PAYDAY 2, the game where you can kill a Bulldozer with a comically large spoon and also the game in which Dallas screams "I NEED A MEDIC BAG" every 10 seconds
Compact 5 used to have a better reload, and there's a mod that brings it back. For whatever reason they let someone new re-animate the thing when Niphen left Overkill, and that's the result.
Animations: They're both perfect in their own ways. Payday 2 has smooth animations for its time and MW definitely delivers an excellent feel of adrenaline from the animations. Its a tie. Sounds: MW19, they're recorded with real gun sounds so its not a surprise that it won. Payday 2 has great sounds though Models: I can't really decide... Usually i rate these by how believable they look, but since we're comparing games that have a huge time gap... I'm gonna give both a point. Verdict: MW19, although it did win my attention for the amount of love and effort that it was put Payday 2 IMO was a lot more fun.
I'm not saying that payday has better sounds, MW's are far nicer to hear. WIth that being said, MW's sounds are very editied. Only a couple of the guns actualy sound like that irl. There is pretty much zero difference in sound for 2 guns that fire roughly the same round with roughly the same barrel
Bit of an unfair comparison as Payday 2 is a 2013 game running on a Racing game engine made by a smaller dev team while a modern warfare is a 2019 game made on a great smooth engine by a very large company and dev team
I see my most favorite gun… the FN Minimi [KSP / Bruen Mk.9]. Because this monster beauty can kill Bulldozers on DW and be viable on DS in Payday 2, whereas in COD MW 2019 to mow down the whole enemy team like it’s Omaha Beach.
It's amusing to me how Payday 2 has more true-to-life models for its guns in most places. Animation wise, I'm more of a fan of Payday 2. There's no serious camera movement, and at least when Niphen was animating for them, the movements were smooth and stylish. Payday also has more variety in its reload methods, it isn't locked to "tactical as hell" like MW19 is.
Sucks how you like the more "true-to-life" models even though that bank heisters have a seemingly endless supply of WA-2000's. Sorry, but from driving engine turned FPS engine, MW2019 takes the cake in EVERY category.
Well it depends on what the game is trying to portray in gameplay mechanics Payday 2 is a more arcade type shooter of a bunch of people robbing banks so the reload animations are to show the characters you play aren't really trained with using firearms too well. While COD is focused more on realism and military operations so the animations are more tactical and fast paced than that of the latter game
CoD as a realistic game? Lol. MW2019 tried to be a lot more realistic, and animation wise, it is, compared to a lot of other CoDs. That being said, tac reloads are way too fast lol. Its an arcade game afterall
Payday 2 animation feels smooth and gentle (for a game about robbing a bank with a clown mask) Modern Warfare animation is aggressive but fast and tactical. Most of Payday 2 robbers aren't trained soldiers so it makes scenes that they reload much slower and the gun feels much heavier. And Modern warfare... I mean they know what they're doing they are well trained soldiers who have many experience in shooting. I like Payday 2 more cuz it's feel more gentle to the gun, and I don't want to damaged any guns. (I know, the revolver reload is wrong)
"the gun feels much heavier" youre underestimating the power of a man (or woman) who can carry a nuke on their back while conceal carrying a minigun and a giant 24k spoon with an RPG and full head to toe body armor
Nobody is talking about the fact that both payday 2 and MW 2019 has the player cocking the RPG (althought is hard to see in MW 2019 because the character reload too fast)
to be fair overkill and starbreeze is small compared to activision and infinite warfare its like a small town VS New York and the engines uk its not fair
honestly tho, I think I'll go with payday, now sure, ik MW has really good animations and sound design and shit but I think the smoothness of payday really feels better than MW to me, a simple and easy way to look at is by comparing the Mossberg reloads, in payday the animation feels more smooth and simple, while MW, you can clearly see the moments where the animation seems to emphasize the moment your character inserts the shell simply put payday = arcade style, more smooth animations without accelerated frames on purpose (well, except if you use reloads skills that make you reload in a second) and calm, but still fun gameplay Modern Warfare = more realistic and adrenaline-like gameplay and animation to be honest, I think both are wins
@@seanshandle indeed But, if im being honest, I've seen so many games and mods using MW animation's that rn, im feeling sick of seeing it They aren't bad, but just boring to see it in every single mod and game
It ain’t even close tbh, mw smokes payday 2 argue with a wall. The deagle is kinda a sexy in payday 2, but the animations in mw just look much better, it looks like there is actual weight.
@@shrekrab are you actually telling me MW reloads don’t look like they have weight to them, instead of crying, just appreciate the fact that they are one of the best weapon animations we have ever seen, if not the best.
OVERKILL developers cannot be bothered to find better reload animations for handguns, such as Glocks, Colts, Berettas, etc. Personally, I think they are motion capturing their movements, like they are in a movie or something. As for the MW 2019 with the Heckler & Koch MP5, it uses the same full reload animation on both half and full clip. Another thing that bothers me for MW, is there's too much head shake/sway when reloading. Gets me a bit dizzy.
They are NOT motion captured lol. And that's your opinion. Yes, newer animations are being degraded but that's because they're prioritising payday 3 instead of bothering about it (they should've ended payday 2 support tbh). Payday 2 has the best balance between being fast and being slow. I would also like to see you do better than payday, go ahead.
I agree with your points. Apart from you concern regarding the MP5 animation on MW, correct me if I'm reading this wrong but I don't remember the MW MP5 ever using the same animation for both empty and half reload.
MW's MP5 doesn't use the same reload on tac and empty. Maybe it's because both reloads charge the weapon that's why you think they do. And if you want to know why, watch Polenar Tactical's vid on the MP5 reloads.
hmm yes because everyone that plays shooting games are required to own guns, if you’re going to mine in Minecraft you need 10 years of experience underground guys
Come on now this ain't fair It's like comparing an A or B game borderline indie to a AAA studio I kid but man I hope Payday 3 doesn't look and feel like aged shite
I though was unreal engine 4, also payday 2 was relase has 40$ game for a studio with less than 100 people while mw with a 60$ or more "editions" with a masive studio with 3k or more.
@@Pablituss i dont think it was specified which version they were using but everyone always tries to move from 4 to 5 so that would likely happen. would benefit for the long run. im just praying to god the game doesnt feel sluggish like every other UE game and doesnt have the terrible ghosting TAA bs
Somehow i more like payday 2 weapon for sound is good i don't really like mw weapon sound it sound like metal getting hit with a rock to me Also fennec reload for me is kinda bad like the operator always miss that mag even after a 100 try he still miss damn he really need to watch tutorial "how to reload fennec without missing mag" otherwise good video tigerfield Edit : im not saying fennec reload is bad its still very good detail but i kinda get bored since i always play a game that use perfect reload and slow reload if by chance fast reload is good to
@@SoapOfTheMactavish I wouldn't say PAYDAY 2 is a tactical heist game, the gameplay does feel arcadish. Also it is quite fast paced and sometimes if you don't have fast reload skills it feels like it takes an eternity to reload
You mean realistic?? Like cmon bro if the mag isn’t empty their not gonna throw it away plus mw stayed on the tactical side and how the military actually does it
@@matthewb8276 in Payday 2 appears like 6 or 7 weapons of all of them (Not counting Akimbo) appears the character throw its mag COD is not completely Tactical
@@matthewb8276 I guarantee you MW reloads are not accurate to combat scenarios. Sure you could perform those at a range but even SOF aren’t going to reload like MW
Oh dear god... That Payday 2 Deagle firing animation... Long and snappy at the right spots.
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PAYDAY 2, the game where you can kill a Bulldozer with a comically large spoon
and also the game in which Dallas screams "I NEED A MEDIC BAG" every 10 seconds
And also one of the thousands games which is way more fun and better than MW2019.
"AAAAAAAAA I NEED A MEDIC BAG."
"AAAAAAAAA IM DYING."
"SOMEBODY DROP A MEDIC BAC."
And a game where you can play as a pickle
@@FerrariF1Seb05Fan and with the overused praising old gtas isn't gonna help give cyberpunk a chance as the best open world game than those
@Sunny The spoon I have mentioned is surely one
Payday 2 animations are just pure perfection w/o realism, like loads of it except the compact 5
Whats up with the mp5
the slap felt like dallas messed it by a tad bit on payday 2, otherwise its a fine animation
Compact 5 used to have a better reload, and there's a mod that brings it back. For whatever reason they let someone new re-animate the thing when Niphen left Overkill, and that's the result.
Animations: They're both perfect in their own ways. Payday 2 has smooth animations for its time and MW definitely delivers an excellent feel of adrenaline from the animations. Its a tie.
Sounds: MW19, they're recorded with real gun sounds so its not a surprise that it won. Payday 2 has great sounds though
Models: I can't really decide... Usually i rate these by how believable they look, but since we're comparing games that have a huge time gap... I'm gonna give both a point.
Verdict: MW19, although it did win my attention for the amount of love and effort that it was put Payday 2 IMO was a lot more fun.
Well imo payday has better models, because they're not like, butchered versions of the real thing
I'm not saying that payday has better sounds, MW's are far nicer to hear. WIth that being said, MW's sounds are very editied. Only a couple of the guns actualy sound like that irl. There is pretty much zero difference in sound for 2 guns that fire roughly the same round with roughly the same barrel
I prefer payday 2 sounds as they're more satisfying, all the guns in mw sound the same to me
@@en3myspott3d54 it's the complete opposite lol, payday has a gazillion reused sounds and MW has like 2 reused ones
But who cares
Do we always need a summary?
Bit of an unfair comparison as Payday 2 is a 2013 game running on a Racing game engine made by a smaller dev team while a modern warfare is a 2019 game made on a great smooth engine by a very large company and dev team
2013 actually
2013, mate.
2013, dude
2013, lad
Bruhh this just comparison not the competition
Compared to all other games, Modern Warfare animations looks like a soldier injected himself with a dozen syringes of adrenaline
There’s one thing Payday has however that MW does not
A Golden Comically Large Spoon
I love at 5:43 They miss the magwell before loading the fresh magazine. Such a small but impressive detail.
just knowing that payday is very old and has these animations is epic
Ah yes...payday2, a game where you can penetrate heavy armored with a 9mm round
I see my most favorite gun… the FN Minimi [KSP / Bruen Mk.9]. Because this monster beauty can kill Bulldozers on DW and be viable on DS in Payday 2, whereas in COD MW 2019 to mow down the whole enemy team like it’s Omaha Beach.
Payday 2 came out 9 years ago, it’s crazy
and still look pretty good for a 2013 game
With animations like that, you could've convinced me it was from 2018 or so
Payday 2: Weed
MW2019: Cocaine
Oh my god you are right
16:34 Queen's Wrath Empty reload is my favorite
Any Payday2 gun reloads are 100% more satisfying with speed pull mag that increases reload speed by 100%
It's amusing to me how Payday 2 has more true-to-life models for its guns in most places.
Animation wise, I'm more of a fan of Payday 2. There's no serious camera movement, and at least when Niphen was animating for them, the movements were smooth and stylish. Payday also has more variety in its reload methods, it isn't locked to "tactical as hell" like MW19 is.
Cause in MW, Its a military game. slodiers are highly trained. That's why the reloads are tactical
Well told
Sucks how you like the more "true-to-life" models even though that bank heisters have a seemingly endless supply of WA-2000's.
Sorry, but from driving engine turned FPS engine, MW2019 takes the cake in EVERY category.
@@Ahmed97855 Yet unless they got a perk they can't learn to use the slide 💀
@@Gherkins fanboy spotted
Well it depends on what the game is trying to portray in gameplay mechanics
Payday 2 is a more arcade type shooter of a bunch of people robbing banks so the reload animations are to show the characters you play aren't really trained with using firearms too well.
While COD is focused more on realism and military operations so the animations are more tactical and fast paced than that of the latter game
cod? realisem? i think you confuse cod with arma, or any actuall simulation game.
@@BloodKitten_ yeah I didn't really know how to phrase it... I'm a little dense after all
Bruh cod is literally THE arcade game
CoD as a realistic game? Lol. MW2019 tried to be a lot more realistic, and animation wise, it is, compared to a lot of other CoDs. That being said, tac reloads are way too fast lol. Its an arcade game afterall
I find it pretty funny how Payday 2 has the more accurate SCAR-17 model
Payday reloads seem so gentle and slow for a game where you play as a 40 yo man wearing a clown mask robbing a small town bank with a minigun
Payday 2 animation feels smooth and gentle (for a game about robbing a bank with a clown mask)
Modern Warfare animation is aggressive but fast and tactical.
Most of Payday 2 robbers aren't trained soldiers so it makes scenes that they reload much slower and the gun feels much heavier.
And Modern warfare... I mean they know what they're doing they are well trained soldiers who have many experience in shooting.
I like Payday 2 more cuz it's feel more gentle to the gun, and I don't want to damaged any guns.
(I know, the revolver reload is wrong)
"the gun feels much heavier"
youre underestimating the power of a man (or woman) who can carry a nuke on their back while conceal carrying a minigun and a giant 24k spoon with an RPG and full head to toe body armor
@@mimi-uyn holy shit... You're right
People in 2019: MW has some of the best animations
People in 2022: nO yOu cAnT sAy mW hAs bEtTeR aNiMaTiOnS tHaN pAyDaY
Infinity Ward: haha, speed go brrrr
Payday 2 - many interesting guns
MW2019 - ASMR reload animations
Final result: pure parity
imagine Payday 2 with MW2019 gun sounds
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Good day Tigerfield community, its good to see you all!
So who thought it's a great idea MW AA12 should reload like a MP5 but in the 90's
Nobody is talking about the fact that both payday 2 and MW 2019 has the player cocking the RPG (althought is hard to see in MW 2019 because the character reload too fast)
Also the fact that the KOBUS 90 (P90) and COMMANDO 553 (only Payday 2) have transparent magazines and can be seen emptying
I know the comparisons are over but you should've been using the 5.45 magazines for the mw19 aks-74u comparisons
MW19 and Payday 2 age like wine
Is no one gonna talk about how the fire selector in CoD is actually being switched in the animation.
Payday 2, where you can rush everything with akimbo P90 to make sure mfs are dead
both are good despite i never play both at all
Payday 2 animations just feel better tbh
I'll admit gun play wise payday still holds up on its own to a degree
Love payday 2 game was fun as hell
*is
to be fair overkill and starbreeze is small compared to activision and infinite warfare its like a small town VS New York
and the engines uk its not fair
I would much rather live in a small town tho
honestly tho, I think I'll go with payday, now sure, ik MW has really good animations and sound design and shit
but I think the smoothness of payday really feels better than MW to me, a simple and easy way to look at is by comparing the Mossberg reloads, in payday the animation feels more smooth and simple, while MW, you can clearly see the moments where the animation seems to emphasize the moment your character inserts the shell
simply put
payday = arcade style, more smooth animations without accelerated frames on purpose (well, except if you use reloads skills that make you reload in a second) and calm, but still fun gameplay
Modern Warfare = more realistic and adrenaline-like gameplay and animation
to be honest, I think both are wins
MW has realistic animations but its gameplay is way more arcade-ish than Payday
@@seanshandle indeed
But, if im being honest, I've seen so many games and mods using MW animation's that rn, im feeling sick of seeing it
They aren't bad, but just boring to see it in every single mod and game
Pay day 2 character low key a power ranger with them arm movement sounds
We are waiting for a comparison of Call of duty black ops cold war and payday2
That one would actually be cool
BOCW has the same movement as MW2019
@@MadChristoph like animation or player movement
@@3SZ both
@@MadChristoph ehh the animation is worse in CW, idk about movement since I never played
It ain’t even close tbh, mw smokes payday 2 argue with a wall. The deagle is kinda a sexy in payday 2, but the animations in mw just look much better, it looks like there is actual weight.
"actual weight lol" then why is he shaking them and handles them like they're toy guns? they have zero weight.
@@shrekrab are you actually telling me MW reloads don’t look like they have weight to them, instead of crying, just appreciate the fact that they are one of the best weapon animations we have ever seen, if not the best.
@@mukzz3381 you speak like trump
@@shrekrab is that even a bad thing 😂😂bro he became president of the US
@@shrekrab you just sound like a hating bitch. Pretty much everyone agrees mw2019 has the best weapon animations of all time I’m not the only one.
This isn't a fair comparison and you bloody well know this.
Note: payday 2 came out in 2013
Pls bro make grenade also ❤️ your video from 🇧🇩
I'm with MW19
Ah yes, CoD. Because every action you make using your hands, causes your head to recoil back as if someone slapped you.
Modern Warfare 🔥
Payday is more fun
@@derigreimpavidofbylyx196 fr, I could care less about mw2019 lol
Payday 3 leaked
MW2019's animation speed seems to be at 180fps
why r u even comparing when its impossible to beat mw in terms of animation,sound and weapon design.ok my bad mw 2 surpassed it lol.
ots-38 pistol in games pilsss
OVERKILL developers cannot be bothered to find better reload animations for handguns, such as Glocks, Colts, Berettas, etc. Personally, I think they are motion capturing their movements, like they are in a movie or something.
As for the MW 2019 with the Heckler & Koch MP5, it uses the same full reload animation on both half and full clip. Another thing that bothers me for MW, is there's too much head shake/sway when reloading. Gets me a bit dizzy.
The animations in PAYDAY 2 are made by Niphen Niphen (most of them anyway) and well they aren't mocapped.
They are NOT motion captured lol.
And that's your opinion. Yes, newer animations are being degraded but that's because they're prioritising payday 3 instead of bothering about it (they should've ended payday 2 support tbh). Payday 2 has the best balance between being fast and being slow.
I would also like to see you do better than payday, go ahead.
I agree with your points.
Apart from you concern regarding the MP5 animation on MW, correct me if I'm reading this wrong but I don't remember the MW MP5 ever using the same animation for both empty and half reload.
what the mp5 doesnt use the same reload
MW's MP5 doesn't use the same reload on tac and empty. Maybe it's because both reloads charge the weapon that's why you think they do. And if you want to know why, watch Polenar Tactical's vid on the MP5 reloads.
I’m really glad you people in the comments don’t own guns in real life.. 😂😂 wouldn’t know what to do with one if it was thrown at you
hmm yes because everyone that plays shooting games are required to own guns, if you’re going to mine in Minecraft you need 10 years of experience underground guys
@@3SZ with his logic I'm not allowed to play GTA if I don't know how to steal a car
@@en3myspott3d54 wanna play bo3? build all the fictional guns in the game first
@@3SZ wanna play cod zombies? React the lore
wanna play metro exodus, find a nuke and set it off.
250th like broo
Come on now this ain't fair
It's like comparing an A or B game borderline indie to a AAA studio
I kid but man I hope Payday 3 doesn't look and feel like aged shite
as long as they don't go with the farcry tactic of re releasing the same animations and guns for the past 4 fucking instalments
payday 3 is gonna be on unreal engine 5 so do what you want with that info
I though was unreal engine 4, also payday 2 was relase has 40$ game for a studio with less than 100 people while mw with a 60$ or more "editions" with a masive studio with 3k or more.
@@Pablituss i dont think it was specified which version they were using but everyone always tries to move from 4 to 5 so that would likely happen. would benefit for the long run. im just praying to god the game doesnt feel sluggish like every other UE game and doesnt have the terrible ghosting TAA bs
@@mimi-uyn unreal engine 4*
modern warfare wins again
Bay day He didn't get good luck
Love payday 2 but you have to be delusional as hell to think it beats out mw 2019's animations
So everyone who has their own opinion is delusional now?
payday 2 have smoother animations which is why I like it """"""""IN MY OPINION""""""""
Somehow i more like payday 2 weapon for sound is good i don't really like mw weapon sound it sound like metal getting hit with a rock to me
Also fennec reload for me is kinda bad like the operator always miss that mag even after a 100 try he still miss damn he really need to watch tutorial "how to reload fennec without missing mag" otherwise good video tigerfield
Edit : im not saying fennec reload is bad its still very good detail but i kinda get bored since i always play a game that use perfect reload and slow reload if by chance fast reload is good to
Before that im gonna say opinion is opinion you can't change someone opinion
I agree
I respectfully disagree then.
It’s still a very cool detail, imo.
@@mofuhh yeah i know still a very cool detail
Payday 2 car 4:😎
Cod mw 2019 m4a1:🤢
i dont like the MW2019 animation very much, they felt too fast in my opinion
not to discredit the animators talent just that is not really my style
To be fair these are two very different games one is a tactical heist-themed fps and the other is a faster-pace arcade style fps
@@SoapOfTheMactavish I wouldn't say PAYDAY 2 is a tactical heist game, the gameplay does feel arcadish. Also it is quite fast paced and sometimes if you don't have fast reload skills it feels like it takes an eternity to reload
@@Hopy I think these two games are better described as realistic arcade shooter for MW2019 and arcade-centric heist co-op game for PD2.
@@jaderabbit898 'realistic arcade' doesn't really match, more like a sim-arcade but still, MW2019 isn't even one in a million chance. Pure arcade.
too fast until the speed pull magazine + skills
That's how, MW2019 Fanboys will fight Payday 2 Fans for this.
and I will fight because you nothing but fake
I was seeing comments and most of them are cod fanboys starting a debate lmfao
Yeah lol
In terms of reloads and gun movements, Payday 2 for me, that's how I remember COD reloads and gun movements, and now they're just too intense
You mean realistic?? Like cmon bro if the mag isn’t empty their not gonna throw it away plus mw stayed on the tactical side and how the military actually does it
@@matthewb8276 yeah, but I prefer COD 4's reloads, they're 100x better
@@matthewb8276 in Payday 2 appears like 6 or 7 weapons of all of them (Not counting Akimbo) appears the character throw its mag
COD is not completely Tactical
@@matthewb8276 reminder that cod is an arcade shooter
@@matthewb8276 I guarantee you MW reloads are not accurate to combat scenarios. Sure you could perform those at a range but even SOF aren’t going to reload like MW
pd2 anyway better, than bf
Anything is better than BF nowadays lmao. Not to nab at payday 2 here.
Second
Not even in the same playing field. Payday 2 is miles ahead of that CoD crap that stopped being good in 2010
😂😂😂
COD is clearly better here
yeah you cappin my guy
At least the community
@@callanharvey2293 me: heh, this guy won't get me if i do this. **deactivates the caps lock**