as adults, they needed to leave the digimon world behind. Its something like peter pan, only children can enter the world of peter pan and since the original were grown up already , the end was inevitable. also taichi and yamato pretty much left behind their digimon to attend university. this confirms that either agumon and gabumon die or get sent back to the digital world, severing their connection.
@@messiahad Except for TK and Kari, but then again those two were always super special. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but do they DNA digivolve in the film?
I kno we not talkn bout but digimon frontier was kinda lit just different from what we were used to just here to drop my hot take 😅
Just watched it last night. It was an awfull movie. Too much retconing that doesn't makes sense and just shits all over that was built before. Also they focused way too much on the new guy and I still ended up not liking him.
I agree. It was kind of a pointless movie, and the 02 cast felt more like glorified guest stars.
I disagree. I like the movie. It gave me the 01 original vibe
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Its a very pretentious movie that we really didnt need and retcons so much just to tell a story literaly bo one asked for. Also its needlessly grotesque
Yeah, let’s “not need” anything they make, and we’ll get a new anime never.
@nad0b0lS ghost game being mid, and this movie bein gass do not mean we don't need any other show. The point I was asking is that this movie doesn't help the adventure verse. Retcons many things to tell its story. Thematically makes lok completely pointless and over all is just a cash grab again. At least ghost game is its own series that affects nothing else
@@tayuyamajik6525 My point is that if we keep saying that we didn’t need tri, ghost game, reboot, or this movie, the next thing we’re gonna get is nothing.
@nad0b0lS then maybe we should get nothing if the things we get are mid at best lik ggost game or just flat out dog shit trash like lok and Tri and especially 2020
@nad0b0lS then maybe we don't deserve any if the crap were gonna be getting his mid at best like ghost game or dog shit crap like lok try especially 2020 and this new one
I did not like the movie just waist of my time Digimon franchise are doing bad decisions recently.
*waste
Je ne comprenais pas l intérêt de ce film avant de comprendre que la fin annulait le lien factice via le digivice et du coup annule la mort des digimons comme prédit dans kizuna… et c est encore pire et ça n a aucun sens
Well this movie sucked why couldn't tailmon and patamon fully digivivolve into mega/ultimate
It was very disappointing. Hopefully we get a good tamers movie next.